WEBVTT - Parra in Tatters 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:12.039 It's another episode of the Daily Telegraph meror podcast. Adam 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.640 Mob's here feeling a little bit off at the moment 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.400 because rather than prep for this podcast this morning, I 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.120 felt like an episode of Money News with Ross Greenwood, 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:28.080 with you two casual employees talking about your your your thraughts. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.160 I'll open up with the wardrobe part of this show. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:35.440 Make your joy up you. 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:37.120 That is a joy up that chirt. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.800 We have collars, we have standards podcast as we're lucky. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.360 I've got I don't know what is? You don't know 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.720 what gant is? Going to David David Jones and have 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.440 a look around for gant. Then have a look at 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:55.200 the label. It's not a word. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.520 It's not work appropriate, is it? 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:58.720 Do something about it. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:00.200 You run the podcast, the. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:05.320 Podcast, you're just leaning into the casual podcast relaxed feel. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.600 We want our viewers and listeners to feel relaxed at 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:08.080 home with us. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.640 Well, I got to let Buzzy know what podcast is on, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.800 because you're on a couple of different ones this week, mate. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:14.840 I was on the Maddie John's Family podcast, which is 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.920 a lot of fun. The New God Grandfather or I 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.840 was a hardly figure was away and what he's got 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:27.640 a nice house. I seen my message afterwards he said, oh, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:36.400 I said, your wife's a good sort. Your truth just lovely. 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.520 It was really good fun actually, and Jack's are real 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:40.440 smart too. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:42.680 It's really nice. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.480 Well, I've done your father. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:46.920 For long time. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:53.280 He's actually so well read, watches every freaking movie comes 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.720 across this mad funny but he's really tell you well. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:01.000 I did get a photo from Peter Bdell twelve thirty 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.520 am Paris time this morning. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:05.240 He sent me. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.239 First photo he sent me was of a rocket ship. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.600 I don't know if you guys can see that, but yeah, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.200 which I said to him, what the hell is that? 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.840 What are you doing up at that time? Excepting cool? 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.400 It was eight o'clock in the morning here. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.560 But the next one he sent me was on the 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.680 set of the Maddie John's show at twelve thirty am 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:25.440 Paris time. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.960 So where there's Maddie getting into him. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.400 Oh well, you two can't claim all the casual roughts 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.720 for all the Paris hoping for us. I think he's 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.760 just part of the Crown bomber. So, speaking of bombing, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.760 we're gonna get straight into this. Yeah, okay, parent. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.399 So you're back on the tools yesterday. 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.480 Yeah, is this a safe space? Can I let it 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.040 all out? Let's go. I don't know what to say. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.960 I've been a fan of this club for forty odd 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.240 years and I don't think I've ever seen a season 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.000 like this one where everything has fallen apart of it. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.639 I know you didn't have him in the top eight, Mickey, 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.280 but I'm sure you didn't have him battling out for 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.920 the Spoon and not the Spur. But then watching in 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:17.919 the space of six weeks Buzzers, they lose the core 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.320 of the twenty three Stuey Ball winning side, so Blaze 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.800 Telungey quitting Paramatta for their bitter and most successful rivals Penrith. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.119 Ethan Sanders the gun halfbacks on his way to Canberra, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.959 so he didn't want to wait in the line behind Brown, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.320 Mitchell Moses and Dylan Brown. So he's gone to Camber 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:41.320 where he's in line behind Jamal Foggerty and Ethan Strange. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.200 And obviously you've got. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:49.920 Matt Arthur, whose time at Paramatta was probably counting down 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:55.080 ever since his dad was sacked. And obviously Hooker is 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.560 a real problem position for Paramatter at the moment. So 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.200 ever since Reid Marley left. It's it's very different to 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:06.040 when Paramatter couldn't keep like some run into a corre 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.520 or is Papa read Marney in the face of big, 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.080 big money offs from rivals. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.520 But how did they allow. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.080 Three young guys to be off contract at the same 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.400 time that they were going to be ready for NRL. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.680 It's really interesting. You say you've been following them forty years. Well, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.040 when Jack Gibson was there, he had a line when 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.840 he took over Paramatter and he said, when he starts 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.039 in the front office. And at that time, Dennis Fitzgerald 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.160 was emerging as the gun new CEO in the game, 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.960 not that Jack ran the club, not a CEO. So 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.320 you got to who do we blame? And I've been 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.840 banging on for a long period of time through their 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:54.000 chairman Sew macklduff, through their CEO Jim Sarantinas, So they 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:59.960 had a football Mark O'Neill and their directors. I think 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:05.880 they've got to start accepting responsibility for what's happened. And 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.360 certainly can't blame Brad Arthur, you know the coach they 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.320 got rid of. And I know we're tyed with Jimmy 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.600 Salmantinas and all that sort of stuff. But there's no 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.279 foot in house at that joint and his mobs. He 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.359 said to let them all off at the same time, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.359 to put these ridiculous I wasn't aware of this stuff. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.360 James has been going on about Mitchell Moss clause. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.720 It's public the clauses that the options are public on 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.039 the NRL website. So but they've had lot, They've had 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.719 players with too many clauses. Cibo has had a clause. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.760 Ryan Madison's had a clause. All these guys have had 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.440 clauses throughout that time and they've got their six and 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:44.000 seven with these clauses. Now, you know, you might be 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.960 able to get away with one player and your roster 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.480 having a clause, but not this many. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:53.760 But we're all saying the roster needs refresh and a 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.480 reset and a recharge mate. I think as important he's 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:04.479 a broom put through man, a complete broom. They have 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.839 allowed this club to sink. I think it's their lower 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:13.200 I know when they salary cap and they you know 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.479 that they are an all time low there, but they're 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.440 approaching that now. And you know the difference is it's 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:22.920 structured now. So passionate fans who want to make a 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.160 difference on board level. I think they'll find it's impossible 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.799 to get in there and force change like the West 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.880 Tigers fans were able to do last year when Justin 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:37.000 Pasco and Lee Hadjapentalis we lose. They're just locked into 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.240 this safe house. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:44.640 And then the governance is an issue. Well yeah, but 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.320 you couldn't have what was going on before. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:46.880 You couldn't. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:47.280 Couldn't. 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.839 No, no, no, I'm not saying that the previous lot 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:58.320 is Steve Sharp and that crab, but this, this is terrible. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.000 I think this is the this is the powerhouse of 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.200 Western Sydney. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.240 I wonder if making the Grand Final is the worst 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.360 thing for this club because it sort of gave them 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.720 a false economy in terms of the players, the coach 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.320 and staff, and the management in a way as well. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.520 And they backed those players that led them to that 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.320 Grand Final, which is potentially the right thing to do. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.440 But since then it's been a disars and they still 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.200 have all these guys on big money and so you're 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.640 blame on the players. Well, they've got they've got to 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.840 take something. Everyone has to take accountability for this, right, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.120 I'm not I'm not singling out the players, but a 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.720 lot of these players are on big money and not 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.200 aiming up right, and you've got players and the issue 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.160 with players is that the ROSSA does need a read, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.440 a refresh and a reboot. And then one of the 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.880 players to lead that was Blaze and hundred percent right 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.440 speaking of rival clubs yesterday, they're amazed that they had 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.840 like the matter, like, the matter of the situation is different, right, Okay, 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.600 Like I'm not going to pin this on the club. Okay, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.080 that Ethan Sanders won where you've got a guy that 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.800 doesn't want to play behind two established halves, So that's 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.920 a tricky one. Blaze isn't is You can't defend that 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.320 right now. But the fact that they had those that 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.720 Ethan and Blaze off contract at a time when they're 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.320 probably coming into first grade is a blunder. And it's 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.560 one of a number of blunders that they made with 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.000 these options and the like. So there's no sugarcoating it 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.200 on options. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.920 So they should have had Ethan Sanders locked in knowing 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.800 that there's three new franchise come in. I think Dylan 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.040 Brown will be pinched by a new franchise, will become 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.400 a one point two million dollar players somewhere. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.360 Well, you have a look at when his options are 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.760 coming up us next year around ten, he has to 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.920 advise him the next one, he's twenty twenty eight. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.480 What's happening around twenty twenty eight? 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:53.800 Expension sides they're leaderless too. I think they're leaderless. 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:55.880 I think it's a big job for Jason. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.880 Ryan is at the moment, you know, just. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.520 Treating what everyone in that organization is trading water to 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:02.880 get to the end of the year. And they hoping 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.840 that come November one or whenever they resume pre season 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.120 training and it's going to start a fresh whether or 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.760 not it works like that or not, that's the hope there. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.920 But look at their body language meet compared to the Bulldogs. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:16.040 Just look at it. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.760 Look at it compared to Sourseuse's souse in a similar 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.600 situation to the way Paramatta were in terms of the 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.360 coach gone, interim coach, senior players out of form, and 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.800 look what Ben harm has been able to do and 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.439 turn that and the response from the senior players, right, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.360 the response hasn't been there from Paramatta senior players. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:35.880 But you know, you know what upsets me as an 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.000 Eels fan is that, like you said, me, maybe the 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.439 twenty two Grand Final sugar coated some things for them, 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.559 But there was a bit of a gap there between 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.960 that Grand Final and this talent coming through because, to 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.640 Paramatter's credit, a decade ago they identified that their pathways 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.400 were stuffed, they were not developing. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:55.679 There was no Tim Manners. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.600 You know, Tim Madder was the last Paramatta Bred origin 0:09:58.600 --> 0:09:59.319 player to come through. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.160 Before that, it was you know, the likes of Hayne 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.000 and Copine and in Matao, all these guys that were 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.560 a good cross player. And we've seen guys drip through. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.840 Will Penssin he's been good, Sean Russell's been okay coming through, 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.240 but this was the golden generator. This is this was 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.240 their group that was going to be the first of 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.360 many to pump through. Because when you're looking across the 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.360 road and seeing what Penwrith are doing going, well, we've 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.200 got that north West Sydney area there, why aren't we 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.560 doing the same thing and these guys are the next 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:26.880 big things and we're. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.440 In crucial positions. Yeah too. That's the other thing. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.680 I've seen fans come and criticize and say, oh, well, 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.120 Blaze Tlangy, Missus Tackles, he's not that great, they're eighteen nineteen. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.719 Yeah, you're talking about keeping these guys. What are they 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.480 going to be when they're twenty four to twenty five? 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.360 You know, they missed tackles, Cantering missed more tackles than anyone. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:47.120 They're so hungry, so feel that they cover for each other. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.240 Ye And look, I think these guys were rushed in 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.240 the first grade before they were ready this year because 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.480 of the drama at Paramatta with injuries and whatever else. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.280 But they were getting experienced, so this year was a 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.560 right off. But if you had them there going forward, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.160 and there's a good bunch of kids coming through now 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.640 in that group that you have to wonder. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:06.520 What's tell you? 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.719 What I find incredible is Jason Ryles didn't take on 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.440 the Saint Georgia Lawarra job because Saint Georgia Lawarre in 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.320 a position that paramattis now in. And I know I 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:22.400 back the power Junior system. But it's a similar ship Sandwich, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.160 isn't it. It's just is Yeah, it. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.560 Is similar to the one that shame fun again inherited. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.120 I'd argue that the roster of Paramatters willbly be better, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.680 because yeah, it better. Well, you've got to have a 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.520 look at the roster. Well you have a look at 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:43.000 better than the Dragon's ross. Well you've got Mitch Moses. Sorry, 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.160 like I'm talking about the squad. We're not talking about 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.520 the one to seventeen here, We're talking about their roster 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:48.360 as a whole. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.880 Well, Mitchell mooson Ben Hunt can nearly. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.440 Cancel each other, can not. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.640 It's not even say your bagging Ben Hunt now compared 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.520 to Mitchell Moses, aren't you? The blaker said, can Canberra 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:00.160 run us? 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.160 Have you seen? I said bottom four? 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.320 And whether I'm going to go back and get the tape? 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:08.560 I said bottom four? 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:15.960 I got some pretty powerful tech guys. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.199 I didn't they going to How many teams have got 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.040 running last? By the way, does everyone think I've got 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.720 everyone coming last? It's a good it's a good running 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.440 gag at the moment. But if Mitch Moses, please, But 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:27.160 my point is. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.120 What's disappointing about this is what I think beIN Hunt 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.080 is a great player. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.520 Mitch Moses is far superior to Ben Hunt. Is he 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:45.640 fast superior? You disagree? Currently? Yeah, currently we're judging on 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.480 right now, Mitch Moses on the open, I can get someone. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.320 Dragons were playing one point five million dollars. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.160 What are they playing? Ben Hunt? 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:53.880 Million dollars at the moment? 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.280 There you go and see what annoys me about this 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:57.200 with Paramatta? 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.320 Just who would rather brown or gold? Brown? Thank you? 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.560 Yes, you're you're conceding my point. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.559 Look, I've forgot what your point is. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.240 You mate? 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.680 You you obviously aren't getting enough sleep at the two 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.920 barbs excuse me? And you are all over the shop. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:24.480 Mom, move this thing a moment, aren't you. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.080 I'm not. Let's move on. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.959 Yeah, thank you, be respectful. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.600 So my issue with this, when we're talking about Paramount 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.000 being at such a lower eb at the moment, is 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.480 because they've now got these pathways and all that, they 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.800 should be in a better position when they were going 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.880 like bustards ten years ago, when they were getting spoons. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.720 Things are an absolute mess. Things shouldn't be a mess now. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:45.520 They shouldn't be in this position. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.439 So I'm saying to mate, So you head of football, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.480 it's the chairman, it's the board, it's the CEO. They 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:56.600 are running the football operation. And when things fall over 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.560 the way they have this year and the best kids 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.880 they've have emerged for years ago walk out. You've got 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:08.320 to make changes to the board. If I was Shawn macklduff, seriously, 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.920 you'd put your hand up and just go. You really would. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.000 He's the chair of the club. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:16.320 It's there in a hole. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.800 The system has fallen over under his watch. They're in 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.720 a massive home membership can't get to win because there's 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.520 a brick wall that's gone up. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.760 Most clubs are like that, but now most clubs are 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.360 like that. It's very hard to to get onto boards or. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:39.480 Top of board hold on. No one's going as outside 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.400 of the West Tigers as bad as Power. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.640 Well, I'm not defending them us and the players that 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.240 they've got locked in long term aside side from Mitchell 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.680 Moses right or the rest of them, if they hit 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.600 the open market, their value would be a fraction of 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.920 what they're except for Mitch Moses. Mitch Moses could command 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.160 essentially what he wanted to on the open market, right. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.400 And I'm including Dylan Brown, And Dylan Brown's on money 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.120 this year and he hasn't been great, and we saw 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:03.280 not at all. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.880 And we saw when the finals last year when he 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.880 played up and got suspended for eight boys. You look 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.960 at the rest of those finals, the. 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.120 Rest of those players who would earn more money than 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.760 what they're on exited from Mitch Moses potentially. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:22.000 Will Pensini potentially, but not much else because we'retten. Kim 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.320 mcgillard and Junior Barla are on massive coin. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.360 Charlaine Ryan, Madison, Hopwood probably maybe hop Goood, Yeah, give 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.560 you that. But they have resigned him so with a boost. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.440 But he would have been the man in the open 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.960 markets he looked until now. He did a couple more years, 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:43.240 so two more, maybe three more. I'm not exactly sure. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.800 This question next week on your outfit, and I'm just 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:55.400 looking at it. I'm gonna yeah, sorry, I just looked. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.480 I couldn't help himself go with it. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.520 I got a question for you. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.680 You reported that Paramatta would not wave the ten day 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.000 calling off period. Are they intending on trying to convince 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.640 a backflip out of Blaze to LUNGI? 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:10.360 I don't think so. I think it's just a matter 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.400 of frustration. We've seen it. So the reason Penrith haven't 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.440 come out and formally announced anything as a fact that technically, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:21.120 under the NRL rules they can't sign or formally sign 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.760 a contract or the contract isn't valid until the ten 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.480 day calling off period unless clubs wave the ten day 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.880 calling off period, and we've seen that a couple of times. 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.120 Penrith have done that with a few players that have 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.760 left the club, but the Eels have opted against it. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.440 That's why Penrith aren't saying anything at the moment. But 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.000 he'll be at the Panthers next year for the next 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.760 three years. Three years, so three year deal for Blaze 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:48.400 to join and his younger brother right may join him 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:49.320 at some point too. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.280 It was also of contract. What do you think of 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.360 calling him the Traboyevitch is a paramount. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.160 They're not the Traboys just yet, but they're potentially. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.680 There is paramount as paramatic can be. Cabramatta Junior is 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.000 the dad coach is there? It's just yeah, it's. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.760 Fans. Any hope we've we've I think we've divoded enough 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.080 of my podcast to your club. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.920 Do we just get any Give them any hope? Moms, 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:19.560 you of what something a matter time soon. Charlie Geimer 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.119 was great in his inerial debut. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:25.679 He's part of that street ball team, seem Touvardi, Saxon PreK, 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.080 Richard Penasini. He gets back from injury. But yeah, that's 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.560 not it's not your spine all right, let's move on. 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.640 Let's move on. You got that didn't help me at all? 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.480 Are we've been too sensible? 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:42.560 Yeah? 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.240 Probably, well apart from we have to you have to 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.720 balance it out when the when the outfit's not sensible. 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:49.439 That mix got on. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.800 We're infotainment, they call it what they call it, so 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.919 we give information entertained and we're talent. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:05.000 Allen doesn't iron. Talent doesn't iron. That was your best 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:11.480 line ever on this podcast. I saw your suit last 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:12.439 night on three. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:17.040 Sixty free suit, no wonder, he doesn't make canty gets 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:17.960 eating for free? 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.040 Hello tax man. I don't get to keep it. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.560 I just leave it there for blow me count the 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.680 other day because I said to him, can I claim 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.080 dry cleaning as I am talent on a show? Yes, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.679 and need to look the part. Wouldn't let me, wouldn't 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.680 ley you? I said, it's a uniform, Yes, I must 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:42.560 wear a neatly pressed suit and shirt. He said no 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:50.320 justification for that, or just said I can't wow. What 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.280 do you your stuff? What do you spend a week? 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.719 I'd bake chances, an arm and a leg up at 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:58.359 coming back. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:11.159 Him. The other big news this where Brian, what is 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:16.720 going on? Mick Well obviously the rumbling starter during Origin camp. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.840 There's no doubt about that. And it's not you know, 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.720 people have well, I guess doubts in his mind or 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.080 the fact that he got to hang out with his 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.119 mates again. Right, And this is not to disparage his 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.640 relationship with the current players at the Panthers, but there's 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.879 no doubt his closest friends. His four groomsmen at his 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:39.479 wedding were Taruva, Lenu, Criyton and Loui. Okay, there were 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:44.400 four groovesmen and the only and he'll be the only 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:45.200 one there next year. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:45.680 Okay. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.320 So and he's seen what the players have left the 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.200 Panthers been able to achieve and how happy they are. 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.000 And the lot of the West Tigers in Canterbury at 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:55.560 the moment, are they well, no. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.200 One at the Tigers yet they're not at the Tigers. Louis, Yeah, 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:00.360 but Crichton's gone good. 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.280 But why did you sign for four years? He was 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.399 the first one of them, He was the first He 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:08.080 signed for four years because he probably thought that they'd 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.679 all take dirty about his money. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:12.879 Well, how can you be dirty on his money when 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.199 he's the highest paid when you're in the game it's 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.080 six one hundred and fifty have been a surprise? 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:17.919 Does he not read the rich one hundred every year? 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.840 But he's the highest paid when you're in the game, right, 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:22.800 I know, like you've got the matter happened. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.440 What would happen if the club went to him and said, look, 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.520 you signed for six fifty, you've had a bad couple 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.199 of years. Will knock you down to fourred. 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.399 Because clubs can't do a good. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.840 Deal manager and all this, they were advised him to 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.000 sign for four years. Why didn't he sign for two 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:39.440 and then? 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.359 But it's a good it's a good money deal. But 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.439 it's a good money it's a good money deal because 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.600 you know, on the open market, what could Brian to 0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:50.400 I had this argument last night, right, I don't think 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.800 he's going to get colleagues. 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.520 Fox went and looked at his quotes. When he resigned, 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:00.480