WEBVTT - LUCKY DIP, EP 123

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lucky lucky, lucky lucky dip. Damn, it's mail.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday. This is like a dip episode today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Monty, Hello everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, it is It's Mal and Monty. Our bite

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<v Speaker 1>sized little nuggets of podcast are our lucky Dip episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're new to the podcast, thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just a little morsel. And then on Thursdays

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<v Speaker 1>we also have a long reform podcast. And then every

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<v Speaker 1>second Monday we have our iconic podcast that I do

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<v Speaker 1>with book around chronic health.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at us what a network. See We've got We've

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<v Speaker 2>always got something for you, always for always you. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of requests. I know you're very busy, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of requests come through.

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<v Speaker 2>For It's a doozy where you deep dive.

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<v Speaker 1>Into a fucking random story.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really miss doing them a lot. I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just very time poor. But I will I will.

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<v Speaker 2>I will definitely try and try and.

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<v Speaker 1>See how you go. Don't kill yourself over at duh.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, we've been inundated with messages. One message mate, Bryl.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's been quite a few to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, really.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually quite good. I do have to say I

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<v Speaker 2>would listen to them if I were, well, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a little story, a little bit of trivia. Maybe let's say, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like you. Okay, so we all know Frank Sinatra, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>oh blue eyes. He was also a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>shit person. There's some story he was.

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<v Speaker 1>A Mormonizer, wasn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>He was, but like beyond that, like hit like underage

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<v Speaker 2>girls and all that stuff, like just yeah, not.

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<v Speaker 1>That she used to fly back then. You know, his

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<v Speaker 1>mum was like a really full on feminist and she

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she was a doctor or what

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<v Speaker 1>she was exactly, but she performed abortions back when maybe

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<v Speaker 1>aren't able to be. Yeah, she was like a real

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<v Speaker 1>fucking real you know, women's rights, would go against the

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<v Speaker 1>law and just was a real powerhouse. So the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he was such a womaniser is quite interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny, it's so his parents were Italian immigrants,

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<v Speaker 2>right right. Italy seems quite progressive in some ways. Just

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<v Speaker 2>for an article come up the other day about how

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to push for babies to automatically take the

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<v Speaker 2>mothers because they keep their maiden names over there, do they? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so like Mark's auntie, let's say her surname's Smith, and

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<v Speaker 2>she marries someone whose surname's brown. The way they do

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<v Speaker 2>it is her name would be like Melissa Smith and

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<v Speaker 2>then they say in brown, so it's almost hyphenating or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But they generally will keep their maiden names attached to

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<v Speaker 2>their name. But yeah, they're trying to change it so

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<v Speaker 2>that babies are born they take the mother's surname. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, that makes total sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, of course it all like it's everything so archaic

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<v Speaker 1>and we often don't question it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like, I know, why do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it? Because it was an ownership thing, like so

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<v Speaker 1>people would know the woman belonged to that man. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why you've got the same name.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so weird. And as you said, you don't even

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have even really questioned it, like I didn't. Yeah, yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So Frank Sinatra, funnily enough, you knew he released fifty

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<v Speaker 2>nine studio albums and had two hundred and ninety seven singles.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred and ninety seven isn't total like unbelievable, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing yeah. Anyway, towards the end of his life, the

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<v Speaker 2>last few years, he'd been in really shitty health because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he'd lived, lived any Yeah, loved a durrry,

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<v Speaker 2>loved a bit of boot, he did it. So in

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<v Speaker 2>February of nineteen ninety seven, he had a major heart

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<v Speaker 2>attack and he hadn't been seen in public since, right, okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So then on the night of May fourteenth, nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>so a year and a bit later, he's at home

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<v Speaker 2>with his wife when he has like a massive heart attack. Shit,

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<v Speaker 2>she calls nine to one one. The ambulance get there

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<v Speaker 2>in like record time, four minutes or so, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they get to see the Sinai hospital like in unprecedented time.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason that they got there so quick and got

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital so quick is because also on May fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight, was the season finale of Seinfeld. No. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so everybody there was no traffic on the road. My god,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was inside watching the season finale. That is amazing, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Frank's daughter Nancy Sinatra, these boots are made for.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she sing that song?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Oh no? Was that her?

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<v Speaker 1>No? That was Jessica.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but anyway, so his daughter Nancy was meant to

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<v Speaker 2>go and visit him earlier that day, but she got

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in a vortex of watching Seinfeld reruns before the

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<v Speaker 2>finale was going to be, so she never got there

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<v Speaker 2>to see him, and she only learned of her dad's

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<v Speaker 2>death after the episode had finished, because he did end

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<v Speaker 2>up going on to die. They kept him alive for

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<v Speaker 2>about an hour and then he died.

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<v Speaker 1>And so did they go, like, just out of courtesy, go, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what, Nancy's a mad Seinfeld fan. Let's call

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<v Speaker 1>her after the episode finishes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I think I think it was because it

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<v Speaker 2>was an hour right, like the episode had finished before

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<v Speaker 2>he'd actually died, and also the timing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like two tragic events on the same day. I ever

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<v Speaker 1>think I saw the Seinfeld ending, but apparently it was

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest fucking stoinker of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're bringing it back. I think Jerry Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 2>said something I think a few months ago that's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of they're going to start Seinfeld again. That yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>said something. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, God, it's risky, it's too risky. Although Kirby

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<v Speaker 1>your enthusiasm. Larry David, who was the creator of Seinfeld

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<v Speaker 1>with Seinfeld who didn't wasn't involved in the last episode

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<v Speaker 1>because that part of his stuff on Larry Day on

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<v Speaker 1>Kirby Your Enthusiasm was blatantly saying that he wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that shit show. But he's the fucking funniest

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<v Speaker 1>and is the funniest show. I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would appreciate Seinfeld more now than I

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<v Speaker 1>would back when it was on. I didn't really get

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<v Speaker 1>it then. On a side note, just to up myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how many people have said that I remind

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<v Speaker 1>them of a Lane Really. Yeah, it was about to

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<v Speaker 1>say book wise, but personality wise, Like I worked with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people who are like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Cannot believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because their thing was they would pick

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<v Speaker 1>up on the tiniest detail of something. And yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I tend to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would love to see her in that role again.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her so much, Julia Luis Dreyfus. She's like

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<v Speaker 2>a genius to me. Yeah, yeah, well exactly, I can

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<v Speaker 2>see the correlation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know, of course, a couple of other quick things.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know that the night after Sinatra's death. The

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<v Speaker 2>lights on the Empire State Building, they turned them blue,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they dimmed all the lights I think for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time on the Las Vegas Strip, and for

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<v Speaker 2>one minute they stopped all the slot machines. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark's cousin was there at the time, and when she

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<v Speaker 2>came back, she was like, it was the most fucking

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<v Speaker 2>eerie thing ever. She said, It's like all the sound,

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<v Speaker 2>all the whatever that's always happening in Vegas. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like every sign quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>That gives me goosebumps, meeting being in Crown Casino in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that was all quite how eerie that would

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<v Speaker 1>be let alone Vagus you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Same And Seinfeld was the fourth most watched series finale

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<v Speaker 2>of all time. I'm like, I would have for sure

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was the number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what else is there?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what the top three are? I'll go from three.

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<v Speaker 2>Three is the Fugitive. I don't even know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two was cheese, Okay, Yeah, Number one was what

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<v Speaker 2>we would have thought as kids, was the worst show ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say mash mash just.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was all the green, oh so much green,

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<v Speaker 2>so much cark.

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