WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 2 July 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.120 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.080 Thank you Caleb, you got us on a good night, Tonight, 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:11.280 Hunt Day, Wednesday, the end. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.920 Of the week, go so near for way too many. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.320 And tonight a great debate looking forward to this. John Roscombe, 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:19.200 of course connected with the IPA, one of the great 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.080 free thinkers, takes on a man who's only over here 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.160 to help being labeled with bootstraps. Stephen Conroy, the Great 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.160 Trevor longwill join us, the man who, of course knows 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.720 so much about technology, about how you are supposed to 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:35.080 defend yourself when somebody hacks information from people like Quantus 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.760 and Wednesday Night the one, the only and the only 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.200 way you'll see her on Australian TV. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:40.720 Meghan Kelly. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:46.120 Remember this, if you ever get chased by one run Serpentine, Serpentine. 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.360 You got to go left to record, not a street line. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.560 We discuss the alligator, Alcatraz and a whole lot more. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.680 The bad weather continues in and around New South Wales. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.040 The southern parts of the state have been particularly thumped, 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.680 although is the central coast still remain. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:02.360 Quite the problem. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.520 A lot of people still in the middle of things, 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.120 some people starting to clean. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:11.680 Up so cool, that's so incredible. I think they're a 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:12.680 life carried off. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.280 But that's so coo, so fun too much. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.319 Yesterday amazing, it was as big as I've ever seen it. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.000 And the surf inside Black Beach three to five foot. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.479 We just went to the blohole. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.480 How was it beautiful to get blown. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:33.959 Away working so compliments on the mustache spectacular. As for 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.000 the sees, this is part of their efforts today. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.200 Now remember these. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.080 People are volunteers. On top of everything else they do. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.040 They do this at a moment's notice. They've got to 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.120 walk away from their jobs, walk away from their families, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.160 and sometimes leave their own homes unprepared. So we're forever 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.360 thankful to anyone in the orange uniform. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.520 Seven flood rescue activations took place, with vehicles ending up 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.559 in flooded waters. There is a lot of debris on roads. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:05.440 Trees have fallen, power lines are down. The roads are 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:10.640 also very slippery. There have been multiple car crashes and 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.000 we're asking people to please take care on the roads. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.440 This is the live radar picture. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.080 As you can see, the swirl is continuing. It is 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.920 ever so slightly moving south, but the intensity of which 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.960 is still again either side of Sydney. Parts of Sydney 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.680 have copped it starting to go a little in towards 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.040 say the Blue Mountains in terms of west of Sydney, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.640 but the south coast of New South Wales is copping 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.919 a thump. Beneath this image you can see here is 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.720 some rain that's making its way towards Victoria, and above 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.960 the very cold weathers of the past couple of days 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.320 that are starting to be part of that Arctic blast 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.080 and are moving their way towards Queensland. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.880 So it is not just something. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.519 Specific to this part of Australia if you happen to 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.840 be in New South Wales. But again, the devastation and 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.200 the damage, these stories are relentless for obvious reasons. We 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.440 live in a big and complicated world. No matter what 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.400 some people want to say that there's a way to 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.320 solve wind, rain and all the rest of it. But 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.040 the damage is still worth seeing. That has been around 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:10.360 over the past couple of days. As for the very latest, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.359 let's find out the latest now from sky ne Near's 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:13.880 weather about what happens tomorrow. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.799 If we are now at the tail end of this system, 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.520 most of that whether it should clear out before dawn 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:21.320 on Thursday. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:23.400 Now that offshore low that's. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.480 Really been building all of this up, the most powerful 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.320 one of the three, that's going to push further out 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.880 to sea, and that's going to really finally ease the rain, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.040 wind and surf conditions have been seeing. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.440 You can see the rain around Tazzy all the way 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.320 through to the southern coast of New South Wales. On 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.040 the other side of the world, it's a different story. 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:44.240 They closed the Eiffel Tower today to tourists because it 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.920 was too damn hot. Temperatures in some parts of Europe, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.720 like Beautiful Portugal were in the forties, thirties in France, 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.200 high twenties with a chance of poshing much into the 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.200 thirties in the UK. So if you know people on 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.160 that side of the world, which them all the best 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.920 because the Eiffel Tower closed to tourists, temperature records being 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.360 smashed all over the place. When it comes to Europe, 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.240 and not some sort of eighteen degree heat wave, but 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.720 a fed income one that is happening all over the 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:13.040 continent and independent territories that are the United Kingdom. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:13.960 Now. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.279 For some time I have often said that when it 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.000 comes to the Australian cricket team. More than happy to 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:19.360 cheer them on when it comes to what they do 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.960 on the field, but they can be a little bit 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.480 of woke, can't they. As you will have heard by now, 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.760 they've come up with a way of not playing cricket 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:27.520 on Australia Day. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.719 Now. Technically if the T. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.680 Twenty competition doesn't finish on the twenty fifth, well the 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.920 game could be played on the twenty fifth, but at 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.159 this stage no plan for cricket on the twenty sixth. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.440 Why because they're woke? Right? 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.120 Wara Mundane, talking to Sky News and the Data Telegraph 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.840 that today said that he thinks it's bizarre what they're doing. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.400 What is their reason they have given for this? It's 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.120 really pathetic and the public who follow the team, follow cricket, 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.840 love the sport and pay their good money to what 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.400 you deserve to know. If anything cricket Australia, it should 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.960 come out and give a reason why they will not. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.839 Play on Australia Day. Now. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:07.720 I mention this not because you haven't heard it fifteen 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.800 times already today, but because it does give me an 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.400 opportunity to kind of mention something that I have been 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.680 thinking about four months. I remember sitting there during the 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.920 summer holidays, just my phone started blowing up with the 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.320 whole bunch of people yelling at me bringing back some 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.039 comments that I had made in the past about Australian cricket. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.120 Now we know that it's Captain Pat Cummins is one 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.000 of this new generation of athletes and there are more 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.880 athletes that have worked these days that not particularly around 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:38.960 sports like cricket, but in terms of cricket Australia, they 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:43.200 are absolutely living up to the old term go won't 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:48.120 go broke. That's the way it goes, right, And a 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:49.920 lot of people turn around and say, whoy Paul, you've 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.960 said this in the past, And in fact the item 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.920 that mean my phone started exploding in summer was when 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.280 Australia defeated India. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.160 Oh go work, go broke. What do you say now, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.680 mate again again again? 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.960 Well my point is not about the players on the 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.720 field necessarily, it is not about their performance on the field. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.760 But when I say about cricket Australia going woke and 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:18.040 going broke, I'm talking about cricket Australia the very people 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.120 who are a wash with television money, a wash with 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.280 ticket sales, a wash with merchandising sales. But if you 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.719 actually have a look at their financial results over not 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.400 the past twelve months, but let's say the past three years, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.080 they all tell the same story. In the last financial 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.400 year Australian cricket lost money. Did I say, go woke, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.520 go broke? Cricket Autralia announced a net deficit of thirty 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:49.479 one point nine million dollars, that being American dollars, sorry, 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.440 Australian dollars, thirty one American dollars twenty one million dollars. 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.080 What about the year before, Well that was a sixteen 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:02.480 point nine million dollar loss for Cricket Australia. So two 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.159 years in, regardless of whether they win, lose or draw, 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.040 whether they thump them five nil or whether everything gets 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.560 washed out and it's a draw, two years in a 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.640 row they have spent more money than they have coming in. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:15.440 What about the year before that? 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:19.360 Or they too lost five million dollars last financial year 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:25.640 despite a World Cup and ashes wins. That's the story 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.240 of cricket and Cricket Australia. Now some will say the 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.040 reason because they are losing money is because they are 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.640 supporting a whole bunch of competitions that didn't exist five 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.800 ten years ago. They've got multiple versions of T twenty 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.200 teams and big Bashes and that's the reason. But it 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.360 also could be that remember the players turned around and 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:50.000 essentially dumped on one of their sponsors. For some people, 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.080 it's our little through gritted teeth that yes, out of 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.840 habit and out of love for our country, will cheer 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.480 them on. But sometimes the OsO woke positions like Australia 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:03.200 Day too scary for is just means you don't enthusiastically 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:08.120 support the way that you previously had, which might be 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.800 a reason why Cricket Australia has pursued in the past 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.520 couple of years a rather bizarre strategy, which is to 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.400 pretend that they are going to move things like tests 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.800 like Boxing Day from the MCG or the Pink Test 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.320 from the SCG, and bizarrely, state governments have ponied up 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:32.640 taxpayers money taxpayers money to guarantee that the events that 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.920 are only famous because of where and when they are 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.440 played continue to be played where and when they will 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.760 be This is part of the legacy of Mike Baird 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.600 as the boss of Cricket Australia. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:45.880 Now we know his record. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.319 When it comes to some sports, particularly greyhound racing, he 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.400 tried to run it out of town and despite his 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.959 best efforts, things are not getting turned around financially, as 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.080 we can see three years in a row. When it 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.440 comes to cricket Australia, perhaps a little less focus on 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.520 the wake and a little more on the bottom line. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.000 But what do I know. I'm just a go on 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.280 TV now. 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.640 As you know, I do not look particularly kindly on 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.840 the endless conversation around Australia day that becomes things like 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.440 the Invasion Day protests. I want to be honest about 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.640 our history, but I think Australia, whatever day we would choose, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.240 would be one where the same stuff would happen. The 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:27.040 reality is there are the stories of Australia. There is 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:33.120 the thousands of years before settlement, and there are the 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.320 fingers crossed thousands of years ahead that are the modern 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.400 story of Australia. No one who is in any way 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.680 a decent human being would not be completely aware of 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:47.080 the obvious difficulties and at times atrocities that took place 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.640 during the period after the first Flair arrive. 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:52.960 There'd be no question about it. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.079 But I also was open about that maybe some people 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:01.600 don't want a body put into the Constitution to help 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.439 deal with indigenous issues, one that obviously no government will 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.680 turn around and ever say no to. So who would 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.520 end up as the premium authority in Australia. Well, we 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:12.920 know how all of that went. That was a couple 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.560 of years ago. And yes, often sometimes we talk about 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.920 it too much, and that vote wasn't a complete let's 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.840 never talk about this issue ever. Again, it was very 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.480 specifically about that idea at that time being put forward. 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.880 And yes, I have shown you the many times that 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.160 things like welcome to Country become well just a little 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.880 too much, the idea that we've all been in plenty 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.679 of scenarios where you're looking around saying, sorry, why are 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.240 we doing this? It should be a special occasion. In 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.600 the same way we don't start every single workday with 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.280 the national anthem? Do we need to start every single 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.959 zoom meeting or sporting contest with welcome to country. Now, again, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.240 all of that can be true, but then there are 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:57.800 also hard truths that sometimes we need to sit down 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.480 and listen to. Now, this does not mean that it 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.120 is a black arm band view of history, nor does 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.440 it mean automatically that those of us that of course 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.800 we're never part of such atrocities either need to pay 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.840 a price or certainly our kids need to be held 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.480 back because of the sins of the past. But every 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.319 now and then there are moments where, regardless of how 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.000 you feel about Australia Day, about Welcome to Country, or 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.400 how you voted in the Voice, that we need to 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:30.200 be honest about our past, what we do with that past, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.360 how we move on from that past, how we educate 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.840 ourselves about our past. That is well and truly up 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.679 for debate. It's one we will have tonight with John 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.760 and with Stephen to very be proud, passionate Australians who 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.000 may have very different views on how to deal with this. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.040 But today was one of those days where you may 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.800 well have voted no in the Voice referendum, you may 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.440 well feel as some do about Welcome to Country, and 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.200 you may be somebody who loves getting out the green 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:02.240 and gold zinc on Australia Day. But we still have 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.880 to know about some of those atrocities. And a major 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.640 report was released today in Victoria. This was their version 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.760 of a truth Telling Commission, and in some of the 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.600 reporting about this and these are very big, very thick, 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.320 very detailed documents. Sometimes it's the first time some of 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.600 these stories were being told, Others more detail was being added. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.160 As the Australian newspaper put it today, violent, illegal and stolen. 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.600 That is the verdict on European settlement in Victoria. Now 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.720 again you can agree or disagree, but let's actually listen 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.400 to this for a second. The final report described the 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.240 arrival of European settlers in Victoria in eighteen thirty four 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.480 as an occupation. They said it was illegal, rapid and 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:51.680 largely uncontrolled. The taking of country and resources was violence, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.720 as first people were displaced in massacred by European settlers 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.040 in the pursuit of their land and waters. Well again, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.000 you can feel all those things about the stuff I 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.640 was talking about before. You can be pissed off about 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.800 whether cricket is or isn't being played on Australia day, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.160 but clearly that's the truth. 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.120 How we deal with that. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.520 Truth has to be the debate, not the debate about 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:14.120 whether we need to ever hear about this truth. Another 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.199 version of those that have gone through what is a 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.439 very big and detailed document, Truth Telling Commission calls for 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.760 redress financial compensation for Aboriginal Victorians. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:23.840 I'll get to that in a second. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.200 But again, what was in this report that was released today, 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.680 Because I have a very big feeling that what was 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.520 released today is going to be the building blocks of 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.000 the basic forms of information that generations of kids are 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.359 going to be taught. They note a range of injustices, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.760 including the theft of land and waters, oppressive policies, incarceration 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.600 on missions and reserves, the deconstruction of language and culture, 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.240 and the force removal of children from their. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:50.280 Families and communities. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.840 Today, the Victorian premiere who yesterday and earlier this week 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.199 was talking about having our own version of the Voice, 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.439 despite the fact that the people of Victoria had rejected 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.760 such an idea at the national level. Well knowing that 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.960 this report was coming, she has said that yes, that 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.559 is something that she will be pushing. 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:07.640 On with in Victoria. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.559 But rather than just dismiss all of this as yet 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:17.280 another example of the black armband of history, or to wallow. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.320 In the details of which are supposed to create. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.920 A sense of guilt in people who did nothing wrong 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.200 and those of us who do not need to atone 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.440 for the sense of the past, but clearly want to 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.200 accept that there is not just some sort of before 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.040 and after, and we don't really talk about the transition 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.680 and the difficulties of those changes. The reality is we've 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.240 got to find a way to learn about this. Do 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.080 we need to learn about it in every lesson in 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.960 every single classroom every day, of course not. Do we 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:50.360 need to put it into subjects like mathematics. No, But 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.720 I've long been a proponent of things like say a 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.520 Marbo Day, where it's not about the different weeks and 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.000 the sorry days and all the rest of it. It's 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.520 a single national public holiday which you may will have 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.480 on the twet fifth of January, to recognize the Australia 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.480 that was here before the beginnings of what has become 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:10.000 the modern Australia that we know and deeply love today. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.560 I also have been a person who's believed that Australia 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.520 should do what some other countries have done which used 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.200 to have in the same way you have a national museum, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.760 that there should be some sort of an indigenous national 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.960 museum in Canberra, so that when you're a school kid 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:26.200 you can go to the Parliament, you can go to 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.720 the War Memorial, you can go to the National Museum, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:33.080 and yes you can go to the Indigenous Museum as well, 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.960 because as we know currently everyone is trying to do 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.120 this work. You cannot go on any sort of a 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:43.280 cultural website in Australia without some sort of deep recognition 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.320 of the past. When the reality is is that if 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.720 that had a focus in a building and institution an 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.200 a day, then may be in my view, that is 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.360 the beginnings of the way to find a new path forward. 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.000 Because regardless of what has been written in the past 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.520 in our history, the pages that are yet to be 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.680 written are blank, are blank, are blank. And regardless of 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.440 whether you are the kid born into the poorest part 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.920 of the toughest part of the Northern Territory or you 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.920 are the one who is lucky enough to be born 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.560 in the richest street in a capital city in our country, 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:20.600 all of our futures are inter linked. Now, as for 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.920 what this report is suggesting, again, rather than just glibally 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.880 bouncing over it, I wanted to actually show you what 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:28.920 some of the demands are. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:29.160 Now. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.840 You can want all of these, you can want none 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.920 of these, but we've got to have the chat about 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.080 it right again. In part we will have that discussion tonight, 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.520 not about black armbanding, not about some sort of bleeding 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.920 heart lefty version of things. But come on, you can't 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.840 pretend that today wasn't a very significant day in talking 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.720 about a past that some of us may claim to 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.560 know about, but most of us probably don't know enough about. 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.760 That's just the reality right now. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.360 Take or leave it. This is what they want. 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.040 No want to amend the law to make workplaces culturally safe, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.360 to establish a complain handling process, and review pay and 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:03.640 leave policies. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:04.480 For First Nation employees. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.359 They want to implement quotas for First Nations representation on 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.399 company boards and government boards. They want to establish markers 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.640 and memorials at significant sites to honor First Nations histories, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:21.600 including past injustices, massacres, missions, frontier wars, and leadership as 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:26.080 determined by traditional owners or Aboriginal groups. They also want 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.200 to restore Indigenous place names in Victoria, prioritizing key public 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.600 areas like parks, waterways, roads, and ensuring that they are 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.440 reflected on maps and documents with names chosen by traditional 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.200 owners and coordinated by the First People's Assembly of Victoria. 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.520 I think, apart from anything else that is going to happen, again, 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.720 I'm not saying it should happen, but I'm saying it's 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.800 pretty obvious the Victorian government wants something to happen here. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.040 The renaming of things, not co naming, but renaming of 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.560 things is well and truly there Again, this report says 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.439 that it wants to encourage churches in Victoria to return 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:05.240 land acquired cheaply or reserved for them to traditional owners 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.240 and share proceeds of future sales of such land. There's more, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.239 and I want you to see this. I want you 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.760 to know what is on the table, because remember, all 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.680 of this can be dealt with by a treaty process 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.520 that the Victorian Premier has said nothing is off the table, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.520 So all of this could go from a report to 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:26.719 law faster than people can come up with reasons why 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.960 Lydiathorpe should stay in the Parliament advocates for changes to 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:35.280 native title laws requiring state to disapprove traditional owners connection 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.320 to country rather than the current requirement, which is traditional 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.240 owners to prove their connection, collaborate with the Commonwealth and 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.600 negotiate the return of cultural secret and sacred objects from interstate, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.800 overseas and private collections. So the museums of the world 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.359 that have aboriginal artifacts, bring them back and bring them 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.000 mac specifically to Victoria. Recognize waterways as living entities and 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.920 appoint traditional owners as guardians, granting them oversight of management 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.439 commercial uses, including coal and desalination. I'm going through the 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.320 detail here because this matters. This is going to be 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.119 a fork in the road about how we deal with 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:10.840 our past. Is this too much? 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.200 We will all find out together. 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.480 The report also says that they should be exempt traditional 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.080 owners from paying anything like taxes, rates and charges related 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.879 to water, grant traditional owners rights over waterways to negotiate 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.320 our revenue sharing agreement, obtain consent from Indigenous Victorian groups 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.960 for mineral resource extractive projects, climate change responses, and renewable 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:37.840 energy projects. That Department of Education should develop a separate 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:43.840 policy for excluding First Nation students from attendance classroom, excuss suspensions, 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:48.200 and have modified timetables. Two more, with guidance from First Nations, 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:52.240 Victoria and the university should recognize and compensate First Nations 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.040 staff for additional colonial load that they bear and fund. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:20:01.120 Separate Indigenous housing networks and increase housing supple, including quotas 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.160 in the Big Build project. I spend time talking about 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.400 this tonight, not to divide. I spend time talking about 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.840 this tonight, not to whip up fear and hostility, but 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.159 for you to understand what is in a report that 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.080 you will probably be too busy or unable to read, 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.199 because we have not just the statement of claims, we 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.680 have the reasons for them, and we have a Victorian 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.679 government in particular that has said everything's on the table 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.840 and they are happy to negotiate on all of these things. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.480 It will then be tested by the Victorian Parliament, the 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.399 majority of which, of course the Labor MP's in the 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.080 lower house, and there is a left wing group that 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.919 will most likely support things in the upper House. So 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:43.600 this is not often to than never and ever, we 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.080 are in the middle of the story right now. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.520