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Speaker 1: This is the Fits In with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Richie Christy Swan is here.

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Speaker 3: Why are you speaking all in that soft, whispery.

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Speaker 2: Way, coming from a supporting angle, because I know there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot going on in your world and I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to create the feeling of a safe space right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm a rescue dog and coming dogs.

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Speaker 2: Are not just for Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what?

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Speaker 5: Come and nestle your head onto my Shoulderswanie, what do

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Speaker 5: you want to talk about?

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Speaker 4: AnyWho?

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Speaker 6: Okay, let me sniff your hands first. Everybody needs I'm

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Speaker 6: in a safe place, needs.

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Speaker 2: A bosom for a pillow.

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Speaker 6: So here's the.

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Speaker 3: Thing midlife crisis, right, I recommend them to everybody.

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Speaker 6: Something has something has happened.

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Speaker 3: And I want to know, from your standpoint, fits and Whip,

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Speaker 3: if this is a new evolution of my midlife crisis

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Speaker 3: or if I'm just buying and being the person that

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be as a teenager because now I've

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Speaker 3: got more pocket money.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, yeah no.

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Speaker 5: But this is the thing that I need to ask,

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Speaker 5: is so have you recognized that you've started the midlife crisis?

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Speaker 4: Are you in the evolution of it? Right? Okay? So

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Speaker 4: can I ask.

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Speaker 3: I'm about four years deep. I'm rolling about four years

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Speaker 3: ago for what was the thing?

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Speaker 4: What was the revelation for you? Like? Where did you go? Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm on it.

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Speaker 3: It's like my brain just snapped and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm going to see if I can do this.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to do this because I think it's like

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Speaker 6: your whole.

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Speaker 3: World opens up into a glittering opportunity. That's why I

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Speaker 3: don't really like the word crisis, because that implies, you know,

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Speaker 3: something very very bad. Yeah, I feel like I should

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Speaker 3: be renamed a midlife awakening. I'm not a doctor, like metamorphosis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would suggest you've been completely nuts since

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Speaker 2: the day you were born.

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Speaker 4: Now that's not a medical term either.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right. And do you know what else

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Speaker 3: I think has happened. My midlife crisis was me going

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Speaker 3: I can't hide. I'm exhausted from hiding the fact that

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Speaker 3: I've been nuts. I just gotta be nuts. I just

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Speaker 3: gotta be nuts and make no apologies for it. And

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Speaker 3: that has really like I recommend it to everybody. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know where you are on the midlife crisis timeline,

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Speaker 3: but we can delve into that a bit later. Okay, whipper,

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Speaker 3: What am I wearing today?

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Speaker 2: You are wearing a jumper from the United Colors of Benetton.

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: When was Benetton big ninety five?

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Speaker 4: Two thousand? Me?

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Speaker 6: It was nineteen eighty eight, eighty eight? Fits. What is

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Speaker 6: on my wrist?

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Speaker 4: You have a watch? Is that a Swatch watch?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's a swatchwatch?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yes, switch watch.

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Speaker 6: What is on my feet?

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Speaker 2: Ah, rebok, it's a reeper Wow.

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Speaker 6: I'm wearing classic eighties things. Right?

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Speaker 3: These were huge in nineteen eighty eight. And my question

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Speaker 3: to you is this is this just the next phase

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Speaker 3: of my midlife crisis? Or am I doing all this

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Speaker 3: stuff that I couldn't do in nineteen eighty eight because

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Speaker 3: I was only working two mornings a week at Baker's Delight.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question in nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: did you celebrate the bisentennial anniversary of this country?

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Speaker 3: Let's make it great in eighty together, show.

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Speaker 4: The world that was beautiful?

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Speaker 7: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, if you didn't get

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Speaker 2: a chance to celebrate really big, then maybe you're just

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Speaker 2: angry you missed that period.

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Speaker 4: So now you're trying to bring back.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty eight, like I go to a music festival now,

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Speaker 5: went to Coachella with a few mates, and there's acts

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Speaker 5: that I was just standing there, going I just want

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Speaker 5: to go back to the nineties. I want to go

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Speaker 5: back to Nirvana. I want to go I think that's

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Speaker 5: what everyone is that is that. Does that equate to

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Speaker 5: a midlife christ I think it does.

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Speaker 2: I think Swanny, if you consider a couple of the

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Speaker 2: other things, and no doubt with your reflection of nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty eight, you're riding your shopping lists in oscars.

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Speaker 6: I do, I do Oscar's two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you would.

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Speaker 8: You probably keep them in trains, Yeah, you keep them in.

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Speaker 4: I would think. But there's that side of it.

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Speaker 8: But then there's also the fact that you get into

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Speaker 8: bed and sleep with a human sized eagle piggle from

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Speaker 8: in the night garden. So there's some just weird different

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Speaker 8: things going on in your life.

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Speaker 3: So we're going with your original, your original diagnosis of

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Speaker 3: I'm just.

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Speaker 4: Nuts not since birth.

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Speaker 6: Okay, great, I'll take it. Let's take it.

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Speaker 2: And in Penrith, welcome show, what did you do during

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Speaker 2: a midlife crissis?

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Speaker 9: And oh did I guys? I ended up going out.

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Speaker 9: I was stifty at the time, and I went to

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Speaker 9: a live band called Clown They're a punk band.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, They're amazing and unbelievable live.

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Speaker 9: They were so good they even let me dive off

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Speaker 9: the stage to do.

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Speaker 1: Ash and I'm like, I'm not a light girl, I'm

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Speaker 1: a skill for these poor buggers that had.

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Speaker 5: Was it a spur of the moment thing or did

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Speaker 5: you plan an je why did you do it?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 9: My my husband would mate with Clown for Clowns, and

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Speaker 9: he got three tickets, and I went, I don't want

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Speaker 9: to go to a punk bands, and then I thought, right,

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Speaker 9: I'll show you buggers, and I got up and I

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Speaker 9: just dive.

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Speaker 10: I love you, and did something happen when your body

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Speaker 10: hit that crowd where you went, Oh god, I am

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Speaker 10: forever changed.

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Speaker 9: I had hands in.

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Speaker 10: Home, thrilling your hands, jumping off by projects, jumping off

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Speaker 10: stages ever since, haven't you earned?

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Speaker 6: I got to put that on my list of midlife.

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Speaker 3: Crisis stage swanning stage.

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Speaker 4: I could set that up for you for sure.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we organize Swanny stage dive? And then she

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Speaker 2: has to be carried lying down through everybody that's standing there.

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Speaker 3: One hundred meters have you ever can it be boom

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Speaker 3: crashed up onion skin.

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Speaker 6: Ball for.

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Speaker 2: Lena and Bozzley Park. Welcome to the show, Lena.

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Speaker 4: What was what was your crisis?

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Speaker 2: Lena?

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Speaker 7: Harry Styles? Absolutely in love with him? My girls, I

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Speaker 7: think I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: How old are you so?

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Speaker 7: I'm in my sixties.

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Speaker 6: Lena.

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Speaker 3: The minute that you saw Harry Styles did something snap

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Speaker 3: inside you and you just went, oh, oh, this is

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Speaker 3: who I am now?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Oh my god. I have his magazine in my

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Speaker 7: bedside table, my clothing, my colors, everything's just about Harry.

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Speaker 7: He just makes you really happy, Lena.

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Speaker 5: Can you compare him to someone else that you fell

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Speaker 5: in love with in your teenage years?

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Speaker 4: Like who was the popular one for you?

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Speaker 7: Okay in my teenage Yes, David?

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Speaker 6: Oh, David Essex. God, he was gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: Where was heids racking rooms? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Lena can ask a question, is the interesting Harry Styles?

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Speaker 2: Does it extend to a small fantasy of possibly you

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Speaker 2: and Harry together?

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Speaker 7: Honestly, if I've met him, I think I just wouldn't

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Speaker 7: know what to do.

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Speaker 3: But Lena was the last nail in the coffin the

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Speaker 3: fact that he was with Olivia Wilde, who was so

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Speaker 3: much older than him, and you thought, hang on, I'm.

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Speaker 4: I'm a good shot.

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Speaker 7: Oh look, I just think he's gorgeous. He's just a

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Speaker 7: gorgeous man.

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Speaker 4: Did you go and see him live, Lena?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I did, Yes, I did. That's why my daughters

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Speaker 7: think I'm crazy. I look up everywhere where he's going.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I can't wait till he comes out next.

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Speaker 2: Lena would have been crying at the concert.

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Speaker 5: Maddie and producer, can you get Lena's details. We're going

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Speaker 5: to get Lena a double the next time Harry comes

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Speaker 5: to Australia.

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Speaker 4: Lena on us. You're going to see Harry again.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, he'll be back in twenty thirty two.

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Speaker 6: And then I can make very jealous.

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Speaker 3: I have met him and he is magical, beautiful, absolutely magical, Lena.

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Speaker 5: When we first interviewed him, Lena, he he walked through right,

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Speaker 5: and remember it was the first time. They were seventeen

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Speaker 5: years of age.

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Speaker 6: One direction, Yes, and the whole band came out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And Anna our receptionist here, she was a very attractive girl.

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Speaker 5: And Harry took a shine to our receptionist at Nova

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Speaker 5: in Sydney. Here in Piedmont Wow, and he was asking

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Speaker 5: his people, can you I would like to see her again?

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Speaker 5: And Anna at the time Swani, I an't told you this.

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Speaker 5: She had a boyfriend, but it was a bit on

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Speaker 5: and off and she didn't know what to do and

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Speaker 5: she said, no I can't and I'm still with a guy.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: I would have dropped him in a second.

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Speaker 6: Regrets absolutely. It was on and off. That was suddenly off.

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Speaker 4: Am I right?

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Speaker 6: Lena.

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Speaker 7: Funny thing is if we're driving in the car and

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Speaker 7: happy he's Harry, He's like, oh no, he's Harry.

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Speaker 4: No, No, here we go again, and I'm.

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Speaker 7: Just jumping up and down. Oh yeah, I'm Harry's thinking

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Speaker 7: about me.

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Speaker 4: He's not. Helena would eat Harry alive.

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Speaker 2: It's in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast

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