Speaker 1: It's another episode of the Daily Telegraph meror podcast. Adam
Speaker 1: Mob's here feeling a little bit off at the moment
Speaker 1: because rather than prep for this podcast this morning, I
Speaker 1: felt like an episode of Money News with Ross Greenwood,
Speaker 1: with you two casual employees talking about your your your thraughts.
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Speaker 3: It's not work appropriate, is it?
Speaker 2: Do something about it.
Speaker 3: You run the podcast, the.
Speaker 1: Podcast, you're just leaning into the casual podcast relaxed feel.
Speaker 3: We want our viewers and listeners to feel relaxed at
Speaker 3: home with us.
Speaker 1: Well, I got to let Buzzy know what podcast is on,
Speaker 1: because you're on a couple of different ones this week, mate.
Speaker 2: I was on the Maddie John's Family podcast, which is
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. The New God Grandfather or I
Speaker 2: was a hardly figure was away and what he's got
Speaker 2: a nice house. I seen my message afterwards he said, oh,
Speaker 2: I said, your wife's a good sort. Your truth just lovely.
Speaker 2: It was really good fun actually, and Jack's are real
Speaker 2: smart too.
Speaker 3: It's really nice.
Speaker 2: Well, I've done your father.
Speaker 3: For long time.
Speaker 2: He's actually so well read, watches every freaking movie comes
Speaker 2: across this mad funny but he's really tell you well.
Speaker 1: I did get a photo from Peter Bdell twelve thirty
Speaker 1: am Paris time this morning.
Speaker 3: He sent me.
Speaker 1: First photo he sent me was of a rocket ship.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys can see that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: which I said to him, what the hell is that?
Speaker 2: What are you doing up at that time? Excepting cool?
Speaker 3: It was eight o'clock in the morning here.
Speaker 1: But the next one he sent me was on the
Speaker 1: set of the Maddie John's show at twelve thirty am
Speaker 1: Paris time.
Speaker 3: So where there's Maddie getting into him.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you two can't claim all the casual roughts
Speaker 1: for all the Paris hoping for us. I think he's
Speaker 1: just part of the Crown bomber. So, speaking of bombing,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get straight into this. Yeah, okay, parent.
Speaker 2: So you're back on the tools yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is this a safe space? Can I let it
Speaker 3: all out? Let's go. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: I've been a fan of this club for forty odd
Speaker 1: years and I don't think I've ever seen a season
Speaker 1: like this one where everything has fallen apart of it.
Speaker 1: I know you didn't have him in the top eight, Mickey,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you didn't have him battling out for
Speaker 1: the Spoon and not the Spur. But then watching in
Speaker 1: the space of six weeks Buzzers, they lose the core
Speaker 1: of the twenty three Stuey Ball winning side, so Blaze
Speaker 1: Telungey quitting Paramatta for their bitter and most successful rivals Penrith.
Speaker 1: Ethan Sanders the gun halfbacks on his way to Canberra,
Speaker 1: so he didn't want to wait in the line behind Brown,
Speaker 1: Mitchell Moses and Dylan Brown. So he's gone to Camber
Speaker 1: where he's in line behind Jamal Foggerty and Ethan Strange.
Speaker 3: And obviously you've got.
Speaker 1: Matt Arthur, whose time at Paramatta was probably counting down
Speaker 1: ever since his dad was sacked. And obviously Hooker is
Speaker 1: a real problem position for Paramatter at the moment. So
Speaker 1: ever since Reid Marley left. It's it's very different to
Speaker 1: when Paramatter couldn't keep like some run into a corre
Speaker 1: or is Papa read Marney in the face of big,
Speaker 1: big money offs from rivals.
Speaker 3: But how did they allow.
Speaker 1: Three young guys to be off contract at the same
Speaker 1: time that they were going to be ready for NRL.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting. You say you've been following them forty years. Well,
Speaker 2: when Jack Gibson was there, he had a line when
Speaker 2: he took over Paramatter and he said, when he starts
Speaker 2: in the front office. And at that time, Dennis Fitzgerald
Speaker 2: was emerging as the gun new CEO in the game,
Speaker 2: not that Jack ran the club, not a CEO. So
Speaker 2: you got to who do we blame? And I've been
Speaker 2: banging on for a long period of time through their
Speaker 2: chairman Sew macklduff, through their CEO Jim Sarantinas, So they
Speaker 2: had a football Mark O'Neill and their directors. I think
Speaker 2: they've got to start accepting responsibility for what's happened. And
Speaker 2: certainly can't blame Brad Arthur, you know the coach they
Speaker 2: got rid of. And I know we're tyed with Jimmy
Speaker 2: Salmantinas and all that sort of stuff. But there's no
Speaker 2: foot in house at that joint and his mobs. He
Speaker 2: said to let them all off at the same time,
Speaker 2: to put these ridiculous I wasn't aware of this stuff.
Speaker 2: James has been going on about Mitchell Moss clause.
Speaker 3: It's public the clauses that the options are public on
Speaker 3: the NRL website. So but they've had lot, They've had
Speaker 3: players with too many clauses. Cibo has had a clause.
Speaker 3: Ryan Madison's had a clause. All these guys have had
Speaker 3: clauses throughout that time and they've got their six and
Speaker 3: seven with these clauses. Now, you know, you might be
Speaker 3: able to get away with one player and your roster
Speaker 3: having a clause, but not this many.
Speaker 2: But we're all saying the roster needs refresh and a
Speaker 2: reset and a recharge mate. I think as important he's
Speaker 2: a broom put through man, a complete broom. They have
Speaker 2: allowed this club to sink. I think it's their lower
Speaker 2: I know when they salary cap and they you know
Speaker 2: that they are an all time low there, but they're
Speaker 2: approaching that now. And you know the difference is it's
Speaker 2: structured now. So passionate fans who want to make a
Speaker 2: difference on board level. I think they'll find it's impossible
Speaker 2: to get in there and force change like the West
Speaker 2: Tigers fans were able to do last year when Justin
Speaker 2: Pasco and Lee Hadjapentalis we lose. They're just locked into
Speaker 2: this safe house.
Speaker 3: And then the governance is an issue. Well yeah, but
Speaker 3: you couldn't have what was going on before.
Speaker 2: You couldn't.
Speaker 3: Couldn't.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not saying that the previous lot
Speaker 2: is Steve Sharp and that crab, but this, this is terrible.
Speaker 2: I think this is the this is the powerhouse of
Speaker 2: Western Sydney.
Speaker 3: I wonder if making the Grand Final is the worst
Speaker 3: thing for this club because it sort of gave them
Speaker 3: a false economy in terms of the players, the coach
Speaker 3: and staff, and the management in a way as well.
Speaker 3: And they backed those players that led them to that
Speaker 3: Grand Final, which is potentially the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: But since then it's been a disars and they still
Speaker 3: have all these guys on big money and so you're
Speaker 3: blame on the players. Well, they've got they've got to
Speaker 3: take something. Everyone has to take accountability for this, right,
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not singling out the players, but a
Speaker 3: lot of these players are on big money and not
Speaker 3: aiming up right, and you've got players and the issue
Speaker 3: with players is that the ROSSA does need a read,
Speaker 3: a refresh and a reboot. And then one of the
Speaker 3: players to lead that was Blaze and hundred percent right
Speaker 3: speaking of rival clubs yesterday, they're amazed that they had
Speaker 3: like the matter, like, the matter of the situation is different, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to pin this on the club. Okay,
Speaker 3: that Ethan Sanders won where you've got a guy that
Speaker 3: doesn't want to play behind two established halves, So that's
Speaker 3: a tricky one. Blaze isn't is You can't defend that
Speaker 3: right now. But the fact that they had those that
Speaker 3: Ethan and Blaze off contract at a time when they're
Speaker 3: probably coming into first grade is a blunder. And it's
Speaker 3: one of a number of blunders that they made with
Speaker 3: these options and the like. So there's no sugarcoating it
Speaker 3: on options.
Speaker 2: So they should have had Ethan Sanders locked in knowing
Speaker 2: that there's three new franchise come in. I think Dylan
Speaker 2: Brown will be pinched by a new franchise, will become
Speaker 2: a one point two million dollar players somewhere.
Speaker 1: Well, you have a look at when his options are
Speaker 1: coming up us next year around ten, he has to
Speaker 1: advise him the next one, he's twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: What's happening around twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 2: Expension sides they're leaderless too. I think they're leaderless.
Speaker 3: I think it's a big job for Jason.
Speaker 2: Ryan is at the moment, you know, just.
Speaker 3: Treating what everyone in that organization is trading water to
Speaker 3: get to the end of the year. And they hoping
Speaker 3: that come November one or whenever they resume pre season
Speaker 3: training and it's going to start a fresh whether or
Speaker 3: not it works like that or not, that's the hope there.
Speaker 2: But look at their body language meet compared to the Bulldogs.
Speaker 2: Just look at it.
Speaker 3: Look at it compared to Sourseuse's souse in a similar
Speaker 3: situation to the way Paramatta were in terms of the
Speaker 3: coach gone, interim coach, senior players out of form, and
Speaker 3: look what Ben harm has been able to do and
Speaker 3: turn that and the response from the senior players, right,
Speaker 3: the response hasn't been there from Paramatta senior players.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know what upsets me as an
Speaker 1: Eels fan is that, like you said, me, maybe the
Speaker 1: twenty two Grand Final sugar coated some things for them,
Speaker 1: But there was a bit of a gap there between
Speaker 1: that Grand Final and this talent coming through because, to
Speaker 1: Paramatter's credit, a decade ago they identified that their pathways
Speaker 1: were stuffed, they were not developing.
Speaker 3: There was no Tim Manners.
Speaker 1: You know, Tim Madder was the last Paramatta Bred origin
Speaker 1: player to come through.
Speaker 3: Before that, it was you know, the likes of Hayne
Speaker 3: and Copine and in Matao, all these guys that were
Speaker 3: a good cross player. And we've seen guys drip through.
Speaker 1: Will Penssin he's been good, Sean Russell's been okay coming through,
Speaker 1: but this was the golden generator. This is this was
Speaker 1: their group that was going to be the first of
Speaker 1: many to pump through. Because when you're looking across the
Speaker 1: road and seeing what Penwrith are doing going, well, we've
Speaker 1: got that north West Sydney area there, why aren't we
Speaker 1: doing the same thing and these guys are the next
Speaker 1: big things and we're.
Speaker 3: In crucial positions. Yeah too. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1: I've seen fans come and criticize and say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Blaze Tlangy, Missus Tackles, he's not that great, they're eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about keeping these guys. What are they
Speaker 3: going to be when they're twenty four to twenty five?
Speaker 2: You know, they missed tackles, Cantering missed more tackles than anyone.
Speaker 2: They're so hungry, so feel that they cover for each other.
Speaker 1: Ye And look, I think these guys were rushed in
Speaker 1: the first grade before they were ready this year because
Speaker 1: of the drama at Paramatta with injuries and whatever else.
Speaker 1: But they were getting experienced, so this year was a
Speaker 1: right off. But if you had them there going forward,
Speaker 1: and there's a good bunch of kids coming through now
Speaker 1: in that group that you have to wonder.
Speaker 3: What's tell you?
Speaker 2: What I find incredible is Jason Ryles didn't take on
Speaker 2: the Saint Georgia Lawarra job because Saint Georgia Lawarre in
Speaker 2: a position that paramattis now in. And I know I
Speaker 2: back the power Junior system. But it's a similar ship Sandwich,
Speaker 2: isn't it. It's just is Yeah, it.
Speaker 3: Is similar to the one that shame fun again inherited.
Speaker 3: I'd argue that the roster of Paramatters willbly be better,
Speaker 3: because yeah, it better. Well, you've got to have a
Speaker 3: look at the roster. Well you have a look at
Speaker 3: better than the Dragon's ross. Well you've got Mitch Moses. Sorry,
Speaker 3: like I'm talking about the squad. We're not talking about
Speaker 3: the one to seventeen here, We're talking about their roster
Speaker 3: as a whole.
Speaker 2: Well, Mitchell mooson Ben Hunt can nearly.
Speaker 3: Cancel each other, can not.
Speaker 2: It's not even say your bagging Ben Hunt now compared
Speaker 2: to Mitchell Moses, aren't you? The blaker said, can Canberra
Speaker 2: run us?
Speaker 3: Have you seen? I said bottom four?
Speaker 2: And whether I'm going to go back and get the tape?
Speaker 3: I said bottom four?
Speaker 2: I got some pretty powerful tech guys.
Speaker 3: I didn't they going to How many teams have got
Speaker 3: running last? By the way, does everyone think I've got
Speaker 3: everyone coming last? It's a good it's a good running
Speaker 3: gag at the moment. But if Mitch Moses, please, But
Speaker 3: my point is.
Speaker 1: What's disappointing about this is what I think beIN Hunt
Speaker 1: is a great player.
Speaker 3: Mitch Moses is far superior to Ben Hunt. Is he
Speaker 3: fast superior? You disagree? Currently? Yeah, currently we're judging on
Speaker 3: right now, Mitch Moses on the open, I can get someone.
Speaker 3: Dragons were playing one point five million dollars.
Speaker 2: What are they playing? Ben Hunt?
Speaker 3: Million dollars at the moment?
Speaker 1: There you go and see what annoys me about this
Speaker 1: with Paramatta?
Speaker 2: Just who would rather brown or gold? Brown? Thank you?
Speaker 3: Yes, you're you're conceding my point.
Speaker 2: Look, I've forgot what your point is.
Speaker 3: You mate?
Speaker 2: You you obviously aren't getting enough sleep at the two
Speaker 2: barbs excuse me? And you are all over the shop.
Speaker 1: Mom, move this thing a moment, aren't you.
Speaker 3: I'm not. Let's move on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, be respectful.
Speaker 1: So my issue with this, when we're talking about Paramount
Speaker 1: being at such a lower eb at the moment, is
Speaker 1: because they've now got these pathways and all that, they
Speaker 1: should be in a better position when they were going
Speaker 1: like bustards ten years ago, when they were getting spoons.
Speaker 1: Things are an absolute mess. Things shouldn't be a mess now.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be in this position.
Speaker 2: So I'm saying to mate, So you head of football,
Speaker 2: it's the chairman, it's the board, it's the CEO. They
Speaker 2: are running the football operation. And when things fall over
Speaker 2: the way they have this year and the best kids
Speaker 2: they've have emerged for years ago walk out. You've got
Speaker 2: to make changes to the board. If I was Shawn macklduff, seriously,
Speaker 2: you'd put your hand up and just go. You really would.
Speaker 2: He's the chair of the club.
Speaker 3: It's there in a hole.
Speaker 2: The system has fallen over under his watch. They're in
Speaker 2: a massive home membership can't get to win because there's
Speaker 2: a brick wall that's gone up.
Speaker 3: Most clubs are like that, but now most clubs are
Speaker 3: like that. It's very hard to to get onto boards or.
Speaker 2: Top of board hold on. No one's going as outside
Speaker 2: of the West Tigers as bad as Power.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not defending them us and the players that
Speaker 3: they've got locked in long term aside side from Mitchell
Speaker 3: Moses right or the rest of them, if they hit
Speaker 3: the open market, their value would be a fraction of
Speaker 3: what they're except for Mitch Moses. Mitch Moses could command
Speaker 3: essentially what he wanted to on the open market, right.
Speaker 3: And I'm including Dylan Brown, And Dylan Brown's on money
Speaker 3: this year and he hasn't been great, and we saw
Speaker 3: not at all.
Speaker 2: And we saw when the finals last year when he
Speaker 2: played up and got suspended for eight boys. You look
Speaker 2: at the rest of those finals, the.
Speaker 3: Rest of those players who would earn more money than
Speaker 3: what they're on exited from Mitch Moses potentially.
Speaker 1: Will Pensini potentially, but not much else because we'retten. Kim
Speaker 1: mcgillard and Junior Barla are on massive coin.
Speaker 3: Charlaine Ryan, Madison, Hopwood probably maybe hop Goood, Yeah, give
Speaker 3: you that. But they have resigned him so with a boost.
Speaker 3: But he would have been the man in the open
Speaker 3: markets he looked until now. He did a couple more years,
Speaker 3: so two more, maybe three more. I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 2: This question next week on your outfit, and I'm just
Speaker 2: looking at it. I'm gonna yeah, sorry, I just looked.
Speaker 2: I couldn't help himself go with it.
Speaker 3: I got a question for you.
Speaker 1: You reported that Paramatta would not wave the ten day
Speaker 1: calling off period. Are they intending on trying to convince
Speaker 1: a backflip out of Blaze to LUNGI?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think it's just a matter
Speaker 3: of frustration. We've seen it. So the reason Penrith haven't
Speaker 3: come out and formally announced anything as a fact that technically,
Speaker 3: under the NRL rules they can't sign or formally sign
Speaker 3: a contract or the contract isn't valid until the ten
Speaker 3: day calling off period unless clubs wave the ten day
Speaker 3: calling off period, and we've seen that a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Penrith have done that with a few players that have
Speaker 3: left the club, but the Eels have opted against it.
Speaker 3: That's why Penrith aren't saying anything at the moment. But
Speaker 3: he'll be at the Panthers next year for the next
Speaker 3: three years. Three years, so three year deal for Blaze
Speaker 3: to join and his younger brother right may join him
Speaker 3: at some point too.
Speaker 1: It was also of contract. What do you think of
Speaker 1: calling him the Traboyevitch is a paramount.
Speaker 2: They're not the Traboys just yet, but they're potentially.
Speaker 3: There is paramount as paramatic can be. Cabramatta Junior is
Speaker 3: the dad coach is there? It's just yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Fans. Any hope we've we've I think we've divoded enough
Speaker 2: of my podcast to your club.
Speaker 3: Do we just get any Give them any hope? Moms,
Speaker 3: you of what something a matter time soon. Charlie Geimer
Speaker 3: was great in his inerial debut.
Speaker 1: He's part of that street ball team, seem Touvardi, Saxon PreK,
Speaker 1: Richard Penasini. He gets back from injury. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not it's not your spine all right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. You got that didn't help me at all?
Speaker 2: Are we've been too sensible?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably, well apart from we have to you have to
Speaker 1: balance it out when the when the outfit's not sensible.
Speaker 3: That mix got on.
Speaker 2: We're infotainment, they call it what they call it, so
Speaker 2: we give information entertained and we're talent.
Speaker 3: Allen doesn't iron. Talent doesn't iron. That was your best
Speaker 3: line ever on this podcast. I saw your suit last
Speaker 3: night on three.
Speaker 2: Sixty free suit, no wonder, he doesn't make canty gets
Speaker 2: eating for free?
Speaker 3: Hello tax man. I don't get to keep it.
Speaker 2: I just leave it there for blow me count the
Speaker 2: other day because I said to him, can I claim
Speaker 2: dry cleaning as I am talent on a show? Yes,
Speaker 2: and need to look the part. Wouldn't let me, wouldn't
Speaker 2: ley you? I said, it's a uniform, Yes, I must
Speaker 2: wear a neatly pressed suit and shirt. He said no
Speaker 2: justification for that, or just said I can't wow. What
Speaker 2: do you your stuff? What do you spend a week?
Speaker 2: I'd bake chances, an arm and a leg up at
Speaker 2: coming back.
Speaker 3: Him. The other big news this where Brian, what is
Speaker 3: going on? Mick Well obviously the rumbling starter during Origin camp.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. And it's not you know,
Speaker 3: people have well, I guess doubts in his mind or
Speaker 3: the fact that he got to hang out with his
Speaker 3: mates again. Right, And this is not to disparage his
Speaker 3: relationship with the current players at the Panthers, but there's
Speaker 3: no doubt his closest friends. His four groomsmen at his
Speaker 3: wedding were Taruva, Lenu, Criyton and Loui. Okay, there were
Speaker 3: four groovesmen and the only and he'll be the only
Speaker 3: one there next year.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So and he's seen what the players have left the
Speaker 3: Panthers been able to achieve and how happy they are.
Speaker 1: And the lot of the West Tigers in Canterbury at
Speaker 1: the moment, are they well, no.
Speaker 3: One at the Tigers yet they're not at the Tigers. Louis, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but Crichton's gone good.
Speaker 2: But why did you sign for four years? He was
Speaker 2: the first one of them, He was the first He
Speaker 2: signed for four years because he probably thought that they'd
Speaker 2: all take dirty about his money.
Speaker 3: Well, how can you be dirty on his money when
Speaker 3: he's the highest paid when you're in the game it's
Speaker 3: six one hundred and fifty have been a surprise?
Speaker 2: Does he not read the rich one hundred every year?
Speaker 3: But he's the highest paid when you're in the game, right,
Speaker 3: I know, like you've got the matter happened.
Speaker 2: What would happen if the club went to him and said, look,
Speaker 2: you signed for six fifty, you've had a bad couple
Speaker 2: of years. Will knock you down to fourred.
Speaker 3: Because clubs can't do a good.
Speaker 2: Deal manager and all this, they were advised him to
Speaker 2: sign for four years. Why didn't he sign for two
Speaker 2: and then?
Speaker 3: But it's a good it's a good money deal. But
Speaker 3: it's a good money it's a good money deal because
Speaker 3: you know, on the open market, what could Brian to
Speaker 3: I had this argument last night, right, I don't think
Speaker 3: he's going to get colleagues.
Speaker 2: Fox went and looked at his quotes. When he resigned,
Speaker 2: he talked about what a proud moment it was twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two. He spoke at thank the club for giving
Speaker 2: him this opportunity. And now all of a sudden he's
Speaker 2: played Origin, he's won a couple of titles, and he's
Speaker 2: not as proud of me. You know, I don't like this.
Speaker 3: I don't like it either. I'm not I'm not saying
Speaker 3: it's a it's a good looking to do, but I
Speaker 3: just don't think it's all about money because Penrith have
Speaker 3: given him a good deal. They've given him a good deal,
Speaker 3: they haven't short changed him. He's worth essentially what he's
Speaker 3: on And you know people will say, well, what about
Speaker 3: Zachlimax Sacklomax's deal was signed as a fullback, right, so
Speaker 3: that's a false economy. Valentine Holmes's deal will signed as
Speaker 3: a fullback. Nick Kotri the other. He is the highest
Speaker 3: pay winging the game. This year. He was signed on
Speaker 3: that long term deal as a center to go to
Speaker 3: Canada with Canterbury. Canterbury is still subsidizing and this is
Speaker 3: the final year of his deal this year, so but
Speaker 3: next year he's the highest paid when you're in the game.
Speaker 2: But you know, you talk about all the groomsmen, they're
Speaker 2: all different clubs, so wherever he goes, they're not going
Speaker 2: to but the ones at bow Main, ones at Roosters,
Speaker 2: Spencer Lane, who weren't a couple of them at Canterbury.
Speaker 3: Where I get I get that, I do get that, But.
Speaker 2: It's if you're what you're saying is right, and would
Speaker 2: suggest internally at Penrith it's not quite as happy as
Speaker 2: it is a racket because the football they play, in
Speaker 2: the way they celebrate, I.
Speaker 3: Think there's not a division there. I'm not there's not
Speaker 3: a division there. It's just the fact that when he
Speaker 3: looks around, like in any workplace, money, in any workplace,
Speaker 3: or any school or whatever the case, you've got thirty
Speaker 3: people in a room, you're going to be closer with
Speaker 3: a pocket of people. And that's all it is.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that pocket. He can't go
Speaker 2: and join.
Speaker 3: That if he's if he's well, you can join elements
Speaker 3: of it. But if he's on six hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars next to your buzz, what can he get
Speaker 3: on the open market?
Speaker 2: Look clubs that properly manage salary caps like Melbourne Storm
Speaker 2: and the Roosters and you know the Powerhouse. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: he's on the right money, so he can't be about
Speaker 2: money then well no, because Peraps is riding that West
Speaker 2: Tigers should pay a million a year.
Speaker 3: I know that's what he's I know that's what he's riding,
Speaker 3: and that's what people have suggested that's desperate. Okay, if
Speaker 3: anyone and this is no disrespect to Brian, but if
Speaker 3: anyone pays Brian to on more than seven hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars, they're not managing their cat properly and
Speaker 3: they're going to be in the If it's the West
Speaker 3: Tigers that do it, or whatever the case may be,
Speaker 3: they're going to be in the same cycle that has
Speaker 3: plagued them for the last couple of years. So for mine,
Speaker 3: it can't be about money. It can't slowly be about
Speaker 3: money because he's on a good If it was on
Speaker 3: four hundred, you could get seven hundred and seven fifty elsewhere.
Speaker 3: I get that right, But he's on six fifties. High
Speaker 3: paid player in the game, pay winging in the game.
Speaker 2: I'm a bit critical of managers and this too, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to write something on Sunday. The manager advised
Speaker 2: him to sign for four.
Speaker 3: Years, so it was a good deal. Didn't do to.
Speaker 2: And say let's you know, you might be better, Let's
Speaker 2: do another too. So the player, if it is money,
Speaker 2: says I could have done better. Well, he complaints to
Speaker 2: the club. What about the block ko advised him to
Speaker 2: sign it.
Speaker 3: But it's a good deal, buzz, He's got a good deal.
Speaker 2: Well, but me, I think we've established that money must
Speaker 2: be some part of.
Speaker 3: It must be a did he run with.
Speaker 2: Zach laimax or they all had separate rams and lack
Speaker 2: sax on A stupid girl for a winger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight hundred, but it's not comparable. But next year
Speaker 3: that doesn't earn that much money paramount.
Speaker 2: It's quite amazing.
Speaker 3: Still. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if he's going to miss his mates
Speaker 1: over the road, I mean, doesn't I pick and stick guy?
Speaker 1: So seventeen years here your forty seven.
Speaker 2: Forty plate forty nine in.
Speaker 1: February February, So when you came across from the Herald,
Speaker 1: did you miss your mates? Did they want to come
Speaker 1: join you?
Speaker 2: Mate? Let's not go to your lack of loyalty. You
Speaker 2: started at the Leader, then you went to the.
Speaker 3: Same company, So that's going through a reserve rate the
Speaker 3: first grade.
Speaker 2: Then we threw a few extra bad I couldn't run
Speaker 2: fast enough.
Speaker 3: And if they threw a few, bob the other way
Speaker 3: and be.
Speaker 2: Gone, then you joined. Then you joined, and then you
Speaker 2: joined Fox Sports. And may loyalty ain't your strong point?
Speaker 3: I had it on my go on Triple and on Saturday.
Speaker 1: I.
Speaker 2: Can't. I made a mistake. I got on and I
Speaker 2: announced myself as the oldest debutant ever.
Speaker 3: Which you practice. I had to go giggle at that.
Speaker 3: I didn't practice, and that came to you, he thought
Speaker 3: about all the way in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking what am I even doing it?
Speaker 2: But then the producer sent me a message that Kerry
Speaker 2: O Keith was sixty eight.
Speaker 3: Carry okay George's own.
Speaker 1: Yes, there was a little bit of banter, but in
Speaker 1: the three well between the two of you and interesting mix,
Speaker 1: said a very motivational message to Buzz at about twelve
Speaker 1: o two pm on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Don't up so I have a listener. Bars switched over
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 2: I'm a chemistry man. I need to settle into a
Speaker 2: tune in on radio. And first up with Tony and
Speaker 2: Wade and Ryan Girdle and Brisbane. It's not as comfortable
Speaker 2: sitting here with you two, you know, like we bagged
Speaker 2: the tripe out of each other and now it's a
Speaker 2: jury up and same with three sixty your company. So
Speaker 2: you can't just march in. I am reasoning now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only reason when Gordy gives me a desk there.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. Still, I'm glad there's a camera, yes, so,
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, it takes time to chemistry.
Speaker 3: Are you back on this Saturday? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I bet you're going to bang. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: We're going to get to listeners questions at some point.
Speaker 3: But it's ahow that you had struggle with a live
Speaker 3: read on Sunday too.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about, Carlos Piles? Are you serious?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 2: And Garlic told me there's not a pie left.
Speaker 3: I was just I wasn't listening.
Speaker 2: But that's very good. I've got freaking respect.
Speaker 1: I want to move on to this. I want to
Speaker 1: on the back of the Brian conversation. I want to have
Speaker 1: a discussion about the highest paid player versus the best
Speaker 1: player in their position, because I want to see if
Speaker 1: clubs are spending in the right areas or if Braith
Speaker 1: and Asta, James Hooper and Gordon tell us a right
Speaker 1: and you should be spending a million bucks a year
Speaker 1: on Brian.
Speaker 3: You were one out on that one last night, had
Speaker 3: no support a million Well, they started at me in Onday.
Speaker 3: I got him down to nine hundred last night.
Speaker 1: I texted him some support last night. He just turned
Speaker 1: around and bagged you and me.
Speaker 2: I'll go and replay it. I will use my triple
Speaker 2: to come back.
Speaker 3: I said, you're arguing with idiots. He goes, Yah, I
Speaker 3: do the same on Thursday. I didn't see that. I
Speaker 3: jumped back. I said, I'm on bloody brain.
Speaker 1: Get the text off yet, right, Okay, So I want
Speaker 1: to see if you agree that these guys as highest
Speaker 1: paid in the game are the best players. If not,
Speaker 1: who is and why so? Kle and Ponger top of
Speaker 1: out rich one.
Speaker 3: Hundred best full back in the game?
Speaker 2: No, no Dealan Edwards?
Speaker 3: Is Dylan Edwards?
Speaker 2: Pong's in the top three? You know what? I've had
Speaker 2: Reche walshly slip out of the top three. I think
Speaker 2: he's been disappointing. My top three would be after Dylan
Speaker 2: would be Teddy and Ponger in the Tommy Tommy is
Speaker 2: sort of oh yeah, Tommy. Tommy hasn't had a great year.
Speaker 3: That hasn't.
Speaker 2: But we're talking current form.
Speaker 1: Do you think opposition teams targeting Rethe Walsh through his size.
Speaker 1: I know Queensland and Brisbane complaining about him getting bashed
Speaker 1: out of the game, but he's definitely been targeted.
Speaker 2: I think people are working him out a little better
Speaker 2: that Sweetpee does, and they're more you know. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I think he's dropped out of the top three at
Speaker 2: this stage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're basing at if what's the critter just
Speaker 3: formed this year? Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 2: So we agree Edwards just the man schedules.
Speaker 3: What's on about fifty I think is his new deal.
Speaker 3: He's almost what's callan at one point four. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a significant difference.
Speaker 2: Good cat management by Penrith.
Speaker 3: They do a good job there and they're not spending
Speaker 3: million winger.
Speaker 1: Speaking of wingers, Brian toe top as far as a
Speaker 1: had a wingers price, which this is my argument that
Speaker 1: he is signed as a winger.
Speaker 3: I played the game like we're excluding Lomax and the
Speaker 3: next one. Yeah. Yeah, Bryan's our best winger in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with that, comforting with what he's earning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I don't see it as clear as you.
Speaker 2: I'd probably put him there fade out. I love zab
Speaker 2: coats in the air. He can return kicks, he can
Speaker 2: you know that, divey scot.
Speaker 3: So just I just love his meat eaters and he's.
Speaker 2: Finishing gosh coach spectacular.
Speaker 3: That Coats is awesome and he's.
Speaker 2: Got the Queens saying go roll. That was part of it.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a good player. But yeah, for mine,
Speaker 3: Tom very comfortable with.
Speaker 1: And even if you included Zach Lamax. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: massive money for a winger. But it's having a very
Speaker 1: good year.
Speaker 3: It's having a very very well, he's having a great
Speaker 3: He's probably last post origin, probably hasn't had the same
Speaker 3: impact that he had in the first half of the
Speaker 3: seas is, but yeah, i'd have Brian Todd there.
Speaker 2: Well, what about Center Vale Home?
Speaker 3: So this is an interesting one because we've gone back
Speaker 3: and talking about he's signers on fullback money. Well, the
Speaker 3: other one would be Joey Marner is the best center
Speaker 3: in the game.
Speaker 2: For mine, I am going to argue with you about
Speaker 2: Joey Marner. I think Stephen Crichton is the best center
Speaker 2: in the game. And if I was doing a top
Speaker 2: ten of Rugby league players, I'd have Crichton in the
Speaker 2: top five.
Speaker 3: I can't argue with that either the way he's been going,
Speaker 3: only because Joey has had his best season with injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's and the influence that he has vow hasn't
Speaker 3: had a good year at all whatsoever, So he's definitely
Speaker 3: not a form player in that position. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: think Buzz, that was.
Speaker 2: A good story you broke on vo getting permission.
Speaker 1: Would you sign Voal a few of the Dragons for
Speaker 1: the right price of wood because he covered, he takes
Speaker 1: a lot of what they need, center, fullback, goalkicker.
Speaker 3: Did he want to play fullback?
Speaker 2: It? I think so. I think he'd liked to have
Speaker 2: his I don't think he sees himself as a winger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't know if he's twenty nine, whether or.
Speaker 2: Not he's he's not as good a player as he
Speaker 2: used to be. No good player.
Speaker 3: He hasn't been great this year. But if i'm the
Speaker 3: Dragons for what they need, definitely signing him. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: just get no.
Speaker 1: I said this on Monday's podcast that I get the
Speaker 1: feeling that if this is one of those four year
Speaker 1: deals on big money that eyes play then pay, then
Speaker 1: you think, oh what are we doing the last two?
Speaker 1: But anyway, quick question is Stephen Crichton, would he be
Speaker 1: the highest paid center now with I still.
Speaker 3: Think Joey Mine who's probably got him, just I think, well,
Speaker 3: we'll cry. I think fifty year it might be a deal,
Speaker 3: but actually still a good deal. Can I backtrack and
Speaker 3: go with buzz on this one? You won me over.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. There's a key we Joey Marner palm in
Speaker 2: the Dolphins boy if Farnworth mm hm and played for
Speaker 2: he's a Samot one three non Kangaroos.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Five eighth camera monster. No, well you can't this year
Speaker 3: based on injury, you know, the peak of his powers
Speaker 3: yet best five eight in the game. I think Jerome
Speaker 3: Wi has been outstanding this year.
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm getting scared twice.
Speaker 3: Agreed, but you turned me on the last one.
Speaker 2: Ja. Yeah, he's the He should on what he's done
Speaker 2: this year, should be the highest paid, and he will
Speaker 2: nearly be next year.
Speaker 3: I think he'll be seven next year though, he'll be
Speaker 3: in that number seven, but of course he'll be competing
Speaker 3: against the next guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 3: So how do you judge him? Right, he's easily he's
Speaker 3: the best player in the game. Missed lots through injury,
Speaker 3: didn't win Origin for the Blues, the best. He's the
Speaker 3: best player in the game for Mine's not.
Speaker 2: That far behind him. My view this year or there's
Speaker 2: one this year. He's actually had a better year than clearly,
Speaker 2: which is Jerome Hughes massive year. So we're doing it
Speaker 2: on this year. But with Cleary.
Speaker 3: It's so hard not to right. But Jerame has been
Speaker 3: the best half back this year. Yeah, played and like,
Speaker 3: how what do you got him in.
Speaker 2: Your rich list?
Speaker 3: I don't have it on the top of my head.
Speaker 3: He'd be edging a meal now. Yeah, but yeah, he's
Speaker 3: been outstanding this year, buzz. But Cleary played one game
Speaker 3: You'll still be like, how can he played that one game?
Speaker 1: And against the Dolphins and he was a little bit
Speaker 1: clunky finding himself.
Speaker 3: And then just last.
Speaker 1: Week you would have thought he'd been playing consistent forty
Speaker 1: for three months. The way he performed unbelievable.
Speaker 2: He wins ce daly m they've done a Jerame Hughes,
Speaker 2: he shure think so.
Speaker 1: I think so, prop Adam Fanel Blake, buzz. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you can't wait to get him a cronellin next year.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look at the moment, i'd probably have Fisher, Harris, Spencer, Leaner,
Speaker 2: Payne hass. I don't think Fanilla Blake again, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't think Fisher Harris was great to start this year.
Speaker 2: Either, what about Spencer and has.
Speaker 3: Been outstanding and paint Hass has been outstanding. Yeah, they'd
Speaker 3: be the two for mine, ahead of Phenol Black. Fenol
Speaker 3: Black glimpses again of his elite talent, but you know,
Speaker 3: hasn't had that consistency that we've seen from the last
Speaker 3: couple of years. I think Fisher Harris probably hasn't met
Speaker 3: at his best either this year to start the year.
Speaker 3: It's better. I think it is a great player has
Speaker 3: been outstanding. Controversial take.
Speaker 1: I think Fanila Blake has more impact on games than
Speaker 1: paint Hass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of his footwork and his ability to.
Speaker 2: I would but Payne Hass was sensational and Origin three.
Speaker 3: It's more consistent. But if we're talking highlight real plays
Speaker 3: for Blake has more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got I'm just looking at the highlights of
Speaker 1: paynehas thinking why the Broncos going with the going? But anyway,
Speaker 1: second row, so David forfeeda Tobo Harris still on a
Speaker 1: big contract in the final the final year or.
Speaker 2: This an easy run from Angus Crichton.
Speaker 3: Tick, no debate. I think it's crying outstanding.
Speaker 2: Billy kick out in the argument he was Sensation last
Speaker 2: first ten rounds.
Speaker 3: And started the year in reserve grade. That's crazy to think,
Speaker 3: isn't it. We alongside Connor Watson.
Speaker 2: And he couldn't get a run in Vegas? Didn't he
Speaker 2: go to Vegas?
Speaker 3: Kind of? Watson played reserve grade the next week while
Speaker 3: the RUSS had that week off because of from Vegas
Speaker 3: out at St. Mary's. Whoever they played?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And who coaches the Ruses there?
Speaker 3: Brett Morris?
Speaker 2: Do we need to give Brett Morris.
Speaker 1: And forgetting an origin back roller bout.
Speaker 2: He's send him back ready to play? Didn't he didn't he?
Speaker 3: Just?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: What about Locke?
Speaker 1: This is You've got Cameron Murray, Jake Traboyovich, and Jason
Speaker 1: Tamalala all around that same coin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have any of those as the form
Speaker 3: locks of He has been Carrigan, Yeah, probably Patrick Carrigan
Speaker 3: just ahead of at the moment, you know they haven't.
Speaker 3: Murray has been injured a little bit, which hurts obviously,
Speaker 3: so I would have Carrigan just ahead of you.
Speaker 1: Has been playing prop and off the bench. I mean
Speaker 1: it's still middle, so I still work and obviously Jake's
Speaker 1: Jake just assuming keeps getting the job done and hooker.
Speaker 3: So does Harry Grant with his new deal, go to.
Speaker 1: The number one highest paid hooker this season, ahead of
Speaker 1: his former teammate Brandon Smith. There and work all these
Speaker 1: going through the I think hooker one of the most
Speaker 1: under represented positions in that rich one hundred.
Speaker 3: It's that surprised me.
Speaker 2: So yeah, do you should be on more.
Speaker 3: Now? I'm not saying anyone the form hooker of the competition.
Speaker 3: I don't think Harry has had an exceptional season. I
Speaker 3: don't think Brandon's had an exception there. So has read
Speaker 3: many been the best hooker this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Him and Robson Reece, Robson.
Speaker 3: Wade Egan if he stays on the field like he's
Speaker 3: just had to interrupted for Wade, you know, I just
Speaker 3: I think Jeremy Marshall started, you know.
Speaker 2: And he turns out was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we keep sleeping on happy when he just he
Speaker 3: keeps producing weeks Cookie at South Yeah, that's probably the
Speaker 3: hardest one to pick, maybe say Reid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I definitely Marshall King was.
Speaker 3: Michael King was outstanding for the Dolphins earlier.
Speaker 2: But now I'll tell you he's playing hooker now for
Speaker 2: Max plas a great Max Plats is a good play
Speaker 2: having great season found utility.
Speaker 1: I think from what Reed Marny went through last year
Speaker 1: to how he's producing this season, this is the Reed
Speaker 1: Marney that we saw at parap and.
Speaker 2: I reckon he's twice as good a player as he
Speaker 2: was at Para, well a little bit more. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his roles explided, hasn't it, And he's taken it both.
Speaker 2: I noticed he's dropped off a little bit with his
Speaker 2: chatter the last few weeks after that's the opposition.
Speaker 3: The players are just ignoring a bit better. I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 3: but he doesn't.
Speaker 1: I did hear a little rumor that a certain Daily
Speaker 1: Telegraph reporter who was on three sixty on Tuesday night
Speaker 1: it might have been a little concerned because he was
Speaker 1: in the green room. It was meant to be in
Speaker 1: the green room the same time as Reid Marney, and
Speaker 1: he might have written a column that was maybe not
Speaker 1: too complimentary about Reed Marny.
Speaker 2: Sam you called his column bulldog's bite, and I guess
Speaker 2: when you call a column bite, you got to bite.
Speaker 2: And he just smashes inappropriate some of his commentary.
Speaker 3: Mixed Segment Listener questions. This is from Peter. Do you
Speaker 3: remember the first player you ever interviewed? And who was it?
Speaker 3: Buddy Moty third player.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I did. I was here late
Speaker 2: at night as a copy boy and one of the
Speaker 2: journals left his contact book on the table and I
Speaker 2: went flicking.
Speaker 3: Through it and I got a story on that too.
Speaker 2: And I South had a big game on that week,
Speaker 2: and Gary Stevens was doing the news, so I pinched
Speaker 2: Gary Stephens and I rang him. I said, oh, garyot's
Speaker 2: Phil Field from the Telegraph. How are you? He said,
Speaker 2: who the telly? I'm given Bill and he's hand.
Speaker 3: I have a question. That so neurvous when I when
Speaker 3: I left the Leader, I might have taken some phone
Speaker 3: numbers out of a colleagues phone book.
Speaker 2: I knew would have interviewed Football's leader, wouldn't.
Speaker 3: You, heaps? Yeah, my first one that the first I
Speaker 3: did a year six school project on the Dragons and
Speaker 3: I interviewed Johnny Raper and Lee Murphy really so to
Speaker 3: contrasting sort of careers there. But Johnny Rape used to
Speaker 3: come into mum's work or something and she lined it
Speaker 3: up for me, and then Lee Murphy came to my
Speaker 3: kins cults presentation. So I got Dad to go back
Speaker 3: home and get the video camera and I'd love to
Speaker 3: see that footage if it ever existed. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what about you?
Speaker 1: Well, when I was still at UNI in two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, I was working in a little paper called
Speaker 1: The Valley of Voice in Canberra, little community thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was in Manarica there, and I was walking down
Speaker 1: the street to grab coffees because I was sent for
Speaker 1: the coffee run. I walked past Anthony Munday and his
Speaker 1: dad I was sitting down there with remember Brian Clark,
Speaker 1: the old attic boss, and they was sitting there having
Speaker 1: a coffee, and so I just Jesus may as well,
Speaker 1: walked up, introduced myself. I said, hey, do you mind
Speaker 1: when you're done if we could have a chat. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind having an interview. And Chock said, Bra, we've
Speaker 1: got something going on. Come see me in twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: So I went back upstairs told the editor, who said,
Speaker 1: what are you going to ask? I said, I've got
Speaker 1: no idea. So I got my notepad, went down and
Speaker 1: sat down with chopping hard.
Speaker 3: And you would mean like so nervous to approaching right,
Speaker 3: But how nice was he oh, best bloke in the world, and.
Speaker 1: All three of them were terrific, and I said, whatever
Speaker 1: else you need and yeah, will never forget that.
Speaker 3: Terrific is always always good to me. When I was
Speaker 3: at the Leader Chock and that was when I was
Speaker 3: the peak of his hours, you know, win Stadium, wind Sock.
Speaker 3: I heard all these names linked to Flano, Safiti, Homes, Lodge, Takiyaho.
Speaker 3: Are there any of them going to actually happen? I
Speaker 3: haven't heard of Takyaho linked to the Dragons.
Speaker 2: The isn't he lame as well?
Speaker 3: He's had a year. I haven't played a game of
Speaker 3: foota this year.
Speaker 2: And I think he played four or five. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Saint George needs to be doing a bit
Speaker 2: better than that.
Speaker 3: Lodge is no Holmes is a maybe Daniel Seferti. I'm
Speaker 3: still not as convinced that he'll end up at the Dragon.
Speaker 3: You buzzy.
Speaker 2: They haven't trouble with track done a good player, aren't they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably been more difficult than I think they
Speaker 3: all thought. M hmm.
Speaker 2: When signed everyone at Cornala, he had Gal go along
Speaker 2: with him and Gal was the new South Wales captain.
Speaker 2: And then when he got wide, and then Ernes could
Speaker 2: see that it's.
Speaker 3: He hasn't been able to do that, hasn't been able
Speaker 3: to to get that big fish to attract the others
Speaker 3: power legends. Just wondering why to so many people not
Speaker 3: rate the Sharks at all. Have been constantly around the
Speaker 3: top four since Fitzkimmon took over.
Speaker 2: No X factor simple. Dave Rick wrote recently, you need
Speaker 2: four point nine origin players to win a camp good story.
Speaker 2: They don't have an origin player.
Speaker 3: They had two mckinnison.
Speaker 2: For one game, which was up belted in.
Speaker 3: Viewed as a soft draw.
Speaker 1: And I haven't made it past week two of the
Speaker 1: finals yet, so he's got.
Speaker 2: To get over that final underfits agree there's no X
Speaker 2: factor there.
Speaker 3: I think the the X facts that will come next
Speaker 3: to him. For Blake, I think they're four I was
Speaker 3: created or their four. I just thought they were a
Speaker 3: bit the same same. Royce Han's been good since the
Speaker 3: sort of test of the market and it has provided
Speaker 3: a point of difference.
Speaker 2: But played near down last week. Yeah, didn't get didn't
Speaker 2: take the towns, and I think he'd been crook and
Speaker 2: then he came good and they kept him down.
Speaker 3: Here Ryan one teams like South so desperately in need
Speaker 3: for middles and not going after players like Stefano salary
Speaker 3: cap Ryan. I think they're the full brim. And when
Speaker 3: there was talk around John Bateman going to Souse next
Speaker 3: year and South like, well, if you want to come
Speaker 3: from minimum age, we can take him because we don't
Speaker 3: have a dollar left in our cap.
Speaker 2: Essentially, even Wayne's kind of struggle them with their current
Speaker 2: front row. But the last time I bagged the club
Speaker 2: about lack of front row depths was the Bulldogs. You know,
Speaker 2: we all said it, too many utilities snow front Now
Speaker 2: half look at them?
Speaker 3: Look at them all right? Some emails from data are
Speaker 3: all the grounds the same dimension or some of the
Speaker 3: suburban grounds a little skinnier? Win Stadium and Brookie have
Speaker 3: noticed the game seems a little compressed compared to the
Speaker 3: big stadiums. Is this an illusion or what's going on
Speaker 3: their buzz.
Speaker 2: The field? I didn't do my homework there. I think
Speaker 2: they're all the same size. I haven't heard there night.
Speaker 2: I think the crowd's been closed.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes the sidelines closer to the defence of
Speaker 3: what it is and the dead ball line. There was
Speaker 3: a time when the dead ball lines are all different
Speaker 3: as well, but now we.
Speaker 1: Make COMBA, they're very close to the sideline there too.
Speaker 3: You know, Buzz, there's some homer for you for next week.
Speaker 3: Then Buzz will come back to you, David Mark, Can
Speaker 3: you or Buzz explain why the last three Grand Finals
Speaker 3: Grand finalists Robbert, o Ils and Broncos have fallen off
Speaker 3: a cliff.
Speaker 2: They're called hangovers. And I read Andrew Johnson's column today
Speaker 2: in Arrival newspaper. I'm not sure if you guys did.
Speaker 2: He spoke of the Broncos hangover and said similar stup
Speaker 2: to what I wrote last Monday, that he goes adulation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he spoke about the same thing. And I think a
Speaker 2: lot of the players might have thought, you know, we
Speaker 2: were a premiers for sixty three minutes there and we
Speaker 2: only have to turn up.
Speaker 3: The most concerning ones, probably the Broncos, I'd say in
Speaker 3: that because their goodness, well well I think Paramatta were
Speaker 3: out their peak. That was their opportunity. You know, Souths
Speaker 3: had that Adam Reynolds there and you know, but the
Speaker 3: Broncos where you really a young side who should have
Speaker 3: been able to sustain it and and get back to
Speaker 3: that position if you look at that ross I so
Speaker 3: I think the Bronco has been the most disappointing of
Speaker 3: those three. Then probably the Rabbit O's and then the Eels.
Speaker 3: I'd say in.
Speaker 2: Terms of what I wouldn't have been that order, Well,
Speaker 2: how would you go? Uh, probably Para when you're the
Speaker 2: complete capitulation with the best. If you want me to
Speaker 2: get a crissis made out, they bagged me when I get.
Speaker 3: A made around. No, No, that's not what I meant. What
Speaker 3: I meant was that that side that premiership we talked
Speaker 3: about premiership windows. That was paramatters. Now at the other
Speaker 3: end of it, they're in a much worse situation. But
Speaker 3: I think Brisbane should still be top four side this
Speaker 3: year where paramount. All Right, David wants to know why
Speaker 3: is Belmore not as hyped as like her?
Speaker 1: Well, I think Brent Reid thinks of him about the
Speaker 1: same level.
Speaker 2: Look, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: Good question.
Speaker 2: More sports ground. I hold days it was so atmosphereic.
Speaker 3: Wait for Sunday so much.
Speaker 2: You know what I've got footy tap punters they still
Speaker 2: do fully tap. I'm going to give you the better
Speaker 2: the weekend. Right now, there is an ambulsh happening at
Speaker 2: Belmo on Sunday?
Speaker 3: Is it your man, Ricky?
Speaker 2: Ricky's going to do an ambush? What price they are you?
Speaker 3: Look on the radar?
Speaker 1: Is he posting a Michael Carriana's preseason predictions.
Speaker 3: Thing on the wall up there to motivate the truth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one would think. So, I smell a massive ambul
Speaker 2: You just wanted that to have it?
Speaker 3: So brakleaves you alone on Monday night.
Speaker 2: Just se him film me on Intersesta during the week.
Speaker 3: Makes me laugh every time.
Speaker 2: Three work experience. One was a full time and the
Speaker 2: boss was in just making sure everything. They put this
Speaker 2: green stuff on my cheeks and then Mate loves it.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 2: He loves making a fool of me.
Speaker 3: Here he goes thoughts on the rookie of the year.
Speaker 3: I'm starting to think Jack box Stock has his nose
Speaker 3: in front like you Gallan missing out due to suspension.
Speaker 2: I got around Jake box box stuff. You've got one coming,
Speaker 2: I've got one. I coached against him, oh the old tag.
Speaker 2: I coached Cornala and he played for did you and
Speaker 2: he can't? Also coached against Joseph Mate. I was pretty good.
Speaker 3: I was half time sprays.
Speaker 2: Like that make their kids. We're not playing for sweep stations.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I used to tell them, like Ted Gloss and the entertainers,
Speaker 2: go and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3: Parenting style, not my parents on my coaches.
Speaker 2: What was the question? Is a rookie of the year?
Speaker 3: Mob?
Speaker 2: He nearly Galvin? Isn't it is?
Speaker 3: He can't be because of his suspension.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bostocks had a great season, isn't he? I'd say
Speaker 1: blade slangy, but he's hurt me too much.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with him being No, he hasn't done
Speaker 2: as much as his publicity would suggest.
Speaker 3: View All right, back to your mobsy, Bostocks had a
Speaker 3: great year.
Speaker 1: Oh you're done with this? So did you have a Rookie.
Speaker 3: Of the year?
Speaker 2: Good questions?
Speaker 3: Oh, good questions? Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, lots of emails,
Speaker 3: lots of emails about Paramounta. But I applied to the people,
Speaker 3: say we're going to talk personally. You people take the
Speaker 3: time out, and then applied. I always get back to ye.
Speaker 2: I told the John's family about the jungle chicken carriage,
Speaker 2: and I begged the tripe out of Ready's lemon, rosemary,
Speaker 2: rose garlic.
Speaker 3: Yes are they?
Speaker 2: I got tacos tonight. My daughter's coming home and yeah
Speaker 2: for a meal, and we're doing yeah, not far off.
Speaker 2: I've got this thing. I've got to go and get
Speaker 2: a box from Ballies. It's yeah.
Speaker 3: Nice. We're having all the talk. And I spoke about
Speaker 3: the lamb recipe last week. Leftical. That's what we're actually
Speaker 3: having for dinner tonight.
Speaker 2: So I'll send your father technical we are now we
Speaker 2: need to print that menu.
Speaker 3: Actually keep people keep asking for you do some video
Speaker 3: for us.
Speaker 2: We can add it to this. I can ask Clark
Speaker 2: if you want, can I just finish up? Seriously? Talk
Speaker 2: to me, Buzzy, Can you a bit better next year?
Speaker 2: Next week with.
Speaker 3: Thongs?
Speaker 1: I would pay you to being a single because you
Speaker 1: get older than anyone on.
Speaker 3: I'm going to turn the temperature.
Speaker 2: They don't have a budget here for makeup or wardrobe.
Speaker 2: I'd just like to try a bit harder.
Speaker 3: And when I'm on the in the studio for abe,
Speaker 3: so I'm always.
Speaker 2: Showing my toes off because I get gout and a
Speaker 2: little bit smiling.
Speaker 3: They are enjoy your dinner, folks. So