1 00:00:04,290 --> 00:00:14,730 Deano: This is Browny's Podcast. Hey, welcome to Browny's Podcast. Now, Campbell Brown, we 2 00:00:14,730 --> 00:00:17,849 Deano: put a bullet in him. He's dead to us. That 3 00:00:17,850 --> 00:00:20,250 Deano: son of a bitch can go to hell. Brodes, do you want to shed some 4 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:21,360 Deano: light on what's happening here? 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,300 Brodie: Well, he just kept abandoning us for weeks one and 6 00:00:24,300 --> 00:00:27,990 Brodie: we thought, there is better. We've brought in the great 7 00:00:28,260 --> 00:00:29,190 Brodie: Nathan Buckley. 8 00:00:29,730 --> 00:00:29,910 Deano: Oh, shit. 9 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:36,000 Nathan Buckley: Careless Whisper's my entrée. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Jonathan Brown: How did we get him? 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,180 Brodie: How did we get him? 12 00:00:42,210 --> 00:00:44,040 Jonathan Brown: My cohost on Best on Ground, but I shouldn't say that because 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,650 Jonathan Brown: if you actually go to the little thumbnail on Kayo or Foxtel- 14 00:00:46,650 --> 00:00:48,001 Nathan Buckley: On Kayo, it says that I'm (inaudible) . 15 00:00:48,001 --> 00:00:51,150 Jonathan Brown: ... it says Nathan Buckley is the solo host of 16 00:00:51,150 --> 00:00:51,930 Jonathan Brown: Best on Ground. 17 00:00:53,130 --> 00:00:54,780 Nathan Buckley: Did you say that Browny was down in Tassie? 18 00:00:54,870 --> 00:00:55,320 Deano: Yeah. 19 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:55,501 Nathan Buckley: Well, why is he just out there tied up? 20 00:00:55,501 --> 00:00:55,502 Deano: With a gimp mask on. 21 00:00:55,502 --> 00:01:02,400 Nathan Buckley: With a gimp mask on wanting to get in. 22 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:04,530 Brodie: It's like promising your kids that you're going to Luna 23 00:01:04,530 --> 00:01:07,020 Brodie: Park, but Luna Park was closed and then saying, " Oh, 24 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:08,700 Brodie: actually, we can go to Disneyland instead." 25 00:01:08,730 --> 00:01:10,380 Deano: Yes, that's exactly what's just happened. 26 00:01:10,380 --> 00:01:11,911 Brodie: That's exactly what we've done. 27 00:01:11,911 --> 00:01:14,280 Jonathan Brown: There may be no coming back from this for Brown Dog. Brown Dog's 28 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,710 Jonathan Brown: down in Hobart filming ... What is it again, Deano? 29 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,319 Deano: A low budget pornography film, I believe. 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,910 Jonathan Brown: Of course, yes. He's making his way. 31 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:21,331 Nathan Buckley: Is this his first? 32 00:01:21,331 --> 00:01:21,332 Deano: Yes, it's his first. It's his debut. 33 00:01:21,332 --> 00:01:24,360 Nathan Buckley: It's his first? Oh, well done. 34 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,320 Deano: He's dressed as a pirate. 35 00:01:26,310 --> 00:01:27,930 Nathan Buckley: He got himself in good nick for it, didn't he? 36 00:01:28,410 --> 00:01:31,590 Jonathan Brown: I was wondering why he was growing that mustache the last few weeks. 37 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,190 Deano: Bucks, just a heads up, this isn't like Best on 38 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:37,980 Deano: Ground. This isn't like that Hillsong shit that you guys 39 00:01:37,980 --> 00:01:40,410 Deano: roll out every Saturday night. 40 00:01:40,410 --> 00:01:40,471 Nathan Buckley: So, you like it? 41 00:01:40,471 --> 00:01:46,950 Deano: No. This has some grit. You can say whatever you want, you understand? 42 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,070 Nathan Buckley: Oh, is that right? 43 00:01:47,370 --> 00:01:49,230 Jonathan Brown: Well, mind you, things get a little bit loose on 44 00:01:49,230 --> 00:01:51,870 Jonathan Brown: Best on Ground late in the evening, just because it's 45 00:01:51,870 --> 00:01:54,660 Jonathan Brown: after 10:30. We've had a few loose characters in the audience. 46 00:01:54,690 --> 00:01:55,140 Deano: Really? 47 00:01:55,140 --> 00:01:57,060 Jonathan Brown: The audience number's starting to build up, Bucks. 48 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:58,561 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, it's good. 49 00:01:58,561 --> 00:01:58,861 Deano: Really? 50 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:02,070 Nathan Buckley: When we started having a few beers before the show, 51 00:02:02,070 --> 00:02:03,330 Nathan Buckley: that's when it really kicked off. 52 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,330 Jonathan Brown: Well, Bucks has this ingenious idea, we're sitting up thinking, 53 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:10,080 Jonathan Brown: we're ruining our Saturday nights, Bucks- 54 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:10,441 Nathan Buckley: Ruining it. 55 00:02:10,441 --> 00:02:13,650 Jonathan Brown: ... we're getting there on a Saturday, about 7: 00 going, " What are 56 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:17,460 Jonathan Brown: we going to do?" Bucks said, " Big fella, I'm going to have a couple of beers," and I thought, "That's a great idea, let's not wait till 11: 57 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Jonathan Brown: 30 after the show. Let's just sit up and just 58 00:02:23,669 --> 00:02:25,351 Jonathan Brown: analyze the game of football with a couple of beers." 59 00:02:25,351 --> 00:02:28,650 Nathan Buckley: With a couple of beers. Second half, couple of beers and then the first 60 00:02:28,650 --> 00:02:29,460 Nathan Buckley: half, a couple of beers. 61 00:02:30,210 --> 00:02:30,780 Jonathan Brown: It's building, building, building. 62 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:33,600 Nathan Buckley: Now I start at midday. 63 00:02:35,130 --> 00:02:36,840 Jonathan Brown: Well, mate, Bomber Thompson famously- 64 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:36,901 Nathan Buckley: Day drinking. 65 00:02:36,901 --> 00:02:39,240 Jonathan Brown: ... ate chicken rolls in the coach's box. 66 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,570 Nathan Buckley: I saw that. 67 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:42,690 Jonathan Brown: You were doing the wrong, mate. You should've been having a couple of beers during the 68 00:02:42,870 --> 00:02:43,620 Jonathan Brown: coaching spell. 69 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:43,830 Nathan Buckley: You reckon? 70 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:46,440 Deano: When you watch Best on Ground, we can safely say 71 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,360 Deano: you guys are lubed up and feeling good. 72 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:51,810 Jonathan Brown: We're feeling good. It's good. Well, Front Bar does it, so why 73 00:02:51,810 --> 00:02:52,380 Jonathan Brown: can't we do it? 74 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,090 Nathan Buckley: Put it this way, when he had those two liters 75 00:02:54,090 --> 00:02:56,580 Nathan Buckley: of milk, it wasn't the first thing he'd skulled. 76 00:02:57,030 --> 00:03:02,730 Jonathan Brown: Mate, it was unbelievable. I'd had a couple of beers, then I've got the liter and a half of milk, mixing with mother's milk, the 77 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:05,010 Jonathan Brown: Carlton Draught. Not the greatest mix, Bucks. 78 00:03:05,010 --> 00:03:08,550 Nathan Buckley: No, but you did it well. I was very impressed. 79 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:08,820 Jonathan Brown: I did it well. 80 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:10,710 Nathan Buckley: You opened up the gullet and you've had a bit of practice lately. 81 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:15,600 Jonathan Brown: Did you notice our man her, Brodie, big Port Adelaide supporter? 82 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:15,601 Nathan Buckley: That is elite. 83 00:03:15,601 --> 00:03:15,691 Brodie: That's nice, isn't it? 84 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:20,940 Nathan Buckley: It's nearly the Burley Sekem type, old school Port Adelaide/ 85 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:24,750 Nathan Buckley: Magpies prison bars guernsey. A long sleeve, though, you wouldn't 86 00:03:24,750 --> 00:03:24,931 Nathan Buckley: get a game with a long sleeve. 87 00:03:24,931 --> 00:03:29,760 Jonathan Brown: Well, it's the woolen one, too. You're not that old, Bucks, but do you go back to wearing 88 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,290 Jonathan Brown: the woolen jumper and Port Adelaide jumper? 89 00:03:31,290 --> 00:03:32,311 Nathan Buckley: Mate, I am that old. We used to do the lace-up. 90 00:03:32,311 --> 00:03:32,312 Deano: What? 91 00:03:32,312 --> 00:03:32,313 Nathan Buckley: I wore a lace-up. 92 00:03:32,313 --> 00:03:37,620 Jonathan Brown: There's a great photo of you. Did you wear- 93 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:39,570 Nathan Buckley: There's a lot of great photos of me. That's one 94 00:03:39,570 --> 00:03:40,200 Nathan Buckley: with a lace- up. 95 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:41,101 Jonathan Brown: Especially with your shirt off. 96 00:03:41,101 --> 00:03:43,831 Nathan Buckley: There's that one shot, yeah. 97 00:03:43,831 --> 00:03:46,890 Deano: Was that a pain in the ass doing that lace 98 00:03:46,890 --> 00:03:47,970 Deano: for every single game? 99 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:51,480 Nathan Buckley: It took me about half a season to workout how 100 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,250 Nathan Buckley: to do it, and then when I got it right, 101 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:57,000 Nathan Buckley: I was out of there. But it was awesome, I loved wearing them. 102 00:03:57,060 --> 00:03:57,930 Jonathan Brown: He paid people to do that. 103 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:58,711 Nathan Buckley: Oh, please. 104 00:03:58,711 --> 00:03:58,712 Deano: He had a lacer. 105 00:03:58,712 --> 00:03:58,713 Jonathan Brown: A lacer. 106 00:03:58,713 --> 00:04:02,550 Nathan Buckley: A lacer. You know there was a time before I had to pay people. 107 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:05,161 Jonathan Brown: When you were Adelaide. 108 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:08,130 Nathan Buckley: I had to slum it. 109 00:04:08,250 --> 00:04:10,980 Deano: Speaking of jumpers, we were talking before, because you collected jumpers, and you found your 110 00:04:11,430 --> 00:04:11,640 Deano: Brissie one? 111 00:04:14,490 --> 00:04:18,779 Nathan Buckley: Yeah. Well, you just keep an eye out and you 112 00:04:18,779 --> 00:04:23,910 Nathan Buckley: want to hold onto your guernsey. I've played South Australia. 113 00:04:26,339 --> 00:04:30,150 Nathan Buckley: NT, Queensland. I've got an NT guernsey. I've got an 114 00:04:30,210 --> 00:04:34,590 Nathan Buckley: Allies guernsey, which I played with. Obviously the Collingwood ones. 115 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:38,100 Nathan Buckley: Then the Brisbane one's the only one that I don't 116 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:41,339 Nathan Buckley: have. This guy sent me a message on Insta a 117 00:04:41,339 --> 00:04:43,170 Nathan Buckley: couple of days ago and said, " Have a look at 118 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:44,760 Nathan Buckley: this blast from the past." It's my guernsey. 119 00:04:44,761 --> 00:04:44,762 Deano: Really? 120 00:04:44,762 --> 00:04:49,260 Nathan Buckley: It's the Brisbane Bears guernsey signed and it's in good nick. 121 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:49,650 Jonathan Brown: Things were a bit tight, were they, back then? 122 00:04:50,730 --> 00:04:53,220 Nathan Buckley: It's got the old school collar on it. It's the 123 00:04:53,220 --> 00:04:53,760 Nathan Buckley: woolen one. 124 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Jonathan Brown: Were things a bit tight up in Brisbane? You were just 125 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,370 Jonathan Brown: selling off your jumpers. 126 00:04:56,670 --> 00:04:58,800 Nathan Buckley: It looks to be the case, yeah. I don't know 127 00:04:59,730 --> 00:05:00,690 Nathan Buckley: what I sold it for. 128 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:01,320 Deano: Can we call this person? 129 00:05:01,321 --> 00:05:02,190 Nathan Buckley: Was it Smarty, the property- 130 00:05:02,191 --> 00:05:02,192 Jonathan Brown: That's right. 131 00:05:02,192 --> 00:05:02,193 Nathan Buckley: He was the head trainer. 132 00:05:02,193 --> 00:05:04,109 Jonathan Brown: No, Smarty was property steward. 133 00:05:04,410 --> 00:05:08,790 Nathan Buckley: He was the property steward. I reckon Smarty flicked it 134 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:10,561 Nathan Buckley: before my hands on it. 135 00:05:10,561 --> 00:05:11,730 Jonathan Brown: He would've sold it, as well. 136 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:14,549 Nathan Buckley: But then I've signed it. Maybe I gave it to 137 00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:15,481 Nathan Buckley: Smarty and he sold it. 138 00:05:15,481 --> 00:05:16,770 Brodie: Are you sure it wasn't Ricky Nixon? 139 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:19,349 Nathan Buckley: It could've been. 140 00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:21,630 Deano: Hey, let's call this person and threaten them, Bucks. 141 00:05:21,631 --> 00:05:21,840 Jonathan Brown: Well, Smarty's dead. 142 00:05:21,841 --> 00:05:22,590 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, Smarty's passed now. 143 00:05:22,590 --> 00:05:22,650 Jonathan Brown: He's passed now. 144 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,041 Nathan Buckley: He would've been about 80 when he was doing it. 145 00:05:29,041 --> 00:05:30,751 Jonathan Brown: Mate, he would've been 80 when Bucks was there. 146 00:05:30,751 --> 00:05:30,752 Nathan Buckley: In '93. 147 00:05:30,752 --> 00:05:37,020 Jonathan Brown: That was the one in '93 and, mate, that's a valuable piece of memorabilia because Bucks won 148 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:37,800 Jonathan Brown: the rising star. 149 00:05:37,830 --> 00:05:38,370 Deano: No, shit. 150 00:05:38,370 --> 00:05:42,180 Jonathan Brown: That's signed as well. Smarty famously would have beers in his 151 00:05:42,390 --> 00:05:43,770 Jonathan Brown: property steward after the games. 152 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:44,460 Deano: Amazing. 153 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:47,099 Jonathan Brown: I think Roger Merrett, when Roger Merrett was playing, he'd 154 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:49,860 Jonathan Brown: sneak in there for a few beers with the property boys after a game. 155 00:05:50,250 --> 00:05:52,980 Deano: What's Roger Merrett doing these days, without getting too sidetracked? 156 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:54,390 Nathan Buckley: I don't know. Is he a dentist? 157 00:05:55,950 --> 00:05:58,740 Jonathan Brown: No. Rog had a stroke years ago. 158 00:05:58,890 --> 00:05:59,340 Nathan Buckley: Oh, really? 159 00:05:59,550 --> 00:06:01,020 Brodie: You're really hitting it out of the park today, aren't you? 160 00:06:01,020 --> 00:06:01,231 Nathan Buckley: How are you going? 161 00:06:01,231 --> 00:06:03,180 Jonathan Brown: ( beep) hell, Deano. 162 00:06:03,180 --> 00:06:04,529 Deano: Hey, is he all right now? 163 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:06,990 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, he's okay. Well, he's still alive. 164 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,479 Deano: That's good. Love to Rog. 165 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,110 Jonathan Brown: Tough times. 166 00:06:10,110 --> 00:06:13,860 Nathan Buckley: We've just heard from Browny, he's not doing a pornography 167 00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:16,260 Nathan Buckley: at all. He's just seeing a sick kid down in 168 00:06:16,260 --> 00:06:17,371 Nathan Buckley: Tassie. What are you up to? 169 00:06:17,371 --> 00:06:17,371 Jonathan Brown: What are you doing, Deano? 170 00:06:17,371 --> 00:06:19,200 Deano: He's had a hiking accident. 171 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,289 Nathan Buckley: Mate. 172 00:06:19,290 --> 00:06:20,100 Deano: He's fallen down. 173 00:06:20,190 --> 00:06:22,289 Nathan Buckley: No, you know what Rog would be doing if he 174 00:06:22,290 --> 00:06:24,779 Nathan Buckley: had a choice, he'd be in dentistry somewhere because he 175 00:06:24,779 --> 00:06:26,730 Nathan Buckley: used to rearrange a few sets of teeth. 176 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:28,020 Jonathan Brown: You played with Rog. 177 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:30,270 Nathan Buckley: His elbows were as sharp as any. He used to 178 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:32,820 Nathan Buckley: get in the front of ruck contests, this is when 179 00:06:32,820 --> 00:06:35,279 Nathan Buckley: men were men, get in the front of ruck contests 180 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,350 Nathan Buckley: and just accidentally throw his arms back. 181 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:39,929 Jonathan Brown: Bucks is not talking shit here. 182 00:06:40,290 --> 00:06:41,520 Nathan Buckley: He'd have holes in his elbows. 183 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,140 Jonathan Brown: He's got really sharp elbows. 184 00:06:43,140 --> 00:06:43,380 Nathan Buckley: Calloused. 185 00:06:43,470 --> 00:06:43,920 Deano: Really? 186 00:06:44,730 --> 00:06:45,570 Jonathan Brown: He was a hard man. 187 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:48,570 Nathan Buckley: He was a ripper. He was living down in Gold Coast. He only 188 00:06:48,779 --> 00:06:51,990 Nathan Buckley: used to drive up for the last training session and 189 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:53,790 Nathan Buckley: then to play a game and then he'd go back. 190 00:06:53,910 --> 00:06:55,020 Jonathan Brown: Is that all he'd do for the week? 191 00:06:55,860 --> 00:06:58,830 Nathan Buckley: Well, I think it was his last year in '93 and Wallsy 192 00:06:58,830 --> 00:06:59,190 Nathan Buckley: had allowed him that to keep him going for leadership. 193 00:06:59,190 --> 00:06:59,191 Jonathan Brown: Keep him going. 194 00:06:59,191 --> 00:07:03,479 Nathan Buckley: But he'd only ever come up once a week. 195 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Jonathan Brown: Did he cook the young blokes as well? 196 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:08,580 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, flat out. He was a gruff bastard. 197 00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:14,430 Deano: Hey, last night. Hey, Tiges are back and also, is this season 198 00:07:14,430 --> 00:07:16,650 Deano: going to get crazy? It's tightening up. 199 00:07:16,890 --> 00:07:17,970 Jonathan Brown: It's pretty open, Bucks. 200 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:21,390 Nathan Buckley: I love it. That result last night really opens it 201 00:07:21,390 --> 00:07:25,920 Nathan Buckley: up again because if St Kilda, who should win ... Geelong 202 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,711 Nathan Buckley: should win. Who's the other team that's in between? 203 00:07:28,711 --> 00:07:28,712 Deano: Freo? 204 00:07:28,712 --> 00:07:29,192 Brodie: Freo? 205 00:07:30,540 --> 00:07:32,280 Nathan Buckley: Freo are up above it. But I reckon Carlton could 206 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,481 Nathan Buckley: finish this round in 7th spot and they had a chance- 207 00:07:36,481 --> 00:07:36,482 Deano: Shit. 208 00:07:36,482 --> 00:07:38,220 Nathan Buckley: ... to go up to top spot if they'd have won. 209 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,570 Jonathan Brown: That's right. I think Sydney are in amongst the mix as well. 210 00:07:39,570 --> 00:07:43,530 Nathan Buckley: Sydney's the other one. There's a few in there. You just 211 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:46,080 Nathan Buckley: think, wow, it's all heating up. 212 00:07:46,170 --> 00:07:48,270 Deano: All of a sudden, Dees, a month ago you're like, 213 00:07:48,270 --> 00:07:50,460 Deano: they could go through the whole season without dropping one, 214 00:07:50,460 --> 00:07:52,380 Deano: and they could be ( beep) the next month. 215 00:07:52,380 --> 00:07:56,040 Jonathan Brown: Well, they play Brisbane next Thursday night. It was a great game of the footy 216 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,410 Jonathan Brown: last night. Brodie, he's a sweet kid. He said to 217 00:07:58,410 --> 00:08:01,620 Jonathan Brown: me, Bucks, " What did you do when it started raining 218 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:04,920 Jonathan Brown: sideways? Did you get undercover?" I go, "Mate, I leaned forward and 219 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,940 Jonathan Brown: I closed the windows of the corporate box we were 220 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,489 Jonathan Brown: in." Come on. I took Olivia last night, Bucks. You 221 00:08:11,490 --> 00:08:15,570 Jonathan Brown: know Olivia, she's a mad Carlton supporter. God almighty, at 222 00:08:15,570 --> 00:08:18,000 Jonathan Brown: one stage, she screamed out when the Richmond games came at Crippa at 223 00:08:18,810 --> 00:08:22,020 Jonathan Brown: the half- time brawl, she's leaned out the window and said, " 224 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:27,451 Jonathan Brown: Crippa, punch them in the face." Obviously gets that aggression from her mother. 225 00:08:27,451 --> 00:08:27,451 Nathan Buckley: How old's Liv now? 226 00:08:27,451 --> 00:08:29,280 Jonathan Brown: Liv's 12 years old. 227 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,280 Deano: Stunning. 228 00:08:29,281 --> 00:08:29,282 Jonathan Brown: Stunning. 229 00:08:29,282 --> 00:08:32,550 Nathan Buckley: Did she say more than just, " Punch them in the face?" 230 00:08:32,730 --> 00:08:33,090 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, she did. 231 00:08:33,090 --> 00:08:35,130 Nathan Buckley: She's still got a bit of Kylie to come through. 232 00:08:35,130 --> 00:08:36,240 Jonathan Brown: A bit of Kylie to come through. 233 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,981 Brodie: What are your thoughts on the Shai Bolton showing the footy? 234 00:08:37,981 --> 00:08:38,131 Deano: Here we go. 235 00:08:38,820 --> 00:08:39,481 Brodie: I personally endorse that. 236 00:08:39,481 --> 00:08:39,482 Deano: Same. 237 00:08:39,482 --> 00:08:39,482 Brodie: But I've never played anything but- 238 00:08:39,482 --> 00:08:39,901 Jonathan Brown: A bit of smart arsery there. 239 00:08:39,901 --> 00:08:43,140 Brodie: ... third division reserves. What do you think? 240 00:08:43,470 --> 00:08:46,590 Nathan Buckley: I think we love it from the outside, to see the 241 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:49,770 Nathan Buckley: character and personality come out of players. I didn't mind 242 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,470 Nathan Buckley: seeing it. If I was Damian Hardwick, I reckon I'd 243 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:54,689 Nathan Buckley: approach it the way that they sound like they did, 244 00:08:55,050 --> 00:08:58,110 Nathan Buckley: and that is, I think the term Richmond man came out, that's 245 00:08:58,110 --> 00:09:01,200 Nathan Buckley: not what a Richmond man does. I think that's the 246 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,950 Nathan Buckley: sort of expectations and standards that, if you're the senior coach 247 00:09:04,980 --> 00:09:07,320 Nathan Buckley: and the leaders, you need to uphold. But I think 248 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,750 Nathan Buckley: us as punters outside, you don't mind seeing that, do you? 249 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:14,581 Brodie: If you were playing, what would you have done? 250 00:09:14,581 --> 00:09:14,582 Nathan Buckley: If I was running into an open goal? 251 00:09:14,582 --> 00:09:16,949 Brodie: If you're playing on Shai Bolton and he shows you the 252 00:09:16,950 --> 00:09:17,521 Brodie: footy like that, what do you do? 253 00:09:17,521 --> 00:09:20,309 Nathan Buckley: You probably do what Sam Docherty did which is smile. 254 00:09:20,460 --> 00:09:20,910 Nathan Buckley: What else do you do? 255 00:09:20,910 --> 00:09:21,451 Jonathan Brown: What else can you do? 256 00:09:21,451 --> 00:09:23,700 Nathan Buckley: You can't do anything else. You're not going to catch him. 257 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:25,861 Nathan Buckley: And how well did Sam Docherty play? My god. 258 00:09:25,861 --> 00:09:25,862 Deano: Jesus. 259 00:09:25,862 --> 00:09:25,862 Jonathan Brown: Amazing. How good of a year's he had? 260 00:09:25,862 --> 00:09:30,210 Deano: Can you imagine if Bolton went for that move and 261 00:09:30,210 --> 00:09:31,170 Deano: then dropped it? That would have been stunning. 262 00:09:32,429 --> 00:09:34,440 Nathan Buckley: But that's the thing, we think of the what ifs, 263 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Nathan Buckley: don't we? If shit can go bad, and does, well, 264 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Nathan Buckley: then you look like a goose. But if it doesn't ... 265 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:43,740 Nathan Buckley: Jack Ginnivan did it earlier this year as well. 266 00:09:43,740 --> 00:09:43,860 Jonathan Brown: That's right, he did, too. 267 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:48,690 Nathan Buckley: But you just see these things, and even Horne- Francis and 268 00:09:48,690 --> 00:09:51,689 Nathan Buckley: some of his stuff, behind closed doors is where you 269 00:09:51,690 --> 00:09:55,439 Nathan Buckley: address it. But the pile on, there's so many of us 270 00:09:55,500 --> 00:10:00,120 Nathan Buckley: talking about them, and it just builds, doesn't it? You can't get away from it. 271 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:06,059 Jonathan Brown: It grows its own storyline or grows legs. I loved 272 00:10:06,059 --> 00:10:08,819 Jonathan Brown: it from the outside. It was interesting though because it 273 00:10:08,820 --> 00:10:10,590 Jonathan Brown: looked like it was going to come back to bite him because- 274 00:10:10,590 --> 00:10:10,591 Deano: Man. 275 00:10:10,591 --> 00:10:13,140 Jonathan Brown: ... Harry McKay kicked three goals in the next four minutes, 276 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:15,690 Jonathan Brown: you're thinking, oh my god, they're going to get rolled and he'll look terrible. 277 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,540 Nathan Buckley: But what does that change? It doesn't change what he did. 278 00:10:18,540 --> 00:10:18,631 Jonathan Brown: It doesn't, exactly right. 279 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,020 Nathan Buckley: That lives in its own moment, and I think we 280 00:10:22,020 --> 00:10:25,440 Nathan Buckley: forget. We want to extrapolate things all the time. These 281 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,119 Nathan Buckley: blokes in the media, come on. 282 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,100 Jonathan Brown: Exactly. You're on the dark side. 283 00:10:30,510 --> 00:10:31,261 Nathan Buckley: I'm still saying these blokes in the media. 284 00:10:31,261 --> 00:10:32,309 Deano: These pricks. 285 00:10:33,450 --> 00:10:34,710 Nathan Buckley: I can't believe the media these days. 286 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:40,050 Jonathan Brown: What about, though, when McKay kicks three in a row and then they go down there and Jack Newnes 287 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Jonathan Brown: kicks the goal- 288 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Nathan Buckley: Newnes. 289 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,780 Jonathan Brown: ... and it goes back to the center- 290 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:44,190 Nathan Buckley: Do you think that was touched? 291 00:10:44,190 --> 00:10:44,881 Jonathan Brown: I think it was a touched. 292 00:10:44,881 --> 00:10:45,841 Deano: The fingers did a little dance, Bucks. 293 00:10:45,841 --> 00:10:46,770 Jonathan Brown: There was a little bit of a dance. 294 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:49,020 Deano: Broady's fingers did a little dance in the replay. 295 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:54,390 Nathan Buckley: The fingers that didn't touch the ball were dancing as 296 00:10:54,390 --> 00:10:55,440 Nathan Buckley: well. What does that mean? 297 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:55,860 Deano: That's a good point. 298 00:10:55,860 --> 00:10:59,641 Jonathan Brown: You could argue that, I suppose. Well, I'll tell you what, you sound like- 299 00:10:59,641 --> 00:11:01,590 Nathan Buckley: You put your hand up and you've got a button that 300 00:11:01,590 --> 00:11:04,002 Nathan Buckley: you press and your hand shakes (inaudible) . 301 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,809 Deano: I would argue the hand in question did jazz fingers and the 302 00:11:06,809 --> 00:11:07,950 Deano: other one just did a little- 303 00:11:07,950 --> 00:11:09,030 Nathan Buckley: Is that right? 304 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:10,200 Jonathan Brown: There's a bit of wind up there, was there? 305 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:10,471 Deano: Yeah. 306 00:11:10,471 --> 00:11:10,711 Jonathan Brown: The fingers were fluttering. 307 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:14,460 Nathan Buckley: What about the skill of a defender, as you're going 308 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:17,160 Nathan Buckley: to start coaching, as you smother, you've got to get 309 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:17,820 Nathan Buckley: jazz fingers. 310 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:17,910 Deano: Yes, that's genius. 311 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:23,820 Jonathan Brown: My daughter went absolutely crazy. She had her TV screen just 312 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:26,370 Jonathan Brown: meters from her head. She clearly could see that those 313 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:30,601 Jonathan Brown: fingers had moved and she is screaming at the TV, "Dad, they didn't touch it. Do something about." 314 00:11:30,601 --> 00:11:30,602 Deano: Do something. 315 00:11:30,602 --> 00:11:36,270 Jonathan Brown: "What the (beep) can I do about it? I'm sitting up here in a corporate box." 316 00:11:36,270 --> 00:11:36,391 Nathan Buckley: Oh my god. 317 00:11:36,391 --> 00:11:40,679 Deano: Did Crippa, at three quarter time ... Was that a conscious thing 318 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,480 Deano: for him to kick the bees nest when he went 319 00:11:42,510 --> 00:11:43,980 Deano: at ... Who was the small- 320 00:11:44,010 --> 00:11:44,011 Nathan Buckley: Prestia. 321 00:11:44,011 --> 00:11:44,251 Jonathan Brown: Prestia. 322 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:47,490 Deano: Was that a captain's thing that he did? 323 00:11:47,490 --> 00:11:48,449 Jonathan Brown: Was that at half- time? 324 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:53,190 Nathan Buckley: No, it was three quarter time and he kicked the ball. He copped 325 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:56,101 Nathan Buckley: the shove in the back, he must have headbutted Newnes' knee, I reckon. 326 00:11:56,101 --> 00:11:56,401 Jonathan Brown: He did, too. 327 00:11:58,530 --> 00:12:01,710 Nathan Buckley: It stung him, and a big unit like that, to 328 00:12:01,710 --> 00:12:04,829 Nathan Buckley: get stung, and it was a bit of his pride as well and he 329 00:12:04,830 --> 00:12:07,500 Nathan Buckley: was coming back at Prestia. I reckon he wanted to kick that 330 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:08,309 Nathan Buckley: ball into his head. 331 00:12:08,309 --> 00:12:11,489 Deano: So did I. 332 00:12:11,490 --> 00:12:13,679 Jonathan Brown: That would have been brilliant. I tell you what happened at half- time, 333 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,270 Jonathan Brown: just before we move on from the game. It was 334 00:12:18,660 --> 00:12:20,010 Jonathan Brown: three quarter time. 335 00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:21,151 Nathan Buckley: I want to see this. 336 00:12:21,151 --> 00:12:23,760 Jonathan Brown: They did the spring and there was a Richmond punter- 337 00:12:24,690 --> 00:12:24,691 Nathan Buckley: Punter. 338 00:12:24,691 --> 00:12:28,830 Jonathan Brown: ... and a Carlton punter, and it's a hundred meter 339 00:12:28,830 --> 00:12:32,190 Jonathan Brown: sprint along the boundary line, and the Carlton punter halfway 340 00:12:32,490 --> 00:12:35,971 Jonathan Brown: through has I reckon torn his hamstring off the bone. 341 00:12:35,971 --> 00:12:35,972 Nathan Buckley: Off the bone. 342 00:12:35,972 --> 00:12:40,829 Jonathan Brown: And then obviously as he's grabbed it and he's trying to 343 00:12:40,830 --> 00:12:45,420 Jonathan Brown: slow down, then he slipped ass over tit and smacked 344 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:46,319 Jonathan Brown: his head on the ground. 345 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,501 Nathan Buckley: Oh, no. 346 00:12:46,501 --> 00:12:48,780 Jonathan Brown: Mate, I'm chasing the footage, it was on the closed circuit TV, MCG. 347 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,559 Deano: This poor bastard woke up today having to go to 348 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,590 Deano: work with a grade four hammy tear. 349 00:12:55,620 --> 00:12:57,420 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, and a concussion from when he's hit his head. 350 00:12:57,420 --> 00:12:59,550 Nathan Buckley: It was actually grade 91, I reckon. It was right 351 00:12:59,550 --> 00:12:59,670 Nathan Buckley: up there. 352 00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:59,671 Brodie: I'm going to get that person on this podcast. 353 00:12:59,671 --> 00:12:59,672 Deano: Please. 354 00:12:59,672 --> 00:13:04,800 Nathan Buckley: But you're on the MCG, you're wearing your club colors. 355 00:13:04,890 --> 00:13:07,410 Nathan Buckley: Now, he just gets a little bit of a snippet 356 00:13:07,410 --> 00:13:09,809 Nathan Buckley: of the pressure that you're under when you're representing more 357 00:13:09,809 --> 00:13:10,559 Nathan Buckley: than just yourself. 358 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:11,100 Jonathan Brown: Absolutely. 359 00:13:11,100 --> 00:13:14,640 Nathan Buckley: And everyone in the crowd would have felt like, " Look, 360 00:13:14,850 --> 00:13:15,091 Nathan Buckley: we've failed because you failed." 361 00:13:15,091 --> 00:13:16,290 Jonathan Brown: You failed yourself. 362 00:13:16,290 --> 00:13:19,050 Nathan Buckley: " You prick." 363 00:13:19,050 --> 00:13:23,850 Jonathan Brown: Well, you first hand to see another accident when someone 364 00:13:23,850 --> 00:13:26,130 Jonathan Brown: was representing their club. When you went down the slide 365 00:13:26,130 --> 00:13:29,429 Jonathan Brown: for The Big Freeze and my coach, Chris Fagan, went 366 00:13:29,429 --> 00:13:31,650 Jonathan Brown: down the slide, Bucks, and as he was getting out 367 00:13:31,650 --> 00:13:35,130 Jonathan Brown: of the freeze pool, he tore his hamstring off the bone. 368 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:41,280 Nathan Buckley: Off the bone. I'm coaching that day, so I'm coming in late 369 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,890 Nathan Buckley: and you're behind this wall and obviously the action's happening 370 00:13:43,890 --> 00:13:46,500 Nathan Buckley: on the other side of this sheet. Then Fags comes 371 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:53,340 Nathan Buckley: out and the ambulance backs up and the stretcher's there. Fags 372 00:13:53,340 --> 00:13:56,250 Nathan Buckley: is actually getting rolled out on the stretcher. I'm thinking, is this something 373 00:13:56,250 --> 00:14:03,420 Nathan Buckley: about this slide that I haven't been told? I hope I come out of it clean, and Fags is deadset rolled into the back of 374 00:14:03,420 --> 00:14:04,620 Nathan Buckley: the ambulance and drove away. 375 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:06,839 Deano: He's on the green whistle in the ambulance. 376 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,110 Nathan Buckley: Oh, exactly. 377 00:14:07,110 --> 00:14:08,189 Jonathan Brown: He had to have an operation. 378 00:14:11,970 --> 00:14:11,971 Deano: Did he? 379 00:14:11,971 --> 00:14:11,972 Jonathan Brown: To reconnect his hamstring to the bone. 380 00:14:11,972 --> 00:14:11,973 Deano: (beep) hell. 381 00:14:11,973 --> 00:14:16,109 Nathan Buckley: I did that. I was playing touch footy in 2015, middle of winter, 382 00:14:16,110 --> 00:14:19,950 Nathan Buckley: would've been June and went down to ankle tap a 383 00:14:19,950 --> 00:14:22,620 Nathan Buckley: bloke who got through the line once, and he got 384 00:14:22,620 --> 00:14:23,671 Nathan Buckley: through a second time, I said, " No, you don't, mate." 385 00:14:23,671 --> 00:14:24,421 Jonathan Brown: No, not again. 386 00:14:24,421 --> 00:14:24,780 Nathan Buckley: " No, you don't." 387 00:14:24,780 --> 00:14:24,991 Jonathan Brown: Not on my watch. 388 00:14:24,991 --> 00:14:28,770 Nathan Buckley: I put my head down and i went hard and then 389 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:32,130 Nathan Buckley: dove at him, went to ankle tap him. Bang, sledgehammer 390 00:14:32,130 --> 00:14:32,821 Nathan Buckley: back of the left leg- 391 00:14:32,821 --> 00:14:32,822 Jonathan Brown: Really? 392 00:14:32,822 --> 00:14:34,800 Nathan Buckley: ... and ended up pulling my hammy off the bone. 393 00:14:34,890 --> 00:14:35,430 Nathan Buckley: I didn't touch him either. 394 00:14:37,530 --> 00:14:38,941 Jonathan Brown: Was that at training or in a game? 395 00:14:38,941 --> 00:14:38,942 Nathan Buckley: Hey? 396 00:14:38,942 --> 00:14:41,461 Jonathan Brown: Was that at training or you were just playing touch somewhere? 397 00:14:41,461 --> 00:14:44,400 Nathan Buckley: I was just playing touch with a few mates at Albert 398 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:49,110 Nathan Buckley: Park and it was leading into Queen's Birthday in 2015. 399 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:55,260 Nathan Buckley: I had to sit on one of those donut cushions. I had to 400 00:14:55,260 --> 00:14:58,410 Nathan Buckley: sit in the donut cushion or stand up for most of the 401 00:14:58,410 --> 00:15:00,780 Nathan Buckley: day because I refused not to be there and I 402 00:15:00,780 --> 00:15:02,910 Nathan Buckley: didn't want to use my crutches, even though I had 403 00:15:02,910 --> 00:15:03,900 Nathan Buckley: the operation. 404 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:04,230 Jonathan Brown: Mate, too good. 405 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:04,771 Nathan Buckley: No, that was no good. 406 00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:07,470 Deano: Hey, we've got to move on. But real quickly about hammys, when you do a 407 00:15:07,470 --> 00:15:09,450 Deano: bad one, is that what it feels like, getting punched 408 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:09,989 Deano: in the back of the leg? 409 00:15:10,980 --> 00:15:15,030 Nathan Buckley: When you rip it off the bone, you know when 410 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:20,550 Nathan Buckley: you go to the carnivore and you've got to whack the sledgehammer thing, I reckon someone's got one of those 411 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:26,010 Nathan Buckley: and just absolutely goes to town on your glute. 412 00:15:26,010 --> 00:15:26,160 Deano: Jesus. 413 00:15:27,540 --> 00:15:27,661 Nathan Buckley: That's what it feels like. 414 00:15:27,661 --> 00:15:27,662 Deano: Jesus. 415 00:15:27,662 --> 00:15:31,200 Nathan Buckley: In the end, your hammy comes off and then it wraps around 416 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,540 Nathan Buckley: your sciatic and your nerves and you can't straighten your 417 00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:36,000 Nathan Buckley: leg and it's bloody painful. It's terrible. 418 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Deano: Jesus. 419 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,330 Nathan Buckley: The only thing that helped me was the fact that it was probably minus one 420 00:15:39,570 --> 00:15:43,770 Nathan Buckley: at the time. It was halfway through the second half. 421 00:15:44,580 --> 00:15:50,670 Nathan Buckley: Hamish McLachlan, Trev Hendy was playing, Brent Sanderson, Paul McCrory. 422 00:15:50,670 --> 00:15:51,720 Jonathan Brown: Just a few mates. 423 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,050 Nathan Buckley: Yeah. Then they ended up dragging me by my ankle, 424 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,710 Nathan Buckley: dragged me to the side of the field, just threw their puffer jackets over the top of me and 425 00:15:59,310 --> 00:16:00,990 Nathan Buckley: went back and played, and then I'm calling- 426 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:02,431 Jonathan Brown: Mate, you're like a soldier on the battlefield. 427 00:16:02,431 --> 00:16:07,680 Nathan Buckley: ... Julian Vellore from under about 12 puffer jackets, " I think 428 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,730 Nathan Buckley: I need your help." 429 00:16:08,730 --> 00:16:08,940 Deano: Jesus. 430 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:09,239 Jonathan Brown: Well, there you go. 431 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:12,120 Deano: Hey, these split rounds and Jon, you're on the same 432 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,580 Deano: page as me, they're ruining my life. It's three weeks 433 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:16,980 Deano: of interrupt football, it's bullshit. What do you reckon? 434 00:16:16,980 --> 00:16:19,830 Jonathan Brown: Well, we all want a bye. I think the players need to freshen up and 435 00:16:20,850 --> 00:16:23,310 Jonathan Brown: the coaches need to freshen up. But I hate the 436 00:16:23,310 --> 00:16:25,050 Jonathan Brown: fact that we do it over three weeks. It feel 437 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:27,450 Jonathan Brown: like the game loses momentum. Clearly the best game of 438 00:16:27,450 --> 00:16:29,850 Jonathan Brown: the round, I think, was going to be Carlton and 439 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:32,850 Jonathan Brown: Richmond on the fixture, and then it just peters away. There's 440 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:36,181 Jonathan Brown: no real blockbusters. I don't like it being over three weeks, Bucks. 441 00:16:36,181 --> 00:16:36,182 Nathan Buckley: I don't mind it at all. 442 00:16:36,182 --> 00:16:36,392 Deano: What? 443 00:16:39,270 --> 00:16:43,290 Nathan Buckley: I don't mind it. You get some average games. I think the problem 444 00:16:43,290 --> 00:16:47,491 Nathan Buckley: for us was the GWS/ North game last week, wasn't it? 445 00:16:47,491 --> 00:16:48,030 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, it was. 446 00:16:48,030 --> 00:16:48,181 Nathan Buckley: That was the marquee game. 447 00:16:48,181 --> 00:16:54,989 Jonathan Brown: Marquee game at Marvel Stadium, the only fixture for the round. Lucky we got a good 448 00:16:54,990 --> 00:16:56,070 Jonathan Brown: game Collingwood/ Melbourne. 449 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,250 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, exactly. But, I mean, you still have bad games 450 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:04,590 Nathan Buckley: in a nine game round. I just think you need 451 00:17:04,590 --> 00:17:07,320 Nathan Buckley: it, you do need it. But would you prefer to 452 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,390 Nathan Buckley: have a weekend without footy? Is that what you're saying? 453 00:17:09,810 --> 00:17:13,080 Jonathan Brown: I loved when you guys used to play Sydney on 454 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,420 Jonathan Brown: a Friday night, it was a big celebration, a big 455 00:17:15,420 --> 00:17:19,470 Jonathan Brown: fixture in Sydney. They'd get 70 or 80,000 people, I think it was, out at the 456 00:17:19,470 --> 00:17:23,160 Jonathan Brown: Olympic Stadium, out at Homebush, and then the rest of the weekend off 457 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,100 Jonathan Brown: and then there would be eight games the following weekend. I just thought 458 00:17:26,100 --> 00:17:27,270 Jonathan Brown: that was a really good mix. 459 00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:27,630 Deano: Right on. 460 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,919 Nathan Buckley: With three six game weekends, wouldn't you be able to 461 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,409 Nathan Buckley: make sure that there's a marquee game on a Friday, 462 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:37,350 Nathan Buckley: a marquee game on a Saturday night and then just 463 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:38,430 Nathan Buckley: fill it up from there? 464 00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:41,820 Jonathan Brown: I'm not sure Thursday night works when there's six games. 465 00:17:42,330 --> 00:17:43,141 Jonathan Brown: Thursday night works when there's nine and you want to spread it out. 466 00:17:43,141 --> 00:17:43,291 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, good call. 467 00:17:45,660 --> 00:17:47,910 Jonathan Brown: Maybe we keep the Thursday nighters to when we go 468 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:52,530 Jonathan Brown: back to school holidays. You have the Thursday nighters then. School 469 00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:53,730 Jonathan Brown: holidays are about to come up. 470 00:17:53,790 --> 00:17:54,300 Deano: Are you listening? 471 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:59,760 Nathan Buckley: I'm big on Thursday the whole year round. I think we need that and I think 472 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Nathan Buckley: that's going to be a broadcasting thing. The way that 473 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,030 Nathan Buckley: they sell media rights and broadcasting rights over in the States, 474 00:18:06,030 --> 00:18:09,810 Nathan Buckley: they just chop it up. That broadcaster gets Thursdays, that 475 00:18:09,810 --> 00:18:13,350 Nathan Buckley: broadcaster gets Saturday nights, that one Friday. I think that's 476 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:14,160 Nathan Buckley: what it'll end up being. 477 00:18:14,190 --> 00:18:16,919 Deano: Josh Frydenberg, are you listening? We want these changes to be 478 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,370 Deano: made. 479 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,011 Jonathan Brown: (inaudible) top job. 480 00:18:20,011 --> 00:18:26,850 Nathan Buckley: The bloke that probably was most significant in his downfall politically 481 00:18:26,910 --> 00:18:29,490 Nathan Buckley: was the guy that went around and filled out his 482 00:18:30,420 --> 00:18:33,629 Nathan Buckley: right front tooth on all of the posters that I drove past. 483 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:34,260 Jonathan Brown: Did you see that? 484 00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:34,261 Deano: Yeah, man. I've seen it. 485 00:18:34,261 --> 00:18:39,119 Nathan Buckley: Every poster, his right front tooth was painted out. Then you'd come 486 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,490 Nathan Buckley: the next day and it'd be back white. 487 00:18:41,490 --> 00:18:42,090 Jonathan Brown: It's be back white. 488 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,380 Nathan Buckley: There was someone, or an army of people out there 489 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:47,940 Nathan Buckley: that were responsible for his downfall. 490 00:18:47,940 --> 00:18:48,180 Deano: Monitoring. 491 00:18:48,180 --> 00:18:50,430 Jonathan Brown: Monique Ryan's people were going around and painting one tooth. 492 00:18:51,210 --> 00:18:51,211 Nathan Buckley: Unbelievable. 493 00:18:51,211 --> 00:18:54,149 Deano: Hey, up until now, Bucks, this podcast has been all 494 00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:57,210 Deano: Skittles and rainbows because right now, me and you are going into the cone 495 00:18:57,210 --> 00:18:59,429 Deano: of silence, and once we're in there, it's just me and 496 00:18:59,430 --> 00:19:00,690 Deano: you, no one else is going to hear us. 497 00:19:00,990 --> 00:19:00,991 Nathan Buckley: Okay. 498 00:19:00,991 --> 00:19:01,260 Deano: I'm going to lower the cone. 499 00:19:01,260 --> 00:19:04,109 Nathan Buckley: Well, if it's the cone of silence, I'm not going 500 00:19:04,109 --> 00:19:04,500 Nathan Buckley: to talk. 501 00:19:04,859 --> 00:19:05,490 Deano: Bullshit. 502 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,590 Nathan Buckley: I like what you've done with the place. 503 00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:20,460 Deano: It's pretty good, hey? You like that smell? It's a special plant I like. Hey, 504 00:19:21,030 --> 00:19:23,550 Deano: just exactly how shit are my Eagles? 505 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,500 Nathan Buckley: They're really poor, aren't they? 506 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,220 Deano: Yeah. 507 00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:31,590 Nathan Buckley: They've got a few back this weekend. But they're going 508 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:36,660 Nathan Buckley: worse than their injuries or their personnel concerns would suggest. 509 00:19:37,650 --> 00:19:39,629 Nathan Buckley: I think in the end, there just becomes a breaking 510 00:19:39,630 --> 00:19:43,740 Nathan Buckley: point when you're actually forgetting what you're playing for and I 511 00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:45,540 Nathan Buckley: think they've been there for a little while, unfortunately. 512 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:46,590 Deano: We're busted, hey? 513 00:19:46,890 --> 00:19:46,980 Nathan Buckley: Yes. 514 00:19:46,980 --> 00:19:52,560 Deano: Speaking of the Eagles, I want to talk about a specific game involving 515 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,810 Deano: the Eagles. I'm not going to be a dick about 516 00:19:54,810 --> 00:19:55,139 Deano: this. 517 00:20:00,570 --> 00:20:00,571 Jonathan Brown: Righto. Come on. 518 00:20:00,571 --> 00:20:00,571 Nathan Buckley: 2020? 519 00:20:00,571 --> 00:20:01,321 Deano: You're not in the (beep) cone, all right? 520 00:20:01,321 --> 00:20:02,641 Nathan Buckley: 2020, the elimination final, is that the one you want to hit? 521 00:20:02,641 --> 00:20:06,869 Deano: Correct. I'm going to extend the olive branch because we both 522 00:20:06,869 --> 00:20:10,020 Deano: got screwed over in poignant grand final moments. I'll take 523 00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:13,260 Deano: you back to 2005 when Leo Barry took that specky. 524 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,570 Deano: That's all people talk about. But if you look at 525 00:20:15,570 --> 00:20:19,080 Deano: that god damn shot, Ashley Sampi's getting man handled. It's 526 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,290 Deano: a free kick. Similar to Maynard and Willie Rioli. What 527 00:20:22,290 --> 00:20:22,740 Deano: do you think? 528 00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:24,810 Nathan Buckley: Not similar at all, because he was in a pack 529 00:20:24,810 --> 00:20:27,270 Nathan Buckley: and Maynard was out in the open. It should've been easy 530 00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:27,689 Nathan Buckley: to see. 531 00:20:28,410 --> 00:20:30,660 Deano: But I can move on from the Leo- 532 00:20:30,660 --> 00:20:32,639 Nathan Buckley: Because you've had a win, yes. 533 00:20:32,670 --> 00:20:33,000 Deano: Shit. 534 00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:34,920 Nathan Buckley: Let's get out of this cone. 535 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,840 Jonathan Brown: That's a shit question, Deano. 536 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,940 Deano: Hey, you're shit. Your face is shit. 537 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:41,220 Nathan Buckley: Are you a Perth boy? 538 00:20:41,310 --> 00:20:41,820 Deano: Yeah. 539 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,050 Nathan Buckley: How long have you been over here for? 540 00:20:43,109 --> 00:20:43,740 Deano: 10 years. 541 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:46,050 Nathan Buckley: Okay. You still haven't lost the Eagles in the blood. 542 00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:46,199 Deano: No, man. 543 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Nathan Buckley: Well done. 544 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,220 Deano: It's a disease. Hey, do you secretly think most people 545 00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:53,040 Deano: in football media are as dumb as a carrot? 546 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:55,771 Nathan Buckley: No, I don't. 547 00:20:55,771 --> 00:20:55,921 Deano: Bullshit. 548 00:20:57,450 --> 00:20:59,250 Nathan Buckley: Actually, you know what I have worked out, is how 549 00:20:59,250 --> 00:21:03,119 Nathan Buckley: hard some guys work to prepare and how- 550 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,580 Jonathan Brown: Thanks for looking at me, Bucks. 551 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,010 Nathan Buckley: I want you to come along with talking about the 552 00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:12,240 Nathan Buckley: people that prepare hard, mate. 553 00:21:12,420 --> 00:21:13,710 Jonathan Brown: Absolutely. I'm with you. 554 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,380 Nathan Buckley: I work with Cornesy at SEN, Gerard Whateley, those two, 555 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:21,600 Nathan Buckley: the amount of work they do behind the scenes is 556 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,919 Nathan Buckley: huge. Kingy does a power of work- 557 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:23,100 Jonathan Brown: He does. 558 00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:28,741 Nathan Buckley: ... at Fox. There's a lot of people that do a shit load of work. 559 00:21:28,741 --> 00:21:29,790 Jonathan Brown: Gaz loves his notes. Gaz has got a heap of notes, doesn't he? 560 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,869 Nathan Buckley: Well, he's up on it. He's up on everything. 561 00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:35,550 Deano: But then you've got the people that just get on 562 00:21:35,550 --> 00:21:36,600 Deano: the drink like Robbo. 563 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,590 Nathan Buckley: Are we still in the cone? 564 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:41,100 Deano: We're still in the cone. 565 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,191 Brodie: (inaudible) the whole time. 566 00:21:41,191 --> 00:21:41,491 Deano: Say that again, Brodes. 567 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,141 Brodie: (inaudible) the whole time. 568 00:21:43,141 --> 00:21:44,580 Nathan Buckley: Timmy Watson's a gun. I love Timmy Watson. 569 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:48,030 Jonathan Brown: The wisp. 570 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Nathan Buckley: The wispy. 571 00:21:49,170 --> 00:21:54,180 Deano: All right. Final question. Without saying any specific, if camera 572 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:57,600 Deano: phones were back in the day of your peak, would 573 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Deano: you have got into trouble? 574 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:07,500 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, absolutely. I'm often amazed that my reputation escaped as 575 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:08,160 Nathan Buckley: well as it did. 576 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,001 Jonathan Brown: Mate, he's an Adelaide bogan. 577 00:22:09,001 --> 00:22:16,830 Nathan Buckley: Ive got this image as a footballer, the ultimate professional 578 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,189 Nathan Buckley: wanting to win. Oh my god, and I trained bloody 579 00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:24,300 Nathan Buckley: hard, but you'd get to the weekends and you basically want 580 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:28,140 Nathan Buckley: to escape. I want to escape the pressure of footy and I often did that 581 00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:33,600 Nathan Buckley: through drinking. I was probably early in my third year, 582 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,770 Nathan Buckley: I decided that I'd go eight weeks without a drink 583 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:42,270 Nathan Buckley: and see how that went. About six weeks into that, 584 00:22:42,270 --> 00:22:44,220 Nathan Buckley: Tony Shaw tapped me on the shoulder and said, "( beep) 585 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:45,060 Nathan Buckley: sake, go and have a drink." 586 00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:47,370 Jonathan Brown: Mate, my wife used to say that. 587 00:22:47,370 --> 00:22:47,371 Deano: Really? 588 00:22:47,371 --> 00:22:52,710 Jonathan Brown: I'd go on these spells without having a drink and she'd say 589 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:55,560 Jonathan Brown: the same thing, "(beep) sake, have a drink, will you? You're a boring bastard." 590 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:01,500 Nathan Buckley: But see, it wasn't the alcohol, because that's not great for you. It's 591 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:04,050 Nathan Buckley: not good for your body and it probably ages you 592 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:07,830 Nathan Buckley: really quickly, especially as an elite athlete. But it's just 593 00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:10,440 Nathan Buckley: the idea of escaping. It's the idea of getting away from 594 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Nathan Buckley: the pressure and forgetting all of this responsibility that you have. 595 00:23:13,890 --> 00:23:16,830 Nathan Buckley: When you're a young man, I guess we were talking about Horne- Francis, 596 00:23:16,830 --> 00:23:21,990 Nathan Buckley: but for me, I didn't start till I was 21, but 21, 22, 23, 597 00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:25,710 Nathan Buckley: I felt so much pressure to perform and put a 598 00:23:25,710 --> 00:23:29,220 Nathan Buckley: lot of pressure on myself. You couldn't deal with that 24/ 599 00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:32,460 Nathan Buckley: 7, so you're looking for ways to escape, and for 600 00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:36,990 Nathan Buckley: me, it was drinking too heavily on a weekend. 601 00:23:37,020 --> 00:23:39,540 Jonathan Brown: It's quite topical at the moment because Bailey Smith today, 602 00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:43,830 Jonathan Brown: Bucks, has just been announced a sanction, two weeks for what 603 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:46,619 Jonathan Brown: happened these with his video, with the powder or whatever 604 00:23:46,619 --> 00:23:50,879 Jonathan Brown: it may be. Obviously now as an experienced campaigner in 605 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,810 Jonathan Brown: football and an ex coach, how do you view this whole subject? 606 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,840 Nathan Buckley: Well, for one, I'm a father, I've got young boys 607 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:05,100 Nathan Buckley: and you don't want them to go down a path 608 00:24:05,130 --> 00:24:11,580 Nathan Buckley: that is going to stuff their lives. We think that 609 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:14,879 Nathan Buckley: elicit drugs does that, we think that alcohol does that. 610 00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:17,550 Nathan Buckley: There's plenty of other coping mechanisms that are not good for you, 611 00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:22,919 Nathan Buckley: but they might not do as much potentially longterm damaging. 612 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,419 Nathan Buckley: But my alcohol- 613 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:28,381 Deano: Abuse. 614 00:24:28,381 --> 00:24:32,550 Nathan Buckley: ... abuse ... Yeah, it was. That coping mechanism, if you fast 615 00:24:32,550 --> 00:24:36,750 Nathan Buckley: forward that to now, if I had the same situation, 616 00:24:36,750 --> 00:24:41,010 Nathan Buckley: the mentality, trying to look for coping mechanisms of 30 617 00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:45,060 Nathan Buckley: years ago and projected it into now, I reckon I 618 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:50,790 Nathan Buckley: would've found myself in Bailey Smith's shoes. To judge is 619 00:24:50,790 --> 00:24:53,520 Nathan Buckley: really tough, and I think Bevo's done it really well. 620 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,139 Nathan Buckley: I think the Bulldogs are doing it really well. But 621 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:59,940 Nathan Buckley: at the same time, we understand that we're trying to 622 00:25:00,090 --> 00:25:03,270 Nathan Buckley: put these guys on a pedestal as role models. To 623 00:25:03,270 --> 00:25:05,790 Nathan Buckley: try and find that balance, and there's an expectation that 624 00:25:05,790 --> 00:25:06,689 Nathan Buckley: comes with that as well. 625 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:11,550 Jonathan Brown: Just quickly, Bucks, do agree with the drug policy in 626 00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:12,390 Jonathan Brown: some form? 627 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:17,550 Nathan Buckley: I think the policy that's been in place is so 628 00:25:17,790 --> 00:25:23,730 Nathan Buckley: ridiculously flawed and ineffective. It's not about fining people at 629 00:25:23,730 --> 00:25:30,000 Nathan Buckley: all. It's about welfare and I suppose trying to get 630 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,580 Nathan Buckley: people to manage themselves out of it. But I've been 631 00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:36,929 Nathan Buckley: in it as a player, I've been in it as 632 00:25:36,930 --> 00:25:41,730 Nathan Buckley: a coach and now I'm outside it, I don't know how effective it's 633 00:25:41,730 --> 00:25:44,159 Nathan Buckley: been, but I know that it was abused by the players at 634 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,869 Nathan Buckley: the time when they found loopholes. But only the people 635 00:25:48,869 --> 00:25:51,659 Nathan Buckley: that run it, the doctors that run it, Peter Harcourt etc, 636 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,800 Nathan Buckley: at the AFL, would know how many people it's actually helped, 637 00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:59,340 Nathan Buckley: and until you have that perspective, I reckon it'd be 638 00:25:59,340 --> 00:26:01,590 Nathan Buckley: pretty hard to judge how effective. But from mine, on 639 00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:04,860 Nathan Buckley: this side, there was too many loopholes. 640 00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:07,800 Deano: Bucks, I'm of the firm belief that people in footy 641 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,010 Deano: media are very naïve about how many current players are 642 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:13,379 Deano: on the gear, because they can and they do it 643 00:26:13,380 --> 00:26:13,620 Deano: a lot. 644 00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:19,740 Nathan Buckley: Well, I agree. I mean, I know I'm naïve about 645 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:25,890 Nathan Buckley: how prevalent it is in society, full stop. I don't 646 00:26:25,890 --> 00:26:28,590 Nathan Buckley: get propositioned about it often, I'm not in that space, 647 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:34,590 Nathan Buckley: but when it comes, I reckon it's really infrequent and 648 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,270 Nathan Buckley: I reckon it is a bit of the personality or the 649 00:26:39,270 --> 00:26:43,951 Nathan Buckley: perception of who you are as a guy and I just- 650 00:26:43,951 --> 00:26:45,090 Jonathan Brown: As to why people don't confront you. 651 00:26:45,091 --> 00:26:45,092 Nathan Buckley: Well, I just go, "What about it?" 652 00:26:45,092 --> 00:26:51,300 Jonathan Brown: Absolutely. I find that as well myself. You don't think it exists. 653 00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:55,350 Nathan Buckley: But the other thing is that people that are in that space, 654 00:26:55,410 --> 00:26:58,230 Nathan Buckley: they won't try and pull someone in who they think 655 00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:59,400 Nathan Buckley: is going to challenge that behaviour- 656 00:26:59,400 --> 00:26:59,401 Jonathan Brown: Absolutely. 657 00:26:59,401 --> 00:27:00,780 Nathan Buckley: ... because you don't want to be challenged. 658 00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:01,020 Jonathan Brown: Spot on. 659 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,310 Deano: All right. Let's raise the cone. Sorry, that's the wrong 660 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:11,071 Deano: cone. Did you like that, brother? 661 00:27:11,071 --> 00:27:12,570 Nathan Buckley: I did. But did you realize there's a door on the side and 662 00:27:12,570 --> 00:27:13,260 Nathan Buckley: Browny came in? 663 00:27:14,670 --> 00:27:18,570 Deano: Ads. Back in a second. Welcome back to Browny's Podcast. PointsBet 664 00:27:19,530 --> 00:27:22,620 Deano: and JB, it feels weird having someone that's offering something. 665 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:25,950 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, I know. Unlike Campbell Brown who just sits there. 666 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,030 Jonathan Brown: He tells a story, laughs at his own story and 667 00:27:30,030 --> 00:27:31,171 Jonathan Brown: then he goes back to his phone and starts punting. 668 00:27:31,171 --> 00:27:31,261 Nathan Buckley: And disengages. 669 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,340 Jonathan Brown: Disengages. 670 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,109 Deano: He clips his toenails. 671 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,609 Jonathan Brown: Clipped his toenails in here one day. There was Toenail- gate, Bucks. Was caught 672 00:27:38,609 --> 00:27:41,071 Jonathan Brown: on the cameras clipping his toenails, actually picked them with his hands. 673 00:27:41,071 --> 00:27:41,071 Deano: Yeah, man. 674 00:27:41,071 --> 00:27:41,072 Nathan Buckley: Oh, really? 675 00:27:41,072 --> 00:27:41,162 Deano: Oh, yeah. 676 00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:46,290 Brodie: How close were you to drafting Campbell Brown after he 677 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:47,970 Brodie: punched Steven May in the face and got sacked from 678 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,409 Brodie: the Gold Coast? Did you think about it? Did you 679 00:27:49,410 --> 00:27:51,000 Brodie: think Campbell would be a good addition to the side? 680 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,480 Brodie: What'd you think? 681 00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:56,760 Nathan Buckley: Oh, no, how big is the universe? From one side to the other, 682 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,720 Nathan Buckley: we were nowhere near him. 683 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,181 Brodie: I just wanted to get that on- 684 00:28:00,181 --> 00:28:03,240 Deano: How big is the universe, that distance. 685 00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:06,090 Jonathan Brown: We just want to clarify, too, I'm going to take you back to a team 686 00:28:06,090 --> 00:28:11,340 Jonathan Brown: meeting when you're coaching, Bucks. There'd be a lot of 687 00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:13,560 Jonathan Brown: magnets up there and there'd be some magnets would get 688 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,430 Jonathan Brown: circles, invariably the star players, tough match ups. At any 689 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:20,910 Jonathan Brown: stage, was there any attention focused on Campbell Brown in 690 00:28:20,910 --> 00:28:23,280 Jonathan Brown: either his Hawthorn days or his Gold Coast Suns days, 691 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:23,940 Jonathan Brown: as a coach? 692 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:31,560 Nathan Buckley: No. You know where I thought you were going, and 693 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,869 Nathan Buckley: I had an answer, I thought you were going to 694 00:28:33,869 --> 00:28:37,410 Nathan Buckley: say about players that weren't paying attention the way Campbell wasn't paying attention. 695 00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:39,959 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, if you've got some of those. 696 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,680 Nathan Buckley: There was a meeting about two or three years ago 697 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:46,801 Nathan Buckley: and Jordy had a pen and paper- 698 00:28:46,801 --> 00:28:46,802 Jonathan Brown: Jordy De Goey. 699 00:28:46,802 --> 00:28:46,803 Nathan Buckley: Jordy De Goey. 700 00:28:46,803 --> 00:28:47,162 Jonathan Brown: Beautiful. 701 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Nathan Buckley: He's doodling away and I sort of noticed and he's 702 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,870 Nathan Buckley: not really paying attention. I said, " What are you doing there, Jordy?" 703 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,591 Nathan Buckley: He goes, " Just doodling." I said, " Show me what you've got." 704 00:28:58,591 --> 00:28:58,710 Brodie: Oh, no. 705 00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:06,000 Nathan Buckley: A dick pic. I made him get up in front of the 706 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,631 Nathan Buckley: group and show them. He got a decent laugh. 707 00:29:06,631 --> 00:29:15,420 Deano: Ah, yes, now it's time to play Australia's favorite game. It's teammate revision. PointsBet, 708 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:16,200 Deano: take it away. 709 00:29:16,290 --> 00:29:18,480 Brodie: All right, Bucks. This is a game that I've played with Brown Dog 710 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,210 Brodie: and with Browny before. Essentially, you played for a long time, 711 00:29:21,210 --> 00:29:23,460 Brodie: and you played with a lot of people. Do you 712 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:25,680 Brodie: think you remember most of those people that you played with? 713 00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:29,040 Nathan Buckley: I'm not the best. Scott Burns is the best, but 714 00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:29,521 Nathan Buckley: I'm happy to have a crack. 715 00:29:29,521 --> 00:29:29,522 Brodie: All right. 716 00:29:29,522 --> 00:29:33,331 Jonathan Brown: I'm looking forward to this so much, because Brown Dog was shit house at it. 717 00:29:33,331 --> 00:29:35,071 Brodie: He was so bad, honestly. Are you ready? 718 00:29:35,071 --> 00:29:35,130 Nathan Buckley: I don't know. 719 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:40,680 Brodie: Ready. Who is this player? 720 00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:42,780 Nathan Buckley: That is Paul Sharkey. 721 00:29:43,230 --> 00:29:43,231 Brodie: It is. 722 00:29:43,231 --> 00:29:43,350 Nathan Buckley: He's from Bendigo. 723 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:45,660 Jonathan Brown: Mate, that is a good get. 724 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:47,490 Deano: One from one, Bucks. 725 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:58,621 Nathan Buckley: He lived with me for a couple months in his first couple of years. 726 00:29:58,621 --> 00:29:58,622 Deano: There we go. 727 00:29:58,622 --> 00:29:58,623 Brodie: He played 26 games for Collingwood. 728 00:29:58,623 --> 00:29:58,623 Jonathan Brown: Do your homework, Brodes. You can't have a (beep) roommate. 729 00:29:58,623 --> 00:29:58,624 Deano: That's unlucky. 730 00:29:58,624 --> 00:29:59,910 Brodie: He played 26 games for Collingwood, it's not as if he was around for a long time. 731 00:29:59,910 --> 00:30:00,840 Deano: One from one. 732 00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:04,950 Jonathan Brown: Now, Brodes and Bucks are sitting opposite sides of the studio. Bucks can't 733 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:05,550 Jonathan Brown: see the names. 734 00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:06,540 Deano: Like Dog was before. 735 00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:08,310 Brodie: All right. I'm going to show you another photo. Ready? 736 00:30:11,850 --> 00:30:11,851 Nathan Buckley: Okay. 737 00:30:11,851 --> 00:30:11,852 Brodie: Who is this player? 738 00:30:11,852 --> 00:30:11,853 Nathan Buckley: That is Chaddy Rintoul. 739 00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:11,854 Brodie: It is. 740 00:30:11,854 --> 00:30:15,181 Nathan Buckley: Played for Adelaide before he came to us. 741 00:30:15,181 --> 00:30:15,182 Deano: And Eagles. 742 00:30:15,182 --> 00:30:15,183 Nathan Buckley: And Eagles, yeah. 743 00:30:15,183 --> 00:30:15,453 Brodie: He played 14 games for Collingwood. 744 00:30:19,260 --> 00:30:23,730 Nathan Buckley: He was sitting on magnetic beds because he had some 745 00:30:23,730 --> 00:30:25,951 Nathan Buckley: concussion issues late. You remember those magnetic beds? 746 00:30:25,951 --> 00:30:27,810 Jonathan Brown: I remember those magnetic beds. 747 00:30:27,810 --> 00:30:28,740 Deano: He's a Scientologist. 748 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,970 Nathan Buckley: Well, he was a little bit different, Chaddy. He's a ripper, absolute hard 749 00:30:32,970 --> 00:30:35,940 Nathan Buckley: nut, but saw the world differently. 750 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:39,480 Jonathan Brown: To be honest, how was he not going to pick 751 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,460 Jonathan Brown: Chad Rintoul? He's a premiership player for Adelaide. 752 00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:44,880 Brodie: I was just checking. He was a late inclusion because I had to do a double check this 753 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,650 Brodie: morning because I had a photo- 754 00:30:46,650 --> 00:30:46,651 Deano: Two from two. 755 00:30:46,651 --> 00:30:48,570 Brodie: ... of a guy that died. I had to double check. 756 00:30:48,570 --> 00:30:49,260 Nathan Buckley: Jamie Tape. 757 00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:52,411 Brodie: Yeah. I had to scratch him out of the lineup. 758 00:30:52,411 --> 00:30:52,412 Nathan Buckley: Was it Jamie Tape? 759 00:30:52,412 --> 00:30:52,413 Brodie: Yeah, it was. 760 00:30:52,413 --> 00:30:52,414 Jonathan Brown: Or a Brisbane Lions former staff member that Deano killed earlier in the show. 761 00:30:52,414 --> 00:30:52,415 Brodie: No. 762 00:30:52,415 --> 00:30:52,416 Deano: Two from two, Bucks is killing it. 763 00:30:52,416 --> 00:30:52,716 Brodie: All right. Who is this player? 764 00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:03,450 Nathan Buckley: That is Trent Hotton. 765 00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:04,290 Brodie: It is. 766 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:11,281 Nathan Buckley: He's currently working at Melbourne- 767 00:31:11,281 --> 00:31:11,282 Deano: Kings? 768 00:31:11,282 --> 00:31:11,880 Nathan Buckley: ... United. 769 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,290 Jonathan Brown: He's soccer. 770 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:17,010 Nathan Buckley: He came up through Leading Teams, he started doing some 771 00:31:17,010 --> 00:31:20,850 Nathan Buckley: leading team stuff. Now he's doing Leading Teams with Melbourne United. 772 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640 Deano: Bucks is naming the person and giving background information. 773 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:23,790 Brodie: I know. 774 00:31:23,790 --> 00:31:26,100 Jonathan Brown: Mate, you are going to need Leading Teams after this. 775 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:26,731 Brodie: It's quite impressive. 776 00:31:26,731 --> 00:31:27,720 Jonathan Brown: A little bit of a stop/ start peat for you. 777 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,200 Deano: Three from three. 778 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:28,620 Brodie: All right. 779 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,990 Nathan Buckley: I didn't realize I was this interested. 780 00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:31,321 Deano: Mate, very good. 781 00:31:31,321 --> 00:31:31,621 Nathan Buckley: It's good. 782 00:31:31,710 --> 00:31:33,060 Brodie: Who is this player? 783 00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:35,611 Nathan Buckley: That is Robert Pyman. 784 00:31:35,611 --> 00:31:41,310 Brodie: He's very good, isn't he? He's very good. 785 00:31:41,310 --> 00:31:45,810 Nathan Buckley: We were archenemies in the South Australian footy league in '91, '92. 786 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,291 Nathan Buckley: He played for- 787 00:31:46,291 --> 00:31:47,100 Jonathan Brown: Who'd he play for? 788 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:47,101 Brodie: Westville? 789 00:31:47,101 --> 00:31:51,240 Nathan Buckley: ... Woodville- West Torrens. He was the Eagles over there. 790 00:31:53,010 --> 00:31:54,870 Nathan Buckley: We hated each other with a passion. 791 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:55,140 Jonathan Brown: Really? 792 00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:56,100 Nathan Buckley: Hated each other. 793 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:57,181 Jonathan Brown: Because he was a star junior, I reckon, Robert Pyman. 794 00:31:57,181 --> 00:32:01,800 Nathan Buckley: Yeah. I was cocky and arrogant as all hell and I used 795 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440 Nathan Buckley: to strut around and country boy hated it. 796 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Jonathan Brown: That's great. 797 00:32:05,730 --> 00:32:07,140 Nathan Buckley: Then we ended up getting to know each other when 798 00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:09,180 Nathan Buckley: he come to Collingwood. He's a ripping fella. 799 00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:09,870 Deano: Four from four. 800 00:32:09,870 --> 00:32:11,641 Jonathan Brown: But he's only giving you the answers, he's giving you the Wikipedia page for each person. 801 00:32:11,641 --> 00:32:16,950 Brodie: I know. What are the chances of me picking his mortal enemy when they 802 00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:17,610 Brodie: were younger? 803 00:32:17,610 --> 00:32:18,060 Deano: Good point. All right. Here we go. 804 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,030 Brodie: All right. Next up. Who is this player? 805 00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:23,340 Nathan Buckley: That's Lee Walker. 806 00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:25,020 Brodie: Jesus. 807 00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:28,650 Nathan Buckley: Tangles. The Paddle Pop Lion. He did about four ACLs, 808 00:32:28,650 --> 00:32:29,881 Nathan Buckley: the poor fella, and did his shoulder. 809 00:32:29,881 --> 00:32:30,271 Jonathan Brown: He did, too. 810 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:31,560 Brodie: He played 16 games for Collingwood. 16 games. 811 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,261 Jonathan Brown: Well, that's why. Bucks just told you he had four ACLs. 812 00:32:34,261 --> 00:32:40,110 Nathan Buckley: He is one of the champion men that you'll ever meet. He's such 813 00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:40,890 Nathan Buckley: a great fella. 814 00:32:41,310 --> 00:32:41,791 Deano: Is that all of them? 815 00:32:41,791 --> 00:32:41,792 Brodie: I've got one more. 816 00:32:41,792 --> 00:32:41,793 Jonathan Brown: What's he doing now? 817 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:41,883 Deano: One more. 818 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,550 Nathan Buckley: He's over in Perth. He was working with youth. I 819 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:51,450 Nathan Buckley: think he's a teacher. Ripping guy. 820 00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:53,280 Deano: All right. We'll get a drum roll because you're one 821 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,810 Deano: away from a clean sweep, Bucks. 822 00:32:54,810 --> 00:32:56,101 Brodie: You know your players. Who is this? 823 00:32:56,101 --> 00:32:56,220 Nathan Buckley: That's not Robbie Ahmat, is it? 824 00:32:57,690 --> 00:33:01,771 Brodie: Yes. We've got him. It's not the great Robbie Ahmat. 825 00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:01,772 Nathan Buckley: Did you change his eyes? 826 00:33:01,772 --> 00:33:01,773 Deano: Oh, it isn't? 827 00:33:01,773 --> 00:33:01,774 Nathan Buckley: It's not him. 828 00:33:01,774 --> 00:33:14,070 Brodie: It's not. It is Troy Lehman. 829 00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:14,400 Jonathan Brown: Yes. 830 00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:22,260 Nathan Buckley: No wonder I didn't know him. I didn't play with him. That's a technicality. 831 00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:24,360 Jonathan Brown: Mate, no, he was at Brisbane and Collingwood. You must 832 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:24,721 Jonathan Brown: have played with him. 833 00:33:24,721 --> 00:33:24,901 Nathan Buckley: You know why I don't know? 834 00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:26,580 Jonathan Brown: Why? 835 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,850 Nathan Buckley: Because when I went to Collingwood, he went to Brisbane. That was the swap. 836 00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:31,290 Deano: No good, Brodes, no good. 837 00:33:31,950 --> 00:33:35,490 Jonathan Brown: Mate, I had a beer with Troy Lehman in the bar the other 838 00:33:35,490 --> 00:33:37,950 Jonathan Brown: night after the hall of fame and your name came up 839 00:33:37,950 --> 00:33:38,761 Jonathan Brown: and he goes, " Oh, yeah, Bucks is a great bloke." 840 00:33:38,761 --> 00:33:39,301 Nathan Buckley: You know what, he and Starc were the two that came- 841 00:33:39,301 --> 00:33:39,302 Jonathan Brown: They were swapped over. 842 00:33:39,302 --> 00:33:49,110 Nathan Buckley: ... and pick 12 for me to go to Collingwood. 843 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:50,250 Jonathan Brown: That was part of the swap for Bucks. 844 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,950 Nathan Buckley: Technicality, you haven't got me. 845 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:57,240 Deano: JB, me, Pangy, your old man and you were supposed to 846 00:33:57,540 --> 00:34:00,060 Deano: play golf today, but we're sludged out. It's too wet. 847 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,290 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, we're supposed to play golf, aren't we? I think we might cancel. 848 00:34:04,290 --> 00:34:10,080 Jonathan Brown: I went and played with him and my manager and Bucks' manager, Craig 849 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,540 Jonathan Brown: Kelly, former teammate of yours, Bucks. 850 00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:14,250 Deano: He'll be my manager one day, let me tell you. 851 00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:14,969 Deano: I guarantee it. 852 00:34:14,969 --> 00:34:18,331 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, he will be. Old cement head took us out to Huntingdale, his local course. 853 00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:22,080 Nathan Buckley: Is that him regressing, or you pushing up? 854 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,650 Deano: Bucks, bullshit. 855 00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:23,131 Nathan Buckley: I just want to know. 856 00:34:23,131 --> 00:34:24,779 Deano: He's be lucky to have me, I'll tell you. 857 00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:27,420 Jonathan Brown: Mate, you're going to take him to the heights of management. It'd be like 858 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:28,140 Jonathan Brown: Jerry McGuire. 859 00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:29,610 Deano: Your old man's on the golf course. 860 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,040 Jonathan Brown: Old man's on the golf course and there's a lot of 861 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,350 Jonathan Brown: bunkers at Huntingdale, Bucks. A lot of sand. The old 862 00:34:34,350 --> 00:34:38,940 Jonathan Brown: man, he kept away from the end of the fuse till about 863 00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:40,620 Jonathan Brown: the 14th hole and he couldn't get out of a 864 00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:44,910 Jonathan Brown: bunker at one stage. Next minute, you hear the distinctive 865 00:34:44,910 --> 00:34:48,029 Jonathan Brown: sound of a whip, of a club hitting a golf 866 00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:50,850 Jonathan Brown: bag, and the next words were, " You ( beep)." 867 00:34:55,620 --> 00:34:57,239 Nathan Buckley: This really is loose, this podcast? 868 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,510 Jonathan Brown: Oh, yes. Don't worry. That'll be beeped out, that last word. 869 00:35:00,510 --> 00:35:03,359 Deano: That'll get bleeped. Brian, though, is a refined man in my eyes. 870 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,790 Jonathan Brown: A refined man. You would've heard it from two k's away in the 871 00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:10,469 Jonathan Brown: clubhouse. Brian, former school teacher, butter wouldn't melt in his 872 00:35:10,469 --> 00:35:13,469 Jonathan Brown: mouth apparently, but Huntingdale got the best of him. Mate, it 873 00:35:13,469 --> 00:35:17,940 Jonathan Brown: was unbelievable. Ned started pissing himself, he goes, " Good to see the 874 00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:19,589 Jonathan Brown: old boy hasn't lost his competitiveness." 875 00:35:19,590 --> 00:35:21,001 Nathan Buckley: It's amazing what golf can do to people. 876 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,002 Deano: Oh my god. 877 00:35:21,001 --> 00:35:21,181 Jonathan Brown: It is, yeah. 878 00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:23,310 Deano: What are you off, Bucks? 879 00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:32,700 Nathan Buckley: I'm off golf. I'm off it all together. I'm going away for a birthday for a couple of nights 880 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:36,030 Nathan Buckley: in July. I'm having a hit of golf with a 881 00:35:36,030 --> 00:35:39,090 Nathan Buckley: group of mates and I'm really worried about how that's 882 00:35:39,090 --> 00:35:41,279 Nathan Buckley: going to go. I reckon I'm going to need to have two 883 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,660 Nathan Buckley: dozen balls. I'll probably need 18 clubs. Start with 18 884 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:47,009 Nathan Buckley: clubs, I'll finish with 14. 885 00:35:47,969 --> 00:35:50,160 Deano: So long as one person in that friendship group is shitter than 886 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,299 Deano: you, you're fine. 887 00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:56,002 Jonathan Brown: Absolutely. I told the old man for his 60th and Ned came as well, we took him to (inaudible) - 888 00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:56,071 Nathan Buckley: Ned loves his golf. 889 00:35:56,071 --> 00:36:00,961 Jonathan Brown: ... for two games of golf. The old man lost 54 balls. 890 00:36:00,961 --> 00:36:01,231 Nathan Buckley: My god. 891 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:06,360 Jonathan Brown: 54 balls in two rounds. 892 00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:09,750 Nathan Buckley: Ned would've been in the rough looking for them trying 893 00:36:10,830 --> 00:36:11,101 Nathan Buckley: to sell them. 894 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:11,102 Jonathan Brown: He would've been, the tight ass. 895 00:36:11,101 --> 00:36:14,340 Deano: Okay. Ads. Back in a second. Brodes has a brand 896 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:16,229 Deano: new segment and we've got to hear about the hall 897 00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:21,840 Deano: of fame stuff with JB. Welcome back to Browny's Podcast. Campbell Brown 898 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,930 Deano: out. Bucks in. 899 00:36:24,930 --> 00:36:25,590 Nathan Buckley: Have you missed him? 900 00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:28,170 Deano: A little bit, to be honest. But, mate, you're bringing 901 00:36:28,170 --> 00:36:28,890 Deano: more, let me tell you. 902 00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:30,000 Nathan Buckley: Okay. 903 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,190 Deano: Now, it's time for this. This is something PointsBet has 904 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:32,670 Deano: devised. 905 00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:37,440 Brodie: Bucks vs Brodie. Brodie vs Bucks. 906 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:37,800 Nathan Buckley: Again. 907 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:38,641 Brodie: That's nice. 908 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:38,642 Jonathan Brown: I hope it goes better than the name checking game- 909 00:36:38,641 --> 00:36:41,041 Nathan Buckley: It's a good play on. 910 00:36:41,041 --> 00:36:42,990 Jonathan Brown: ... or whatever it was called. 911 00:36:43,469 --> 00:36:44,101 Brodie: Name your player, that's a good game. 912 00:36:44,101 --> 00:36:44,251 Jonathan Brown: Name your player. Bucks just blew you away. 913 00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:46,171 Nathan Buckley: I really enjoyed it. 914 00:36:46,171 --> 00:36:52,140 Brodie: These are questions, Bucks, that I'm just going to fire 915 00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:52,261 Brodie: at you and just respond however you like. 916 00:36:52,261 --> 00:36:52,262 Jonathan Brown: I'm going to apologize in advance, Bucks. 917 00:36:52,261 --> 00:36:52,263 Nathan Buckley: Really? 918 00:36:52,262 --> 00:36:57,750 Jonathan Brown: Because I've had a few ex teammates on this podcast and I wasn't real 919 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:58,230 Jonathan Brown: happy with the line of questioning, but anyway. 920 00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:58,980 Nathan Buckley: Okay. 921 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:00,209 Deano: Sorry, man. 922 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:05,310 Brodie: Question one. Bucks, Jonathan wouldn't mind me saying this, but he 923 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:10,320 Brodie: told me personally that had you not played in the 2002, 2003 924 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,500 Brodie: grand finals that Collingwood definitely would have won the premierships. 925 00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:13,799 Brodie: Your thoughts? 926 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:13,950 Deano: Jesus. 927 00:37:13,950 --> 00:37:16,739 Jonathan Brown: Mate, he won a Norm Smith in 02. 928 00:37:17,219 --> 00:37:20,191 Nathan Buckley: My thoughts are that he probably didn't say that to you- 929 00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:20,192 Brodie: He did. 930 00:37:20,191 --> 00:37:24,720 Nathan Buckley: ... and you're making it up. Probably. 931 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:26,549 Brodie: Question two. Bucks- 932 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:27,331 Nathan Buckley: Brodie. 933 00:37:27,331 --> 00:37:30,060 Brodie: ... I just want to get this straight. Is your contract 934 00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:32,700 Brodie: to coach Port Adelaide next year four years or five years? 935 00:37:34,530 --> 00:37:37,291 Nathan Buckley: You're sacking Kenny already, are you? 936 00:37:37,291 --> 00:37:37,590 Brodie: Yeah, come on back. 937 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,710 Nathan Buckley: One of the reasons why I've been really open and 938 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:47,310 Nathan Buckley: upfront about my situation is that I hate the target on 939 00:37:47,310 --> 00:37:48,090 Nathan Buckley: the coach's head. 940 00:37:48,510 --> 00:37:50,700 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, I know. You've enjoyed yourself this year, haven't you? 941 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:51,000 Jonathan Brown: It's been nice. 942 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,219 Nathan Buckley: Well, it's been great. But to know what it feels like in that situation and 943 00:37:56,219 --> 00:38:00,299 Nathan Buckley: to see other people going through it, don't like it. 944 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:02,431 Brodie: Five years? 945 00:38:02,430 --> 00:38:02,550 Nathan Buckley: Five years. 946 00:38:05,730 --> 00:38:07,650 Deano: We're not looking for a headline, but do you miss being in that box at all this year, or not at all? 947 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:12,870 Nathan Buckley: No. I've spent time with the boys. I've really enjoyed 948 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:16,500 Nathan Buckley: the media roles, Fox and SEN have been awesome, and a 949 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,029 Nathan Buckley: little bit more space to- 950 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,950 Jonathan Brown: Now Browny's Podcast, this may be permanent. 951 00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:21,870 Nathan Buckley: Took the old man to the footy- 952 00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:23,851 Deano: No shit. 953 00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:23,852 Jonathan Brown: Yeah, that was nice. 954 00:38:23,851 --> 00:38:25,739 Nathan Buckley: ... a couple of weeks ago, first time we'd sort of done that. Had a couple of pints 955 00:38:25,739 --> 00:38:27,629 Nathan Buckley: before and after and took- 956 00:38:27,989 --> 00:38:28,681 Jonathan Brown: Spent time with the boys. 957 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,360 Nathan Buckley: ... the young fella to the hall of fame the 958 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:30,900 Nathan Buckley: other night. It was awesome. 959 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:34,919 Brodie: Bucks, you lived next to Eddie McGuire. Did you ever 960 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,470 Brodie: smell some of Deano's special herb coming from over the fence? 961 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:40,170 Deano: Special. 962 00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:43,380 Nathan Buckley: No. His boys weren't of age when I was living 963 00:38:43,380 --> 00:38:43,859 Nathan Buckley: next to him. 964 00:38:43,860 --> 00:38:44,430 Deano: Interesting. 965 00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:45,270 Jonathan Brown: That's right. They were too young. 966 00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:46,049 Brodie: He definitely did. 967 00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:50,250 Jonathan Brown: Definitely Carla. Carla had a secret stash. 968 00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:51,959 Deano: Can you imagine Eddie hitting the bong 969 00:38:53,010 --> 00:38:55,049 Nathan Buckley: No, it probably was Carla. I mean, she's going to 970 00:38:55,050 --> 00:38:56,010 Nathan Buckley: have to cope somehow. 971 00:38:56,130 --> 00:38:58,830 Jonathan Brown: Absolutely. Gee, she's a good woman. 972 00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:05,100 Brodie: Bucks, Browny told me privately that you stole the 2003 Brownlow 973 00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,930 Brodie: from Mark Riccituo and Adam Goodes. Your thoughts? 974 00:39:07,770 --> 00:39:10,650 Nathan Buckley: Well, I didn't steal it at all. Just a third of it. 975 00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:13,410 Brodie: But he thinks you didn't really deserve to be up 976 00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:14,610 Brodie: in the echelon. Your thoughts? 977 00:39:17,130 --> 00:39:18,721 Nathan Buckley: I polled in 12 games that year. 978 00:39:18,721 --> 00:39:18,722 Jonathan Brown: How many votes? 979 00:39:18,722 --> 00:39:18,723 Nathan Buckley: I had about eight ones. 980 00:39:18,723 --> 00:39:18,724 Jonathan Brown: Eight ones, did you? 981 00:39:18,724 --> 00:39:25,680 Nathan Buckley: It killed me. No, it wasn't that many. But it was a lot. 982 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,310 Jonathan Brown: How many votes did you have that year? Because the voting 983 00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:30,840 Jonathan Brown: for Brownlows seem to be getting higher and higher. 984 00:39:31,950 --> 00:39:33,630 Nathan Buckley: You need to have over 30. I think it was 985 00:39:33,630 --> 00:39:41,670 Nathan Buckley: 21 or 22. But I polled in a whole heap of 986 00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:45,420 Nathan Buckley: games, and as you go through it, you're going to 987 00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:48,960 Nathan Buckley: say, well, I didn't deserve that vote. But jeez, I missed 988 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,259 Nathan Buckley: out on these. 989 00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:53,670 Jonathan Brown: Missed out there. Would 03 have been your best individual year, do you think? 990 00:39:53,670 --> 00:40:02,850 Nathan Buckley: I think 02, even though I had a hammy injury for 991 00:40:02,850 --> 00:40:03,871 Nathan Buckley: a time. 02 was when I played my best footy. 992 00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:03,872 Jonathan Brown: Yeah. Of course won the Norm Smith then. 993 00:40:03,871 --> 00:40:04,111 Deano: Two more. 994 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,370 Brodie: Bucks, is it ironic being on a show called Best 995 00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:13,530 Brodie: on Ground, despite the fact you were never best on ground? 996 00:40:14,070 --> 00:40:15,090 Deano: Jesus. 997 00:40:15,090 --> 00:40:16,171 Jonathan Brown: Wow. Mate, he won a Brownlow. 998 00:40:16,171 --> 00:40:21,570 Nathan Buckley: Now I know why Brodie's positioned himself directly opposite this island bench. 999 00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:22,680 Jonathan Brown: That's right. 1000 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:22,770 Deano: This man might choke you. 1001 00:40:23,370 --> 00:40:25,469 Jonathan Brown: In fairness to Brodes, you did just talk about all 1002 00:40:25,469 --> 00:40:28,620 Jonathan Brown: the one votes you used to get. 1003 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:28,890 Brodie: Exactly. 1004 00:40:31,350 --> 00:40:31,440 Nathan Buckley: Touche. 1005 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,950 Brodie: Final question. Bucks, will you adopt me? 1006 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,850 Nathan Buckley: Where's your mom and dad, mate? 1007 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,779 Brodie: They're still around. Imagine Brodie Buckley, that sounds great. 1008 00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:44,759 Deano: They're still around. They'll be cool with it. 1009 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,100 Nathan Buckley: Mate, I don't know. I'm going through a separation, I don't know if I've 1010 00:40:47,610 --> 00:40:48,240 Nathan Buckley: got enough cash. 1011 00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:53,879 Jonathan Brown: Well done, Brodes. He knows does when Bucks walks into the room because you 1012 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,800 Jonathan Brown: desperately want him to come and coach your team. 1013 00:40:56,430 --> 00:40:58,530 Deano: Hey, hall of fame, how was the night? 1014 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,040 Jonathan Brown: Hall of fame was magical. Obviously Bucks has been in it for a long 1015 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,710 Jonathan Brown: time now. It was my first time to enjoy it as an 1016 00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:07,830 Jonathan Brown: inductee. Got to have the family along. I saw Bucks 1017 00:41:07,830 --> 00:41:12,270 Jonathan Brown: and Jett, his young bloke. But to take Olivia, she 1018 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:16,260 Jonathan Brown: loved it. She didn't realize, she's a made Carlton supporter, and 1019 00:41:16,260 --> 00:41:21,330 Jonathan Brown: sitting right beside her was Stephen Kernahan, Anthony Koutoufides and 1020 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:22,950 Jonathan Brown: Diesel Williams. 1021 00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:23,311 Nathan Buckley: Really? 1022 00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:23,312 Deano: Big. 1023 00:41:23,311 --> 00:41:27,810 Jonathan Brown: I said to Liv, " You don't realize three of the most iconic Carlton names sitting right 1024 00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:28,469 Jonathan Brown: beside you." 1025 00:41:28,770 --> 00:41:29,460 Nathan Buckley: She wasn't on it? 1026 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Jonathan Brown: She wasn't on it. She obviously hit them up straight 1027 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160 Jonathan Brown: away then for a selfie and Snapchat and all that sort of gear. 1028 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,520 Jonathan Brown: But it was just beautiful. I had a great night. I loved the speeches. I'm 1029 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,219 Jonathan Brown: surprised Nicky Winmar wasn't in there, but I loved the 1030 00:41:41,219 --> 00:41:44,520 Jonathan Brown: fact that Plugger Lockett spoke on behalf of him on 1031 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,310 Jonathan Brown: the video package. But it's a brilliant night, Bucks. It's 1032 00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:50,371 Jonathan Brown: an industry night and it was fabulous to end up there. 1033 00:41:50,371 --> 00:41:50,372 Nathan Buckley: Next year, let's put a table together I reckon. 1034 00:41:50,372 --> 00:41:50,462 Jonathan Brown: We've got a table. 1035 00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:57,540 Nathan Buckley: It was awesome to take Jett and it's just a great night on the 1036 00:41:57,540 --> 00:42:00,689 Nathan Buckley: calendar, isn't it? There was a little bit of gloss 1037 00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:03,570 Nathan Buckley: taken off the fact that you got in the last 1038 00:42:03,570 --> 00:42:04,530 Nathan Buckley: couple of years and couldn't have a function. 1039 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,030 Jonathan Brown: We didn't have a function. We got presented on stage, 1040 00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:11,100 Jonathan Brown: but we didn't get the talk. I must admit, it's a 1041 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,290 Jonathan Brown: little bit nerve wracking though with all the names in 1042 00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:15,510 Jonathan Brown: that room that I was sort of actually happy just to sit back 1043 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:17,940 Jonathan Brown: and watch it knowing you didn't have to do a 15 minute speech 1044 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,259 Jonathan Brown: and chat because obviously you want to get that part 1045 00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:25,469 Jonathan Brown: right. It was fantastic. I loved ... Was it old Bill 1046 00:42:25,469 --> 00:42:25,980 Jonathan Brown: Dempsey? 1047 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,000 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, he's a ripper. 1048 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,180 Jonathan Brown: He was magnificent with a great speech along there. Mike 1049 00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:34,020 Jonathan Brown: Fitzpatrick was great. All the names that went in, they were all thoroughly deserved 1050 00:42:34,020 --> 00:42:37,200 Jonathan Brown: and I ended the night having a beer with Stephen 1051 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,009 Jonathan Brown: Kernahan, Diesel Williams and we were just going through a few and 1052 00:42:41,010 --> 00:42:45,000 Jonathan Brown: Simon Black. I said to Diesel, " Blacky was really slow," and all 1053 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,310 Jonathan Brown: that and Diesel said, " I was slower though and I couldn't run 1054 00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:50,130 Jonathan Brown: out of sight on a dark night. I was short, I was fat. 1055 00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:51,690 Jonathan Brown: I didn't have a lot going for me except for 1056 00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:54,450 Jonathan Brown: one thing." I said, "Oh, yeah, what was that, Diesel?" He said, " 1057 00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:56,190 Jonathan Brown: The footy just kept finding me." 1058 00:42:57,390 --> 00:43:01,650 Nathan Buckley: What about those old blokes, like your old coach, Lee Matthews, they've 1059 00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:02,850 Nathan Buckley: got those sayings. 1060 00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:02,941 Jonathan Brown: Oh, yeah, they love that. 1061 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:07,230 Deano: Hey, Titus O'Reily was telling us that he was there till 4: 30AM 1062 00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:11,640 Deano: in all sorts. You know how he wears a hat, obviously, at 1063 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,100 Deano: one point, Pav was wearing his hat and Simon Black 1064 00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:14,850 Deano: was wearing his glasses. 1065 00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:15,420 Jonathan Brown: Glasses. 1066 00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:18,630 Deano: He was blind drunk, plus he couldn't see in front 1067 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:18,691 Deano: of him. 1068 00:43:18,690 --> 00:43:19,531 Jonathan Brown: He couldn't see. Mate, he had a great night. Pav, I think, was last to leave. 1069 00:43:19,531 --> 00:43:19,532 Deano: Was he? 1070 00:43:19,531 --> 00:43:24,989 Jonathan Brown: He was another inductee as well. Geez, what a player he was. 1071 00:43:24,989 --> 00:43:27,390 Nathan Buckley: You didn't get to your speech, but what you need to 1072 00:43:27,390 --> 00:43:29,460 Nathan Buckley: do is find a platform where you can talk about 1073 00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:31,650 Nathan Buckley: footy, maybe a podcast, maybe a show. 1074 00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:33,420 Jonathan Brown: I'm not sure I've got enough. 1075 00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:36,149 Nathan Buckley: Get a few sponsor agreements and you'll get there, mate. 1076 00:43:36,210 --> 00:43:37,950 Deano: Yes or no, do you want to come to that night 1077 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:40,020 Deano: where Fev and Cam Mooney are going to beat the 1078 00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:41,790 Deano: piss out of each other? We're going to get a table. 1079 00:43:41,850 --> 00:43:42,540 Nathan Buckley: When is that? 1080 00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:45,210 Jonathan Brown: August the 3rd. Is it a Wednesday, Deano? 1081 00:43:45,210 --> 00:43:46,290 Deano: I think so. Are you in, Bucks? 1082 00:43:46,410 --> 00:43:46,710 Nathan Buckley: Yep. 1083 00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:50,130 Deano: Bang. Make sure you hit up Bucks and JB after 1084 00:43:50,130 --> 00:43:52,739 Deano: the game Saturday night, Best on Ground, it's a whole 1085 00:43:52,739 --> 00:44:00,690 Deano: bunch of fun. 504, channel 504, Fox Footy. Bucks, this 1086 00:44:00,690 --> 00:44:02,191 Deano: has been fun. Have you enjoyed it? 1087 00:44:02,190 --> 00:44:04,259 Nathan Buckley: Yeah, I have. I'll do it again. 1088 00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:04,380 Deano: Sweet. 1089 00:44:04,380 --> 00:44:05,851 Nathan Buckley: Just tell Browny to stay in the gimp suit. 1090 00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:11,279 Jonathan Brown: No, I think Brodie's (beep) gone. Keep that snooker ball in your mouth, Brown Dog. 1091 00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:13,680 Deano: Brodie does have a gimp mask on though, just to be clear.