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Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. So this is over in Montana, so

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Speaker 2: we're in the US here. This guy's got two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifteen acres, right, huge? Is that Yellowstone Country?

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Speaker 3: Yellowstone National Park?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: What's he run in there? What of heads? You running?

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Speaker 5: Sheep?

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Speaker 3: Sheep?

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Speaker 6: Right? Okay? So there have you got any sheep noises

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Speaker 6: in the edges? That's a screaming goat. That's it.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred ahead of screaming goat.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, though he's not he doesn't have sheep

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Speaker 2: on his farm for food. What he's doing, he's eighty.

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Speaker 2: First of all, this guy is eighty years of age, right,

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Speaker 2: so he's a grandfather, Kate. He's been he's been arrested,

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Speaker 2: and he's in jail at the moment for felony wildlife charges. Now,

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Speaker 2: what he's doing is that he is cloning his own style,

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Speaker 2: these enormous hybrid species of sheep. So then people come

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Speaker 2: onto his farm and they hunt them down. So he's

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Speaker 2: charging people to come to his farm and you hunt

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Speaker 2: down this enormous hybrid species of sheep.

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Speaker 6: Now I'm going, how is he doing?

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Speaker 2: That's been he's illegally importing animal parts from Central Asia,

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Speaker 2: which he then uses to clone these giant hybrid species

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Speaker 2: of sheep or that rome around his farm. And then

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Speaker 2: you get to come along.

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Speaker 6: You go out there and you go hunting with him,

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Speaker 6: and you get to shoot them down.

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Speaker 5: So it's that kind of hunting. I thought, you're you mean,

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Speaker 5: if there's some kind of hybrid, it's just you and

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Speaker 5: you're wrestling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So they went into this huge farmhouse that he has.

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Speaker 2: There was an unidentified lab in there with one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty five embryos that were clones that were implanted

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Speaker 2: from different people like these these animal pasty gets imported

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Speaker 2: from Central Asia, and he just he's making his own sheep.

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Speaker 3: I quite like what's going on.

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Speaker 5: I don't like it at all. Everything about this is

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Speaker 5: so wrong.

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Speaker 3: I think I think the first cloned animal was Dolly

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Speaker 3: the sheep, so he's obviously gone, all right, they can

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Speaker 3: do it with the sheep. So then he's going, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a mad scientist as well, so why don't

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Speaker 3: I get little bits and parts and pieces, and then

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Speaker 3: if I weave that DNA in, I've got more meat

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Speaker 3: and more wool in the one piast.

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Speaker 5: It's not about that. He's not doing it for good.

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Speaker 5: He's doing it to kind of making money feed some

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Speaker 5: hunting frenzy of mad people.

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Speaker 2: And this is when little eight year old Phoebe goes, Mum,

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Speaker 2: why is grandpa in jail? Because he's cloning his own

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Speaker 2: huge species of sheep and everyone's shooting them down on

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Speaker 2: Grandpa's far.

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Speaker 3: Or the problem was the sheep. We're eating the trees

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Speaker 3: down to the stump, that's how big they were.

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Speaker 6: I do went grandparents where they just go, you know what.

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Speaker 6: I'm at the age now I'm allowed to do whatever

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Speaker 6: I want. Chloe.

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Speaker 2: He's giving us a call from Kirawee. What did your

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Speaker 2: grandparents do wrong? Chloe?

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Speaker 4: Well, he's not on creepy animal flow ing level. Let

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Speaker 4: me farify that, just letting you know, fulling up. No,

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Speaker 4: he's so he's he's.

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Speaker 1: Not too bad.

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Speaker 4: He's just a little bit of a speeder. Like I

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Speaker 4: feel like all grandparents, you know, back in the day,

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Speaker 4: are kind of at that note sheet felt wearing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know he's like, yeah, it's all right.

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Speaker 4: So he's gotten a bit better now because we've had

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Speaker 4: a stern talking to him. But my, my, dad's actually

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Speaker 4: he's a police officer. And every time my pop would

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Speaker 4: get pools over, he would just drop his name because

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Speaker 4: he's just stuck in that old way of sort of

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Speaker 4: you know, getting away with.

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Speaker 1: It, like I like him, Chloe, and he's like like,

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Speaker 1: you know my son, you know my and everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: oh oh, I'm like not sure how to act, and

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Speaker 1: Dad's like, stop stop dropping my.

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Speaker 6: Name is the thing.

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Speaker 2: And then he and they still think they're living in

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Speaker 2: an old country town where everyone knows each other, like Dave,

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Speaker 2: he's my son.

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Speaker 3: Daniel, Tony and Aravine, welcome to the show. Tell us

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Speaker 3: about your grandparents breaking the law?

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Speaker 7: Oh hi everyone. To give you some context, my young

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Speaker 7: grandfather passed away at one hundred and one's world or

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Speaker 7: two vets and sort of lives lived by himself and

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Speaker 7: with my auntie in northern New South Wales. And when

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Speaker 7: he was in his nineties, a snake came into his

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Speaker 7: prized bird avery and obviously the misfe of the birds,

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Speaker 7: so he took matters into his own hands, grabbed the snake,

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Speaker 7: walked across the road, did kind of a whirly bird

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Speaker 7: thing and kind of waved it over his head.

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Speaker 2: Before he threw it.

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Speaker 7: Into the down the hill. Obviously the neighbors saw, so

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Speaker 7: the neighbors dubbed him into the police. So the police

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Speaker 7: come knocking on the door and he said, we want

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Speaker 7: to talk to you about this snake. He's like, what snakes.

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Speaker 7: He goes, well, you were a buster. Someone saw you.

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Speaker 7: He said, well coming out a look. So they walked

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Speaker 7: across the road and the police are like, where's the snake?

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Speaker 7: He said, well, down there, So if you want it,

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Speaker 7: you've got to go and get it. And they're like

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Speaker 7: looking at each other and they're kind of like, well,

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Speaker 7: you know this is it's probably a naighty snake. You

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Speaker 7: can't do this. We'll have to arrest you. And he

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Speaker 7: looked at them and he said, I went to war.

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Speaker 7: There's no way I'm going to jail over a snake.

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Speaker 3: So true.

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Speaker 6: I think he's in this little bit of common sense there.

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Speaker 3: They kicked in Tony good story.

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Speaker 6: Amy in Wollongong. How did your nan get into trouble

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Speaker 6: with the law? Amy?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 8: So she actually got pulled over by the police for

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Speaker 8: going too slow?

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Speaker 3: Was she on the freeway?

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Speaker 8: Amy? And she sent she was on the freeway too.

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Speaker 5: Oh blessed.

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Speaker 6: Is that a law for going too slow?

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Speaker 5: You can't go because you become as much of a menace.

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Speaker 5: It's fair, it's still very dangerous either way.

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Speaker 3: What happened him?

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Speaker 8: So I think that she was going fasty slow, and

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Speaker 8: she was on the express page, and so I'm assuming

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Speaker 8: they thought that she you know, maybe something else was

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Speaker 8: going on. But no, she was just a slow grammar

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Speaker 8: on the road.

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Speaker 3: Oh she was going on for a gin and tonic.

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Speaker 2: I would have eaten, ride up her clacker, just baping

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Speaker 2: my horn and get off.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, so considerate of you. She's making a

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