1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: It's it fits in with her with Kate Wiki podcast. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: It's got an entry for worst Bloke of the Year. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Always great when these come through where you just can't 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: believe how one blog's handled himself. A while ago, we 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: were talking about the athlete I think at the last Olympics, 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: not Paris, the one prior and his wife stood down 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: from her event so he could focus on his event, 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: and he then took off with her sailing partner. He 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: got Worse Bloke of the Year. That was four years ago. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident in this new entry for twenty twenty four. 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to what this guy's done. 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: We all find out that we're pregnant, me, my little sister, 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: and my best friend. We all find out what we're 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: pregnant like within a week and a half of each other. 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: Our due dates are all in the same week. My 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: little sister says it's her boyfriend's baby. My best friend 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: says it's like her booty calls baby. Okay, we're doing 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: everything together and we are planning a baby shower. I'm like, okay, well, 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: let's invite the baby daddy's My sister's boyfriend tells her 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: that he wants a DNA test because, surprise, surprise, he 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: was out of town and my best friend's booty call 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: says that he wants a DNA test. Turns out neither 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: of those guys are the father, so I'm like, well, 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: who else could it be? So we're there with our 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: whole family. I walk into the laundry room. There's my 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: husband making out with my best friend. I'm like, what's 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: going on here? Of course they come out and tell 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: me that the baby's his and blah blah blah blah blah. 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: And then my sister walks in behind me and goes, 30 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: what the hell's going on in here? 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: You and I are having a baby together? Who excuse me? 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, he's been bc. 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: All revealed at the one barbecue sister, her and the 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 2: best friend. 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 5: Why would he even go to the baby shower? And 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 5: you if if he knew that he had got them all, 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 5: all three of them pregnant. 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: And it sounds like he's been a busy, busy boy 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: in that they're all due around the same time, almost 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: like he's chosen one week to fill his calendar. What ah, 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: my card? 42 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: Well do you know I suppose the only saving grace 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 5: that you have there is you know that he's going 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 5: to be a very busy boy in nine months time. 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: He is financially he's going to be very busy and 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: running from one room at the hospital to the next. Guys, 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: I organized it so you could have your kids grow 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: up together. I'm a good guy. O my god. Four 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: worst bloke entry. Congratulations mate. This is the. 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: Fitzian Wibber with Cape Ritchie podcast. 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 5: We've been talking about this quite a bit lately about 52 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 5: when you know someone in your friendship group who might 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: be quite promiscuous and doing the wrong thing. Well, you 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 5: know the conversation that we've been having that if it's 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 5: your friend, yep, you usually are on their side and 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: you'll say to them, look, we know what's going on, 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 5: stop doing it, or else we're going to have to 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 5: tell your partner. Or if it's the other way right, 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 5: if you know that their partner is doing it, you 60 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 5: go straight to your friend and you tell them straight up, well. 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: If you want to get involved, not everyone does do that? 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 6: Do that? 63 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: So okay, so this is this has happened within our 64 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: friendship growp. Well it's got to do with Berner phones. 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: So it was. 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: James, so burner phone. 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 7: The definition of what a berna phone is. It's the 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 7: second it's your other phone. The other can just burn 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 7: one day. 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: So pretty much this is a made of a mate 71 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: he has been. 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: His wife has found an extra phone in the house. 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: Where did BJ find it? 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 5: So he's like, She's like, okay, what's this phone got 75 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: to do with anything? 76 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 4: He's freaked out. 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: Instantly said it's my work phone, because he does travel 78 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: quite a bit for work. She said, okay, well, before 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: I presented this berna phone to you, I've gone through 80 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 5: this phone and the only conversations that you're having in 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: there are with different women. 82 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: I've also trapped where you've been for. 83 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 5: Work over the last month, and it seems to me 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: that you have a different woman in every place that 85 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 5: you visit for work. 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: How are you getting out of this one? 87 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: Now? 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 5: It's getting to the point where he's like freaking out, 89 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 5: she said, I want to I want out. 90 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 4: I done. 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 5: The friendship group have sort of known about this for 92 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 5: a while, and this is why I brought it up before. 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: Is that, like, what side do you take? 94 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 5: Everyone knows that he's been doing this for a while, 95 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 5: and she's the last to unfortunately find out he's now gone. Well, 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 5: I've been booted out of the home. Can I come 97 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 5: and stay with you? Guys and now friends are going No, mate, sorry, 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 5: we're gonna have to side with your wife. 99 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 4: Do you know what? 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: I think the most important thing in this situation is 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: to know that something obviously led to that. There's obviously 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: a clear breakdown. So if it was a made of mine. 103 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: Hang on a second pound. 104 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so hang on. 105 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: So you're saying. 106 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: Something wrong with a relationship. 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: So there's a reason, there's a reason why he's. 108 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: Done for an extended period of time. 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 8: Yeah. 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 2: If that was my mate, I would think to myself, Okay, 111 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: there's something's gone wrong. 112 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: It might be a. 113 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 7: Reason, but it might but it might also just be 114 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 7: a pattern of behavior. Possible, it might be a bit 115 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 7: characteristic of that. 116 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: Person, of the individual. So I would say, mate, you 117 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: can start my place. Let's have a chat about what's 118 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: happened to here, because there's something's gone wrong because you 119 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: were completely in love with your wife and she was 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: in love with you, So how have you led to 121 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: this behavior? 122 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 7: I actually think that's very considerate of you, But I 123 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 7: also think that it can it's not all dogs came. 124 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 7: I'm not saying that, But what I am saying is 125 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 7: that this conversation could be airring on the side of 126 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 7: trying to find a reason to blame her for his behavior. 127 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: There's no for cheating, and you can't say that there's 128 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: been a relationship problem for you to go and cheat. 129 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: But there's never an exclus there might be a reason. 130 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: It might be a reason. 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: Does that help with the No, it doesn't help the 132 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: out doesn't, But at least it might be a conversation 133 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 5: worth having with your mate instead of you can't stay here. 134 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, You need a human side to this. 135 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 7: Absolutely, he is also a person going through something. 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: You've got to be wary of someone with an extra phone, 137 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: burner phones, people who walk around with extra phones. Look, 138 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: I don't care technology these days. You don't need two phones, can't. 139 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: You don't need a work phone and you don't need 140 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 5: a personal phone. 141 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Some people do. 142 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 5: It must be a horrible feeling, though, when you are 143 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 5: in a relationship with someone and you find an extra phone, 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: because then your first thought is do I go through 145 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 5: do I confront them? 146 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: Do I what do I do? 147 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: How do I open this can of rooms? 148 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: Why would somebody have a second phone? What did you 149 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: find out when you realized they did. 150 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 5: Meil knows a lot about a burn a phone, Tell 151 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: us about it, Meil, Yeah, I. 152 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 9: Found out that my partner of seven years was using 153 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 9: his work phone as a burner phone. And you know, 154 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 9: typical trade calls a lot of builders. But I thought, oh, 155 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 9: you're calling this builder and awful lot. It just didn't 156 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 9: seem right. So went on his Google timeline and could 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 9: see every single time that he was at a certain address, 158 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 9: and I knew whose address it was. I didn't really 159 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 9: know her, but I knew of her. So for the 160 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 9: last two years of our seven year relationship, he was 161 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 9: leaving work early, you know, not picking up our son 162 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 9: on time from daycare, and then proceeded to tell me that, oh, 163 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 9: it was nothing physical, thinking, buddy, you don't go to 164 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 9: someone's house at three am for a chat. 165 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, you don't quite right. What's what happened? Mel? 166 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 9: So I was like, you know, I loved him that much, 167 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 9: but I was like, you know, we can fix this, 168 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 9: let's go to counseling. And he's like, nup, can't do it. 169 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 9: And that was it. Seven years of my life down 170 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 9: the drain. 171 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: And how old is your son? Mel? 172 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 9: He is six years old, ever since he was you 173 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 9: know Abe, and. 174 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: Then Mel, what is he is he with the other girl? 175 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 9: Now I have no idea like I don't speak to 176 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 9: him at all. And I think for women out there 177 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 9: as a mental health thing, if you think that someone 178 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 9: is toxic for you, just don't do it. 179 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 10: Don't do it. 180 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing great words of advice. 181 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Mel, you look after yourself and your beautiful son. 182 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: Here's the story we've been waiting for, Charlotte. What happened 183 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: good morning? 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 6: I had dropped my phone or broke my phone or 185 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 6: lost my phone, and I asked my family who had 186 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 6: a fair phone. My sister in law had said, oh, 187 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 6: I've got a stair phone. 188 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 8: I'll let you have this phone. So she gave me 189 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 8: the phone willingly. And so the next day I popped 190 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 8: my SIM card in or opened up the phone, and 191 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 8: the first message that you know those old phones, that 192 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 8: it came up with a message. At first mine said 193 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 8: good morning, hers said I love cock. And that was 194 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 8: the first wow moment. And then I kept looking through 195 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 8: this phone because it was still messages. So I had 196 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 8: to look through and there were messages in there from 197 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 8: maybe up to five different men so having a look 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 8: through there, reading all the messages, thinking, oh my gosh, 199 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 8: this woman is married to my brother. 200 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: What well I got. 201 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 8: Down to Yeah, it gets worse when I got down 202 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 8: to another message. I kept reading it. Looked at the 203 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 8: phone but it was my current partner in law what 204 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 8: I know? 205 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: And and your husband. 206 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 8: It wasn't my husband, it was my partner, so we 207 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 8: weren't married. 208 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 6: But the time in which she was talking to him, 209 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 6: and this was all happening my brother, her. 210 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 8: Husband was in hospital with cancer. 211 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 5: So just. 212 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 8: And so yeah, needless to say, she's now my ex 213 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 8: sister in law. It was horrific. 214 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: That is extraordinary. What did you do? 215 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: Well? 216 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 8: I have three people to talk to, my sister in law, 217 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 8: my brother, and my partner. I started with my brother 218 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 8: and said, look, this is what it is, and he's like, no, no, no, 219 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 8: that's not her phone. I've never seen this phone before. 220 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 8: And I had to explain that she gave me the phone. 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 8: You saw her give me the phone phone and she 222 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 8: gave me There's no way I could have made that 223 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 8: up because it's it's in part in the past, so 224 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 8: it's not like I could mess each other people. 225 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: Who did you speak to you? Next when and then 226 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: you and your brother? Who did you go to the Why? 227 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 8: I went to my partner first because I was like, 228 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 8: you're not You're not getting away from this, You're not escaping. 229 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 8: This is no way. So needless to say, the next 230 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 8: partner as well, So that's great. And then it was 231 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 8: the sister in law. But I made sure I did 232 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 8: that in front of the whole family. My partner and 233 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 8: my brother's wife were there and my whole family, just 234 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 8: so everyone understood the situation. 235 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: So you and dad were there. 236 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 8: Absolutely, just to. 237 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 5: Classify that as a third degree burner, that's the harshest 238 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: of burns wild. 239 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: We're going to need to digest that the fit and 240 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: with a with Kate, WHICHI podcast get involved. 241 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 7: Guys, if your parenting style is to lie to your 242 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 7: children to get them to do things that you want them. 243 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: Isn't that Is that a style or is that just 244 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: being a parent? 245 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Look, I don't think every parent does it. 246 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Some people don't lie. I've heard about those families with 247 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: the parents have made the commitment to each other as 248 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: parents that we simply will not lie. 249 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 7: So when a child asks anything, regardless of what it is, 250 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 7: and I won't talk about the thing that I'm talking 251 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 7: about in my head. 252 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: There's a few things throughout the year. 253 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Let just be very honest about it. Well, I don't. 254 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 7: Agree with neither do I. I actually don't agree with that, 255 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 7: but I don't mind this story. I think you may 256 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 7: have done it in your house. We don't know about you, Fitzy, 257 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 7: but get involved if you've done something like it. Thurning 258 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 7: twenty fourteen. It comes from the UK and it's about 259 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 7: a footballer. And now that I'm playing for the men 260 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 7: I Hawks on Saturday, every story I bring to the 261 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 7: show now will be somehow related to football. There's a 262 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 7: guy that plays for Carlile United. He and his wife 263 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 7: Lovely Abbey. They have two children who are five and three, 264 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 7: and he's away a lot, I would imagine traveling. 265 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: With the team, and so as. 266 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 7: Far as their birthdays go, they have decided very early 267 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 7: on in the kid's life span that they're not going 268 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 7: to celebrate the kid's birthdays on the day that the 269 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 7: children were born. They will just pick a date throughout 270 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 7: the year that suits them in the calendar and say 271 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 7: it's your birthday on Saturday. And because daddy's home, no 272 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 7: one is that the kids are none the wiser. But 273 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 7: it does mean that the family can be together to 274 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 7: celebrate and they're not calling dad on the bow. 275 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: So does it change every year they pick it early? 276 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Well, it changes. 277 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 7: I'm guessing the football schedule changes when they put out 278 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 7: the whatever it is they put out the schedule. 279 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: But if they want to, if they want the kids 280 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: to play footy, this is the thing. What under are 281 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: they in? What what's your actual birthday? 282 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: Well that's exactly right. 283 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 7: There is going to be a moment, like with any lie, 284 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 7: that it comes undone and people are going to start asking, 285 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 7: you know, what. 286 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Are your what's your star sign? 287 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 7: I mean, you can't go from being a cancer to 288 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 7: a leo in every year and have people think that 289 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 7: you're saying But. 290 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: A little bit awkward too when you as a birthday 291 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: party for your kid one year in February and the 292 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: next year you do it in September exactly. 293 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: And you have a pool party one year and the 294 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: next year you're off to the snow his. 295 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: Birthday was in February. Oh, we just sit down and 296 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: make it up each year, depending on what fits into 297 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: our schedule. 298 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: Maybe when they're younger. 299 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 7: It's it does It's harmless isn't it. And I think 300 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 7: the parents say that they haven't come up against too 301 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 7: much backlash because they're actually doing it so that the 302 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 7: kids can have the family together, and they see that 303 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 7: it can also be the desirable outcome for a birthday. 304 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: We had a bit of an issue last night, and 305 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into details, but I just 306 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: wanted to throw a bit of a message out there 307 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: for parents. We all need to be on board with 308 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: the consistency of lying of lying or or the world 309 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: that we live in and the fantasies that can be 310 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: created at certain views of the year because some kids 311 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: go to school and say, well, my parents told my 312 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: mum told me this, and then obviously that can spread 313 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: and then questions are asked. 314 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Very nervous I am about it. 315 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: You finally invited over the biological father of the kids, 316 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: which is great. 317 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: This is the thing. He thought it was better for 318 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: the family. But eventually the kids are going. 319 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: To find out it was Gary was a taxi driver. 320 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: He was on naked attraction. 321 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: You've done it for the birthday, though, haven't you. 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: What lied about the birthday? 323 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 7: Have you lied about the birthday or just put the 324 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 7: party at another time of year. 325 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: Jack's party is still coming. I mean his birthday was 326 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: in June, but we're organizing that soon. Yeah, because it's 327 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: turned into a little bit of we've got to do 328 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: that soon. 329 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I think some of the lies are funny, where you say, 330 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: if you pick your nose, your finger will fall off. 331 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 7: We had an uncle Maury who had half a finger, 332 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: and I don't know his lies changed because sometimes he 333 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: lost his finger because he picked his nose and he 334 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 7: got it right up to the knuckle. And then the 335 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 7: other story was that the tiger over the side fence 336 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 7: bit it off, right, So. 337 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: Double lie, yeah, but pick a lie backing lies. 338 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: Big one that Met Fitzgerald did to Holly and I 339 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 5: for years was we had a local water park, water 340 00:15:59,400 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: slide park. 341 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: It was called splash Down. 342 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: It only had two slides, the Screamer and the Orbiter. 343 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: A right, but a dad convinced us that this is 344 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: wet and wild, that you're going to wet and what because. 345 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: And wild it was? It wild was so it was lying. 346 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 5: You would see that everyone knew that wett and wild 347 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: was on the Gold Coast. But dad convinced us that 348 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 5: every week you are so lucky as kids that you 349 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 5: get to go to wet and wild, right, But then 350 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: I would go to school and go, yeah, we went 351 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: wet wild again on the weekend, and kids would go, 352 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: how do you afford going up to the Gold Coast 353 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 5: every weekend? 354 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Stop lying? What about? 355 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: When you did lie? My dad would say I know 356 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: you're lying and threaten on your forehead and I'd run 357 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: off to the bathroom to see in the mirror is 358 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: it written on my forehead? And I do that now 359 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: with my kids At DNB, he wasnt lie. 360 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 7: He tattooed, let's go to Stephen ridle me. Steve, are 361 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 7: you lying to your children? 362 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Does it work. 363 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 11: About certain things? 364 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 9: Kate? 365 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 11: I would say, yes, they do believe it at a 366 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 11: certain age. I've got a couple of stories. One was 367 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 11: my sister in law. She would tell her kids that 368 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 11: chocolate soft drink chips would be so bad to you 369 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 11: that your teeth would fall out, so her kids would 370 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 11: never ever have any, and if they went to parties, 371 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 11: they would always decline on the lolly and thinking these 372 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 11: other kids. 373 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: Were crazygiety attack. 374 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 11: Also, when I used to play football, I would get 375 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 11: banged up quite a bit and would tell the kids 376 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 11: that it was a shark attack. Because I didn't like 377 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 11: the beach, so then we would never go, just to 378 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 11: say out of the sun. My tasty white skin couldn't 379 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 11: handle it. 380 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: Oh, Steve the fits Whipper with Cape Ridgie podcast. 381 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 7: We're talking about the out of lying and whether you 382 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 7: use it as far as your parenting style goes in 383 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 7: your house. Maybe you tell your kids their birthday falls 384 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 7: on a different day every year. 385 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: A couple of porcupies, so it. 386 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 7: Suits your schedule. It can backfire though, as they get older. 387 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 7: Jessica and Marsden Park, good morning. 388 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: Are your lives working. 389 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 5: Well so far? 390 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 9: We'll wait and see you in a couple of years. 391 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 11: But we ally is that you get tummy aches and 392 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 11: you start vomiting if you have too much first day cake. 393 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: Yep, well that can happen, can Yeah? 394 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: You sort of you sort of want your kids to 395 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 5: get crookoff lollies at some stage, don't you, Because I 396 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: mean I remember eating the Australian. 397 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: Equivalent of oreos. Do you know what they were called? 398 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 4: The Delta creams? 399 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: To remember Delta creams. 400 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I knocked off a whole packet of Delta cremes. 401 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 5: Have not been able to touch one since. 402 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: Is that interesting? Like when I did fourteen Mars bars 403 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: that Christmas Day? 404 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: Did you really little mini ones? 405 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 7: Or they weren't no fun about those sizes? 406 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: Only a year ago as well, which was quite so. 407 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 7: Good morning, Kim in box Hell. What lie do you 408 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 7: tell your kids? 409 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 9: I used to tell them that the remote, the alarm 410 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 9: centered in the corner room was there and watching them 411 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 9: when it was reda. 412 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 7: It is so scary though, doesn't make you like hyper 413 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 7: vigilant and kind of oh my god, the little red 414 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 7: light comes on. 415 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: NaN's what? 416 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jess, thank you. 417 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 5: Jess in Penrith. What's the lie that you've been telling 418 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 5: your kids? 419 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: Jess? 420 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 8: I was telling my daughter that when she lies her 421 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 8: nose clothes red sod why I should. 422 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 11: Cover her notes to be like my nose throwing reds 423 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 11: And then. 424 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 7: She was ready before really very cute. 425 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I hope you write those things down. 426 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: Not bad. 427 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: That is not bad, because then they can't see what 428 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 5: color the noses going see. 429 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 7: Some young people though, do or even adults do when 430 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 7: they lie, they go in red. Do you know those 431 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 7: people that get that rash on the. 432 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: I thank you covering I like my jumper. Adam in Avalon, Good. 433 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 10: Morning, Adam, good morning, Kate and teen. How are we 434 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 10: very well? I'm a little embarrassed to be telling you 435 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 10: this but or admitting to it even But when when 436 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 10: my kids were little, we actually told them that Christmas 437 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 10: was a week later, and we told them that reason 438 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 10: so we could go and get everything cheap at the 439 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 10: boxing tails. Yes, and just you know, get everything cheap 440 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 10: and the boy the mad rush. 441 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 7: You can't do that these days, like with social media 442 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 7: and the news and TV, like people know what's going 443 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 7: on out there in the world. 444 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: You can't keep them in the house. 445 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: So the countdown to the morning, like the news is 446 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: running footage of Santra and the raindeer is going through 447 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: the sky. 448 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: Off five years of their life that have no idea 449 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 5: after that. You're probably struggling. 450 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: That's okay, Adam. I'm sure you did lots of other 451 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: lovely parenting. 452 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: There probably not a couple of Mary's for there. 453 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 4: This is the Fitting and Whip with Kate Richie podcast. 454 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: Let's talk allergies. 455 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you've got another weekend? 456 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: Can I just that's a standing ovation for Snitchy. 457 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: Because you know what a great song he gets my 458 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 5: emails and I and I without a doubt that he sized. 459 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 5: And my gosh, but the rolling stones Angie to turn 460 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: that into allergies world, don't, mate, your a. 461 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: Legend, snitchy. You can head off now, mate. 462 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 4: So Beja and I went to a cafe over the weekend. 463 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: We love having bread, leaving the kids at home, getting 464 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: away and that's we don't really do dinners. 465 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: We'll have a good breakfast Kate, you know what I mean. 466 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: That's a good way to start the day time together, 467 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: catch up. 468 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: Smashed over, mate. 469 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 5: So we're sitting next to a family, right, two young 470 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 5: kids there, and that's the reason why we leave the 471 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: kids at home because there's these kids were fighting the 472 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: whole time. And there was this moment where I looked 473 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: over and one of the kids started getting welts on 474 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 5: his face. No right, and he's had an allergic reaction. 475 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I can see it 476 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 5: like his face was starting to swell a little bit 477 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 5: and he was saying to his mom, Mum, it's starting 478 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: to burn. She goes, it's okay, We've been through this before. 479 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 5: I'm listening to this conversation, going what And then there 480 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: was a moment there where I could see he was 481 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 5: quite uncomfortable. 482 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: And I said to the mother. 483 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 5: They say okay, and she said, she goes, he loves 484 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: the Benoffi milkshake right which which is caramel banana and 485 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 5: those Biscoff biscuits. But she said, he's allergic to the 486 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 5: Biscoff biscuits. But he loves the milkshake so much that 487 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 5: every now and then we run the gauntlet and we 488 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: let him have one, and he understands what he's about 489 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 5: to go. 490 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Through, but he loves it, loves the milkshake more. 491 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: But he tolerates the pain. And she looks at me 492 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 4: and she whispers and she goes. 493 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 5: It's the only time he can tolerate pain, because every 494 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 5: other time he cries. But when he knows he's getting 495 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 5: a Banoffy milkshake risk for the biscuit, he'll put up. 496 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 5: He'll put up with the burning that goes through his 497 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 5: face just to deal with that beautiful caramel banana and 498 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 5: Biscoff biscuit. 499 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: It must be, it must be amazed. 500 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: I think that's what every overweight person deals with on 501 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: a daily basis. What do you mean? I love you 502 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: so much, but you're bad for me. It's this love 503 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: hate where I look in the freezer and I see 504 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: that tub of ice cream, and I will I go 505 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: through a week of hating myself. But you're not allude 506 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: to satistics. It's the same thing. 507 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: It's not really. 508 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 7: Do you remember if it's allergic to dairy or something, 509 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 7: it would be the same thing. 510 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: Remember we were in the Quantus Club that time. Fits. 511 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: We're about to get on a long haul flight and 512 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: my stomach was terrible, and I knew that it had 513 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: been abused for a week in la I said, I 514 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: can't do it, Fits, I can't get me a beef burger. 515 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: I had the beef burger, and I knew it would 516 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: have a bad reaction, but I had to have that 517 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: beef burger. Do you know what? We nearly missed the flight. 518 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: I was on the old for a good hour or so. 519 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 5: And we're very, very lucky with our job, and Quantous 520 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: over the years is looked after it. So when we 521 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 5: go over cas right, we're lucky to get into the 522 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 5: first class lounge. Right for anyone that hasn't been in there. 523 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 5: I walk in there and go, oh my god, this 524 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: is like a it's late. It's a restaurant and they 525 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 5: give you a menu, so you sit down and you 526 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 5: can order it. This is where they make mistakes because 527 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 5: they say, yeah, you can order whatever you want, as 528 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: much as you want. It's basically all you can eat, 529 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 5: which is a stupid move to say to a man 530 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 5: like Michael Whipfley. So what he does, Kate? 531 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 4: He eats so much in the first class lounge. 532 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: And then Tommy does it. He gets his glasses champagne 533 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 5: and goes, buddy, he's to you. You know, we did it, 534 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 5: We've got there. Then Kate forgets that when you get 535 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 5: on a plane an hour after take off, they serve 536 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 5: your meals, start feeding you. 537 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 7: How early do you get to the airport to make 538 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 7: the most of the lounge as soon as the lounge 539 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 7: is open. 540 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 4: And then he goes, well, I can't just leave this 541 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: meal that they've given me. 542 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: You get that as well, don't you just get on 543 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: and go? 544 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 545 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: But then I'd had so much to eat and drink 546 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: by the time we ended in la and the only 547 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: room available the rest of the rooms weren't ready, was 548 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: Fizzy's and I had to go and put myself to bed, 549 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: and oh it wasn't too good. Do you know? 550 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 5: The sad thing is while we're waiting for the bags 551 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 5: at the LA airport. He goes up to the LA 552 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 5: first cast. 553 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: You with a with Kate, WHICHI podcast. Now, I want 554 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: to talk about hygiene this morning. 555 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: You've got a friend who has a hygiene issue. 556 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: What actually actually, let me start with the fact. 557 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 7: And I don't know if this has happened to anybody else, 558 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 7: but I do have a deodorant problem at the moment. 559 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 7: Because I'm not going to say which deodorants, right, but 560 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 7: I haven't used I use a roll on deodorant and 561 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 7: I've used this. 562 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: I love it. Where do you use it under a 563 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: lot of people use it more than just under their arms. 564 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 7: I do know some people who have put it under 565 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 7: their arms, under their busies if they are heavier on 566 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 7: the top. 567 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: So that's ariend of yours again. 568 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: No, not me, I'm not heard. I have not heard 569 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: for ages. 570 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, someone said it to me the other day. 571 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 4: I mean not to you know. 572 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: It was just whatever anyway. And so I've been using 573 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: the same. 574 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 7: Deodorant for like years and years, and I don't know 575 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 7: what has happened, but I've changed and it just doesn't work. 576 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 7: Is it that your body gets used to using a 577 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 7: particular I think a deodorant anyway. 578 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: That's by the bio. Like, that's not what I want 579 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: to talk about. 580 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 7: This is about the grossness of sharing things in the 581 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 7: house and maybe something you would never share, So give 582 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 7: us a call. Thirteen, twenty fourteen. Some people are weird 583 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 7: about the toothbrush. You shouldn't share toothbrushes with your partner, 584 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 7: for example. 585 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: Well you would with your family, with your wife or 586 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: your husband, you would it. 587 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 5: And the kids you let them use your toothbrush on 588 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 5: holidays sometimes, don't you. 589 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 7: Well, I think so if you've left it behind, because 590 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 7: they always get you at the airport, don't they if 591 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 7: you've forgotten your toothbrush. 592 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm a bit funny about the toothbrush. Why But then 593 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: Lisa is fine to use my toothbrush, and she will 594 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: if she needed to, But then she won't use her 595 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: towel if I have accidentally used it. What So, what's 596 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: wrong with sharing a towel? 597 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 7: Maybe because you're hairy, so when you use the towel, 598 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 7: your towel would be soaking. 599 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 4: He needs three towels, he does one for the back. 600 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 7: Anyway, we don't need to go through it. So this mother, 601 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 7: and maybe it's a sign of the times. She doesn't 602 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 7: want to spend a lot of money. Her husband is 603 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 7: disgusted because he's looking for his deodorant. 604 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: One morning, comes into the bathroom. She's in the shower. 605 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: Where's mighty odor And she said, like, I don't know 606 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: the kids room. He said, oh, that'd be right. 607 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 7: You know, little Bobby's probably stolen my deodorant again, and 608 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 7: why can't you buy him his own? And she said, well, 609 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 7: I'm not that's his deodorant as well. 610 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: He said, what do you mean. 611 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 7: She said, well, we've just been We all share our 612 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 7: role on deodorant, which I guess is different to the 613 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 7: spray because there's no contact with that. 614 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: But he he's like, just go and spend the money. 615 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 7: She said, it costs a fortune now, I've just been 616 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 7: googling it does well. A spray cans about ten bucks 617 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 7: and a roll on about three to four dollars if 618 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 7: you're not buying it at the airport. 619 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: Obviously, refuse to pay full price for deodorant. You wait 620 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 5: for half priced. There's always for one, police say it, 621 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 5: but then you've got it. You've got to always switch 622 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 5: them up, so you may get Dove one minute, then 623 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 5: you get your rex. 624 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: On a net. 625 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 4: I can't do that. 626 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: This is the thing I've got to stick. I've got 627 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: to stick with the same one. 628 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 7: I would rather use someone's toothbrush than their role on deodorant. 629 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't. I would because I brush in your mouth, well, 630 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: not you guys in your mouth. 631 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 7: But my partner, like a partner or yeah, so the mouth, 632 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 7: you don't. I'm fine with the mouth, but not with 633 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 7: the underarm. 634 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: So you're less concerned with the mouth and the underrup 635 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 5: that is, I'd be the other way around. 636 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: For some reason. 637 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 5: I would find the underarm a little bit weird because 638 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 5: I think of sweat. 639 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: See, I'm not fixed on one deoda and either because 640 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: I'll use my something sport, you know. But then I'll 641 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: use Lisa's thirty three sexy Boutique bouquet, which I think 642 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: she has at the moment. 643 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: She doesn't. 644 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 7: Lisa is never using anything called sexy bo Really, what 645 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 7: was the one you'd use? 646 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still on the shelves. 647 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: Actually I think it is. 648 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, And you go into like the gym, in the 649 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 7: gym and it it just it stinks worse than body odors. 650 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk great 651 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: shows like this. 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