Speaker 1: Well, coups on back, mate, that's been Where have you
Speaker 1: been Washington? P and G and a terrible bout of
Speaker 1: influenza and you've.
Speaker 2: Come back with a terrible haircut on the way.
Speaker 3: Let me well, then those drone shots in P and
Speaker 3: G where it's happy with them.
Speaker 1: I looked and I just went, Jesus, the boys might
Speaker 1: have a point. But it will happen, mate, I'm too coop.
Speaker 1: It'll happen. Don't worry. I mean not that long ago.
Speaker 1: I was actually considering getting a perm at one point.
Speaker 1: And then suddenly what happens is it just starts. You
Speaker 1: start to see little things happen.
Speaker 4: So you you're trying to grow new hair.
Speaker 3: Now you get rid of my wife.
Speaker 1: She started buying all these concoctions, but it was doing nothing.
Speaker 3: It'll happen, mate, You'll be and I guarantee you.
Speaker 1: You give you one of those blokes that's got one
Speaker 1: hair and you'll just you'll put it around like a turban.
Speaker 1: And every time the Norris change happened, I'll be just
Speaker 1: this one here, just.
Speaker 3: Like a lassu.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the last three shows, you haven't been here to
Speaker 2: be in the highest rating, so.
Speaker 4: Continue it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: Continue bullshit a state of origin, big big difference, Coops.
Speaker 3: From your angle, what do you think.
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost like criticism sharpens the sword for New
Speaker 2: South Wales and praise just softens the mindset slightly. And
Speaker 2: in origin decider like if you just get a little
Speaker 2: bit of difference of what you've done for two games previous.
Speaker 2: I think New South Wales played the way that we
Speaker 2: probably all expected them to play throughout the series. They
Speaker 2: got it done in the biggest moment, I thought, clearly,
Speaker 2: obviously great painhas terrific. The back roll is just annoyed
Speaker 2: the New Queensland halves, and there's just a couple of
Speaker 2: errors at Queensland that just cost them big time. And
Speaker 2: when you give a bit like Game one, New South
Speaker 2: Wales had all those errors to.
Speaker 4: Start the game.
Speaker 2: Queensland dominated field positions called points and New South Wales
Speaker 2: did exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3: I thought. I thought New South bal was really simplified.
Speaker 3: They were attack to Coops, I thought, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, and I reckon, we see that the player that
Speaker 1: I think symbolizes that most was Nathan, you know, and
Speaker 1: Coops you were Nathan very very similar players, and Nathan
Speaker 1: plays in a system like your Melbourne system at Penrith
Speaker 1: at club Land, which is very complex.
Speaker 3: It's a complex system.
Speaker 1: There's you know, the players are like pawns. Everyone is
Speaker 1: in their exact right spot, hitting the gap at the
Speaker 1: right point. It's very hard and that but that and
Speaker 1: that type of system let people don't takes you a
Speaker 1: long while to master.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a couple of moments to me early
Speaker 2: on that said Nathan was in for a big game.
Speaker 2: When we ran out in the field, like he smiled,
Speaker 2: he looked like he was just dialed in and nothing
Speaker 2: was going to phase him. And there was a state
Speaker 2: when he scored that first try that was a statement.
Speaker 2: That was statement that New South Wales's best player is
Speaker 2: on in Queensland. You're going to have to go up
Speaker 2: another couple of gears to stop him.
Speaker 1: The similarities between you and you and Nathan, I see
Speaker 1: that through the difficulty in the past that Nathan and
Speaker 1: Teddy have had trying to form combination. I remember the
Speaker 1: first half of the year you guys played together. It
Speaker 1: was like you were playing one style of football, he
Speaker 1: was trying to play the other.
Speaker 3: Eventually he's got it right. And as far as.
Speaker 1: That relationship in this game, you know, we're playmakers and
Speaker 1: we have a playmaker bias. So I was always like,
Speaker 1: come on, Teddy, you've got to bend and Nathan, you
Speaker 1: got to play Nathan ball. On the other night, Nathan
Speaker 1: played more Teddy ball. It was like straight a lot
Speaker 1: of direct running.
Speaker 2: To talk about the system, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what system you're in place.
Speaker 4: If you're a spine.
Speaker 2: As soon as you get a quick play the ball,
Speaker 2: play north South, not east west. Take him on early
Speaker 2: and just react to quick momentum. I thought Payton Hass
Speaker 2: was brilliant, but it was just a big epic context
Speaker 2: like how good is origin as a decider. I don't
Speaker 2: miss football at all. But I'll tell you what, when
Speaker 2: the game kicked off, that's the type of game you'd
Speaker 2: like to be involved.
Speaker 1: If you look the Blues tries coops you said about
Speaker 1: playing North South, just about all New South Wales tries.
Speaker 3: Whereas the result of.
Speaker 1: Playing through Coinsland, it's very different to the first couple
Speaker 1: of games.
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean he's one right foot.
Speaker 4: That's a halfbacks stream to start the game.
Speaker 3: It is close.
Speaker 2: The line back roll comes off, sideways, run forward, beat them,
Speaker 2: score and that just set the time like annoying months
Speaker 2: to dear Lean Martin and clear is just you know,
Speaker 2: the beneficiuy of some pretty good interchange of passing. But
Speaker 2: it was a great start from New South Wales. Powerful
Speaker 2: and I thought Reuben Cotton made an error. It was
Speaker 2: almost like which team blink first, kind of made that
Speaker 2: era at New South Wales scored two tries.
Speaker 4: That was pretty soft, but that was the difference at
Speaker 4: the end of the beginning of the game.
Speaker 3: Quickly it's talking. I mean a lot's been said about it.
Speaker 1: It was there's no doubt like when you look at
Speaker 1: there was that angle where you could see it Flicky's
Speaker 1: fingers and they said, oh, but the other angle it
Speaker 1: went and you go, but hang on first angle the
Speaker 1: seats it touched off.
Speaker 3: Three key moments we'll do.
Speaker 1: My first key moment is that coops for the first
Speaker 1: minutes of the game, New South Wales were really under
Speaker 1: the pump. I thought that Queensland were dominating yardage that
Speaker 1: looked very good. And then sometimes just the tiniest thing
Speaker 1: will happen, just a little thing, just that little pebble
Speaker 1: in the pond, and you see the residual.
Speaker 3: Effect and it was Jack Bostov.
Speaker 1: Bostock just accelerates between defenders here like that is really simple,
Speaker 1: but okay, gets up, gets it six again and New
Speaker 1: South Wales could not get field positioned. Just that simple run,
Speaker 1: that tiny little penetration there give him six more. After that,
Speaker 1: New south Wales dominated yardage for the next for the
Speaker 1: entire person.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't bounce off his left and get through
Speaker 2: to defenders, Nicker rag dolls him backwards. Yeah, and that
Speaker 2: means they're what twenty meters off where the next play
Speaker 2: the ball means means they're twenty meters further away from
Speaker 2: the kick. One of the moments for me was Mitch
Speaker 2: Moses kicking game just in general, like if there was
Speaker 2: any field position or defensive lits win from Queensland, his
Speaker 2: kick made it neutral.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And it was good play from Nathan just to say, hey, Mitch,
Speaker 2: whenever inside forty you take care of it. Because he
Speaker 2: was turning average sets into good sets, he was turning
Speaker 2: bad sets into neutral sets.
Speaker 4: He just kicked the absolute cover off the.
Speaker 1: Football and it really helped Nathan out because I mean,
Speaker 1: Nathan has suffered from soft tissue injuries and I got
Speaker 1: no doubt as a result of how much work.
Speaker 3: He put to his long kicks and short kicks. The
Speaker 3: alders to relieve.
Speaker 1: Himself for that long kicking game and just focus on
Speaker 1: the attacking kicks.
Speaker 4: It's exactly how we thought would happen.
Speaker 2: In Game two, we spoke about Mitch Moe's being the
Speaker 2: five eight and just doing this like honestly, like he's
Speaker 2: kicking a different football at times compared to Sam Walker
Speaker 2: and Monster.
Speaker 3: During this game, another moment for me was Stephen Crichton.
Speaker 3: Stephen Crichton.
Speaker 1: One of the things that defines to find the first
Speaker 1: two games was the innability of New South Wales right
Speaker 1: aage to control that favorite side with Nathan with Kaylyn
Speaker 1: just wing into the left. Crichton coming to the side
Speaker 1: was vital. There was a couple of defensive reads early
Speaker 1: and I think gave confidence this one. He just backs
Speaker 1: off a little bit, you know, he doesn't commit himself
Speaker 1: to a decision.
Speaker 3: Up another one here out banged. Now these ones.
Speaker 1: Really interesting good center defense. It was just the presence
Speaker 1: of him here. There is genuine opportunity there. But you
Speaker 1: see him just go up and that just spooked Monster again.
Speaker 2: They are only little body movements, but that's elite defense.
Speaker 2: Like those players at Queensland were thrown at him. That
Speaker 2: was pretty good. Cap Well Pong Munthster in and around it,
Speaker 2: and he had his head on a swivel and made
Speaker 2: some good defensive played. That is Stephen Krichton at his best.
Speaker 2: He is the best center in the world and defensively
Speaker 2: it is hard to get past. He's had some issues,
Speaker 2: but that game was a moment for me. I already
Speaker 2: said it was the rubn coottter error to start with
Speaker 2: in a big game. Origin decided these two teams were
Speaker 2: ferocious at each other and it's almost like who is
Speaker 2: the first team to blink? And Cotda is a beast,
Speaker 2: Codda is a worker and as soon as he dropped
Speaker 2: that ball, it was just a little win, a little
Speaker 2: victory for New South Wales.
Speaker 4: So I think that set the tide for the game.
Speaker 1: Kem Murray, there's another moment for me that Kem Murray try.
Speaker 1: That was just evidence of how New South Wales was
Speaker 1: winning the yardage game and how they're direct North South
Speaker 1: type of football was working. I mean, as far as
Speaker 1: Origin standards, I don't like the years that the word soft, but.
Speaker 4: That is.
Speaker 2: Adam Phil Blake came onto the field started causing some
Speaker 2: rough speed and the fact that is it Reuben Cottter
Speaker 2: there just allowed space. Kem Murray has the ability to
Speaker 2: move his body in a way that he can get
Speaker 2: through gaps and a meter out for the line to
Speaker 2: have Ruben Kotta just a meter off of space allowed
Speaker 2: Murray to spin turn and get that ball down. That
Speaker 2: was a big play actually, because it went from being
Speaker 2: a competitive game on the school board like Queensland school one,
Speaker 2: like they did before halftime, that one blew it out
Speaker 2: to a dominant start.
Speaker 3: Yep yeap.
Speaker 1: Certainly some of the key performances Paynt hass was. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's very very rare that he doesn't have a dominant game.
Speaker 1: But what was interesting about this one Laurie had him
Speaker 1: operating wher in a wider field position to get at
Speaker 1: the east defenders.
Speaker 3: Haven't seen him use much like that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, steamrolled Camera Munster a couple of times. He was enormous.
Speaker 2: He was so good. Nathan gets a lot of apps.
Speaker 2: But the couple of key performers for me is not
Speaker 2: necessarily the new South Wales halfback. It's this guy, but
Speaker 2: that that's one of one with a monthster on the edge.
Speaker 4: That is game plan.
Speaker 1: And then funny coops like we look at tackle counts
Speaker 1: a lot of times aren't accurate. I think attempted tackles
Speaker 1: should count because I mean, if you look at Pain
Speaker 1: every time he takes the ball up, you know he's
Speaker 1: basically until mostly he's got five guys attempting.
Speaker 2: Look at this, Sam Walker, like, can't get the body
Speaker 2: in front. Quick play the ball, the damage is done.
Speaker 2: Next look at this, Yeah, bump down the road, get down,
Speaker 2: play the ball. So when Paine starts tackle two on
Speaker 2: Sam Walker or Camera Munster, it might be a three
Speaker 2: second player the ball, but the fact is the next
Speaker 2: one's a three and a half second player. Then the
Speaker 2: try scored on a four and our second play the
Speaker 2: boo because Queensland defense cannot set so Sam and months
Speaker 2: to make a tackle. But as you said, it's the
Speaker 2: compound effect of that quick play the ball that paint
Speaker 2: Us generates that ends up scoring a try at some stage.
Speaker 3: And just rolling off that.
Speaker 1: If you're going to talk about Pain hats and that
Speaker 1: combination working, then Adam Faniel Blake, paint comes goes off
Speaker 1: the field, Adam comes on and we've been waiting. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for Adam to play his best football
Speaker 1: on that level because before the game, if you tell
Speaker 1: me Payne Hasse and Adam fanil Blake are really dominant,
Speaker 1: I just go, we're going to win it.
Speaker 2: Laurie Daly got this change exactly right, brought him on
Speaker 2: at exactly the right time. But credit to for noil Blake.
Speaker 2: His first four or five charges were like that, that
Speaker 2: is good sort of momentum, good statement.
Speaker 4: No, he played well, like just there was just moments.
Speaker 4: Look at that.
Speaker 2: That's a big body find the front, fighting through ageinst
Speaker 2: the offload. That's Adam fanil Blake at his best. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That late footwork is just so dangerous.
Speaker 1: You get big guys, you know where reached defenders and
Speaker 1: you get big guys running at you and you can
Speaker 1: handle them to a certain extent.
Speaker 3: At times, but when they've got late footwork made, it
Speaker 3: makes them so different. It's so difficult.
Speaker 2: One the other key performers for me mate from a
Speaker 2: New South Wales point of view, the Hudson Young Leam Martin.
Speaker 2: They were annoying physical presence. There was a Hudson Young
Speaker 2: gave Way penalty on Sam Walker which ultimately was a penalty,
Speaker 2: but I don't mind it because he's making a young
Speaker 2: halfback realize that I'm about to know the hell out
Speaker 2: of you for the next eighty minutes.
Speaker 1: They came as advertised and that both of them came out.
Speaker 1: They did, and just so we're going to go. We're
Speaker 1: going to go like and that was instructed, no doubt
Speaker 1: from Laurie to say, mate, come on, let's put this
Speaker 1: guy on notice.
Speaker 2: Take some kahounas to say that during the week and
Speaker 2: then go and deliver. We've seen a lot of people
Speaker 2: say things during the week like they're going to talk
Speaker 2: a big game, but then not back it up. HUDs
Speaker 2: and Young was great. Leam Martin's defense. He's intimidating as
Speaker 2: anyone in the competition.
Speaker 1: Yep, some of that shots he put on the times
Speaker 1: and like you said before, I once go far to
Speaker 1: say as so far to say, as you know, he's
Speaker 1: in Monster's head all the time.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just irritating.
Speaker 4: He's not it's just a good battle.
Speaker 2: But you could highlight clips and say months want of
Speaker 2: victory there, Lean Martin's won a victory there.
Speaker 4: But he is just he is just a He is
Speaker 4: a rep player through and through Lear Martin.
Speaker 1: And you see him in the sheds a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, had him in the sheds. He was doing
Speaker 1: the breathing exercise and it was just evidence of how
Speaker 1: he gets himself up emotionally well.
Speaker 4: He knows he needs to.
Speaker 2: There's a guy that's the lead, that knows where he
Speaker 2: needs to be at and if he's redlining too much,
Speaker 2: he probably gives away a penalty here there, it costs
Speaker 2: his team. So those type of exercises, not only Martin,
Speaker 2: every player in the competition is doing it to try
Speaker 2: and get themselves in the perfect state to go and perform.
Speaker 2: And he was brilliant like that is a type of
Speaker 2: performance that has Lia Martin picked in every New South
Speaker 2: Wales team from here on out.
Speaker 3: We spoke on Mitch most as four coups and you
Speaker 3: got to give Laurier Rappi. He took some.
Speaker 1: He took some big gambles as far as selections, as
Speaker 1: far as not so much changing the team but keeping
Speaker 1: some of the guys in. There was the Tedesco situation
Speaker 1: that I thought he was under threat from Dylan Edwards.
Speaker 3: Moses is the.
Speaker 1: Big one because that second game he struggled in that
Speaker 1: second game, but more than that that the follow up
Speaker 1: performance against Sow Sitting in that Friday night game, it
Speaker 1: was as bad as you see Mitchell play, and.
Speaker 3: He looked out of sorts. He looked a long way
Speaker 3: from fit.
Speaker 1: I asked Lori again, and I said, picking Mitchell, did
Speaker 1: you have a conversation with Mitchell before Game three?
Speaker 3: And did you consult Nathan? And he said no, I didn't.
Speaker 1: He said, I picked him in game two even though
Speaker 1: I knew he was one hundred percent fit with Game
Speaker 1: three in mind, because you want there one nil up
Speaker 1: in the series.
Speaker 3: He knew how Portny was going to be.
Speaker 1: He said, if I knew I picked him in game two,
Speaker 1: he might have been a little bit off, but I
Speaker 1: was backing to be right for game three.
Speaker 2: That's like for every rat that Billy got last year,
Speaker 2: for what dropping Cherry Evans bringing in did and ultimately
Speaker 2: won the series, Laurie deserves exactly the same credit because
Speaker 2: that was a balancing Do you bring Ethan Strange in?
Speaker 4: Do you stick with Moses?
Speaker 2: And I'm going to give mos a big rap here
Speaker 2: for a guy that has confidence, likes to be the
Speaker 2: main man. He realized that Nathan was on scored the
Speaker 2: first two tries.
Speaker 4: So what's Mitch to, I'm going to kick us to
Speaker 4: victory here.
Speaker 2: Every time we're in a bad spot, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be the guy that kicks at sixty on the fly
Speaker 2: and we're going to start winning this battle because winning
Speaker 2: for New South Wales is way more important than someone
Speaker 2: being the big dog on the night. So he definitely
Speaker 2: played second field. But it was a class act performance
Speaker 2: from Mitch.
Speaker 1: Let's as we look at Nathan Cleary's all these sort
Speaker 1: of quality touches and touches throughout the discussion about him.
Speaker 1: I think there were two types of commentary going into
Speaker 1: the game, and I thought both were inaccurate in some ways.
Speaker 1: The first one was, oh, Nathan made if he does
Speaker 1: name up here, he's never going to be remember it
Speaker 1: as a great origin player and.
Speaker 3: Spot might be that's wrong.
Speaker 1: To the other one, that was wrong too, mate, Nathan's
Speaker 1: got nothing to prove, He's got nothing to prove gun
Speaker 1: in the state of origent. I thought that one was
Speaker 1: wrong as well, wrong right, mate, And what he did,
Speaker 1: if anything he had to you could see he wanted
Speaker 1: to prove it to himself that he could take his domination,
Speaker 1: which he does at club level at Penrith and do
Speaker 1: it at State of Origin level.
Speaker 2: I don't think could play a couple of poor Origin
Speaker 2: series and I still believe he's one of the greats,
Speaker 2: Like he is a freak of nage. The way that
Speaker 2: he's been able to develop his career control some really
Speaker 2: brilliant moments. And the one thing for me that worried
Speaker 2: me during the week and the lead up was him
Speaker 2: owning a performance, owning a bad performance when an elite
Speaker 2: player can sit there and go, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't good. I didn't deliver on x Onye and Z,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to work on that and I'm going
Speaker 2: to deliver in the next one. That is the sign
Speaker 2: of a gunplayer. And you just know the way that
Speaker 2: Nathan plays that two bad performances are never consecutive. There
Speaker 2: is a big gap between a bad performance and his
Speaker 2: next one. It just happened to be an Origin decider
Speaker 2: and Queensland with a victim of his performance and will.
Speaker 3: Done to Isaiah Ah two. He was captain of the series.
Speaker 1: She had a lot of great leadership going into game three.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought a lot of people thought that'd
Speaker 1: start with Murray, but Laurie stuck with his skipper there.
Speaker 3: So made he was terrific. And coming out of that series.
Speaker 1: I look at, you know, Penrith in the last month,
Speaker 1: during the origin period, there has been a lot of distractions.
Speaker 3: It's a roller coach for those players.
Speaker 1: But coming out of that series, the way the Penrith
Speaker 1: players performed, you just got made. They're going to take
Speaker 1: some sort of stopping three players coops you thought, and
Speaker 1: enhanced their reputation.
Speaker 2: Sam Walker, yeah, definitely elevated himself from a potential REP
Speaker 2: player to a REP player, but Game three knocked him
Speaker 2: back a little bit and Nathan went to another level.
Speaker 4: He needs a final way to go to.
Speaker 2: Nathan's level went on the back foote.
Speaker 3: For me, yeah, big time.
Speaker 2: I thought he was Queensland's best player across the series.
Speaker 2: If you're give in Queensland's best player, that was Selwyn
Speaker 2: and Hudson Young before the game. Hudson before Game one.
Speaker 2: Hudson would have been if he plays while he's in
Speaker 2: the side, but if he doesn't, maybe Ola Kawa t
Speaker 2: Martin fits in. His performance consistently and particularly Game three,
Speaker 2: he's now elevated to He was probably already elite, but
Speaker 2: he's very much intrenched into elite status.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Sam Walker, it was an obvious one.
Speaker 3: Saw and Cobo as well. I also had Bradman best
Speaker 3: down there.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, we underestimate him, Like whenever you think, right,
Speaker 1: we're going who we're going to pick and you go
Speaker 1: Stephen Crichton, Latrelle and have all these other guys. Bradman
Speaker 1: gets forgotten to a certain extent, but he always aims up.
Speaker 1: And the other one I've got is Max Plath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Max was just fantastic through that series.
Speaker 4: Something about Bradman.
Speaker 2: He just likes the big stage right, like at Newcastle
Speaker 2: on a Sunday afternoon. Sometimes he comes up with some
Speaker 2: poor decisions defensively, but Jesus he's got it right. Particularly
Speaker 2: if you can get it right at an origin decide
Speaker 2: at suncle can play well, you can get it right anywhere.
Speaker 3: Coops club Land.
Speaker 1: Firstly, Draaan Leua the Leuis situation been released from his
Speaker 1: final year the contract before he joins P and G.
Speaker 3: Has it surprised you? Yeah?
Speaker 4: It has.
Speaker 2: Him probably taking up that option and going didn't. But
Speaker 2: the Tiger's moving him on is a surprise. There's something
Speaker 2: something shifted at the Tigers, because you go to the
Speaker 2: first third of the year, they were playing pretty good
Speaker 2: and probably finals bound.
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, it was on the horizon. There's something
Speaker 4: that has shifted.
Speaker 1: They look like I looked at them coops, and I
Speaker 1: just thought, mate, the way the game has evolved in
Speaker 1: the last eight of the months really suits their football.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think like when they played well in the first third,
Speaker 2: it was almost like the arrogance in a good way,
Speaker 2: confidence that we can play and no one could beat
Speaker 2: his type. Thing like Benji had that as a player,
Speaker 2: and it was Loui's got that as a player. It
Speaker 2: started feeding through the to the to the Maze and
Speaker 2: the Feinus and all the rest of them. But then
Speaker 2: it hit the skids six weeks ago. There was a
Speaker 2: like a brotherhood at the Tigers that was building. It
Speaker 2: feels like the Louis departure. Maybe it's p Andng, maybe
Speaker 2: it's not. I just don't know what to make of it.
Speaker 2: I would have kept Loui. I'm Benjing the Tigers. I
Speaker 2: would have kept him the guys one Grand Finals. The
Speaker 2: guy's played our You can get information and learnings for
Speaker 2: those next gen.
Speaker 4: I would have kept him around for twelve months.
Speaker 2: I get that you can free up money and provide
Speaker 2: for those other players, but I think those other players
Speaker 2: that you want to upgrade are going to be better
Speaker 2: with the example of Jerome around.
Speaker 1: I totally agree, and we'll get to Paramatta on that
Speaker 1: in a second. But it's a really complex question. Buying
Speaker 1: Lui hasn't been a success. Well, if you look as
Speaker 1: far as results concern play finals football, it hasn't. But
Speaker 1: I think as far as changing the perception of the
Speaker 1: club and helping sign others, it has been.
Speaker 2: The players have resigned and recommitted and come to the
Speaker 2: Tigers because of Jerome and the way they're playing, particularly
Speaker 2: in the first third. That's why I I don't think
Speaker 2: I would have let him go. Like, if you're Jerome
Speaker 2: now you've got this big paypacket coming for P and G.
Speaker 4: You've got twelve months, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: Yes, Paramatta is there, Yes he'll get some big money
Speaker 2: thrown out, But going home to Penrith is not a
Speaker 2: bad idea. I'm going to put myself in his shoes.
Speaker 2: I'm going back to Penrith. You know why, because P
Speaker 2: and G I'm gonna earn a.
Speaker 4: Lot of money.
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna have to build a club before I
Speaker 2: start winning more games and lose.
Speaker 4: And Penrith is home.
Speaker 2: It's almost just going back and putting your comfy clothes
Speaker 2: on and getting back some familiar relationships winning games. And
Speaker 2: he could actually probably be a better play by when
Speaker 2: he goes to P and G going to Penrith with
Speaker 2: Tiger's going to top up some of his money, right,
Speaker 2: so he's going to go for a little bit.
Speaker 4: But if I'm Jerome, I'm going back to.
Speaker 3: This is It's a really interesting one because.
Speaker 1: At what point, at what point does to do the
Speaker 1: Tigers maybe say, hang on a second, we're not being
Speaker 1: offered enough money here. I mean, the last thing that
Speaker 1: Tigers want to be doing throwing six hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got them, can't You cannot do that.
Speaker 1: So if Paramatter or the Penorists or the Perth Bears
Speaker 1: don't come to the party, it could be a situation
Speaker 1: where you say, guys, I mean, it's untenable really to say,
Speaker 1: actually we've changing your mind.
Speaker 3: Now we're going to side. We're going to keep you
Speaker 3: for that last year.
Speaker 1: I don't know you would think that negotiation is a
Speaker 1: fair way down the line, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: they are one year at Paramatta. They did it with Jonah.
Speaker 1: I think there's more value in one year with Jerome
Speaker 1: all the things we're talking about, as far as you know,
Speaker 1: helping the younger players.
Speaker 4: Well, if I'm.
Speaker 2: Jason Ryles, obviously like they need elite players and Jerome
Speaker 2: fits that Moses and Jerome have played together before. But
Speaker 2: if I'm Jerome, I've got a huge paypacker coming. I
Speaker 2: think I'm going home to Penrith.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, Daniel two Po three hundred games you played alongside him.
Speaker 3: I say it on the show last night. I'd realized
Speaker 3: sort of at the end of the game, when you
Speaker 3: know everything was going on.
Speaker 1: I've never heard Daniel two Per talk.
Speaker 3: I never have.
Speaker 1: He's been in such a long time. But he's so
Speaker 1: shy and humble. I've never ever heard him interviewed.
Speaker 2: You don't hear him, but you see him both on
Speaker 2: and off the field. Right, you won't call a play
Speaker 2: playing with him, But I'll tell you what, when you
Speaker 2: need someone to turn up, he'll do it. He'll take
Speaker 2: that yardage carry, he'll score that try. Game three hundred
Speaker 2: scored three tries. The funny thing is, like he's third
Speaker 2: on the all time try list. Right, you got Ken
Speaker 2: Irvine and Alex Johnston in front, who.
Speaker 4: Are out and outstars.
Speaker 2: But there's an argument to say that Tupo's a better
Speaker 2: winger overall than those two because he's got just as
Speaker 2: many tries. But for the runs and the meters and
Speaker 2: the tough carries, Tubo smashes them in terms of stats,
Speaker 2: So he should He's probably not in the conversation for
Speaker 2: best winger, but he should be in the conversation one
Speaker 2: of the best wingers this game is ever.
Speaker 1: One of those guys easy to underestimate for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: Is he a good fella, terrific fella, You wouldn't mind him.
Speaker 2: Matthew is a bit of an undercover brother, so one
Speaker 2: of the boys that likes to be shy, but when
Speaker 2: he lets Lucy's a good man.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good. I like that. I really like that.
Speaker 4: But you're not undercover, by the way.
Speaker 3: I just with that air, you can't go anywhere an
Speaker 3: open book. Shark sixty six nil.
Speaker 4: Seriously, how.
Speaker 3: Like we've spoken in.
Speaker 1: The last couple of months in around the Dolphins when
Speaker 1: a game winning streak, and we're going this is it teems
Speaker 1: that can win the competition.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to think.
Speaker 1: Now, you can't ignore that, but you can't ignore the
Speaker 1: eight game winning streak either. I mean, yes, they had
Speaker 1: some key men out. I understand all that, but.
Speaker 2: Well, weeks before that key man out and Scratch Claude
Speaker 2: Fort never gave up their goal line like they did.
Speaker 2: You don't need to be an Origin player to tackle
Speaker 2: and work hard. And the fact is that those sixty
Speaker 2: odd points that Sharks scored, the players of the Dolphins
Speaker 2: defensively didn't stand up for Christian Will's fundamentals.
Speaker 4: Defensively. That's a worry.
Speaker 2: Now you can bring Izy car Tar and all those
Speaker 2: rep players back in and yeah, that school line doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: But there is a systematic flawed defensively from the players
Speaker 2: outside the best to the next crop that just didn't
Speaker 2: get it right.
Speaker 1: And we're not giving the Sharks enough credit. Nico Hines
Speaker 1: has been really good the last couple of weeks. What
Speaker 1: I like about Niko's game, the last couple of performances
Speaker 1: in your seat here, we always said Nico made he
Speaker 1: plays his best when runs the football, but you just
Speaker 1: can't run the football blindly. What I like it about it,
Speaker 1: He's running the football, but he's got he's got.
Speaker 3: An outcome in mind. It makes sense.
Speaker 1: He's leaving one defender, he's running to that target defender
Speaker 1: and and you know, either drawing him in or showing
Speaker 1: a goa.
Speaker 3: And he's been doing a lot.
Speaker 1: I just for me, that's the best part of Nico's game,
Speaker 1: and he's doing a lot of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. He's scored thirty points in the weekend.
Speaker 2: Two tries, eleven conversions. There's three games that Nico should
Speaker 2: go back and watch. That one on the weekend.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: There was an All Stars game where he played really well.
Speaker 2: And there was a game in the preseason that I thought,
Speaker 2: you know what, Nico set for a big year, not
Speaker 2: because he was running around teams, not because he was
Speaker 2: setting up five tries. Because every time he ran the ball,
Speaker 2: his hips were north south.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What I mean by that he wasn't drifting overs. He
Speaker 2: was going forward first and his intent was I'm going
Speaker 2: to run. Then if the defense opens up, he keeps going.
Speaker 2: But if it closes, then he steps left to right.
Speaker 2: It becomes a ballplayer. Those are the things. When Nico
Speaker 2: plays well, he is north south in the direction he
Speaker 2: runs first, as opposed to trying to create something on
Speaker 2: the outside.
Speaker 1: Coops, it's good to be back, and we welcome the
Speaker 1: ratings back as well, and thank you very much.
Speaker 4: There was a definite spike in the ratings without you.
Speaker 3: It was I've been talking a lot as soon as.
Speaker 2: People turn on the TV and see that head with that.
Speaker 1: Haircut, Coops, I'm telling you now, I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of feedback from the fans, and the show was going
Speaker 1: sound
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