1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Careers over since you did this in the he said, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: you know this is a fake. Richard R. W. Would 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: never be seen in baggy jeans like that. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: For those listening at home, Richard exclusively wears jeans so 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: type that leggings. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, you know, when you've got legs like that, it's 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: a good way to ensure that there's no more Wilkins children. 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Hi, and welcome to separate bathrooms. We would like to 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: acknowledge the Gadigal people of the e Or nation, the 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: traditional custodians of this land, and pay our respects to 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: the eldest, both past and present. I'm Cam Daddo, I'm 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: Ali Daddo. We are the Dados and you and us 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: collectively what we're in for a treat today. 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 5: Obviously we're a relationship podcast, you know that. And we've 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 5: been really fortunate to speak with people in all sorts 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 5: of relationships and about relationships and how to be better 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: in relationships. 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: So as far as people in relationships go, we've had 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: all manner of lovers and marriads, working relationships friendships. Today 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: is a first a father son relationship. 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, chances are you will know them. We're really really 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 5: excited to have them on It's Ozzie TV icon. Richard 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 5: Wilkins and his fabulous son Christian. 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: Rich has been in the industry for over four decades. 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: He's interviewed the world's biggest movie TV music stars. He's 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: an author and weekend announcer on the top rating FM 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: station Smooth, A little Bit. 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 5: Familiar, a little Bit and his son Christian is making 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 5: his way very nicely too. He's been acting and MCing. 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 5: He's made a major run at the Mirror Ball Trophy 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 5: in Dancing with the Stars and worked his way into 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 5: the hearts of Australians when he participated in the SBS 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: Dooco Fealthy, Rich and Homeless. 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: He's charitable, he's passion and building a reputation as one 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: of Australia's most well connected, informed and well liked individuals. Together, 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: they're hosting a brand new podcast called The Apple and 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: the Tree. 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 5: Maybe we'll find out who is the apple and who 40 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 5: is the tree. Please welcome Richard and Christian Welkins. 41 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: Welcome men to the bathroom. 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Hi, Christian, Butler's in here. I 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: love that. 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: Gorgeous special stuff. 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: You are our first father and son relationship, so a 46 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: good thing. It is a great thing. 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 4: We don't have to ask how you met and proposed 48 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 4: he was in the hospital love at first sight. 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: Was he there when you were born? 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Were you there when. 51 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: Christian was born? 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: I was there when he was born. Yeah, it's funny. 53 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: He said something quite deep the other days, said, you know, 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: I've known you for all my life, but you've only 55 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: known me for the last twenty nine years, which is 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: quite amazing. 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: That is right. 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of weird to think of your parents having 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: a life before here Like now, I'm obviously the center 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: of his universe, but I just assumed that it was 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: always that way. 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: Good luck with that. 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: You're always just the dream that he was having and 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 5: you arrived. That's what I tell about my kids. It 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 5: was like you were the sparkle in my eye before 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 5: you were born. 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: You're always there. 68 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: He often walks into a room and introduces himself to people, 69 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: say Hey, I'm Christian. I'm Richard's favorite child. I don't 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: know if you're so so not, Well, you did it 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: my my dad. 72 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: My dad had a great ada. It is untrue, by 73 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: the way, So my dad had a wonderful answer to body. 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: Our youngest daughter, because she said to him, Parpy, I'm 75 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: your favorite granddaughter, and Parpy said, well, body, if you're 76 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: in front of me right now, you are my favorite granddaughter. 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 5: Yeah. 78 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: There's eleven grades, eleven of them, and. 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: He makes them all feel like he's their favorite. Yeah, 80 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: they are their favorite. Well, Christian, you mentioned that you 81 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: know about your dad and knowing well that he had 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: a life before you were born. How was it growing 83 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: up with a famous dad. 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: I always loved it because I always had that like 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: entertainer inside of me too, and I always found what 86 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: he did so exciting and I love following him around 87 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: and he'd be like, do you want to come to 88 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: this like Kate Hudson premiere, And I'm like seven years 89 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm like yes, like adult things that I would have 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: no real interest in, But I just I was always 91 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: so inspired by him, and I loved the fact that 92 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: he loved what he did so much, and that really 93 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: motivated me to do the same thing with myself. 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 5: Did you know that Christian was going to head into 95 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 5: the entertainment industry early? 96 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: I think so because he's very talented and he's very 97 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: He was always interested in the business and knows more 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: now about social media and about everything to do with 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: it with the business. You know, he's like a little 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: Wikipedia or a Google there. You know, he knows so 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: much about so much of the business. But I think, yeah, 102 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: he was always very theatrical when he was a youngster, 103 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: and I did used to drag him off to things. 104 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: But you know, if he was with me and I 105 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: had to go to London for a Harry Potter premiere 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: or something, or to do some interviews, you know, I 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: use up some points and take him along with me 108 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: sort of things. Many many, many many times, right. 109 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 5: Were your mates or jealous of you that you were 110 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 5: able to go do that, go meet Daniel Radcliffe? 111 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: And yes or not? 112 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: I feel like I was good at sharing the good 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: times around. But I also think I was so grateful 114 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: and had so much like admiration for Dad getting to 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: do this that I think people just kind of liked 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: the positivity that came with it, you know, Like I'd 117 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: like to think that I was never kind of like 118 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: a snotty, arrogant kid that was kind of bragging about it. 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: It was always sort of in a very genuine, loving place. 120 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 121 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: Of course, was there a moment, Christian where you realized 122 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: that maybe your dad was not like the other dads 123 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: at your school. 124 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: I remember being in kindergarten and someone coming out to 125 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: me and being like talking to me a lot because 126 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: my dad was on the Today Show, and like, obviously 127 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: I knew that, but that was just like what my 128 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: dad did. And I like went and told my older 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: sister and she was like, well, you should have seen 130 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: what it was like in the nineties when he was 131 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: on MTV, because that was crazy. And I was like, oh, 132 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 2: maybe this thing is not like the other. 133 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 5: Do you have a favorite memory together? Is there something 134 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: that out of your childhood or when Christian was little 135 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 5: that or younger. Maybe it was you know last week. 136 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 5: Is there a favorite memory that you have with each other? 137 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: We've spent so much time together. Yeah, you know, we 138 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: really have. It's hard to isolate any one thing. I 139 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: think we've become incredibly close because we've just spent so 140 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: much time together. You know, he moved into to my 141 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: place when he was at school. His mum and I 142 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: used to you know, we never argued because we both 143 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: wanted him all the time. But you know, he's lived 144 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: under my roof from the age oild were. I think 145 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: when you moved in seventeen something like that full time, 146 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: but always stayed, you know, the house, So we've become 147 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: very very very close love it. I don't know, is 148 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: there any thing that stands tall? Probably straveling around, I 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: don't know. 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we were planning a big family holiday 151 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: last year and it kind of got a little railroad 152 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: some other things, but Dad and I ended up going 153 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: and spending a couple days in Santorini and then going 154 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: to Sweden for a friend's wedding. And there was one night, 155 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: I think it was our last night in Santorini, where 156 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: I just ran down to the local stock, got some 157 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: euros and we just sat watching the sunset playing Jim Rummy, 158 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: and that was a pretty beautiful moment. 159 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we got on a plane the next day 160 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: and flew from Santorini to Finland and then flew again 161 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: to Oslo, rented a car and went to his best 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: friend's wedding in Sweden, which was quite the trip, just 163 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: him and I hanging out, trying to work out, trying 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: to work out how to plug in the bloody electric 165 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: car over that that was my favorite moment of the trip. 166 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: Can I ask you, Richard, you know, as you know 167 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: we're both in the entertainment business. I spent a lot 168 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: of time away from home. It was always a challenge 169 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: for me to stay present in the kids' lives when 170 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: I was away. How did you do that? How have 171 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: you done that through your life? Well, I've got to 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: touch wood because the kids are all so wonderful and 173 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: we have fantastic relationships with each other and them with 174 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: each other and all that stuff. So something worked along 175 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: the way. And even if I was away, I would 176 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: always talk to the kids every day. I would always 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: make a point of ringing, even if I'm in LA 178 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: for a week or New York or something, always try 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: and wring them on their time, just to even if 180 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: it was just a thirty second conversation, how I'm thinking 181 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: of your how's everything? 182 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: How did the exam go? And just love, you know, 183 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: and when you are together, just giving them the time, 184 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, really just connecting. I think that's not a secret, 185 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: but that's I hope what I've done along the way. 186 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: Just really invest in the relationship and in them, be 187 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: interested in their lives and generous and loving and caring. 188 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: It's clearly worked. Yeah, definitely, Well it's not there yet, 189 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: still worked a bit. 190 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 4: It's always a work in progress. 191 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, where we're constantly working without older kids as well, 192 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 5: like you're still parenting them, you're still working on the 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 5: changes in their relationship. Like that just sort of never 194 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: gets put down in a way, you know what I mean. 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: Like how do you connect when you're away with the kids. Yeah. 196 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: Well, again, Alice helped me a lot, especially when they 197 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: were little, little kids, because I worked was working on 198 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: the other side of the country. I was in Toronto 199 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: a lot. I spent a lot of time in Canada 200 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: working in al was with the kids in Los Angeles, 201 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: so she had pictures of. 202 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: Me on the fridge. 203 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: I would call when I could. It's difficult if you're 204 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: on set and there's set hours and they're on LA 205 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: time and it was just all messed up. So but 206 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: there was one thing that I did do when they 207 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: were young, and that was I traced my hand on 208 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: a piece of paper and I'd send that for facts, 209 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: that paper through back in the day, but I'd send 210 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: the paper through with my hand and they would color 211 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: it in. That was that was one thing. And then 212 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: books on tape. I'd read, read the book and send 213 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: the cassette tape with the book. 214 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 215 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: But the funny thing was one time I came home 216 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: and I said to Ali, where's Lolo? And she said, 217 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: she's in her room and I stood out. The door 218 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: was closed, and I stood outside the door, and I 219 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: could hear my voice and if she was listening to 220 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: the tape and reading the book. And I knock on 221 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: the door and I said, hey, Lola, and she said, 222 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: not yet til she was finished. 223 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: That's beautiful, beautiful I did was ring them? You did 224 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: all that stuff. 225 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: Well, sometimes I couldn't ring them though, And I'm having 226 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: a bit of like right now when you said I 227 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: rang them every day, I didn't do that every I 228 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: couldn't do it every day. And sometimes I go, I 229 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: just I'm so deep in my own whatever, you know, 230 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: actory stuff that sometimes I didn't ring every day. And 231 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: and I think, I see how it's worked with you two, 232 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: the relationship you have, and I know that. Like I've 233 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: just gotten back from overseas and I haven't spoken to 234 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: River yet. You know, I've been back a couple of 235 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: days and I haven't spoken to him in probably a 236 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: week and a half, and I'm like, oh, I want to, 237 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: you know, And it hasn't wrung me either. So I'm like, 238 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: I want to ring me, but I realized that I 239 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 3: have to. If I want it, I've got to take 240 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 3: the action of course. 241 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've seeing you two interact together. You might 242 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: be talking about separate bathrooms, but you really are best friends, 243 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: aren't you. 244 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 245 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have bathrooms? 246 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, currently bathroom. It's nice. 247 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: We've not had it many a time we've not had it, 248 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 5: and it's much better for the relationship. 249 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely being able to take your time as you get ready, 250 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: like I want my little makeup, count of my little beauty, 251 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: count of. 252 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: Nasty smells, no nasty smells. But also it's nice to 253 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: have that that bit of mystique. 254 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: I had to. 255 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 5: Teach you that because you were always about like. 256 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: Just poe in front of men't mind. I'm like, I'm 257 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: not going to do that. I don't want to. 258 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: I said those words. 259 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't care. So I grew up. I grew up 260 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: in a he just poo in front of me, just 261 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: pooh in front of me. 262 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: I don't know that was. 263 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 3: Might have meant that, but but my brothers and I 264 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: we had because there were so many kids in our 265 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: house growing up. In order to get through the routine 266 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: of the morning had to be sitting on the duney 267 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: one was shaving and one was one was showering and 268 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: the other one was each other off cycle through the 269 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 3: bathroom like that. 270 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: So not all a be cycling through the bathroom. 271 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: No, but that's the way it was. 272 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: It was like it was like a locker room. Yeah, 273 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: and so it didn't My sister had her own place. 274 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure that I won't want you to 275 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: put in front of him. I don't know that is important. 276 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: Speaking of podcasts, how whose idea was it to come 277 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 5: up with the podcast that you too have launched, The 278 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 5: Apple and the Tree? 279 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: Whose idea? How did it come about? 280 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 281 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: Why? 282 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: I love working with Dadda. 283 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: I personally present company excluded think that he is, you know, 284 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: the best in the business. And it's any opportunity that 285 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,599 Speaker 2: you get to work with someone that's not only incredible 286 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: in their field and you can learn from, but also 287 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: someone that you genuinely enjoy spending the time with, that's 288 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: an amazing opportunity that you know, very rarely comes up. 289 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: And I wanted to create something that we could do together, 290 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: and I really wanted to create as well, like an 291 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: opportunity for Dad to be seen in a different platform 292 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: as well, because I think that he is so incredible 293 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: at what he does and he should be seen and 294 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: heard by as many people and be recognized for that. 295 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: And it's you know, it's kind of a combination lux 296 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: of situation that we've been able to do it all. 297 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was the actors and writers' strikes going on, 298 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: so you know, he moved to LA a week before 299 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: the writer's strikes started, so yeah, timing was everything there. 300 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: So you know, it's become a passion project that's really 301 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: done well, is doing well, and it's open ended. 302 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 4: We love it's really doing well. 303 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: And the fact that you to get to still like 304 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 5: you're in separate countries, but you're getting to see each 305 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: other and interact each other. I'm sure that's a beautiful 306 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 5: way to keep in contact as well. 307 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: It's very cool. Yeah, we did the first few at home, 308 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: which is we both love working at home. I do 309 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: as much as I possibly can. 310 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: There despite appearances, we're both actually introvert, so we love 311 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: to be. 312 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: Like, oh what if we did this at home? Yeah, 313 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, staying at home is a pretty good option. 314 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Mixing it out there in the mean streets wherever you are. 315 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this idea of I hate to say 316 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: it because the word has been used for me and 317 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: my brothers. It's like a reverse nepotism happening with you guys, 318 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: but the Christians actually come up with an idea on 319 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: how to involve his. 320 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Dad in a job situation. 321 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: But I do understand that you guys or Christian you 322 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: particularly have a thought about that word nepotism. 323 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's I find it a kind of 324 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: funny word. I find it this people label it like 325 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: it's this big slight. Personally, I'm like, if I'm a 326 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: nepo baby, which I a Napo baby, it's you know, 327 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: it's and I fully acknowledge that. You know, dud was 328 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: in the industry and definitely helped me get my start 329 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: and get sort of awareness, and people were interested in 330 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: me because I was going to stuff with ad. But 331 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: I'd also like to say that I would like a 332 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: bit of a napper baby refund because they also want 333 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: to be like a Burbery model or like a Kardashian. 334 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Ideally, please, I'm a neo data now. 335 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm a daddo, But. 336 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 5: You would have liked Kate Master have been your mom, 337 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: and ye. 338 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: Can Kardashian be my sister, you know, like or like 339 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Dennis Quaid's incredible son who's in the Boys, you know, 340 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: like one of those things would have been ripped off. Sweet, 341 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: but I'm doing pretty okay. 342 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: They never use that term though. If your dad's a 343 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: plumber and your son becomes a plumber, they never go, 344 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 5: oh you nepo baby, look at you getting into the 345 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: same industry. Like it never sort of crosses into that. 346 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 4: Sort of world. 347 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: But why wouldn't you want to help your kids? 348 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: Exactly? Absolutely your siblings, you know. It's like anybody's like, 349 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: you want to you want to do that? Let me 350 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: see what I can do? Of course, of course. 351 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, if that, if that's the 352 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: worse that they can really say, than whatever. It's I'm 353 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: proud to be Dad's son, and at the end of 354 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: the day, I'd like to think at least that I'm 355 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: sort of proving what I can do myself as well. 356 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can help someone or teach them how 357 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: to knock on a door, but. 358 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: He's got to walk through it and. 359 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: Be charming on the other side of it, you know. 360 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: And I've got jazz hands. 361 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 5: How do you find trolling, and you know what is 362 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 5: the best way that you found that you deal with them. 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: I like to go back with indifference or agreeing. Like 364 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: one time someone told me that I should audition for 365 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: the Muppets because I had a big nose. And then 366 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: I tagged my manager and I was like, I'm going 367 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: to fire you. This man's out here trying to get 368 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: me jobs. What are you doing? 369 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Like, like, where else do they go with that? Then? 370 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: Like, if you start agreeing to be honest, it's I 371 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: feel like, at least at this stage in my life, 372 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: I have a pretty good sense of self and I 373 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: like me, and I feel like you can't really water a. 374 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: Seed that isn't there. Yeah, so yeah, whatever, And don't 375 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: read the comments ever, you know, I mean, people go 376 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: down rabbit holes, said, but people go down rabbit holes 377 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: and get you know, we all know people who How 378 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: do you guys deal with the comments? 379 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 5: My favorite thing is block and delete, Like they're my 380 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 5: two favorite things. Is just I've clapped back a couple 381 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 5: of times and it's never gone well, so it's just 382 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 5: it's just delete, block, delete block. 383 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: They're my favorites. 384 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I reckon James Blunt sets a good example, I was 385 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: going to mention him, you know, James Blunt has no 386 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: talent and no good songs, and he'll come back and 387 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: say and no mortgage. Like indifference is fantastic humor. 388 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 4: I love that. 389 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 5: I know I don't sometimes I just don't have the 390 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: wherewithal to do that. I've clapped back on some of 391 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 5: the trolling that can scott those boxes. 392 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: That's actually upset me more. 393 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: When they when they attack your family, it does help 394 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: much more. 395 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, and then it's harder to be indifferent than 396 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 4: and I. 397 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: Just like, I can't imagine anybody trashing Richard Wilkins. 398 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: Just people that are jealous of his hair. 399 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: What ahead of hair? 400 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: You've both come on readable those things of me being 401 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: arrested in parks and things all around the world, which 402 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: is career is over since he did this, and then 403 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: he came up with the best thing could he's he 404 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: put one up somewhere and said, you know, this is 405 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: a fake Richard R. W would never be seen in 406 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: baggy jeans like that, which. 407 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: Of those listening at home, Richard exclusively wears tape that leggings. 408 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: Well, you know, when you've got legs like this, children. 409 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 5: That Yeah, and Christian, you have been so beautiful and 410 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 5: vulnerable and open about being bullied in your earlier years. 411 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 5: And I know again you know, talking about when someone 412 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: that you love is being attacked in some way. I 413 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 5: guess the question for you is, actually, Richard, how was that? 414 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 5: Did you know that that was happening? And how did 415 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 5: you feel? 416 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: No? 417 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't so aware of him being bullied at school, 418 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: like physically bullied. I remember coming home from work one 419 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: day when he was there and telling him about an 420 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: article in the paper about him being the spoilt little 421 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: whatever who'd gone along to a function that I was hosting, 422 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: the Mother of All Boars, with Brian Brown and Rachel 423 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: Watt and their kids, and one of the Gospel columnists 424 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: wrote this hideous article and it broke my heart. Yeah, 425 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't want him to hear about it from 426 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: anybody else. So, sitting on the end of his bed, 427 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: I was disgusted by that, because that really is bullying public. 428 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 4: And picking on children. 429 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: So how did how did you? How did you do that? 430 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: What did you say to Christian in that moment? I 431 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: started from telling him about it. 432 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm sorry. There's a horrible piece in the 433 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: paper today, but I want to tell you about it. 434 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Do you want me to read it to you or 435 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: I just want to ignore it? He's I can't even 436 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: remember where we went from them. But you know, I 437 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think you read it to me. I don't know 438 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: if I needed to be read it. Well, whatever I 439 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: think I read it, I wanted you to be aware. Yeah, 440 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: so that's pretty awful. You hate seeing you know, people 441 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: you love, you know, child or anybody being treated badly. 442 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: It's just as simple as that. And for a person 443 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: to attack a kid in such a public forum, I 444 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: think I just hated that pretty much. But I wasn't 445 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: aware of what was going on at school. I think 446 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: he pretty much kept that to yourself, didn't you know? 447 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I told mum because I guess teachers knew. 448 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: I think it's just I think it's sometimes easy to 449 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: actually forget how far we've come in quite a short 450 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: period of time. You know, I'm only twenty nine, and 451 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: sure we have lots of representation and diversity now, and 452 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: it's you know, people are very encouraging and they're very 453 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: aware of the language that they use. But still, when 454 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: I was in you know, year three or four, I 455 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: remember girls teasing me and telling me that I was gay, 456 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: And you know, that's at an age that I knew that 457 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: I was different, but I didn't necessarily know why I 458 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: was different. And it's definitely far beyond any sort of 459 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: sexual feelings develop and you know, it's still being pointed 460 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: out that you are different because of this thing. It's 461 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: it definitely that planted a seed for a while, you know, 462 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: and it's kind of plants that seed of you're wrong 463 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: for this reason and that's a bad thing. And I 464 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: think that that kind of often develops in a lot 465 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: of queer people to be a sort of self hating 466 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 2: thing because that's what they're told as kids. 467 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: And how do you think you've evolved that or how 468 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: did you evolve that? Because clearly that's you don't seem 469 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 3: to lack confidence or value in yourself. 470 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: I definitely think a large part of it is my 471 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: family and my parents. You know, they always very much 472 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: encouraged me to be whoever I wanted to be. The 473 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: conversation was always very open. I never needed to come out, 474 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: I never needed there was never this straight until proven 475 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: otherwise kind of mentality. And because they gave me space 476 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: to sort of explore who I was, and small things 477 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: like dyeing my hair and wearing different clothes and stuff 478 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 2: like that without question or judgment kind of allowed me 479 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: to resettle my feelings and kind of discover who I was. 480 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: And I'm forever very grateful for that. We just let 481 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 2: him be who he is and what a great result. 482 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right. We talk a lot about 483 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 4: our son and very similar mind. 484 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 5: He's a beefcake now, you know, in short shirts, loves gym, 485 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 5: But when he was a little boy, like he just 486 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: really loved to wear women, his sister's clothing, and was 487 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: if it was Halloween, it was Lady Gaga, it was 488 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 5: the Good Witch of the North, like he always chose. 489 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: The West. 490 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: He did hang out all love him. 491 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: He's awesome. 492 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 5: But what I remember so vividly is, you know, someone 493 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 5: asked him he had this big twirly skirt that he 494 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 5: loved to wear, and someone said, why why are you 495 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 5: wearing that? Reven He goes, because it just feels so 496 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 5: good on my legs, and I went, yeah, like that 497 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: makes so much sense to me, Like why can't he 498 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 5: wear this? You know, not that he didn't. We never ever, 499 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: ever said no to any of that. And you know, 500 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 5: and my mum and dad God loved them. They just 501 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 5: thought it was delightful. And you know, they take him 502 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 5: shopping at the costume store and it was straight. 503 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: To the princess, to the princess outfit. 504 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: It fells outfit, yeah, just better like it was just yeah. 505 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: And I think that's really huge to hear. 506 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: That he was very fond of. Really are the best 507 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: to dress up in and the scotsmen have been doing 508 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: it for centuries. 509 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: Yes, and they're as sexy as Helen. That is kill. 510 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: You went on that family trip to. 511 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: Dudes in their To me, it was more about the pipes. 512 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: What's Richard? Give us an idea of some of the 513 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: things that you've you've learned from Christian. 514 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: Wow, I've learned a lot about myself from watching the 515 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: way he operates. I mean, even with our podcast as 516 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: recently as the last few weeks hearing him. He's just 517 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: got such an open, inquiring mind which I just admire, 518 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: and his sense of humor is second to none. I've 519 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: learned how to be a good friend. He is the 520 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: most wonderful friend to his friends, who are mainly mainly 521 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: girls he went to school with who were such a 522 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: great bunch. He got lucky there. He's a very very 523 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: good friend. He's very generous, he's very carrying, he's a 524 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: very good cook. I've learned the value of family, I 525 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: think through my kids, you know, because when they're born, 526 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: as you know, this whole set of emotions develops or 527 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: tears that you didn't know you were capable of. Yeah, 528 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: I agree with that, And suddenly you're not so selfish anymore, 529 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: and there are other people to care for and look 530 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: after and nurture and protect and advise and teach. So 531 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I've learned to be a better person. 532 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: My parents were beautiful people. I never saw them have 533 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: a fight. I never saw them have a cuddle either. 534 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was very It. 535 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: Was a very straight You talked about sending things in 536 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: the mail. My dad used to send me when I 537 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: was at boarding school. He used to send me letters 538 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: with long division on them. There was no dear rich 539 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: or anything. It was just long division to practice practice. 540 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 3: I guess that's the way. He just making sure you 541 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 3: knew how to add up all the numbers of all 542 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 3: the money you're going to make it down the line. 543 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: So it was kind of it wasn't tough love, but 544 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: it was just sort of strict sort of love. But 545 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: they were really good people. And I've often said I 546 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: want to be more like my dad because he was 547 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: just a just a good, decent person. 548 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: So that's what I don't send me long division though, please, Yeah, I've. 549 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: Already posted it there. I want to be a better 550 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: make myself a better person all the time, to be 551 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: when I fall off the perch. You know, I'd like 552 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: people just to say he was a great guy. 553 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure they will. 554 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure they do it. I know they do already. 555 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you're talking to That's the same for everyone. 556 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 5: For you, Christian, is there anything an equality in your 557 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 5: dad that you hope to emulate? Yeah. 558 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 2: I think from both my parents, I've learned the value 559 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: of authenticity and being genuine to who you are. I 560 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 2: feel like both of them are very unapologetic in their existence, 561 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: and I think that that's a wonderful way to be. 562 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: And I think that they're both extremely loving and they're 563 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: genuine with their love. You can I feel like you 564 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: can feel their love and the people that they love 565 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: around them, and I think that that's it's a beautiful 566 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: space to grow up in and I feel very grateful 567 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: for that. 568 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: It's nice. Thank you though you're welcome. 569 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 3: Is there a favorite way that you guys support each other. 570 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: I think we just show up for each other. Yeah. 571 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: It's just unconditional you know, yeah, can we do this? Yeah, 572 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: of course, let's go sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah, it's 573 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: just unconditional love. There's no secret to that. I don't think. 574 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: We just we're just there for each other totally. And 575 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: we almost have like a shorthand now where we can 576 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: be at a situation and something can happen and we 577 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: can look at each other and we both know exactly 578 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: what they are the ones thinking. I know one of 579 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: them is asking a question. 580 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, that's fine. Like it's there's so 581 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: much unspoken that I kind of I love that almost telepathic. 582 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 1: I know we'll go soon, I know. 583 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 584 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you just feel the energy come up towards you. 585 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 5: Is like, yeah, I have that with my eldest daughter. 586 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 5: She's been away for over a year now. But it's 587 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 5: I love that language where there's actually just an eye 588 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 5: roll or like you just say say one word and they. 589 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: Immediately get it. I love that. 590 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 3: It's so good now it's not just with Lotus, because 591 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: when I so, I've just come back from overseas and 592 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: and last night we're sitting there and body and you 593 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: shared an eye roll at each other, and I've caught 594 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: it and gone, what's that? What are you doing? 595 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: You? 596 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: I know? I was like, what have I forgotten. 597 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: About you? 598 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: What have I missed? And for both just goes Dad. 599 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, am I supposed to know that you're on holidays? 600 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Still? 601 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 5: Yes, we've told you a few times. 602 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: Yes, just remember stuff. 603 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: Then I have to write it down. 604 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Do you have to write it down? Yes? 605 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: I have a diary. Remember I have an old school diary. 606 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: I write it down in my diary. 607 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: And if it's not in the diary, it doesn't happen. 608 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you guys are twins. 609 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: Seriously, all I hear Itch is like, is cam go 610 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 5: is it in my diary? 611 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 612 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 5: I didn't read my diary. Where's my diary? Like it's 613 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 5: the running joke in the family. It's like, is it 614 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: in the diary? 615 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 4: Honey? Did you put it in the diary? 616 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 5: It's not in the diary, so yeah, it doesn't exist. 617 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: I do just exactly right, diary. 618 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: I can't believe it missed it. 619 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: I take my diary everywhere. 620 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: One of my girlfriends is a dialist at Channel nine 621 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: and she was trying to organize for dad to go 622 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: out and buy some new suits and stuff. And she's like, okay, 623 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: well you've organized the state. And I was like, did 624 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: you see him write it down? And she's like, no, 625 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: I didn't, And I was like, go back, get him 626 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: to write it down. Otherwise it's not happening exactly. 627 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: But the question is how many black suits can one 628 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: man own? 629 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point. We're going for a bit 630 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: of a cover. 631 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: Change, nice and trying to expand the horizons. 632 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: Right Ryan Gosling change, Well, not. 633 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: Quite as radical as Ryan, but you could rock a 634 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: Ryan though. We're going for some grays and light blues 635 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: and right dark blues. Color. 636 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: Mate, you got blue eyes? Well yeah, I quite like blue. 637 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: But you know, in the television world, when so much 638 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: of what you do is pre records and blah blah blah, 639 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: I just wear the same thing for continuity. So you 640 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: can throw it to an interview you did two weeks 641 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: ago and you're going to be wearing the same clubber smart. 642 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 5: See, what are some dreams or aspirations that you have 643 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 5: in the future, whether it's together or on your own. 644 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: I'm sure Christian, you've got some thing. Is that your 645 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: way over there in La I do? 646 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: I mean acting has always kind of been the goal, 647 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: and that's that's why I'm here. But things that I've 648 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: always wanted to do together. I've always wanted to host 649 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: an award show, ideally the Arias together. I'd love to 650 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: do that with data or even present something with data 651 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: the Arias, And I've always wanted to when I ideally 652 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: make it whatever that looks like, I've always wanted to 653 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: do it, like proper sit down interview with data. I 654 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: just think that would be so much fun. Well with 655 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: me interviewing you or you interviewing me. 656 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Oh you're interviewing me. I think now you like me 657 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: to interview? Yeah? Would you really? 658 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: I mean not now, I haven't got much to say. 659 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: I love that. 660 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be awesome, wouldn't it? There's Christian, how 661 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 5: was it you know when you one year Emmy or 662 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 5: what was. 663 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: It like getting up there and accepting your second Oscar? 664 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 665 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: Was it as satisfying as the first one? Stuff like 666 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: that exactly? 667 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: How about for you. 668 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: I mean, you've you've hit so many goals, it seems 669 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 5: is there more that you want? 670 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,239 Speaker 1: Oh look, part of me would have loved to go 671 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: to the States seriously and give it a crack as well, 672 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, But I became a parent at a fairly 673 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: early age, and coming to Australia was a big deal 674 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: at the time. I came here in nineteen eighty with 675 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: my little band. You know, part of me wishes I'd 676 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: kept going to la or London or something, but I 677 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: fell in love with this country and I can't imagine 678 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: living anywhere else now. But you know, I would have 679 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: loved have had a sliding doors opportunity to go over 680 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: there and see what would happen in the world. In fact, 681 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, when your brother started working at MTV, I 682 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: was hosting MTV here and I went over and did 683 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: some stuff in New York and they offered me a 684 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: job over there. At the time I was in nineteen 685 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: eighty seven, I said, I've only just started back in Australia, 686 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I can't come and live here anyway. 687 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: But I worked for I think two months or a 688 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: month or six weeks or something. Over the Christmas break 689 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: when all their regular vjays were off, and I love that, 690 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: and I think they liked having an Aussie there and 691 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe part of the reason that your 692 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: brother got to start over there and did really well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 693 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: so I would have quite liked to have done that. 694 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Someone said to me the other day, what's your big regret, 695 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: And I said, well, I stopped writing songs, and then 696 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: they said, well, that's just a stupid thing to say, 697 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: because you can start again, you know, because I stopped. 698 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Some of them are getting quite good. But also in 699 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: recent times, I'm really looking forward to taking some more 700 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: time out for me and the family because I've always 701 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: worked so bloody hard. Yeah, never took holidays because you're 702 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: sort of protecting your patch of ground there. You don't 703 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: want a dato filling in for you because it might 704 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: be too bloody good. 705 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: So I've realized in the last seven years, so. 706 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: I want to spend more time, you know, and take 707 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: some more family holidays stuff like that. That's definitely on 708 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: the two do list. 709 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: Love that well. I mean, you've done an amazing job 710 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: throughout the years and so consistent, you know, and. 711 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: Might look that way. It doesn't necessarily feel like that 712 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: all the time. 713 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. It doesn't for it doesn't feel like that, 714 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: and I understand that though the truth of it is, 715 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: and the reality is is that you've been part of 716 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: the Australian landscape for forty years. 717 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: I know I've worked hard. I do know that consistently. Yeah, 718 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, work hard at doing a good job and 719 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: enjoying it. 720 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's excellent. 721 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: All right, guys. 722 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: We do a thing called a two minute shower. You 723 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 3: ever had a two minute shower? 724 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: Christian? 725 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 3: No, who spends more time looking after their hair? 726 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Him? Oh? Actually? Him? Oh come on, I washed my 727 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: hair last Wednesday. It stinks yuck. I watched it every 728 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: second day. Seat eager. 729 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 3: Okay, well, well, we do a two minute shower, so 730 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: it just basically means keep your answer short, if possible, 731 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: far away honey. 732 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 5: Okay, what's something that you love about yourself that you 733 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 5: wished more people noticed. 734 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 4: Or saw in you? 735 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: Long pause? 736 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: You finally came up with a question that shut us up. 737 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm smarter than people give me credit for. 738 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 4: Ah. 739 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, even yeah. I even said that to Dad when 740 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: we're on holidays. I was like, enough with the Christian 741 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: stupid jokes. Now, thank you. I don't think you're stupid, 742 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: silly thing. I think I wish people knew how much 743 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: I care about them sometimes. 744 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have a very very very kind heart. And 745 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 4: I don't know if people know that, if they only heart. 746 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you for that. Ali. 747 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 3: By the way, if they made a movie of your relationship, 748 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: what genre would it be and who would play you? 749 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: Romance? 750 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: And I want Laura down interesting choice. She's tall, she's lanky, 751 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: she's got weird movements, she is funny. 752 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 3: I did do a film with her, and she's funny, 753 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 3: funny lady. And she's right, she is very tall. 754 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always thought I'd like Whoopy Goldberg to play 755 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: me in a movie. 756 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 4: Okay, not my first choice, but. 757 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 3: Hey, what's the genre? 758 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: The genre would be a love story. 759 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: A love story between Laura Dern and Whoopy Goldberg. 760 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: Classic said in a Formula one motor racing circuit, it's 761 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: got oscar written all over. 762 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 3: It does directed by Rennie Harlan. 763 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 4: I said something directed by him the other day and 764 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: I was like, I know that. Note it was a really. 765 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 3: Bad film too, the Pirate movie. 766 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 4: No, he's done something recently. 767 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: I sho Cliffhanger was that him? 768 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 769 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 4: Better ones, wasn't it? Yesly a right, Sorry, the shower 770 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 4: is still running. Okay, last question? Can you describe each 771 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 4: other in one word? 772 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: Magnificent? Oh cute. 773 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 2: I'd say lover, but not in like a weird sexual 774 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: way and like a kind of like he spoke to 775 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 2: He's a big lover of people and has a big heart. 776 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: That's more than one will. That's okay, that's in the 777 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: world with an explanation. 778 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 3: Thank you Christian and Richard Wilkins. You are our first 779 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 3: father and son on this relationship. 780 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: Podcast, our favorite father and. 781 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: Our favorite fund. Thank you so much for being here 782 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 3: with us. 783 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: What a great chat. It's well, we've loved you so much. 784 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: I've loved it. If you loved it, Christian, I have, 785 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: I have. I can't see anyone I wish that I could, 786 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,919 Speaker 1: but and listener. 787 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: That's because Christian is in a studio in Los Angeles 788 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 3: living his best life and his dream and mate, go, well, yeah, thank. 789 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: You so much. I appreciate it. 790 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 5: What's just just quickly, what would be your absolute dream role? 791 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 3: Oh? 792 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: I love I would love to do something with Ryan Murphy. 793 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: I just think that his representation of diverse voices is 794 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: so spectacular and it inspired me when I was younger 795 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: and continues to do so, and the opportunity to work 796 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 2: with him would be a real dream come true. 797 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 4: Okay, it's out, it's out in the universe. 798 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 3: Maybe that's manifest that. Yeah, now go splash some water 799 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: in Santa Monica Bay over yourself down at ocean. 800 00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm making a splash. You go and wash your hair. Thanks, 801 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: thank you, love you guys, Thanks so much. 802 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: Did that surprise you in any way, shape or form. 803 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 5: I mean, I knew that they were fabulous, both of them. 804 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 5: There's just a warmth there that really comes across in person, 805 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 5: Like I said, you know, with Richard. But what didn't 806 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 5: surprise me is the love between the two of them 807 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 5: that comes across all the time to me, the way 808 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 5: Richard always talks about Christian and vice versa in the 809 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 5: public arenas, always with so much love and respect. So 810 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 5: that didn't surprise me. I love that about those two. 811 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't surprise me because I know them and 812 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 3: I've seen them together in Richard's house. I see how 813 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: they are, how they relate to each other, and how 814 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 3: supportive they are of each other. And as we sort 815 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: of talked about or we did talk about people don't 816 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 3: know he's firing questions. Mostly when we see him on 817 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 3: TV is just how lovely and warm he is. 818 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: That really comes across. 819 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 820 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: I love sitting with him at events, and that's when 821 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 3: we first started working together at Smooth. I didn't really 822 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 3: know Richard, but over ten years or more now working 823 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: together at Smooth and spending time with him, I always 824 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 3: look forward to seeing him and hanging out with him. 825 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 5: You know what did surprise me is when Christian said 826 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 5: that we're both introverts, and that always it's always amazing. 827 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 5: We're people in the public eye and often people who 828 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 5: are you know, Christian's very exuberant, and you know, to 829 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 5: say that he's an introvert, it's like Grant Danya. I 830 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 5: remember when we had him and Chezi on that He's like, 831 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 5: I am actually an introvert and like to be home 832 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 5: and be quiet, and you're like, wait, what you know? 833 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 5: And it's interesting when people have that. 834 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they're in public. They expand so much 835 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 3: energy and then that's got to be that yang to, 836 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 3: that yin and its need to recharge and I know 837 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: that or Richard's home is like a I was going 838 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: to say Fortnits is not a fortress, but it's like 839 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 3: a retreat and it's a beautiful retreat he has there 840 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 3: and he's really generous with that too, with his pals. Yeah, 841 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 3: so that's great. Father and sons love it. 842 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great relationship to explore it is. 843 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: We'll have something new and exciting for you on the 844 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: next episode of Separate father Rooms. 845 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening.