WEBVTT - #2036 Personal Development (The Verb) - Harps & Tiff

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<v Speaker 1>Get ATIV. Welcome Mar to the You Project, Tiffany and

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<v Speaker 1>Cook and everyone else. Before you say anything, why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a different virtual room because I'm out of fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>We've leveled up with fancy. We're on riverside. Look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Look how fancy he is? Even get a countdown when

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<v Speaker 2>I press record. Isn't it fancy?

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<v Speaker 1>It's too fancy for me. I don't you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like change. I don't play well with others, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like change.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what That's why I thought I'd throw this one

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<v Speaker 2>to you, just to keep you on your toes, just

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<v Speaker 2>to keep you growing and evolving and learning and doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the Craig harperisms that you teach all of us to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to deal. So everyone, what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>normally looking at is I'm normally looking at a virtual

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<v Speaker 1>studio that I'm in and it's all razzle dazzle, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's on zoom and it's beautiful. I know exactly what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. And TIF and I are recording, and she

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a link to something different, and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at I'm just looking at me, sitting in my messy

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<v Speaker 1>office with shit written on the whiteboard behind me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a filter on my face, so I look

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<v Speaker 1>every one of my fucking sixty two years. I look

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<v Speaker 1>like someone's granddad lost in a fucking podcast studio. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the one where I look prettier and younger. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we make that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you look fabulous. Are you a bit thrown

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<v Speaker 2>by my long acrylic nails as well? That's thrown me

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<v Speaker 2>for what is to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go with that? Can you post a photo of those?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, I'm not being offensive or inappropriate when

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<v Speaker 1>I say you are thirty percent male, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably more you claim a mere thirty percent. I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're a hybrid man woman, and I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>in the nicest way, because you've got traps coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of your ears and it dealt for fucking days. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I allowed to keep going because there's.

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<v Speaker 2>More hilarious fabulous? It makes me happy? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know you would laugh, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>there won't be people that will laugh. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you off air because the next one was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fucking zinger, a complete fucking zinger. You would

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<v Speaker 1>have loved it. But three people write and tell me

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<v Speaker 1>how offensive and inappropriate and politically and correct, I am,

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<v Speaker 1>and to those three people, fuck you so no I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that. No, I'm only kidding, but it is, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It has thrown me a little bit because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>used to looking at this. But anyway, Ah, tell everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>So you've been in Queensland, you had this thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>know all your people know, but my people don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got this opportunity to speak at this event,

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<v Speaker 1>which did a good give us the snapshot before we

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<v Speaker 1>dive into our which we may not even get to

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<v Speaker 1>our fucking topic, because that is generally the way. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>My long winded point is you and long girly nails,

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<v Speaker 1>and God bless her, it's kind of like me in

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking tutu. It just messes with my head.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too. And I asked three times for short, straight nails,

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<v Speaker 2>and she just looked at me and went, they're feminine.

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<v Speaker 2>Your deal, your deal. She would not listen and she

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<v Speaker 2>laughed at me. I was like, bro, I can't ride

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<v Speaker 2>my motorcycle with nails like this. She said, you deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you inferring that the lady who did your nails?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a lady or a man or? It was

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<v Speaker 1>a lady right, just checking? Are you inferring one that

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<v Speaker 1>she was Asian?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if anyone, if anyone has seen the real most

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<v Speaker 2>people will know this when I say it, and someone

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<v Speaker 2>will be like, what are you talking about? If everyone

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<v Speaker 2>knows the real the comedy reel, I can't remember the

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<v Speaker 2>chick's name, but she does a thing about the nail

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<v Speaker 2>so on and she's like, do you like grittel joll?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows that this was a version of that cheek.

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<v Speaker 2>She was so funny, but she would not give me

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<v Speaker 2>what I wanted, and she upsold me and she did

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite of what I asked for. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>stuck with these long roll with the punched colors. Roll

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<v Speaker 2>with the punch is colored? Get your words right.

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<v Speaker 1>Fingernails, well, they are very glamorous. But when I think

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<v Speaker 1>of glamorous, with all due respect, you don't fucking spring

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<v Speaker 1>to mind. When I think of you, I think more like,

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<v Speaker 1>like those nails are like, uh, you know, Porsche nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven. You're more like Ford F one fifty pickup

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<v Speaker 1>truck like that. You know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind that. I don't mind that. That help

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<v Speaker 2>me stand out on the week.

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<v Speaker 1>On the week to me, what's tiff Like I say,

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<v Speaker 1>robust robust? Yeah, so if glamorous is one end of

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<v Speaker 1>the scale and robust is the other, you're up that end.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm exactly where I want to be. Then thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're welcome, You're welcome. I reckon, I'm closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the glamor and than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these nails on and you're going to own it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. That lady that you were talking about, the Asian

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<v Speaker 1>lady who was impersonating, and so she's an Asian comedian

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<v Speaker 1>who was impersonating.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's not Asian. I think she might be.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think she is. Is she the one that

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<v Speaker 1>said you so pretty? Why you not have boyfriend? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm going to get in. I'm just saying what

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<v Speaker 1>she said, so don't yell at me. Yeah, it's yeah, funny,

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<v Speaker 1>very funny. How do people find that? If they want

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<v Speaker 1>to find that, could they They could go to YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>like Lady Nail Lady comedian.

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<v Speaker 2>Jail Crystal Jel Nail comedy. All right, that'll bring it

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<v Speaker 2>up and I will find it and put it in

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<v Speaker 2>the typ Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did you go? So you were because you

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<v Speaker 1>were having at various stages, a little fucking tanty and

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<v Speaker 1>emotional kind of periodic meltdown because you, well, you who

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<v Speaker 1>is like a dog with a metaphoric dog with three dicks,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just like to wander and go wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go. But you you have been working in

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<v Speaker 1>part of this program to be trained in a certain

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<v Speaker 1>particular way of presenting in a certain model. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say that initially you and it weren't a great fit,

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<v Speaker 1>or you didn't think you were, because you're like, fuck rules,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like rule, stick your rules up your ass,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, well, you actually enrolled in this program.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like me going to do a PhD gume. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'll do it however I want fuck your system.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about I don't care about the PhD rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck it. Yeah, So how did you go with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I when you started that and I figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that it was so Tiff was doing correct me if

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<v Speaker 1>I get anything wrong. So you're doing a like a

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<v Speaker 1>speaking speaker's development kind of process program with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the lady's name who led it? We may as

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<v Speaker 1>well give her a fucking shout at what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name Jacqueline Jacqueline Brooker, she deserves it. She's She's

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<v Speaker 2>put up with me for a long time now, so

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<v Speaker 2>she deserves a shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it fair that to say that you crack the

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<v Speaker 1>shits at her a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>I look yet, internally, yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I used the word petulant with you the

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<v Speaker 2>other day. I was. I tried to keep it all internal,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I'm not good at that. So when

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<v Speaker 2>there's internal angst, everybody involved feels it.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you so, what did you learn about stepping

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<v Speaker 1>out of the tiff model, which is like essentially no model,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like free range chicken, and being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>channeled into a particular way of doing something, not forever

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<v Speaker 1>but for a peweriod of time. What did you What

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<v Speaker 1>were the what were the positives? What were the lessons

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<v Speaker 1>out of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what was interesting, ironic and beneficial and valuable was

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<v Speaker 2>that almost every component of the keynote I put together

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<v Speaker 2>that I was teaching about lessons that I have learned

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<v Speaker 2>or value had to be applied. I had to apply.

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<v Speaker 2>I was applying them, managing my emotions, dealing within a critic,

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<v Speaker 2>looking at my programming, and my ability to control what

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<v Speaker 2>was what I could control and get uncomfortable and be

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<v Speaker 2>honest about what challenges me, and be honest about my

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<v Speaker 2>perception versus reality. Like all of this stuff is are

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<v Speaker 2>things that I talk about inside the keynote, and in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of it, I'm challenged by them because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of the work we do, right, and we

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<v Speaker 2>do the work that we need to do, like we

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<v Speaker 2>end up I think we end up teaching what we

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<v Speaker 2>need to learn or what we've needed to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, like I've said to you a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>when a few things in your life are going not great,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is when all of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about actually matters right now, when things are shit,

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<v Speaker 1>when things are uncomfortable and unfamiliar and uncertain and unpleasant,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, now is when you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to walk the talk that you've been talking. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>it's just fucking window dressing for a life that's really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of not representative of the person that we are publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is that is, you know, for me, that

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<v Speaker 1>is why it's personal development. It's not a product or

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<v Speaker 1>a brand or a book or a podcast or a

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<v Speaker 1>presentation like personal development is literally a messy, uncomfortable motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>of a process that we go through, or don't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Self help is literally for me helping yourself, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes there are going to be kind of resources

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<v Speaker 1>and videos and books and all of those things in

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<v Speaker 1>your proximity perhaps, but that kind of when you turn

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<v Speaker 1>it from a noun into a verb, like a doing word,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh, this is what personal growth, personal developments,

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<v Speaker 1>self help, human behavior, this is what it is about.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like what I liked was I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute there you weren't going to because you

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<v Speaker 1>went to Queensland to do this and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>big event and there were lots of people, big crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of other speakers. But there was a moment there

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<v Speaker 1>where I thought, Ah, she's not going to go. She's

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<v Speaker 1>going to fucking throw the dummy out of the cot.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not going. But what, Shane, what's got you back

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<v Speaker 1>on track?

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<v Speaker 2>I was closer than you would probably realize to that.

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<v Speaker 2>The only I'd say, the main reason I didn't is

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<v Speaker 2>that I had three people that had bought tickets to

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<v Speaker 2>be there too, from Queensland, one from Melbourne, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you kind of can't your mate's are doing anything. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the big reasons I was justifying to myself

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<v Speaker 2>that it's better off for me to pull out was

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<v Speaker 2>the quality of the people in the room. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to go and deliver this keynote and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that it's going to be suboptimal compared to

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<v Speaker 2>what I feel like I would be able to bring

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<v Speaker 2>if I could just do my own thing, then do

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be doing that in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>potential contacts that I'll be speaking in front of, because

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<v Speaker 2>that is that a good opportunity or a bad opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>So and then I got about maybe three or four

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<v Speaker 2>weeks out and I went, Okay, well, you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>choice here. You can either keep complaining or you can

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<v Speaker 2>choose to do this and just put every bit of

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<v Speaker 2>your attention and energy into trying to nail it as

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<v Speaker 2>very best you can inside the process, whether you like

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<v Speaker 2>think you like it or not. That's what you said

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<v Speaker 2>when you started this course, that maybe it'll be the

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<v Speaker 2>shittest one you've ever done, and that you'll learn something.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when it came to facing that, it's still

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<v Speaker 2>very hard, right, because you go, I'm going to be shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's going to think I'm shit. I'm going to be embarrassed,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be awkward. Important people are going to

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<v Speaker 2>see me fail, and I don't want to feel like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the I mean, you just managed a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things, But what were the things that for you

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<v Speaker 1>were the hardest to overcome or deal with or navigate

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of getting there and doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the things that I value in speaking, that

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I bring are me just being very

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<v Speaker 2>grounded and relatable and real and in the moment and

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<v Speaker 2>present and connected to my audience, like we are having

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<v Speaker 2>a one on one conversation at a coffee shop. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I think. I really love that style of a speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>someone that just isn't putting on a performance. Especially A

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<v Speaker 2>big part of my keynote is talking about the masks

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<v Speaker 2>we wear and to drop the mask because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't get real results, we don't know ourselves, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't overcome our bullshit when we're wearing a mask. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a value of mine. And so then I'm creating

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<v Speaker 2>this keynote that is quite tightly Like initially we script

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<v Speaker 2>every we script the entire thing, which I found a

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<v Speaker 2>challenge because how I write and how I talk a different.

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you get your thoughts down into written

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<v Speaker 2>words that are the words that you would say when

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<v Speaker 2>you're speaking. So that process was tricky, and I just thought,

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<v Speaker 2>my head's going to be so full of this new

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<v Speaker 2>information and that the things I value the most can't

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<v Speaker 2>possibly happen, and I will forget because of my brain

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<v Speaker 2>isn't always my best mate when it comes to details.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get up there, I'll make eye contact and crack

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<v Speaker 2>a joke with someone, and then I'll think, I've no

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<v Speaker 2>idea where I'm at or where I'm what I'm supposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just I will blame. I thought, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen, and that's going to be really embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was my challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>So for you also because you are probably a bit

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<v Speaker 1>like me in that like I've never which is not

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<v Speaker 1>say this is a good thing or a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've never in my life rehearsed or practiced or

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<v Speaker 1>anything ever. Like I've never had a script. I've always had,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dot point notes, and you were a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit like that. But this this was very much where

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted it to be, at least initially somewhat scripted,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you could kind of have pretty much a

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<v Speaker 1>set presentation, which is really not your natural habitat or

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<v Speaker 1>your normal operating system. Right, sure not, So were you

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<v Speaker 1>able to, within the confines of that process still be.

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<v Speaker 2>You, interestingly more than I ever believed I could have.

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<v Speaker 2>So when it came to the day, I felt completely

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<v Speaker 2>like I almost felt like I wasn't scripted at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew it. I knew what I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and obviously there were things I was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, within that process itself, it is not to

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<v Speaker 2>be word perfect scripted. It's just to tightly know your content.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty much how it rolled out, which I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying the whole time, old kid, it's just memorizing words.

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<v Speaker 2>But it actually did unfold that way, and it gave

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<v Speaker 2>me a lead up of the weeks. In leading up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm normally like, I can't do anything

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, oh, oh, I got to do this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm all anxious. I've never been so relaxed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been so relaxed as I was on the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had the best fun because I just trusted

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<v Speaker 2>that I was going to say what I needed to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I just got to improvise and crack jokes

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<v Speaker 2>and know that you know, I guess the most pressure

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<v Speaker 2>that was there was that I had it really tight

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes with two minutes leeway, and I knew because

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<v Speaker 2>I'd practiced it over and over, I knew that I

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<v Speaker 2>was hitting forty two minutes every time. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have time to dilly dally or get or go on

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<v Speaker 2>a tangent or muck around. So yeah, it gave me

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<v Speaker 2>mental space to think about those little things that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't normally get to think about because I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>the content that's coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting sometimes, I think when we go through a

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<v Speaker 1>process or we commit to do something that might not

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<v Speaker 1>be fun or easy, but we want to at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the thing that we commit to, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it's a new way of eating, or whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it's a speaking program, or whether or not it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing an undergrad degree, or whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>it's like anything where it's a process and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go and work at it and you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep showing up. I think quite often it's actually ironically

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the thing that you're doing, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're creating the outcome, and the outcome for you was

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<v Speaker 1>you rocked up. You did it, you did a good job,

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<v Speaker 1>people liked it, you did a good presentation, tickety boot,

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<v Speaker 1>as Paul Taylor says. But in the middle of that

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of you really develop and you really learn,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're actually, as you said, you're dealing with all

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<v Speaker 1>of the shit it's personally that you're then going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people about. And so you're still a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>dysfunctional work in progress, you know, just like me. The

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<v Speaker 1>amount of times in my in the last six years,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, three days ago it was six years

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<v Speaker 1>my PhD and you know it's about two months away maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but the amount of times where I've I've thought, not

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<v Speaker 1>how could I give up? Right, because it's not really,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, how do I get out of this? How

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<v Speaker 1>do I get out of it? Because this is like

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<v Speaker 1>is it worth it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I doing it? Do I need to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I already have a decent following. A few people think

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm talking about. I've written a few books,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a few things. I've got a profile. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not shit like there's a bit of respect for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, a few people think I'm a.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck with That's all right, but it's gonna make a

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<v Speaker 3>difference and that, and it's it's just because it's fucking hard,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh god, and it takes so long.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you're you're, you know, like you were in

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of this paradigm, this model, this program that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't your natural habitat. And I've been in a version

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<v Speaker 1>of that for six years where I'm not a natural academic,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm in that world and you learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it right. And even when I'm finished, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out and go, yeah, I'm an academic,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm I've done an academic process. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see myself as an academic. But somebody who's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can do certain things, just like I can play guitar,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't call myself a musician, right. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can run, but I don't call myself a runner.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so, yeah, well you did this thing, Craigan, you

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<v Speaker 1>created this result, and Tip you did the same and

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<v Speaker 1>well done. But the interesting thing for me is it's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the hardest things I've done in my

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<v Speaker 1>life because it isn't where I excel. It isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I'm great at. It's like people go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, oh, you like when I built my

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<v Speaker 1>businesses and stuff, like I built gyms, Well, that's my

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<v Speaker 1>fucking natural habitat. And yeah there was business stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>commercial stuff that I needed to learn and adapt to.

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<v Speaker 1>But like for me, doing a PhD is twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>times harder than building a business, you know, and being

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having to write a certain way which is

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<v Speaker 1>not the way that I write, having to talk a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way, which is not the way that I talk,

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<v Speaker 1>having to go and present to four people in front

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<v Speaker 1>of an academic board to rationalize, and which is of

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<v Speaker 1>course I need to do this and I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But again, like I'm talking of four people

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm terrified the day before I'm talking to with

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand people and I'm i can telling dick jokes

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<v Speaker 1>and having the best time ever, right, and it's just oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is And so it's that, what's the room that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to grow in? Where do I need to

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<v Speaker 1>go to grow, because what is very easy to do

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<v Speaker 1>is to default to the thing that you're good at,

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<v Speaker 1>or the thing that you're most comfortable with, or the

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<v Speaker 1>thing where you'll get the most praise. Right, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can go into some rooms and get all the

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<v Speaker 1>backslaps in the world and all the accolades and your ace. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>my ego fucking loves that, my self esteem loves that,

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<v Speaker 1>my fear and insecurity loves that. Or I can go

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<v Speaker 1>to another room, which is the room I actually need

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<v Speaker 1>to go to if I'm talking about yes, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn, grow, evolve, be better. Well, Craig, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the room. It's not the room you want, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>the room you need. And I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just went for six months or whateverver it was,

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<v Speaker 1>into a room that you needed. I mean, in there

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<v Speaker 1>six years and then I'm sure when I come out

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<v Speaker 1>of this room, I'll go into another room at some stage.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like that, I think actually choosing that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a strategic intelligence not reckless way, but choosing that

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<v Speaker 1>this comfort, as long as it aligns with the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gross that you want, I think it's I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a superpower. But we we spend so much time

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about we generally trying to avoid that room,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's to our own detriment, and when.

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<v Speaker 2>You choose it, you learn so much about yourself. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I always talk about how much I learned stepping into

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<v Speaker 2>the boxing ring and seeing that version of Tiff that's

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of a fight, that's in vit or flight,

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<v Speaker 2>that can't spin, spin a story or bullshit because the

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<v Speaker 2>reaction is there. You react, and then you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the person that cowers or ducks or this, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the person that didn't fight, and then I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do the work to change it. I learned that it's

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<v Speaker 2>getting on this like I would was pacing around beforehand,

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<v Speaker 2>going I'd rather be punched in the face right now,

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<v Speaker 2>right because I'd rather get in the ring and fight,

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<v Speaker 2>because at least people you do a brave thing, Like

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<v Speaker 2>at least if I fail, it's not because I'm shit,

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<v Speaker 2>It's because someone was better on the day. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting on the stage by myself. If I fail, no

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<v Speaker 2>one beat me. I let myself down, or that's the

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<v Speaker 2>story we tell. I haven't let myself down, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like, oh, I just learned something about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the story I might cling to about how

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<v Speaker 2>courageous I am or how I do hard things. Half

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<v Speaker 2>my keynote is on our relationship with hard things. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>putting that under the microscope and I just think that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you're talking about hard things in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of doing a hard thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a sorry, there was a there was a

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<v Speaker 2>speaker who she's a neurosign and she's amazing, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was speaking for the very first time ever on how

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<v Speaker 2>stress affects the brain, and her keynote is exceptional. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of that, I've got goosebumps now every

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<v Speaker 2>time I talk about it, goosebumps. She was the biggest inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>She was freezing and forgetting, and for the whole forty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of her keynote, she just kept coming up to

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<v Speaker 2>these huge silences where she just stood and needed to

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<v Speaker 2>go inside and find what the f she was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to say next, and she I can't tell you. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, that's the She is the biggest inspiration to

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<v Speaker 2>me in that room, and she's braver than me, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would have gone, hey, guys, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about it's happening to me right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Soone'm on of f off out the back like that,

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<v Speaker 2>to just stand there, to not apologize, to not get flustered,

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<v Speaker 2>to not get nerves like obviously she had nerves, but

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<v Speaker 2>she held the space and the whole room just held

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<v Speaker 2>her and loved her for it. Like that is courage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's that is amazing. That is and for

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<v Speaker 1>people to you know, what was going on and to

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<v Speaker 1>be there and to be okay with that and for her.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I love about that is that is a

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<v Speaker 1>good story. What I love about that is that if

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<v Speaker 1>she keeps going, which I hope she does, she's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to build on that and that'll be that that

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<v Speaker 1>will become part of her story. And that the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the six hundred episodes of the U Project losing money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that It's like, you know, all the gigs that

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<v Speaker 1>I did before I was any good, you know, before

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<v Speaker 1>I got paid any money, before I got actual money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like, yeah, how do you how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how do you become masterful? How do you become highly skilled?

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>How do you become how do you become elite? How

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>do you optimize your potential? How do you how do

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you get the most out of you? Will you get

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>up and you freeze maybe, and and you lose your place,

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>and you don't give up, and you stand there and

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>you just figure it out and you sold your on

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>And then next time you probably won't do that, or

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you might do it less. And then eventually you're going

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to tell this story about the first time you got

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>up and what a train wreckord kind of was, but

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>also what a massive learning experience it was and how

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it shaped you. You know, this is like pretty much

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>everything in life is about how we.

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Respond, and the appreciation for the result comes only because

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 2>of the hard you of it. I am only as elated.

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.879
<v Speaker 2>I was elate. I felt like I'd just had my

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 2>first fight again. I had first fight adrenaline. I had

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 2>first fighted adrenaline. Before speaking on stage, I definitely had

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.639
<v Speaker 2>it for two days afterwards. I felt like I was

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 2>coming down from hard drugs. But that is only that

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 2>is not because of the moment on stage. That is

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 2>because of what I chose not to crumble under in

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 2>the lean up. That is because I know and I

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.199
<v Speaker 2>loved that I came so close to not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>MM so good. Yeah, it's yeah, well here's my quick story.

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>So you know what's going on with my dad, and

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>my listeners kind of know. So he's just gone through

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>some really difficult stuff. So I had to do I

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>had to talk Tuesday morning, and I got off the

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>plane Monday evening and found out what was going on

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>with dad. So then and then I had which I

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>spoke about. I did a podcast about this, which went

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>up Monday, I think, but which it just is what

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, And but then not sleeping, worrying

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>about my dad, who's and then worrying about my mum

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 1>who really you know, my dad's eighty six, my mum's

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>eighty six in a few weeks. And it's just really

0:27:55.440 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>complicated and it's honestly, it's pretty difficult, but it is

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>what it is, right, and then trying to trying to

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>not put it out of your mind but not let

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>that destroy you. And then I had to get up

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>less than twenty four hours, you know, so like I

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>would have slept, I don't know how much I slept,

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>but not more than an hour. And then I got

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>up and I had to go and talk to a

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>room full of lawyers, God bless them, and be funny

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and tell great stories and be inspirational and share great ideas.

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>And you can't walk in and go listen, I know

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>you're paying me five X, but I'm just going to

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>give you one x value because I've had a hard night. Yeah,

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and can I tell you about what's going on in

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>my purse? You can't do that, understandably, and neither should you.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>So you know this is and then well what is that? Well,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that's life. It's like, yeah, if I and by the way,

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you know it, if me staying up there or flying

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>home straight away wouldn't have made any difference to what

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>was going on with my dad for anyone who's thinking

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that otherwise I would have flown home. But yeah, it's

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>in that. Oh, well this is. It doesn't get much

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>worse than this in terms of like when somebody that

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you love is is, you know, in a really challenging situation,

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and my energy and my emotions and my mind and

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to a great extent my body were almost not present.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>But then you've got to then you've got to rock up,

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and you've got to go and breathe and just be

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>totally here, totally nowhere else. And you know that's that's

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the thing, is like that is life Sometimes like life

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>is just a fuck fest, and in the middle of

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that we need to try to find a way to

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>be whatever it is you need to be in that

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>moment to get through it. And then then go to

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the Quantus Club and have a little cry in the

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>bathroom crate you can do it there, have a little

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>tandy in the corner, eat your own body weight in

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Quantus Club food, do whatever you want, but for this

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>hour you need to be amazing.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>How do you compartmentalize or give yourself a space or

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>a moment to be in the middle of what's going on,

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 2>and then in order to park it to function? How

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 2>do you navigate those two?

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>So what I do, and again this is not a

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>recommendation nor advice, is I totally feel what I'm feeling.

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>And then I don't try to not feel any of it.

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't try to I don't put my head in

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the sand, I don't pretend it's not going on. But

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>about literally only about five ten minutes before I then

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>just try to clear my mind, get really kind of

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>still and calm, and I go into it with that

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>awareness but without being focused on it. And what I

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>did was which I wasn't. I kind of waxed and waned.

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And in the last kind of five to eight minutes

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>of my presentation, I told the audience, because we're talking

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>about performing under pressure, we're talking about dealing with adversity,

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about being able to be, you know, the

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>best version of us that we could be despite you know,

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that goes on, right, And I said, so,

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I said to them, I've been back, going back and

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>forth mentally as to whether or not I would share

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>this with you, but I think it kind of, you know,

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>without being self indulgent, without looking for any kind of

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>anything from you, let me just tell you about my

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>last eighteen hours. And I told them, and it's like

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>half of them almost cried all of a sudden, just

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>being very you know, i'd been very real and raw,

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>but being very real and raw in the last ten minutes,

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like, Oh, it created a level of connection that

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't until it. There was connection and there was

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>rapport and it was good. But all of a sudden,

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>we opened a door, maybe three doors, and we went

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>like three levels deeper. And yeah, and I feel like

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that was almost the deal maker, you know, in terms

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of them going, oh, that was fucking great. And by

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the way, you know, and half the people in the

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>room would have come up. A few people came up,

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>got me a hug. A few people just quite a

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>few people just said, you know, thanks for sharing that.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>That kind of put things into perspective. I hope your

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>dad's right and all of that stuff. You know, But

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and whether or not you're a corporate speaker or you're

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a plumber, you know, you go to work and you

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>do you know, plumbers have bad days, Plumbers have dads

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that get sick. You know, it's school teachers have you know,

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone's got to deal with someone in their world getting

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>sick or dying or you know, we've all got to

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>deal with injustice. Sadly, we've all got to deal with

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>unfairness and pain and loss, and you know, while we're

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>still going to be human and like, I don't pretend

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not hard. I just go, all right, well, in

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the middle of this, how do I navigate this? How

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>do I walk my own talk while not being a sociopath?

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, like I've still got to feel what I've

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>got to feel, and you know, there are times where

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, all right, well, for now, this is just

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 1>how I need to be in this moment, and I

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>can do that. Doesn't mean I'm denying anything that's going

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>on or denying my emotions. But yeah, so that that

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 1>was an interesting and it's been an interesting week since,

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. And that's like here's the here's the thing, right,

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>there are just and it's going to happen to you

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>one day, right, a version of that, And like the

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>thing is that there's just always going to be things

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that affect us that are real tough, that are actually

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>out of our control. And so our challenge is not

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to control it or try to control it, but rather

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to do what we can for those people, love them,

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 1>serve them, look up whatever we can, but then really

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to manage ourselves around the stuff that we can't manage,

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. And and two, yeah, it's it's an interesting

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting time. And what I find, as somebody

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>who's done eight years of conversations like this, it's like

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>almost a moment and even bigger moment of self awareness

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>for me because I go, all right, mister fucking self help,

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>mister the U project, mister ah be all you can be,

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>mister can you perform under pressure, mister, What do you

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>like when the shit is yeah? Like? What are you like? Like?

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>What do you like like? What do you like when

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you know when no one's looking? What do you like

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>when you know you're not getting a fucking any kind

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of social emotional trophy for this? You know? That's that's

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the thing. And I think that's why so much of

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>our evolution, our becoming better, whatever that means for us, building, resilience, building,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>skill building, competence, doing, thinking, being better, so much of

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it is about what happens when no one's looking or

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>giving a fuck or cheering. And I think that that's

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's part of the key.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 2>And the choice to share that when you did is

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 2>such a gift, Like, I don't think you understand how

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>much that would solidify everything you spoke about, Like, because

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>when people think now and something hard happens and they

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 2>think of all the theory you'd left them with, they'll go, yeah,

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and you know what he was going through this when

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 2>he told us that, and he still showed up, you know,

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 2>and didn't show it by suppressing it and hiding it

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and pretending it wasn't happening, just showed up.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you another story. This is probably

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>not a good idea, but fuck it. So one of

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>my best friends in the world passed away, Rob Dixon, Dicko. Gee,

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how many He must have been

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>the best part of fifteen or thirteen years ago. And

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I had a corporate gig and my corporate gig was

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>two o'clock and Dicko's funeral was midday and where the

0:36:55.360 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>church was. Where the church was was about eight minute

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>motorbike ride from where my gieg was. So this is

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>my plan, in hindsight, not the best. So I went

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to one of my best friend's funeral. I was a

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>fucking mess, as all of us were. And he yeah,

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.399
<v Speaker 1>this is the saddest story ever. Anyway, he passed away,

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and so did his two sons who were little boys,

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and his wife, Dusty, beautiful lady she was. It was

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the saddest funeral you could imagine anyway, and way sadder

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>for the family than me. But you know, like him

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and I were great friends, as he was with many people. Right.

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>But so I thought, it's going to be about now.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Then I'll have about now to regroup and go and

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>do this thing. I'll get through it. It had been

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>booked forever. There was quite a lot of people at

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>this gig. It was just me, not like there was

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>eight other speakers. I could pull out.

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 4>And and so I the funeral went forever and a

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 4>quarter to two.

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 1>So I've got a gig in fifteen minutes. I had

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to leave. And so I rode to this place. I

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.759
<v Speaker 1>don't even know why I'm telling this story, this is

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>just but I rode to this place crying, so on

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>my motorbike, in my helmet, crying. And I get there

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.959
<v Speaker 1>and I've got to try and and I'm a fucking wreck.

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm in no state to do this right. And anyway,

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I go into the bathroom. I get there like four

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>minutes before I go into the bathroom, I wash my face,

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I get my shit together, and I start and I

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>do my thing, and I can't remember anyway. Towards the end,

0:38:54.640 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned what my what had happened not and I

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>lost my shit. I lost my shit, and I didn't

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like thought, but I just and I was in front

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.240
<v Speaker 1>of this whole group, and I just I started crying,

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and then I started to apologize for crying. And then

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>like one of the ladies actually came up and hugged me,

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>which was beautiful, but then it made it worse, Like

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 1>now I'm really fucked. Oh my god, I'd forgotten about

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that till we started talking about my dad's thing. But yeah,

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I've had some really interesting moments on stage,

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and I like, I look at that, and I think

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:44.280
<v Speaker 1>they could have been really angry with me, because nobody

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>wants that dude up on the stage, Like, oh, we

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>get in this inspirational guy who starts crying and I'm like,

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>fuck and hell, if you guys want your money back

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and more, let me know. But they were very gracious

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<v Speaker 1>and very kind.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you learn? Did you learn something out of

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<v Speaker 2>that about you personally or professional?

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<v Speaker 1>I it's like, yeah, what did I learn? Well, practically,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, I realized later I shouldn't. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it was going to be. I thought there would

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<v Speaker 1>be an hour's gap and I would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get myself together, but there wasn't. So in hindsheight, maybe

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have done it. But as it turns out,

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>they I got more positive. I didn't really get any negative.

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they just felt sorry for me. But I just

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>think that you know, without being without being an attention seeker.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it's like when I did the podcast the other

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>day about and the podcast was called I've had a

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty shit week or whatever. Right now, I've never had

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<v Speaker 1>a negative title in all of my podcasts, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>never got on and ever try to seek sympathy or

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>pity or and I definitely wasn't doing it with that.

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But my motivation was, or my reasoning was, I really

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 1>had had had a ship week with other people as well,

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I don't want to and I was

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>doing a solo one. It was just me, I don't

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>want to get on here and pretend I'm happy. I

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get on here, and I thought, why

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.720
<v Speaker 1>don't I just get on and without making it, without

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to make it depressing or sad, just go. So

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>this is, you know, this is the guy that's always

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to inspire and inform and educate and all that stuff.

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Tell you a story makes you laugh. Here's that guy

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>who's honestly had a hunt of a week. Let's be honest, right,

0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and just to talk about that, because I think, you know,

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>and then to talk about how i'd kind of navigated

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that that I did a stellar job. But I could

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>have done worse. I guess. I think that's part of

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the biggest compliment for me is that about

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 1>this show is that people relate to it, really relate

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 1>to it, and relate to the conversations and hopefully us

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 1>today and and rather than getting on going, Hey everybody,

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.839
<v Speaker 1>here's how you deal with sadness. Here's how you deal

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>with depression and tough situations. Get out your pen and

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>paper step one. Step one, think positive things. Step two,

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>get in nature, get your toes in the sands. Step three,

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:45.839
<v Speaker 1>just self, feel what you feel. Step four, what's your

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>rom Come, We'll be back tomorrow. You know, it's like

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>it's sometimes I think, fuck, is this even good to

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.879
<v Speaker 1>listen to? Like when I finished that solo the other

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>day with me just banging on about the week I

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>sent it to Melissa or Melissa had a listen and

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I went, was that dog shit? And she goes, no.

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, because I feel like I don't want to

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>put something up that is just going to make people

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>sad or depressed or but I think that's the beauty

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>of even You know, in life, there are peaks and troughs,

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and in eight years of broadcasting, a show there are

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>peaks and troughs. And I think that people when I

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>look up to someone or have learned from someone and

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they never have a problem, well I

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 1>can't relate really, But when I see that, oh, they're

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>navigating hard things as well, I'm more likely to lean

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>in and pay attention and I can still learn, you know,

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and I can go, oh, well, this happened to Craig

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and this is what he did. Which is not say

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>anyone else should do what I did or react how

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I did, but just knowing that, yeah, no, of course

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 1>things are shit times. Of Course they get angry, of

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>course they get frustrated. Of course I want to fucking

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>punch someone in the face. I wouldn't. I wouldn't though,

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>but that you know, that feeling, it's like, you know, sometimes,

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>especially when you've got an eighty six year old dad,

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes without saying anything specifically, fuck, sometimes I feel like

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>for some people, oh, he's just a problem. It's like

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry, we're here, I'm sorry. My dad's

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.879
<v Speaker 1>eighty six, and that you have to you know, you're

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>like fucking hell, you know, it's like ah, But then

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 1>me being that way, outwardly fixes nothing, in fact creates

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>more problems. So me needing to and also understanding the

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 1>greater context. And you know, in hospitals like we were in,

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>where everyone's trying and it's busy and they're under resourced

0:44:54.840 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>and over demanded and if that's a word, and yeah, me,

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>me trying to manage me in the middle of all

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>of that, so that I'm the best for Dad and

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the best for Mum and also a decent human for

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>other people to be around. Yeah, it's an exercise in

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 1>self control and self management. And you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's also really nice that episode. Like one thing

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>that you're probably not the very, very very best at

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 2>is letting people hold space for you and care about you.

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think letting that that's soft. Fuck that letting

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 2>the t one that I.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Didn't need any of that. Fuck that, I'm an island.

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm an island humanity, I'm an island. Don't throw your

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 1>boat over here. Fuck off with your boat.

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 2>But just not like not just being showing up for

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 2>typ community to be a lesson, but let them hold

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the space and go, hey, we're fucking here for you.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think you understand how beneficial that is

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>for you, Like we want to do that. Everyone that

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 2>follows you in that group wants to wants to say

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>something to let you know that they're all here and

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:16.720
<v Speaker 2>that they love that you're human, and like that's a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, you broke up. I didn't hear any of that.

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, and you're also a bit of a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>With Yeah, well, thank you, and thank you to everybody

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 1>for all the nice things I've got, like lots and

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>lots of lots of love and lots of yeah, lots

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of support and also you know, via a messenger and

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of shit. It's been I don't have a

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 1>chicken casserole, so if somebody wants to reach out with food,

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that's probably my love language. It's probably my love language,

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>chicken casserole. No pressure the OH box, all right, before

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you make me cry, I'm going to wind it up.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's been bued. Congrats on your speaking kind of

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not your debut, but on a big stage. That

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 1>was your speaking debut to the world. That's fucking you

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>opening the door to the big time. So well done.

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Congrats and thanks for hanging out with me for an

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>hour or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you