Speaker 1: Welcome to person number one podcast. You're listening to The
Speaker 1: Jamo and Dylan Show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're on the way to dance bra little
Speaker 2: Man Trip with before is celebrating. Good day, guys, and
Speaker 2: welcome back to another episode of The Jammo and Dylan Show. Today.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited special guests round two. But we've got
Speaker 3: to meet finally in person.
Speaker 2: One of the most special of guests. Yes, welcome to
Speaker 2: the show, Joe sug cheers voice. Get great to be here.
Speaker 4: Do you know what this is the first time I
Speaker 4: think I've been asked to come back on a podcast. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I must have.
Speaker 3: When you came on the first time, we were just overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: We were very excited and.
Speaker 4: It was over like zoom one because I believe.
Speaker 2: It was during COVID, Yeah, so long ago. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a weird one because obviously we both grew up watching
Speaker 2: your videos, and I'm sure a lot of people our
Speaker 2: age would have. Yeah, and like, that's probably a hard
Speaker 2: thing to wrap your head around, but you've had a
Speaker 2: long time to I guess understand how big you were?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, yeah in person? You met me in person?
Speaker 4: Am I taller or shorter?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 4: You'll see exactly.
Speaker 2: I think probably taller.
Speaker 4: What would you guess from like watching me on YouTube?
Speaker 3: I feel like everyone looks shorter on film for some reason,
Speaker 3: so I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2: We've we've had mixed opinions when people meet us shorter
Speaker 2: in person.
Speaker 4: Some people say taller, we get taller because I was
Speaker 4: always from the videos with Kasperli, who's like a giant,
Speaker 4: Josh Peters, like everyone that film videos with Jim Chapman,
Speaker 4: they were all like six ft plus, So when they
Speaker 4: see me in real life, when they eventually meet in
Speaker 4: real life, they're like, oh my gosh, I thought you'd
Speaker 4: be a lot shorter, So it's maybe I'm still growing.
Speaker 4: Who knows.
Speaker 2: It was awesome though, with the time that you messaged us,
Speaker 2: like we were obviously quite a small podcast in this
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, and you reached out to us
Speaker 2: and said that you listened when you're on your train journey. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were just like really, yeah, We were like why
Speaker 2: because I think just before, like we have had discussions before,
Speaker 2: and I think it was a close close in that
Speaker 2: time where we were saying, we wonder who actually listens,
Speaker 2: who's never messages?
Speaker 3: You don't really know' listening and then you ended up
Speaker 3: messaging and we were like, what, Yeah, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: A lot of people that sort of don't comment, they
Speaker 4: don't get engaged like that, like that with content because
Speaker 4: I always think that with my YouTube videos and think
Speaker 4: sometimes I bump into people at events and stuff and
Speaker 4: they go, yeah, I love watching your video. I go,
Speaker 4: I would never have imagined you would like watch my staff.
Speaker 4: So it's but we do. We sort of look look
Speaker 4: in the shadows, listen to me.
Speaker 3: How did you deal with getting recognized during your whole
Speaker 3: YouTube career? Did it ever? Did you ever find it overwhelming?
Speaker 4: Definitely? Definitely, because I think when we started, like I
Speaker 4: guess I was early twenties, and I initially like loved it,
Speaker 4: But there's also that time where sometimes it got to
Speaker 4: a point where if there's a certain like age demographic,
Speaker 4: so like where we are now, the tube station that
Speaker 4: I got off earlier to get here, we used to
Speaker 4: have to sort of like time it because if you
Speaker 4: I'm wrong and like the school went past something, you'd
Speaker 4: be stuck there for for a while. So it was
Speaker 4: quite anyone, I guess between the ages of like sort
Speaker 4: of thirteen to like sort of sixteen seventeen. This is
Speaker 4: going back in the old days. You sort of have
Speaker 4: to whip the hat out sometimes you want to get
Speaker 4: somewhere quick or something, because you know, you get stopped.
Speaker 4: And it was quite quite intense. Quite we weren't like
Speaker 4: I think me, me and my sister, we both sort
Speaker 4: of I guess sort of fell into it and didn't
Speaker 4: know where it could lead to as well. So like
Speaker 4: we when we were when we were this wasn't something
Speaker 4: that we sort of knew would happen because of making videos.
Speaker 4: We didn't expect like that. I guess that the people
Speaker 4: putting something on the internet, you don't expect people you're
Speaker 4: like your local area to sort of catch wind of
Speaker 4: it as well. So even going into like our local
Speaker 4: town to be people that would stop you and ask
Speaker 4: for photographs and stuff, and you it then sort of
Speaker 4: hits home a bit of like, oh god, yeah, there's
Speaker 4: anyone like where you guys are from that to listen
Speaker 4: to the podcasts, you must have quite a big demographic.
Speaker 3: I think it's always like the first time you get
Speaker 3: asked for a photo or something, you're like, really.
Speaker 2: I forget the moment? Was it a lever? Yeah? So
Speaker 2: basically we have a thing called Levers when you leave
Speaker 2: this TikTok as well.
Speaker 3: We just made a random video before we were even
Speaker 3: doing anything together.
Speaker 2: It's just an idea and just the whole experience of
Speaker 2: Levers is like a coming of age event for everyone
Speaker 2: and you're really excited for it. So I remember I
Speaker 2: made a song called on the Way to Dunce, which
Speaker 2: was purely like a parody song, just for our friends
Speaker 2: to have a laugh at as we Actually I think
Speaker 2: I wrote it after we did Levers. It was like
Speaker 2: the year after. I think I wrote it because I
Speaker 2: was doing YouTube before we did the podcast, just on
Speaker 2: a small scale. And Yeah, I wrote the song and
Speaker 2: then I put it out on the internet for the
Speaker 2: next lot of Levers that were.
Speaker 4: Going and then smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually had a lot of people sending us
Speaker 2: videos of them listening to the song on the way down,
Speaker 2: which is what I had imagined for what I'd hoped was.
Speaker 2: And then Yeah made the song. We went down there
Speaker 2: and we made a video together calling a guide to Leavers.
Speaker 2: So we went the year before, had all these experiences
Speaker 2: dos and don'ts, put it into a video, and then
Speaker 2: we put it on the internet. Now we put it.
Speaker 3: In a when you when you finish school, you have
Speaker 3: these things called waste exams, and like your exams to
Speaker 3: get into an atascore, to get into UNI, and we
Speaker 3: like put the video in a waste Facebook page and
Speaker 3: we got like a thousand views in you know, the
Speaker 3: first hour, and we went to macas and we were like, whoa,
Speaker 3: you know, we're like seventeen or something like, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And then from that, like we went down to the
Speaker 2: two Actually we shouldn't have, but we we.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my girl, and we went like for the last
Speaker 3: three days or something just to hang out, like we
Speaker 3: took a few of.
Speaker 2: The lads went down. So we went down and then
Speaker 2: we actually went to one of the nights like it's
Speaker 2: like a rave night. And then I remember there were
Speaker 2: these two girls that came up to us and said, hey,
Speaker 2: are you the two guys that made the guide to
Speaker 2: leave his video. That was the very first time it
Speaker 2: had ever happened in public, and I remember we looked
Speaker 2: at each other and we were like, what is this?
Speaker 4: Yes we are.
Speaker 2: That was incredible and I'll never forget that, Like I
Speaker 2: remember we have a photo with them. I still have it.
Speaker 2: Somewhere and yeah, that's something that I'll hold close to
Speaker 2: my heart, but it never feels the same again.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's smart making that song though, because that's
Speaker 4: kind of like the equivalent of making like a Christmas
Speaker 4: number one Christmas song. Yeah, for like Christmas, Like every
Speaker 4: time younger generations of people doing their levers are all
Speaker 4: going to end up listening to that song. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: like Evergreen.
Speaker 3: Where our love for Dunsber came. It's been such a
Speaker 3: good time there.
Speaker 2: And then obviously you have an affiliation with Dunsbrough now too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been there. I've been. I've been to Dunsborough.
Speaker 3: You like the southwest, like the sort of beach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always forget because I went. Last time I
Speaker 4: was in Perth, I went north for the first time,
Speaker 4: so I went past two j which I have a
Speaker 4: relative that lives in two That, yeah I did. I
Speaker 4: didn't realize he lived that I lived in Perth, but
Speaker 4: he lives.
Speaker 3: There in like this sort of metropolitan His job is a.
Speaker 4: Pest control as well, which I think that's like the
Speaker 4: gnarliest job, Like I feel like north of perf because
Speaker 4: he's gonna get some crazy that way. It's not like
Speaker 4: over here, it's like spiders or washed. It's like scarier stuff.
Speaker 4: But when we went further, like right north to Cowberry nice, nice,
Speaker 4: I did. Yeah, it takes a long way to get that.
Speaker 3: And you're going through a lot of like.
Speaker 4: You and now I understand why. Out that way you
Speaker 4: get you see a lot of like mutes and stuff
Speaker 4: that I've got this giant antennae on them. Think, how how
Speaker 4: are they that into radio? They want radio stations, but
Speaker 4: it's notice so they I guess if they get stuck
Speaker 4: in the bush they can still.
Speaker 3: When you're going down south, there are a lot more
Speaker 3: smaller towns along away, but when you go up north
Speaker 3: they're very few.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, down south. The first I went was Albany.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as far as Esperance went down to Albany,
Speaker 4: but was stopped for like Denmark and like all those
Speaker 4: kind of places rock and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: But I love it. It's like that's like wine territory
Speaker 4: as well, isn't that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of good wines in the way. We're blessed
Speaker 2: with that. Yeah, do you like your wines?
Speaker 4: I do know what I do. The first time I
Speaker 4: went to Australia. I I don't know if I mentioned
Speaker 4: this last time we spoke, but I it was like
Speaker 4: we were just drinking goon like goon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember you mentioned yeah, yeah, yeah, do.
Speaker 4: I mention the dingo? Yeah, I was so drunk I
Speaker 4: fell asleep puke to myself and then I woke up
Speaker 4: in the dingo was like yeah, yeah. So it's so
Speaker 4: I've got like but now I asn't getting older. I'm starting,
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like because I'm now we thirty
Speaker 4: three next month, which makes me feel ancient, but we're
Speaker 4: going to like I've got the age where like I
Speaker 4: am now slightly more interesting those things I never thought
Speaker 4: I interested as a kid, Like now when there's birds
Speaker 4: in my garden, I'm interested to know what sort of
Speaker 4: species they are. I'm like, now i look after like
Speaker 4: plants and I'm like, now with wines, I'm like, where's
Speaker 4: this from? And what sort of I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: age actually does happen. You do actually end up going
Speaker 4: like you look at your parents and goes, no way,
Speaker 4: I'll be into that stuff when I'm older, And then
Speaker 4: you are, as you start to get older, you start
Speaker 4: to go hmm, oh, it's a mailbeck from Argentina. I know,
Speaker 4: I like those, it's scary.
Speaker 2: I had one of those moments yesterday. Actually, We're on
Speaker 2: the train and I was thinking, this one's really old
Speaker 2: and it's it's just falling apart. What year is it from?
Speaker 2: I look down and it said like nineteen seventy three, right,
Speaker 2: it made sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then I was thinking I was looking around at all
Speaker 2: the beautiful buildings in the area, and obviously a lot
Speaker 2: of them have been here for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I want to have a label on every single
Speaker 2: one of them of what year it was, yea, why
Speaker 2: it was built, like, yeah, I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 2: getting into that weird phase of wanting to know things.
Speaker 4: You do get like especially in buildings. Aroun here would
Speaker 4: see like a little like blue badge on the buildings
Speaker 4: which says if there's ever like a famous person in
Speaker 4: history that lived there, it's got like their name on it.
Speaker 4: He says, when they lived there and stuff.
Speaker 2: We're going to go. We don't have to worry.
Speaker 3: In Australia, you just know any building is relatively eighty
Speaker 3: And for those listenings, we are staying in Earl's Court
Speaker 3: at the moment, and this is West London.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were saying that you lived here earlier.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: I was in Baron's Court, which is one stop along.
Speaker 4: So me and Casper for those who don't know, Casper Lee,
Speaker 4: who's here's my roommate of the time, from our same
Speaker 4: sort of like a YouTube group. We moved in together
Speaker 4: and out of all the place we looked at, it
Speaker 4: was a lot round here in this sort of area,
Speaker 4: but we settled on a place in Baron's Court and
Speaker 4: when we went to go and look at it, it
Speaker 4: was like perfect amount of space, like it is what
Speaker 4: we needed. We had our own space and it's a
Speaker 4: good sort of like communal area as well. But it
Speaker 4: was right next to the tube track. So when we
Speaker 4: went to go and view it, I don't think Casper
Speaker 4: turned up. I think it was just me that went
Speaker 4: to go and see it. And the tube was going
Speaker 4: past it every two minutes, and you heard and I
Speaker 4: was like, we're YouTubers, we make content for a living.
Speaker 4: That's our thing. Is the sound of a tube train
Speaker 4: going past every two minutes going to affect this. But
Speaker 4: I was like the space and the cost it was
Speaker 4: like cheaper than smaller places that we looked at. But
Speaker 4: actually think about that when we went to go and
Speaker 4: look at all these places to move into, a lot
Speaker 4: of them were like student places as well, so there
Speaker 4: are students already living in there, and so whenever we
Speaker 4: go to visit them, a lot of the time, the
Speaker 4: people that were already the people that were already living
Speaker 4: there were just they're watching TVs. As we were looking around,
Speaker 4: they'd all start like freaking out, being like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: it shows so I can cash believe, like what the
Speaker 4: hell are you doing here? Like looking around are it's
Speaker 4: so awkward, it's so weird.
Speaker 3: And you're automatically you're thinking, well, this one's.
Speaker 4: This is not going to happen. Like their pants and
Speaker 4: everything hanging out everywhere. It's like it was proper grim
Speaker 4: some of them. But but yeah, we moved down there,
Speaker 4: and that's and we sort of staged West West Side
Speaker 4: because a lot of the other guys that you know from.
Speaker 3: The ukfts don't come around.
Speaker 4: They never did. Like we'd have to like persuade them
Speaker 4: because it's such a long way. They're all sort of
Speaker 4: based out east, like Stratford Stratford Way, so we'd have
Speaker 4: to be like, we're going to go for a night.
Speaker 4: We lots to me meet in the middle, like in Central,
Speaker 4: but every now and then we managed to persuade some
Speaker 4: of the YouTubers from that way to come over to
Speaker 4: this way, But then that never never caught on.
Speaker 3: What are the Do you think the main difference is
Speaker 3: between sort of this area and more east Ah.
Speaker 4: I feel like this area feels more like old like
Speaker 4: kind of like old school established, Like it's like like
Speaker 4: even now the old railing and stuff, which you don't
Speaker 4: really get out east Side. I think east Side still
Speaker 4: has its history. But yeah, I think a lot of
Speaker 4: it kind of got is getting redone or a lot
Speaker 4: of that east Side is getting is gentrified the right word,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but like it's all getting like redone
Speaker 4: up and stuff. But the east Side is cooler. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you get a lot of like all like the sort
Speaker 4: of like the hipsters are out in, like the shorter chareas,
Speaker 4: like the cooler space of being. But I don't know,
Speaker 4: I've just always found I've always kind of preferred West.
Speaker 4: I think you sort of stick to what you you know,
Speaker 4: Like we're a bit like that.
Speaker 3: A lot of people when we were getting recommendations of
Speaker 3: where to stay. Just assume they're like, yeah, you boys
Speaker 3: would stay. You really like the vibe. But me and
Speaker 3: Jamo like we prefer like sort of, I guess the nicer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this really the men of culture.
Speaker 3: We really do like this area, just like even just
Speaker 3: to walk around, very aesthetic.
Speaker 2: It's pretty.
Speaker 4: Although we work there and there's a street down here
Speaker 4: a poo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's been four or five days. I don't
Speaker 2: know what's going has taken a ship, it could be
Speaker 2: a person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we never know. But you know,
Speaker 2: when you ask Joe, what are the differences in my head,
Speaker 2: because we spend a little bit of time east side yesterday,
Speaker 2: my differences were, well, West is more beautiful and it
Speaker 2: feels safer. Yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of good stuff
Speaker 2: the area we saw.
Speaker 3: I think this area is nicer, fast, it looks a
Speaker 3: bit better.
Speaker 4: There's lots like parks around this area as well, like.
Speaker 3: They're private parks, Like there's one that's interesting. Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: never really seen that in it.
Speaker 4: So weird. Never see anyone into me either. People that
Speaker 4: own the houses around like the access to access to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's funny how when you have something you don't
Speaker 2: use it but then if you don't have it, you
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think is that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: We saw the sign like private residence. Only now we're
Speaker 3: thinking all we want to do is.
Speaker 2: Go into that. But you do it once or twice
Speaker 2: and then we might be bored of it. Just on
Speaker 2: that point before about people sticking to what they know,
Speaker 2: that is something we find back home too. It's like
Speaker 2: if you live south of the river, say in Perth,
Speaker 2: there's the Swan River that dies yeah, north and south. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then there's a little bit of rivalry between north
Speaker 2: and south. But in general a lot of people that
Speaker 2: live north have never lived south, like us, We've never
Speaker 2: lived north. It's just a strange feeling and like anks
Speaker 2: between the two, like the battle between them too. We've
Speaker 2: got this and you don't have that.
Speaker 4: Is it like a rivalry like schools and sea Like.
Speaker 3: It's you definitely identify. It's like do you live north
Speaker 3: or southever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny and then sometimes people will like turn
Speaker 2: their nose up at you if the answer doesn't suit there.
Speaker 4: Right, what side is King's Park on? That's nor south north?
Speaker 4: But the rivers there are you north? We live so right,
Speaker 4: there's a place. Where was the place I went to
Speaker 4: that was It must have been North. It was quite
Speaker 4: like they said, it was quite like a nice area,
Speaker 4: had like a weird name, nice area, the beach. It
Speaker 4: felt it felt a little bit like New York and
Speaker 4: find it.
Speaker 3: Ville. It was like Subiaco is a lovely area that
Speaker 3: used to be it's died down a little bit. So
Speaker 3: that used to be where Subiaco Oval was and that's
Speaker 3: where Free Men on the West Coast used to play.
Speaker 3: But they took that stadium down and it's a new
Speaker 3: one in the stadium Crown near Crown Casino along the river.
Speaker 3: But Subiaco is a very nice area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did like that. I went last night. I
Speaker 4: was in per I went to Frio Prison as well.
Speaker 2: A cool spot. Yeah, a very nice vibe.
Speaker 4: I feel like three. When I last went there, it
Speaker 4: reminded me a little bit of like East London, like
Speaker 4: kind of like asshured, itchy sort of are because it
Speaker 4: feels quite like more relaxed, chill like it's not so
Speaker 4: much like sort of city and bustle vibe. Maybe it's
Speaker 4: just different bit I don't know.
Speaker 2: But definitely it's more of that. Yeah, sort of like
Speaker 2: sort of hips the vibe.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a year of UNI there and I
Speaker 2: loved the experience of just you know, you've got coffee
Speaker 2: shops that I didn't drink coffee, but yeah, you just
Speaker 2: got nice cattle coffee. You're near the water, and there
Speaker 2: was lots of cool people there. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I could do it every single day because I
Speaker 2: was going to UNI every I don't know, maybe three
Speaker 2: days a week. Any more than that, and I probably
Speaker 2: would have gone a bit crazy because I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was beautiful and it was nice, but I just
Speaker 2: couldn't see myself there. It wasn't me. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: trying to fit the mold and everyone else that.
Speaker 4: So what is you? What's your what is me? What's
Speaker 4: your dream? What's your dream? Location?
Speaker 3: Codslo, Yeah is like it's like the richest area, but
Speaker 3: it's just it's like along the beach.
Speaker 2: It's just amazing of me.
Speaker 4: But they still do because my girlfriend used to go
Speaker 4: to the Cops on a Sunday or Sundays.
Speaker 3: There's OBHD Codaslow Beach Hotel, when there's Ocean Beach Hotel.
Speaker 3: All of those spots on a Sunday are like elite.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to be like this Sunday. Yeah, Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my favorite night out.
Speaker 2: Like when we used to go all the time. It
Speaker 2: was just it's so good. It was also good because
Speaker 2: we rarely had work the next day, like we were
Speaker 2: only working part time or something, so you could have
Speaker 2: a lot more fun. Matre had Monday off and it
Speaker 2: would end at it would end at ten, so you'd
Speaker 2: be home at a reasonable time.
Speaker 4: See that, especially as you get older as well. That's
Speaker 4: about I'm way more on like a day thing, fed
Speaker 4: by like the latest like ten eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the next day you're okay because you get
Speaker 3: the sleeping Iletally agree, it's not about those late nights anymore.
Speaker 4: No, give yourselfs so old.
Speaker 2: Yeah but no, but it's true and we look we're not.
Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, but I definitely agree with that.
Speaker 3: There's such a difference in perspective on going out being
Speaker 3: between like twenty one to twenty five for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I absolutely love the Sunday session. We
Speaker 2: don't do many in summer is when they normally happen,
Speaker 2: and the peak time is like you've got sunset and
Speaker 2: then just after sunset, everyone hits the dance floor and
Speaker 2: then it's a really good time. That's the best vibe.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a l the sun just came out.
Speaker 4: It's a sign.
Speaker 2: What area when you come to Perth?
Speaker 4: U stay? So we go to Bunbury. Yeah right, that's
Speaker 4: still south right, I think it's still south for two
Speaker 4: hours two hours south. Yeah, a drive, so it's nice.
Speaker 4: It's quite small. But my girlfriend, I think her family history,
Speaker 4: her like great great great great grandfather came over on
Speaker 4: the ship. Yeah, was putting free in prison, yeah state,
Speaker 4: but I think he was sent there for he stole
Speaker 4: I think it was a coin.
Speaker 2: She actually knows that. Yeah, I don't know what one
Speaker 2: of my grandpa.
Speaker 4: Is amazing because because in free your prison had this
Speaker 4: database where you can type in your details and find
Speaker 4: out which ship they were on. I'd love to do this.
Speaker 4: We had all the we found out what was information.
Speaker 4: And her grandfather, a great great great grandfather came over.
Speaker 4: He lived like ninety nine as well. Back in those days,
Speaker 4: he spent like months on a ship coming over from
Speaker 4: the UK to Australia, spent time in this this prison,
Speaker 4: and then then moved from there and settled in Bumbury,
Speaker 4: and that's where there's a lot of stuff now in
Speaker 4: Bumbury that's named after her surname because he's got strings
Speaker 4: named after him.
Speaker 3: He lived his life around but he stole a coin. Yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly around the world.
Speaker 4: Nowadays you have people like going about on the electric
Speaker 4: bikes is pinching like fifteen phones a day in like London,
Speaker 4: and like back in the day, he stole a coin.
Speaker 3: Think about that for the obviously, like for the criminals
Speaker 3: who got sent to Australia, not that you know whatever,
Speaker 3: they did the wrong thing, it's fine, but like the
Speaker 3: punishment when you really think about it, was very intense.
Speaker 3: You're getting on this ship going to this country on
Speaker 3: the other side of the world that we've just discovered.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've never seen what it looks like. It's
Speaker 4: not like this at all. It's and you've got to
Speaker 4: survive on that boat, which is probably sort of like disease.
Speaker 2: How long did that boat said?
Speaker 4: I think it says like three months my bend three
Speaker 4: wooden ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thieves, Our flight here did feel like flight. It
Speaker 3: feels like a long time, long flight.
Speaker 2: And what flight do you like catching when you go
Speaker 2: back to Perth.
Speaker 4: Anyone which has the cheapest business class, so I can
Speaker 4: like that. That's such a long way. That's my one thing.
Speaker 4: One little like like vice in a way is like
Speaker 4: being able to see I'm going to Australia. I have
Speaker 4: to treat myself comfort.
Speaker 3: Have a our favorite airline, do you know what it was?
Speaker 4: It kind of changes each so I actually loved because
Speaker 4: Quantas do like a direct per yeah, because for me,
Speaker 4: I don't quite. I don't like it. I just like
Speaker 4: get on a plane, especially if you can lie flat.
Speaker 4: I just like get on the plane and just getting somewhere.
Speaker 4: I don't like to stop in if I'm doing a
Speaker 4: road trip, I like to just sort of get there.
Speaker 4: I like to keep stopping off at places for like
Speaker 4: toilet breaks and stuff. But we did fly Qatar Airways
Speaker 4: last time, and we stopped off in Qatar as well,
Speaker 4: and it's just like no, sorry. Last week flew with
Speaker 4: Singapore Airlines, which was wicked.
Speaker 2: They're very nice, yeah.
Speaker 4: But it was a bit. It was I think it
Speaker 4: was literally two weeks after that turbulence on the same route.
Speaker 4: I think it was like London to Singapore. So we
Speaker 4: got on there and it's like the atmosphere was very different.
Speaker 4: It was kind of like just make sure you seatbelts
Speaker 4: on at all times, and it was a bit sort
Speaker 4: of we were a bit like, hope, Yeah, it's crazy
Speaker 4: that it happened on a Singapore Airline fly because they're
Speaker 4: usually regarded as one of the best lines in the world,
Speaker 4: like every year. But what I heard, and I don't
Speaker 4: know if this is true, but they someone told me
Speaker 4: that it's because they because of like the effect of
Speaker 4: COVID on flights and stuff, they're trying to catch up
Speaker 4: and make make their money back, so like now to
Speaker 4: try and save money. They are normally they can see
Speaker 4: where the tubleance is and go around it, but that
Speaker 4: burns more fuel to around certain things, so now they're
Speaker 4: sort of going through it save costs on fuel. And
Speaker 4: if that's true, people in the like that. But maybe
Speaker 4: maybe that's why. I don't know, but it's sort of
Speaker 4: calmed down and I feel like I.
Speaker 2: Flew guitar for the first time on the way here,
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it well as much as I could. With
Speaker 2: kids screaming next.
Speaker 4: To me, hit in the back of the seat that
Speaker 4: we both have stories I had.
Speaker 3: For some reason we flew here, I got a Singapore
Speaker 3: flight to Singapore. Then Eddie had to hear Yeah, we
Speaker 3: landed in Barcelona and they the people behind me were
Speaker 3: like playing a game on the on the tapping the
Speaker 3: back of the.
Speaker 4: Just and it's like it's not proper touch screen like
Speaker 4: a on iPhone. It's like the one. You have to
Speaker 4: give it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like even at the train station, like the
Speaker 2: tube and the underground and whatnot, when you're buying a ticket. Well,
Speaker 2: yeah we have a card now, but when you're buying
Speaker 2: a ticket, you have to press it really hard to.
Speaker 4: Really get some pressure on it.
Speaker 2: I was actually playing a couple of games on the
Speaker 2: back of the seat as well with Grace, but we
Speaker 2: were really particular about how soft we did it. After
Speaker 2: hearing your horror story.
Speaker 4: Oh mate, God chaps the head.
Speaker 2: Every Oh it's horrible.
Speaker 4: The best game to play he wants to be a millionaire?
Speaker 2: Yeah game, I played that. That is good because I
Speaker 2: played that for like forty five minutes, and then I
Speaker 2: got frustrated because I just couldn't get to the end.
Speaker 4: It gets to a point there where you start, you know,
Speaker 4: all the answers in the first like sixteen questions because
Speaker 4: you play it so many times that the same questions
Speaker 4: stuck and begain so you know which ones to press.
Speaker 4: So by the time the flights come into an end,
Speaker 4: you're like getting to that million pound question like enough times,
Speaker 4: but I still haven't completed it yet. I'll have to
Speaker 4: try and complete the worth booking another.
Speaker 3: Flight for just have you ever done any TV shows
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 2: On?
Speaker 4: What have I done? I've done obviously strictly come Dancing.
Speaker 4: I've done bake bake Off, which is big? Is it
Speaker 4: big in Australia?
Speaker 2: Bake Off? Is that?
Speaker 4: Is it? I know your Master Chef's big in Australia
Speaker 4: Master Chefs.
Speaker 2: There's a few cooking shows, but I'm not too familiar
Speaker 2: with one.
Speaker 3: A Master Chef and like My Kitchen Rules is pretty big.
Speaker 3: Master Chef, I'd say it's been like the main stand. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember there used to be one when I was
Speaker 3: a kid, like Ready Steady Cook in.
Speaker 4: The oh yeah, Ready Steady Cook was Yeah.
Speaker 3: Master Chef is probably the main one.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: I did bake Off. That's the one where I cut
Speaker 4: my finger, yea passed out. Other than that, I've done
Speaker 4: like a few, like game shows. We go over here
Speaker 4: like some one called the wheel.
Speaker 3: You enjoy doing TV?
Speaker 4: I do. I do, but I'm quite SELECTI about which
Speaker 4: ones I go on to. I've been asked to you
Speaker 4: quite a lot of them. But I'm kind of like
Speaker 4: I kind of because I grew up watching like television
Speaker 4: as well, like Saturday night TV and things like that.
Speaker 4: So for me, I like, I like doing the ones
Speaker 4: that I remember as a kid growing up sort of
Speaker 4: or I watched when I was younger. But then yeah,
Speaker 4: it's sort of like pens. I still even though I
Speaker 4: do a lot in the TV space, I sort of
Speaker 4: shift now between YouTube and TV. Like YouTube for me
Speaker 4: is still yeah, I think I think it always will be.
Speaker 2: Even if you have ultimate freedom to do what you want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah you do. And it's like and that's where
Speaker 4: like my like fan base sort of originated from. And
Speaker 4: there's still you know, the sort of the they've watched
Speaker 4: me sort of grow up on there. It's just like
Speaker 4: and it feels like a sort of like a safe space,
Speaker 4: I guess even more so like out of the other
Speaker 4: social media apps, I feel like YouTube is still like
Speaker 4: the one that I use one. I would use YouTube
Speaker 4: because they have like community posts now and stuff you
Speaker 4: can like you can essentially do tweets and post focus
Speaker 4: as well on there, it hasn't got the same effect.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's Instagram, but like, I do still
Speaker 4: love love YouTube.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of value in a YouTube following act.
Speaker 3: They're more connected to you individually.
Speaker 4: Even though like for me, like Instagram is the best
Speaker 4: for like, if I want to get a million views
Speaker 4: on something, I'd post on Instagram. Reels do so well,
Speaker 4: I felt like on Instagram, but I'm sure if I
Speaker 4: concentrate on YouTube shorts, I could maybe get it to
Speaker 4: the same level. Who knows. Yeah, I always, I always
Speaker 4: always stay loyal to YouTube for sure.
Speaker 2: How was the psychology of, Like, so you grew up
Speaker 2: in the time where you created videos from a fairly
Speaker 2: young age. Yeah, and then as you made these videos,
Speaker 2: you didn't really expect to get where you did, but
Speaker 2: you just like how was the learning aspect of when
Speaker 2: you started getting views and started reaping the rewards? I
Speaker 2: guess learning how to I guess maintain that.
Speaker 4: And Yeah, I think I was really lucky that there
Speaker 4: was other Through my sister who was also doing YouTube
Speaker 4: at the time, we sort of had this sort of
Speaker 4: like friend group and we were all sort of doing
Speaker 4: it together, so we kind of like held the each
Speaker 4: other accountable. There was probably like a I think for
Speaker 4: me there was a low lying sort of determination of
Speaker 4: keeping up with these guys because when I joined, they
Speaker 4: were already kind of semi established and already sort of
Speaker 4: doing their thing. And I think it were a few
Speaker 4: of these, So this was obviously myself, well my sister
Speaker 4: Alfie who she's now engaged to. They got two kids,
Speaker 4: Casper Casper Lee, Jim Chapman, Tiny Burr, Marcus Butler, Jack's
Speaker 4: Gaps remember Jack's Gap Jack and Finn Harry's. They were
Speaker 4: twins from the UK. They were sort of two of
Speaker 4: the ones that sort of started off that kind of
Speaker 4: brit YouTube sort of semi like boy bandsk Era.
Speaker 3: And that's funny you mention that because I remember in
Speaker 3: the first episode we did you said you felt like
Speaker 3: during that period was a sort of boom in like
Speaker 3: UK culture. Yeah, sort of because of one direction and
Speaker 3: everything was going on at that point. You said you
Speaker 3: always felt like that sort of helped you as in
Speaker 3: a way.
Speaker 4: I definitely think it's the point of right. It was
Speaker 4: all like a it was like a mixture of like
Speaker 4: three or four different things that all happened at the
Speaker 4: same time that just create a spark, I think. And
Speaker 4: I think one of those things was the fact that
Speaker 4: a lot of the world were following what One Direction did,
Speaker 4: and in a way we sort of rode on those
Speaker 4: coattails slightly. Like when I looked back through ol vlogs,
Speaker 4: we mentioned them an awful lot. We lip synced their songs,
Speaker 4: we went to One Direction concerts, and like, I've always
Speaker 4: been more of like a Lincoln Park biscuit kind of guy,
Speaker 4: but like I admired what they did, and I sort
Speaker 4: of I would go along to the constant stuff because
Speaker 4: also that's you know, our audience loved it, and I
Speaker 4: think that all sort of like helped, And there was
Speaker 4: exact thing of like who else is British that we
Speaker 4: can sort of find. I think that happens when you
Speaker 4: have something that's that's like a real big star, like
Speaker 4: a One Direction, people start to go, who else can
Speaker 4: I sort of follow that I can go, oh, you've
Speaker 4: obviously seen this person, because everyone likes to that person
Speaker 4: that brings someone new to the table, and if they
Speaker 4: take off, they want to go. I was the first
Speaker 4: one to discover that these people my music and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I think there was an element of that to
Speaker 4: it as well, where people would we were kind of
Speaker 4: like no one really knew about us unless you knew
Speaker 4: unless you were sort of into YouTube and yeah follow certain.
Speaker 3: Because I feel like for us people in our age
Speaker 3: group in Australia, you either grew up on like watching
Speaker 3: American YouTube sort of like like Logan, Paulan and those people,
Speaker 3: or it was like UK YouTube which is shared in common,
Speaker 3: watching like all of you guys and the Sidemen and
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 2: I grew up enjoying a lot of the football videos
Speaker 2: or soccer right, so I enjoyed Chris m D's videos,
Speaker 2: Y Spencer Owen's videos, and there's a long list of people.
Speaker 2: I loved when the sidemen would do their football challenges too.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what have you had to do? Because I
Speaker 2: know you like your football, what have you had to
Speaker 2: do in regards to the people like, are you clo
Speaker 2: with some of these guys that make the football content?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think, I mean I was. I was actually
Speaker 4: last summer. Me and Casper got called up to be
Speaker 4: in a Chris MD video. Oh yeah he got. I
Speaker 4: think he got one hundred YouTubers to take one hundred
Speaker 4: shots at goal or something to see who could score
Speaker 4: the best goal and the best goal won. I think
Speaker 4: it's like twenty thousand, does that make Yeah? And actually
Speaker 4: I actually scored, Like when I watch it back, I
Speaker 4: actually scored. I thought it was quite good and Casper
Speaker 4: scored a quite a good goal. But then you watched
Speaker 4: about the video like, yeah, we were nowhere near the
Speaker 4: prize money, but it was It's nice. I do enjoy
Speaker 4: I mean I used to be. I used to get
Speaker 4: the call up back in the day for the Sidemen
Speaker 4: Charity Games. On the first Sidemen Charity Games.
Speaker 2: What we found, yeah, they fund to be a part
Speaker 2: of it was fun.
Speaker 4: But it's like it's when you so for me, I
Speaker 4: guess with the content that I'm make and stuff I
Speaker 4: have like my sort of like group of friends I
Speaker 4: make videos with and stuff. But then when you when
Speaker 4: you then go into a changing room that is full
Speaker 4: of creators from different parts of the Internet, there's so
Speaker 4: many like big personalities, and that that's where I sort
Speaker 4: of go, I go into my shell of it like
Speaker 4: and but also I think I did the first one
Speaker 4: and they got called back to a second one. But
Speaker 4: I think I've got put in defense, like both times.
Speaker 4: I think every time I've played in the charity matches,
Speaker 4: I've always been put in defense, which I feel like
Speaker 4: because like if I've never seen you play football before,
Speaker 4: it is that they go to sub that comes on
Speaker 4: and just fills a hole at the back somewhere, whereas
Speaker 4: like I've never had a chance to like flourish on
Speaker 4: the wing, which is where I'd like to play. But
Speaker 4: I think still time is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is that? Yeah? There was one moment where I did
Speaker 4: go up front and there's there's a clip somewhere. I
Speaker 4: think it's the second Side Men charity match where I
Speaker 4: managed to put the ball over the bar from about
Speaker 4: six yards out. I'm literally in front of an open
Speaker 4: goal and I've skied it over the bar in front
Speaker 4: of all those people, and then I didn't get the
Speaker 4: callback for the next one. So I understand, why is.
Speaker 3: It nerve wracking playing in front of lots of people
Speaker 3: or it is?
Speaker 4: But I think the thing is with that is I've
Speaker 4: I've been in situations where I've been on stage and
Speaker 4: of thousands of people doing like Q and A's or
Speaker 4: doing like we used to go on stage back in
Speaker 4: the day with like YouTube in America and all over
Speaker 4: the world, and our thing was just go on stage
Speaker 4: and doing like who's more likely to out of the
Speaker 4: British Yeah, cruise. It's like little things like that. But
Speaker 4: in a way, the bigger the crowd is, the easier
Speaker 4: I find it is to to perform in a way,
Speaker 4: because I did. I did a little stint in the
Speaker 4: theater as well, and that was something I never would
Speaker 4: have was definitely not on my bingo card five years ago,
Speaker 4: and I thought, do you know, off the back of
Speaker 4: doing the Strictly Come dance or dance at the Stars show,
Speaker 4: I thought, I'll give it a go. Never sang before
Speaker 4: in public, just gave it a go and then it
Speaker 4: And in a way, the bigger the crowd, you can't
Speaker 4: really see them, and you just sort of think in
Speaker 4: a way, it's easier if I struggle with like if
Speaker 4: you had to go into a room full of like
Speaker 4: forty people and pitch an idea or talk, that's when I.
Speaker 3: Was more of an individual thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like you stand up coming.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's my worst night there. Like even like
Speaker 4: school assembly kind of vibes like same in front of
Speaker 4: the school and do a talk that no chance. But
Speaker 4: like going out into a stadium full of kids who
Speaker 4: are like who are mainly there for the sidemen as well,
Speaker 4: it takes off all that all that pressure. I think
Speaker 4: it's just my ship. Football scales.
Speaker 2: The closest thing we ever had to that was in
Speaker 2: year twelve. We all the year twelve guys had to
Speaker 2: got to play against the teachers a game of football.
Speaker 3: And this is something you look forward to from year
Speaker 3: seven like you grow up. It's called was it principals,
Speaker 3: car principals. You played them in three sports, You played
Speaker 3: them in AFL, you played them I was four sports,
Speaker 3: you got cut to three. Now you played them in
Speaker 3: AFL cricket, soccer and netball. The AFL portion got cut
Speaker 3: out for our graduating year because it got too.
Speaker 2: Just target the teacher. They hated the Yeah. By the
Speaker 2: time you're in year twelve, there's a lot of muscly guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Some of the guys are kind of grown men by them,
Speaker 3: so they really candish it out.
Speaker 2: Some of them are actually bigger than the teachers. Now,
Speaker 2: so that old.
Speaker 4: Science teacher Yah mullard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but now we played them in cricket. We lost,
Speaker 3: but they did bring back a teacher who used to
Speaker 3: teach at our school.
Speaker 2: I want to give I want your opinion on this.
Speaker 2: So basically, there was this teacher named mister Emerson, right
Speaker 2: and a great athlete, great athlete, great blow, incredible sportsman. Right.
Speaker 2: He left the school to pursue something else or went
Speaker 2: to another school, just taught a different school, like a
Speaker 2: better role.
Speaker 4: Or something scouted by AJ.
Speaker 2: So the cricket day came around and there was there
Speaker 2: was rumblings, there was rumors that he was coming back
Speaker 2: from the dead to play against it. He just tore
Speaker 2: us apart. Yeah, to be fair, we actually played well
Speaker 2: against him. No, we lost because of our wives.
Speaker 3: Had a couple of the lads who were horrific bowlers,
Speaker 3: and I think we bowled over thirty thirty forty runs
Speaker 3: in just wide.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we had good days though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I think that's yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's fair if you can also then bring back like
Speaker 4: an next student, just one, Yeah, you bring back the
Speaker 4: student that did go on to become a professional cricketer
Speaker 4: or something.
Speaker 2: So we did lose that day, but I still put
Speaker 2: an asterisk next to it because no.
Speaker 3: One watched it anyway, Like this game no one watched
Speaker 3: because it was played after school. Yeah, the soccer game
Speaker 3: we ended up winning, which was good, and.
Speaker 2: The whole school watches.
Speaker 4: So is that a thing like in Australia in general?
Speaker 4: Because when I went to New Zealand, we stumbled across
Speaker 4: like a school rugby match.
Speaker 3: I think there's are a lot more intense in it and.
Speaker 4: It was like it was like it was like a
Speaker 4: like a massive team is like watching like Brent, most
Speaker 4: every sports.
Speaker 3: No one watches, like after school you'll get like twenty
Speaker 3: or thirty people. Yeah, just that specific one our school watches.
Speaker 3: But yeah, rugby like schoolboy rugby, the New Zealand school
Speaker 3: boy rugby is very intense videos.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like everyone in Australia as somewhere hanging
Speaker 4: from a porch a bit string with a cricket ball
Speaker 4: attached to it where they just practice their string. And
Speaker 4: it's like it makes me because I've watched the Olympics
Speaker 4: this year as well, and it makes like it makes
Speaker 4: sense as to Australia do so many Olympics because you
Speaker 4: are all like everyone is like so much sportier, like
Speaker 4: sports so big. I feel like over in Australia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like growing up, everyone plays something, whether
Speaker 3: it's a cricket AFL or soccer, yeah, basketball, something like that.
Speaker 2: I guess that's why they do recently refer to us
Speaker 2: as a sporting nation. Yes, we do that well above
Speaker 2: our weight in regards to like the amount of people
Speaker 2: our country has. Yeah, yeah too, how well we do
Speaker 2: it sports that made us proud.
Speaker 4: Watching I think everyone goes up in Australia's so big,
Speaker 4: that's why. Yeah, but you see how big it is
Speaker 4: and how much of that space in Australia nothing.
Speaker 3: Majority of it's just nothing. Yeah, it's just we all
Speaker 3: live on the coast.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Plus the thing I guess over here, we just don't
Speaker 4: have the weather for it. Like most of the time
Speaker 4: people would rather be inside playing Fortnite.
Speaker 2: A lot of people play like football or cricket growing.
Speaker 4: Up more in school more so for like I think
Speaker 4: in the UK schools it's football. I would say football
Speaker 4: is the biggest then like for me growing up it
Speaker 4: is rugby. I think rugby was big, cricket not so much,
Speaker 4: but then we have cricket, Like even like my little
Speaker 4: village I grew up and had a cricket team. So
Speaker 4: it's like the cricket. Cricket does happen, but you've got
Speaker 4: a kind of like get Yeah. As I passed down,
Speaker 4: I feel like through the families more so. But then
Speaker 4: I say that they're like the sort of three three
Speaker 4: big ones hockey slightly but more for for the girls.
Speaker 4: I think like field hockey. Yeah, like the one way
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, the proper yeah, not my not my vibe.
Speaker 2: You come to see what were your favorite sports growing up?
Speaker 2: What did you play?
Speaker 4: I I played rugby. Really that was my favorite sport.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't think that looking at me, but I used
Speaker 4: to love rugby. I think it's when we won the
Speaker 4: World Cup in two thousand and three. That was that
Speaker 4: was like I want to I want.
Speaker 3: To get yeah yeah, yeah, fucking goal that up.
Speaker 4: But yeah, after that, I was like, I want to
Speaker 4: start playing rugby. I used to play in the garden
Speaker 4: and then I played for my school on the wing
Speaker 4: and then played because I was quick, but I was
Speaker 4: just tiny. And the thing is that when I first
Speaker 4: joined everyone was sort of around the similar sort of height.
Speaker 4: But then when puberty kicked in, everyone grew massive why
Speaker 4: growing beards at like sixteen and I just I was
Speaker 4: a late bloomer, so I just stayed tiny. I remember
Speaker 4: I played for my town as well, but I think
Speaker 4: I did it more for like at that point, it's
Speaker 4: more for the social and I used to go. I'd
Speaker 4: be there'd be so many times where you turn up
Speaker 4: on a Sunday morning it's freezing cold, the pictures like
Speaker 4: frosted over, and you have to like break it see
Speaker 4: if you can actually playing, and he let it to
Speaker 4: frost a bit. And I used to sit there and
Speaker 4: like just shiver on the wing and it's all just
Speaker 4: a forwards game. The board finally come out to me
Speaker 4: on the wing and I just knock it on because
Speaker 4: my hands are so cold, and I just sort of thought,
Speaker 4: what am I doing? And then when I turned like eighteen,
Speaker 4: maybe a bit younger, it was when we were also
Speaker 4: sort of like going to house parties and stuff, so
Speaker 4: like you'd have a hangover on Sunday and you'd be like,
Speaker 4: they really fancy getting just pulverized on a pitch for yeah,
Speaker 4: So I sort of gave it up. But then now
Speaker 4: now it's more. I quite enjoyed golf, yep, So I
Speaker 4: play a bit, play a bit of golf, like just
Speaker 4: to sort of more for like the social still it's
Speaker 4: more like a social social sport. But I'd love to
Speaker 4: find a sport which I can get into that I
Speaker 4: could I take seriously because I think it's with me
Speaker 4: is that I'm too quick to not take it serious
Speaker 4: and just be like that it's fine. Like I'd like
Speaker 4: to find a sport where I can properly take it
Speaker 4: seriously and get into it. But yeah, what about you guys,
Speaker 4: you play You both play football right yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well like AFL and soccer to school growing up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't play much anymore sometimes, like we played in
Speaker 3: an indoor like indoor soccer social league from Yeah, played
Speaker 3: last season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe you speak about on your podcast in
Speaker 4: the day about where.
Speaker 2: You were in the Yeah, we lost the grand final.
Speaker 2: Were sad together. That was horrible.
Speaker 3: Well, during summer, like our boys group likes to play tennis,
Speaker 3: so we'll meet up at the court.
Speaker 2: That's and we're not very good.
Speaker 4: No, I'm so share tennis, but we get it.
Speaker 3: Like after a few at least get the hang of it.
Speaker 3: And we have a few sort of our favorite tennis courts.
Speaker 3: There's one in Cottaslow that is just unreal. And then
Speaker 3: there's one the like w A Tennis center in Birdswood
Speaker 3: and you get this really nice view of like op
Speaker 3: the stadium, Crown Casino, and it's so we like playing
Speaker 3: in those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very good. We are pretty like as we
Speaker 2: said earlier, we like the nicer things in life. Like
Speaker 2: we're not necessarily good at these things, but we love
Speaker 2: the niceness of it. Yeah, everything looks beautiful, so we
Speaker 2: feel better about.
Speaker 4: Like the etiquette and things like that, like like the
Speaker 4: like the rules and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even with golf, Like I love playing golf. Again,
Speaker 2: not very good, but I just love the I love
Speaker 2: the scene. Yeah, a few nice golf courses you have.
Speaker 2: We also went to one that had like really good
Speaker 2: Google reviews. It was quite close to Yeah, like we
Speaker 2: went there, we couldn't even get it off the first
Speaker 2: tea box, like we just kept getting it.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. I've been to PERF quite a few
Speaker 4: times now, and I heard the golf out there is
Speaker 4: they got some really nice courses. But when I'm out
Speaker 4: there popular I say Diane, like did you go play God?
Speaker 4: She's like no, she's not into it. So next time
Speaker 4: there we maybe she'd go and play a little three
Speaker 4: ball definitely, of course.
Speaker 3: I get similar to are you planning on going to Australia?
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think this year, no, because we're
Speaker 4: going to have the UK Christmas. I think the first time.
Speaker 4: I think because last time were supposed to have a
Speaker 4: Christmas together in the UK, we were stuck in Helsinki, COVID,
Speaker 4: so we didn't get to actually have a Christmas time
Speaker 4: before that was in lockdown London, so it's like the
Speaker 4: first time since we were together. We're gonna have and
Speaker 4: all the family of flying over for it as well,
Speaker 4: so it's going to be quite nice for them to.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be in for a shock because
Speaker 4: a lot of family haven't experienced exit. I've been to
Speaker 4: the UK before and so I don't think they will realize,
Speaker 4: like how cold it can get here.
Speaker 3: What do you prefer the summer Christmas or the like
Speaker 3: the winter?
Speaker 2: The classic?
Speaker 4: I think for me, like I'm quite like traditional sort,
Speaker 4: so I do like the cold. I like the like
Speaker 4: get a log fire going, and like the sort of darker,
Speaker 4: like when the nights get darker, and like earlier sorry
Speaker 4: and things like that.
Speaker 2: The forty four degree.
Speaker 4: Yeah the first time. First time I didn't mind it
Speaker 4: because I was like we built the sang sandman on
Speaker 4: the beach like a snowman. But like I did quite
Speaker 4: enjoy it. But it's just like it's once you've experienced
Speaker 4: it once and it might be the same for you
Speaker 4: guys coming over here, because it's the same with like
Speaker 4: I forget that your Halloween is like springtime. Yes, so
Speaker 4: it's like to me that like blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Is over here Halloween in London, in England.
Speaker 4: It's slowly getting bigger. Like America, it's like very commercialized, massive,
Speaker 4: and I feel like the UK is like starting to Australia.
Speaker 4: It more.
Speaker 3: It's not a bigger thing like events you can go.
Speaker 3: We've had some friends, you host it, but yeah, so
Speaker 3: massive in Australia.
Speaker 2: We'll not in Perth anywhere.
Speaker 4: But then it also, like I say, like over there
Speaker 4: it feels like springtime. It'll be so weird. It was
Speaker 4: like in the UK when you have Halloween, it's like
Speaker 4: it gets darkerly so it feels more spooking. These are
Speaker 4: fourth of Tree, so everything to feel it's like the
Speaker 4: kind of Halloween vibe.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, I guess all these holidays were made
Speaker 3: like in the Northern Hemisphere when they didn't even know
Speaker 3: Australia existed exactly.
Speaker 2: Now we've just adapted them.
Speaker 3: And we're like, oh, Christmas forty two degrees prawns.
Speaker 4: That it's the funny like jumping about where it's like
Speaker 4: dark at four pm.
Speaker 3: But in April it's like thirty five degreesh April.
Speaker 2: I remember back when I was younger, Halloween came around
Speaker 2: and like we didn't celebrate it or anything, but I
Speaker 2: always like to do one little thing per Halloween just
Speaker 2: to make myself feel involved. Yeeah. So there was a
Speaker 2: house down the end of my street that looked really
Speaker 2: spooky and it was just a really you know, secretive booky.
Speaker 2: I feel like there was mystery involved. So I went
Speaker 2: down there with Mum one day and my cousin from
Speaker 2: New South Wales. We'll get onto a bit of ancestry
Speaker 2: and a bit. But my cousin from New South Wales
Speaker 2: came over and I said to Mom, like, on Halloween,
Speaker 2: can we please go there? Can you take us like
Speaker 2: in front of their house, into like their front guarden
Speaker 2: to just look at the house.
Speaker 4: Just to look at the house. Yeah, it's like the
Speaker 4: equivalent of like going on. Like we used to go
Speaker 4: in the car and Dad would take us along all
Speaker 4: the houses that put all the lights up. There's like
Speaker 4: one house that would like just go overboard and yeah,
Speaker 4: you had to go along and look at the just
Speaker 4: to look at the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then we ended up driving there on Halloween
Speaker 2: night and we just sat out the front in the
Speaker 2: car for maybe like five minutes and then we got
Speaker 2: too scared and we had to go home. But like
Speaker 2: the people there. It's funny because my partner and I
Speaker 2: will walk past the house like on walks and stuff
Speaker 2: now and they're just lovely old people who live there,
Speaker 2: like a, No, it's just an old style house.
Speaker 4: It's got a kooky like gothic styles, like it's Tim
Speaker 4: Burton's house.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: As we were so obviously the cameras cut out, but
Speaker 3: we were talking about ancestry, Joan, and you said you
Speaker 3: went on a show that did it all for you
Speaker 3: and you found out a lot about Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did this. There's a show in the UK called
Speaker 4: who Do You Think You Are? And they basically find
Speaker 4: out all about your your heritage and where you're from
Speaker 4: and stuff. And I found out that my mom's side.
Speaker 4: We were talking before about your links to Tasmania and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I was saying, like, but I found out that
Speaker 4: like my mom's side originally came from like they think,
Speaker 4: like Vikingland, that is, like the North like Viking. They
Speaker 4: moved to France, so they were they were settled in
Speaker 4: France for a bit, and then they they had to
Speaker 4: escape France. They managed to find out that my family,
Speaker 4: like going back, like many many generations, had to flee
Speaker 4: France because the king at the time was going around kidnapping,
Speaker 4: getting people to kidnap their children to try and convert
Speaker 4: them to a different religion. So they had to like
Speaker 4: and they had to do like a like a three
Speaker 4: day trek to get to the coast, and then they
Speaker 4: put the kids in like barrels on a merchant ship
Speaker 4: and sent it off to the Channel Islands, so a
Speaker 4: place called Jersey, which is an island which I think
Speaker 4: is owned by the British, but it's like basically between
Speaker 4: France and France and England. And then so then they
Speaker 4: managed to escape as well, the parents mast escape later on,
Speaker 4: and they then settled in Jersey for a bit, and
Speaker 4: then that's how and then somehow they went from Jersey
Speaker 4: to a place called place called like Ramsgate in the
Speaker 4: sort of east coast of England, and then that's where
Speaker 4: they sort of came from, which is so weird you
Speaker 4: think that it's like so we basically have like French
Speaker 4: heritage on one side and then on my my mom's
Speaker 4: side again but like the my granddad's side. So it
Speaker 4: turns out I had like a great great great great
Speaker 4: grandfather who moved from outside of London and worked on
Speaker 4: a farm. But he moved to London. This is when
Speaker 4: London was still had like a it was like a
Speaker 4: Roman town, so it was it was wasn't Roman times anymore,
Speaker 4: but it was like still had the Roman fence, like
Speaker 4: wooden fence around it and stuff. And he moved there
Speaker 4: to learn to be a goldsmith. So he was an
Speaker 4: apprentice gold goldsmith and he learnt the trade and all
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, became like a master goldsmith and
Speaker 4: ended up becoming like an absolute baller. Had Like I've
Speaker 4: read a document somewhere that said that he had he
Speaker 4: lived sort of in what is now like the Business
Speaker 4: district of London now, a place called like Foster Foster Lane,
Speaker 4: and it said on a document that he had thirteen halfs,
Speaker 4: which meant that he had thirteen fireplaces his in his
Speaker 4: house and had thirteen fireplaces. You were that would still
Speaker 4: be exactly exactly, yeah, he said, who He said that
Speaker 4: if you had that many fireplaces, you would have obviously
Speaker 4: would have had staff that will like maintained the fires
Speaker 4: and stuff. So he was doing really well for himself.
Speaker 4: But then the Great Fire of London happened. Six That
Speaker 4: was a different battle that was when was it nineteen know,
Speaker 4: we're kind of been nineteen sixteen something great Fire of
Speaker 4: London happened and just burnt everything. And I was sat
Speaker 4: there going like, there's like a thirteen and something chance
Speaker 4: that the fire maybe could have started from one of
Speaker 4: his fireplaces, because he had in thirteen fireplaces, then maybe
Speaker 4: it could have been him. But but yeah, so he
Speaker 4: lost his house and then had to sort of start
Speaker 4: from scratch. But they found this document of like all
Speaker 4: the people that owed him money for the jewelry that
Speaker 4: he'd made for them, and it was like dukes and
Speaker 4: Dutchesses and like people of like like royalty and stuff that.
Speaker 4: So I said, there's got to be like a series
Speaker 4: somewhere like a YouTube series or something where I go
Speaker 4: down and try and track these like lost family airlins,
Speaker 4: pay these dips. Yeah, there's there'd be some people out there.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go knock on the Buckingham Palace after
Speaker 4: this and go, I think there's some jewels here that
Speaker 4: are meant to be ours. But but it's cool, It's
Speaker 4: it's a wicked experience. And to find out that of
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff was saying before you've you've tried
Speaker 4: to find out.
Speaker 2: They didn't get it back. It got lost in the may.
Speaker 2: I tried twice as well.
Speaker 4: Maybe they found it. They were like, oh god, this
Speaker 4: is not good.
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. Murderers. Imagine if
Speaker 2: you found out that there was like horrible, horrible people
Speaker 2: in your family. I guess they probably would relate to
Speaker 2: Hitler or something that I think.
Speaker 4: I think on this show somebody they do do that
Speaker 4: where they because obviously they they approached to go on
Speaker 4: the show, but then they actually then do a bit
Speaker 4: of research and then sometimes they do find out that
Speaker 4: you've got like a wrong and in your family or
Speaker 4: someone who's bad, and they they I guess it can
Speaker 4: sort of say look, this has happened. We're fine if
Speaker 4: you don't want to be part of the show anymore,
Speaker 4: or maybe you do. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 4: how it works, but like I know, on the show,
Speaker 4: there has been some people that have found out that
Speaker 4: they're somebody in their finding was a murderer or like
Speaker 4: stole of sheep and then got beheaded for it or
Speaker 4: something crazy like.
Speaker 2: Thatgine, if the found that there was like ancestral stuff
Speaker 2: back down the line, feel strange.
Speaker 4: Like that explains a web toes. It all make sense
Speaker 4: now I've got twelve fingers.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite ancestry stories is it comes from
Speaker 2: my auntie. So basically she was adopted because my grandmother
Speaker 2: was told that she couldn't have kids. She was unable
Speaker 2: to and then my grandmother adopted a boy and a girl,
Speaker 2: so that's my uncle and my auntie, and then a
Speaker 2: magic baby. My mum came out and she was a
Speaker 2: regular birth and then my grandmother had another baby as well,
Speaker 2: so she ended up with four kids, two of her
Speaker 2: own and then two she adopted and one of my adopted,
Speaker 2: my adopted Auntie. She ended up leaving Australia. She met
Speaker 2: a man in America. She lives over there now and
Speaker 2: then she's adopted a Ninese girl. So she's heavily involved
Speaker 2: in ancestry and finding out people's backgrounds and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And she actually made a family tree for myself, my
Speaker 2: mum and my dad and my sister like recently a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. And one of the fun facts
Speaker 2: is that there is a relation to Bob Marley on
Speaker 2: my side of the But this is the wrong and
Speaker 2: bit Bob Marley's dad but from all reports wasn't the
Speaker 2: best bloke.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: He was a white english Man I believe, who came
Speaker 2: into the town on horseback. And I believe that is
Speaker 2: the side of the family that I'm from, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. So we can expect a reggae reggae
Speaker 4: version of.
Speaker 2: Probably cultural appropriation or something terrible, but no, just fun
Speaker 2: facts like that are cool to know. Yeah, like how
Speaker 2: you were saying deal off camera that you've got ties
Speaker 2: back to Tasmania. Yes, I believe on dad's side.
Speaker 3: It looks like the ancestry DNA says, that's where that
Speaker 3: side of the family settled after Tasmania, So it would
Speaker 3: have been like here, right, nice nice cold weather loved it,
Speaker 3: but I've never visited tassinany. I've heard a lot of
Speaker 3: good things, so similar.
Speaker 2: My dad's side settled in Victoria. Nice and just finding
Speaker 2: out these things then you can like cling onto them.
Speaker 2: And I've got English heritage. My dad's mum was from England. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she passed away before I was born, so I never
Speaker 2: got to meet her. Coming here like felt like coming
Speaker 2: back to the homeland, even though I've never been.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the homeland for most of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gained sentimental meaning from doing things like that
Speaker 2: and just knowing it is like a cool part of
Speaker 2: life to know, like where you have come from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so true. We actually, me and my girlfriend a
Speaker 4: few years back met up with Chris Lily in Box Part.
Speaker 4: I was, yeah, because he's he's like he watches like
Speaker 4: our flogs and stuff. He's sort of like Captain on
Speaker 4: the YouTube scene for quite a while. And he reached
Speaker 4: down and was like, I'd love to come come see
Speaker 4: you guys who were like, this can't be real, so
Speaker 4: we won't go to meet him. And he's got I
Speaker 4: think he was there also sort of looking at where
Speaker 4: his grandparents were and stuff, because I think I think
Speaker 4: they were sort of in that sort of East London area,
Speaker 4: so he's like proper into that kind of I guess.
Speaker 4: I guess you get a lot with Australians that they're
Speaker 4: a lot of their Yeah, well we know a good
Speaker 4: place to start back to the UK. Does that have
Speaker 4: an effect on like teams that you support, Like you
Speaker 4: said you settled in Victoria, but you're but you I
Speaker 4: guess you're perf now so Dockers, but like.
Speaker 3: State, like most people born in w a will either
Speaker 3: go for free or West Coast. Yeah, I go for Adelaide.
Speaker 3: Just I just picked them as a kid myself, but.
Speaker 4: Soon to be Tasmania though. Yeah, I can.
Speaker 3: Always on the band, but I think it's basically where
Speaker 3: you're born or like your parents have an influence as well.
Speaker 2: That was how I supported Free Man or my dad
Speaker 2: he just started supporting them and then he Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know when I was a kid, I had a beanie
Speaker 2: and a scarf on Stralia. Yeah, I was just born
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 4: That's the way it would be there, like when you
Speaker 4: guys have kids. Yeah, that would be the same thing.
Speaker 3: As I wish like that he should have pushed me
Speaker 3: harder to West Coast. I would have seen a few
Speaker 3: more final whatever.
Speaker 4: Is it the same with football as well? Like over
Speaker 4: here is the reason you do you have like links.
Speaker 3: To Mine's just when I like, my brothers are like
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen years older than me, so growing up, like
Speaker 3: I think when we played FIFA three, he liked man
Speaker 3: you went for them, so then I just have always
Speaker 3: gone for yeah. But yeah, they were good when I
Speaker 3: was a kid, and Everince got the high school and
Speaker 3: they've won nothing, so at least I'm not a bandwagon
Speaker 3: or anymore I even make the four anymore.
Speaker 2: And then my story for Southampton is just I was
Speaker 2: playing FIFA like my whole childhood I played, and then
Speaker 2: you know how you get a starter team random like
Speaker 2: gold players. I had a guy called Manolo Gabiadini, right,
Speaker 2: an Italian striker who had like average stats. He wasn't
Speaker 2: supposed to be good, but on the game he just
Speaker 2: kept scoring goals, goals, goals, So I just like had
Speaker 2: a liking to him, and then I started following his
Speaker 2: career in real life. I said, I like this guy,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep following. He's an a tal
Speaker 2: guy who was playing in the Italian league and then
Speaker 2: he ended up getting a move to the Premier League.
Speaker 2: So I kept my eye on this, and I didn't
Speaker 2: have a Premier League team, so I was thinking, whatever
Speaker 2: team my favorite player goes to is who I'll support. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he ended up going to Southampton. His career started
Speaker 2: off on fire. He scored seven in his first five
Speaker 2: Premier League appearances, and then he tore his groin and
Speaker 2: then his career has been down the drain ever since. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's in Egypt or something at the moment. I
Speaker 2: found myself still supporting Southampton even when he left. So
Speaker 2: then since twenty sixteen or seventeen, I've been a Saints man.
Speaker 4: You're going to say, like on FIFA, when you're playing
Speaker 4: someone and you go five random the top teams, like
Speaker 4: some rogue team that I've never heard of from like
Speaker 4: the Romanian League one team.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like. I was talking about this
Speaker 2: with Protty on the episode we recorded yesterday. So we
Speaker 2: had pretty Sea on and one of our good friends,
Speaker 2: Josh Rognetta. He doesn't support a Premier League team, but
Speaker 2: for this season we wanted him to have one to
Speaker 2: clean onto, so we did a spinny wheel like wheel
Speaker 2: of names, and any team that got pulled out, we
Speaker 2: removed from the list, and it was the last team
Speaker 2: standing and now he's a Chelsea.
Speaker 4: Man's fair one.
Speaker 3: It was between I think the final two was like
Speaker 3: Chelsea and Everton.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably They probably picked the right, the right,
Speaker 4: the right blue in that scenario.
Speaker 2: Be good. Now let's wrap it up. I want to
Speaker 2: ask you this question. We asked you this last time,
Speaker 2: but obviously it's been a couple of years now, so
Speaker 2: let's see if your answer has changed. How would you
Speaker 2: like to be remembered?
Speaker 4: Oh what did I say last time?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't tell me, don't tell me.
Speaker 2: We'll compare the two. We'll do split screen.
Speaker 4: I want to be remembered as somebody who, uh, for
Speaker 4: a for a peer of somebody's life at so point,
Speaker 4: gave him a little bit of entertainment and took their
Speaker 4: mind off something bad that was going on in their life.
Speaker 4: Perhaps that sounds quite like like that, just for one person.
Speaker 4: Perhaps I don't know one's day. Yeah, I hope that
Speaker 4: the stuff that I've sort of put over the years
Speaker 4: at some point, I mean, I get told a lot
Speaker 4: that it's helped people and take their mind off things.
Speaker 4: I think That's always been the thing with my content.
Speaker 4: I've I've always sort of stayed out of like anything
Speaker 4: that's like real debatable and like contraversal, just because like
Speaker 4: I kind of want to be something that not everyone
Speaker 4: wants to get involved in those topics and discussions. Something
Speaker 4: like I always from that person that people can go
Speaker 4: to if they just want something a.
Speaker 3: Bit of escape from all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2: So the way I describe your content was it was
Speaker 2: a safe space for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's how he wanted to be. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: like sort of I guess, sort of wholesome, kind of yeah, niceness,
Speaker 4: I guess, with a little sprinkle of mild torture on
Speaker 4: my friends. But but other than that, it was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's how I'd like to be remembered, to help
Speaker 4: help people sort of escape back in the day, I
Speaker 4: guess anything anything, but as well as brother, which is
Speaker 4: that's what I should have said.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that's been an amazing episode. Joe suground two.
Speaker 3: Thank you for making the time. We really appreciate.
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