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Speaker 1: But what if when you get that feeling, you can't

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Speaker 1: Phil Jamison. He's the lead singer of Grinspoon, one of

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Speaker 1: Phil and Grinspoon are about to head out for a

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Speaker 1: This is better than yesterday, helping you make today better

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Speaker 2: Right, It is good, and I'm grateful to yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that tattoo.

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Speaker 2: No regrets.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do some regrets.

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Speaker 2: Imber showing you it's tattoo. There's clothes now.

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Speaker 2: I can't I can't remember who were was?

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Speaker 3: What were you doing barefoot in the hopes and hotels?

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to show you my tale.

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Speaker 3: I didn't care about your tato when you did.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, but it's fun.

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Speaker 4: We're doing it on other people, no, no, just myself,

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Speaker 3: so we actually a lot of thought goes into the

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Speaker 3: touring and maybe the people, I hope people realize that it's.

439
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: Quite like to do forty five dates.

440
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: As you know, a band which doesn't travel light. That's

441
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: at least too higher cars at least and there's a lot.

442
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 2: Of hotel rooms.

443
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: That's not not something that bands really attempt too much.

444
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 2: Not in Australia, no anymore.

445
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 3: No, No, that happens in America a lot, but here

446
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: it's been a while since it's been done. We're playing

447
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: smaller venues. Parkway Drive did a ten year anniversary of

448
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 3: their debut, I believe, and did something similar and they

449
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 3: didn't have to do that, but they did because they

450
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 3: love it. And I saw them at the Garvins in

451
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 3: South Australia in Adelaide. That was sensational and it just

452
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: I think Polaris supported them. It was a great night

453
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: of really really great music and the spirit in that

454
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 3: room reminded me of while and and Green's playing the

455
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: Garb as well on this run. So we're going back

456
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: and doing stuff because we want to do it and

457
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: we love it.

458
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I look at my most steps

459
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: when she's twenty, right, and you mentioned, you know, during

460
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: the pandemic, she and her cohort never really went to gigs,

461
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Taylor Swift before that was probably the

462
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: first time someone had seen a band.

463
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Speaker 2: For a lot of people, yes, three hundred thousand.

464
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Speaker 1: Tickets old, I'd say at least two thirds of Then then

465
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: we'll be the first time that anyone ever seen a

466
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: band first constant and even people.

467
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: Who are like twenty yeah, probably never seen a gig.

468
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've been dragging my kids to kigs

469
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: since the kids. Yes, that's true, So yeah, I understand. Yeah,

470
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: Taylor was Taylor was good. I really enjoyed it.

471
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: Show, incredible show. So you're doing this thing where I

472
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: remember I used to be a roady.

473
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: It's such shit hearing, right, and there's venues, oh up

474
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: and down Australia.

475
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: Well they're not. The funny thing is they're not really.

476
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: So that's one of the challenging things about this. There

477
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 3: was venues, well they were venues, and now there's no

478
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: bands really too. So we're taking a truck in and

479
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: we're going to make the gig. So some of some

480
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 3: of them are venues, yes, some of them are, and

481
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: then some of them are a bowling club. But we're

482
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: going to go in there and grinspoonifi the fuck out.

483
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: Of that, right, So you're traveling with the whole thing.

484
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: We're traveling with the semi whoa, so you're not picking

485
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: up of you know, sir and Vega w bid in

486
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: which I.

487
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: Learned from the last tour which we did did finished

488
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: in December where it was a fly to it and

489
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 3: stuff didn't show up for Adelaide, and I'm like, you know,

490
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: I've really taken a lot of care into production. Is

491
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: that what we're doing on this show? I mean, it's

492
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: it's it's it's measured, but where we can, we can

493
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: push out as much as we can. So yes, it's

494
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 3: everything sem me up until Darwin and then we were

495
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: flying to Darwin. But but yeah, it's great to be

496
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: able to go to a gig or go to a

497
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: town where I haven't seen a gig and we're going

498
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: to go. This is this is how we do it.

499
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: There was a thing when you were part of a

500
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: few of these shows when we do that Channel V

501
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: thing and we're on the back of the truck and

502
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: we're out in the fields, people like.

503
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: What, Yeah, that was fun.

504
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: Fuck, this is great. That really it is it?

505
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: And so there's I wonder what will happen, because there'd

506
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: be people that have never stood in a pub and

507
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: had a stranger's beers billed on them. And it's not

508
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: because they want to start a fight. They're just dancing

509
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: and that's fine.

510
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty d B. It's going to be good.

511
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can. It's your pa.

512
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: So there's Nick Kelse, which exactly it's the kill switch

513
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: that yoused to always get us. And that's wild, you know,

514
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: to have this moment. And I remember like thinking that

515
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: g she started to see bands more, she going on

516
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: festival stuff, that when she was like eighteen nineteen, she

517
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't have that experience of like being rando into a

518
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: room that all the strangers, but they look different, they

519
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: sound different, they wearing different clothes, but they all know

520
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: the words to your favorite song.

521
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

522
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: So there's something similar about you. Isn't that nice?

523
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. That's that's why, that's why we're doing it.

524
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: It's the beauty of it. And also we're trying to

525
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: do with the other thing that I tried to stress

526
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 3: with agency and management is that I want to do

527
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 3: as many all ages or have the access if parents

528
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: want to bring their kids if possible, So some of

529
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: the venues we're playing aren't the most salubrious, but you can,

530
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: if you're a guardian, you can you have the ability

531
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: to bring your child, which I think is really important,

532
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: just the option at least gig giving people.

533
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Like a mezzanine or something like that, but something.

534
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: But unfortunately in Victoria, it's just impossible. You have to

535
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: do specific all ages shows of Victoria's just so that's

536
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 3: one of the things. I'm just trying to maybe do.

537
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: A surprise kicking Victoria.

538
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: But that's keeping to the ground, not announced yet because

539
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: I weirdly the age that I'm at its forty seven,

540
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: and a lot of people that like our band are

541
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 3: my age or younger older but they are a lot

542
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: of that kids now. So hence the Wednesday night babysitter,

543
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: thinking well we'll just bring the kids.

544
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: Then yeah, I'll tell you really want to make make

545
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: like shows at seven, don't come late.

546
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: There's no support we're on at seven.

547
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: Well, we're only taking for those Wednesday shows that we're

548
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: having Press Club, We're only having one support. They're doing

549
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 3: the whole tour with us, who are absolutely sensational. So

550
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: we will be an earlier night. Like we're doing the

551
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: Metro Theater in Sydney, which we haven't done for twenty years,

552
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 3: and it's a Tuesday, so yes, it'll only be there,

553
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 3: it'll be early. It's not going to be We're not

554
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 3: getting off stage at eleven thirty. No way, not on

555
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 3: a Tuesday. Man, I need to go a bit.

556
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: I know the guitar player from the Fangs, which is

557
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: a fun band, and he's doing a He's on stage

558
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: at one thirty at the Landsdown this weekend.

559
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: Like, it's not going to happen. I'm not going.

560
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: I mean the Crash and Burn where we played it

561
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 3: was a one am slot, I'm pretty certain. But we

562
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: were young and stupid.

563
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And there's a time in your life when

564
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: you want to you're out.

565
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: You can go out like that late.

566
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you're waking up at noon, which is fine.

567
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: It's yeah no, no, no, no.

568
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: Like if the issue is is housekeeping?

569
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: Nice dad? Can I watch poor Patry?

570
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: What fuck me? Housekeeping? Chris's already the lobby on a vake,

571
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: having a chicken roll and a strawberry milk. You beat

572
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 3: the VP, buddy, I'm like, yeah, all right, let's get

573
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 3: in the van.

574
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: What are the protocols. Every band's got their own touring protocol.

575
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: Do you have time limits when you stop if you're

576
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: stopping for gas, No.

577
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: There's no time, but there's the few unwritten laws. So

578
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 3: if lobby calls ten, if you're there at ten, you're late.

579
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: So you want to be at least ten minutes early

580
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: to lobby call. If you aren't there by ten, we

581
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: know you've slept in. So Chris is there at nine thirty.

582
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: So there's that. That's one of those rules. And then

583
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: usually the stops are we're pretty good at the stops

584
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: because actually we haven't done it for a long time

585
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 3: because we've been flying a lot. So yeah, I mean

586
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: we're not going to stop half for half an hour somewhere.

587
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: But it depends on the drive. Right, if it's eight hours,

588
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: we're going to need to stop. We're going to need

589
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: to refuel there. I know that's not that regimented, but yeah,

590
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: definitely getting in the van and getting on the road,

591
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: is the year have to be early?

592
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: Do you cast your tour manager? Really?

593
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Weirdly, there's not many that are really great at their jobs.

594
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: Sorry to a manager world, I'm sure there is. I

595
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: mean we have we've lucked out with Hoss, who's incredible,

596
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: he's fantastic, so and we've also had Yogi as well

597
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: do our tour managing, who's.

598
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: If you don't have a nickname, are you even a

599
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: tool man is.

600
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: On tour with Parkway Drive at the moment, Hi Yogi,

601
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: he's brilliant as well, who also works with Thanks and Julius.

602
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: So so weirdly, there's there's a small pool of tour

603
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: of tms that just get all the great gigs and

604
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: there's a reason they're the best, because they are the best.

605
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: For people that don't understand what a tool managers. And

606
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: I always find it such an extraordinary job.

607
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: And people think the band manager is the one that

608
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: makes the show happens, that the fucking the TM.

609
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Well yeah, the tour manager essentially for a younger band,

610
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: make sure that you know everyone is okay. What most

611
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: important thing for me is safety of the audience. So

612
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: Hoss will brief security because obviously we're going to Gladston

613
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: and Bunderberg and there'll be enthusiastic people, so security don't

614
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: get headstrong and start ripping people out if they go crazy.

615
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: And so make sure everyone has a good time. So

616
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: that's one of the things that really important to me

617
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: is if you pay your eighty dollars to come and

618
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: see us, that you're safe.

619
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: But number one.

620
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: But more than anything, he liaises with the venue and

621
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: with us, And yes, it takes a certain temperament. I

622
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: had a great tool manager, Greg Weaver, who passed away,

623
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: say lived very very tragically actually, but he would do

624
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: my He would do my laundry for me.

625
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty bad us.

626
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: I got very spoilt by Greg.

627
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, like next to.

628
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: Putting your pillow from home in a road case and

629
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: bringing it with them.

630
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen anymore. But also Yogi has this incredible

631
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: road case which is a wardrobe, which I love. So

632
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: at every gig it'll just be there. And so I

633
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: could just go, yes, here's my costume. We go on

634
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: and then take it off and go to the next gig.

635
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: So that's I might tap him on the I can't

636
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: take that roadcase for this too. But yeah, tour manager

637
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: is incredibly helpful. And for many years we use Anthony Patuccio,

638
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: who is a lighting guy who did everything he did.

639
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: He did lighting, he production managed, and he too managed.

640
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: It was a he had a long list of responsibilities.

641
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, the safety thing is really clearly very important

642
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: to you massively. You and I were we were on

643
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: that Big Day Out tour where Jessica.

644
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: You weren't olympuscuit. We we did the next year and

645
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: we did a tribute.

646
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: That's it was the year, that's right because I remember

647
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: standing in the crowd and instead of doing a minute

648
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: of silence, you did a minute of noise.

649
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is Chemical Heart. Yes, it was beautiful. We

650
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: did the we did the confetti cannons. It was parent

651
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: her parents were there. So the previous year in one

652
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: ship passed tragically and then the next day of the

653
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: Sydney Morning Herald had a photograph of her parents sitting

654
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: in the teenager's bed Jessica's bedroom and all over her

655
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: wall were posters of us. So she was a huge

656
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: Grinners fan. Pat and I played the.

657
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 7: Sorry it's hard when you become a parent, isn't It's worse,

658
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 7: It's way worse.

659
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: I haven't played the funeral, which was that was the time.

660
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: So yes, we were. We did the Big Out two

661
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: thousand and two, which is our second big day out,

662
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: and Chemical Heart and Lost Control had just come out

663
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: one of those moments in your career. Obviously, we were

664
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: hitting the radio. Rock thing had sort of worked out

665
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: for us. We'd done our Easy As, our second album,

666
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: full of fury and punk and anger, and then we'd

667
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: sort of refined all that down to New Detention, which

668
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: was our third record, and yeah, Jessica, Yeah, we did

669
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: that that two thousand and two Big Day Out, and

670
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: that's when we really became very, very close to the

671
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: bigd Out family. From then on, we were part of

672
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 3: We were part of their lives, Sahara and Can and

673
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: Vivian and jess and everyone that worked there in the

674
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: House of Hoax, the Wild Time, Marble Streets, sorry wild

675
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: wild Times.

676
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: But safety of gigs. I mean, I've you've been in

677
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: gigs as a punter. I'm sure things have been sketchy.

678
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't love it. I don't love it.

679
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: I mean also, I never liked crowdsurfing either, even when

680
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: I was going well, I went to Big Dad as

681
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: a young kid. I never it was just really annoying,

682
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: like just stop at But I like jumping together and

683
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: I like dancing, and yeah, I don't mind big any

684
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: spil on me. So I'm a punter. I got lots

685
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: of gigs. I think it's unfair for me to go

686
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: and do forty five shows without going to forty five years.

687
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: So I tried it.

688
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes in Melbourne, I'll see three at night, you know,

689
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: I just bound lot just go this as many so

690
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: because I love seeing because weirdly you can learn a

691
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: lot what not to do and what to do and

692
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: how people aiming for a mammal and Sniffers does this

693
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: really great spill at the start of every show about

694
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: being safe. What's she say, b big kind, lookout for

695
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: one another, Let's have fun, something along those lines. I'm paraphrasing,

696
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: but she says it really early. So it's the statement

697
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: of fact, is there. But yeah, going to these gigs

698
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: where you've mentioned that people haven't seen this before and yeah,

699
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: it's just really important to me that everyone has a

700
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: good time. So don't come to any fucking shows and

701
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: big dickheads.

702
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: No, no, there's no time for that. Amial and the

703
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: Sniffers are one of the more exciting bands.

704
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: They're really fun.

705
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: They're very, very fun, really very excited to see what

706
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: they're doing.

707
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: They're really great. Well, Nick Launey's on the new record,

708
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: so it's going to have home. It's very very good.

709
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: So you'll notice little flourishes on that new song with

710
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: the little cow bells and little elements of percussion that

711
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: mightn't have popped up in previous recordings. And it just

712
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: sounds very, very very good. Not saying that Dan Luskin

713
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: didn't do an incredible job on the previous record, but

714
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: there's a certain element of nick. You can just see

715
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: little sprinklings of producer genius. But yeah, really really exciting.

716
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: They're really politically and morally ethically, they hit everything.

717
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: They're really having a band with a message is something

718
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: that grinspin of Bean sometimes.

719
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes, I mean, I'm more about ambiguity than anything else.

720
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: I'd really dislike it, Like what's this song about? I'm like,

721
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: you figure it out. But yeah, we're not John Butler

722
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: and we're not in the Loyal But yeah, I've had

723
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: a lot of fun confusing.

724
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: People telling straight lies. What is making up?

725
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: What songs are about? Yeah, it's just really fun.

726
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: What's alike when you see people singing lyrics back that

727
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: means something to you and clearly you can see in

728
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: their eyes or something going on.

729
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't really think about h that's a nice

730
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 3: that's nice, that's really nice. Yeah, I didn't. I haven't

731
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: really thought about that, actually, but that's obviously one of

732
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: the perks of the gig, getting people singing along.

733
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: There must be something that you get out of You

734
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: mentioned that success, physical success, financial success wasn't really a

735
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: part of the metric that you measure things on. Is

736
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: there a feeling that you get when you're like, ah,

737
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: me and the crowd, where heat to not where together

738
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: we met each other?

739
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Ah?

740
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting question, but it's unfortunately I don't

741
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: know how to calculate it. So sometimes it works. Sometimes

742
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: it's perfect. Sometimes I'll walk off stage and think it

743
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: was great and it wasn't. And sometimes I think it

744
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 3: was terrible and people say that was amazing. So I

745
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: never can There's there's this that you just got to

746
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: let the magic happen. We are just but dust in

747
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: the wind, and so I sometimes the dust happens, sometimes

748
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: it doesn't. There was a show at the Forum last

749
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: year which was really really, really good, and I didn't

750
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 3: think it was that great, but everyone's like that was amazing.

751
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: So sometimes I don't talk it all. Sometimes I talk

752
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 3: a lot Sometimes I say nothing. Sometimes I do anecdotes,

753
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: sometimes I don't. I'm very much not a scripted type

754
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: of personality when it comes to the gigs. But yeah,

755
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: obviously when it works, often I don't realize it. That's

756
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: how in chin I am. So sometimes when it's absolutely popping,

757
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: I'll be like, is this any good?

758
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

759
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't even think it was a single man,

760
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: so what do I know. I was like, yeah, sure,

761
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, it's good. I'm like, okay, so yeah,

762
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: my radar or antenna is just a little bit. It's

763
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 3: maybe not as.

764
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Switched on as but people think taking a quick break

765
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: there from Phil from Greensburn, we're going to play some

766
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: ads back in a second. Any long term relationship requires compromise, yes,

767
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: and look, it can be helpful if in that long

768
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: term relationship as a way of you know, particularly when

769
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: I think about, for example, my marriage, sometimes kisses and

770
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: cuddles can make things better, even when I've been an idiot.

771
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: You can't really do that with the boys in the

772
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: band when it comes to conflict resolution. And we've all

773
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: seen Some Kind of Monster, which is one of the

774
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: most hilarious films ever, The Metallic How do you get

775
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: about navigating conflict resolution within a group of guys you've

776
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: known for twenty nearly thirty years.

777
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: A very very good question and one that is not

778
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: a simple answer. I'm going to So recently we obviously

779
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: we did a creative project, which is the new record

780
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: whatever whatever out August nine, and that was a creative

781
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: collaborative thing, which is tricky between four of us, so

782
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: there would be conflict in relation to that, and how

783
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: to resolve. The way we structured that record was to compromise,

784
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: and so the compromise came from Joe who was like,

785
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: instead of bickering, let's try to do it this way.

786
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: And that worked and it was not giving her too

787
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: many secrets, but he came with a very level plan

788
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: that took out Hubris and made it clear. So I

789
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: think the best way to do it is to sort

790
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: of put park your ego firstly, and then trying to

791
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: make everyone happy is impossible. So what do you mean?

792
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: It's a Tuesday exactly forty five shows, So with difficulty

793
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: in finesse is conflict resolution. Luckily we don't like now

794
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: the record's done, there's not a huge amount of conflict

795
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: and everyone the touring part we're good at in theory,

796
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: so once everyone gets there, everyone will do their job

797
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: and everyone knows what they're doing.

798
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: But it would be impossible to think that you're in

799
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: this relationship for this long and they're not be friction.

800
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: No, we're good now, we're actually yeah. I mean it's

801
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: nice to be able to do. I think coming back

802
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: after in twenty seventeen and realizing the affectation people had

803
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: for the band, it's very warming. So it made us

804
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: value it probably a bit more right, you know, we

805
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 3: actually gave it a little more. It became much more

806
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: meaningful from twenty seventeen on, and I was like, oh,

807
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 3: this is this is important.

808
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I quote your documentary title to people all

809
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: the time. When they asked me about they're like, oh,

810
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: we never knew that shit was going on with here.

811
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but you only ever saw me when

812
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: I was doing the thing that I love to do,

813
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: and I was in the fucking moment and it was great.

814
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: It's like as if you see aria Ariana Tipmos walking,

815
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: You're like, holy shit, she walks because you've only ever

816
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: seen a swim right, And I would say the thing

817
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 1: the show part was fine. It's the twenty three hours

818
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: waiting around. That's where the danger and the dumb ideas

819
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: and the silliness.

820
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: There's the show business, isn't it. Yeah, that's that's part

821
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: of the travel and the hurry up and wait and

822
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. Unfortunately, one of my more negative

823
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: traits is that I'm very impatient. But I'm getting.

824
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: Better action oriented. That's what I was. Action action oriented.

825
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 3: You've got to, especially with any sort of public transport

826
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: or travel, you've got to be really really patient and

827
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: treat people well. I see too often in airports and

828
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: people be really rude. So I'm trying to kill people

829
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: with kindness.

830
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: When you are about to very deliberately embark on that

831
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: twenty three hours of waiting around. Is that part of

832
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: you that's like, oh, here we go.

833
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I feel my days now? Yeah? Yeah, So you know,

834
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: there's the routine I have at home is now pretty

835
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: important to me. So there's a certain routine and structure

836
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: that I will try to take on the road. It

837
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: won't always work, but yeah, there'll be you know that,

838
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: There'll be the coffee, there'll be the exercise, that'll be this,

839
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 3: they'll be that, that'll be this. You know, so I

840
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: think as long as there'll be laundry, they'll be that.

841
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: They'll be that, so you don't.

842
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: I don't my laundry. But also I think we never

843
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: used to sound check this band because sound check, but

844
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: now we love soundcheck, so we go and that's part

845
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: of the big part of our job is the preparation.

846
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 3: Sound Check's the fun part is like a gig for yourself. Right,

847
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: if I was boozing it there we were, I have

848
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: a beer because it'd be like, oh, this is great,

849
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 3: Like listen, you guys are awesome. This is me with

850
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm a sick band. Nobody else is here.

851
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 5: Give me a fire X.

852
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a really fun time because it's just us

853
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: and we're making it sound good. We're actually caring, putting

854
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: in the works to make sure when people walk in

855
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: the door it's one twenty dB. So so the days

856
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: the twenty three at three hours, Yes, sure there is that.

857
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: There's actually ninety minute sets now, I think, but there

858
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: is one once we get to the four pm soundchick time.

859
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: It's great.

860
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, right, you mentioned exercise. What works for you?

861
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: I love I'm really bad at it, but I do

862
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 3: like tennis and I'm not very competitive, so that's quite

863
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 3: annoying to people playing me often just do big lobs

864
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: and I make the sound really annoys people. And then

865
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: I'm really good at the dropshots, so I'll just love that.

866
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 3: I'll drop it. This goes o that long in the point.

867
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 3: So I play tennis like I re live my life.

868
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: It's a great metaphor.

869
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: Man, pretty good, and then I'll be doing some weird

870
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: circuit training at the gym, which is fun box jumps

871
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: and silliness, and then it's the walk or here or

872
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: there if I can. I gave cycling a bit of

873
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: a go, but yeah, it just when you're on the road,

874
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: it'll change because it will be. But yeah, I'm I

875
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: think that now that we're at this age is obviously

876
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: strength and stuff is important. I think weirdly, it's funny

877
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: in my twenties, where I had much more capacity to

878
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: be fit and healthy, I was completely fucking that up.

879
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: And now that I want to be sort of fit

880
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: and healthy for people who are coming to see me play,

881
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: my capacity to do it is like, oh, this is

882
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: actually really hard because my knees and you know, my

883
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: forty seven year old legs.

884
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, Taylor Swift doing the whole show on a

885
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: tweet treadmill at one point two five speed to make

886
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: sure that you've got the caps.

887
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: No, I'll be fine, Like I'll be fine. It's all

888
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: about the set list and about how we The set

889
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: list is obviously very important to me, So where I

890
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: scream and where, because there's a lot of screaming on

891
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: this new record. So I've just got to work out fatigue.

892
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: But I'm relatively it's really good for me in it's

893
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: just for my head. The exercise, it's really good for

894
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: my mental health.

895
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: You're going to take a tennis record on the road, Come,

896
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: i can put it in the truck.

897
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: You've got a fucking semi trailer take for four tennis records.

898
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: And then you just roll out and be like, all right,

899
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: someone's got to someone's got a court everywhere.

900
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: There's a court in every town. And you say, if

901
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: you've got a court in your backyard, oh yeah, right,

902
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 2: I will come.

903
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 3: We'll play tennis.

904
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: We'll play tennis in your backyard, and you can come

905
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: to the show. Because a that gets you out, it

906
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: gets you exploring, it gets your meeting local people.

907
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: Yes, it's nice hereful we are gives you great content.

908
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: Huh oh yeah, content.

909
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 2: This feels great. Tennis Tour twenty twenty four.

910
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: Greensbury have played so many sporting events over the years,

911
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: the Commonwealth Games, Rugby League, whatever, Supercars. We played the

912
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: tennis once and the then Diagram. There's not many tennis

913
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: fans and grins. It's just like there's boat, there's boat

914
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 3: shoes and like, you know, hats. I think they wanted

915
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: the presets and I was like, yeah, I want the

916
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: presets as well. You know, where you're dinging hard rock,

917
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: its like it's not really Tennessee. Anyway, we had a good.

918
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: Time speaking of presets.

919
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I was somewhat inspired by your your approach to.

920
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: Being a DJ, right.

921
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: I saw you dj and Arius after partying one night.

922
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: I was like, hang on a fucking second. He he's

923
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: just pushing play on a MacBook. I could do that,

924
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: and but you were playing the hits and people were

925
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: singing along and that's all that mattered. And I thought

926
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: that was that's quite cool, and I kind of dabbled

927
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: in it for quite a while. You did that for

928
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: a while.

929
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: You went on tour many pjs, yes, too many pj's.

930
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 3: Was it was a fun little gig for a while,

931
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: I did the Groove and the Mood Tour as a DJ,

932
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: and I would often play like thirteen minute songs like

933
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: it's a little bit of antagonizing and a little bit

934
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: of entertainment. But I remember that Aris. It was really fun.

935
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: I just said my MacBook and just play you know,

936
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: cresh it Down by John Farnaman.

937
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: And it nailed it. It was really fun.

938
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But so we've got to remember that people the

939
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: Ari's arts, but is no place for your selections that

940
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: you just got to play bangers because everyone's pretty lit.

941
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: So everyone's just like we want to hear footloose. So

942
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so but yeah, I did. I do

943
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: enjoy it. I think it's if you if you know

944
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: enough about your tunes and you do as well, you

945
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: know what's going to hit. There's there's now since that

946
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: Aria party, there's so many more bangers and great tunes

947
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: that are coming out weekly. So yeah, there's there's a

948
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: lot to add.

949
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: DJ Hooky, who I used to see down Club seventy

950
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: seven a bit. He's been on the show a couple

951
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: of times and he's just got this great bit that

952
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: he talks about.

953
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 2: It's like no one fucking cares about your beat mixing, mate, No,

954
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: that'd be great. Whoop you do great? A full decks?

955
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: All right? Are people singing along if you're having a

956
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: good time and they buying beers? Because that's your job, mate,

957
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: that's your fucking job.

958
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 3: Very wise, no one cares beats seamlessly blended in mashups

959
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: for fucking ten years, I go anyway, like, just play

960
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: the hits.

961
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're here to make people dance. They're thirsty and

962
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: buy dance alcohol. That is where the money comes from.

963
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: Don't fuck it up, very don't play stuff that people

964
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: are on the wrong drugs for because I'm here in

965
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: the business of selling alcohol not water. Yes, illegal for

966
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: me to charge for it, so fuck right, Wa, it's

967
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: free and I can't put fifty bucks on the cover.

968
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: I can't.

969
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: It's going to show up.

970
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's fine. It's fun to do. And I

971
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a thing that you mentioned. You

972
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: get out of there after the after the gig pretty quickly.

973
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me, it's like I just need

974
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: to decompress, and yeah, I like to leave pretty much

975
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 3: asap for many reasons. Just what is just what works

976
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: for me and getting there pretty pretty close to stage time.

977
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: And by no means any disrespect to any support bands,

978
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: because I love I love them all individually and I

979
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 3: would go see them on their own show at any time.

980
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, something about like just everyone's got their own routines,

981
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: everyone does their own separations.

982
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: It's good and people are the focus.

983
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: But this is like what works for me and bringing

984
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: the joy out the fat Mike from a noffect said

985
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 3: something that struck me as pretty pretty insightful. He said,

986
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 3: the only time I ever get nervous is if I'm

987
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: not going to have a good time, Because if I'm

988
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: not having a good time, then I know that no

989
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: one else is gonna have a good time. So he's

990
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: really true, Like it's it's you can't be disingenuous in

991
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: this in my band, so you've got to be enjoying it. Yeah, otherwise,

992
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you're doing there? Why are we

993
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: in Gladston? Why are we going to Mackay? Enjoy it? Man?

994
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: So and he's true, So whatever makes you enjoy that

995
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: ninety minutes on stage, whatever you need to do that.

996
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 1: I do a bit of corporate stuff here and there,

997
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: and it's often their big award night or there. It's like,

998
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: we've got a sait for you there, you see you

999
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: next that And I just say, look, guys, look, you

1000
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: guys haven't seen each other for a year.

1001
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: It's the day three of your three day conference, and

1002
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: all the booze is free. I'm not there to sit

1003
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: and chat with you.

1004
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm there to get on stage and do this and

1005
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to and I know you want to take

1006
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: photos and shit, but I'm not going to do that

1007
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: because it's.

1008
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: Just good for me to not be in the room.

1009
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: I don't do a lot of corporate stuff because I'm

1010
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: very spiky, but when I do do it, I have

1011
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: the same mattitue. They're like, heyah, we want to sit

1012
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: with all these people. I'm like, well, I don't know them.

1013
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 3: Number one, Like, I'm sure they're really friendly, but I

1014
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 3: just want to do what I'm getting paid to do.

1015
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 3: And then I'm going to bounce really.

1016
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: Well, no disrespect, none at all, and I hope you

1017
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: have a good night, bab Yeah, but having you know,

1018
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: the people backstage know that I don't need it. I

1019
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: can't have any booze in my green room. They the

1020
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: people who booked me know to take the minibar out

1021
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: of the hotel room. But the waiter who's offering me

1022
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: another red or another white every five minutes, you can't

1023
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: talk to three hundred, you know.

1024
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: It's a bit of ducking and weaving at that stuff.

1025
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: Luckily for me, and I don't know what that always works

1026
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: for you. But the prevalence of zero alcohol beer has

1027
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: been very, very good. I mean I started this in

1028
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight and all there was was Cooper's

1029
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: Birrel and it was sold at Cole's and Willie's. But

1030
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: now it's just a it's a real, real placebo effect.

1031
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: For example, at the Opera Awards I went to in

1032
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: March or May this year, I had zero's there, which

1033
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: was great. So it does it does help for me.

1034
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't help for everyone, but it does help for me.

1035
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: I can't. The first first time I had one, I

1036
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 2: was in Los Angeles with zero Yeah.

1037
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: Well, the guy that took me to my first meeting,

1038
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: actually I was at his house for dinner and he

1039
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: handed me one. Don't it's the process. I felt the

1040
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: shape of the can in my hand and the feeling

1041
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: of the skilitch, and then there was enough, too much

1042
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: of the molecules like less than five percent, but it

1043
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: was enough of it, like early on kombucha, like before

1044
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: it was bottled. Even that the amount of fermentation. When that,

1045
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: I'd be like, WHOA, right, okay, now I couldn't do it. Yeah,

1046
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: I'll get shaky just thinking about it.

1047
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: You know how. I just mean, well, yeah, yes, for me,

1048
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: it sort of works.

1049
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: I know what is what works, what works soda water.

1050
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: But then again I have to be real careful because

1051
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: sometimes I mishear it and I always sniff it before

1052
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: because sometimes I put.

1053
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 2: Vodka in it. You know, well, it also works.

1054
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: Is not being there. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

1055
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: In some ways, having the motorbike is good because then

1056
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: I if I'm going to see something or do something,

1057
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: I will ride or park out the front. All right,

1058
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: I'll walk straight in, I'll do the thing, go see

1059
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 1: the band whatever. And then and then I walk straight

1060
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: out and I'll get out the front door, get on

1061
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: the motorbike and leave. And that's great, you know, but

1062
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: there's there's no fucking dark secrets or you know, great

1063
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: wisdoms that I'm going to discover.

1064
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: They're not They're not there.

1065
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: I look for years, looked for years, and I never

1066
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: understood it. I never understood it until it's funny, you know.

1067
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: I just I was just before here. I was with

1068
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: the mate and his dad.

1069
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: They call you and you end up going to hospital

1070
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: and you're going to sitting in the yard with someone

1071
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: and you know, and you're like, okay, let's go on

1072
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: because they know that I don't drink and whatever, and

1073
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: sitting and chatting to this guy. He's a mate' dad,

1074
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: he's about my age, and I'm like, man, I can

1075
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: only show him the door.

1076
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm sorry. I can't make him want to do it.

1077
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 2: That's really fucking hard.

1078
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

1079
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 2: Really really hard.

1080
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: And so every day and you mentioned every every day

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00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: that I get to be here if fuck me, this

1082
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: is what I do. I mean, the industry is changing,

1083
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: we're very rap under my feet. So I'm trying to

1084
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: figure it out. I'm still lucky to do it, even

1085
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: have the opportunity. You know, it's amazing. I see it

1086
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: in your eyes, man, I see that you truly really

1087
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: get how fucking lucky all of this is.

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00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty wild. Sometimes, you know, there could be

1089
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: a simulation. We're looking behind the matrix. But yeah, it's

1090
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: been been a wild, wild ride, and you know, getting

1091
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: to release eight records with the band, one solo record,

1092
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 3: and yeah, touring and seeing the world. It's been been

1093
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: quite the adventure. It's not over, definitely not over. Actually

1094
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: this the second half of the year is going to

1095
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: be focus. But yeah, it's not over. But yes, very

1096
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: very very very grateful. But also yeah, I love it.

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00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 3: I really enjoy it.

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00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: Your kids are your kids are old enough to know that,

1099
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: you know, dad does a different job.

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00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean because I was such a I

1101
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 3: wasn't there. Well I was there and I wasn't there,

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00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: and when I came home often I'm somewhat hard to

1103
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: live with, believe it or not, especially when I've just

1104
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: come off the road, because you.

1105
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: Know, it's just so very difficult.

1106
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: So you know, I used to just not doing stuff normally.

1107
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, they know, I think they like the band,

1108
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: but they saw me, they see me do a whole

1109
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: bunch of different projects over the especially the last five years,

1110
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: because it was just there was stiff, different stuff happening.

1111
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah they're great.

1112
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: Are they going to be able to join you at all?

1113
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: La lives in Melbourne. Now she'll come to the Melbourne show.

1114
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: I think Tom might come to the Port McCrory show.

1115
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: Perhaps we'll see I've already thought about it that far ahead.

1116
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, yeah, they're not that interested.

1117
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, no Dad's band.

1118
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah they're not bad, they're not that interested. But I mean,

1119
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: Lila's coming to see me tomorrow night. I'm at the

1120
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: Palais Theater doing some stuff so in Melbourne, so she'll

1121
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: come and watch that.

1122
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so nice.

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00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: Man, that's a different project. But yeah, less less Yelly

1124
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: Grinners is a hectic gig, so.

1125
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's fun.

1126
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: It's fun. I don't think they've seen this that. I

1127
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: actually we closed the Cambridge Hotel in Newcastle this time

1128
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 3: last year, I think or thereabouts. And yeah, Lila, I

1129
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: sung with June Rats. I got up and sung, am

1130
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 3: I ever going to see your face? With Junie's and

1131
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: Lyla sung with me on that, which was really nice.

1132
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 3: She just turned eighteen, so that was a cute moment.

1133
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: And we covered Israel's Son at that show because because.

1134
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: Some Michael guys from there, they had something to do

1135
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: with that song.

1136
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: Yes, something to do with Newcastle. That was a really

1137
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 3: fun it's a great song. Yeah, so that fitted in

1138
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 3: weirdly quite well into Grinner's set, So that was great.

1139
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: That's so, that's really lovely. It's something that I can't quite.

1140
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Describe how being a step dad and being a dad

1141
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: is just it's fucking amazing, man. And for g at

1142
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: least she's twenty. The music I get to hear that

1143
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: otherwise wouldn't have discovered through her is sick.

1144
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some really good stuff at there. Larla's got

1145
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: a finger on some incredible pulses, so yeah, I get

1146
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: to and so does Tom. Actually, Tom's got this great taste,

1147
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: so yeah, there's some Yes, I would never have heard

1148
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 3: this without my kids, definitely.

1149
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do try to infuse wolf with some pretty

1150
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: wild shit.

1151
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 7: Though.

1152
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: We have a yewie boom on the bicycle in their

1153
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: bottle cage.

1154
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, have a cargo bike. And when we ride the

1155
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: daycare it's about a song away, oh right, about five minutes, right,

1156
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 1: And this morning is like play the Robots, dad, Okay,

1157
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: so we craft.

1158
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: Work robots all the way to school today.

1159
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1160
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: He's mad for it. And then you know it was

1161
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: Twilight of the Thundergoder from Amy on. Im asked the

1162
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 2: other day and it's whatever.

1163
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 3: It's fine.

1164
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: Songs about dragons, Son, it's songs about dragons and thor

1165
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: en lightning. I love that it's fine because you've got

1166
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: to do something to offset the poor patrol. You really do,

1167
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: you do, Matte, You're great. Thanks for coming in, man,

1168
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1169
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: So much for having this. Dude, hope it all makes sense.

1170
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense.

1171
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: Great.

1172
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: That was Phil Jamison. Greenspoon are heading back out on

1173
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: the road right across the wide brown land. I don't know,

1174
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember how many it was, forty to fifty.

1175
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: It was a lot of days, all right, a lot

1176
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: of gigs and they're probably playing somewhere near you. If

1177
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: you haven't been in a packed kind of beer barn

1178
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: with decibels getting pummeled at you at a twenty thousand watts,

1179
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you that there's something quite wonderful

1180
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: in that. It's an extraordinary experience. Like you might know

1181
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: what it's like to be on a dance floor and

1182
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: hear a song that everyone.

1183
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: Knows or you know here that you know.

1184
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: It's so loud you can't actually have a conversation, but

1185
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: you both enjoyed the music.

1186
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: You're all enjoying the music. So that's nice.

1187
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: But to be packed into a room with a ticket

1188
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: in your hand or on your phone to see a

1189
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: band that you like with hundreds, sometimes thousands of other people. Look,

1190
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: I took gigs for granted before COVID, But now when

1191
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm at a show, I just revel in the idea

1192
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: that all these hundreds sometimes yeah, thousands of strangers are

1193
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: here together to connect over a common interest of music.

1194
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: It's pretty frickin good. X can get staffed Facebook comments,

1195
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: sections can go take a long walk off a short pier.

1196
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: If you are at the same gig that I am at,

1197
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: you are all right. That's the end of the story.

1198
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: You've got any questions, got any comments, easy pop them

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Speaker 1: under the newsletter. I'll see them there and you might

1201
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Speaker 1: make Monday show.

1202
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: I didn't make this show alone, By the way, steeps

1203
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: people to help me do it.

1204
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: They are about to have their names read to you

1205
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: by a robot ai voiceover, which is some accent, a

1206
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: different one each week.

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Speaker 8: I think.

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Speaker 2: If you want to get on the new Lady, get

1209
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: in the show notes. I'll see you Friday.

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1214
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Speaker 8: for listening.