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Speaker 1: into it. As always, this episode of Pit Talk is

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Shannon's Insurance.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rinita.

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Speaker 1: Vanmullen and joining me as always Matt Clayton. Mat no

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Speaker 1: silly intros at this time, because we are straight into

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Speaker 3: And this is after me saying a few weeks ago

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Speaker 3: was actually happening, because I feel like I've started this

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Speaker 4: But is it funny?

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Speaker 3: Like we have a Grand Prix weekend where we set

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Speaker 3: where do you want to start? Because there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: That's probably the biggest talking point as of right now

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing rumors.

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Speaker 3: This is super intriguing because it's been like this great

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Speaker 1: are in that part of the world, which was crazy,

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Speaker 1: but we obviously know that. Yeah, Mark was just in

438
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Speaker 1: his own post cred as you said. One thing we

439
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,679
Speaker 1: spoke about though in the pre preview pod was you

440
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,199
Speaker 1: said that you started to see this is where the

441
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 1: twenty five GP would start to expand in the GP

442
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Speaker 1: twenty four.

443
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Speaker 2: Ward State workers.

444
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Speaker 1: We didn't really see that this weekend, though, did we,

445
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Speaker 1: Because we saw Morbidelli and Aldiger and all these guys

446
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 1: were battling and they were up the front. It's just

447
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,360
Speaker 1: the fact that it was Mark Marquez being Mark Marquez.

448
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, complete race for second place really, So, I mean

449
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 3: it's one of those tracks that it's a decading track

450
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Speaker 3: at the best of times, and then it's like it's

451
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Speaker 3: Marquees in like category one and then everyone else sort

452
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Speaker 3: of behind that. I mean, Franko Morberdelli really good qualifying

453
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Speaker 3: for It's the best qualifying he's had for a long time.

454
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 3: Faded a bit in the Grand Prix, but the twenty

455
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 3: fives weren't quite as strong here as maybe I suspected

456
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 3: they might be. But we talked about this a little

457
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 3: bit offline before we started. I reckon that that podium

458
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 3: for Pekabanyai on Sunday might be a super interesting result

459
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 3: to monitor from here, because he did something super different

460
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 3: with that bike on Sunday. Saturday was an absolute disasters

461
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 3: twelfth in the sprint, and the other five decaddies were

462
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Speaker 3: all the top six, so he was in this category

463
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Speaker 3: of absolutely nowhere, and it's just an extension of how

464
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 3: his season has gone. It feels to me like they

465
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 3: might have unlocked something for him on Sunday, which was

466
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: a really really random thing that we can get into

467
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 3: which might be the world's longest podcast, but I'll try

468
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 3: and keep it short. But it feels that Banyai had

469
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Speaker 3: a result on Sunday that was worth more than just

470
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Speaker 3: your average third place finish because you saw him after

471
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Speaker 3: the race. He doesn't usually get that fired up about

472
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Speaker 3: finishing third. I mean, he's won thirty Grand Breeze. The

473
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 3: way he runs. He was super excited to finish third

474
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Speaker 3: because I think he reckons he found something, don't you think?

475
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Speaker 2: I think so.

476
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Speaker 1: Match And you know you spoke recently on Fox sports

477
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Speaker 1: dot comdo for Slash Motorsport where you said that there's

478
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Speaker 1: some internals, there's some changes that have happened in Peko's bike,

479
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: and there's been some talks. We've heard Ta Doozzi saying

480
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: to Jack Appleyard and these guys, you know that they

481
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: found something, They found something with Peco whatnot. I heard

482
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: some little whispers about potentially it was like the rear

483
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 1: right height device the weight had shifted, so he was

484
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: struggling and that's why we're seeing so many front end crashes.

485
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Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you know, because you're looking at

486
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: me like you've got some inside got here?

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit.

488
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 3: So I wrote a couple of weeks ago about this.

489
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Speaker 3: Two things about the twenty five that are different to

490
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 3: the twenty four Ducatti without getting super granular here, it's

491
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 3: the engine internals are different, and the weight distribution of

492
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Speaker 3: where they are and the bike.

493
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Speaker 4: Is different, and the rear ride.

494
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: Height device is much more towards the front of the bike,

495
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: but it's also lighter. So Banniol's biggest problem all year

496
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 3: is he uses the word feeling all the time. I

497
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: don't have the feeling, have the feeling, and he doesn't

498
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: have the confidence on the front end of the bike

499
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 3: in corners. You often see him run wide or he's

500
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: not as good in breaking because he's an awesome late

501
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: breaker as we've seen over the past couple of years.

502
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't have the confidence in that, and turns out

503
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: that on race day at Aragon it was a bit

504
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 3: of a hail mary I reckon. They through the biggest

505
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: break discs you can possibly use in motor GP. That

506
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: through fifty five millimeter break discs into the front of

507
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: Banyai's bike. Normally you're running three forties, so he's gone

508
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: the heaviest possible break disc These are the brakes that

509
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: you use at something like Motegi, which is all like

510
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: long straights in the ninety degree corners, long straights in

511
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: the ninety degree corners. What that's done and a hatsip

512
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: here to Simon Patterson from the race of digging this

513
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 3: out from Brembo. The bigger caliber break discs are about

514
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 3: four hundred grams heavier than the ones that are lighter.

515
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: Four hundred grams doesn't sound like a lot, nearly half

516
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: a kilo, but all that weight's on the front of

517
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: the bike, and Banyai the whole year has said, I

518
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: don't have feeling at the front. I don't have feeling

519
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: at the front. Yes, you're running a heavier break disc,

520
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: but it's redistributed the weight to the front of the bike,

521
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: which is where he's wadded it the entire year. And

522
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 3: so you go in twenty four hours. He was hopeless

523
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 3: in the sprint, to the point that he's back dealing

524
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: with Jack Miller after Jack and had his run in

525
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: with Juan Mier. And it was interesting because Jack after

526
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: the sprint spent the entire sprint sitting right behind Banyai,

527
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 3: which is you would not expected to catty at a

528
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: Yamaha at Aragon to be in the same piece of

529
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: real estate. And Jack was like, I don't recognize the

530
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: way Peco's riding, Like he's riding in a completely different way.

531
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: His body's not hanging off the side of the bike

532
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: like it normally does. And Jack's like, I know Peco

533
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 3: better than anybody on the grid.

534
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: Because they were.

535
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: Teammates for four years and Jack knows exactly how Peko rides,

536
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: and he's looking at him thinking, I don't recognize this.

537
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: I've not seen this before, and this is Peco trying

538
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: not to lose the front on every single court and

539
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: that's why he was so dog slow. I think he's

540
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 3: fourteen seconds behind Mark Mecmarquez in eleven laps.

541
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Speaker 4: That's dreadful.

542
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: Fast forward twenty four hours he finished two seconds behind

543
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: his teammate and on the podium twenty four hours later

544
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: after they'd run the bigger break discs. And I'm going

545
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 3: into a long piece on this for Fox Sports dot

546
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: com dot Au that's going to run on Thursday, Australian time.

547
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: But you do have to wonder whether they found something here.

548
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: And you know we always say motorsport, right, there's no

549
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: magic bullets with this thing, like, there's not just you click,

550
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: can't click your figures and everything gets better. But maybe

551
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: they have clicked their figures and they've found something here.

552
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: It's a pretty random left field solution. But the thing

553
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 3: for me, and we talk about this offline before what

554
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: are the next two races? Migello Asen, who's one at

555
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: Magello the last three years Peco Van who's one at

556
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 3: Assen the last three is Peko Vanyaya. And you remember

557
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: particularly Asen, there's some of those weekends it's a bit

558
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: like Marquez Aragon.

559
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 4: It's like west Pecker.

560
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 3: Oh he's six seconds in the lead, you just don't

561
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: see him for the entire weekend. So if they've really

562
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: found something on this bike, if he goes out and

563
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: wins at Magello, we know how good he is there.

564
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: If he goes out and beats Mark on a red

565
00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: Ducat at home at Migello this World Championship, he's probably

566
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: too far behind Mark to win the title unless Mark

567
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: helps him by falling off a couple of times, which

568
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 3: Mark can do from time to time. But it's certainly

569
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: going to be interesting because I think there are races

570
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: later in this season where we know there's tracks where

571
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: Peko is just about unbeatable when he's been Peco Vanyaya.

572
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: We haven't seen heaps of that this year so far

573
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: in eight rounds, but it doesn't mean that it's not coming.

574
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: And if he's got this bike balance right, whether that

575
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: transfers across from Aragon, which is not a great circuit

576
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: for him anyway, if he can make it work at Magello,

577
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: if he can make it work at Asen, then doesn't

578
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: that add a wrinkle that we didn't see coming to

579
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: the end of the season because it was pretty much

580
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: one way traffic before ARAGLV, wasn't it.

581
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the Marquez Brothers show. But yeah, I

582
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: think you have Peco Banyai back in. Ultimately, then we'll

583
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: go back to what I said where you mentioned the

584
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: gap between the GP twenty fives and GP twenty four's

585
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: is going to become more realistic. Yep in seeing that

586
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: though we know Diggia is on the GP twenty five

587
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: as well, and just looking at the results from the weekend,

588
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: he was P. Nine, So it's as much the bike

589
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: as it is the rider on the bike.

590
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: And if the rider on the bike is.

591
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: Peco Banyaya and all his eyes are dotted and his

592
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: teas across and he's comfortable, that's when we're going to

593
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: see him that closer to the top. But so, yeah,

594
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: if your podium on Sunday was a Ducad dominated podium,

595
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: we knew that, but looking at P four, Pedro Acosta

596
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: made a surprise appearance, and it seems like every debrief everything.

597
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I heard from Pedro on the weekend, He's still

598
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: just saying I'm not happy. I'm not happy, And I

599
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: feel like that's just Pedro's tagline at the moment. But

600
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean a P four from a KTM where the

601
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: next KTM I'm just looking at the results was Anaya

602
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: Bastianini in twelve. You think that's a big jump. And

603
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: Brad Binda, we know he's this is not his strongest

604
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: circuit either, and he had a DNF. But Petro Costa

605
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: P four that's not too bad for a KTM.

606
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: No, not at all, And it's interesting like Binda was

607
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 3: running quite high in the Grand Prix until crashed. Vignales

608
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 3: ended up crashing and I think he was the last

609
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: classified rider, but I think he said his fastest lap

610
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: with a broken bike or the last lap of the race,

611
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 3: because Averick Vignalez just filed that in the Maverick Vidales

612
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: file like we always do. But interesting with a Costa

613
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: because you remember he was on the podium at Aragon

614
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: last year. Now that owed itself to a little bit

615
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: of Alex Marquez, Peco Vannyaya running over each other in

616
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: the gravel nonsense.

617
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: Later in that race, he.

618
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: Wouldn't have been on the podium otherwise, but it's been

619
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: generally a pretty good track for him through the junior classes.

620
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: And something that's interesting now is we always think of

621
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: the DECADI as being the grid's fastest bike right through

622
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: the speed traps. These days, generally speaking, it's a KTM

623
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: that's the top of the top of the speed traps.

624
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with the straight line speed of a KTM.

625
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: You know, the quartering stuff's a bit of an issue

626
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: from time to time. But what do we have at

627
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 3: aragon A one kilometer back straight and you could just

628
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: see like a Costa was right in the fight with

629
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: Banyaya early in that race, simply because Peko would gap

630
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: him in the first two thirds of the lap and

631
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: then this KTM would unleash it self out of that

632
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: third last quarter and all of a sudden they be

633
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: back on there again. So it's going to be a

634
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: bit circuit specific for a cost I'd be curious to

635
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 3: see how they go at Magello, which is you feel

636
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: the bike's always just turning or doing something at Magello

637
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: with the elevation change and the fact that you're very

638
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: rarely upright in a straight line on that track, even

639
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: the start finished straight's got the huge undulation is that

640
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: goes over the crest there, So it might be a

641
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: bit of a one off, but there's not been heaps

642
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: of good news for Katie of this year. Let's be honest,

643
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: and a Costa goes from being half grumpy to fully

644
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: grumpy most of the time. So he was only half

645
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 3: grumpy on the weekend because he finished fourth, But a

646
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: cost of being a costas like, are you happy you

647
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: finished fourth? No, I wanted to finish third. That's pretty

648
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: much whatever you give him. If it's not a weird

649
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: he's probably not going to be that thrilled about it,

650
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: But considering where they've been lately, that's a very good.

651
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Result for them, very good result.

652
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: Looking at some of the other manufacturers in the top ten,

653
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: it leads me to micro Bitzeki on.

654
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: Prillia, which also then leads me to the.

655
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: Shock announcement of Mano Gonzales testing with track House on Monday,

656
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: something that I was totally oblivious to, And to be honest,

657
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: when that announcement got made, you could see a lot

658
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: of the journalists in the media sense of going, oh, okay, this.

659
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 4: Is really happening.

660
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, inside word from someone at trackhouse.

661
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: So this is a Prillier driven and not.

662
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: Trackhouse driven, which I thought was very very interesting.

663
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: But then what was Manu.

664
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Two seconds off off the fastest on on Monday.

665
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 4: Decent?

666
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: Pretty decent, I thought, for a guy who's never ridden

667
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: murder GP bike before and had absolutely no way to

668
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: prepare for this, he was just thrown in the deep

669
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: end at the very very last last minute. You know,

670
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: it was super interesting. You say it was a prillier

671
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: thing and not a track house thing. Who looks after trackhouse.

672
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: It's Davide Privio, right, and he's got this awesome track

673
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: record of finding rough diamonds or guys that might not

674
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: necessarily be ready a Moto two and bringing them up

675
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: into Moto GP. He was a guy that bought Maverick

676
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: vinalez in. He was the guy that bought Alex rins In.

677
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: He was a guy who bought Juan mir In. They've

678
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: all won races, mirrors of world champion. If you get

679
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: the nod of approval from David A. Brivio, you're probably

680
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: doing something right. And so, I mean, Gonzales has clearly

681
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: been the guy in Moto two this year he's had

682
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: a couple of rope rounds, the last couple, but yeah,

683
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: a left field test. I like it when these guys

684
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: get thrown in the deep end with very little prep

685
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: because Motor GP and motorsport generally it's all about simulators

686
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: and data and getting yourself as completely ready as possible.

687
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes they can go are you free on Monday? Do

688
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 3: you fancy riding one of these? And of course if

689
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: you've made a Gonzales you're going to say where do I?

690
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Sighn and let me add it? And he would have

691
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: had the best day of his life. Quite what that

692
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: does to his Moto two riding Once we get to

693
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: the next track, of course he's going to have to

694
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: relard everything again. But if you're him, it was a

695
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: complete no lose situation, right, you can get on the

696
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: bike and look really good and impress some people. Yeah

697
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: there's not a spot for him on the grid yet,

698
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: but there will be people looking at that going huh.

699
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: He handled that quite well with absolutely no preparation. And

700
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: Moto two is such a jungle to try and get

701
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: out of to get to Moto GP. Any chance you

702
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: get you got to take it. So interesting decision by Aprilia,

703
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: and I thought he acquisted himself pretty well.

704
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: Well if you were looking at the results from Monday's tests,

705
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: no surprise there. Maverick Vignalees was fastest.

706
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: He is the test.

707
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: But to be honest, they were actually lapping quicker than

708
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: what they were during Sunday's race. In saying that, because

709
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: I was on the ground for Sunday's race when the

710
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: race was actually.

711
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: On, it was hot, so true, temperatures were through the roof.

712
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: So in doing this, you know, some of these these

713
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: lap times that they could have been doing it early

714
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: in the morning, they could have been doing it late afternoon.

715
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: We're not like, you know, it does change, the weather

716
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: does change that there. But one thing I found interesting

717
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: from the test was that someone posted on Instagram saying, ah,

718
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: is there Italians working at KTM now because they were

719
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: testing KTM were testing a new front firing design that

720
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: was literally a copy and paste of the GP twenty five.

721
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: Did you see that, Matt? Do you see the photo?

722
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: Did? Yeah? I did.

723
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: It's one of those things that Decadi will say it's

724
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: a being paste and Katie em will say, I know,

725
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: we were inspired by what they were doing it. There's

726
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: no copying and pasting here. We thought yours was good

727
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: and we decided to build our own version.

728
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: You love these.

729
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: In any top line motorsport, there's always some guy with

730
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: a camera that's wandering up and down pit lane, or

731
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: they're wandering up and down all agree before the race,

732
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: like taking a bit of a sneaky look at what

733
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: everyone else is doing.

734
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: And you know, the what is it? The imitation is

735
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 4: the sincereous form of flattery. Right.

736
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: If you're making something that's good and everyone wants it,

737
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: then you'll start seeing variations of your bike on other

738
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: people's bikes. What they're basically saying is you do it.

739
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: A great job, guys, keep it going. But yeah, it

740
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: is funny, isn't it. There's no secrets in this sport.

741
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 2: There was no secrets in this sport.

742
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: At the race on the weekend as well, Augusto Fernandez

743
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: was filling in a wild card for Yamaha, and what

744
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: we learned was Augusto was trialing a new engine that

745
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: they seemed to be really happy with. So then Augusto

746
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: didn't take part in Monday's test as he was getting

747
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: prepared for a private test with Yamaha. Rumor is now

748
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: the engine that Augusto was using during Sunday's race and

749
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: all weekend is now going to be the new version

750
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: of the engine that Fabio and Alex and Jack and

751
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Miguel are going to be using for the rest of

752
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: the season. But let's talk about Honda as well, because

753
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: Honda this weekend. Yeah, Juan Miir was I think P

754
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: nine on Sunday so strong for Juan. But Zarko having

755
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: come from such a high the previous two races to

756
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: just nowhere this weekend. We kind of spoke about it

757
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: before in the preview that yet this is a track that.

758
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: Maybe wasn't going to suit them.

759
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: But it's looking like during Monday's tests that Zarko felt

760
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: like he'd made progress once again. But this is something

761
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: we keep hearing from him. Yeah, we're making progress. We're

762
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: making progress, right.

763
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

764
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: I think it's funny with Hondra and Yamaha, they're coming

765
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: from so far back right that we see any sort

766
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: of sign of progress like a Zarko win or a

767
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: bunch of coaturo poles. Oh, they're back, they're back. They've

768
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: still got a long way to get back back. There's

769
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: gonna be flashes, and I think that's the way those

770
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: two are going to be this season. There's going to

771
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: be some weekends where they're kind of anonymous, you know.

772
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Zak I'd come off back to back podiums and so

773
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: it was a massive fallback for them, and obviously the

774
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: factory Honda team only had the one rider with Luca

775
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: Marini being out, and it sounds like Marini might be

776
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: out for quite some time by what you're hearing around

777
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: the place. But hat tip to Juan Meir who absolutely

778
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: fuming with Jack Miller on Saturday and he's incredulous Juan

779
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: Meir style. But seventh place on Sunday in the race,

780
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: best result I think since India, remember the one off

781
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: Indian Grand Prix where I melted in twenty twenty three.

782
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: He was actually really quite good and I think he was.

783
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: It was quite funny afterwards, a he was relieved he

784
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 3: didn't crash. We didn't get the Joan mir writer okay

785
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: graphic up on the screen, but he was saying it

786
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: was nice to overtake people and then not have them

787
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: come straight back.

788
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 4: Past you again.

789
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: It was just sort of funny how he mentioned that,

790
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 3: like he was super fired up after finishing seventh, which

791
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: quite frankly, if you'd given that guy seventh three years ago,

792
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: he would have looked at you like, I want more

793
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 3: than that. But my god, it's been desper of him.

794
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: He's a good rider. We just haven't seen him stay

795
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: aboard his bike long enough in the past few years

796
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: to actually do something about it. But on the whole,

797
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: a pretty bla weekend for Honda, a very bla weekend

798
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: for Yamaha. But like you said before, Aragon's a bit

799
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: of an outlier. I don't think that's going to continue.

800
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: They will be inconsistent because they're coming from so far back,

801
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: and there will be flashes. But yeah, Aragon was one

802
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: best forgotten I think for both of them.

803
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: Yes, and for the listeners or the viewers at home.

804
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: Maybe you thought the Aragon Moroto GP race was a

805
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: little boring. Look, I kind of agree with you on

806
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: that because it was the Mark Marquez Show. But if

807
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: you tuned in to Moto two and Moto three, boy,

808
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: go with that. We were talking off I know, we

809
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 1: keep saying that because we have this catch up before

810
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: we come on talking about everything that happened, Let's talk

811
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: about the Moto two prodium. A Turkish writer a Brazilian

812
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: writer and a Belgian writer. The Brazilian writer was on

813
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: poll When do you ever hear of a non Italian

814
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: or a Spanish writer at least somewhere in the top

815
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: three and taking pole in a Motor GP race.

816
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, so true.

817
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: It sounds like the start of a bad joke, doesn't it,

818
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: Like a Turk of Belgium and a Brazilian walked into

819
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: a bar. Insert your own punchline. But yeah, it was

820
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 3: just so nice to see some new faces up there.

821
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: And the last lap of that race, which I do

822
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: I'd had to admit I did watch about three times.

823
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: I still don't know how Dennis Onchu won that because

824
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: you see them coming into the last corner, Well, that's nice,

825
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: it's going to be a close finish, and that's done.

826
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: And then you see the photo finish which they put

827
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: up on the screen, and it was what one third

828
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: of the width of a wheel, like it was absolutely

829
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: crazy if that race had finished one meter earlier than

830
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: Marera's won his first Grand Prix. So yeah, super fun

831
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: result Moto two. Funnily enough, the last couple of rounds

832
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: meant obviously ceterageous. Winning at Silvester was pretty dramatic at

833
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: the end. It's almost served up the best race of

834
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: the day for the last couple of Grand Prix, which

835
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: is not something we often say about Mono two motors

836
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: has been actually pretty interesting this year. Often you get

837
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: these races that are pretty strung out, but certainly the

838
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: last couple have been super fun. But like you said,

839
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: like you just keep waiting for the Italian or the

840
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: Spanish national anthem and neither of them are happening. It's like,

841
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 3: that's weird. But it was super fun though, And Marrera

842
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 3: looks like a guy who might be particularly with Brazil

843
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: coming onto the calendar, and it'd be great to have

844
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: a writer from that part of the world. He's a

845
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 3: guy whose name you would not be surprised at all

846
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: to see in the Motor GP conversation before too long,

847
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: because he's pretty fast and pretty good so early in

848
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: his career.

849
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Like I just mentioned the flags and I pulled up

850
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: the result, So yes, Santa was fourth Australian Phillips a

851
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: latch Czech Republic.

852
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: Then it's the first.

853
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: Italian, a sorry, Spanish of Aaron Connett. Then we go

854
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: to the American of Joe Roberts. So yeah, we are

855
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: seeing this multi cultural like a blend coming in.

856
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, we foundations of the World Championship Love.

857
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gonzales had a terrible qualifying. I was actually in

858
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: Senna's box when that happened and the crash and just

859
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: didn't have time to return. But otherwise it just feels

860
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: like this season kind of has just been the Gonzales

861
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: show with him just running away and you can see why

862
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: he's been off at this little ride, it's little test

863
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: in Moto GP. But then let's go further down to

864
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: Moto three. And I want to touch on Joel Kelso

865
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: because I spent a lot of time with him this weekend.

866
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: He showed me around.

867
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: The track, gave me some pointers for when I make

868
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: my Moto three debut, which is going.

869
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: He gave me some good pointers for.

870
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: The track, and he was talking about this weekend and

871
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: he said, look, this weekend for me, I'm aiming for

872
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: a top.

873
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: Five because this is a track that I feel it is.

874
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Not my strength. And one thing I noticed, and I

875
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw on the Fox Sports

876
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: YouTube where I did my track walk with Joel as

877
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Joel for me, seems like he's looking

878
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: at things really differently. Now he's he's learning to take

879
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: away from the positives but also the negatives and what

880
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: he can learn on. So the sitting there and dwelling

881
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: on it and getting really down in himself. And actually

882
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: saw him after the race and I said, like, that

883
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: was awesome, Like, you know, you got a good start,

884
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: you were consistent.

885
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, he goes, but I know, Magello, I'm

886
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: going to be a lot stronger at and I'm really

887
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: looking forward to that.

888
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: And I think this is we spoke about so many

889
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: times for Joel. Compared to the last year, Joel would

890
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: be so strong for the first half of the race

891
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: and then he drop off. Now we're seeing him progressively consistent.

892
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: And if that consistency means it's a P seven for

893
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: him like it was here in Aragon, then he's taking

894
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: away the positives for that.

895
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

896
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: But let's talk about that Motor three race as well,

897
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: because we had the Aspah boys taken each other out.

898
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: Then we had all that drama, all the.

899
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: Overtaking, the what we love about Moto three, right the

900
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: slip streaming, everything. Joel was telling me about that and

901
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: the last race. But then we go back to the

902
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: old Spanish podium. How's the maximum Kielez though, I mean

903
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: the Mark Marquez little prodigy that's coming through right.

904
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's He's a guy who's making a name

905
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: for himself pretty quickly, isn't he. He's a super we're

906
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: exciting super motor GP at most tracks. Is you know

907
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: you hide behind the couch on the last lap just

908
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: in case something might happen, and certainly an hour ago,

909
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: like where's this going in the last lap? But super

910
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: enjoyable race. The thing you mentioned about Joel before, and

911
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: you know we've known this because we've spoken to him

912
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: for a bunch of years. Now, I reckon it feels

913
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: like he's aged about three years in the last twelve months.

914
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: And I don't mean that in a negative way. There's

915
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: this maturity and belief, and you know he's an experienced

916
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: motor three head now and I don't reckon he gets

917
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: too high or too low with stuff. He's just really

918
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: balanced now as a person, and you see the way

919
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: that translates into his riding.

920
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: He's grown up fast.

921
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: You know, he's been a motor three for a little

922
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: while now, before it was this, Well, that's nice that

923
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: he's got to result and what have you. But he

924
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 3: now knows that he's good enough to fight at the front.

925
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: The results tell you.

926
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: That he is.

927
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: He's really matured into a front line Motor three rider.

928
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 3: And what you just said then about you know, that's

929
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 3: a great result, Aragon. He's already thinking ahead to somewhere

930
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: where he's going to be stronger.

931
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: That's not what last year.

932
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: He would have been fuming about something, or he would

933
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: have been taken it really badly and taken a few

934
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: days to come down from it. Now he's got this

935
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: sort of thirty five thousand foot view where he looks

936
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: at what's next and this is a race I can

937
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: capitalize on. This is one where it might be a

938
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: bit of damage limitation. He's putting together a really nice championship.

939
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: It's really good to see because it feels like it's

940
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: nice to have an Australian that's really legit at the

941
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: front of that championship now and he really does look

942
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: like that.

943
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: This year he spoke to us about his goal of

944
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: eventually going to Moto GP, which means he does have

945
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: to step through Moto two. And I think this new

946
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: mentality is what he needs to become.

947
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: A Moto two writer couldn't agree.

948
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: Even though the age difference between Joel, Jacob and Senna

949
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: is not that much. Now we're seeing Joel acting more

950
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: like Senna, and I think Senna's had that experience coming

951
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: through the European Championship and then going straight into Moto

952
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: two where he's constantly looking forward, looking at things very differently,

953
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: Joel's now taking that step up.

954
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: And we saw this weekend.

955
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't a good result for Jacob Rulestone

956
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: with that DNF, and I think it was a mechanical issue. Yeah. Technique, Yeah,

957
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: technical issues, So yeah, obviously not his fault. But I'm

958
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: starting to now go is the pressure starting to.

959
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 2: Get to Jacob as well?

960
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: Because this is his second year with the TEKTA team.

961
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's a championship winning it's a race winning team.

962
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Is that pressure starting to be amounted on his shoulders?

963
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: And is he starting to crack a little bit?

964
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

965
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 3: Look, I think there's a bit of impatience there, which

966
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: is understandable. I mean, obviously the start of his season

967
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: he was injured through you know, circumstances, and it's taken

968
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: him a while to get back to being where he

969
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: needs to be. You know, there's not many Australians in

970
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 3: this World Championship paddock, and because these guys are all

971
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: similar ages and they've come at it from really different directions,

972
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: but they'll all be looking at each other's results. And

973
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: Joel's been on podiums and sent us one of Grand

974
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: Prix and you know, so the pressure there comes from

975
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: probably wanting to keep up with the guys that have

976
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: got the same passport, right, because you're always mentioned in

977
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: the same conversation, you're going to be compared to what

978
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: your compatriots are doing because there's so few of you.

979
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: So it's been a rough go for Jacob this year

980
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: because he's just not really had a great run at

981
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: it because he was injured and then recovering from injury.

982
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: It was a shame that he was in a good

983
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: position to get a good result. And then, I mean,

984
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: it's motorcycle racing. Bikes are going to have technicals from

985
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: time to time and it's going to happen. Those ones

986
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: never hurt quite so much when you're circulating in thirteenth right,

987
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: Like when you're in a good position to get somewhere

988
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 3: and there's something out of your control takes it out

989
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: of your hands. I think the positive for him was

990
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 3: the speed was there. He looked like he belonged up there.

991
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: The whole weekend had been pretty strong. You just have

992
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: to shrug your shoulders with the technical and move on

993
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: and try and replicate that for the next one. But

994
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 3: isn't it nice that we're talking about guys being Australian

995
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: guys being in strong positions in races and good positions

996
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 3: in the championship and the glass is very much half

997
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: full because we've had seasons in the past where you know,

998
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: it was either Jack Miller or Bust. We were getting

999
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 3: nothing on the World Championship stage. There were other guys

1000
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: kind of making up the numbers here and there.

1001
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: You'd get a.

1002
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: Random Kelso podium and a soaked Philip Island, which was

1003
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: a super outline back in twenty three. But it's just

1004
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: nice to have guys in each World chair beget category.

1005
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 4: Now.

1006
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: As an Australian fan, we you look at it and go, huh,

1007
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: we could be fighting for something meaningful here. It definitely

1008
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: makes the whole Sunday night on the couch for everyone

1009
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 3: in Australia pretty enjoyable, I think definitely.

1010
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: And you know, we've got the youngsters like Carter Thompson

1011
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: who were going to catch up soon, these guys coming.

1012
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: Through the Red Bull Rookies.

1013
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: The actually I ran into Harrison Voyd, who's doing the

1014
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: Super Sport World Championship. You know, the Aussie guys, they're

1015
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: all there, they're all supporting each other. It's a fact

1016
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: of us as a nation need to get behind them

1017
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: as well and help support them and cheer them on

1018
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: from our sofas because they're over there representing their country

1019
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: in countries there they're living in for the first time

1020
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: and having to experience everything new, and they're so far

1021
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: away from home that it is nice. Like when Senna

1022
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: was on the podium, Joel and Jacob Jack they all

1023
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: came down to celebrate with him because we're all in

1024
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: this together. And it's funny because even now I'm over

1025
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: here only for four races, but all of a sudden,

1026
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: all the Australian get together, which is really really nice.

1027
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: To be a part of.

1028
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: All ten of you get together at the same time,

1029
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: we're very much a minority in that paddock. But you're right,

1030
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: I did certainly notice that we'd said of winning at Silveston,

1031
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: where everyone just suddenly appeared in Park fer Me to

1032
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: wish him all the best for what he had done.

1033
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: The thing we have to remember is that, you know,

1034
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: Motor GP, there's only twenty two guys on this grid,

1035
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: and there's no right that there's some sort of Australian

1036
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: on there. We've had great World champions obviously, but to

1037
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: have a writer in that World Championship from this part

1038
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: of the world, it's a really hard thing to do.

1039
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 4: We've been a little bit spoiled because.

1040
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: Jack's been there for ten years and he's just been

1041
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: ever present and he's won some Grand Prix and given

1042
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: us lots of great moments and whatever happens with Yamaha.

1043
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: You know, Jack's certainly closer to the end of his

1044
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 3: World Championship career than the beginning. I mean, he'd say

1045
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: that himself. But one of these younger guys coming through

1046
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 3: the feeder classes is going to be the next guy.

1047
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: And that's the exciting thing. Like, there's nothing more exciting

1048
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: than seeing an Australian guy on the ground floor as

1049
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: they're sort of getting their feet wet and becoming who

1050
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: they are. These are the days you remember. You remember

1051
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: the Jack Millermoto three days where doing the worm in

1052
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: the gravel trap at the French Grand Prix, and he's

1053
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 3: got a terrible haircut, he's crying on the podium in

1054
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 3: guitar and all these sorts of things.

1055
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: That's the Jack Miller story. And now we're seeing some

1056
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: of these young.

1057
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 3: Guys that are starting to write their own stories and

1058
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: let's hope one or more of them ends up on

1059
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: the Premier class.

1060
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: Grew at some.

1061
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: Point, definitely, But we only have one week before we

1062
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: head to Migello. So you're on F one Judy's once

1063
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: again in Canada. Love that for you, with a really.

1064
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Good time zone in Australia.

1065
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: Right dig you be heads to Magello and as you mentioned,

1066
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: this is Peco Bangay's ground, so we've gone from Marquez

1067
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Land to Peko Banyaya hopefully masterclass in Magello. As I've

1068
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: mentioned a lot though in this podcast, you can listen

1069
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: read Matt's articles on Fox sports dot com, do Au Forward,

1070
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: Slash Motorsport, and I've mentioned a few videos. I did

1071
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: a really cool behind the scenes of what Jack Miller

1072
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: does in a day to see his time stamps of

1073
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: what day in the life of our workday, A nine

1074
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: to five shall we call it Jack Miller, So you

1075
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: can check that out on the Fox Sports YouTube. Also,

1076
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: my track Walk with Joel Kelso gets some really good

1077
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: insights into Aragon and we talk about Joel's mental mental

1078
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: abilities right now and where he's at, but also what

1079
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: he misses from Australia, what food he misses from here.

1080
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: So that was a good little insight into the world

1081
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: of Joel.

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Speaker 1: Keep up to date though with all the ladies news,

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Speaker 1: also on our socials at Fox Motorsport everywhere Matt's articles

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