WEBVTT - Matty And Cronk Origin Series and Round 19 Takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>Well, coups on back, mate, that's been Where have you

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<v Speaker 1>been Washington? P and G and a terrible bout of

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<v Speaker 1>influenza and you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back with a terrible haircut on the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me well, then those drone shots in P and

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<v Speaker 3>G where it's happy with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked and I just went, Jesus, the boys might

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<v Speaker 1>have a point. But it will happen, mate, I'm too coop.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll happen. Don't worry. I mean not that long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually considering getting a perm at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>And then suddenly what happens is it just starts. You

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<v Speaker 1>start to see little things happen.

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<v Speaker 4>So you you're trying to grow new hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you get rid of my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>She started buying all these concoctions, but it was doing nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll happen, mate, You'll be and I guarantee you.

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<v Speaker 1>You give you one of those blokes that's got one

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<v Speaker 1>hair and you'll just you'll put it around like a turban.

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<v Speaker 1>And every time the Norris change happened, I'll be just

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<v Speaker 1>this one here, just.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a lassu.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the last three shows, you haven't been here to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the highest rating, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Continue it's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue bullshit a state of origin, big big difference, Coops.

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<v Speaker 3>From your angle, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's almost like criticism sharpens the sword for New

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<v Speaker 2>South Wales and praise just softens the mindset slightly. And

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<v Speaker 2>in origin decider like if you just get a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of difference of what you've done for two games previous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think New South Wales played the way that we

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<v Speaker 2>probably all expected them to play throughout the series. They

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<v Speaker 2>got it done in the biggest moment, I thought, clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously great painhas terrific. The back roll is just annoyed

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<v Speaker 2>the New Queensland halves, and there's just a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>errors at Queensland that just cost them big time. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you give a bit like Game one, New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales had all those errors to.

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<v Speaker 4>Start the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland dominated field positions called points and New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>did exactly the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought. I thought New South bal was really simplified.

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<v Speaker 3>They were attack to Coops, I thought, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, and I reckon, we see that the player that

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<v Speaker 1>I think symbolizes that most was Nathan, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>Coops you were Nathan very very similar players, and Nathan

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<v Speaker 1>plays in a system like your Melbourne system at Penrith

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<v Speaker 1>at club Land, which is very complex.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a complex system.

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<v Speaker 1>There's you know, the players are like pawns. Everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>in their exact right spot, hitting the gap at the

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<v Speaker 1>right point. It's very hard and that but that and

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<v Speaker 1>that type of system let people don't takes you a

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<v Speaker 1>long while to master.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a couple of moments to me early

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<v Speaker 2>on that said Nathan was in for a big game.

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<v Speaker 2>When we ran out in the field, like he smiled,

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<v Speaker 2>he looked like he was just dialed in and nothing

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<v Speaker 2>was going to phase him. And there was a state

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<v Speaker 2>when he scored that first try that was a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>That was statement that New South Wales's best player is

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<v Speaker 2>on in Queensland. You're going to have to go up

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<v Speaker 2>another couple of gears to stop him.

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<v Speaker 1>The similarities between you and you and Nathan, I see

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<v Speaker 1>that through the difficulty in the past that Nathan and

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<v Speaker 1>Teddy have had trying to form combination. I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>first half of the year you guys played together. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like you were playing one style of football, he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to play the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually he's got it right. And as far as.

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<v Speaker 1>That relationship in this game, you know, we're playmakers and

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<v Speaker 1>we have a playmaker bias. So I was always like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, Teddy, you've got to bend and Nathan, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to play Nathan ball. On the other night, Nathan

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<v Speaker 1>played more Teddy ball. It was like straight a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of direct running.

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<v Speaker 2>To talk about the system, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter what system you're in place.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a spine.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as you get a quick play the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>play north South, not east west. Take him on early

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<v Speaker 2>and just react to quick momentum. I thought Payton Hass

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<v Speaker 2>was brilliant, but it was just a big epic context

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<v Speaker 2>like how good is origin as a decider. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>miss football at all. But I'll tell you what, when

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<v Speaker 2>the game kicked off, that's the type of game you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to be involved.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look the Blues tries coops you said about

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<v Speaker 1>playing North South, just about all New South Wales tries.

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas the result of.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing through Coinsland, it's very different to the first couple

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<v Speaker 1>of games.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I mean he's one right foot.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a halfbacks stream to start the game.

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<v Speaker 3>It is close.

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<v Speaker 2>The line back roll comes off, sideways, run forward, beat them,

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<v Speaker 2>score and that just set the time like annoying months

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<v Speaker 2>to dear Lean Martin and clear is just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the beneficiuy of some pretty good interchange of passing. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was a great start from New South Wales. Powerful

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought Reuben Cotton made an error. It was

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<v Speaker 2>almost like which team blink first, kind of made that

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<v Speaker 2>era at New South Wales scored two tries.

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<v Speaker 4>That was pretty soft, but that was the difference at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the beginning of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Quickly it's talking. I mean a lot's been said about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was there's no doubt like when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>there was that angle where you could see it Flicky's

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<v Speaker 1>fingers and they said, oh, but the other angle it

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<v Speaker 1>went and you go, but hang on first angle the

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<v Speaker 1>seats it touched off.

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<v Speaker 3>Three key moments we'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>My first key moment is that coops for the first

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the game, New South Wales were really under

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<v Speaker 1>the pump. I thought that Queensland were dominating yardage that

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<v Speaker 1>looked very good. And then sometimes just the tiniest thing

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<v Speaker 1>will happen, just a little thing, just that little pebble

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<v Speaker 1>in the pond, and you see the residual.

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<v Speaker 3>Effect and it was Jack Bostov.

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<v Speaker 1>Bostock just accelerates between defenders here like that is really simple,

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<v Speaker 1>but okay, gets up, gets it six again and New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales could not get field positioned. Just that simple run,

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<v Speaker 1>that tiny little penetration there give him six more. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>New south Wales dominated yardage for the next for the

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<v Speaker 1>entire person.

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<v Speaker 2>If he doesn't bounce off his left and get through

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<v Speaker 2>to defenders, Nicker rag dolls him backwards. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 2>means they're what twenty meters off where the next play

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<v Speaker 2>the ball means means they're twenty meters further away from

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<v Speaker 2>the kick. One of the moments for me was Mitch

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<v Speaker 2>Moses kicking game just in general, like if there was

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<v Speaker 2>any field position or defensive lits win from Queensland, his

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<v Speaker 2>kick made it neutral.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was good play from Nathan just to say, hey, Mitch,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever inside forty you take care of it. Because he

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<v Speaker 2>was turning average sets into good sets, he was turning

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<v Speaker 2>bad sets into neutral sets.

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<v Speaker 4>He just kicked the absolute cover off the.

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<v Speaker 1>Football and it really helped Nathan out because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan has suffered from soft tissue injuries and I got

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt as a result of how much work.

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<v Speaker 3>He put to his long kicks and short kicks. The

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<v Speaker 3>alders to relieve.

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<v Speaker 1>Himself for that long kicking game and just focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the attacking kicks.

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<v Speaker 4>It's exactly how we thought would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>In Game two, we spoke about Mitch Moe's being the

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<v Speaker 2>five eight and just doing this like honestly, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>kicking a different football at times compared to Sam Walker

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<v Speaker 2>and Monster.

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<v Speaker 3>During this game, another moment for me was Stephen Crichton.

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<v Speaker 3>Stephen Crichton.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that defines to find the first

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<v Speaker 1>two games was the innability of New South Wales right

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<v Speaker 1>aage to control that favorite side with Nathan with Kaylyn

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<v Speaker 1>just wing into the left. Crichton coming to the side

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<v Speaker 1>was vital. There was a couple of defensive reads early

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<v Speaker 1>and I think gave confidence this one. He just backs

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit, you know, he doesn't commit himself

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<v Speaker 1>to a decision.

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<v Speaker 3>Up another one here out banged. Now these ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Really interesting good center defense. It was just the presence

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<v Speaker 1>of him here. There is genuine opportunity there. But you

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<v Speaker 1>see him just go up and that just spooked Monster again.

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<v Speaker 2>They are only little body movements, but that's elite defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Like those players at Queensland were thrown at him. That

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty good. Cap Well Pong Munthster in and around it,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had his head on a swivel and made

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<v Speaker 2>some good defensive played. That is Stephen Krichton at his best.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the best center in the world and defensively

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<v Speaker 2>it is hard to get past. He's had some issues,

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<v Speaker 2>but that game was a moment for me. I already

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<v Speaker 2>said it was the rubn coottter error to start with

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<v Speaker 2>in a big game. Origin decided these two teams were

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<v Speaker 2>ferocious at each other and it's almost like who is

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<v Speaker 2>the first team to blink? And Cotda is a beast,

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<v Speaker 2>Codda is a worker and as soon as he dropped

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<v Speaker 2>that ball, it was just a little win, a little

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<v Speaker 2>victory for New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that set the tide for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Kem Murray, there's another moment for me that Kem Murray try.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just evidence of how New South Wales was

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<v Speaker 1>winning the yardage game and how they're direct North South

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<v Speaker 1>type of football was working. I mean, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>Origin standards, I don't like the years that the word soft, but.

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<v Speaker 4>That is.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Phil Blake came onto the field started causing some

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<v Speaker 2>rough speed and the fact that is it Reuben Cottter

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<v Speaker 2>there just allowed space. Kem Murray has the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>move his body in a way that he can get

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<v Speaker 2>through gaps and a meter out for the line to

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<v Speaker 2>have Ruben Kotta just a meter off of space allowed

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<v Speaker 2>Murray to spin turn and get that ball down. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a big play actually, because it went from being

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<v Speaker 2>a competitive game on the school board like Queensland school one,

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<v Speaker 2>like they did before halftime, that one blew it out

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<v Speaker 2>to a dominant start.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep yeap.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly some of the key performances Paynt hass was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very rare that he doesn't have a dominant game.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was interesting about this one Laurie had him

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<v Speaker 1>operating wher in a wider field position to get at

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<v Speaker 1>the east defenders.

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<v Speaker 3>Haven't seen him use much like that before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, steamrolled Camera Munster a couple of times. He was enormous.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so good. Nathan gets a lot of apps.

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<v Speaker 2>But the couple of key performers for me is not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily the new South Wales halfback. It's this guy, but

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<v Speaker 2>that that's one of one with a monthster on the edge.

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<v Speaker 4>That is game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>And then funny coops like we look at tackle counts

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times aren't accurate. I think attempted tackles

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<v Speaker 1>should count because I mean, if you look at Pain

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<v Speaker 1>every time he takes the ball up, you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>basically until mostly he's got five guys attempting.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this, Sam Walker, like, can't get the body

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<v Speaker 2>in front. Quick play the ball, the damage is done.

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<v Speaker 2>Next look at this, Yeah, bump down the road, get down,

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<v Speaker 2>play the ball. So when Paine starts tackle two on

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Walker or Camera Munster, it might be a three

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<v Speaker 2>second player the ball, but the fact is the next

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<v Speaker 2>one's a three and a half second player. Then the

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<v Speaker 2>try scored on a four and our second play the

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<v Speaker 2>boo because Queensland defense cannot set so Sam and months

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<v Speaker 2>to make a tackle. But as you said, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>compound effect of that quick play the ball that paint

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<v Speaker 2>Us generates that ends up scoring a try at some stage.

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<v Speaker 3>And just rolling off that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to talk about Pain hats and that

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<v Speaker 1>combination working, then Adam Faniel Blake, paint comes goes off

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<v Speaker 1>the field, Adam comes on and we've been waiting. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting for Adam to play his best football

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<v Speaker 1>on that level because before the game, if you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me Payne Hasse and Adam fanil Blake are really dominant,

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<v Speaker 1>I just go, we're going to win it.

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<v Speaker 2>Laurie Daly got this change exactly right, brought him on

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<v Speaker 2>at exactly the right time. But credit to for noil Blake.

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<v Speaker 2>His first four or five charges were like that, that

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<v Speaker 2>is good sort of momentum, good statement.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he played well, like just there was just moments.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big body find the front, fighting through ageinst

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<v Speaker 2>the offload. That's Adam fanil Blake at his best. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That late footwork is just so dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>You get big guys, you know where reached defenders and

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<v Speaker 1>you get big guys running at you and you can

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<v Speaker 1>handle them to a certain extent.

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<v Speaker 3>At times, but when they've got late footwork made, it

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<v Speaker 3>makes them so different. It's so difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>One the other key performers for me mate from a

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales point of view, the Hudson Young Leam Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>They were annoying physical presence. There was a Hudson Young

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<v Speaker 2>gave Way penalty on Sam Walker which ultimately was a penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't mind it because he's making a young

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<v Speaker 2>halfback realize that I'm about to know the hell out

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<v Speaker 2>of you for the next eighty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>They came as advertised and that both of them came out.

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<v Speaker 1>They did, and just so we're going to go. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go like and that was instructed, no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>from Laurie to say, mate, come on, let's put this

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<v Speaker 1>guy on notice.

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<v Speaker 2>Take some kahounas to say that during the week and

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<v Speaker 2>then go and deliver. We've seen a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>say things during the week like they're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>a big game, but then not back it up. HUDs

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<v Speaker 2>and Young was great. Leam Martin's defense. He's intimidating as

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<v Speaker 2>anyone in the competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, some of that shots he put on the times

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<v Speaker 1>and like you said before, I once go far to

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<v Speaker 1>say as so far to say, as you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in Monster's head all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's just irritating.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not it's just a good battle.

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<v Speaker 2>But you could highlight clips and say months want of

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<v Speaker 2>victory there, Lean Martin's won a victory there.

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<v Speaker 4>But he is just he is just a He is

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<v Speaker 4>a rep player through and through Lear Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see him in the sheds a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, had him in the sheds. He was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the breathing exercise and it was just evidence of how

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<v Speaker 1>he gets himself up emotionally well.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows he needs to.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a guy that's the lead, that knows where he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be at and if he's redlining too much,

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<v Speaker 2>he probably gives away a penalty here there, it costs

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<v Speaker 2>his team. So those type of exercises, not only Martin,

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<v Speaker 2>every player in the competition is doing it to try

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<v Speaker 2>and get themselves in the perfect state to go and perform.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was brilliant like that is a type of

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<v Speaker 2>performance that has Lia Martin picked in every New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales team from here on out.

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<v Speaker 3>We spoke on Mitch most as four coups and you

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<v Speaker 3>got to give Laurier Rappi. He took some.

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<v Speaker 1>He took some big gambles as far as selections, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as not so much changing the team but keeping

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<v Speaker 1>some of the guys in. There was the Tedesco situation

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought he was under threat from Dylan Edwards.

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<v Speaker 3>Moses is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Big one because that second game he struggled in that

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<v Speaker 1>second game, but more than that that the follow up

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<v Speaker 1>performance against Sow Sitting in that Friday night game, it

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<v Speaker 1>was as bad as you see Mitchell play, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He looked out of sorts. He looked a long way

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<v Speaker 3>from fit.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Lori again, and I said, picking Mitchell, did

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<v Speaker 1>you have a conversation with Mitchell before Game three?

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<v Speaker 3>And did you consult Nathan? And he said no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I picked him in game two even though

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<v Speaker 1>I knew he was one hundred percent fit with Game

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<v Speaker 1>three in mind, because you want there one nil up

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<v Speaker 1>in the series.

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<v Speaker 3>He knew how Portny was going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, if I knew I picked him in game two,

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<v Speaker 1>he might have been a little bit off, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was backing to be right for game three.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like for every rat that Billy got last year,

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<v Speaker 2>for what dropping Cherry Evans bringing in did and ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>won the series, Laurie deserves exactly the same credit because

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<v Speaker 2>that was a balancing Do you bring Ethan Strange in?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you stick with Moses?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to give mos a big rap here

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<v Speaker 2>for a guy that has confidence, likes to be the

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<v Speaker 2>main man. He realized that Nathan was on scored the

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<v Speaker 2>first two tries.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's Mitch to, I'm going to kick us to

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<v Speaker 4>victory here.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time we're in a bad spot, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the guy that kicks at sixty on the fly

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to start winning this battle because winning

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<v Speaker 2>for New South Wales is way more important than someone

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<v Speaker 2>being the big dog on the night. So he definitely

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<v Speaker 2>played second field. But it was a class act performance

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<v Speaker 2>from Mitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's as we look at Nathan Cleary's all these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of quality touches and touches throughout the discussion about him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there were two types of commentary going into

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and I thought both were inaccurate in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one was, oh, Nathan made if he does

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<v Speaker 1>name up here, he's never going to be remember it

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<v Speaker 1>as a great origin player and.

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<v Speaker 3>Spot might be that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>To the other one, that was wrong too, mate, Nathan's

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<v Speaker 1>got nothing to prove, He's got nothing to prove gun

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of origent. I thought that one was

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<v Speaker 1>wrong as well, wrong right, mate, And what he did,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything he had to you could see he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to prove it to himself that he could take his domination,

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<v Speaker 1>which he does at club level at Penrith and do

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<v Speaker 1>it at State of Origin level.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think could play a couple of poor Origin

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<v Speaker 2>series and I still believe he's one of the greats,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he is a freak of nage. The way that

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<v Speaker 2>he's been able to develop his career control some really

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant moments. And the one thing for me that worried

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<v Speaker 2>me during the week and the lead up was him

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<v Speaker 2>owning a performance, owning a bad performance when an elite

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<v Speaker 2>player can sit there and go, you know what, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't good. I didn't deliver on x Onye and Z,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to work on that and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver in the next one. That is the sign

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<v Speaker 2>of a gunplayer. And you just know the way that

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan plays that two bad performances are never consecutive. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a big gap between a bad performance and his

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<v Speaker 2>next one. It just happened to be an Origin decider

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<v Speaker 2>and Queensland with a victim of his performance and will.

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<v Speaker 3>Done to Isaiah Ah two. He was captain of the series.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a lot of great leadership going into game three.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought a lot of people thought that'd

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<v Speaker 1>start with Murray, but Laurie stuck with his skipper there.

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<v Speaker 3>So made he was terrific. And coming out of that series.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at, you know, Penrith in the last month,

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<v Speaker 1>during the origin period, there has been a lot of distractions.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a roller coach for those players.

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<v Speaker 1>But coming out of that series, the way the Penrith

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<v Speaker 1>players performed, you just got made. They're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of stopping three players coops you thought, and

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<v Speaker 1>enhanced their reputation.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Walker, yeah, definitely elevated himself from a potential REP

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<v Speaker 2>player to a REP player, but Game three knocked him

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<v Speaker 2>back a little bit and Nathan went to another level.

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<v Speaker 4>He needs a final way to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan's level went on the back foote.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, yeah, big time.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was Queensland's best player across the series.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're give in Queensland's best player, that was Selwyn

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<v Speaker 2>and Hudson Young before the game. Hudson before Game one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson would have been if he plays while he's in

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<v Speaker 2>the side, but if he doesn't, maybe Ola Kawa t

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<v Speaker 2>Martin fits in. His performance consistently and particularly Game three,

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<v Speaker 2>he's now elevated to He was probably already elite, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's very much intrenched into elite status.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you, Sam Walker, it was an obvious one.

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<v Speaker 3>Saw and Cobo as well. I also had Bradman best

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<v Speaker 3>down there.

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, we underestimate him, Like whenever you think, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going who we're going to pick and you go

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Crichton, Latrelle and have all these other guys. Bradman

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<v Speaker 1>gets forgotten to a certain extent, but he always aims up.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other one I've got is Max Plath. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought Max was just fantastic through that series.

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<v Speaker 4>Something about Bradman.

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<v Speaker 2>He just likes the big stage right, like at Newcastle

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<v Speaker 2>on a Sunday afternoon. Sometimes he comes up with some

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<v Speaker 2>poor decisions defensively, but Jesus he's got it right. Particularly

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<v Speaker 2>if you can get it right at an origin decide

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<v Speaker 2>at suncle can play well, you can get it right anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Coops club Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Firstly, Draaan Leua the Leuis situation been released from his

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<v Speaker 1>final year the contract before he joins P and G.

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<v Speaker 3>Has it surprised you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>It has.

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<v Speaker 2>Him probably taking up that option and going didn't. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Tiger's moving him on is a surprise. There's something

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<v Speaker 2>something shifted at the Tigers, because you go to the

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<v Speaker 2>first third of the year, they were playing pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>and probably finals bound.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, yeah, it was on the horizon. There's something

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<v Speaker 4>that has shifted.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like I looked at them coops, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, mate, the way the game has evolved in

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<v Speaker 1>the last eight of the months really suits their football.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think like when they played well in the first third,

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<v Speaker 2>it was almost like the arrogance in a good way,

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<v Speaker 2>confidence that we can play and no one could beat

0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.000
<v Speaker 2>his type. Thing like Benji had that as a player,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was Loui's got that as a player. It

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<v Speaker 2>started feeding through the to the to the Maze and

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.359
<v Speaker 2>the Feinus and all the rest of them. But then

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 2>it hit the skids six weeks ago. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>like a brotherhood at the Tigers that was building. It

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.800
<v Speaker 2>feels like the Louis departure. Maybe it's p Andng, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's not. I just don't know what to make of it.

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.159
<v Speaker 2>I would have kept Loui. I'm Benjing the Tigers. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have kept him the guys one Grand Finals. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy's played our You can get information and learnings for

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<v Speaker 2>those next gen.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have kept him around for twelve months.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that you can free up money and provide

0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.479
<v Speaker 2>for those other players, but I think those other players

0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.359
<v Speaker 2>that you want to upgrade are going to be better

0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:50.160
<v Speaker 2>with the example of Jerome around.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree, and we'll get to Paramatta on that

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. But it's a really complex question. Buying

0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Lui hasn't been a success. Well, if you look as

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<v Speaker 1>far as results concern play finals football, it hasn't. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think as far as changing the perception of the

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 1>club and helping sign others, it has been.

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.639
<v Speaker 2>The players have resigned and recommitted and come to the

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Tigers because of Jerome and the way they're playing, particularly

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.840
<v Speaker 2>in the first third. That's why I I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I would have let him go. Like, if you're Jerome

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<v Speaker 2>now you've got this big paypacket coming for P and G.

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.119
<v Speaker 4>You've got twelve months, what am I gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Paramatta is there, Yes he'll get some big money

0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:36.480
<v Speaker 2>thrown out, But going home to Penrith is not a

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.240
<v Speaker 2>bad idea. I'm going to put myself in his shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going back to Penrith. You know why, because P

0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and G I'm gonna earn a.

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Lot of money.

0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna have to build a club before I

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<v Speaker 2>start winning more games and lose.

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:48.680
<v Speaker 4>And Penrith is home.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost just going back and putting your comfy clothes

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<v Speaker 2>on and getting back some familiar relationships winning games. And

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<v Speaker 2>he could actually probably be a better play by when

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<v Speaker 2>he goes to P and G going to Penrith with

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger's going to top up some of his money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's going to go for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But if I'm Jerome, I'm going back to.

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<v Speaker 3>This is It's a really interesting one because.

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<v Speaker 1>At what point, at what point does to do the

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<v Speaker 1>Tigers maybe say, hang on a second, we're not being

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<v Speaker 1>offered enough money here. I mean, the last thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Tigers want to be doing throwing six hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got them, can't You cannot do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So if Paramatter or the Penorists or the Perth Bears

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<v Speaker 1>don't come to the party, it could be a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where you say, guys, I mean, it's untenable really to say,

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<v Speaker 1>actually we've changing your mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're going to side. We're going to keep you

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<v Speaker 3>for that last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you would think that negotiation is a

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<v Speaker 1>fair way down the line, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they are one year at Paramatta. They did it with Jonah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's more value in one year with Jerome

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<v Speaker 1>all the things we're talking about, as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>helping the younger players.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Ryles, obviously like they need elite players and Jerome

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<v Speaker 2>fits that Moses and Jerome have played together before. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm Jerome, I've got a huge paypacker coming. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm going home to Penrith.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Daniel two Po three hundred games you played alongside him.

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<v Speaker 3>I say it on the show last night. I'd realized

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<v Speaker 3>sort of at the end of the game, when you

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<v Speaker 3>know everything was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard Daniel two Per talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I never have.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been in such a long time. But he's so

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<v Speaker 1>shy and humble. I've never ever heard him interviewed.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't hear him, but you see him both on

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<v Speaker 2>and off the field. Right, you won't call a play

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<v Speaker 2>playing with him, But I'll tell you what, when you

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<v Speaker 2>need someone to turn up, he'll do it. He'll take

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<v Speaker 2>that yardage carry, he'll score that try. Game three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>scored three tries. The funny thing is, like he's third

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<v Speaker 2>on the all time try list. Right, you got Ken

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<v Speaker 2>Irvine and Alex Johnston in front, who.

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<v Speaker 4>Are out and outstars.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's an argument to say that Tupo's a better

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<v Speaker 2>winger overall than those two because he's got just as

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<v Speaker 2>many tries. But for the runs and the meters and

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<v Speaker 2>the tough carries, Tubo smashes them in terms of stats,

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<v Speaker 2>So he should He's probably not in the conversation for

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<v Speaker 2>best winger, but he should be in the conversation one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best wingers this game is ever.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those guys easy to underestimate for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he a good fella, terrific fella, You wouldn't mind him.

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew is a bit of an undercover brother, so one

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<v Speaker 2>of the boys that likes to be shy, but when

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<v Speaker 2>he lets Lucy's a good man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's good. I like that. I really like that.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're not undercover, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I just with that air, you can't go anywhere an

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<v Speaker 3>open book. Shark sixty six nil.

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<v Speaker 4>Seriously, how.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we've spoken in.

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<v Speaker 1>The last couple of months in around the Dolphins when

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<v Speaker 1>a game winning streak, and we're going this is it teems

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<v Speaker 1>that can win the competition.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to think.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you can't ignore that, but you can't ignore the

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<v Speaker 1>eight game winning streak either. I mean, yes, they had

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<v Speaker 1>some key men out. I understand all that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, weeks before that key man out and Scratch Claude

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<v Speaker 2>Fort never gave up their goal line like they did.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to be an Origin player to tackle

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<v Speaker 2>and work hard. And the fact is that those sixty

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<v Speaker 2>odd points that Sharks scored, the players of the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>defensively didn't stand up for Christian Will's fundamentals.

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<v Speaker 4>Defensively. That's a worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can bring Izy car Tar and all those

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<v Speaker 2>rep players back in and yeah, that school line doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is a systematic flawed defensively from the players

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<v Speaker 2>outside the best to the next crop that just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get it right.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not giving the Sharks enough credit. Nico Hines

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<v Speaker 1>has been really good the last couple of weeks. What

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<v Speaker 1>I like about Niko's game, the last couple of performances

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<v Speaker 1>in your seat here, we always said Nico made he

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<v Speaker 1>plays his best when runs the football, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>can't run the football blindly. What I like it about it,

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<v Speaker 1>He's running the football, but he's got he's got.

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<v Speaker 3>An outcome in mind. It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>He's leaving one defender, he's running to that target defender

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know, either drawing him in or showing

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<v Speaker 1>a goa.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's been doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I just for me, that's the best part of Nico's game,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's doing a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he is. He's scored thirty points in the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Two tries, eleven conversions. There's three games that Nico should

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<v Speaker 2>go back and watch. That one on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an All Stars game where he played really well.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a game in the preseason that I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, Nico set for a big year, not

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<v Speaker 2>because he was running around teams, not because he was

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<v Speaker 2>setting up five tries. Because every time he ran the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>his hips were north south.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean by that he wasn't drifting overs. He

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<v Speaker 2>was going forward first and his intent was I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to run. Then if the defense opens up, he keeps going.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it closes, then he steps left to right.

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<v Speaker 2>It becomes a ballplayer. Those are the things. When Nico

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<v Speaker 2>plays well, he is north south in the direction he

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<v Speaker 2>runs first, as opposed to trying to create something on

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<v Speaker 2>the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Coops, it's good to be back, and we welcome the

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<v Speaker 1>ratings back as well, and thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a definite spike in the ratings without you.

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<v Speaker 3>It was I've been talking a lot as soon as.

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<v Speaker 2>People turn on the TV and see that head with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Haircut, Coops, I'm telling you now, I've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of feedback from the fans, and the show was going

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<v Speaker 1>sound

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<v Speaker 2>H