1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to the fitz and Whipper podcast. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Really Eirish, Hey, what's up? 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: This is Billie Eilish. 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Really forty million records sold, seven Grammy Awards. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Thank you guys. 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: I'm the voice of a generation. All right. Dude, joins 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 3: Fitzy and Billy eilishd mate, how are you. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show? Thank you? 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: We would just have you on Tiger. 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: It was a really good champ. Fourth time or Strong? Yeah, wow, 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: the age of twenty already? 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you got three shows. It's going to 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: be unbelievable. 14 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Are you nervous? 15 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: Are you? 16 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 4: Like? 17 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's crazy that. I mean, you were 18 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: playing to five hundred people when you were sixteen, and 19 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: then a year later you're playing to like twenty thirty 20 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: thousand yea people critically, So I mean, this is this 21 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: must be cruising now, isn't it. 22 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: It's nuts. It's it's so sick like the show that 23 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: I get to do. 24 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I just did three in New 25 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: Zealand and like god, I just get up on the 26 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 4: stage and I'm just like I just have to like 27 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: every single show, it's never it never feels normal, and 28 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: every show I have to stand there for a second 29 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 4: and actually just look around the room and take it in. 30 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: And it's a crazy feeling. 31 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: And the best thing about you like to converse with 32 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: the crowd as well, So you have cocis, you get people, 33 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: you talk. 34 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Is that a big thing for you? It's got to 35 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: be that way to me. 36 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: I was saying this yesterday, like I really don't, I 37 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: really don't like the idea of. 38 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Doing a show, like doing a show for people. 39 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: I want I want them to be like with me 40 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 4: at the show, like doing the show with me, and 41 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 4: like the idea of of like I was saying, like I. 42 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Mean at this point yesterday, and I'm just gonna make 43 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: it again because it sounded good that, Like I if 44 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: there was a show that I. 45 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: Did and I come off stage and I wasn't happy 46 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: about it for whatever the reason was. 47 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: It's almost always. 48 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: That it felt like the crowd was there watching a 49 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 4: show and I was the show that they were watching 50 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: instead of wasn't integrated. 51 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: It was like it wasn't interactive. 52 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: Like that's what I want, is like the connection, and 53 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: like I want I want them to be doing as 54 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: much of the show as I'm doing. 55 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, but if. 56 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: You stop down and look at it and you go, oh, 57 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: maybe that show wasn't as good as I'd hoped, then 58 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: what are you suggesting may have happened? 59 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: I think that it just is like I have these 60 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: these wants and needs for my own like. 61 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Like I want I want the crowd to be like. 62 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: You know when it feels right? 63 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, can I just I was at your first 64 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 5: coach performance and you had technical problems, yes, but see, 65 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: like we knew with lights and stuff, we understood, but 66 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: the way that you interacted with the crowd, I would 67 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 5: not have known. Because and then watching your documentary, the 68 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 5: world's a little blurry, I could see like you beforehand, 69 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 5: like I would have melt like I would have had 70 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 5: a melt. 71 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Down, I know, just about to go out and everything. 72 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: Just shuts down. 73 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: So much build up. 74 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: But you then all of a sudden, as soon as 75 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: you hit that stage, Billy, is it just you switch on? 76 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: You have to, don't you. 77 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 78 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: But then you go from that extreme like the show 79 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: that you're going to do tonight and some of the 80 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: other big performances, and then when you go home to 81 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: just the family and you know, mom and Dad are there, 82 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: it's like such a vast change, such a different world. 83 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I know that you go back to the 84 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: basics of just being at home, but even when the 85 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: party's over and you're going through the idea for the 86 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: film clip in the backyard with your mummy's going and 87 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to work, You're sitting 88 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: around the table in the backyard. Like to be able 89 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: to have those conversations, which it seems so simple and 90 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: so normal for any family, but then to be able 91 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: to take that to the world, it must be phenomenal 92 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: to see it develop and grow. 93 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Telling you, dude is a it'd be hard. 94 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: To make sense. 95 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: It's a real experience in my life. 96 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: Can you remember you started writing music at eleven? What 97 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: was your first song? 98 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: Well, okay, when I was a kid, I was writing 99 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: songs like a kid like I was constantly singing and 100 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: constantly making stuff up, but it wasn't like a song song, 101 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: So I wrote like little songs when I was a kid. 102 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: When I was like five is yeah, when I was 103 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 4: like five, I wrote a song with a friend on 104 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: my ukulele about like ukuleles. 105 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: And then like grass. 106 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 4: But my first my first song, I think The first 107 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: song that I wrote was a song called I think 108 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: it was either a song that I wrote called why 109 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: Not or a song that I wrote called Fingers Crossed. 110 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: Fingers was about I mean, it was like a lost 111 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: love song, but it was really about the fucking dead. Yeah, 112 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: because it was a I've said this before, but it 113 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: was a song exercise. My mom I'm actually was teaching 114 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 4: a songwriting class and one of the exercises was like, 115 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: go home and watch your favorite TV show or watch 116 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: a TV show or whatever, and anything that sticks out 117 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: to you that could be a lyric or could be 118 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: like a just anything interesting, just write it down. And 119 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: I was watching The Walking Dead because I was like 120 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: eleven and I like The Walking Dead, and I wrote 121 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 4: down a bunch of the things that they said in it, 122 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: and like the the episode titles and like, so I 123 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: wrote a song like about it. But it's very like 124 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: you wouldn't know that. It sounds like I'm just talking. Unfortunately, Yeah, 125 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 4: yes there is. We put it out on SoundCloud when 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: I was like thirteen. 127 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: I love the asta is important to you as well 128 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: because of the sound that you got from the buzzle 129 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: when you cross the rutter. I love watching that yes, 130 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Have you picked up any new sounds in Australia since 131 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: you've been here this time, Dude. 132 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: I haven't been like like I used to be. Like 133 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: I used to go out and like walk around and 134 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: do stuff, and I haven't. I don't do that as 135 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: much because it's a little different. 136 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: What about when you scan your food like it's self 137 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: check out, Yeah, that could do it. 138 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 139 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: I would have to go to a store to do that, 140 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 4: but we did. When we were in New Zealand, we 141 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 4: went on a bike ride. Because I've been I've been 142 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: going out more for the last couple of years. I 143 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: really when I was on tour, I was just like 144 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: scared to step outside because I was just worried, Oh, 145 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to people are gonna which 146 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: is like I'm more chill about it now I'm more 147 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: comfortable in it. But so I have been doing more stuff. 148 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: But I've also just been busy. But we were in 149 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: New Zealand and we went on a bike ride and 150 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 4: there were these birds that like were making this crazy 151 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: fucking robotic boom sound and it was so sick and 152 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: we were moving so I couldn't record it. But I 153 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: was with Dora, my friend, and. 154 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 1: We were like, we were like, what is that sound? 155 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: It's so amazing. 156 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: Dora and she makes music too, she's on tour with me, 157 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: but she she she's all she's all about the like 158 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: using weird sounds too, and so we both heard the 159 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: birds and we. 160 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: Were like wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait. 161 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's a famous thing too here that our 162 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: crows and rare. 163 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that sounds exactly like that. 164 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: That's good, but I mean jokes have been made that 165 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: they're quite off the sundlight. 166 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: They're saying, dude, Actually I have I do have a 167 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: recording from the last time I was here, and it's 168 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: called Sydney Birds. Yeah, and it's from twenty nineteen, and 169 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: it was I was standing on the balcony in the 170 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: hotel room and I was just going, wow that I'm 171 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: telling you, dude, it sounds easy actually like that. 172 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: Can I give you my dolphin? 173 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 174 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Please? 175 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: It's not bad. 176 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean he did it. Your mouth isn't even opened up. 177 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 178 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: Trying to get yourself onto a billy off so I 179 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: can't do myself. 180 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: That is so kind of you, Dolphins of Sydney. 181 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: That's pretty when I ask you, I know you you've 182 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: written a Gimes Bond song. You've wanted to ask you 183 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: for that. Congratulations. Queen's just passed away and we've been 184 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: dedicating Yah. I to it a bit over here and 185 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: obviously meant she meant a lot to us here in Australia, 186 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: you meet the royals, but protocol went out the door, 187 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: apparently when you met the royles. 188 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: Or I had it all ready to go. 189 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: I was like, I was like studying was supposed to be. 190 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: I was like ready to curtsey. I was ready to 191 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: not shake a hand. I was ready to not ask 192 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: questions and not be spoken unless. 193 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: I'm spoken, not speaking. 194 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: And I was so worried about it. I was like, 195 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna know how to do it. 196 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: And they all walked in and they were like, what's up, 197 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: how are you? How's it going? And I was like, 198 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: oh my god. And it was funny. 199 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: I was with Phoebe waller Bridge and she was standing 200 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: there and Phineas and I were We were like. 201 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: Phoebe, do you know the protocols? And like do you 202 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: know that you have to curtsy? 203 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: If she was like no, and we were like, oh okay, nobody, 204 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: like nobody prepped you on the protot and she's like no, 205 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: like we're just met, like are we supposed to do 206 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: something specific? 207 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: And we thought it was like this big, like it 208 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: had to be like these of. 209 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: Course, and they walk in and it was, which was great. 210 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: They were so they were just so nice and charming. 211 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love that. 212 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: Twenty years all right, just before you got, well, just 213 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: before you go, My big question was like, the world's 214 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: a little Blurarry, is it a little more focused here? 215 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: I thought that was quite deep, that question. That was question, 216 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: but we got that focus for. 217 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I really think it is. Life feels really good 218 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: right now. 219 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: Well, you're happier than ever, you know, I'm happy than ever. Yeah, 220 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: We're so glad to have you in our country. 221 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm stoked a beer, I'm very thrilled. 222 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: We're so excited about Birds of Sydney. It's going to 223 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: be fantastic. Don't a bit more time, but it's very exciting. 224 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Billy, Thanks. 225 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Guys, you're the best. Are listening to the Fitzi and 226 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: Whipper Podcast