1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: From the newsroom a news still. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 2: Come to me. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 3: Hello there, I'm Andrew Bucklow. Well. Tomorrow night, millions of 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 3: Ossies will tune in for Game three of the NRL 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: State of Origin, a rivalry so fierce that it's basically 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 3: a religion in Queensland and New South Wales. Now each 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: year that series attracts so much attention that AFL fans 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: often think, hey, maybe Ozzie Rules should bring back its 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: own State of Origin. Once a proud tradition packed with passion, 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: punch ons and superstar clashes, AFL Origin faded into history 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 3: over two decades ago, but in recent months there's been 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: a growing number of players, fans and commentators calling for 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: its return. In this episode, we're asking is it time? 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 3: Could State of Origin work in the modern AFL, and 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: if so, what would it look like? 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: It's about sense safful night here in South Australia, but 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: the big State of Origin class when here comes the 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 4: Big v the South Australian side already let out on 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: to the ground by Craig Bradley and Johnny. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: Playing Well, I'm joining the studio now by Matt Sullivan 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: from news dot com dot I use the sports team 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: game Maddie Hey Bucky. As we just heard, state of 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: origin used to exist in Aussie Rules. How long did 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: that run for? 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it did. It started back in nineteen seventy seven. 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: There were two games a year between WA and Victoria 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 1: and then that continued here on year with other teams 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: and states joined the competition like South Australia, Queensland and 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: the Allies as they were known, which was the mixture 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: of players from all different states, right, and then the 31 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: biggest games were probably WA and then also South Australia 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: and Victoria were kind of drew the biggest rivalries and 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: crowds and attention. The game in nineteen ninety four between 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: Victoria and South Australia was awesome, seen as one of 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: the best Aussie Rules games ever played. The Victorian Ford 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Line had players like Tony Lockert, Jason Dunstall and Dermot Breton. 37 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,279 Speaker 1: Garrett Ablett seen also played some awesome State of Origin 38 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: games and Tony Modro at the Crow's Star he was 39 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: awesome for South Australia. So it's really nostalgic if you 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: look back at the highlights and all these decades later. 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: And yeah, it was so good back in the day. 42 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: The last game was played what in ninety. 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Yes, between Victoria and South Australia. That was the last 44 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: time it was played and twenty six thousand fans tended up. 45 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: But we haven't seen it since. 46 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: The start of the State of Origin match at the 47 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 5: MCG on a wet May day. Maybe the last time 48 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 5: these two teams play one another, certainly the last time 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 5: they'll play in this century. 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: Victoria actually ended up smashing South Australia. They won by 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: about ten goals. So Matt, that was the last time 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: we saw State of Origin back in nineteen ninety nine. 54 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 3: Why did they stop playing State of Origin in AFL. 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: The I guess when the VFL became the AFL in 56 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: the nineties, teams like West Coast, Port Adelaide, Cydney Swans 57 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: joining the competition. The AFL became a national competition with 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: for one fully integrated league and every club was now 59 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: represented by its own city yeah region. 60 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: So basically rather than having to put together a WA 61 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: team like they had the West Coast Eagles, so they 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: didn't need to play. 63 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: And I guess the interests kind of slowly phased out 64 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: over the years as the AFL became more tribal in 65 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: terms of Victorian fans would just go for their club 66 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: more than the States per se. 67 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, any other reasons why they canned it. 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, crowds kind of dwindled over the years in the 69 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: in the nineties and there was just slowly declining interests 70 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: over those years. And then you've got the obvious factors 71 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: like injury risks and teams becoming more and more professional 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: and conscious of the playing a game mid season and 73 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: if your star player does an injury and all the 74 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: kind of risks of that. 75 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: I didn't really think about that because I guess if 76 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: one team's got like four or five players in the 77 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: State of Origin and they get injured, then they're in 78 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: the middle of the season, that screws up their premiership 79 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: changes later on the year. 80 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I think there would be riots. If Nick Decost did 81 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: a knee injury this year. This year, Collingwood fans would 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: not be happy. 83 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: Well, here we are more than twenty five years later 84 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: and there's talk that State of Origin could actually make 85 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: a comeback. Collingwood captain Darcy Moore, who's also the AFL 86 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: Players Association President, dropped a bit of a bombshell on 87 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: the weekend. He was chatting to scn all. 88 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 6: The prospects of the state of origins come up a 89 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 6: little bit this week as well, So yeah, there was 90 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 6: a number of number of things that come up. 91 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: Give us alloid on that last one that's we've raised 92 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: a few eyebrows here. 93 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 5: Do you detect a genuine willingness on behalf of the 94 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: playing group to reinvent start of Origin footy? 95 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 6: I think there's certainly an openness to the concepts, Like 96 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 6: I don't think players largely aren't going to stand in 97 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 6: the way of it. Where it fits in with scheduling, 98 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 6: what it sort of offers to the fans, broadcasters, all 99 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 6: the commercials. That sort of stuff has to definitely be 100 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 6: worked through. Where does it fit as part of a 101 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: broader fixturing chat as well is probably part of it. 102 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 6: And then what's kind of the medium long term goal 103 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 6: of it, So like we don't want to do it, 104 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 6: commit to it, and then it be a mickey mouse 105 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 6: sort of event that happens once in a while. It's 106 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 6: sort of like we're. 107 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: Going to do it. 108 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 6: I think there's consensus that we want it to be 109 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: a sort of sustainable thing and something that makes sense 110 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 6: in the calendar and Ultimately that serves as fans, so 111 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 6: there's a bit to work through with it. I know 112 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 6: the CEO's chatted about it this week, so yeah, we'll 113 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 6: see watch this space on that one. I think I 114 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 6: think there's some there's still some charts to be hard. 115 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: Fascinating comments there from Darcy. So, Matt, do we have 116 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: any details about the potential return of origin. 117 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: Yes, it's been mentioned a couple of times this year. 118 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: AFL CEO Andrew Dillon seems quite keen and positive about 119 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: the idea, and we think it's going to come back 120 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: in the next year or two. 121 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: Okay. 122 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: The West Australian Government and the AFL are in ongoing 123 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: talks about holding a game in Perth next year. The 124 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: latest we've heard is it will be in pre season 125 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: in February at Opter Stadium, which could be pretty hot 126 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: and not ideal to be honest for the players. At 127 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: this stage. The game would be between Western Australia and Victoria, 128 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: although there are a lot of people like yourself that 129 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: would like to see that South Australia. 130 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: Play the vix definitely. 131 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: The rumors are that Carlton's Patty Cripps would most likely 132 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: captain w A and the Victorian captain could be any 133 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: of Maxicorn, Paddy Dangerfield and Marcus Bonderpelli And at this 134 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: stage it sounds like it would just be the one 135 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: game per year. 136 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 3: To me, state of origin is Victoria versus South Australia. 137 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: They're the two big footy towns. I reckon. I don't 138 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: really care about way, so I'm not that excited about 139 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: this proposal. But is the AFL on board with it? 140 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: You mentioned that Andrew Dillon was kind of keen. He's 141 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: the CEO of the AFL. 142 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: I think they are. I mean, the NFL has had 143 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: a lot of good ideas that the AFL of copied 144 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: over the years, like gather around a magic ground. More 145 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: recently and now they've turned their attention to state of origin. 146 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Andrew Dillon has been saying for a while now that 147 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: he wants to bring back representative footy. So yeah, I 148 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: think it will happen one way or another. I think 149 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: it will probably be a glorified exhibition game unfortunately, especially 150 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: if it's played in the preseason and with the heat. 151 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't envy those players and I think there's a 152 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: lot to be hashed out just from the players Association 153 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: point of view and when the game is held and 154 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: all these things like that. But earlier this year they 155 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: had success with Fremantle playing the Indigenous All Stars in 156 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: Perth and that went well and the players that played 157 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: there really brought into it. And from all reports, the 158 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: AFL is on board with the concept and they're in 159 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: talks with the WA government and they're kind of hashing 160 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: out how much the government will contribute financially. But yeah, 161 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: there's a few hurdles to overcome. 162 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 3: All right, Well, it does sound promising, but as he mentioned, 163 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: you heard alls to overcome before Origin can make a comeback. 164 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: So we'll discuss this more in just a moment. Welcome back. 165 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: We are talking about the AFL potentially bring back State 166 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: of Origin. One man who'd loved to see it return 167 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: is Gary Lyon, who represented Victoria during his playing career. 168 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: Here's what he said last month. 169 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: When you played State footy, you just walked in I did. 170 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: I walked in the room and just sat and watched 171 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: and was just taken to a whole other place because 172 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: all the greats that we played against week after week, 173 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: and you're only naturally you'd sit there and go shit. 174 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: I wish I could play with him, and I wish 175 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: I could play with him. And then State Footy come 176 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: around and you did, and I loved every single minute 177 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: of it. I wish it had come back, and I 178 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: think the modern day players missing out on that opportunity 179 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: to sit down and go. I was a Victorian player, 180 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: South Australian player at West Australia, whatever the case may be, 181 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: and I loved every single second of it. 182 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: That audio and Fox Footy. Maddie, what about you personally? 183 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: Would you like to see State of Origin return? 184 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of indifferent about it. I'd rather 185 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure, I mean, go for it. I'd rather than 186 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: have a set of origin than playing games overseas like 187 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: we've seen the AFL do before, which hasn't really worked 188 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: as they've tried to grow the game. They also did 189 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: the International Rule series with Island's Gaelic footballers, which is 190 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: a cool concept in the two thousands when he had 191 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: lanky Dustin Fletcher flying around in goalie, but that concept 192 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: kind of fizzled out as interest dwindled. I mean, it 193 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: would be great for the AFL from a financial point 194 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: of view, obviously from crowds and TV, and if I 195 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: think if they do Victoria against the rest of Australia, 196 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: it would be a fantastic way to show that the 197 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: AFL is really a truly national competition. Like you've got 198 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: Isaac Haney from the Swans who grew up in Newcastle 199 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: in New South Wales, Patty Cripps from w a at 200 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: Lake Crowe's Skipper, Jordan Dawson's from South Australia, Stephen May 201 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: it's from the Northern Territory. Like if all those guys 202 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: played in the one team, I think it would be 203 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: a great showcase for the AFL. But we'll see how 204 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: that plays out. 205 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: So you'd like to see Victoria versus the rest of 206 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: Australia rather than Victoria versus a WA. 207 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: I think it would be the best way for the 208 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: AFL to get all the best players involved. Otherwise you're 209 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: just going to frustrate too many fan bases. If you 210 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: just choose one state like I say, or Wa, obviously 211 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: you're not going to keep everyone happy. But I think 212 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: that would be good. But I think the main issue 213 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: is when it is played, because preseason footy fans aren't 214 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: super interested, they're still in summer mode. But if they 215 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: hold it in the middle of the year on a 216 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: standalone weekend, that would be awesome, but the AFL has 217 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of fixturing issues to hash out, Like 218 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: this year we've had five mid season by rounds on 219 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: top of the bars at the start of the season, 220 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: and the opening round, which is this thing they started 221 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: last year which is kind of a soft launch to 222 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: the season in Sydney and Queensland as they try to 223 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: grow the game, and then it fully kicks off the 224 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: following weekend in Melbourne. So at the moment they're struggling 225 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: with losing momentum throughout the season with these buys, and 226 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: they've at the moment they've scheduled Essendon, which are who 227 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: are playing a bunch of rookies in a heap of 228 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: primetime games to finish up the season. So there's a 229 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: lot of that the AFL need to get right. And 230 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it should be played in preseason. Should 231 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: be played in the middle of the year when the players 232 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: are in good form and footy fans are up and 233 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: about and got in the headspace. 234 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 3: But I guess then the problem becomes what we mentioned 235 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: what happened last time State of Ogrein was around was 236 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: that the best players are probably not going to want 237 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: to take part during the season because they could get 238 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: injured and stuff up their clubs chances of winning a 239 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 3: premiership later on the year. So we've really got to 240 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: get the players support behind this as well. 241 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I think it will get ticked off eventually, 242 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: but I think what will end up happening is it'll 243 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: be that one off game in preseason and then the 244 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: AFL will get what they want. It will be State 245 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: of Origin game. But even if someone gets injured, you're like, oh, 246 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: you've got twenty weeks twenty five weeks before finals if 247 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: to recover. It kind of got that security. So I 248 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: think that's what will end up happening, but I'm not 249 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: sure that's what fans want to see. 250 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with that. Before the break, we spoke 251 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: about the proposal for Origin to return next season, with 252 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: a game between WA and Victoria likely to be played 253 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 3: in February in Perth. Darcy moul was asked about the 254 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: life glihood of this during his chat with sen Let's 255 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: just have a listen. 256 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: Is it far fetched to think it could be in 257 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: for twenty six or is it further down the line 258 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: than that. 259 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 6: I think it's a possibility. It's a possibility, but it 260 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 6: feels like a lot of work to do between now 261 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 6: and then, so we'll see. We'll see. 262 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, a lot of things to work out, Matte. 263 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: If you have to say yes or no right now? 264 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: Do you think that game will be played in Perth 265 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: in February between Victoria and wa next year? 266 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: Ah? Yes, my heart says yes, My head says probably 267 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. 268 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: But we'll see, we will wait and see, all right, 269 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: Matt Sullivan, thank you very much, Thanks Becky, and thank 270 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: you so much for listening to it today's episode. Enjoy 271 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: Origin tomorrow night and I'll chat to you tomorrow morning. 272 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 6: Follow or subscribe to from the Newsroom wherever you get 273 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,119 Speaker 6: your podcasts.