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Speaker 1: I'm sal and I'm now and this is too pro chicks,

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Speaker 3: This is the show that shares life lessons and tips

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Speaker 3: to me rich in life. And today we're doing a

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Speaker 3: part four of books to.

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Speaker 4: Read in your twenties because.

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Speaker 3: Bye, oh gosh, you chicks have been sliding into our

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Speaker 3: So Alan I will be sharing our fiction and non

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Speaker 3: fiction book corecs that we've read recently. But before we

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Speaker 3: get into it, should we start with what we're obsessed with?

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Speaker 2: With recession? What are you obsessed with? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I have so many obsessions this week it was really

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Speaker 1: hard to pick one because I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever feel like a plastic bag?

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Speaker 1: Finally, somebody said that like my for you page will

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Speaker 1: have like flop errors and then it'll have like this

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Speaker 1: it's like maybe fresh content or series I haven't seen before,

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Speaker 2: And I like it.

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Speaker 1: So I just feel like there's so much stuff that

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that I am so obsessed with

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Speaker 1: is this thing that I saw. And you know how

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can just buy that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So apparently Madison Bee's hair is really shiny because

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks every week. Wow. And you can

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Speaker 1: just and then I like with in the comments and

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's like that way gloss right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But it's like you can buy like this salon like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like play the clip of sal In twenty

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Speaker 3: Say it once a year every year, and if I don't,

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Speaker 3: I will pass away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, You'll just like evaporate into the air. What are

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is so random, but fuck Rida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah my obsession this week.

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Speaker 3: Ever since the Olympics, I've been watching a lot more

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what I'm obsessed with.

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Speaker 2: You're such a nerd.

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Speaker 2: Speaking bing nerdy bookie wookie women. Let's gory.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start with my first book, wreck, which

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Speaker 1: is Finding Your People Where by Alexandre Harrigan.

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Speaker 2: And Sally McMullen.

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Speaker 1: So if you actually didn't know that we wrote a book,

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Speaker 1: Not to you know, toot our own horn, but I'm toutin' bitch, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it also helps you realize that like something's just

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Speaker 1: A seasonal friendship is one that is with you during

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Speaker 2: To a huge epiphany. Beautiful, I know.

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Speaker 1: And it's like I was thinking about this as well

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Speaker 2: Even reaching out just being like, hey, like, I hope

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Speaker 3: And while you know, everybody has their own unique experiences

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Speaker 3: And the most common review I feel that we get

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what we wanted the book to be. So

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Speaker 3: if you haven't read it already, pick it up at

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Speaker 3: all good bookstores. And you can also get the audiobook

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Speaker 2: Before you on Spotify Premium. It's you're mad. It's just

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Speaker 1: It's just the fact, all right, sal What is your

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Speaker 4: Okay, my bookie Wookie Red.

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Speaker 2: Your Bookie Wookie Red is Blue.

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Speaker 4: Sisters by Coco Mas Gaming.

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Speaker 3: So this is a relatively new release that came out

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Speaker 3: It's goodt This is a story about a girl named Lucky.

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Speaker 2: But that's how I look at it, like I'm inside

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Speaker 1: Tell you, I have never had a book hangover, like

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Speaker 3: I wish that there was like a Little Men in Black. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Literally it is twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I'm good for it, man, Yeah, good for it. Man.

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Speaker 2: But I'll settle with Sow. So we we were just conquered.

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Speaker 1: I literally sat Sail down and made her promise me

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Speaker 1: But I also wanted to share some other like fantasy

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we put up a question box on our

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Speaker 1: So Powerless it's like a fantasy world and it's like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's good the sarcasm is very like witty

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Speaker 1: So some other recommendations The Serpent and The Wings of

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Speaker 1: But I did really like the first one. Characters are vibe.

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Speaker 3: Say you've a horse, ride a cable, Okay, so what

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Speaker 2: I love it. No, I keep that in. That is

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Speaker 1: Last one was Spuck of the Ever Flame. So those

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Speaker 2: But read Throne of Glass late. That's your homework. Everyone.

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Speaker 2: Just just fucking do it. I don't want to excuse this, Okay,

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Speaker 2: just fucking do it. I'll buy you the book the

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Speaker 2: first do you know what?

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Speaker 1: The first twenty people that message us on Instagram if

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Speaker 1: Wow, you message us on two broke chicks, I'm not

444
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: even I'm not joking, bitch. If you message us on

445
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: two broad chicks, first twenty people and say I want

446
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: to read Throne of Glass Alex, you're really pretty.

447
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: I'll buy you the book. It needs that last bit.

448
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got to. It's got to be

449
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: that phrase, all like some kind of compliment. Get creative

450
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Speaker 1: the first. Okay, okay, all right.

451
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: My next recommendation for books to read in your twenty

452
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: years is the new release from Lucinda Price aka Frooms,

453
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: which is all I.

454
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: Ever wanted was to be hot.

455
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: This book is so good and what an.

456
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 8: Incredible title I know, And it wasn't going to be

457
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 8: the Tide I know, which is wild because it was

458
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 8: potentially too long or potentially like comes across the wrong way,

459
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 8: but it is literally.

460
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: The perfect title. It's so good and it's so relatable. Yeah,

461
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: one thousand percent.

462
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: I was like, cool, same, I'll keep my little recap

463
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 3: kind of brief because we are going to have Frooms

464
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: on the podcast, so keep your eyes.

465
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: Peeled for that.

466
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: But this book is the debut release from Lucinda Price,

467
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 3: who yeah, you probably better know as Frooms on Instagram

468
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: and whatnot. It's kind of like part memoir, part investigation,

469
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: and it's really a reflection I guess on you know,

470
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: Western beauty standards and the pressure for women to be

471
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: well hot. You know, the book takes us back to

472
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: Frunz's childhood and I think where a lot of well

473
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: a lot of our listeners but also like our friends

474
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 3: and the people in our lives first had these experiences

475
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: in the early two thousands, and how the early two

476
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: thousands really has shaped a lot of our experiences with

477
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: you know, body image issues and disordered eating and things

478
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: like that. So while this book is of course like

479
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: incredibly personal to Lucinda, and she is so candid and

480
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: honest about a lot of her own experiences, while reading it,

481
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: I felt like I was like reading back a lot

482
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: of my own experiences and thoughts and even conversations that

483
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: I've had with my friends and with my family and

484
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: with people who I in, you know, like their twenties

485
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: and thirties and sort of have grown up over a

486
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: similar time, starting in the early two thousands and the

487
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: nineties and then now like growing up with social media.

488
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: So I think that a lot of people will find

489
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: this book really relatable, no matter what their experience is,

490
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, with.

491
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: The I think everyone could relate to it and what

492
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways of the spectrum. But yeah,

493
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: I think if you you do struggle, you know, talking

494
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: about you know, your body and your food and stuff

495
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: like that, I think obviously you can assess where you're

496
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: at and whether or not you are in a headspace

497
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: to read something like this, because it does discuss those

498
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: themes and it can be a bit tricky navigating that.

499
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: But I also think that.

500
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: This book was written to help navigate that exactly. So

501
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: I think also keep that in mind.

502
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, assessed sort of where you are in that journey

503
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 3: for yeah, and whether or not you think you would

504
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: be ready to read something like this, because yeah, I

505
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 3: do think it would be incredibly helpful to so many people,

506
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: but of course it could be potentially triggering to a

507
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: lot of people as well.

508
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: I think there's a lovely line at the start of

509
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: the book though, and there is a trigger warning at

510
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: the start of the book. But in the introduction, Lucinda

511
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: writes that if this book helps pull one person out

512
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: of the darkness, that she's done what she meant and

513
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: set out to do.

514
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, And.

515
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: I think she's definitely going to be helping with this book.

516
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: And I think with rooms.

517
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 3: A lot of people know her as you know, her

518
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: front facing sort of character or persona rather that you know,

519
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: we all love her for on Instagram, and she is

520
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: incredibly funny, and the book is really funny at points

521
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: as well. Like I've laughed out loud many times reading

522
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: it because some of her one liners are just so cooked.

523
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: I love it, Like, yeah.

524
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: She really has a good way with a like a

525
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: turn of phrase. But I think as well, like this

526
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: book also really flexes her journalism chops, Like there's a

527
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: lot of moments in the book where she's interviewing experts

528
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: or has done research where the combination of that and

529
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: her personal experience gives this book a really strong backbone,

530
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: which I really loved. And I think if you subscribe

531
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: to her newsletter, Froome's World, you may have seen like

532
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: this more earnest side of her as well.

533
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: And if you've listened to.

534
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: Some of the podcasts and whatnot that she's been on, like,

535
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 3: she's definitely shown this side of herself on the Internet before.

536
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: But I think it gives like a really amazing full

537
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: picture of like what a talented, funny, intelligent person she is.

538
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: And I think that everybody should read this book if

539
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 3: they feel like they're ready to do so.

540
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: And I'm really excited to see what everybody thinks. Yeah.

541
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: I love that.

542
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: Great with You, Good jab South woohoo.

543
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Okay, My next one is called Good with Money Reprogram

544
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: your spending habits and Take Control of Your Money by

545
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Emma Edwards, the founder of the Broke Generation. Yeah. So

546
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: we've had Emma on the pod before and she's amazing.

547
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: I really like the way that she talks about money.

548
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: It's very candid.

549
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: It's not about rules, it's not about shame.

550
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: It's not about like.

551
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: Making you feel bad if you don't have good money

552
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: habits in place already, Because who fucking does.

553
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: Like you don't get taught.

554
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: We say this all the time, you don't get taught

555
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: this stuff in school.

556
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: But you know Pythagoras' theorem, so that's cool. Yeah.

557
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, like knowing how to save and spend in

558
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: a way that is going to relieve stress from your

559
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: life is definitely a difficult thing to navigate. And I

560
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: think help yourself, like help yourself and teach yourself, and

561
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: doing that is the best thing that you can do

562
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: for you now and mainly future you. There's one quote

563
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: in it that I thought was really good, and she

564
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: talks about financial prioritization, and there's this one quote and

565
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: it says you can have anything you want, just not

566
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: everything you want.

567
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, yeah, I think.

568
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I think that is such a good and

569
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 1: big statement that you're like, wow, you really can have

570
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: anything you want, just not everything you want.

571
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: And I think as.

572
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Well, when you really think about the words, you're like

573
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: that that doesn't make sense, but when you read it,

574
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: it does.

575
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: It does make sense in my head.

576
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: That you can't necessarily explain it down to a t,

577
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: but it makes sense.

578
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's about like prioritizing.

579
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you want and what is worth putting your

580
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: money towards. And I think that gives like some of

581
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: the power back yourself.

582
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: So she continues to say, when you learn to prioritize,

583
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: you ensure that your money is first spent on the

584
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: things that matter most to you.

585
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: And I just love that. I think it's I think

586
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: it's great.

587
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: And I also just think the way that she discusses

588
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: money is not boring to put it bluntly, and it

589
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: also allows for fun Yeah, like.

590
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: She's a funny bitch.

591
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like it allows for you to be like, yes,

592
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 9: buy things that you do want just because you want them,

593
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 9: but like in moderation, which I know that's obvious, but

594
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 9: she actually breaks down the ways that you can do that.

595
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: So, if you are someone that is constantly transferring money

596
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: to savings and then by the end of the month

597
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: transferring them back, guilty, We've all been there, don't stress.

598
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: But this book is for you.

599
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: If you don't know how much your bills are every month,

600
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: or if you feel like you're constantly spending money that

601
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: you know you shouldn't be, or you have shopping regret constantly,

602
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: then like, this is definitely a book that will help

603
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: you navigate finances and building a better relationship with money,

604
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: especially in your twenties.

605
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah, when you're in your.

606
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: Twenties, that's when you maybe start getting your paycheck from

607
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: your first full time job. That's when you start moving

608
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: out and you've got to pay rent and you've got

609
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: to pay bills, and no one.

610
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: Teaches you how to do that.

611
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can read this book and it'll hopefully.

612
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: Teach you how to do that. Yeah.

613
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: My last recommendation for books to read in your twenties

614
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: is Plot Twist by Janna Firestone. So if you really

615
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: struggle with change, you should listen.

616
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: To this book.

617
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: So then, because well, actually this.

618
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: Is one that I listened to as an audiobook, so

619
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: I guess you can read it or you can listen.

620
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: But I first came across this book because it came

621
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: up as a recommendation in my audiobook section on Spotify.

622
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: And it's actually also published by Alan and Unw who

623
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: published Funding Your People our book and Belinda, So I

624
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: was like, ooh, same company, same company.

625
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm bestie. I was like, bestie is I'll read Bestie? Yes.

626
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: And Yanna Firestone is a therapist and she's also the

627
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: host of the Curious Life podcast, so some of you

628
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: may be familiar with her work already, and it's basically

629
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: a guide to surviving life's unexpected curveballs.

630
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: A lot of the book is.

631
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: About grief and navigating loss, whether that's you know, grief

632
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: of losing a family member or a loved one, or

633
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: the end of a relationship, or massive changes in your

634
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: life where you know you're sort of grieving a previous chapter.

635
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: And I think this isn't typically the sort of book

636
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: that I would pick up or listen to. I think

637
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 3: a lot of people would reach for this book when

638
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: they're experiencing grief. But I actually think a lot of

639
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: people should read this book in their twenties because, like

640
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: the book covers, loss and change in life is inevitable,

641
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: and I think that reading or listening to this book

642
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: could really prepare a lot of people on how to

643
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: deal with that when it eventually happens. I do think

644
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: that if you are experiencing grief or loss of any kind,

645
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: definitely reach for this book. I think because Yanna is

646
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: a therapist, you know, she talks a lot about a

647
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: lot of practical tools and things that you can do

648
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: to get through it. And you know, she has and

649
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: she is an expert in this area, so she knows

650
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: what she's talking about. But she also lost her own

651
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: mom unexpectedly when she was twenty one, so she kind

652
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: of pulls in both a lot of her practical expertise

653
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: and knowledge and then also her lived experience.

654
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, I just really loved it.

655
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: I think that it's like I almost was like, this

656
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: is like a good preventative read for me, you know,

657
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: like something to just prepare me for things that will

658
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 3: inevitably happen.

659
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: And I think one of the last chapters of the.

660
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: Book was about the fear of losing someone and how

661
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: even the fear of grief can be really paralyzing for

662
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: a lot of people and how to get through that,

663
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: because I think it's really easy to be like, oh, well,

664
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: you know, like these things are going to happen anyway,

665
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: so why worry about it now? Why stress about it now?

666
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: It's really easy to say that.

667
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: But that's not going to be like, oh okay, great,

668
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: well then I won't want It's like someone sad and

669
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: they're like, don't be sad, and you're like, oh, exactly, yeah.

670
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just even that in itself I was like, wow,

671
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: like that is such like a good good reminder, and

672
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: I think something like, really it was sad, but it

673
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: was really comforting at the same time.

674
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: And I think that.

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00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: This book could be really helpful for people to get

676
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: through some of those really hard times and just know

677
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: that you will get through the other side, no matter

678
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: what you're grieving or no matter what change you're experiencing

679
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: in your life.

680
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm crying.

681
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: Shit because she's a podcast host as well.

682
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: The audiobook is great.

683
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: It was a really easy and nice listen, so definitely

684
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: check it out.

685
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Speaker 2: I was like, the fuck, I'm le oh, this sounds beautiful.

686
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: Great book.

687
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Rex, Yeah, but I us go thrown of glass everyone.

688
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: I await your DM. Should we get into advice with

689
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: the chicks? Let's get into it.

690
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: How do I stop seeking external gratification from others? I

691
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: feel like most of my outfits I wear or shopping

692
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: I buy is dependent on if I think someone else

693
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: will think I'm the it girl. It is a tiring feeling.

694
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: But in this society where your worth is based off

695
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: what brand you're wearing or how your body looks in clothes,

696
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: I don't know how to overcome it. This problem has

697
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: now turned into a major shopping problem in which I'm

698
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: self aware enough to know I'm seeking that high every

699
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: time I buy, because I'm one step closer to being

700
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: that it girl. Would love if you could help me

701
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: out love your chicks. Oh my god, I just want

702
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: to give you a big cuddle. That is so so

703
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: so relatable.

704
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: I've been there.

705
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Can I just say you are not alone in that,

706
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: because that is exactly how like you're supposed like you're

707
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: told to feel by like society and by brands and

708
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: by everyone.

709
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: And that is why.

710
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: We see these changing it girls. That is why, and

711
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: we did a whole episode on it. I really encourage

712
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: you to listen to it. It's called Women Aren't Fucking Trends.

713
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: It's basically a forty minute rant about this with a

714
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: lot of important information, but it's that whole thing of

715
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: how you know, there's the that girl, Then there was

716
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: Tomato Girl, Then there was like Espretho Martini.

717
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: Girl, like soft girl, even brat like Brat.

718
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Summer and clean girl, and while all of these things

719
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: you can pull inspiration from, and that's really big messaging

720
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: that like trends are okay if you don't have to

721
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: be the trend.

722
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: You can pull inspiration from these things.

723
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: But what's really difficult to do is that exactly like

724
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: it's being told constantly that this is this is the

725
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: ideal woman, this is who she should be. And then

726
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, okay, I bought that stuff. I'm good now,

727
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: and it's like oh jokes, no, no, it's just one sorry,

728
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: go over here, yehs bitch, I go over here and

729
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: be this girl.

730
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Now you've got all that stuff. Now I'll cool wardrobe change.

731
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: And it is set up in a way that you know,

732
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: we're always, never, ever ever going to be the girl

733
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: and if that's all we're training our brains to be.

734
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: And this is something that you know, we've both really

735
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: had to pull ourselves out of, is.

736
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: That that is really really boring.

737
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: It is so boring to be that girl and that

738
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: chick and you know, the tomato girl and the potato

739
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: girl and the espresso martini girl, Because who the fuck.

740
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Are you at the end of the day.

741
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: If you are always being you know something else, you

742
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: never actually get to be you.

743
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: And where is the fun in that?

744
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: And as soon as you identify, like what your style

745
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: is and what makes you feel hot and what makes

746
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: you feel good and not confident in all that stuff.

747
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: You end up being like, oh, do you know that's

748
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: not really my vibe?

749
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can be like, oh, that's really cool,

750
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 3: but it's not really going to fit within my aesthetic

751
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: because it doesn't work with the other things I have

752
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: in my wardrobe, doesn't fit in that character that is me.

753
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: Whereas when you're trying to adapt to all of these

754
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: different trends all of the time, that's going to keep

755
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: you in that constant cycle of having to buy something new.

756
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: So I like that like sit down and like have

757
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: a think about the things that you genuinely love, the

758
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: style icons that you always find yourself going back to,

759
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: and come up with your own aesthetic that is just

760
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: you and that's it. And look at the pieces in

761
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: your wardrobe and how you can restyle them and play

762
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: with them and like make different outfits from what you

763
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: already have and know that you can still have fun

764
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: with your clothes without having to buy something new every

765
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: single time a new trend comes around.

766
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

767
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: I know it's really hard and I know it's really tricky,

768
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: but pulling it back to being like, what is my uniform?

769
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: What is the thing that makes me feel good? What

770
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: is my character?

771
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: What is my sin?

772
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: What is like who I am? That makes me feel good?

773
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: Because if you're always trying to be the next thing,

774
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you can be so tired and.

775
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: It is so tiring.

776
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: And as soon as I started looking at it like that,

777
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: as in, like what's my vibe?

778
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like me, like genuinely what is your vibe?

779
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: Because I do think there is so much power to

780
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: be had in expressing yourself through your clothes, but doing

781
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: it in a way that is authentic to you rather

782
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: than mirroring whatever is on trend.

783
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: Look at the things you liked growing up.

784
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Look at you know, when you watched movies growing up,

785
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Who did you really like?

786
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: Whose style would you really love?

787
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: Like that kind of thing, because that will really tell

788
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: you who and what styles and things that make you

789
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: feel confident in what you kind of gravitate towards, because

790
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: when you're younger, you have a lot less of the

791
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: narrative pushed onto you. Yeah, so I think that all

792
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: that is what helped me be like what do I love?

793
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

794
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 3: Have fun with that, make like a Pinterest board, make

795
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: this like a fun activity, and figure out who you

796
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: are as a character. Love it?

797
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Anyway, Well that is a wrap of this episode.

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00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: To check your job. To the boogie Woogie women, we

799
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: hope you loved it. A bit of a chaotic episode,

800
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: but aren't they all yeah? Is it life? Just chaos?

801
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 7: It is?

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00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: Well, love your chicks.

803
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: Thanks for having us in your ear holes.

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00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: We love to be here, and thanks to m ik

805
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: Made for making today's episode happened.

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00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: And read through a boss. See you at the library,

807
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: see you at the library bay.

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00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: Sorry,