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Speaker 1: I was three sixty Rugby League from every angle, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Regain joining me again the great cordin

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Speaker 1: Tallis Spring the journals in Paul Crawley and Dean Richie.

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Speaker 2: How good was that?

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Speaker 1: For a scene set out of the Melbourne Storm taking

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Speaker 1: on the Crno Sharks and Bulldog Fanila Blake says that

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Speaker 1: he fears no one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Braith. I spoke to the big fellow down

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Speaker 3: there at Shark Park for a media day yesterday, quote unquote,

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Speaker 3: I have never feared anyone, and I'm not about to

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Speaker 3: start now.

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Speaker 4: Bite down on your mouthguard.

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Speaker 3: Let's fight fire with fire, and I'm taking this game personally.

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Speaker 4: This is good. This is big Blocker circa twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: I was you in the two shot and I saw

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Speaker 5: that on the news last night.

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Speaker 3: It was a free shot because he was about two

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Speaker 3: heads bigger than me.

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Speaker 2: He asked you something. Did he fear you though?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 4: He checked me over a bit breath. I think it

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Speaker 4: was a bit intimidated.

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Speaker 2: But as a journalist, none.

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Speaker 4: As a journalist, he's lucky physical seen. But you know what,

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Speaker 4: I love a bike that.

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Speaker 3: Comes out pregame and has a whack good on him.

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Speaker 3: He's drawn a line in the sand, Gord. He wants

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Speaker 3: to rip in and he's basically saying, follow me, I'll

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Speaker 3: lead you into battle.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, that's what your front rowers are supposed to say.

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Speaker 7: That's what pretty much the four teams left I supposed

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Speaker 7: to be saying as well. And the last time the

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Speaker 7: Sharks won, they had a front row like him and

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Speaker 7: Andrew for Feeder. They had a big body in the

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Speaker 7: front that could do something different, had a bit of

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Speaker 7: X factor, you know, and Andrew for Feeder. He scored

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Speaker 7: that winning, tried to put Melbourne out of it. If

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Speaker 7: we all remember and when and when.

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Speaker 3: You listen to Craig Fitzgibbon talk about him and how

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Speaker 3: he describes him as a man like he's the man

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Speaker 3: on the field and he's the man off the field.

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Speaker 3: Like the difference he's made to that club in both areas,

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Speaker 3: it's been enormous.

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Speaker 2: What are going forward to What about the match up

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Speaker 2: Grant v.

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Speaker 3: Brawley, Well, Harry Grant, Harry Grant since Origin won his

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Speaker 3: worst game, the way that he's responded to that and

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Speaker 3: led the Storm this year, and as Matt Nabel just

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Speaker 3: said in that opener, he is Melbourne's main man at

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Speaker 3: the moment, but Brayley's leadership on and off the field.

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Speaker 3: He's a man of actions, not necessarily words. He's so crafty,

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Speaker 3: he is intelligent, and he's so tough and it's underrated

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Speaker 3: how tough he is.

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Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the ins and outs for

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Speaker 1: the prelim finals thanks to Sports Better. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I've seen bigger inns to prelims than this. Jerome Hughes

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Speaker 1: has been named at seven for the Melbourne Storm with

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Speaker 1: that dislocated shoulder returning from the broken wrists. Now Pappenhausen

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Speaker 1: returns also from injury. Kfusi onto the bench for Hazelton

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Speaker 1: for the Sharks. Now the combination here Reynolds at halfback

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Speaker 1: and Ezra Man named on the bench for the Brisbane

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Speaker 1: Broncos at the right time of the year and the

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Speaker 1: Pendeth Panthers after their demolition of the Dogs are unchanged.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Melbourne firstly.

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Speaker 1: Jerome Hughes interestingly gets selected under a huge injury clout

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Speaker 1: racing the clock.

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Speaker 2: To get back, but he has been named.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Look, I was at that game live just as a spectator.

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Speaker 7: When he played Brisbane and he was struggling before that.

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Speaker 7: I don't know whether his shoulders like he sub black

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Speaker 7: all chips in in it for the Melbourne Storm. They

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Speaker 7: probably need him because they lost a fair bit that night.

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Speaker 7: I thought with Harry and Munster they were probably a

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Speaker 7: little bit lost without you know, Hughes and his running game,

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Speaker 7: and Papa isn't out the back, so there's a fair

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Speaker 7: bit of X fact they come back.

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Speaker 3: They did check him with Melbourne to day gents and

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Speaker 3: he's been training all week, but today was the first

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Speaker 3: time he did contact, so they haven't led on as

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Speaker 3: to how he pulled through that. We've seen no press releases,

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Speaker 4: But it's a game. There's no doubting it's.

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Speaker 7: The last time was Shane Webke what twenty twenty odd

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Speaker 7: days and I played with Shane webkn that game. He's tough,

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Speaker 7: different position, one's a front rower. But Webby was in

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Speaker 7: a fair bit of pain with it right, He's going

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Speaker 7: to get a fair bit of traffic, would you would imagine?

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Speaker 3: It was interesting listening to Cooper Kronk talk about this

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Speaker 3: on the Cooper and Maddie podcast the other day. He

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Speaker 3: actually said if people would have known how bad his

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Speaker 3: doesn't think they would have won because they would have

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Speaker 4: And yet everyone.

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Speaker 3: Knows that Hughes has done. He's dessiccated his shoulder and

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Speaker 3: now he's got a broken arm. So you would think

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Speaker 3: if Bellamy's ready to back in, Hughes has told him

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Speaker 3: that he's right, there can be no excuses, but they

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Speaker 3: will go after it.

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Speaker 1: It to be cool too, because they've got Wishart at fourteen.

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Speaker 1: No Jonah Pezzant after his performance a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully he is fit and firing and gets through

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Speaker 1: the game because they need him to win now. Adam

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Speaker 1: Reynolds and Reese Wall relishing the chance to avenge their

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Grand Final loss ahead of their sun

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Speaker 1: Court showdown with the Panther.

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Speaker 5: Racy can do whatever he wants to do.

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Speaker 8: I'm there a pretty much guy the boys around the

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Speaker 8: park and if while she sees an opportunity, well I'm

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Speaker 8: more for while she to get the ball, the media

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Speaker 8: But prior to that, I was trying to get while

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Speaker 8: she probably more ball. I'll do whatever it requires for

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Speaker 8: the team to win. If that was for me to

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Speaker 8: sit out, then I'll i'd sit out.

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Speaker 4: How do you reflect them? Twenty three Grand Final? And

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Speaker 4: does that? Does that motivate you?

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Speaker 8: I'm sure it motivates everyone in each and every way.

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Speaker 8: But for me, it's it's a new opportunity. It's a

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Speaker 8: new team pretty much, it's new coaching staff, you know,

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Speaker 8: new players in that group all about. There's still a

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Speaker 8: lot of that group here, mate. It's another great opportunity.

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Speaker 8: I'm coming towards the back end.

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Speaker 4: Of my career.

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Speaker 6: The boys were eleven man down, Will it was fifty

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Speaker 6: And yeah, a few swear words were said, and we're

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Speaker 6: just like, we're just going to go after it. So

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Speaker 6: everyone's got a role in the team and Big Pano, Patty,

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Speaker 6: they're their jobs to kick, chase, run hard and my

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Speaker 3: So how do you stop mat thing clearing made like

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Speaker 3: he crueled you in the twenty twenty three Grand Final.

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Speaker 2: How do you deal with it?

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Speaker 4: How does he deal with us?

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Speaker 2: That's one question mate.

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Speaker 4: No, it's exciting.

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Speaker 6: He's world class player made and if you give him opportunities,

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Speaker 6: going to take it.

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Speaker 4: It's like the same as us.

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Speaker 6: If they give us opportunities, we're going to take it.

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Speaker 6: So I guess it's just trying to minimize them.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, I'm looking forward to a challenge. How

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Speaker 2: does he deal with us? That's so good. I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's such a great response from Rhys Walsh. Now the

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Speaker 1: master conductor comes up against the master magician.

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Speaker 2: This is mouth watering.

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Speaker 4: I loved what Walsh said.

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Speaker 3: Then it's I've had a crack at him in the

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Speaker 3: past for being too cocky in different things, but that's

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Speaker 3: just honor self belief. He believes he's at the peak

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Speaker 3: of his powers right now. That performance when he came

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Speaker 3: on against the Raiders the other day was something special.

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Speaker 3: But Cleary, Cleary, and what we saw from him in

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Speaker 3: the first half on the weekend. You know who wins

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Speaker 3: this battle? Is it the conductor or is it the magician?

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Speaker 3: Because Cleari will Cleari will pick Walsh apart in areas

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Speaker 3: that won't get the same focus. Walsh is so brilliant

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Speaker 3: with the ball sometimes can be a little bit lazy

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Speaker 3: in defense, and his positional play and the way Cleary

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Speaker 3: his eyes just darting across the field last week, going

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Speaker 4: It's clearly his.

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Speaker 7: Kicking game is going to put pressure on him more

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Speaker 7: than any and that's where Reese Walsh.

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Speaker 4: At times is going to have to be on his guard.

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Speaker 7: And then if you go back to the twenty three

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Speaker 7: Grand Final long time ago, where they made those long runs,

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Speaker 7: but there's remember we're around Cleary's side, so there's a battle,

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Speaker 7: but every player thinks that no one says it.

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Speaker 4: You tell you what breath.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to pit the two stars against each other,

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Speaker 3: I know whose game.

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Speaker 9: I'd like to be backing under pressure.

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Speaker 3: Nathan in the finals is irresistible, where I don't think

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Speaker 3: Reeese Walsh, as brilliant as he is, can be temperamental.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll sledge him, they might bowl him over

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Speaker 2: He's at different levels.

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Speaker 4: Now, this is career those two games.

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Speaker 7: He's twenty minutes against Canberra was sixteen, and Hal was

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Speaker 4: Back of the Melbourne performance too.

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Speaker 3: He was going, good if things don't go good, that's

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Speaker 3: what I want.

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Speaker 4: I realized that good.

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Speaker 3: But I'm saying in that period though, I want to

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Speaker 3: see Reese, if he's put under the heat, under the pump.

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Speaker 4: Individually, how he stands up.

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Speaker 3: You know how Reynolds just said he kind of downplayed

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three Grand Final and how they fell.

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Speaker 4: Apart and lost.

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Speaker 3: How is that not a motivation for these blokes though,

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Speaker 3: because at that point they had that game won, they

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Speaker 3: had a Grand Final one. Surely, if nothing else, it

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Speaker 3: drives them to play out the four minutes.

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Speaker 2: It's a definite motivator.

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Speaker 1: And having lost the Grand Final and back in the roses.

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Speaker 1: And I've told this story a few times, but in

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Speaker 1: twenty ten we lost and we're in a position to

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Speaker 1: win it. And then the same group, well similar group

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Speaker 1: got a chance a few years later. I remember at

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Speaker 1: the time thing and these guys don't realize what they

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Speaker 1: missed out on. He I was at the back end

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Speaker 1: of my career. They're quite young. Two years later to

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Speaker 1: two or three years later they won it, and it's

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Speaker 1: definitely a motivator, but it's also when you lose one.

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Speaker 1: You know they're not easy to win and they're few

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Speaker 1: and far between and it hurts. So for sure, I

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Speaker 1: think they'll benefit from that loss, even though it was heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: It'll make him a better team. Now you said it.

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Speaker 2: Throughout the year, Reese Walsh does.

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Speaker 1: Have some deficiencies in his defense, and you think that

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Speaker 1: the Panthers will trying to capitalize.

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Speaker 4: On that just the way that Cleary plays.

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Speaker 7: I just said, Wally, if you were listening, which you weren't, disease.

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Speaker 9: He is unbelievably intelligent when it comes to football.

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Speaker 7: That was greg Inglisson, Sam Burgess get another chance for

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Speaker 7: Well, well for me it was, and I still hang

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Speaker 1: He's got to adapt to them and he knows that,

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Speaker 4: The laugh few weeks. Can I please finish?

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Speaker 4: That's my coaching.

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Speaker 9: Now you can use that if you want on.

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Speaker 7: Your job, on your podcasts that you do on swinging

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Speaker 2: He's a freak.

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Speaker 3: When I think brave Buzz will have you say that

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Speaker 4: Others will say no, the players have changed.

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Speaker 5: As many blobs as he had in the change don't well,

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Speaker 3: I think the players have learned to play under Madges' style.

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Speaker 5: Then the last month they played, Broncos foot him what

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Speaker 4: Thrown the ball around.

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Speaker 5: We've always thrown the ball around.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to grind.

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Speaker 7: I've never played with the Broncos so that wants to

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Speaker 2: Is a ground for us?

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Speaker 4: I've got a growl. I'll do it after the segment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what I've written Bulldogs bite in Tomorrow's Telegraph up

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Speaker 3: If Ivan Cleary can win the premiership this year, he's

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Speaker 5: Why don't you ever throw the Saint George going there

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Speaker 9: Because there were four in that era, not one.

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Speaker 4: You throw all four in that.

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Speaker 2: Get that.

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Speaker 4: But if you are St.

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Speaker 4: They would be forced out.

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Speaker 3: But what this bloke's done and the players that he's

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Speaker 1: That, because like every week we talk about how shoe

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Speaker 2: I was going for five in a row.

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Speaker 3: In the mind they're doing as a club and as

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Speaker 4: Extra premiership, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: But I still don't like to take away from what

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Speaker 4: But to say that others might have gone.

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Speaker 4: I truly believe that.

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Speaker 3: is in rugby league history.

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Speaker 4: God, there's been some great coaches all right.

444
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Speaker 1: Bulldogs General manager of football Phil Gorder has hit out

445
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Speaker 1: at criticism of their mid year changes after the club

446
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Speaker 1: bounced out of the finals.

447
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Speaker 2: In straight sets.

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Speaker 10: We made a decision that we wanted him in our

449
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Speaker 10: club and that's.

450
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Speaker 4: What we did.

451
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Speaker 10: It's led to this media barrage and a lot of

452
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Speaker 10: it has been childish and extremely unfair. This boy was

453
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Speaker 10: outstanding yesterday in a badly beaten side of that. He

454
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Speaker 10: really showed his class. He's the real player of the

455
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Speaker 10: future and that's what we're boarding for. The player is

456
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Speaker 10: going to be, not the player is at the moment.

457
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Speaker 10: He's never played half back before. He's never played half

458
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Speaker 10: back in any junior football whatsoever. So it was a

459
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Speaker 10: big answer on him and I think he's done in

460
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Speaker 10: our standing job. Every decision that was made in there

461
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Speaker 10: was made by people who deal with these players every day,

462
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Speaker 10: who coach them every day, who know the players fly well.

463
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Speaker 10: And I trust the people that deal with them all

464
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Speaker 10: day every day, not the people that take pot shots

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Speaker 10: from the media. They don't have any influence over what

466
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Speaker 10: we do, obviously not.

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Speaker 1: Fiel Good lashes criticism of Galvin as childish, not the

468
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Speaker 1: first said it was immediate, blames a soft draw and

469
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Speaker 1: says that Galvin has never played seven before ever, yet

470
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Speaker 1: paid big money to get him to the club to

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Speaker 1: play seven while they're coming first.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't that that they got it wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's explain that to me because that sounds to me

474
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Speaker 1: like a huge contradiction.

475
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Speaker 3: So he's just conceded that he'd never played halfback, never, never,

476
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Speaker 3: in any course of his career. Yet they brought him

477
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Speaker 3: in mid season when the team was on top of

478
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Speaker 3: the ladder to play halfback, So you can't.

479
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Speaker 4: Use as an excuse now.

480
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Speaker 3: And then on the weekend when he shifts back to

481
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Speaker 3: five to eight and the previous week Galvin finds he

482
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Speaker 3: finds his rhythm again. Like Gus is kidding himself on that,

483
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Speaker 3: like he's trying to spin his way.

484
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Speaker 4: Out of the argument. But the fact of the matter

485
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Speaker 4: is this is the proof.

486
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Speaker 3: What Gus just said is the proof that they did

487
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Speaker 3: a job on themselves.

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Speaker 1: Have your opinion, Gus, you know, come out and put

489
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Speaker 1: your case forward, but to sort of take your potshot

490
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Speaker 1: of everyone who's having their opinion on the situation, the

491
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Speaker 1: way that they went out in straight sets and act.

492
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Speaker 2: Like we've been talking shit.

493
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Speaker 1: Come on, buddy, No, no, the reason, the reason why

494
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Speaker 1: is the respect.

495
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Speaker 7: I've got so much respect for Gus. I'll start by

496
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Speaker 7: saying that he's one of the smartest brains. When he

497
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Speaker 7: said he's the best kid he's ever seen, the Rugby

498
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Speaker 7: League guys turned to him, and then the kid on

499
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Speaker 7: triple and goes, oh, mate, who cares about the noise

500
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Speaker 7: taking orders? Well, hold on, you generated a bit of

501
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Speaker 7: it by the way you acted when you left. And

502
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Speaker 7: Gus by saying that, by saying that, because I had

503
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Speaker 7: when Gus Tom was a bench player that around my

504
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Speaker 7: neck for like five years to have.

505
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Speaker 4: A great story. So no, no, yes, that was just yeah.

506
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Speaker 7: So when Gus like that made heavy on me, right,

507
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Speaker 7: so to say so the flipp it, right, but that

508
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Speaker 7: was motivation for me. But the flipp it and say

509
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Speaker 7: that you're the greatest, the greatest kid that he's ever seen.

510
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Speaker 7: And he's been what in the game for fifty years.

511
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Speaker 3: And undearth's some great players and watch Laurie Daly and

512
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Speaker 3: Sunny Bill Williams and these guys come through, and I'm

513
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Speaker 3: sure there's others, right, Yeah, Gus two makes a living

514
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Speaker 3: out of being in the media offering opinions. So it's

515
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Speaker 3: a tad rich to bag other members of the media.

516
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Speaker 3: But I think it's important to you guys that we

517
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Speaker 3: heard from Cameron Serrello yesterday sorry on Sunday, saying that

518
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Speaker 3: the criticism.

519
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Speaker 4: Of Galvin or the scrutiny was crap.

520
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Speaker 3: And now we've got Gusts saying it's childish, it's a

521
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Speaker 3: smother because they got rolled by forty six points, and maybe,

522
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Speaker 3: just maybe those two should look in the mirror and

523
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Speaker 3: look internally as to what went wrong rather than trying

524
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Speaker 3: to shift the blame out onto the leaking.

525
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Speaker 1: We all get it wrong, all of us of us

526
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: get it wrong every everything, whatever, a few times a year, whatever, whatever,

527
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Speaker 1: We all get it wrong.

528
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Speaker 2: And all of us apart from read he admitting we

529
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Speaker 2: get it wrong.

530
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Speaker 1: But you know, it's like Gus has got it wrong

531
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Speaker 1: lots of times in the past, and he will get

532
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Speaker 1: it wrong more moving forward.

533
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Speaker 2: It's okay to admit it.

534
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Speaker 1: It's okay to say, yeah, we made a mistake, we

535
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Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have went that way or the other decisions.

536
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Speaker 2: Don't they I've.

537
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Speaker 4: Got some bad news for him though.

538
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Speaker 3: This just continues now into next season because he also

539
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Speaker 3: said that Mitchell Woods will be the seven next year,

540
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Speaker 3: which means obviously Galvin becomes the six, which leaves Matt

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Speaker 3: Burton in the centers.

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Speaker 4: And how does Matt Burton feel about that going forward?

543
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like it?

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Speaker 3: It continues to be the story and they've created it,

545
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Speaker 3: not us, as you said, Gordon Guss created this with

546
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Speaker 3: his initial column. Cameron Sialdo backed it up by changing

547
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Speaker 3: his team around and then now after what.

548
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Speaker 4: They've endured this season, they go back to square one.

549
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Speaker 1: We did get an admission though that he's not a

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Speaker 1: half back. So finally, you know, Guss has admitted he's

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Speaker 1: not a half back.

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Speaker 3: He might be a thirteen the kid Braith's rot, he's

553
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Speaker 3: not a halfback and Guss has come out and clearly

554
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Speaker 3: said it. Then why was he picked halfway through the

555
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Speaker 3: year in the position he hasn't played before, in a

556
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Speaker 3: side that's leading the competition and surging into the finals.

557
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Speaker 3: And why did they get rid of the seven and

558
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 3: got rid of the blake who had done a very

559
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Speaker 3: professional job.

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Speaker 1: They think he was they could turn him into a halfback.

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Speaker 1: They think that he was a half back and they

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Speaker 1: got it wrong quite.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone ever, I don't think anyone ever

564
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Speaker 3: really had to go at Lachland Galvin's talent. And we've

565
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Speaker 3: all realized he's a twenty year old guy out there

566
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Speaker 3: doing his absolute best and whether it's by his design

567
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Speaker 3: or as many as a design or the Bulldogs, he's

568
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Speaker 3: been thrown into a very difficult situation and what he's

569
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Speaker 3: done has been incredibly brave.

570
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Speaker 4: Just however we've.

571
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Speaker 1: Turned it into the people are criticizing him personally and

572
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Speaker 1: him as a player, no no where, critiquing him as

573
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Speaker 1: a halfback and why the Bulldogs made that decision And

574
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Speaker 1: it's not about Lochlin Galvin for us exactly. And that's

575
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Speaker 1: what see Gus is trying to swing the conversation to

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Speaker 1: get a little bit of sympathy for Galvin and take

577
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Speaker 1: the focus away from the fact that he and Siroaldo

578
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Speaker 1: have led this campaign to sabotage their own season. And

579
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Speaker 1: yet you listen to Cameron after that game and he

580
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: just won't admit it, mate, He will not admit it

581
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Speaker 1: until he's blue in the face. Despite the fact so

582
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Speaker 1: many and not just the old journos, so many really

583
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Speaker 1: great judges like yourselves and all the people around the

584
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Speaker 1: game are sit there and asking the same questions. I

585
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Speaker 1: want to go about to Burton because this is an

586
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Speaker 1: interesting one. If Woods does play seven, which is expected

587
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Speaker 1: Galvin six, where does that leave Matt Burton? You've got Crime,

588
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: You've got Sherry kind of Tracey?

589
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Speaker 2: Is he the four guys?

590
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Speaker 1: Do they put Crichton or Burden at full back? Do

591
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Speaker 1: they test that out? Where does that lead leave Matt Burton?

592
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Speaker 1: There has been rumors around Perth Bears not too sure how.

593
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Speaker 4: Cowboys is that right?

594
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Speaker 1: You've heard that as well, rumors? But is he a

595
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Speaker 1: chance of being moved on or leaving or just changing

596
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Speaker 1: positions or what.

597
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Speaker 3: I haven't made official calls on it, but certainly there's

598
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Speaker 3: a lot of speculation around that.

599
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Speaker 9: I think he might get moved on at some point

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Speaker 9: in the next year.

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Speaker 4: I think so.

602
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Speaker 5: So was that a mistake then what they made.

603
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Speaker 4: In signing him or in playing him in the centers?

604
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Speaker 5: But didn't they buy him to play five?

605
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Speaker 6: Eight?

606
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Speaker 1: Bon was one of the best places at center, So no, no,

607
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the dogs.

608
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Speaker 5: Didn't they buy him to fix the joint?

609
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Speaker 4: We gave back?

610
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Speaker 3: Melvin is a really, really exciting talent okay, and as

611
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Speaker 3: a five eight even more exciting than a half back.

612
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Speaker 3: But is he a better fight than Matt Burton at

613
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: this stage? Like he's kicking game. His kicking game is

614
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: not ready to take over from Matt Burton. It's just

615
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: not we saw on the weekend. You know, he has

616
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Speaker 3: not got the kicking game to be a lead at

617
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Speaker 3: that level.

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Speaker 4: Burton is the bloke.

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Speaker 3: If the Bulldogs are going to return to their best

620
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Speaker 3: next year, surely Matt Burton is the five eight.

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Speaker 4: But it doesn't sound like a will.

622
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Speaker 1: But they've just got a couple of pieces of the

623
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Speaker 1: puzzle to fix there that've got more complicated now as

624
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: this year's unfolded, because we know they're going to be

625
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: there again. I'm confidently going to be top four again

626
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: because they've got the team to do that also, you know,

627
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Speaker 1: but it's like, what do they do? Do they put

628
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Speaker 1: Crichton at fullback? I wouldn't move Crichton. I think he's

629
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Speaker 1: the best center in the game. I just actually said

630
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Speaker 1: earlier I wouldn't mind seeing Burton at fullback because I

631
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Speaker 1: see him like Latrell Mitchell in a and with Burton,

632
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Speaker 1: he's not a game organizer so get him on the ball.

633
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Speaker 4: You want to run the boys.

634
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Speaker 1: His big body, any support plays on the board, more

635
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: more touches. He can still kick effective from full back.

636
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Speaker 1: The way that he has it just brings him into

637
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Speaker 1: the game. I don't know if it's an option, but.

638
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: It's a good option. Caraz at fullback an option.

639
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: That's an option too.

640
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Speaker 4: But do you put silkie skills? Hasn't he Yeah?

641
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Speaker 2: He does?

642
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: I think I think furthermore, you know, without to get

643
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: bogged down with this either, but if Mitchell Woods is

644
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: the guy to come in and play seven next year

645
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: having not played NRL, how many halfbacks do you see

646
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Speaker 3: go through in their rookie season in the entire season

647
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Speaker 3: and be able to stay at the top level and

648
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Speaker 3: then peak for the finals?

649
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like that, there's another one there.

650
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Speaker 5: Gus said last night they got tired at the end.

651
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Speaker 7: If you got two rookie half you'd imagine with the

652
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Speaker 7: pressure that they'd be under that by the end of

653
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Speaker 7: the year, they they might feel the same time.

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Speaker 9: Quod question for you both Bulldog's legend.

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Speaker 3: Is the season in hindsight disappointing, a failure or did

656
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Speaker 3: they overachieve?

657
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't any of them.

658
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Speaker 1: They didn't fail. I thought it was a successful year.

659
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Speaker 1: Could have been a hell of a lot better with

660
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Speaker 1: a terrible ending. Really, you know, That's how I sum

661
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Speaker 1: it up.

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Speaker 2: I stick around journals.

663
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Speaker 1: On Friday the Ryder Cup against the US take on Europe,

664
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Speaker 1: and you can catch all the action from nine pm

665
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Speaker 1: on Channel five A through