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Speaker 1: This.

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Speaker 2: Here's a fitzy whipper.

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Speaker 3: In k podcasts, a lot of people have been talking

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Speaker 3: about the nineties throwback. What was I like in the nineties?

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Speaker 3: Great social media play. This song has been featuring a lot.

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Speaker 3: Now I know what's one of your favorites.

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Speaker 1: Iris is one of the greatest sing along songs of

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Speaker 1: all time. Is there's a story behind it and how

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Speaker 1: it came together, and we thought this is a perfect

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Speaker 1: opportunity to share it with you. We'll um backs again

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Speaker 1: love scene.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of senses this song.

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Speaker 1: To be well, it's not a brand new song. It's

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Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety eight. It's from the soundtrack of a

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Speaker 1: movie called City of Angels. I'm talking about Goo Goo

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Speaker 1: Dolls Iris this scene. Who's any movie man, Okay, Nicholas

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Speaker 1: Cage mcbrian, Yes, Now this is an unbeliever. I've got

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Speaker 1: to get through this. There's a great podcast called song

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Speaker 1: Exploit It Now I've got it off this because this

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Speaker 1: is fascinating how this song came together. The lead singer

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Speaker 1: is John Resnick is his name, and John Resnick was

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Speaker 1: having writer's block whip couldn't come up with a song

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Speaker 1: months and months, and then Warner Brothers approached him to

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Speaker 1: write a song for this new movie. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen City of Angels, this is what he was asked

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Speaker 1: to write a song about.

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Speaker 2: So it's the story about this angel who has immortality,

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Speaker 2: but he's lonely and he sees this woman and he

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Speaker 2: just wants to know what it feels like to feel

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Speaker 2: what all these humans are feeling, because he's just going

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Speaker 2: around watching them, and so he makes this leap and

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Speaker 2: he gives up his immortality for her for love.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you're struggling to write, right and they're

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Speaker 1: paying you a lot of money Warner Brothers to write

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Speaker 1: this song, I mean, he's freaking out, going what do

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Speaker 1: I do? Where do you start?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 1: How do you start a song like that?

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Speaker 2: I thought, where am I going to rate this from?

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, what would I say? What would

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Speaker 2: I say to that woman? I had a guitar, and

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Speaker 2: because I D tuned and used alternate tunings, I'd gone

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Speaker 2: a little too far and I popped two strings off

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Speaker 2: the guitar. So I had four strings on this guitar left,

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Speaker 2: and I detuned the low e to a B, the

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Speaker 2: other three strings to d's yeah and I'm just playing

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Speaker 2: and I'm just running this like basically the shape of

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Speaker 2: a power chore, but very simple.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is the fascinating bit with this is

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Speaker 1: this is what blows my mind because you know, he

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Speaker 1: likes to riff and he likes to put his songs together.

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Speaker 1: When he impersonates other artists, it gets it gives him inspiration.

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Speaker 1: This this bit blow in my mind.

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Speaker 2: I do this when I read songs. I'll be like,

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Speaker 2: you know, when people do their impersonation of Bob Dylan

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Speaker 2: was like this about this long, you know. So that's

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Speaker 2: how I get melodies. And I always find melody first,

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Speaker 2: what sits on top of the chords and what does

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Speaker 2: it make you feel? And then sometimes a word will

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Speaker 2: come out. You're sitting there going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I don't to be like, ah, don't to be

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Speaker 2: like I don't want to and I don't let's see

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Speaker 2: me because I don't think they understand wheverything's made have

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Speaker 2: bit broken.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to know that is he's just

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Speaker 1: done that on the spot, just mucking around by bringing

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Speaker 1: this producer, Rob Cavalla is he's name, and then Rob

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Speaker 1: starts introducing elements to the song.

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Speaker 2: Who's playing that mandolin. That's Tim Piers Player, one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest session players in the history of recorded music,

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Speaker 2: on the mandolin. Do you know whose idea it was

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Speaker 2: to bring him in? This is where Rob turned us

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Speaker 2: on to some crazy stuff.

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Speaker 1: So then then Rob goes, why don't we bring in

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Speaker 1: some strings? Why don't I bring in a violin and

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Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff and a bit of a

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Speaker 1: and the hit. They're like, no, that's not the Goo

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Speaker 1: Goo Dolls. So they were strongly against it. They didn't

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Speaker 1: want to bring in a string section, and Rob said,

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Speaker 1: can you just hear it? And this is the first

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Speaker 1: time that they heard it.

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Speaker 2: And when they came out and started playing, Robby and

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Speaker 2: I were like, uh oh, uh oh, it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, you know, if we do this,

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Speaker 2: it's no going back to what we were doing. And

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Speaker 2: He's like yeah, And then we were both like, let

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Speaker 2: us do it.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? You know that song? It wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't have come together if it wasn't on a

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Speaker 1: soundtrack and it wasn't sponsored by Warner Brothers, because Goo

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Speaker 1: Goo Dolls would have put together that first demo and

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have had Rob Cavalo there going well you

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Speaker 1: need a mandolin and you need a string section, and

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Speaker 1: it made it into the song that it is. It's

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Speaker 1: had four billion streams.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the other thing. When they look at the

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Speaker 3: back catalog. Can you name it other Googo Dolls song?

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Speaker 3: You know they said there's no going back after this. Well,

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Speaker 3: you're only way is forward. I would have.

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Speaker 1: Thought about it, and it's you know what, They're still touring.

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Speaker 1: They have to play Iris eight times, but it's an

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Speaker 1: amazing song.

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