WEBVTT - Sharri | 14 April 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:01.720 Why. 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:03.960 On Sky News This. 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:05.519 Is Sharry. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.520 Good Evening Tonight, a cocky Albanesi boasts he'll run for 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.640 a third term. He thinks he's got this election in 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.240 the bag. I'll play you his comments in a moment, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:18.520 and I'll speak about it. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.279 Live with Ray Hadley shortly. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.680 Also tonight, Albanese's poor record on supporting women exposed, from 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:30.440 demoting Tanya Plubisek to toppling Julia Gillard and refusing to 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.240 investigate the mean girls. Talk about this with Cameron Milner 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.479 and Andrew Carswell shortly, Plus the hypocrisy of the teals 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:43.440 after a leg respender caught paying influences for positive content. 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:47.000 This led to a train wreck interview with Monique Ryan 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.960 and a terrifying threat against Peter Dutton Ray Hadley, as 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:51.800 I said, will. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:52.920 Be live in a moment. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.440 Also tonight, the White House rules out taking questions from 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:02.040 journalists who share their pronouns in an email signature. We'll 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.200 talk about that with Kosher later in the show, but 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:09.640 first tonight, Anthony Alberze's treatment of Tanya Plibisek is in 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:14.960 the spotlight after an awkward rebuff at Labor campaign launch yesterday, 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.200 he snubbed her when she leaned in to give him 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.160 a hug alban Esi, you can see he pushes her 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.440 away by the hands. It was an awkward move that 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:29.480 clearly contrasts with how Albanzi held up Julia Gillard's arm 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:30.360 when he saw. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.960 Her and how he hugged Penny Wong. Have a look. 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.120 Yet for Plebisex. She leaned in and he pushed her away. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.280 The body language was obvious for all to see. In truth, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.840 Albanese's treatment of Plibasek, who's one of the most popular 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.840 women in the labor movement. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.440 Has been ignored and underreported. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.920 Over the past three years, and in fact, Albaneze has 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.079 a long history of not exactly championing women. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.080 He's certainly not the feminist the. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.600 Party makes him out to be now. Firstly, he helped 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:19.440 tear down Australia's first female Prime Minister, Julia Gillard for 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.480 his mate Kevin Right. At the time, he justified this 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.480 decision by saying he disagreed with the original move to 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:28.160 dump Wright. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:34.080 I rang the Prime Minister this morning and had a 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:38.960 lengthy conversation with her. I informed the Prime Minister that 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.040 I would be voting for Kevin Rudd in Monday's ballot. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.639 I'd argued against this sort of action before, on the 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.840 night of twenty third of June twenty ten. I believe 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:54.280 the government's difficulties can be traced to that night. Labor 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.040 is a party of fairness. It was not fair, it 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:58.520 was wrong. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.400 And Albanizi has continued to reward Kevin Rudd ever since, 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:09.160 elevating him to Australia's ambassador to Washington, despite the decision 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:14.440 likely costing Ozzie businesses dearly. So Albenize played a critical 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:19.040 role in toppling Australia's first female prime minister for Rudd. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:21.120 He also refused to. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:25.519 Launch an investigation into the allegations of bullying against Penny. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.960 Wong and Katie Gallagher. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.840 Why because the so called mean girls were his mates? 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.160 Is that a good reason not to investigate the very 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.880 real allegations made by the late Senator Kimberly Kitchen that 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.400 even her husband referred to at her funeral. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:49.280 Kimberly's political and moral judgment was vastly superior to the 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.160 small number who opposed her internally. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.000 And of course there's a lot I could say. 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:04.440 About the unpleasantness of a cantankerous kabbal, not all of 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.880 them in Parliament that was aimed at kimber and the 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.600 intensity of it didn't baffle and hurt her. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:17.839 So those comments from Kimberly Kitching's own husband, Andrew landerout. 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.839 Yet for Albert Easy there was nothing to see here 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:25.640 because it just didn't suit him politically. He steadfastly refused 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.279 to hold an inquiry despite claiming to be the champion 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:34.080 of women during the Meto era and the Brittany Higgins saga. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.480 Will you call an independent inquiry into Kimberly Kitching's claims 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:43.719 or not? No, Carl. What I will do is take 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.920 the words that came out of Bill Shorten, for example, 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.080 at the funeral, which is that Kimberly Kitchen would want 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:52.440 us to move on. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.440 And then there's the way he's treated Plemasek, demoting her 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.360 simply because she's a leadership rival. He removed her from 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.360 her beloved education portfolio and put her in the lower 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:11.279 profile Environment and Water roll. This is despite her enormous 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.320 experience as Deputy Leader, Minister for Health and Social Services 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:20.000 and Education. She's also the most senior labor figure in 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.080 the Lower House. Now there's no love loss between the 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.760 pair to say the least. A recent profile piece on 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:33.080 Plivsek described Albanzi as an ineffectual buffoon, and a year 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.960 into Albanesi's prime ministership, Plibisek even said that she believed 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.599 she would have won the leadership contest had she run. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.560 She said, if I had run, I would have won. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:51.360 Now everyone in Labor knows about the animosity between Albanesi 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.320 and Plibisek, and when Tanya was asked about the awkward 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:59.760 hug and their relationship on Sunrise this morning, she brushed 0:05:59.760 --> 0:05:59.960 it off. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.000 But you'd have to say she wasn't terribly convincing. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.840 It looks like you're going in for the hug. Here 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.880 we go going in, but he's kind of just grabbed 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.800 your hands. Done the orcs thing where he's done the 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.440 double shake. Was that we put him this out effect. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:17.719 Joe's up a bit orcs. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.320 What haven't there? Do you know what? 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:21.839 I reckon? 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.120 We should still all be elbow bumping, because during an 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.680 election campaign, the last thing you want is to catch 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:28.640 a cold from someone. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:29.760 So that's on me. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.960 I should have done the elbow bump, I reckon. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:39.680 He's still getting along, yeah, of course, Oh, friends, buddies. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.800 Just teching buddy's. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:45.160 And it went on. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.760 Now alban Easy is a better liar than plisk and 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.640 he also tried to brush it off today, Yet he 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.560 couldn't guarantee that she'd still have her job after the election. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.880 Will you commit to keeping miss Plibasak in the environmental 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:01.400 for the next three years? 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.359 Sending you're related, you know what, I'll commit to trying 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:10.720 to win this election. I don't assume you might. I 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.680 do not assume Tenu Plivask has been a friend of 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.360 mine for a long period of time. We live in 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.000 neighboring seats. Were good mate, since she's doing a fantastic job. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.360 Although Albaneze was able to guarantee that Penny Wong and 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.640 Richard Miles would have their jobs after the election when 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.080 he was asked about this just a few days. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.600 Ago, I promise to your key national security team, are 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.360 pennywe Richard Miles? Can you guarantee they'll serven next term 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.920 in four in the current roles? 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:39.280 Yes? 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.400 So this and more and tonight I'm going to play 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.200 you these comments. A bit later, Albanize says he wants 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.080 to serve a third term, not just a second or third. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:54.160 And this all shows how overly confident. He is, just 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.640 like with the voice. He thinks he's going to win, 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.840 and he's already deciding who to reward with promotion and 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.320 who to demote. It's also possible he's considering offering ministries 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.360 to teal MPs in the case of a hung parliament now. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.720 Dennis Shanahan in The Australian said today that the whole 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.840 idea that there are leadership hopefuls trailing their coats and 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.679 cvs before the election is one is a distracting sign 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.840 of cockiness and hubris, and suggestive of deeper personal and 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:29.520 policy differences. It is a bit early for Albanezi to 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.520 be this cocky in any case, when the election campaign 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:38.480 isn't over. It's halftime, with two weeks on Saturday until 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:39.200 polling day. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.040 Yes, albin Ezi. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.360 Is ahead in the polls, but he's also the most 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.480 disliked of the two leaders. Cameron Milner, who's standing by 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.360 to join us in a moment, says the election is 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.120 right now still anybody's gain. He writes, by any measure, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.000 Albanesi and Labor have done their best to lose after 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.280 just one yet Darton hasn't been able to convert the 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.320 palpable anger and disappointment into votes at the ballot box, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.640 and he points to what he says is Albinizi's appolling 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.599 record as Prime Minister, one of the worst leaders Australia 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:20.800 has ever had. Milner writes, voters still being crushed by 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:25.000 interest rate risers, spiraling rents and grocery bills that costs 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:29.120 more than ever seem to have for voters a collective 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.320 amnesia when it comes to wreaking vengeance on the bloke 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.920 who takes the upgrades the freebies, asked them to vote 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:40.160 yes to the alberneazy voice and bought himself a cliff 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.400 top mansion in the midst of a housing crisis. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.199 It is a brutal verdict on his prime ministership. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.920 And he also notes as the poll show that there 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.840 is still a large block of undecided voters. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.199 And I'm told that in some seats this. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.640 Is as high as nearly thirty percent, So almost a 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.440 third of the vote in some seats is still undecided. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.440 And these voters could determine the outcome of the election, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.280 but it's very hard to reach them. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.079 This is a difficult time of year. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.800 Both sides had their campaign launches yesterday and Dutton announced 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:22.200 a tax cut of two hundred dollars for ten million Aussies. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.359 It's a popular policy, but it's a tax cut pledge 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.240 he should have made earlier in the campaign, certainly in 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.240 his Budget reply speech, because it's that. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:34.880 Much harder to sell now. 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.480 With only two and a half weeks left to go 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.920 and much of that school holidays, Australians are tuned out, 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:43.199 they're away. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:44.040 It's easter. 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:49.120 It's the worst possible time to make major election announcements 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:54.440 trying to fight for voters attention. The reality is alban 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:59.360 Easy is massively unpopular. He personally has no reason to 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.800 be cocky because Australians strongly dislike him. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.120 They don't want to vote for him. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.720 But Dutton as yet hasn't been able to turn this 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.120 dislike for Albanesi into a vote for the coalition. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:13.880 That's his mission. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:18.280 An expert say it is still possible. Dutton proved that 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.400 he's an effective campaigner. He showed this during the Voice, 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.959 but there's a concern he may have left major policy 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:33.920 announcements too late in the campaign cycle. Okay, big show, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.880 as I said, Ray Hadley coming up, Julian Lisa as well, 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.320 but Now let's bring informer Scott Morrison Press Secretary and 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.880 Headline Advisory Director Andrew Carswell. Also GXO Strategies director and 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.000 former Queensland Labor State Secretary Cameron Milner. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.560 Great to see you guys, as always on a Monday. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.600 Well, let's start with that awkward snub, that cringe worthy 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:58.400 exchange between Albanisi and plibasec Cameron, what's your take on this? 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.600 And do you agree this is alban easy seeing plebsac 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:07.320 still as a leadership rival to him. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:07.800 Oh? 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.040 Absolutely, and it speaks to Albo's to complete insecurity as 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.080 a human being as well as a leader. He's just 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.440 so weak, fundamentally weak, and he's never liked a strong woman. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.520 Couldn't tolerate Gillard so he finished her off, can't tolerate 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.760 Tenya plebsec and regrettably couldn't tolerate Kimberly Kitching, who stood 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.439 up to Albo, stood up for what she wanted to 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.320 speak about, and of course was dismissed after that blling 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:31.600 was done by the mean girls. So if you suck 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:36.319 up to Albo like Gallagher and Wong and Kinnearly, you 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.640 get his favor. If you stand up for something you 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.040 get snubbed, and that's what we saw at the campaign 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.240 launch just yesterday. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.920 And I have to say to viewers Cameron that you 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.840 saw a lot of this up close because you were 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.920 Bill Shotton's chief of staff. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:49.240 So you were there. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.680 You were in Parliament House at the time when a 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:55.640 lot of these events were unfolding, very much. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.360 So, and when I was working for Bill Albow tried 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.680 two leadership challenges against Bill Shorten in that period of time. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.120 So elbows up to the thick of it in this 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.560 side of things and are soon up close how he 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.600 doesn't tolerate or like strong will women around the shadow 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.600 cabinet table and or around the cabinet table. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:17.680 Now Andrew Carswell, there have been a few moments during 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:21.840 campaigns where there has been a body language gesture that 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.040 has really cut through with voters. I mean the most 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.560 famous of the examples of costs was the John Howard 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.360 Mark Latham handshake. Do you think this is up there 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.400 with those moments that voters look at and go that's 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:34.160 not quite right. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.200 Well, it's certainly amusing and it's a reminder of the 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:44.560 brutality of politics as well. Two so called friends and 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.640 embracing in that way, it's also a reminder to people 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.280 that Albinizi may not be who he says he is. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.839 And when you look at confrontations like that, now there 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.199 is no love loss between these two. They've been at 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.880 each other's throat for a very long period of time 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:04.959 since Hangy plittersc backed You're our Boss, Cameron in the 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.560 leadership contest. But on the other side too, I mean 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.040 Tanya is having a bit of a pin as well. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.959 At Albo Nature Positive was dead until Tanya Pleitisk resurrected 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:16.679 this year. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.240 Just to niggle at him. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.160 She hasn't made a decision on Northwest Northwest shelf, the 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.520 gas projects. She armed an art on a salmon proposal 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.800 down in Tasmania, just just to get back at Albanesi 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:32.560 anyway it can. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.000 So it's pretty ugly to watch from an outsider. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.000 But again, he put her in this portfolio that was 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.040 going to be contentious, that was going to have these 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.200 difficult issues, So you know, in a way he invited 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:46.600 this conflict Cameron. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:50.960 Well, and let's not forget that he demoted her from 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.360 education as well, which was a huge role that she'd 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.600 done so much work in a policy space. I think 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.520 Tanya Plepasek has been a perfectly great environment minister. You 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.920 might like all her decisions, but they're thorough, they're well 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.880 thought out and they're unchallenged in terms of the court process. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:05.920 So Tany is actually doing the right thing as the 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.080 Environment Minister. It might not be what Alba wants to 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.040 see and certainly not what he likes to see in 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.720 terms of marginal seats in Tasmania or West Australian seats 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.920 as well, but Tany is doing her job as the 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:20.160 Environment Minister and Nature positive. Actually ALP members voted for 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.960 it at a national conference. They want to see that 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:23.960 policy in place, and we actually took it to the 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.120 Australian people in twenty twenty two. But just like so 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.960 many other broken promises from Albot, that's once we swept 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:30.160 aside as well. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:31.960 All right, let's have a look at news poll in 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.360 the Australian Today, Andrew Carswell, it shows that the coalition's 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.680 down and effectively at least the major parties are back 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.360 to where they were at the last election. Andrew, what 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.479 do you think is this drift away from the coalition 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.520 going to continue for the remainder of the next two weeks? 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.440 Or does dun and still have a chance to turn 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:53.320 the trend around. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.760 It's certainly a difficult ask, and it appears like the 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.880 closer we get to poll day, further the Coalition get 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.760 away from forming any type of government they possibly can. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:10.520 It was always a difficult ask twenty odd seats trying 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.760 to toss out a first term government. History not on 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:17.520 your side in an environment of increasing global economic uncertainty 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.040 where there is always a flight to safety, always a flight. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.960 To a leader that you know. So the task is difficult, 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:24.960 but there is hope. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.000 There is a long way to still go in this campaign, 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.480 and as you mentioned before, the softwod is gigantic, is massive. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:31.920 It's the biggest that I've ever seen. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.160 A lot of undecided voters that may not like either leader, 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.800 but they're still in no man's land. They're still yet 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.960 to make a decision, and they'll make that decision late. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.040 The other thing that should give the Coalition some cheer 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.720 in the poor numbers that we are seeing is that 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.640 their reduction in primary which is what was forty at 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.720 Melbourne Cup now it's about thirty five. According to Newspole, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:53.520 the vast majority of that. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.120 Primary support has not gone to Labor. It is spraying everywhere. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.600 They've failed to capture, spraying to one nation. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.840 On the right, they're spraying to the tills and independence 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.359 on the left. It's going everywhere. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:07.320 So there is a seat to seek concess that's going 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:08.359 to determine this election. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:09.639 It's going to spray everywhere. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.560 There's going to be no uniform vote, no uniform swing. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.639 You're going to see some strange results that are against 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:16.119 the odds. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.400 But that's well, that's the equation. They're in the weather chance. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.200 Yeah, it's fascinating at this point. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.520 And as I said before, a lot of people just 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.479 aren't paying attention at school holidays. They're a way, you know, 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.080 in many ways, it's the worst time to try to 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.879 run an election campaign and try and get your messages through. Cameron, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.760 in your column in The Nightly Tonight, you write that 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:41.960 polling suggests Australians are preparing for a minority Labor government 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:46.439 with weak albos PM being led around by the nose 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.600 by Adam Bant and a bunch of tesla driving Karens. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.280 I love that description of the tials tesla driving Karens. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:58.280 But Cameron, this is what you're seeing saying that Australians 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.840 are predicting news, so at least shows Australians are predicting. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.320 But how do you see this playing out over the 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:05.439 next two and a half weeks. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.760 Well, I'm not sure Australians actually want that. I mean, 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.760 the poll also said they weren't particularly happy with that 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.320 outcome either, they were just expecting it, and I think 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.800 it's because voters resigned to kind of that the weak 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.920 Albow they know is better still than the unknowns of 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.480 Dutton and the risks as Andrew made the point in 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:26.680 uncertain times of changing leader, but I think polls don't open. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:27.280 Till next Tuesday. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.520 I think we're only halfway through this campaign and I 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.680 think that the Liberal Party is actually hitting it stride. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.480 I think Dunton actually had a good campaign launch. 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:35.320 You actually got some. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.120 Real policies out there. You've got a real tax cut 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.040 on the table and a genuine housing plan. So they're competitive. 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.920 I agree a little late, perhaps traditionally, but nevertheless, people are. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:46.040 Going to vote late in this campaign. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.200 People aren't switched on yet and so when they are, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.600 I think Dunton's actually got a plan that's competitive against Albow, 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.920 who is at peak Albow Albow can't get any better 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:57.000 than this. You know, this is the easiest to campaign 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.199 so far for Alba, and yet he's still not got 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.679 a primary bounce and he still look at minority government 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:02.720 as his best option. 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.360 All right, let's end with Peter Dutton's son Harry. He 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.080 joined his dad in the campaign trail today. He's twenty, 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.160 he's a carpentry apprentice. He actually looks in my view 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.320 at least he looks exactly like his dad. He spoke 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.640 about how hard it is for young Ozzies to afford 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.840 a home Andrew, of course, this was one of the 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.400 key announcements from Dutton yesterday that he try and make 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.359 it easier for young first home buyers to buy a 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.640 house by giving them or allowing them first home buyers 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.879 of newly built homes to deduct mortgage. 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.520 Interest repayments from the in card tax. 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.359 Do you think we're going to see more of this 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.000 Dutton's family on the trail to try and humanize him 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.600 and help sell the policies. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.119 Well, what a terrific young fellow who handled himself in 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.520 the biggest and media spotlights, and kudos to him and 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.160 kudos to Peter for bringing him out in the campaign trail. 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.280 We love to see this, We love to see the humanity. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.280 Behind the leaders. I mean this is who Peter is. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.359 He's not trying to be the family man. He is 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:09.160 the family man. So to have his family out there 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:13.639 is a fantastic help. I mean, Harry represents a generation 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.000 of young Australians that have been shut out from the 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:20.200 housing market. They can't dream of the great Australian dream again. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:22.760 So it is good to hear those voices and it's 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.399 good to hear Peter speak into that void because there 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.919 has been avoid for three years on housing where this 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.760 government has not built the homes that it is promised, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.520 whether that be normal homes or whether that be public 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.800 housing as well, there's been a void there. So to 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.879 speak into that office hope to young people. 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:41.360 Yeah, total disgrace. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.679 A ten billion dollar housing fund that, according to Labour's 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.280 own admission, hasn't built a single new house. All right, 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.000 Andrew cars or camera Mino great. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.520 Dicerals always all right. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.280 Ray Hadley coming up shortly on the show with his 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.280 view on the election, an Alban Easy and the tials. 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.760 But first let's turn to this vile play of neo 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:06.880 Nazis outside Senator James Patterson's office, Pence. 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.960 Ball, we cannot move in ourself did year one against 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.320 the other to judge the letter of the two evil. 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.520 To make useful idiots of our. 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:21.440 Soul s all thank you our nation and good. 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:22.600 Time must be no. 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:25.280 No, they let them go without. 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:29.600 Our money, without our time, without our boots, and let 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.240 that be an immediate indication. 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.720 To the chitment, vile extremist nonsense. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.760 And James Patterson quite rightly said he wouldn't be intimidated 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.240 by these losers. Now joining us to discuss is Julian Lisa, 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.560 Liberal MP and Shadow Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs. 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:49.280 Julian, great to see you on the show. 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:50.399 Thanks to be with you, Sherry. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:55.640 Now, the rise of these neo Nazis, particularly with public displays. 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.600