WEBVTT - GIVE ME SOME SUGAR, BABY 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.680 I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.000 She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:07.840 my kissing style with. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:10.600 The boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:11.680 He's in a trash bin. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:13.800 He's non recyclable catching her mu. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.239 I love being love. I love love. 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.159 On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.520 sitting down with Beck, the host of Suka with Beck podcast. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.200 Beck is a self proclaimed sugar baby who is here 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.040 in the studio with us today to educate us on 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:29.200 the whole world of sugaring. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.040 We're going to ask her all your juicy questions and 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.839 find out what it's really like to have a sugar daddy. 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.920 Stick around to hear about all the fancy dinners and 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:38.839 Gucci bags. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.360 Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:51.760 things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.680 This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.000 intimate details, advice, and much more. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:03.360 Oh, they haven't got a Gucci bag? 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:04.920 Yes yet, you're working on. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.240 It or working on it? 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.880 It's on the Christmas? Why is sal and Tom for now? 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.680 Still they're good? They're still decent brands. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.720 I can't complain. Welcome to the studio. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.160 Well, no, thank you for coming in. We'd love to 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.960 talk to you about this. We've been talking about it 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:23.480 for a while and said this is something we want 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.280 to touch on in the dating world. Yeah, pleasure to 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:27.880 have you in here. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:32.520 Firstly, congrats on your podcast. You've done a few episodes 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.280 now it looks like it's going really well. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:35.160 Thank you. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.040 Yeah. So it's called Suka with Beck. Suker is a 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:42.560 handscript word for a person's authentic state of happiness, and 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:46.560 that's just what we're all really looking for. So thank you. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:48.840 It's a few episodes. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.000 In now, that's good. That's good. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:54.600 So you are a self proclaimed sugar baby. First of all, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.840 how did you get into this? Because this is like 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.480 such a foreign world to us. So we were like, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.240 we like, we want to just pick your brain and 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:03.760 ask you all the questions. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.080 Yeah, pick away, How did I get into it? Well, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.040 I mean we're going back. So I'm thirty one now, 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.240 would have been around twenty two, twenty three years old. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.760 When I first started. I was sitting at a table 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.760 with two of my single girlfriends and we're just talking 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.600 about like, how the fuck do you actually find somebody 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.160 in this world. And this is sort of about the 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.680 time where online dating was starting to kick off and 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.720 we were just looking at what sort of online platforms 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.400 we can use. And a friend of mine stumbled across 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.800 a website called seeking Arrangements dot Com and she had 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.880 signed up thinking it was just a normal website, and 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.239 she messaged the group chat and was like, oh my god, 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.320 I signed up and I found out it's like a 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:53.119 sugar baby website and how gross you know, et cetera, etc. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.080 And I was just like, hang on a second, what 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:56.880 now this. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:02:59.440 Exists? 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.880 And so I was just going along with what they 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.400 were like, you know, I was like. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.320 Yeah, that's gross. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.720 But then I was at home signing myself up and 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:10.480 that's just sort of where it all begains. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.440 So, oh my god, So tell me about your first experience. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.519 So obviously, like you've got on the website, you might 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:18.400 have a few like. 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:19.440 Is it matches? 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:20.400 Would you call them? 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:21.000 Yeah? 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:23.480 It works pretty much the same as any other online 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:24.400 dating platforms. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.800 Wife left or rightfile. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.160 Yeah, you put a profile up, so men actually have 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.640 to pay I think it's one hundred dollars a month 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:33.840 to be on the profile. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.240 Women don't have to pay. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.440 So you create a profile and then you can like 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.240 different profiles or you can just slide on into the dms. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:44.760 Right, so you. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.320 Both have to like each other. Or do the men 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:48.240 come to the women? 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:49.600 The men come to the women. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.640 I mean, you can as a woman on the platform 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.839 as well, like message them, but to be honest, it's 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.240 not really necessary to. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:03:59.920 Get in undated. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.560 Tell us what your dating profile says. Then on there, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.960 how do you sell yourself to the potential? 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.400 Well, first of all, I don't use my real name, 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.640 so I almost have an alter ego. I suppose you 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.160 could say, yeah, my name would be Bethany Bardell. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:21.479 Yeah, yes, thank you. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.880 I chosen name that kind of sounded a little bit 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.880 similar to mine because if I called myself like Rachel 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.080 or something, then I definitely wasn't going to turn around. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:34.160 Exactly. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.840 Yeah, so it's like, yeah, everyone calls me Beth, which 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:42.119 is close enough to beck right, yeah, thank you. Yeah, 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:46.159 So on my profile it's Beth Barjel. I have, you know, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.880 a picture of just myself, and then you can post 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.479 a few pictures, so they might just be like full 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.640 length shot when in a little bit of a bikini 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.480 you can't put any like nudity photos on there. It's 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.159 very screened that way, and then on my profile it 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.279 just says, you know something like young, fun, bubbly, looking 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:10.120 to have a good time, you know, don't mind exploring 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.279 any fantasies that you might have. And I'm just looking 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:18.720 for somebody who can help fund a lifestyle that I enjoy. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:27.560 But can't afford distress, say, yeah, come save me. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.560 Do the men on there like that then, because I'm 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.360 obviously like the whole dynamic of like a sugar Duddy 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:33.960 and sugary. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:38.239 Bay sugar baby. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:41.840 You haven't been on the side, No. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.400 I haven't. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.560 Well do you think that like it is that the 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.599 men like to support the woman, like that's the whole 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.159 premise of it, and that's sort of like one of 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.080 their many fetishes. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.880 Yeah, so I suppose the difference between just going down 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.000 to your local brothel and going online to a platform 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.480 like this is. You know, the men that come across 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.880 on the site, they do want to have that emotional 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.520 connection with someone, and they will all say in their 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.800 first messages, you know, looking for someone who I can 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:14.920 connect with. They really want that girlfriend experience, someone where 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.200 you can sit and talk with you know, most of 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.360 the dates we go on, We'll start at a really 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.919 nice restaurant and we'll have a really nice stin together, 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.760 we'll have really great conversations, and then we might move 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.000 on to other things later. But they are looking for 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:33.560 that conversation, that experience as a whole collective. So and 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.920 rather than just going down to say to your brothel 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.560 or whatnot. You know, they are in a financially privileged 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:45.520 position and they do want to help someone with goals 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.520 or help someone out financially because they're in a position 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:49.160 to do so. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.840 Quite noble really, So. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.440 All these men, like what's the like, what's the demograph 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.839 of these men? Like what's the average age? Are they 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.480 all wealthy? Like do you have to do they. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.520 Screen them for like their income? 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:07.240 Yeah? They do so. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.920 Yeah, so when you're setting up your profile, you first, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:12.800 when you set it up, you have to put on 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.880 whether or not you're going to be sugar baby or 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.040 sugar daddy. I'm sure that there are milks on there 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.880 as well, but they do need to put their net 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:20.600 worth on there. 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.480 So how did they screen? How do they screen? If 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.560 that's I mean, I don't know, I don't know. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.000 Imagine if there's guys being like, hey, I'm a multimillionaire 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.040 and they've got like ten dollars in their bank account, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:33.760 surely they must screen it. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.280 Well, they're not getting any action for ten. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:41.040 Dollars, So what do these guys look like? 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.160 What's your average clients? 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.680 Kind of like give us like I don't know, illustrates 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:47.880 him to all about. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:48.520 Listen, when you. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.200 Picture like a sugar daddy, you'd picture like this, like 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.560 well matured, you know, silver fox in a suit and like, 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.480 you know, I really like good looking, but I've got. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.000 To ship together. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:01.800 But I would assume there'd be other ones out there 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:03.800 as well. Yeah, I have to come across. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:04.160 Yeah. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:09.200 I definitely went into this world thinking that it was 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.160 going to be like that. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.160 Yeah, I was a little bit naive. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:16.880 And that's what you imagine, right, you imagine pretty women, yeah, 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:18.080 like George Clooney. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.880 And then the reality of it is. 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.040 That most of the men who are on there probably 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.560 like fifty five plus. I mean the oldest guy that 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:35.160 I've seen was probably well, he was probably like early seventies, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.320 So we're in that sort of age demographic. There are 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.120 younger guys on there, though definitely, I mean, were there 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.080 are guys in their thirties as well that are just 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.280 high profile people or high profile clients. They have multi 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:54.160 billion dollar companies. They want privacy, they don't want it 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.880 to be publicized, and they don't want any clinging sort 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.600 of women that are going to hate around, and they 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.680 don't want anyone that's looking for a relationship because they 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.800 don't have time. So you definitely do have those clients also, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.760 but that's probably not the most common demographic. It normally 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.840 is just older men who are in a wealthy position 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:18.160 who probably can't get a young, pretty woman. Yeah, I 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:19.000 love that for me. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.600 So have you always enjoyed dating older men? Is that 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.640 something that you've liked or it's something that you've kind of, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.520 would you say, accepted or kind of like adapted to. Yeah. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.840 I think it was definitely something that I adapted to 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.520 over time. It was not something that I thought that 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.320 I would enjoy. But then when I you know, I 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.199 was just in a position in my life where when 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.160 I first started, i'd gotten out of a relationship with 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:52.800 a guy that was very, very sexually experienced in lots 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.960 of different ways and I hadn't been and I was like, right, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:56.400 that's it. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.480 I just almost he wasn't he. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.600 Was my age, a couple of years older, but you know, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.640 he'd had threesomes and this and. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:09.160 That, and I, you know, I was quite new, I suppose, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:09.680 you could say. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.079 And I was like, right, I just went on a 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.559 mission where I was say, I don't ever want to 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:14.560 be in a position again in a relationship where I 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:18.560 feel like I've missed out. And then I fell into this, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.480 and then I just kind of fell in love. I 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.400 suppose I really grew to enjoy dating ULTI men because 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:32.360 they know a lot, right. They're all really wealthy people 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:37.240 because they've created businesses or they've worked their way up 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.920 in a business. They're creative, and they're intellectual, and they 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.920 have a lot of life experience. And as someone a 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.719 young girl in her twenties, you don't know a lot 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:47.520 of those things. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.480 So I really. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.959 Began to enjoy being a sugar baby because I was 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.120 going on these days. But I was also learning a 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:59.360 lot about life. I was learning a lot about business, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.559 how to talk to people, how to engage with people, 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.760 and how to just live life in a way that 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.120 was smart, I suppose, because they've made all of their 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.319 mistakes and they've all got lessons that they can teach you, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.880 so you always walk away with learning something and I 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.240 think that that's really valuable. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.920 So that's so interesting to me. Jeez, I to give 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:23.440 us some of the. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:29.720 Lessons, that's still twenty seven lessons to learn. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:31.920 Can I learn them the hard way? 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.920 So when you've set up your profile, you've got it 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.000 set up, then they message you. Is there like talk 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.240 of what the transaction will be and how much and 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.360 what prices are for? What does that come in there 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.200 or is it down the track? 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:50.840 No, it definitely happens online, So you want to establish 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.360 what like, you just want to establish and make sure 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.200 that you guys are both on the same page so 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.360 that no one's wasting their time. It's very much the 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:01.600 same if you were on bumble, you know, what are 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.079 you looking for? What would you like? What sort of 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.120 date should we go on? That sort of thing. So 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.760 it's definitely the same because like, no one wants to 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.120 waste their time, right, I'm not getting ready for a date. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.880 I mean you understand you're a female, you know, and 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.240 it's like getting ready for a date. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.920 It takes time, God damn it, So don't. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.000 Yeah, so you definitely come to that understanding of how 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.280 much it's going to cause how long the date will take, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:29.240 what the expectations are, because perhaps they're looking for a 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:34.120 particular sexual experience that I don't feel comfortable in providing. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.200 And that's so fine. I just say, that's not really 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:36.720 my jam. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.679 But you know, really good luck on licking toes if 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.079 that's your fetish. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:43.400 It's not really my thing. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.160 Well let's take it back to the start. When you 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.240 went on your very first date. Tell us a bit 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.240 about that. How was that for you as your first 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.200 experience obviously going into this unknown now? 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.760 Was that it was with the tell us a bit. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:03.240 About Yeah, I mean I was definitely shitting myself for sure. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.640 I think actually for my very first date, I got 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.480 really lucky because it was a younger guy in his 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:25.480 thirties and he was like a DJ photographer and he 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.439 was in Melbourne with some virtual reality glasses thing. I mean, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.120 I can't even remember exactly what it was, but he 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.120 was doing some tour or some event and yeah, so 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.680 we met at a bar and we had some drinks 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.600 there and then we went out to dinner at Nobu 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:52.679 and yeah, and we and I mean I was really nervous, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.320 but he was a really nice guy. And we had 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.160 a really great time, and then we went back to 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.480 the hotel that he was staying out and had some 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:00.679 sexy time. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.719 And that was that is the money I paid beforehand? 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.600 Or is it? How has it exchanged? 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.960 Yeah? That would come beforehand. Yeah. 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:14.320 So the only time that I probably wouldn't like, wouldn't 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.559 worry about getting the payment beforehand is if I've established 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.800 an ongoing arrangement with somebody. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.520 Yeah, isn't it awkward to ask for money beforehand? 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.200 Like how do you initiate that? 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.640 I don't know, just personally seeking I'm thinking of myself 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:29.600 in that position. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.080 Oh yeah, it's awkward as fuck. Yeah, I'm exactly the same. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.520 I hate confrontation, and I mean, how do you say 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.120 to somebody, Okay, yeah, it's time for you to give 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.240 me five hundred dollars. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.840 Like kissing him. It's all taking off, and then. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.880 It's like a bit of a buzzkill. Yeah. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.520 I mean the best way to do it is, you know, 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.960 when you're messaging before you get there, when you're going 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.080 through your expectations and that sort of thing, and it say, 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.600 you know, we're agreeing on an amount, and then I 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.000 just say cash needs to be paid up front, you know, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.160 or it just needs to be poor on the table 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.840 because obviously for them as well, they're like, well, how 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.440 do I know that you're not going to just take 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.000 the money and run sort of things, So, you know, 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.320 it generally just sort of gets port like on the 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.880 table if they feel comfortable enough to give it to you. 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.440 But it's just safer. I mean, I've never been in 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.960 touch wood, never been poort in a situation where they 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:31.320 haven't gone through with the financial side of things. But yeah, generally, upfront. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.880 What's the most you've got for like, I guess like 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.600 a date night with maybe finishing with like a little 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.800 rendezvous at a hotel. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.880 Just like with a single day, probably about one thousand dollars. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:48.280 And paid for Yeah, I like that. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.360 A couple of bucks. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.160 So yeah, I mean sometimes yeah, I think I've been 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.920 to rock Pool once and the bill for dinner came 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.320 to nine hundred and fifty dollars. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:15:59.640 Yeah. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.280 Wow, so it's like two grand. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.720 So it's like you're getting paid in a hotel fee 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:05.280 on top of that. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:09.320 Yeah, So yeah, you're getting paid in like cash money, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.520 but then also like experiences and getting to like live this. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:17.600 Bougie lifestyle and That's why I love it, right, and 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:22.760 that's what gets addictive because I'm a beauty therapist by trade. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.520 You know, average wage is like what fifty sixty K 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:25.960 a year. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.760 The average wage for an Australian is ninety thousand dollars 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:35.000 kill me. And I got into that because I love 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.200 making people feel good, and I like making people happy, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.600 and I like making people feel confident. But why does 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.440 that need to come at a cost to the life 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.400 that I want to live in the experiences that I 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.400 want to have Because I chose an industry that is 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.880 based on passion, not making bank, you know, so that 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.120 was a really good balance for me that I can 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.360 have these lifestyle polks that I enjoyed, but then also 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.520 continue to work in an industry that I love. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.560 So so have you kind of swapped out like dating 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.720 people who I guess you might meet in like regular 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.159 life and might ask you on a date for just sugaring. Now, Like, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.560 is that solely how you date? 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:17.640 No? 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.040 I mean, if an opportunity presents itself in the wild, 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.440 then I'll, you know, definitely give that go. But it's 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:34.600 definitely made dating hard because it's probably put the expectation 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.560 up a little bit and I mean I was sort 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.800 of doing a little bit of both, but I just 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.440 got to a point where you know, you're online, swiping 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.960 away on Fumble or Tinder and like, okay, Bob when 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.560 it come Netflix and chill, like you're so hot, and 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.000 you get there and you're just not sexually satisfied anyway, 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.400 and you're like, well, fuck, I could have got paid 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:58.359 for this, but dating, let's get pack. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.600 We said, at least you're getting paid for all the 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.080 terrible if it is a terrible yeah, exactly. 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.720 Yeah, we leave with nothing but the terrible experience in 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:08.280 the cash. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:12.960 Yes, yea. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.480 And I mean, I guess the other thing is when 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.320 you're going on a date with a guy that's older, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:29.040 who perhaps wouldn't be able to otherwise in a normal situation, 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:34.280 get somebody like myself or like a younger girl, the 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.320 attitude that they have towards. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.400 You spending time with them is amazing. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:45.280 I feel so powerful, I feel so beautiful appreciative as well. Yeah, 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.800 like they'll look at me like my launch and like wow, 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.320 you're so gorgeous, and they're just like worshiping how wonderful 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.800 you are. Whereas you're not going to get that same 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:58.960 appreciation from some guy of Tinder. So it's definitely put 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.240 a little bit of in into normal dating life for sure. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.480 What about in the future going forward, say you find 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.880 someone outside of sugaring, someone that you think is your 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:13.199 life partner, would you tell them about your sugaring and 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.840 like all that sort of stuff. Great question because obviously, 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.200 like we, like we said before we went on and 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:19.920 I said, I'll touch on this, I find the topic 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.000 very taboo, and like when I was asking you questions 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.159 before we got you on, I felt that you want 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.280 to make you feel uncomfortable about it, or we're going 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:28.000 over what we're. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.240 Going to chat about. And I was like, look, I 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:29.760 don't want. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.080 To make you feel uncomfortable, so you didn't want to 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:33.560 feel like you were priving I. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.440 Was crying as well a line yeah, because obviously I 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.240 hadn't met you and we speaking over Instagram and I 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.240 was asking questions like, hey, can we talk about this? 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:41.040 Is this allowed? 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:44.040 Like yeah, we want to try to say that may 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.040 but would you think you tell a guy because some 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.200 guys maybe might not understand it might be a bit 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.280 not judgmental, but a bit like oh okay, you know 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:52.600 what I mean? 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:54.320 Like the old school fashion way of thinking. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:20:00.640 Yeah, of course, great question. So I've probably I've had. 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:06.000 Two boyfriends since I've started this. First one I didn't tell. 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:07.400 While you were doing it. 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:09.480