WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 22 May

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Wednesday. Now, as we know, this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>special week in Australia. I did up at you.

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<v Speaker 3>But everywhere I go I see the banners in the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>I see bunting out the front of people's houses to

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate two years since Anthony Abenezi became the Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can just feel it in the air. How

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<v Speaker 3>amazing the country is. Well, of course things have changed

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<v Speaker 3>ever so slightly since he just won power with the

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<v Speaker 3>lowest primary vote that they'd had in the best part

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<v Speaker 3>of a century. The polls well, unsurprisingly they started to

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<v Speaker 3>turn against the Prime Minister as he was more focused

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<v Speaker 3>on spending half a billion dollars on the Voice rather

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<v Speaker 3>than dealing with cost of living. And in actual fact, well, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they're leading a news poll in the turnbul Times, the Guardian.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a poll where they actually count the number

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<v Speaker 3>of people who don't know. I remember that number was

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<v Speaker 3>significant ultimately when it came to being able to work

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<v Speaker 3>out what was going to have and at that referendum

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<v Speaker 3>last year and today on two party preferred in the Guardian,

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<v Speaker 3>the Liberal Party is leading forty seven to forty six

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<v Speaker 3>with six percent undecided. So in terms of that divide,

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<v Speaker 3>what is it, Well, just four percent of men are

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<v Speaker 3>undecided because at this stage most of them seem to

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<v Speaker 3>be leaning the coalition's way. The problems for Labor in

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<v Speaker 3>part are because of female voters, with almost one in

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<v Speaker 3>ten nine percent saying they are undecided. Now that is

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<v Speaker 3>why all of the uga booga politics will all be about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Petered up in his evil Petered ut in

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<v Speaker 3>his trumple all the rest of it right where the

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<v Speaker 3>Liberal Party has a problem with women, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that it's the leader of the Labor Party who of

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<v Speaker 3>course went to the domestic violence rally and well he

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<v Speaker 3>made the women cry who were organizing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course, what was supposed to change all of

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<v Speaker 3>that was the amazingness of the federal budget, which is

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<v Speaker 3>now a week and a day old.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great potent provide cost of living support whilst also.

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<v Speaker 1>Having that eye on the economy of the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, as we know, the polls not so great because

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<v Speaker 3>people have seen too little too late when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the tax cuts average thirty six dollars. The idea

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<v Speaker 3>of the energy rebate, which is really seventy five dollars

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<v Speaker 3>every three months, which is really twenty five dollars every

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<v Speaker 3>It's not amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you do when you're in a world

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<v Speaker 3>where the cost of living relief is too little.

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<v Speaker 1>Too late.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you reach for other people's money, an endless supply

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<v Speaker 3>of abilities to turn that public opinion around. Now you

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<v Speaker 3>may well have started seeing and hearing ads which are

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the two little too late tax cuts. There

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<v Speaker 3>are plenty on radio, there's a few popping around on television.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course it's pointless because it's not like you

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<v Speaker 3>have to apply for them.

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<v Speaker 1>They just take place anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>And while the big numbers that they like to put

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<v Speaker 3>around them are that this is going to change the

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<v Speaker 3>cost of living, the reality is that you pay your

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<v Speaker 3>tax weekly, fortnightly, and monthly.

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<v Speaker 1>I made the point how many times.

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<v Speaker 3>Over, Well, guess what, There is a limitless amount of

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<v Speaker 3>other people's money when you are trying to use taxpayers

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<v Speaker 3>dollars to get the political effect that the government cares

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<v Speaker 3>about you. And today Daily Telegraph broke the story that

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and seventy two million dollars worth of other

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<v Speaker 3>people's money is being spent by this government right now

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<v Speaker 3>in overtly political games, political ads to tell us the

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<v Speaker 3>silly Australian public who don't believe the government is doing

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<v Speaker 3>the right thing certainly enough on cost of.

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<v Speaker 1>Living that yeah, they're in our corner.

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<v Speaker 3>The Aberdezi government is forking out more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy two million dollars on spooking various government initiatives

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<v Speaker 3>across their different portfolios, including ten million dollars to raise

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<v Speaker 3>awarenarth about the new vehicle efficiency standards. Oh, I've got

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<v Speaker 3>someone to say about that in a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Another ten million dollars on the net zero transition. The

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<v Speaker 3>total figures come as Treasurer Jim Charmers has been forced

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<v Speaker 3>to defense spending forty five million dollars on advertising for

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<v Speaker 3>the future Made in Australia policy. Another forty million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>on the Stage three tax cuts. Now again, public advertising

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<v Speaker 3>should be information about public health or welfare. When it

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<v Speaker 3>starts going on about the Australian government, who's doing this,

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<v Speaker 3>that and the other, go to this website to learn

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<v Speaker 3>it's not public education. It is overtly political. Story continues

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<v Speaker 3>among the spending was ten million dollars set aside for

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<v Speaker 3>a national communications campaign to raise the awareness of the

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<v Speaker 3>new vehicle efficiency standard, while another ten million will be

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<v Speaker 3>spent over two years from twenty three to twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>to deliver public information on the net zero transition and

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<v Speaker 3>ensure affected workers and communicate are aware of the support available.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just all puff, but it's other people's money. And

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<v Speaker 3>while the very significant number of people that are amongst us, well,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't pay as close attention to the news as

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<v Speaker 3>you and I do, because if you do, you are

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<v Speaker 3>where the polls are. But if you just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>pick up the vibe through the ads here here in

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<v Speaker 3>the radio or the TV, oh my gosh, greatest government

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<v Speaker 3>of all time, it's doing something for me. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you actually check your bills and you realize they're doing nothing. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously this Prime Minister would not want to be at

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<v Speaker 3>odds with what he had said when he was the

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<v Speaker 3>opposition leader. I mean, that's not the way this guy goes.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy is exactly the same as he was when

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<v Speaker 3>he's in opposition. Right, like two seventy five power bills,

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<v Speaker 3>like they lived up to that cost living to be

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<v Speaker 3>cheaper they lived up to that, we'd be a more

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<v Speaker 3>transparent government. They lived up to that, right, Anthony abneasy

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<v Speaker 3>about government advertising other people's money used to promote politically

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<v Speaker 3>the previous government, because this prime minister is addicted to

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<v Speaker 3>spending taxpayers money as if it was liberal party money,

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<v Speaker 3>and the ads you see from the government on TV,

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<v Speaker 3>which are promoting liberal and National parties are paid for

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<v Speaker 3>by the taxpayer. It was a bad idea back then,

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<v Speaker 3>but guess what, it's not a bad idea now.

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<v Speaker 1>Could there be a name for this type of personality

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<v Speaker 1>trade of the prime minister.

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<v Speaker 3>Where he's one way and then another, But it's all

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<v Speaker 3>okay because even more gifts come his way as a

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<v Speaker 3>result of other people's money. Don't forget this budget, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's worth mentioning as often as possible. While you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>down the barrel of thirty six dollars a week on

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<v Speaker 3>a tax cut, whoo, twenty five bucks a month on

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<v Speaker 3>power bills, they're spending four point fifty four to fifty

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars on not one, but two brand new planes

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<v Speaker 3>for the prime minister. Now, the Prime Minister may well

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<v Speaker 3>end up using other people's money to advertise why it

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<v Speaker 3>was important for him to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have one of these planes.

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<v Speaker 3>But one thing that I will give him for free

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<v Speaker 3>is what he can name this new two plane airline

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<v Speaker 3>airbus Elbow. I mean, we've got that and the logo

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<v Speaker 3>ready for you right now. If you want other people's money,

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<v Speaker 3>they always find a way to spend it. One hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and seventy two million dollars on ads to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>how amazing their policies are. While they spend what four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and something million dollars on planes, Oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're really in it for you Meantime, in the real world,

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<v Speaker 3>cost of living still the number one issue has been

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<v Speaker 3>since the day this government came to be, and it

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<v Speaker 3>remained so two years after they are here now. To

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<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister's credit, he did launch the Red Shield

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<v Speaker 3>Appeal today. But the Red Shield Appeal and the Salvation

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<v Speaker 3>Army which is kicking off right now, these people do

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<v Speaker 3>incredible work. Any opportunity you can to support them in

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<v Speaker 3>any way possible, with your time, with your money or

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<v Speaker 3>with goods, please do so give and give very generously.

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<v Speaker 1>To the Red Shield Appeal. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>While the Prime ministers spend one hundred and seventy two

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars on ads to pump his own tires, and

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred million dollars on bran new planes to fly

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<v Speaker 3>him in Toto around the world. A survey of fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>hundred of the Salvation Armies financial service clients found that

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<v Speaker 3>two thirds were often going without food so their children

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<v Speaker 3>could eat, and one in three feared that they could

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<v Speaker 3>lose their home and effectively become homeless. Even more strikingly,

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<v Speaker 3>one in five were living in darkness, using candles or

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<v Speaker 3>torches at night to save on power bills.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the best they get out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of this government twenty five dollars a month, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the exact same amount of money they're giving people with

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<v Speaker 3>mansions fared income. These people also use public amenities such

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<v Speaker 3>as bathroom's shopping centers to avoid using.

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<v Speaker 1>Water at home.

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<v Speaker 3>An example of a family that has had to go

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<v Speaker 3>without before they were able to be helped by the

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<v Speaker 3>Salvos and now are not living on the streets. The

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<v Speaker 3>stories we're telling here because again all about the Salvos,

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<v Speaker 3>But in the quariyer Mal the Queens, their mother is

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<v Speaker 3>revealed that she went three days without eating to ensure

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<v Speaker 3>her children had food. When the family found themselves homeless

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<v Speaker 3>and forced on the streets. There were times that I

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<v Speaker 3>had twenty dollars to feed the kids for four days,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd actually go without something to eat and then end

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<v Speaker 3>up going to a food bank.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not alone.

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<v Speaker 3>The new research by the Salvation Army, he's found sixty

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<v Speaker 3>nine sixty nine percent of parents revealing that they would

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<v Speaker 3>go without food so their children can eat, that being

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<v Speaker 3>the people who access the Salvation Army. Now, our friend

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Hildebrand was with the Prime Minister as it was

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<v Speaker 3>all launched today. He's a big supporter of the red

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<v Speaker 3>Shield appeal. He'll be in discussion in a moment or

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<v Speaker 3>two time with Bromb and Bishop. Because if the reality

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<v Speaker 3>of your prime ministership after two years of a prime

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<v Speaker 3>ministership is that people who are accessing welfare services are

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<v Speaker 3>literally going without eating so their kids can eat, we

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<v Speaker 3>have a problem that no amount of other people's money

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<v Speaker 3>can fix. And while this Prime Minister will just fly

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<v Speaker 3>over the top of them in a brand new jet,

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<v Speaker 3>the reality is is that this speaks to, in my view,

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<v Speaker 3>the lack of morality about this government. Mainmetime Angus Taylor,

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<v Speaker 3>the Shadow Treasurer. He was at the National Press Club

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<v Speaker 3>to now, this is an away game for a liberal politician,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was able to get through a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>points to even the people living in the what second

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<v Speaker 3>most livable city in the world, Canberra, About the number

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<v Speaker 3>of people who have to pull back on things like

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<v Speaker 3>organized sport because their kids playing team sport is too expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>The sidelines who are quieter, the crowds thinner. When I

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<v Speaker 5>asked why, the answer was simple but heart wrenching. Many

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<v Speaker 5>families can no longer afford organize sport for their children.

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<v Speaker 5>This isn't just anecdotal, it's a trend we've seen nationally.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that was a story informedo his own experience on

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<v Speaker 3>a netball court in Sydney. The parents who sacrifice oh

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<v Speaker 3>so frequently is not something that is exclusively to be

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned at the National Press Club. We talk about it

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<v Speaker 3>here each and every night, and you may well know

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<v Speaker 3>it as your own life, or your kid's life, or

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who you know and loves life.

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<v Speaker 5>While are their pride and make sacrifices. Haunted by the

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<v Speaker 5>fear of failing to provide for their loved ones, they

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<v Speaker 5>work extra hours and dig deeper into savings, savings which

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<v Speaker 5>are the foundation of their future aspirations.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will not have it heard that this government

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<v Speaker 1>does not care.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they care so much that they are spending

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and seventy two million dollars on ads for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I'll mention it again, they're spending four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million dollars on brand new planes for the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime minister. Oh but they care, They really care, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the conversation about migration, what's the right number? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a.

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<v Speaker 3>Goldilocke's number about the number of people coming into the country. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, Peter Dutton is exactly where the public

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<v Speaker 3>is where pole off the pole is constantly said that

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<v Speaker 3>Australians want a dramatic reduction in the number of people

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<v Speaker 3>that are coming to the country because in the years

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<v Speaker 3>since COVID, this government has got it grossly wrong, so

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<v Speaker 3>much so that this government's had to admit themselves that

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<v Speaker 3>they have got it wrong. But there's another group that's

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<v Speaker 3>out and about and telling us why any further reduction

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<v Speaker 3>to immigration would be terrible. Well, of course that's the

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<v Speaker 3>big business community. Big business would of course be desperately

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is going to affect our.

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<v Speaker 1>Skills space, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>None of these people wing when it's the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 3>promising to do the same thing. But when it's Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Dutton promising to match their cuts and go even deeper. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>the sky is going to fall in the big end

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<v Speaker 3>of town is about to collapse. Well, please, any decent

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<v Speaker 3>person understands what this is really about. It is not

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<v Speaker 3>about robbing Australia of skilled workers. That still be one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand that would come in each year, but we

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't end up with the hundreds of thousands of more

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<v Speaker 3>people who turn up, including family reunion, under this government.

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<v Speaker 3>For his part, Peter Dutton understandably is doubling down on

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<v Speaker 3>where he knows the people are. That when there are

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<v Speaker 3>as many problems that come about everything from problems in

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<v Speaker 3>our hospitals to cues for rental properties, that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>add more people to the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>The outrage from the usual suspects about you know why

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<v Speaker 6>you're proposing to cut the migration program because I'm putting

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<v Speaker 6>Australians first. That's why i want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 6>our migration program works for our country, not against the

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<v Speaker 6>interests of our country.

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<v Speaker 3>And all of the people inside the bubble of the

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<v Speaker 3>bubble of the bubble of Canberra, they say that this

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<v Speaker 3>is ugly politics, nationalist politics, that's code for Trump politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect example is a cartoon that sums up just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the nuance of the argument in the City Morning Herald,

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<v Speaker 3>where apparently the number of people that will be migrating

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<v Speaker 3>to the country, well it gets cut and then they

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<v Speaker 3>all fall into what a.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuclear vat of acid.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, again, none of this stuff when it was the

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<v Speaker 3>government that was promising to cut. But because people don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe that the government's actually going to cut, well, supprise

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<v Speaker 3>suppose And there's actually another person who agrees with the

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<v Speaker 3>position of Peter Dutton, and it's the Queen's Land Premier.

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<v Speaker 3>He says that the amount of population movement that's happened,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly intra state move as well as internationals, is starting

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<v Speaker 3>to cause problems in road congestion and a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But probably the less said about him the better. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep talking about him.

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<v Speaker 3>So Stephen Miles, the Queensland Premier is in a world

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<v Speaker 3>of trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>More evidence that.

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<v Speaker 3>He is sinking by the day. And once Queensland has

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<v Speaker 3>get the chance to go to the polling booth. They

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<v Speaker 3>will walk right past him, no matter how much morone

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<v Speaker 3>he tries to wear, no matter how much he tries

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<v Speaker 3>to say, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on guys, on one of you, I'm like go Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>New prole in the Brisbane Times shows that the primary

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<v Speaker 3>vote of the Labor Party could well be down as

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<v Speaker 3>low as twenty six percent. Now I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 3>that's the case, but still it's way down from where

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<v Speaker 3>it was at the election when it was closer to

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<v Speaker 3>forty percent, and the LNP is now well over the

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<v Speaker 3>forty percent, meaning that the minor parties such as One Nation, UAP,

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<v Speaker 3>a whole bunch of others their preferences well should be

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<v Speaker 3>able to help the government to change in Queensland. Fingers

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<v Speaker 3>cross And just in case people think that maybe Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>my is the answer to the political problems of the

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<v Speaker 3>Labor Party, well he preferred premier. He's twenty eight percent,

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<v Speaker 3>don't know is sitting at thirty three percent, and at

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<v Speaker 3>thirty nine percent right now is none other than David Cruci. Fully,

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<v Speaker 3>so fingers crossed, there is going to be a change

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<v Speaker 3>in Queensland. But if you need to get another reminding,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're watching us in the Sunshine State about why

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<v Speaker 3>there needs to be a change, let's get back to

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<v Speaker 3>hospital ramping. This is when forty five percent of all

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<v Speaker 3>people who end up in the back of an ambulance

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait about thirty minutes, but most likely longer

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<v Speaker 3>because there's no space in the hospital for the people

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<v Speaker 3>who have called the ambulance. Now, this situation is the

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<v Speaker 3>worst that has ever been in Queensland history. So understandably

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<v Speaker 3>the LNP says, can we sack the health Minister?

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<v Speaker 7>And how long have I said? Shannon Fnjaman said she'd

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<v Speaker 7>be different, Well, she's different, alright, she's worse. Shannon Fnsaman

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<v Speaker 7>said that she would be transparent. Well, Queenslanders can see

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<v Speaker 7>right through Shannon Fenceman cannot trust Shannon Fentman and that

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<v Speaker 7>is why she must go.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course Stephen Myles has no interest in sacking

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<v Speaker 3>the Health Minister and I no matter how bad she is,

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<v Speaker 3>because remember, of course, at one point in time she

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to leave frog Hin to become the premier. They

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<v Speaker 3>ended up not having a fight, which meant it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to go to the members and fentlemen probably would

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<v Speaker 3>have won. So unsurprisingly, Stephen Milesy is backing one of

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<v Speaker 3>the worst health ministers in Queensland's history.

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<v Speaker 8>What I know is that Shannon as our Health Minister,

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<v Speaker 8>is doing a very good job in what is a

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<v Speaker 8>very difficult job. I know how difficult that job is,

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<v Speaker 8>and she is doing it well. We are giving her

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<v Speaker 8>and Queensland Health extraordinary resources because we know the growth

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<v Speaker 8>in demand that we are currently experiencing. Those resources are

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<v Speaker 8>what's allowing us to employ more doctors and nurses and paramedics,

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<v Speaker 8>and to build more hospitals and deliver more hospital beds.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet, just this week we hear stories about a person

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<v Speaker 3>in the seventies who died of a heart attack in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of an ambulance because they weren't able to

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<v Speaker 3>get into a hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, meantime, there's another minister who deserves a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of attention here, and it is a minister who has

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<v Speaker 3>been spending the people's money going off on cultural diplomacy

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<v Speaker 3>while many Queenslanders a struggling to keep a roof over

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<v Speaker 3>the head. Queensland's Communications Minister Lianne Enoch was jet sitting

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<v Speaker 3>around North America in business class with three senior staffers.

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<v Speaker 3>Documents obtained by nine News under the Right of Information

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<v Speaker 3>reveal the trip, which was led by her. Her other

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<v Speaker 3>minister of responsibilities are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander partnerships

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<v Speaker 3>in the treaty. She's also the Arts Minister. And it

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<v Speaker 3>cost one hundred and twenty six as I say, one

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars. It was a ten day trip.

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<v Speaker 1>It took in New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Edmonton and Vancouver in Canberra in Canada for the purposes

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<v Speaker 3>of cultural diplomacy that was approved by the previous premiere

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<v Speaker 3>before she got da hepho. And speaking of terrible governments,

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<v Speaker 3>the Victorian government now this has been an election winning machine,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter how how bad they've been as a government,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what they've done to the state's finances, and

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<v Speaker 3>no matter how badly they ran their health system. Because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've got a north face jacker. Well, since

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<v Speaker 3>the removal or since the resignation of Daniel Andrews, the

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<v Speaker 3>replacement premier isn't quite as attractive to the people of Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, again polling, same organization, but this time in

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<v Speaker 3>the Age newspaper shows that the primary vote of the

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<v Speaker 3>Labor Party is allegedly twenty eight percent. Now twenty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, of course close to forty percent around the

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<v Speaker 3>last election. The LMP is edging up at thirty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 3>But before anyone gets too excited and thinks that Persudo

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<v Speaker 3>is going to end up as the premier, he's currently

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<v Speaker 3>the preferred premier choice of but just twenty six percent

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<v Speaker 3>of the electorate. She's thirty one percent of the electorate

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<v Speaker 3>and the extreme majority undecided. So thea regularly the next

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<v Speaker 3>election is up for grabs, but no doubt both of

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<v Speaker 3>those leaders will probably be replaced and then we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>back to the way politics has.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally played in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>But one thing I wanted to update you on that

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<v Speaker 3>we brought to you over the past couple of nights was,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, that the treaty process which is playing out

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<v Speaker 3>in Victoria right now, is one where things are put

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<v Speaker 3>on the table, and then as soon as anyone reports

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<v Speaker 3>about what's put on the table, everyone pretends there's nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to see here. However, the government has said they will

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<v Speaker 3>not rule anything in or out.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the treaty negotiations.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember the story this week that the Allen government has

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<v Speaker 3>refused to rule out giving compulsory acquired private property to

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<v Speaker 3>Indigenous groups and establishing seats designated for Indigenous members in

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<v Speaker 3>the Victorian Parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Artie Jill, remember Artie Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>We spoke about her previously when her ten points suggestions,

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<v Speaker 3>which among other things were interest free loans and no

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<v Speaker 3>rates and no taxes effectively for Indigenous people to be paid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after we reported it, she turned around said, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no Idea's not happening.

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<v Speaker 3>She's turning around and saying that the compulsory acquisition thing

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<v Speaker 3>definitely not happening. But then when she was on the

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<v Speaker 3>radio this morning on through Our w with Tom Elliot,

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<v Speaker 3>she says, I think reparations should be on the table,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might not be in the form of money.

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<v Speaker 3>It may will be in the form of empowerment, it

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<v Speaker 3>may be by the way of land. But then she

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<v Speaker 3>goes on to say, no, it definitely won't be about

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<v Speaker 3>the acquiring of private property. So see how this process

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<v Speaker 3>works because the government will not rule a line where

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<v Speaker 3>negotiations go too far. Everything's on the table. As soon

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<v Speaker 3>as anyone reports what's on the table, it's quickly taken

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<v Speaker 3>off the table and then when nobody's looking at it

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<v Speaker 3>goes back on the table. All in all, a bad look,

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<v Speaker 3>a bad reality, and a bad government that it would

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<v Speaker 3>be feeling like as they're trying to write some history,

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<v Speaker 3>either on their way out or on their way to

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<v Speaker 3>a fifth term, will they sign up.

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<v Speaker 1>To a bad deal? Probably?

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<v Speaker 3>Now I mentioned before the vehicle emission standards, the big

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<v Speaker 3>car tax, which is on its way as a price

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<v Speaker 3>dis incentive, will be built into high polluting vehicles. Yet

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<v Speaker 3>the standards are going to be said so low that

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<v Speaker 3>basically anything that is a popular carr in Australia will

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<v Speaker 3>be too polluting and therefore well our extra taxes will

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<v Speaker 3>be put on top of the cost of the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all the brilliant brainchild of the three D Chess

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<v Speaker 3>champion Chris Bowen, the Climate Change and Energy Minister. Why

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<v Speaker 3>because he wants everyone driving an electric car? Why because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we've got to do our bit to save

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<v Speaker 3>the planet, despite the fact that our bit to save

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<v Speaker 3>the planet is one percent of global pollution one percent. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>last week, when the Senate was sitting and people were

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<v Speaker 3>looking the other way, guess what actually happened. This became

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<v Speaker 3>the law. And how did it become the law. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the Greens got together along with a couple of the

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<v Speaker 3>independents and they got it over the line. Now what

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<v Speaker 3>effectively here? And I've got to say I find this

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<v Speaker 3>particularly amusing is that remember when petrol tax under this

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<v Speaker 3>government went up to forty nine cents per lita.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the same day that Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>Bohm was pretending that these changes in fuel efficiency standards

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<v Speaker 3>mean that if you buy the right car on the

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<v Speaker 3>right day and it has the right fuel efficiency standard,

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<v Speaker 3>you might end up saving money when it comes to petrol.

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<v Speaker 3>It started off as hundreds, and then it became thousands

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<v Speaker 3>because you can just make these numbers up. And then

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<v Speaker 3>because they made a slight tweak, slight tweak to just

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<v Speaker 3>how low the bar would be, and when the bar

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<v Speaker 3>would kick in.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone said, oh great, we've had a victory.

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<v Speaker 3>No, the exact system that we talked about for months

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<v Speaker 3>is now the law of the land. And guess what

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<v Speaker 3>happened today. And entirely other group of cars that nobody

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<v Speaker 3>was talking about before this legislation had passed are now

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<v Speaker 3>being singled out by lefty media to tell us they

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<v Speaker 3>may not be as fuel efficient as you think, and

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<v Speaker 3>if they're not as fuel efficient as they think, then

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be potentially the ones that end up

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<v Speaker 3>with the brand new tax. Oh but it's not a tax,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have your choice to buy whatever car you want.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just going to make the one that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to buy so expensive that you'll have to buy the

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<v Speaker 3>EV which is still really expensive, but it's not as

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<v Speaker 3>expensive as the one that we've loaded up with taxes

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<v Speaker 3>in the tray of the ute or in the back

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<v Speaker 3>of the suv. The Suzuki Swift recorded the highest discrepancy

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<v Speaker 3>in fuel consumption small car, using six point three liters

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<v Speaker 3>per fuel of fuel per one hundred kilometers. That's thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one percent more than the lab tested.

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<v Speaker 1>Version of it. In terms of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Suv, Mazda's CX five was found to use fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 3>more fuel when it's in the real world compared to

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<v Speaker 3>the lab.

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<v Speaker 5>A.

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<v Speaker 3>Scoda uses fourteen percent the CX three as well as

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<v Speaker 3>the SUPERU forest A hybrid. Will they end up using

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<v Speaker 3>ten and eleven percent more? Why do I point on

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<v Speaker 3>all of that out, Because what is the way the

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<v Speaker 3>system works? They set the bar here and if it's

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<v Speaker 3>a tax, they just keep increasing it or a levee

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<v Speaker 3>with a stroke of a pen. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>the fuel efficiency standards, you just keep dropping them because

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<v Speaker 3>the media, who want nothing but electric cars will cheer

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<v Speaker 3>it in. Those of us who are aware that Australians

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<v Speaker 3>are choosing to buy the cars that they currently do,

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<v Speaker 3>who don't want to buy an electric vehicle for a

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<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of different reasons. If you want to buy one,

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<v Speaker 3>good luck to you. But essentially forcing everyone to make

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<v Speaker 3>the choice is a little bit like if they've ever

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<v Speaker 3>opened a toll road in a capital city near you

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<v Speaker 3>or the one that you live in, where magically all

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<v Speaker 3>of the streets you used to be able to use

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<v Speaker 3>to get around the traffic all suddenly become one way

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<v Speaker 3>and you get forced onto the toll road. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what's going to happen here. They said it was

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<v Speaker 3>about youths, they said it was about SUVs. Mark my

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<v Speaker 3>Wurtz used, cars are going to start to fall into this.

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<v Speaker 3>There'll be state governments that will introduce limits on the

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<v Speaker 3>number of cars of a certain age that will be

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to be registered, forcing you into buying a car

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<v Speaker 3>you can't afford, and interest rates that can continually go up,

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<v Speaker 3>because this is the greatest government of all time. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you complain, well, that's on you. Now speaking of

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<v Speaker 3>all things to do with climate change and the importance

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<v Speaker 3>and difficulty that it provides for an awful lot of

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 3>people tooling around on the internet today, and I noticed

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<v Speaker 3>this story from the United States which further goes into

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<v Speaker 3>the rather recent psychological phenomenon of eco anxiety.

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<v Speaker 4>There are a variety of consequences a changing climate can

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<v Speaker 4>have on people's mental health. It's a growing area of research,

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<v Speaker 4>but the American Psychiatric Association says that impacts fall into

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<v Speaker 4>three buckets.

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<v Speaker 9>There are the direct impacts of heat on the brain

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<v Speaker 9>and the prevalence of mental illness. There are indirect effects

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<v Speaker 9>that are the many ripples of putting carbon dioxide in

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<v Speaker 9>the atmosphere, and then there are psychological impacts.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, mental health proof that people go a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>crazy on a hot day.

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<v Speaker 1>But please continue this edable research.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the psychological impacts trauma from living through an

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<v Speaker 4>extreme weather disaster. Some also struggle with mental distress, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>called eco anxiety, as they watch the world grapple with

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<v Speaker 4>climate change.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure that floods and cyclones and tornadoes were

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<v Speaker 3>not pleasant for previous generations either. But hopefully this news

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<v Speaker 3>reporter was able to find on the level kids who

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<v Speaker 3>understand that, while yes, the world does need to do

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<v Speaker 3>something about climate change, it's not about to end tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel anxiety constantly about the weather, about like the weather, overheating.

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<v Speaker 1>I do get stressed fairly often.

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<v Speaker 9>People expect us to be the generation that fixes the

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<v Speaker 9>problem that no one asked for. A lot of young

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 9>people are thinking about how this is going to impact

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<v Speaker 9>their futures, their safety, The idea of wanting to have children.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodless greensmiders seriously. Now, of course, the reason.

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<v Speaker 3>I had the anxiety is because the information and that's

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<v Speaker 3>constantly being pumped at them again is climate change of problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes this it need to be dealt with, sure, but

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that Western countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to bend themselves into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not while China can do whatever they all at once

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<v Speaker 3>with a billion people until twenty thirty because it's a

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<v Speaker 3>developing nation. Oh that's right, a developing nation with a

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<v Speaker 3>space station.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, wouldn't it be.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice if all of the pressure that's constantly put either

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<v Speaker 3>onto our kids or onto our governments was actually turned

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<v Speaker 3>to the great polluters of the world like China, India,

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<v Speaker 3>or Russia, or the Global South, or third worlders the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of us would have known it to be, or

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<v Speaker 3>developing worlders if he wanted to be more polite. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>in a moment or two, Broman Bishop and Joe hide

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<v Speaker 3>brand here, it's going to be a ding dongs. We

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the greatest government of all time, a report

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<v Speaker 3>card from those who mark harshly and those who mark

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<v Speaker 3>lightly on two years of the Prime Minister, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the greet. Meghan Kelly and Meghan Kelly had a conversation

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<v Speaker 3>today with Bill maher broadcasting comedian in the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>and it got pretty nasty. Not from Megan's end, but

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<v Speaker 3>he was an e and looking at her while sitting

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<v Speaker 3>face to face and just dismissing everything she had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill, I think that that Honter Biden was a hot

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<v Speaker 2>mess and Joe Biden was embarrassed by him but had

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<v Speaker 2>to deal. Now, I really think he was doing Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's bidding. Joe Biden is the bad guy who sent

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<v Speaker 2>his drug adult son out there to collect money.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what the laptop shows, and that's.

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<v Speaker 11>More important than what I was bringing up about not

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<v Speaker 11>abiding by election results, not not respecting what always made

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<v Speaker 11>this country great, the peaceful transferrence of power.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't disagree with you on that. You're not going

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<v Speaker 10>to get me to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to get you to agree to disagree.

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<v Speaker 11>You're obviously someone who looks at an elephant in a

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<v Speaker 11>mouse and can I tell which one is bigger?

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<v Speaker 1>Colossi stuff, Bill, really Colossi stuff. But he's on a

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<v Speaker 1>book to it right now where he's saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all hate each other too much.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Mirah pal Ll right, quick break back when the wall, Roman, Bishop,

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Joe Hilderbrain just the way you lock it, and Nawston poncheet'

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<v Speaker 3>and on on a windstad On he on, Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Meghan before wed None.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been so excited to do meet with my dear

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 3>friends Bromban, Bishop and jo Hildebrand who were just furiously

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<v Speaker 3>agreeing that the two years of the greatest Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 3>of all times.

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<v Speaker 12>Next subject.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now, kudos to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Much of the quoting in the editorial today about the

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<v Speaker 3>Salvo stuff was from your story about the launch of

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<v Speaker 3>it in and around with some Elbow stuff that we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to in a moment or two his time.

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<v Speaker 1>But bromin the two year mark, what.

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<v Speaker 13>Do you think, Well, if for failure because he promised

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<v Speaker 13>three very important things one year, all feel better after

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 13>he got elected as Prime minister, he would take responsibility

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 13>for everything and it would be a transparent government. Fail

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<v Speaker 13>fail fail correct, people feel worse. Twelve interest rate hikes.

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<v Speaker 13>We've got criminals that they've led our under the streets

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<v Speaker 13>because they wanted to High Court only said one had

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<v Speaker 13>to come out direct. Every time you look at something,

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 13>and the cost of fuel is through the roof, and

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<v Speaker 13>that in fact, Joe drives the cost of living through

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<v Speaker 13>the sky. From the apple you buy to give your

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<v Speaker 13>kid to take the school, to the pair of shoes

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<v Speaker 13>that you buy at another shop. It affects everything you do.

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<v Speaker 13>Cost of everything is fuel. And the insane policies, the

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<v Speaker 13>insane policies of mister Bourne and Albow the Trot, have

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<v Speaker 13>done nothing but force those prices up and worse. Again,

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<v Speaker 13>there's been no leadership on anti Semitism, none at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to give equal time here, but I'm

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 3>not going to keep a clock right, So Joe obviously

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<v Speaker 3>your thoughts would be the exact opposite that they are

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<v Speaker 3>what they say.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, obviously hasn't been the perfect government, There's no

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<v Speaker 12>question about that. A lot of these things are beyond

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 12>the government's control. And I think it was probably a

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 12>mistake to promise that they could fix cost of living,

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<v Speaker 12>and they obviously hung it around the previous government's neck

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 12>when it suited them and said that everything to be

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<v Speaker 12>fine to them. I'm always wary of those that I'm

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 12>always wary of those kind of promises. But again, this

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 12>is an economic crisis that is gripping the entire world.

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 12>It is because of the overhang from the pandemic measures

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 12>that we put in place that frankly a lot of

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 12>which should never have been put in place, and people

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<v Speaker 12>like you want to be like people like you, and

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 12>I were saying, well, you know you can. You know,

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 12>no one wanted to go back to having just one

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 12>airline in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's looking so the taxpayer should by the said,

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>this is.

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<v Speaker 12>Just a possibility, it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

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<v Speaker 12>But I think firstly Albo maybe he was a tried

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 12>He's not a trot anymore. Alba has no love, has

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 12>no love for the trot Trots are making his life

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 12>a misery. Is making a misery on Palestine and making

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 12>life misery on.

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<v Speaker 13>The women's He's making life miseries, making himself taking No.

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.719
<v Speaker 12>They're attached to his office like barnacles. They're making news

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 12>to themselves on campus, They're screaming at him at rallies.

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 12>He has no love for the Trits. I can promise

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 12>you that he is someone who is very much moving

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 12>to the center. And I think that it's a.

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 13>Government that shows in the left wing gutter.

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<v Speaker 12>It's a government that is a bit wobbly. All first

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.000
<v Speaker 12>term governments are John Howard's first term governments very wobbly.

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 12>Lost three ministers went on to become one of the

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<v Speaker 12>greatest prime ministers the country's ever had. So I don't think.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't think it's been right off by any means.

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<v Speaker 3>So, okay, I'm gonna want there's a couple of ministers

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 3>would be a good start, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Immigration, there's one I wouldn't mind going.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, there's one I wouldn't mind going. Home Affairs can stay,

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 12>but immigration, I think maybe should be Assistant Minister for

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 12>the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Now also interesting that Pedic Costello and I do find

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 3>this look Petic Costello obviously a fantastic treasurer, but long

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 3>out of government and your circumstances were the river of

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 3>good times as opposed to the river of bad times

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 3>right through through the mining boom.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, you don't forget when when the Howard government was

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 13>first elected there was a huge Asian collapse. Yes, true,

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 13>and we came through that in a pretty steady manner.

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying, is that there is a little

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 3>thing that happens after every budget, which is generally speaking,

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 3>a week and a bit later, PEEDT. Costello tells us

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>thumbs up or thumbs down. He says, absolutely inflationary. Basically

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 3>every opinion poll says that those who think that their

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 3>life is really going to be changed by it was

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 3>for fifths of bugger all. But now we learn that

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 3>we're just going to Basically, I think they've made a

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of decisions which were about giving them a

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 3>slogan for an election whenever it would be about every

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 3>household and every taxpayer. But if Costello is telling us

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 3>that it's inflationary, the consequences of that are interest rates up,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 3>whereas the Prime Minister is holding on for dear life

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 3>that interst rates go down so they can turn around

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 3>and say, look, look it's look, you've gone from Robina

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 3>purple to slightly mow.

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<v Speaker 1>Vote for us.

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<v Speaker 13>But that's why I say there'll be an early election

0:33:54.040 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 13>because snake snake Charmer the Treasurer has said, oh well

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:04.479
<v Speaker 13>this is anti inflationary this budget, and therefore there's going

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 13>to be a rate cut. And I know better than

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 13>the Reserve Bank who says there may be a rad rise.

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 13>So is he going to want to play Russian roulette

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 13>and get tested? Not on your nelly already, I can

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 13>said it. I know what happens in the party room.

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 13>I know what happens when a leader starts to fail,

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 13>as Albow is failing. They get restless, They see their seats,

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 13>they look at them. Am I going to get re elected?

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 13>Is this going to be? Am I going to have

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 13>to pay the price? And they start to get really restless.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 13>And Charmers is over there. He thinks he's the god

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 13>given solution to reinventing capitalism and having a whole different thing.

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<v Speaker 13>It's going to get very tricky for them. There are

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<v Speaker 13>so many reasons why it's going to go earlier. It

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<v Speaker 13>doesn't matter what you told Albo to say.

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<v Speaker 12>The fact that Okay, so your theory is so that

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 12>Jim Charmers is going to fall. Albo to go to

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 12>an early election so he'll lose and Charmers can take

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<v Speaker 12>over the leadership. Is that the theory?

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<v Speaker 13>I wouldn't the first and make the final conclusion.

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 12>And Albo such a spring chicken, he'd never see that coming.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 12>I mean, it's not like he's got a history in politics.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you think they're going to go You think they're

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<v Speaker 12>going to go to an election before the Queensland state elections,

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 12>so that every vote.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 13>State election matters the world beans, you.

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<v Speaker 12>Don't think, I don't think that they're just going to

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<v Speaker 12>line up and belt the Jesus out of him after

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.399
<v Speaker 12>they struggled to do well as well as they should

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 12>have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland now in the opinion polls preferred the only place.

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<v Speaker 12>Suicide. Note this is I mean, everyone keeps saying this

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 12>is the Albaneze Government's an absolute idea, and that's why

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 12>he's going to call the election. He's lower than he's

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 12>ever before, and that's why he's going to March. The files.

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<v Speaker 12>It's insane.

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>They are going to go.

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<v Speaker 13>The distant cuts in the budget aren't going to last

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<v Speaker 13>till next May.

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<v Speaker 12>No, that's right. He's not relying on the tax cuts.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 12>He's relying on interest rates coming down. And when interest

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 12>rates come down, or if interest rates come down, which everyone.

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 13>Is predicting, broken the back and everything, then.

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 12>The first half of next year he can say, Look,

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 12>the worst is over. It's nothing better.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 13>You're saying he's going to go to August the.

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<v Speaker 12>First half of next year, in the second half of

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 12>the mate the first five months.

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<v Speaker 13>Now, the only thing you and I agree on is

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 13>the Salvation Army.

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 12>Well, the Salvation Army is episode and they love Albo.

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 12>They love him. He's a strong stone.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 13>Grateful on the weekend. And I won't have I won't

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 13>have the Salvation. I mean defamed in that manner.

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<v Speaker 12>You should just knock on Elbow's door and I'll pop

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<v Speaker 12>in the pineapple for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe you can go to one of the rental

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 3>properties that he owns and the bloke's about to boot,

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:45.240
<v Speaker 3>but you know that's a nothing.

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Now I.

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:51.760
<v Speaker 12>Can save fifty thousand dollars my landlord charge be half

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 12>the market right on a three bedroom townhouse I'm living

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 12>in on my own.

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh the humanity.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it does make perfect sense that you brief against

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 3>your tenant to the Australian media.

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, let's get to let's get off. So because

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>he crossed the PM, I wish him well and here

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it goes.

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like that lady has never been heard of again,

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, after calling the Prime Minister out at the

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 3>women's rally for the crying and all the never.

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Never heard of it because they realized I wish them well.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 12>Stuff up and the camera show.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Video crying too, right, remember that tape is there as well.

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 12>Cry Oh my god, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 13>Know what is the change in the prime minister circumstance

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 13>then he needs?

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<v Speaker 12>That's a bit personal, isn't it.

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's been in the papers.

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<v Speaker 12>Getting married.

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Now that's the pay for the wedding.

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 12>No, it's the change in circumstances.

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>It's rubbish.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's talk about Let's talk about something that is

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 3>something that all of us, in some one version or

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 3>another has spoken about with people or people say hey.

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Can you find a way to start talking about this?

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 3>On the telly the worry people have for their kids

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 3>and their grandkids financially right about how they're going to

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>get into a house, how they're going to get into

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 3>a position to be able to earn a house. Basically,

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 3>are you in the world that's lucky enough to be

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>inheriting something eventually or the people who never bought a house,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 3>and how you end up in that hole? This yees

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 3>does drive and certainly for the younger voter's going to

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 3>drive them further to the hard left in terms of voting.

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 3>But what does this country have to actually do to

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 3>start to give those opportunities to break out of the

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 3>circumstances that were your parents in order to be able

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 3>to supersede their financial structures.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, let's look at the things that have changed. If

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 13>you go back to the Person War period, the people

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 13>who are responsible for providing sewerage, water, electricity, gas, kirby

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 13>and guttering roads was the government. Yes, then these things changed.

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 13>Now it's the developer who's responsible for that, and all

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 13>of that is built into the cost of the land.

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 13>And when we talk about the difficulty of buying houses

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 13>or we're really talking about is land and they're not

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 13>making any of that anymore. It's a limited and limited supply.

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 13>We have it decentralized in the way that there was

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 13>a great hope we would decentralize, except in Queensland they're

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 13>a decentralized state. But the thing is that two thirds

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 13>of the population are affected by high interest rates because

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 13>it affects mortgage holders and renters both in the same way.

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>So they're all hurting.

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<v Speaker 13>But if you also look at that generation, they're going

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 13>to inherit the wealth that comes from the baby boomer generation,

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 13>and in the meantime, that generation is still helping kids

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 13>with deposits, with paying expenses, with school fees, with a

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 13>whole range of things. The bank of mom and dad

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 13>is very real. The kids who miss out are the

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 13>ones where the parents get divorced and there's a new

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 13>bride and they take the dough. They're the ones who

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 13>missed out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 13>So when you're looking at how do you enable people

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 13>to get access to enough deposit to be able to

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<v Speaker 13>get a loan from the bank, then Peter Dutton's policy

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:20.120
<v Speaker 13>of saying you can have access to your fore gone wages.

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 13>It's your money which has been taken and you can

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 13>have access to that to buy yourself a home, which

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 13>is the best thing you can have in retirement because

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 13>you have a guarantee of a roof over your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm hard up against the chat. We're about to

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<v Speaker 3>have a Megan, But your thoughts on this, Joe, because

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 3>it's something we're going to have to bring.

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<v Speaker 12>Back, is absolutely insane. I think that the biggest problem

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 12>is simply simple capitalism. It's supply and demand. There is

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 12>too much demand, not enough supply. It's immigration. No, because

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 12>half the reason why there's not enough supplies because there

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 12>was no immigration during the COVID lockdowns, so everyone stopped

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.720
<v Speaker 12>building it. Yes, that is absolutely so. That is absolutely so.

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 12>And so what you've got to do. You've got to

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 12>free up the land. You've got to yes, de centralize,

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 12>and you've got to get more people living in the

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 12>region of the bush. Got to make that more attractive

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 12>to people. You've also got to make sure that people

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 12>are prepared to cop medium density around transport hubs and

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 12>that you don't have Nimbi's just jumping up and down

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 12>saying oh, yes, I support more housing, but not in

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 12>my street. What about the parking? And you've got to

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 12>have people who are willing to willing to build it.

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 12>And it's as simple as that. And if people don't

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 12>think there's going to be a buck in it, then

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 12>they're not going to build it.

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<v Speaker 3>An even tougher conversation than text and sessions and all

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 3>the rest of it downsizing. Put it on the table

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>for it in a few weeks time.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it. Thank you Bromman, Thank you, Joe.

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 3>All right, quick breakback with more Meghan Kelly about everything

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 3>to do with Trump in the US and a sect

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 3>favorite time of the week to talk about favorite person

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 3>in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Meghan Kelly joins us now from the United States. How

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>are you done? Hi?

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 10>How are you now?

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 3>I've got to say, well, I've had many sleepless nights

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 3>watching all the details of the Trump trial.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I've always tried.

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 3>To give the benefit of the doubt to the judge

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 3>that he's trying to be fair. The past couple of days,

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 3>though he has shown he has got it in for Trump,

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 3>and he, when he has the chance to sentence him,

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 3>will probably send him to jail. Why do I say that,

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 3>because anyone who was there for the prosecution could talk

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 3>for as long as they want about anything that doesn't

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 3>have anything to do with the actual case. But when

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 3>a defense witness is brought forward, every single question was

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 3>objected to, and when the person in the witness box

0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 3>was sort of frustrated that they could never start to

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 3>answer questions, the judge clears the court room and loses

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 3>his brain.

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<v Speaker 10>They never should have called Costello. He was useless.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>He did not add to the defense's case. They should

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>have projected strength by saying, we feel no need to

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 2>call any witnesses projecting to the jury. The case hasn't

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 2>been made and we don't need He didn't add anything.

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 10>I know he said. Cohen has said repeatedly that he.

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Had nothing on Donald Trump. He had nothing on Donald Trump.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 2>They'd already gotten Coen to admit that on cross examination.

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 2>That was already in the record. They didn't need Costello

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 2>for that. And I think it was pretty clear that

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Trump wanted him and probably.

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 10>Overruled his lawyer's advice not to call him.

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 2>And while Costello is a very smart guy to me,

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 2>at least from what I read because I didn't get

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:20.839
<v Speaker 2>to see his testimony like everybody else, he sounded pretty

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>arrogant and smug and disrespectful to the judge as much

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>as you may hate the judge, the jury doesn't. The

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 2>jury sees the judge like dad. He takes good care

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 2>of us. He makes our meals for us, gets our

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 2>meals for us. He makes sure that if I.

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.919
<v Speaker 10>Have an appointment, I make it there on time. They

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.759
<v Speaker 10>like the judge. The judge is their handholder.

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 2>And they really don't want you to want to see

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 2>anybody be a prick to him. So it wasn't a

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 2>good strategy.

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 10>They shouldn't have called him.

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>But it's all academic because this judge is not on

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the defense's side. He's been on team prosecution from the start.

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>And I think again, with the jury selection the way

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.399
<v Speaker 2>it went, the jury's probably been on the prosecution side

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 2>from the start. And I remain today as I was

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, with the opinion that while he shouldn't

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>be he's likely to be convicted. And if I have

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>to put my money on one or the other, I say,

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:11.879
<v Speaker 2>you will be.

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Now again, maybe I'm off in pixie land here, But

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 3>they haven't proven the case. They truly have not proven

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the case. Now, yes, there are two dots that are

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 3>kind of near each other, but nobody has been able

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 3>to successfully say Trump knew how this was going to

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 3>be accounted for, and that is the charge. Surely there's

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 3>someone on that jury who, as much as they may

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 3>hate Donald Trump, has seen the case has not been proven.

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that Trump ever stood a chance here.

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I really don't. I mean, I see why some people

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>think there could be a hung jury, because you never know.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's one guy on there who says, I'm not

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 2>going to do it. But all of this Tea Leave

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 2>reading is playing the odds, and the odds are that

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 2>this is a jury that is overwhelmingly part of and

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:05.479
<v Speaker 2>that hates Donald Trump, not just like, eh, he wasn't

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 2>my favorite president, you know, the feelings that Trump can

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>engender in some people. And liberal Democrats in New York

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>are amongst the most partisan. They are not like normy

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Democrats in the middle of America who are registered Democrat

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>because they think the Democrat Party is going to take

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 2>better care of them than the Republicans will.

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 10>But they're not hard partisans.

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Most New Yorkers are very politically astute and steeped in

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the news and that they all read the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 2>so they have been manipulated emotionally and intellectually for the

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<v Speaker 2>better part of their adulthood, if they're like your typical

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<v Speaker 2>New Yorker in New York City, Manhattan went eighty seven

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<v Speaker 2>percent for Joe Biden eighty seven percent. Maybe they found

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<v Speaker 2>one of the thirteen percent. Maybe they found the one

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<v Speaker 2>who's gonna say eh, but I doubt it. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that he stands no chance. He stands a ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent chance of getting such a person on his jury.

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<v Speaker 10>I guess around ten.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's going to happen now, Paul, is that this

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<v Speaker 2>judge is going to craft jury instructions that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to even with that one person who might be over there,

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<v Speaker 2>lead them right our here to the water drink Coursey drink.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, it's me the judge telling.

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<v Speaker 2>You that this is the very very low legal standard

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to pass in order to convict him.

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<v Speaker 2>And so those jury instructions have never been more important

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<v Speaker 2>than in this case because it's a complex case, and

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<v Speaker 2>the judge kept out the elections expert who could have

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<v Speaker 2>explained to them what is a campaign expenditure? Would a

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<v Speaker 2>hush money payment to a porn star count as one,

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<v Speaker 2>and if so, could Trump have paid for it out

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<v Speaker 2>of his campaign Coffers why wouldn't we take expert testimony

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Well, it didn't happen. The jury's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be confused, and the judge their daddy, is going to

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<v Speaker 2>confuse or going to clear it up for them in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that will only be helpful to team prosecution.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's imagine he's found guilty.

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<v Speaker 3>There's even a chance of him being immediately sentenced the

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<v Speaker 3>appeals process. A lot of people say that the unfairness

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<v Speaker 3>of the way that the judge has been dealing things,

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<v Speaker 3>including keeping away from the court a person who would

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<v Speaker 3>be able to say this is not a crime and

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<v Speaker 3>explain why they used to work for the Electoral Commission

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<v Speaker 3>in the United States. So is the appeal going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the only way Trump's going to get a fair

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<v Speaker 3>crack heat?

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<v Speaker 2>Those things will be grounds for appeal and they will

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<v Speaker 2>be successful. There's no way the appellate courts are going

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<v Speaker 2>to uphold this verdict if it's a guilty verdict.

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<v Speaker 10>I zero chance. There's just no way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe the immediate appellate court will uphold it,

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<v Speaker 2>but will eventually go up to New York State's highest court,

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<v Speaker 2>the Court of Appeals, which.

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<v Speaker 10>Is still a rational body.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the ones who just struck down the conviction against

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<v Speaker 2>Harvey Weinstein for very good reasons, so they're not completely irrational,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I'm sure they all hate Trump too. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>do Trump any good. That'll all help happen well after

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<v Speaker 2>the election. It's kind of irrelevant at this point, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats know that. That's why in this case and

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<v Speaker 2>all the others, they're keeping the pedal down to the medal.

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<v Speaker 2>They have plans to make sure this case gets dried

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<v Speaker 2>before the election, and we hear from a source close

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<v Speaker 2>to the j six federal trial that they have a

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<v Speaker 2>plan to get that case going at least before he

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<v Speaker 2>takes office.

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<v Speaker 10>If he wins.

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<v Speaker 2>That the goal would be even if he wins in November,

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<v Speaker 2>try the case against him anyway, even as the president elect,

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<v Speaker 2>and see if you can stop the certification of the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>On January sixth of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Rock Style. Look forward to saying you again.

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<v Speaker 10>Next way, all right, Paul, thanks for having me, Thanks very.

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<v Speaker 3>Much for watching the losers of the wait. Next way

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<v Speaker 3>we will discuss. We will also look forward to parks

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday. But right now here is the light to

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<v Speaker 3>mind