1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:24,561 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am I 2 00:00:24,681 --> 00:00:28,881 Speaker 1: A Bad Mom? Podcast? We're in December. I feel like 3 00:00:28,921 --> 00:00:30,201 Speaker 1: I'm shaking as I say it. 4 00:00:30,361 --> 00:00:34,961 Speaker 2: We're in de Zera, December, and the old fella he's 5 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,361 Speaker 2: not far off coming to visit. 6 00:00:39,001 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: And my kids are on school holidays already. They're working 7 00:00:42,081 --> 00:00:42,521 Speaker 1: a lot. 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,241 Speaker 3: That's great. 9 00:00:43,361 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: It's interesting anyone with kids that are getting close to 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,161 Speaker 1: like teenage years, so you are starting to think about working. 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: What's really interesting because I was like, you have to 12 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:56,801 Speaker 1: get a job. It was like hammering them to get 13 00:00:56,801 --> 00:01:00,041 Speaker 1: a job. And they did both get jobs and machas 14 00:01:00,161 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: you know. Honestly, I can say to you, I think 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,081 Speaker 1: Amelia's work there for a year, and maybe even now 16 00:01:06,601 --> 00:01:10,721 Speaker 1: colleagues work there for a year. They still get both 17 00:01:10,761 --> 00:01:14,801 Speaker 1: of them a little bit. Holly massively really anxious about 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: every shift. What I've realized because I thought for ages 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,521 Speaker 1: she just doesn't want to work, just lazy. I'm like, mate, 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,281 Speaker 1: three hours doing fries, it's gonna be a stressful job 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: you are ever going to have in your whole life. 22 00:01:27,681 --> 00:01:29,801 Speaker 1: And she would tell me how chaotic it was and 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,601 Speaker 1: how stressful. I'm like, it's not stressful. They can't possibly 24 00:01:32,601 --> 00:01:33,161 Speaker 1: be stressful. 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: Well, people like fries, so you mess that up. 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, what I've learned is now there's these jobs 27 00:01:41,401 --> 00:01:45,521 Speaker 1: at City Beach and Woolworths, and they are so much happier. 28 00:01:45,961 --> 00:01:49,161 Speaker 1: They're enjoying the work. I would say fast food someone 29 00:01:49,201 --> 00:01:52,641 Speaker 1: like macas. Yeah, not for all the kids, because there 30 00:01:52,681 --> 00:01:58,361 Speaker 1: is definitely a pressure on being hectic and super fast. 31 00:01:58,441 --> 00:01:58,601 Speaker 2: Yeah. 32 00:01:58,601 --> 00:02:00,681 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to do it, no way. 33 00:02:00,801 --> 00:02:05,241 Speaker 1: Jose Holly complained so much about going to a maca Is. 34 00:02:05,321 --> 00:02:07,241 Speaker 1: I said, okay, Holly, I've only got one other option 35 00:02:07,361 --> 00:02:10,401 Speaker 1: for you. You have to earn money to survive. We 36 00:02:10,481 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: all have to. So my option and advice to you, 37 00:02:14,441 --> 00:02:19,121 Speaker 1: mother to daughter, giving you some worldly advice is find 38 00:02:19,121 --> 00:02:26,721 Speaker 1: a rich husband. Oh there you go to find an 39 00:02:26,841 --> 00:02:30,921 Speaker 1: old rich husband. Oh god, at that age? 40 00:02:31,441 --> 00:02:33,361 Speaker 3: Would I be giving them that advice? 41 00:02:34,161 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: At our age? Would I be giving it to our friends' advice? Yeah? 42 00:02:37,881 --> 00:02:38,721 Speaker 3: I do on the daily. 43 00:02:48,721 --> 00:02:52,201 Speaker 1: Am I bad Mum for clamping down? I've had enough 44 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,601 Speaker 1: of being Mom's bank But you can't be now? Yeah? 45 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,401 Speaker 2: Well that so rich after thirty hours of work, nothing 46 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,361 Speaker 2: to spend their money? I mean when I say nothing 47 00:03:03,401 --> 00:03:05,681 Speaker 2: to spend the money, on no end, no car. 48 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,041 Speaker 3: No like the car. 49 00:03:07,121 --> 00:03:09,081 Speaker 2: They just probably paid for their fuel, but they're probably 50 00:03:09,121 --> 00:03:10,601 Speaker 2: on the same tank that you filled up. 51 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,801 Speaker 1: They should be rich. Well, Holly said to me the 52 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,081 Speaker 1: other day. She went, I should have this much money 53 00:03:15,081 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: in my account, but I had to get a full 54 00:03:16,841 --> 00:03:19,481 Speaker 1: tanker pedual blah blah. I was like, yeah, welcome to 55 00:03:19,921 --> 00:03:20,481 Speaker 1: the world. 56 00:03:20,601 --> 00:03:22,201 Speaker 3: I don't care to the world. 57 00:03:22,721 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: And so I'm still getting regularly rache paidback. 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:27,881 Speaker 3: Can you pay me that? 59 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:29,921 Speaker 1: And you pay me back now? They check with me 60 00:03:30,441 --> 00:03:33,081 Speaker 1: like is it okay if I get But usually Rach, 61 00:03:33,201 --> 00:03:35,681 Speaker 1: I'm in a situation where I'm at work, or I'm 62 00:03:35,961 --> 00:03:39,121 Speaker 1: rushing around, or I'm needing a phone call, jump on 63 00:03:39,121 --> 00:03:41,401 Speaker 1: a court or something, and I end up just going yeah, yeah, sure, 64 00:03:41,481 --> 00:03:43,401 Speaker 1: because I'm not thinking about it properly. And then I 65 00:03:43,441 --> 00:03:46,441 Speaker 1: think about it afterwards. I'm like, really, I bought enough 66 00:03:46,761 --> 00:03:49,201 Speaker 1: food for you to be taking stuff with you. What 67 00:03:49,281 --> 00:03:51,641 Speaker 1: you get bottles of water out because you didn't fill 68 00:03:51,721 --> 00:03:52,441 Speaker 1: up your water bottle. 69 00:03:52,561 --> 00:03:53,881 Speaker 3: Your problem, not my problem. 70 00:03:54,161 --> 00:03:56,481 Speaker 1: And so Holly was at work. She was doing some 71 00:03:56,601 --> 00:04:01,521 Speaker 1: quite late shifts after school and till like nine, so 72 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:04,761 Speaker 1: she wasn't getting dinner. So if she wanted to grab 73 00:04:04,801 --> 00:04:07,001 Speaker 1: sou or something in their break. I was like, yeah, yeah, 74 00:04:07,041 --> 00:04:10,521 Speaker 1: no worries. She said to me one day, okay, mom, 75 00:04:10,681 --> 00:04:12,681 Speaker 1: I spent this on this. And then they go through 76 00:04:12,881 --> 00:04:14,561 Speaker 1: like oh, you owe me this. I hate the way 77 00:04:14,561 --> 00:04:19,841 Speaker 1: they say you owe me because I'm like, oh, just hits. 78 00:04:19,841 --> 00:04:20,481 Speaker 3: The other the ner. 79 00:04:21,081 --> 00:04:22,681 Speaker 2: But the other part is they could be taking their 80 00:04:22,721 --> 00:04:26,681 Speaker 2: own if the time came where you, which in my opinion, 81 00:04:26,801 --> 00:04:27,681 Speaker 2: should pull up. 82 00:04:27,641 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: Stumps on that, they would be. 83 00:04:29,721 --> 00:04:32,121 Speaker 2: And I can tell you they would be making whatever 84 00:04:32,161 --> 00:04:33,961 Speaker 2: they could and taking it. 85 00:04:34,121 --> 00:04:35,801 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they don't want to spend their money. 86 00:04:36,041 --> 00:04:38,481 Speaker 1: I think I've got it in my head right that 87 00:04:39,601 --> 00:04:43,601 Speaker 1: whilst they're in school full time, there's still an element 88 00:04:43,721 --> 00:04:47,001 Speaker 1: of what I should do in regards to like food, 89 00:04:48,001 --> 00:04:49,801 Speaker 1: they have to buy their own clothes, that kind of thing. 90 00:04:50,001 --> 00:04:53,001 Speaker 1: This particular day, Holly goes, oh, you owe me this 91 00:04:53,081 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: amount of money. It wasn't very much. It was a 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,121 Speaker 1: few dollars and I was like what for and she 93 00:04:58,281 --> 00:05:01,601 Speaker 1: went on, because I got a pickle on my break 94 00:05:01,921 --> 00:05:05,521 Speaker 1: and what so, yeah, I got a pickle. I don't 95 00:05:05,561 --> 00:05:07,641 Speaker 1: know what they must have been on TikTok or something, 96 00:05:08,161 --> 00:05:10,721 Speaker 1: but you can buy these like big pickles. 97 00:05:11,201 --> 00:05:12,161 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're disgusting. 98 00:05:12,361 --> 00:05:15,121 Speaker 1: I thought about it and I went, I'm not paying 99 00:05:15,161 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: for the pickle. And what do you mean? I said, 100 00:05:18,001 --> 00:05:21,521 Speaker 1: that's not food. That like, you've chosen to get a pickle. 101 00:05:21,521 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Why should I be paying for the pickle? Like, yeah, 102 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,361 Speaker 1: this is a no pickle zone. Yeah, you're not paying 103 00:05:27,481 --> 00:05:29,801 Speaker 1: I'm not paying for the pickle. You can pay for 104 00:05:29,841 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: the pickle, I said. And actually, I'm going to clamp 105 00:05:32,721 --> 00:05:34,841 Speaker 1: down on some of this stuff because when I look 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,321 Speaker 1: at what I'm paying you back for water, when you 107 00:05:38,401 --> 00:05:40,241 Speaker 1: catch me off guard and say can I get a 108 00:05:40,241 --> 00:05:41,841 Speaker 1: bottle of water, I'm like, of course you can get 109 00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: a bottle of water. I'm a parent. I want my 110 00:05:44,201 --> 00:05:46,881 Speaker 1: kids to be drinking water. And then I'm like, no, 111 00:05:47,281 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: you've got so many water water me. 112 00:05:48,801 --> 00:05:51,121 Speaker 2: I was like, Katie, every time I see you, that 113 00:05:51,201 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: beat up old water bottle is always with you. So 114 00:05:54,801 --> 00:05:58,401 Speaker 2: what's the difference between you and your children? You are 115 00:05:58,481 --> 00:06:00,801 Speaker 2: not so many any money on water? You've always got 116 00:06:00,841 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: that filled to the brim. 117 00:06:01,841 --> 00:06:06,081 Speaker 1: They've got a Stanley. I bought them a Stanley stead. 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,721 Speaker 2: And then they will actually become self sufficient around taking water. 119 00:06:11,801 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: When they have to buy water, they'll take water. 120 00:06:14,681 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rachel. As we know, I got my water bottle 121 00:06:17,801 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: that I use overnight from Kmar and it was nine dollars. 122 00:06:21,041 --> 00:06:21,921 Speaker 1: It was on special. 123 00:06:22,041 --> 00:06:24,761 Speaker 3: It might be not working now, but it does work. 124 00:06:25,641 --> 00:06:28,641 Speaker 1: It worked you leave the. 125 00:06:28,641 --> 00:06:30,841 Speaker 2: House because I only see that one, that one has 126 00:06:30,921 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: been belted around, that is actually going on. It's had 127 00:06:34,681 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: some age about it and it is belted around. And 128 00:06:38,761 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: I don't ever see you with a plastic bottle of water. 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: So I reckon put the hole on that one as well. 130 00:06:44,601 --> 00:06:47,321 Speaker 1: Now I feel self conscious about this water bottle because 131 00:06:47,521 --> 00:06:50,481 Speaker 1: I wouldn't love it. This water bottle really saves a purpose. 132 00:06:50,521 --> 00:06:54,001 Speaker 2: That is a mum water bottle if I've ever seen one, like, 133 00:06:54,081 --> 00:06:56,361 Speaker 2: that's how you feel like as a mum some days. 134 00:06:56,361 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: See how beat up that bottle is. That is how 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,721 Speaker 2: I feel today. That is how I feel today. 136 00:07:02,761 --> 00:07:03,841 Speaker 3: As a parent. 137 00:07:05,041 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Okay, it's nine hundred mills so it's almost a leader. 138 00:07:09,121 --> 00:07:12,241 Speaker 1: It's insulated. It's got like fits in the side of 139 00:07:12,281 --> 00:07:15,321 Speaker 1: my car. Yeah, they're like, oh yeah in the arm 140 00:07:15,521 --> 00:07:16,561 Speaker 1: Yeah perfectly. 141 00:07:16,761 --> 00:07:17,561 Speaker 3: Yeah. 142 00:07:17,601 --> 00:07:20,081 Speaker 1: Like I've spent a fortune on water bottles. Take your 143 00:07:20,081 --> 00:07:22,881 Speaker 1: water bottle, Look at the one I'm carding around. 144 00:07:23,081 --> 00:07:25,201 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen you pull it out of your handbag 145 00:07:25,281 --> 00:07:28,521 Speaker 2: like Mary Poppins, that thing. 146 00:07:28,481 --> 00:07:29,721 Speaker 3: Just keeps on giving. Yeah. 147 00:07:29,841 --> 00:07:32,161 Speaker 2: Imagine if you add up all the water that you're 148 00:07:32,201 --> 00:07:34,441 Speaker 2: buying for your children, you could have bought like another 149 00:07:34,521 --> 00:07:36,681 Speaker 2: three bottles of those and then given that to. 150 00:07:36,761 --> 00:07:39,041 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what they need for Christmas. Oh my god, 151 00:07:39,201 --> 00:07:41,761 Speaker 1: I've just thought because now you've got me thinking about 152 00:07:41,761 --> 00:07:43,361 Speaker 1: this water bottle because you said, oh, you know and 153 00:07:43,441 --> 00:07:46,481 Speaker 1: taking around that beatn number water bottle. I like it. 154 00:07:46,481 --> 00:07:50,761 Speaker 1: It definitely is like vibes. So I've just realized because 155 00:07:50,801 --> 00:07:52,681 Speaker 1: I was like, where did I get this water bottle? 156 00:07:52,801 --> 00:07:54,881 Speaker 3: I think for as long as this podcast has been going, 157 00:07:54,881 --> 00:07:55,841 Speaker 3: that bottle has been going. 158 00:07:55,921 --> 00:07:57,521 Speaker 1: I've had this water water for ten years. 159 00:07:57,641 --> 00:07:59,641 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that's why I know it. 160 00:07:59,681 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: I got it in two thousand. 161 00:08:00,601 --> 00:08:03,241 Speaker 2: I'd probably i'd probably be able to identify you with 162 00:08:03,321 --> 00:08:05,361 Speaker 2: that water bottle before you pop through the or if 163 00:08:05,401 --> 00:08:06,801 Speaker 2: I saw a water bottle Katie's here. 164 00:08:07,841 --> 00:08:08,961 Speaker 1: I'm not even joking. 165 00:08:09,401 --> 00:08:12,201 Speaker 2: I am. You know, like some things you see of people, 166 00:08:12,321 --> 00:08:14,441 Speaker 2: and that's like one of the things that I always 167 00:08:14,481 --> 00:08:16,441 Speaker 2: will know that you're here or you're around because I 168 00:08:16,481 --> 00:08:17,201 Speaker 2: know that water bottle. 169 00:08:17,361 --> 00:08:19,641 Speaker 3: Okay, well, don't change it now. 170 00:08:19,721 --> 00:08:21,761 Speaker 1: No, I have to now, No, you can't. 171 00:08:22,041 --> 00:08:26,001 Speaker 2: This is iconic to the podcast. People need to know 172 00:08:26,241 --> 00:08:27,161 Speaker 2: that Katie's here. 173 00:08:27,361 --> 00:08:28,441 Speaker 3: Water bottle. 174 00:08:28,841 --> 00:08:31,241 Speaker 2: They love it. 175 00:08:31,281 --> 00:08:32,401 Speaker 3: I hope you buddy clean it. 176 00:08:32,841 --> 00:08:35,321 Speaker 1: If you ask me what water bottle you use, I 177 00:08:35,361 --> 00:08:37,761 Speaker 1: would say I don't know, but mine. Seeing you with 178 00:08:37,841 --> 00:08:40,881 Speaker 1: about twenty different water bottles, I use whatever's clean. 179 00:08:40,961 --> 00:08:44,401 Speaker 3: I'm really like weird with water bottles. 180 00:08:44,481 --> 00:08:47,401 Speaker 2: I won't like tend to share them unless somebody's choking, 181 00:08:48,161 --> 00:08:50,681 Speaker 2: and then I'll allow them to have a mouthful, but 182 00:08:50,761 --> 00:08:52,281 Speaker 2: don't have a mouthful. 183 00:08:51,961 --> 00:08:52,641 Speaker 1: Through the straw. 184 00:08:52,801 --> 00:08:54,721 Speaker 3: Please don't get the top and drink from there. 185 00:08:54,961 --> 00:08:57,641 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I don't share if my kids have 186 00:08:57,721 --> 00:08:59,521 Speaker 2: had the you know, like the night bottles with the 187 00:08:59,561 --> 00:09:02,921 Speaker 2: squeezy ones, I don't need any of that, no, because 188 00:09:02,961 --> 00:09:04,121 Speaker 2: there's a lot of back forward. 189 00:09:04,201 --> 00:09:06,921 Speaker 3: But yeah, so yes, I. 190 00:09:06,841 --> 00:09:11,201 Speaker 2: Do tend to rotate them a lot. But when I 191 00:09:11,241 --> 00:09:13,281 Speaker 2: say rotate them a lot, it's just in the big drawer. 192 00:09:13,361 --> 00:09:16,841 Speaker 2: Everyone that's got kids has got a large drawer of 193 00:09:16,921 --> 00:09:17,681 Speaker 2: water bottles. 194 00:09:17,761 --> 00:09:20,201 Speaker 3: Surely. Yeah, yeah, how often do you wash that? 195 00:09:21,241 --> 00:09:23,601 Speaker 1: I rinsed it and put it on the draining board 196 00:09:23,601 --> 00:09:25,561 Speaker 1: at the end of every day. Oh yeah, that's right, 197 00:09:25,841 --> 00:09:26,161 Speaker 1: is it? 198 00:09:26,561 --> 00:09:26,761 Speaker 3: Yeah? 199 00:09:26,761 --> 00:09:29,361 Speaker 2: I mean as long as you're washing the mouthpart. 200 00:09:30,281 --> 00:09:36,041 Speaker 1: Have you ever like got this is disgusting? I just 201 00:09:36,161 --> 00:09:36,641 Speaker 1: said it. 202 00:09:37,561 --> 00:09:40,721 Speaker 2: Oh, now I'm gonna have to commit to it. Have 203 00:09:40,841 --> 00:09:43,281 Speaker 2: you ever used a water bottle for like a week 204 00:09:45,561 --> 00:09:47,201 Speaker 2: and then you go to put it in the light 205 00:09:47,281 --> 00:09:49,921 Speaker 2: to wash it properly? Wash it by Do you ever 206 00:09:50,041 --> 00:09:51,241 Speaker 2: smell the bottle? 207 00:09:51,841 --> 00:09:55,841 Speaker 3: Oh, it's disgusting. But see minor all got like the 208 00:09:55,961 --> 00:09:56,961 Speaker 3: straws on it. 209 00:09:57,121 --> 00:09:59,401 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I've been using them have ten. 210 00:09:59,321 --> 00:10:02,521 Speaker 3: Years and she's still going strong's going strong. 211 00:10:03,041 --> 00:10:06,481 Speaker 1: Well, we could sit and talk about water bottles all 212 00:10:06,601 --> 00:10:11,081 Speaker 1: day long, smelly water bottles. We won't. I've got at 213 00:10:11,121 --> 00:10:12,801 Speaker 1: least another ten years left in this water. 214 00:10:14,201 --> 00:10:16,281 Speaker 3: Yeah, we keep going. I reckon there's been a few 215 00:10:16,281 --> 00:10:17,801 Speaker 3: occasions where you've had wine in. 216 00:10:17,761 --> 00:10:20,401 Speaker 1: That maybe, And what I might do is i might 217 00:10:20,481 --> 00:10:23,641 Speaker 1: get a new water bottle just so that I'm not 218 00:10:23,721 --> 00:10:31,881 Speaker 1: so predictable to you. I was like, there comes a 219 00:10:31,921 --> 00:10:35,241 Speaker 1: water bottle, and oh my god, I'm so predictable, same 220 00:10:35,281 --> 00:10:38,441 Speaker 1: water bottle, same hairstyle, same shop wear by my clothes. 221 00:10:38,481 --> 00:10:41,601 Speaker 2: No, your shopping is like it changes, but it like 222 00:10:41,681 --> 00:10:45,201 Speaker 2: the style is like comics always. 223 00:10:44,801 --> 00:10:46,641 Speaker 3: Big bold prints or color. 224 00:10:47,161 --> 00:10:50,961 Speaker 2: We did this remember it was like a personality test 225 00:10:51,001 --> 00:10:54,441 Speaker 2: of like the podcast, and I was like I was 226 00:10:54,441 --> 00:10:57,041 Speaker 2: putting yours together and I was like, I'm pretty on 227 00:10:57,081 --> 00:10:57,921 Speaker 2: the money with this