WEBVTT - The U.S. Report | 20 February

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<v Speaker 1>This is the US Report with James Moroary.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the program. Tonight. On the

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<v Speaker 2>US Report, the Epstein files claimed their biggest scalp yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and you won't believe who predicted it. Plus voter ID

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<v Speaker 2>laws moved through Congress. But again, he'll never guess who's

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<v Speaker 2>opposing them now and New York City is already running

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<v Speaker 2>out of other people's money. Well, that's socialism for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, is it too early to start talking about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight? Now? I know what you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>If a week is a long time in politics, then

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<v Speaker 2>two years is an eternity. Yet when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight is not that far away at all,

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<v Speaker 2>which means we need to start thinking about who Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's successor is going to be. Who will be the

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<v Speaker 2>heir to the Maga throne. It's an important question because

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<v Speaker 2>once we get through the mid terms later this year,

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<v Speaker 2>if the Democrats get Congress back, it is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be two years of shrieking, confected outrage, law fare and

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<v Speaker 2>impeachment trials. And whoever is going to take up the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican mantle is going to need to be a steady

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<v Speaker 2>pair of hands to fight through that chaos and win

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<v Speaker 2>voters over despite all these distractions. Now, until very recently,

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<v Speaker 2>the conventional wisdom the easy money was on JD. Vance,

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<v Speaker 2>the vice president. But now the wind seems to be shifting.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you ask me the front runner, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>most likely to succeed is someone you might not have

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<v Speaker 2>suspected if you asked this question a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a policy question for you, sir. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is that I will.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark, I don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Marco I will. Well, let's hear a big, big

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>A little Marco.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to chow up better.

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<v Speaker 2>Than Yes, that's right, Lil Marco, Lil Marco who's now

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<v Speaker 2>taking the world by storm.

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<v Speaker 3>For we in America have no interest in being polite

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<v Speaker 3>and orderly caretakers of the West's managed decline. We do

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<v Speaker 3>not seek to separate, but to revitalize an old friendship

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<v Speaker 3>and renew the greatest civilization in human history.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was a little bit of Rubio at the

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<v Speaker 2>Munich Security Conference last week and where he delivered a

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<v Speaker 2>speech that was so powerful it may finally put an

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<v Speaker 2>end to that city's association with weakness and appeasement and

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<v Speaker 2>the lights going out in Europe and instead mark the

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<v Speaker 2>moment when a continent riven by multiple crises of security

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<v Speaker 2>and the industrialization and mass migration finally starts to reinvigorate

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<v Speaker 2>and reassert itself. But it's not just at Munich because Rubio,

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<v Speaker 2>old little Marco, He's been punching above his weight for

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<v Speaker 2>some time, dealing with crises in the Middle East, in

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<v Speaker 2>Venezuela and delivering another stem winder at Davos, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Boss well, he's noticed all one.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred votes voting for him, and at first I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And now it turns out that the Democrats probably wish

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't do that. And Marco has been fantastic. Marco, standout, please,

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<v Speaker 4>you have done a great job as Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 4>He's going to go down as the best Secretary of stag.

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<v Speaker 2>And just a few hours ago, Donald Trump had this

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<v Speaker 2>to say about Rubio after the opening of the new

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza Board of Peace.

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<v Speaker 5>Marco does it with the velvet love, but it's a kill. Sure,

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<v Speaker 5>the result is the same thing, it very differently. And Mark,

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<v Speaker 5>you really did yourself proud two days ago in Munich,

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, so proud that I almost terminated his employee

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<v Speaker 5>because they were saying, well, I can't jump to this.

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<v Speaker 5>I do, but I say it differently.

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<v Speaker 2>He certainly does say it differently. Now, obviously it's too

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<v Speaker 2>early for Trump to declare a favorite an anointed follower.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I said, two three years is indeed a

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<v Speaker 2>long time in politics. But let me break through a

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<v Speaker 2>few reasons why I think Vance, for all of his

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<v Speaker 2>great attributes, for his big brain, at all his fantastic speeches,

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<v Speaker 2>may not be the right choice for twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, none of this is to slight Vance, his

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<v Speaker 2>achievements or his story. But going into twenty twenty eight, frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not sure that Vance's bad cop persona is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be what is necessary. I mean, he's often

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<v Speaker 2>been the one on to play the heavy, which is

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<v Speaker 2>an important part of the job. But a president has

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<v Speaker 2>to be more than that. That's why presidents have offsiders

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<v Speaker 2>to drop the hammer. You see him doing it there

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<v Speaker 2>with Vladimir Zelinsky in the Oval office, which we saw

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<v Speaker 2>last year, so that the president himself, well, he can

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<v Speaker 2>keep his hands clean. There's also another question too, and frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's about style, and that's whether Vance is frankly too

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<v Speaker 2>much of an online funster, leaning in too much to

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<v Speaker 2>the fat guy memes that have become an Internet sensation

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<v Speaker 2>for people who live a very online life, something which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I'm a little guilty of, but which

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<v Speaker 2>maybe with Middle America doesn't connect. And finally, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a tricky one, but he's also still got a problem

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<v Speaker 2>with many women voters, many of whom I've spoken to,

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<v Speaker 2>who might otherwise be inclined to support the Republican but

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<v Speaker 2>are still annoyed about his childless cat lady comments of

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<v Speaker 2>a persona they suggest is more online than world stage now. Rubio,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, he doesn't carry any of that baggage.

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<v Speaker 2>He's both a true believer in not just the MAGA agenda,

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<v Speaker 2>but also a great intellectual warrior, not just for the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. But as I showed you before Western Civilization,

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<v Speaker 2>he comes off as a pro and not a hothead.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, he's normal, which is exactly what will

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<v Speaker 2>be needed in twenty twenty eight at a time when

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<v Speaker 2>Americans think that the Democrat alternatives are far too left wing.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me make this prediction. The twenty twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight election will follow Marrow's first rule of politics, which

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<v Speaker 2>is to say that all things being equal, the more

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<v Speaker 2>normal candidate wins. This is why Donald Trump, who for

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<v Speaker 2>all of his crazy persona, is actually a normal person's

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what a rich person is. This is why

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<v Speaker 2>he won against Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, someone who

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely was not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>It was something that you always carry with you hot sauce. Really, yeah, yeah, really,

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<v Speaker 1>are you getting information right now?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's why he won again in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>running first against Joe Biden, who could barely string a

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<v Speaker 2>sentence together, let alone make it up a flight of steps,

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<v Speaker 2>and then against Kamala Harris, who, well, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling we'll be talking a lot more about her soon,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll just keep my powder dry there. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're saying, what about twenty twenty, Well, maybe my

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<v Speaker 2>room was broken, Maybe it wasn't. There may be more

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<v Speaker 2>on that front coming two if anything comes from a

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<v Speaker 2>recent FBI raid on Fulton County, Georgia election offices, But

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<v Speaker 2>put that aside. For the moment. All of this puts

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<v Speaker 2>Mark a room in the front running for the nominee.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart normal lord knows he's a hard worker and he

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<v Speaker 2>can appeal to the center, to normal middle Americans without

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<v Speaker 2>betraying MAGA conservative principles. To put it another way, Lil

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<v Speaker 2>Marco is all grown up. Well, let's get straight into

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<v Speaker 2>it now. Joined me now is our favorite US regular

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<v Speaker 2>former White House Chief of Staff and senior advisor of

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<v Speaker 2>Bondai Partners, Mick mulvaney. Mick, A lot of big news

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and I want to start off with the

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<v Speaker 2>story everyone is talking about Prince Andrew and his arrest,

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<v Speaker 2>which would not have taken place, I don't think without

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<v Speaker 2>the release of those Epstein files. But have a look

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<v Speaker 2>at this from twenty fifteen. Even back then, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to think there was a problem here.

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<v Speaker 6>You raised the question of Jeffrey Epstein in your remarks.

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<v Speaker 1>Event I think he's got a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>You think the problem will be I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 5>that island was really assesspool.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question about it. Just ask Prince Andrew.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll tell you about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well didn't he just call it? But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what though Nick as a great lover of the

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<v Speaker 2>royal family that Trump is. What do you think Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is making of all of this now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, James, I think he wants to get away from

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<v Speaker 1>this as quickly as he possibly can. There's no good

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to come from Donald Trump from these Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>files or from the continuous drip drip drip of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files. Like make thing a couple things perfectly clear,

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<v Speaker 1>under no circumstances, there's anything in the Epstein file is

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<v Speaker 1>going to shorten his term in office, and nothing in

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files would ever be criminal, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>as pertaining to Donald Trump. If it was, the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>would have put out a long time ago. Keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind that Biden Department of Justice had these files for

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<v Speaker 1>four years and they hated Donald Trump more than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole world. So this is not about Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's time in office. I think it's about embarrassment to friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That it may be that Prince Andrew, who had friends

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides the isle in this country, was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that both parties had been protecting for

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<v Speaker 1>a very very long time, and just then it became

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<v Speaker 1>politically impossible to do it. But look, Donald Trump wants

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein thing to go away. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks who want to go away for a variety of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned to you, I'm in the files, believe

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<v Speaker 1>it or not. I got it there. He asked me

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<v Speaker 1>about someone asked about my name. It popped up on

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<v Speaker 1>a search. So there's people.

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<v Speaker 2>This is.

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<v Speaker 1>The longer this drags out, the more people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved, There's no question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And gosh knows where all of the threads that

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<v Speaker 2>start getting pulled wind up going with that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>suspect that's a lot of Trump's reticence on that. You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>But moving on though, I want to know what we

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<v Speaker 2>talked a bit about last week here, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>this ongoing push for voter integrity and the Republicans pushing

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<v Speaker 2>this Save Act, which, as we've spoken about before, is

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<v Speaker 2>designed to ensure that only US citizens with proper iety

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<v Speaker 2>vote in federal elections. Now, this seems like a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's past the House and gone to the Senate. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's a surprising obstacle right now when Republican Mitch McConnell

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<v Speaker 2>you see here on your screen, making Joe Biden look

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<v Speaker 2>like John Wayne and who is now joining Democrats to

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<v Speaker 2>stand in the way of the act, which is odd

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<v Speaker 2>to be given that McConnell has in the past been

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<v Speaker 2>a key spokesman for voting integrity, like all the way

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<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of the election fraud that occurs in my

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<v Speaker 6>state and I suspect in many others involves the use

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<v Speaker 6>of absentee ballots.

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<v Speaker 2>Mick, what has made Mitch McConnell change his tune on

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<v Speaker 2>voter integrity?

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump? His Trump Arrangement syndrome now is real, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch McConnell is not running free election. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>the health. You showed the video there, that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>only video you can find of Mitch McConnell clearly limited

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<v Speaker 1>in his abilities and so forth. But he hates Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He just does, and he doesn't want to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a win. That's the only explanation I can come up with, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you point out, not only has he supported it

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<v Speaker 1>in the past and for a long time, there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>at least one Democrat, John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, who is

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<v Speaker 1>supporting this bill. This is an eighty five or ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent issue with the American public, and that includes Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Should you have to show an ID to vote? That's

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<v Speaker 1>really what this act is about as base. So why

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch McConnell is doing if this is his parting shot

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<v Speaker 1>to Donald Trump on the way out the door of

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<v Speaker 1>refusing to give him a victory, I don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>The bill is not going to pass mostly because of

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat obstruction. Keep in mind, even if McConnell supports it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still short and need Democrat votes. They're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get it. So you can have a longer discussion

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<v Speaker 1>another day about why the Democrats opposed it, But why

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch McConnell opposes it. The only reason I come back

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<v Speaker 1>to is that he just he can't stand Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but Mick, walk me through this with the Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>logic here, there are some states that require ID, some

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<v Speaker 2>states that don't. Now, for the last decade we have

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<v Speaker 2>heard the Democrats going on about election integrity. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>to me that by not supporting this bill, they are

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<v Speaker 2>giving Trump and Republicans anybody who's a little bit suspicious

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<v Speaker 2>a great avenue to question the integrity of future American elections.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they sort of want that don't they. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that they're prodding Trump. They tried to make Trump

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<v Speaker 1>out to be this fascist dictator, and they sort of

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<v Speaker 1>want him in some ways to try to federalize elections

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth, to send out the National Guard and say, oh, look, see,

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<v Speaker 1>we were right about him the whole time. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>one of those circumstances of putting your own political interests

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<v Speaker 1>and just being right ahead of what's right for the country. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them will make arguments about how their elections

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<v Speaker 1>are to be run by the states and not by

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government, and I get that. I'm sympathetic to

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<v Speaker 1>that argument. That doesn't mean there can't be some basic standards,

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<v Speaker 1>including showing an ID. If you deep dig down deep

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<v Speaker 1>into the Democraft Party, though, you'll find the wing of

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<v Speaker 1>the party that wants to make sure that people who

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be here still get to vote. They think that

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<v Speaker 1>voting is a universal sort of right. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>for citizens, it's for anybody who's here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that's where we start to get

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<v Speaker 2>down to the real nub of the matter. Let's move

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<v Speaker 2>over to the Iran question though right now, because this

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<v Speaker 2>we keep getting action threatened here and now Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has indicated that he will make a decision on whether

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<v Speaker 2>to attack Iran in the next ten days while these

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<v Speaker 2>talks are underway to reach a deal on Iran's nuclear capabilities. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>it has just broken that Keir Starmer's Belaguered Labor government

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<v Speaker 2>is going to block the US from using bases out

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<v Speaker 2>of the UK in any strike on Iran, saying they

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<v Speaker 2>think it would violate international law. This has been a shade,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think when France tried to ban Ronald Reagan

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<v Speaker 2>from flying over France to strike Libya back in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighties. But Nick, what are you hearing about this

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<v Speaker 2>particularly around maybe that it's actually things like whether in

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<v Speaker 2>the time of year and rough seas in that area,

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually what's still laying some sort of strike.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and keep in mind France did do that to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Toronto Reagan in the nineteen eighties, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were still able to bomb Tripoli despite that. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to figure out if we decide we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this in Iran, either the UK can go

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<v Speaker 1>long or that they or they don't. They're not going to,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll still we're not counting on the UK. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not reliant on the UK for that. It's disappointed to

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<v Speaker 1>hear an ally does want to help us if we

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<v Speaker 1>decide to do that. But that's that's another story. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to laugh when you put up the headline

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<v Speaker 1>about Trump suggests that he may have an answer in

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<v Speaker 1>ten days. In Trump world, that's not an answer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I will maybe I won't give you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a nugget that I know makes a headline.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean it's tomorrow, and it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's six months from now. So I think they're still

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on a couple of things. To your question about logistics,

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<v Speaker 1>excellent question. The dark of night, the phases of the

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<v Speaker 1>moon make a difference when you want to do these

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<v Speaker 1>military types of operations that I understand. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>I've got this right, the new moon was last night,

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<v Speaker 1>so for the next fifteen days it will be getting

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<v Speaker 1>lighter and lighter, which sort of maybe puts you in

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<v Speaker 1>a timeline of when something might be going on. They

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<v Speaker 1>have had the opportunity, the American military now has had

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to move more assets into the Gulf that

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<v Speaker 1>comparing it to the build up they did before a

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<v Speaker 1>desert storm back in nineteen ninety one. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>significant American military presence in the area. Again, another reason

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<v Speaker 1>we're not heavily reliant on the UK. My guess is

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<v Speaker 1>it's an educated guest. There will be something. James eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>as Lindsay Graham, and I don't agree with him very often.

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<v Speaker 1>He said over the weekend, you don't move an aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>carrier into the Mediterranean so the soldiers can get the

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<v Speaker 1>seamen can get some sunshine. They're there to work and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to use this military asset at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't read too much into the maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>give you, maybe I give you a decision in ten days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a hard and fast deadline by any stretch

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<v Speaker 1>of the imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean just on the domestic side of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean putting Lindsey Graham aside for a moment. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there is that sort of line that goes around Trump

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<v Speaker 2>always chickens out. Trump has made commitments that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if the Iranians keep doing what they're doing, help is

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<v Speaker 2>on the way. He said that help is on the

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<v Speaker 2>way for the Iranian people. Is there a risk to

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<v Speaker 2>his credibility. If he doesn't do that, does that play

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<v Speaker 2>into his calculus at all? You know them, man, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the calculus is this. They're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out if a decapitation, removing the senior leadership of the government,

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<v Speaker 1>does that make things better or worse when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to American interests. In Venezuela, they were able to convince

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and I think rightly so, that taking Maduro out

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<v Speaker 1>of the equation would help because there was a government

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<v Speaker 1>there to stand up once he was removed. Trast that

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<v Speaker 1>to what you and I know happened in Iraq with

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<v Speaker 1>Saddam Hussein and what they call the debathification of Iraq

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<v Speaker 1>when they took out the entire governing wing of the

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<v Speaker 1>population and there was no government left run the country afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they're trying to figure out is Iran

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<v Speaker 1>more like Iraq or that more like Venezuela, and what

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<v Speaker 1>really happens on the day after we take out the

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<v Speaker 1>Eya toll. I think that's what's really the issue right now,

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<v Speaker 1>is they're trying to figure out what comes next as

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<v Speaker 1>they move down the chessboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I think that's always the thing that we

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<v Speaker 2>like to hear that they're thinking about because so often

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like our politicians and leaders don't think about

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<v Speaker 2>what comes next. Mick Welvany, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time as always. Now, hey, let's move on to Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Where the phrase drain the swamp has taken

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<v Speaker 2>on a whole new meaning after a sewer pipe owned

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<v Speaker 2>by d C Water collapsed and sent get this, a

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<v Speaker 2>quarter billion gallons of raw sewage. That's a lot into

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<v Speaker 2>the Potomac River. I can almost smell it from here.

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<v Speaker 2>But it has emerged also that the chief of DC

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<v Speaker 2>Water not only oversaw five hundred million dollars in DEI contracts,

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<v Speaker 2>but also complained when he took his job that there

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<v Speaker 2>were too many white men running the joint.

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<v Speaker 7>When I arrived at DC Water, this was an organization

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<v Speaker 7>that looked very similar to our tour our industry.

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<v Speaker 1>It was predominantly you know, white male at the top.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is a utility that's you know, more than

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<v Speaker 6>seventy percent people of color work at this utility.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, joining me now to discuss this and a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>As White House reporter at the Washington Examiner, Naomi Live. Naomi,

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<v Speaker 2>this story. Part of the pund really stinks what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on there in DC? And did the DC Water Authority

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<v Speaker 2>spend more time doing social justice than they did maintaining

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<v Speaker 2>the pipes.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, if you didn't think d C was toxic before,

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<v Speaker 8>you probably do now. So then your audience understands sort

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<v Speaker 8>of the magnitude of this spill.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it comes up to like three hundred.

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<v Speaker 8>And sixty Olympic size Simming pool's worth of sewage has

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<v Speaker 8>gone into the local river around the DC area, which

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<v Speaker 8>you know is not a lovely prospect. And even the

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<v Speaker 8>presidents that have weighed in on all the White House

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<v Speaker 8>preseecretary this week sort of way, and how Trump is

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<v Speaker 8>actually kind of nervous that we'll have to be dealing

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<v Speaker 8>with when he wants to celebrate the big two hundred

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 8>and fiftieth birthday of the country this summer or in

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<v Speaker 8>July our time. But you know what is happening now

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<v Speaker 8>is that there's a lot of finger pointing because obviously

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<v Speaker 8>d C has a democratic run mayor as well as

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<v Speaker 8>a council, and then obviously the Maryland governor wears More,

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<v Speaker 8>who is thought of as a presidential candidate in twenty

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<v Speaker 8>twenty eight. He's a Democrat, and so there's a lot

0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.199
<v Speaker 8>of fingerpointing about who to blame and who is supposed

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<v Speaker 8>to be taking responsibility of that, because you know, there's

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<v Speaker 8>like record levels of E. Coli in the water supply

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<v Speaker 8>here now, and you know, you probably don't want to

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.960
<v Speaker 8>swim in the Potomac River before him, but now you

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<v Speaker 8>definitely don't. Trump this week sort of said that he

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<v Speaker 8>might step in and help with the Environmental Protection Agency

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<v Speaker 8>if the governors asked nicely. So hopefully where's more does

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<v Speaker 8>that soon?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Wow, it's a it's a sticky situation, that's for sure. Hey, Neyilby,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to move on to more serious metters. Although

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.840
<v Speaker 2>that is pretty serious matter right there, partiularly the grinding

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<v Speaker 2>lawfare that has been waged against the Trump administration for

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<v Speaker 2>years now, where lower courts try and block everything the

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<v Speaker 2>administration tries to do before they eventually get their way

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<v Speaker 2>higher up the line. And there was a fascinating admission

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<v Speaker 2>by CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Tube in The New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times whose Times who said those Biden judges and others

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<v Speaker 2>appointed by democratic presidents have proved that the most effective

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<v Speaker 2>resistance to mister Trump has come not from democratic politicians,

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<v Speaker 2>but rather from federal judges. This really proves a point

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<v Speaker 2>that the left is now actively trying to use a

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<v Speaker 2>branch of government that should be independent from politics for

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<v Speaker 2>very political means. I think this makes them look very petty.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, whenever Jeffrey Truban is in the news, I always

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<v Speaker 8>raise my eyebrows. But this, this is an interesting example

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<v Speaker 8>because obviously the Federalist Society has become really influential and

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<v Speaker 8>conservat of circles because of this way that they have

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<v Speaker 8>really elevated judges that sort of believe in you know,

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<v Speaker 8>originalism and textualism and really interpreting the documents that the

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<v Speaker 8>founding fathers left us. Now, when it comes to what

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 8>Tuben is saying is that you know when they are

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<v Speaker 8>choosing judges, because Biden did has you know, passed more

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<v Speaker 8>or appointed more judges in his term than Trump's did

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<v Speaker 8>in his first term. And so he was sort of saying,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, what is the secret ingredient here and the

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<v Speaker 8>idea of you know, these voters, these judges sorry, maybe

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<v Speaker 8>not being sort of you know, standing for something as

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<v Speaker 8>opposed to just being against Trump. Now, the issue with

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<v Speaker 8>that is that the opposite of originalism is sort of

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<v Speaker 8>a living constitution and a document that you can interpret,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, put your sort of activism into, which is

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<v Speaker 8>something that is not very popular in some circles, but

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<v Speaker 8>something that maybe Democrats might lean on more heavily if

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<v Speaker 8>someone like Tuben gets his way with this sort of

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<v Speaker 8>idea that he wants to.

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<v Speaker 2>Amph Indeed, and you're right about Jeffrey Tuba there there's

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<v Speaker 2>a man who certainly has lived up to his name

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<v Speaker 2>in the past. But I want to talk also just

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to the Dei question, which I started

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<v Speaker 2>here before. You have written a fascinating piece in your

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<v Speaker 2>pay for the Washington Examiner this week about Trump's second

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<v Speaker 2>term in this anti Dei age and your research showing

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<v Speaker 2>his approach being different this time around. When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to policies for black Americans. Tell us what you found.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought this was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for reading. That's really nice of you.

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<v Speaker 8>What I thought was really interesting is that so the

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<v Speaker 8>black vote became more important for Donald Trump in this

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<v Speaker 8>most recent election. You know, he might not have won

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<v Speaker 8>the whole demographic, but you want enough to keep sort

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<v Speaker 8>of Kamala Harris from becoming President, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 8>was interesting that despite that, we haven't seen sort of

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<v Speaker 8>this outreach or this continued outreach to Black America. What

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<v Speaker 8>we've seen instead is this idea that Trump's policies helped

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<v Speaker 8>all of Americans, you know, for example, his tax cuts,

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<v Speaker 8>for example, you know, work that he's done with veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really.

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<v Speaker 8>Different from term one, where you know, we had Yay

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<v Speaker 8>or you know, formerly known as Kanye West in the

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<v Speaker 8>White House Oval Office sort of talking to Trump about

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<v Speaker 8>criminal justice reform. I think you had Kim Kardashian really

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<v Speaker 8>pushing for these release of sort of making you know,

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 8>drug defenders that weren't violent having advocating for their release.

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<v Speaker 8>So there was a real sort of spotlight put underneath

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<v Speaker 8>this very sort of identity politics. But again, in this

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 8>era of being anti de I, we seen the opposite.

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<v Speaker 8>And so I'm really curious to see how that plays out,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, before we go into the midterms, and then

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<v Speaker 8>potentially whether this coalition that Trump is built sticks with

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 8>the Republican Party going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Fascinating stuff. Dale William, thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 2>me and everybody out there. Read her stuff at the

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Washington Examiner. But don't go anywhere, because after the break,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be joined by the fabulous Gerard Baker.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know who else is fabulous? This ice office

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>who turned the tables on a Karen who was trying

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 2>to shave him for doing his job. And what is

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the word the kid use? He clapped back at her spectacularly.

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<v Speaker 6>This isn't a good look for you.

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<v Speaker 9>You think I care about my look?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh no, no, trust me. When you guys are, he's evident

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 6>by how you wick you don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>We get that. Trust me.

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<v Speaker 6>No, that's all I'm saying. I'm saying this trying to

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<v Speaker 6>be a social warrior. If you actually cared, you probably

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 6>would care about the child who got raped and also

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 6>the person got murdered by the person that we were

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<v Speaker 6>looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, you don't care. No, I don't care, because

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 2>you guys try.

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<v Speaker 6>You just try to detain.

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<v Speaker 2>Who you tell her Gerard Baker and Marker Rubio's wounded

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<v Speaker 2>moment after the break, Welcome back to the program. Well

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<v Speaker 2>joining me now is Editor at Large at the Wall

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<v Speaker 2>Street Journal, Gerard Baker. Gerard, thank you so much for

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 2>coming on. Always thrilled to have you on, but particularly

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.359
<v Speaker 2>this week because at the top of the show I

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>made a case that Marco Rubio, not jd Vance, is

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 2>probably the best shot the Republicans have in twenty twenty

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>eight to maintain both Trump's legacy while also driving forward

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:17.439
<v Speaker 2>an articulate conservative worldview that Middle America will appreciate. And

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<v Speaker 2>I note you've also taken up a similar theme in

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>your latest Wall Street Journal column about whether Mark Rubio

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<v Speaker 2>can deliver what you call the substance without the spectacle.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you explain this choice here that the Republican Party has.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, Thanks James, thanks for having me in, Thanks very much,

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 10>and if for mentioning the columny, I do agree with you. Look, look, look,

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 10>this is the as I said in the column, this

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 10>in some ways is the kind of the essence of

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<v Speaker 10>the conundrum of Donald Trump, right kind of. I think

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 10>it probably was necessary given where America was given, frankly,

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 10>where the West was ten years ago, it was necessary

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 10>to have a really disruptive figure the sort of traditional

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 10>Republican Party leaders. You know, though they were good people

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 10>in many ways, is they really weren't They really weren't

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:06.920
<v Speaker 10>in touch with people's views on immigration, on globalization, on trade,

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.000
<v Speaker 10>even on the woke stuff. I mean, many of them

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 10>were just too sort of tolerant of the woke stuff.

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 10>So you really didn't need to have this dramatic, disruptive

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 10>outsider come in. The question is did you need with that?

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Did you need to have.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 10>All the other stuff that comes with Trump? And by

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 10>that I mean, you know, some of the kind of

0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 10>slightly crazy tweets or truth socials or whatever, but also

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 10>frankly some of the questionable character stuff. I mean, you

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 10>know there are you know, there's a pretty there's a

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 10>long list of there's a long line of a long

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 10>list of examples of grift going on right now from

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 10>this administration. And so I think the challenge has always

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 10>been can you find someone who does what Trump does,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 10>makes the kind of impact that Trump has overturned so

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 10>many of these things that have gone wrong in this

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 10>country over the last twenty thirty years without bringing in

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 10>some of that kind of baggage that people don't I

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 10>don't I think to some extent that's an open question.

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 10>Maybe you did need somebody. I give the example James

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 10>of Europe. You know Trump, and that was where obviously

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.400
<v Speaker 10>where Rubio was. Would the Europeans really have done more

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 10>in their own defense and committed to more defense spending

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 10>and all of that. If Trump hadn't behaved in the

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 10>way that he did, would they really have done that

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 10>if they've been asked politely and nicely in the way

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 10>that say Marco Rubier would do.

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 10>I don't think so. So you do need an element

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 10>of both. I just think right now that Rubio and

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 10>the speech that he laid out in Munich and the

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 10>way he kind of approaches things generally, I think he

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 10>does give you that, you know, the promise of change.

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.959
<v Speaker 10>He you know, now he's changed himself. He didn't used

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 10>to be in favor of a lot of these populous things,

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 10>but I think he does. I think he gets it,

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 10>and I think he promises that, but without some of

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 10>the other stuff. And I think he is a more

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 10>appealing candidate to your point, I think he is a

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 10>more appealing candidate Jade Evance who, frankly, while he's loved

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 10>by the Magabas and he says all the right things

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 10>to the magabase, I'm not sure that he has the

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 10>ability to reach out beyond the magabase in the way

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 10>that Donald Trump or I would argue Marco Rubio can.

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I really think it's interesting though that

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 2>this speech has made such an impact that five or

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 2>six days after he gave it, we're still talking about it.

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>People are still talking about it. And my mail is

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>that he got well, he got this big standing ovation.

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>And my male from Europe is that a lot of people,

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>even though they won't say it on camera, that they

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>agreed with what he said and some of the tough

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 2>love messages that he delivered, they agree with him and

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 2>say that he was right about an awful lot of

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>these things, and actually that they get what he is

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to say about this link between the western great powers,

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Western Europe, the United States, Australia too for that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again I think that's that's right.

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 10>And again that you know, as I said in my column,

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 10>by twenty fifteen, when Trump came along, came onto the

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 10>political scene, there was widespread, widespread dissatisfaction with the world,

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:51.959
<v Speaker 10>but particularly the market, you know, and it had been

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, Republican administrations after all, brought us the disaster

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 10>of the Iraq War and the sort of developing disaster

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 10>of Afghanistan. And really they also or to some extent,

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 10>the global financial crisis, All of those things happened on

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 10>Republicans watches.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And on top of all of.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 10>That, as I say, the Republican Party represented this kind

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 10>of slightly weird hybrid between late twentieth century neoliberal kind

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 10>of absolutely straight down the line the wrong of Reagan

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 10>economics and twenty first century sort of woke progressive embrace

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 10>of globalism. And that was really a bad place for

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 10>the Republican Party to be. Nobody back then in twenty fifteen,

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 10>whether it was you know, the leaders in Congress of

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 10>the Publican Party, candidates were president like Jeb Bush, frankly,

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 10>candidates and president like Marco Rubia were offering the change

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 10>that people wanted. Trump came along and brought that change.

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 10>And you know, I think that ten years later, the

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 10>Republican Party leadership now basically gets it. They don't like

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 10>a lot of what Donald Trump does, and frankly, nor

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 10>do I, but they get that his message was absolutely necessary,

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 10>that he was the one to deliver the change that

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 10>people really wanted to do. Now, it's probably in two

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 10>years time, as the next election looms, it will be

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 10>time to move on. And then the question is who's

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 10>best place to carry that torch forward.

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know, just on that torch question too. Though,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>one of the things that I thought fascinating I said

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>this before about this speech was his real, big love

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of Western civilization and those links. And the fascinating thing

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>is watching how the left is reacting to this, because,

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>as you know, the left has tried to run down

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>this idea that there's something special about Western civilization basically

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>as long as I've been alive. And you know, the

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>latest cope on this, though, is this piece by Jamel

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Buie in the New York Times saying that the civilizational

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>link I love this between Europe and America is fake

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>because well, the founders of the US made an explicit

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>break with England. But come on, Gerard, all of those

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>guys they studied ancient Greek and Latin, and I mean

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>they modeled the Senate on ancient Rome. Anybody who drives

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:57.239
<v Speaker 2>around Washington, DC knows how linked Washington is to this

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>thread of Western history. This whole Western civilization idea that

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Ruby is pushing strikes me as very threatening to the left.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 10>One percent, James, and of course that I agree with

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 10>you completely. That argument is wrong. Look, there's a strong

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 10>argument that's made and it's made by serious historians that

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 10>what was kind of defining and unique about the American

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 10>Revolution two hundred and fifty years ago was that it

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 10>was fundamentally a conservative revolution. What they were revolting against

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 10>was not, of course, it was monarchical power and the

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 10>excesses monarcal power. But if you go back and read

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 10>all those documents, you read the federalist papers, you read

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 10>all of the stuff that was written at the time,

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.959
<v Speaker 10>you read Tompain, they were calling for the rights that

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 10>the English had had for centuries.

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Back to Magna Carta.

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 10>They were calling for They were that their beef with

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 10>the king was that the king was actually not treating

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 10>them in the way that English subjects did English. The

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 10>English had had had the English rights that have been achieved,

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 10>and the way the English wanted to demand it to

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 10>be treated from Magna Carta, through the Civil War, through

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 10>the Glorious Revolution.

0:32:58.000 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>And everything else.

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 10>That's what was very much in the mind of the

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 10>revolutionary They wanted to They wanted to re establish those rights. Now,

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 10>of course, they wanted to do it in the context

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 10>of a republic. And you're absolutely right. They drew heavily

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 10>on ancient Rome and to some extent Greece. But that's

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 10>those values that they were defending in the in the

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 10>in the Revolutionary War, and defending in the Declaration of

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 10>Independence were absolutely rooted in those traditional Western values to

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 10>say English, you know, English common law, English democracy, you know,

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 10>you know, Roman republicanism, Athenian democracy. Those absolutely were the

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 10>animating ideals that you know, they didn't come over, they

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.320
<v Speaker 10>didn't they didn't have a revolution in seventeen seventy six

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 10>because they wanted they wanted to change, you know, they

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 10>wanted to impose some sort of revolutionary new system. They

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 10>want to actually assert the rights and values that's what

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 10>you know, the Preamble to the Constitution, that's what it

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 10>ought that everything all those documents talk about are those

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 10>inalienable rights, and those are classic Western These are Western

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 10>ideas through John Locke and David Hughes and so many

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 10>of the you know, the great Western philosophers that of

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 10>course America was. Of course, those are the common roots

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 10>between the United States and America. And I would say,

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 10>obviously a country like Australia and other and other countries

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 10>which have you know, have also gone their own separate way,

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 10>but still cling to the values that the West actually first, really, Adambray.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and that is why the American Revolution was a success,

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>of the French Revolution was a disaster. But maybe that's

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>another conversation there. Before I lecteredly go though, I did

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about Also, we've just had this opening

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>meeting of the Board of Peace to rebuild Gaza. Now

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>there's billions of dollars pledge, but apparently there's still some

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 2>ramp area of Gaza that's under Hamas control. Just tell

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>us quickly, how serious is this plan and what do

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 2>you reckon can this work?

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 10>Look clearly it's it's a it's a novel approach to this. Right,

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 10>So we've had the war. Israel has done a very

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 10>effective job of damaging, causing significant set back, decimating really

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 10>Hamas's military power. You know that the standard way forward

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.879
<v Speaker 10>that American presidents have always sought at this point would

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 10>be to say, we've got to get buy in from

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 10>Arab countries. In order to get buy in from Arab countries,

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 10>maybe the normalized relations with Israel, we've got to you know,

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 10>we've got to go for a two state solution, so,

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 10>you know, because the Arab countries will insist on a.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Two state solution.

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 10>I think Trump has kind of bypassed that this idea

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 10>of the border pieces to say, no, we're not there's

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 10>not gonna be a two state solution. What we're going

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 10>to do is wan to focus on actually what's needed

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 10>in Gaza and not you know, we're not going to

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 10>hand over Gaza to a political authority that's then going

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 10>to you know, once again trying to clear war on Israel.

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 10>What we need is what what's needed there is economic

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 10>is it is investment. We really need to bring that,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, to to restore the Gaza strip and the

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<v Speaker 10>you know, the damage that has obviously been done by

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.720
<v Speaker 10>the war, but also to build, you know, to create

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 10>the foundations of a functioning economy. And he's managed to

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 10>get buy in for that. I mean, we'll see, you know,

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 10>we'll see whether these numbers actually materialize.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's the US is committed to ten billion

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>dollar itself does that.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 10>But as you saw today, there are a lot of

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 10>countries there who pledged their commitment to help this process along.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's been you know, it's look.

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<v Speaker 10>It's got a long way to go. We'll see how

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 10>it unfolds. But this approach of saying no, no, no,

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 10>we're not that. The way forward is not some you know,

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 10>elusive political solution of a two state approach. What's needed

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 10>is hard cash, and we are to put some up.

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 10>These other countries are prepared to put them up. That's

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 10>the way forward, and that will mean a more stable Gaza,

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 10>a more stable Palestine ultimately living, we hope, ultimately side

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 10>by side with Israel in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, the previous approach hadn't worked so well, So

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>here we go. Drive Baker, thank you so much for

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 2>your time. I was always love the chat. Now don't

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 2>go away because the great Kelly Jay and Torrence joins

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>me in above it. And guess what, speaking of money,

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>New York City, they're already out of it. But first

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>over at the Board of Peace meeting or speaking about

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 2>a moment ago, Vice President J. D. Vett through some

0:36:56.360 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>epic shade at Alexandria Acazio Cortes referencing her stunned Mullock

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>performance at Munich last week. Have a look.

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 7>I knew exactly what I wanted to say, but then

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 7>after the President said that I was so smart and

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 7>that I didn't want to repeat our congresswoman who froze

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 7>for twenty seconds over in Munich. Now, I'm tempted, sir,

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 7>just to freeze for twenty seconds and just stare at

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 7>the cameras and maybe they'll say nice things about me,

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 7>like they do about Congresswoman Cortez.

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<v Speaker 2>Bullseye. Stick around, because the big Apple is broke and

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna find out all about it after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the program. Let's head over to New

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>York City now, where I am joined by Editor at

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Large the New York Post, Kelly Jane Torrens. Well, Kelly,

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you're still in New York, but I don't

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 2>know how things are going over there, because it doesn't

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 2>like things are going too well with Zoron Mom Donnie,

0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>who has started to crash out in ways so quickly.

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't even thought this was possible. Now he is

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 2>proposing raising property taxes, raiding pension funds, all because already

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 2>six weeks in they're out of money.

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 11>How a look at this to balance the budget is

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 11>required by law. Our preliminary budget takes the only path

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 11>within our control, the second path. The options of the

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 11>second path are the options of last resort in order

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 11>to get to this point of closing the gap on

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 11>both this fiscal year and the next fiscal year, we

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 11>are forced to raid the Rainy Day Fund, the Retiree

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 11>Health Benefits Trust Reserve, and to increase property taxes across

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 11>these other years.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's going on here? It sounds like he is

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 2>holding a gun to the governor's head and saying, if

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you do not give me my millionaire's tax, I'm just

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna blow up the entire budget.

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<v Speaker 9>That's pretty much how you can describe it, James. And

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.319
<v Speaker 9>it's really quite amazing to see.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, he's only been in office since January first,

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 9>and he's already saying and he's admitted that raising property

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.760
<v Speaker 9>taxes will be raising taxes on lower and middle income

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.439
<v Speaker 9>New Yorkers because are the way our crazy property tax

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 9>system works. Now, let's face it, he knew that there

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 9>was a budget shortfall going in. He knew this long

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 9>before he became mayor, and he knew this during the race.

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 9>And his solution was, I need I need a millionaire's tax,

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 9>and Governor Hulkell endorsed him.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 9>You know, I wonder if she's regretting that decision now,

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 9>But she endorsed him, but she told him at the time,

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.400
<v Speaker 9>I'm not raising taxes. It's not going to happen. So

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 9>instead of you know, pulling back on some of his

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 9>huge and ridiculous promises, free buses for all, freeze the rents,

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 9>free grocery stores, free you know, anti Jewish propaganda, he

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 9>instead just keep going with it, and even though he

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 9>can't afford it. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just unbelievable too though, because I mean I

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.280
<v Speaker 2>have watched over my lifetime the middle class get nuked

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 2>out of New York City by economy, and now it

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>seems like this whole thing about the millionaires is complete nonsense.

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>All of this stuff is all going to wind up

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 2>hitting you know, immigrant property owners, hard working class people.

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 2>They're the ones who are going to suffer. It's going

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 2>to be just like the nineteen seventies when the city

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>went broke and all of the services that people you know,

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 2>at that end of the spectrum relied on they all

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 2>lost out.

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<v Speaker 9>You're right, James, I mean again, our property tech system

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 9>is very odd. You know, you know, a very nice,

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 9>huge place in Park Slope that you know, owned by

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 9>some upper class elite is taxed at a rate less

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.279
<v Speaker 9>than you know, a small property, saying Staten Island, where

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 9>a lot of working class people are. It's insane and

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 9>it's insane that he thinks he can, you know, taxi

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 9>somehow taxes way out of this mess. I mean, as

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 9>you noted, people have been fleeing New York, especially job creators,

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 9>and it's scary for all of us. You know, the

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 9>top you know, one percent of New Yorkers, they really spend,

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.240
<v Speaker 9>they really are deal with most.

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Of the taxes.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and so's propping everything up. And what's going to

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 9>happen when you know, more of them leave and the

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.439
<v Speaker 9>rest of us are left, you know, shouldering even more

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 9>of the burden.

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 1>He really is just running around.

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 9>Like a chicken with his head cut off. And it's

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 9>it's embarrassing to see. It's it's humiliating to see. This

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 9>is the supposed to be the greatest city in America

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 9>and you've got a mayor who can't do basic math.

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just terrifying to me too, because who would

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 2>have thought that, you know, a filmmaker Nepo Baby was

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be bad at maths? Who saw that one coming.

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 2>But it's also you know, this housing market. He's going

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>to blow this up too, because he's got this new

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.120
<v Speaker 2>rent control board to try to, you know, make up

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>his promise of freezing the rent. But as your newspaper reports,

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>it's all full of hard left socialist, activist anti Israel nutters.

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 2>This does not sound like a recipe for getting roofs

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>over the heads of people who need it. Am I wrong? Here?

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 9>You are not James as usual? And you know it's

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.959
<v Speaker 9>funny because when Mayor Mumdannie was talking about the need

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 9>to freeze the rents and announcing these crazy new names

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 9>to the rent guidelines Board, he even said, I'm sure

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 9>that they will look at all factors tenants are facing

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 9>when they decide whether rent should should be frozen or not. Well, okay,

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 9>he's looking at all the things tenants are facing, and sure,

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 9>I'm facing cost of living issues since he became mayor.

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 9>But what about the issues that you know owners are

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 9>facing again? You know some owners, there's some big landlords,

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 9>huge landlords in the city s, but there's also an

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 9>awful lot of small ones, you know, who just own

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 9>one building. They've built their way up, and this is

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 9>going to crush them if they are forced to freeze

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.879
<v Speaker 9>rents when every other costs that they have to pay,

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 9>you know, supplies energy, everything is going up. You know,

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 9>it's crazy, it's just unbelievable. But he's made it clear,

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 9>you know what he's going to do. And again, as

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 9>you mentioned, some of these people he's put on the

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 9>board don't even have any experience dealing.

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>With numbers alone.

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 9>You know, the difficulty in figuring out you know, the

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 9>costs and benefits and weighing you know, the tenants issues

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 9>versus the landlord's issues and all of the things that

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 9>go in to the economy that helps decide how rent

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 9>should should be dealt with. And that's you know, one

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.959
<v Speaker 9>million rent stabilized units for New York City.

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know what's fascinating to me because this just

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>shows how out of touch the Left is with the

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>people that they supposedly represent. Here, let's go over to

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles where late night host Jimmy Kimble is headlining

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a pricey fundraiser for the Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee where

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 2>guests have to pay twenty five thousand US that's like

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 2>forty forty five thousand Australia just to get a seat

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 2>at the table. This just shows how all of these Democrats,

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 2>socialist lefties, they are not for the little guy, are they?

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 9>No, they're not. And it is really quite funny. You know,

0:43:57.920 --> 0:43:59.919
<v Speaker 9>you have to pay twenty five k just to get

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 9>in the door. And you know, California is facing you know,

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 9>is where Jimmy Kimmel lives, of course, is facing a

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 9>lot of economic issues, just like we are here in

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 9>New York City. And it's incredible that that they're they're

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 9>they're thinking about this. But and again, you know, Jimmy Kimmel,

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 9>I mean, the guy's kind of washed up. His ratings

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 9>have been going down. I mean, who even wants to

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 9>pay twenty five thousand just to you know, be in

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 9>his presence. It's it's incredible, But you know, they're they're

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 9>more interested in money and trying to figure out how

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 9>they can get their people in then actually listening to

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.759
<v Speaker 9>voters and real people and finding out what their concerns are,

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 9>because I can tell you are not the concerns of

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 9>the Jimmy Kimmel and the other Democratic elites.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, I'd probably pay twenty five grand

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 2>to stay away from Jimmy Kimmel, but very quickly, very quickly,

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 2>before I let you go. The other day, Barack Obama

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 2>dropped in an interview that seemed to confirm that aliens,

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the space kind, not the border kind, are real. Now.

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump was just asked about this a little while

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 2>ago on Air Force One. Here's what he had to say.

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>I think they got a lot of attention this week.

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.760
<v Speaker 12>Barack Obama said that aliens are real.

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen any evidence of non human visitors to work? Well,

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>he gave class of right information.

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 6>He's not supposed to be doing that.

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Aliens are real. Well, I don't know if they're real

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>or not. I can tell you he gave class of

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>fight information. He's not supposed to.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 4>Be doing that.

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's not quite a yes, not quite.

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, is the truth out there? What do you reckon?

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Real quick?

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 9>That's quite you know. The statement for Trump to be saying,

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 9>Donald Trump to be saying he shouldn't be giving out

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 9>classified information. Everyone is always attacking.

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Him for that.

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 9>So you know it's serious when Donald Trump is worried

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 9>about classified information getting out there. So well, yep, fort

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 9>you decide kind.

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Of thing fascinating, Kelly J. Georgane, thanks so much. I

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 2>think we may have to get you a gig down

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>here at the Daily Telegraph, to get you out of

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 2>New York City. Thanks so much for your time. Now

0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what's coming next, A very special Only in America

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 2>where we look at just how horribly racist those voter

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 2>ID laws really are. But before we hit the brake,

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 2>have you ever wondered if you're the crazy one? Does

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.280
<v Speaker 2>this ever happen to you? Well, here's Alexandria Ocasio Cortes

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>to sort it out.

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<v Speaker 13>You must remember, in a time such as this, we

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 13>are not the crazy ones New York City. We are

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 13>not the outlandish ones New York City. They want us

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 13>to think we are crazy.

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 2>We are saying, well, you know the old saying, you

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be crazy to vote Democrat, but it

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 2>sure does help Only in America. After the break, all right,

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.759
<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the program. And now it's time for

0:46:55.880 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>your favorite segment, Only in America. Well, you know we've

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>talked a lot about voter ID on this program and

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 2>how the left thinks the whole idea is racist because

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 2>those source of rules might be hard on minorities. So

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<v Speaker 2>to test this theory, our pals at the Babylon b

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<v Speaker 2>hit the streets.

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<v Speaker 12>We're here on the seat where African Americans are being

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<v Speaker 12>oppressed by horrific new voter laws forcing them to acquire

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<v Speaker 12>a legal ID to vote. Excuse me, sir, you're unable

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<v Speaker 12>to acquire an ID, are you not?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I just renewed my ID.

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<v Speaker 8>It's pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, there you have it.

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<v Speaker 12>This poor black man has been disenfranchised by racist voter

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<v Speaker 12>ID laws because he's too ignorant. I'm sorry, ignorant means stupid,

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<v Speaker 12>too ignorant.

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<v Speaker 1>To acquire a voter ID.

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<v Speaker 12>Absolutely tragic.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done. I think they just showed up what George

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<v Speaker 2>Bush called the soft bigotry of low expectations, which, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that means not having a lot of hope. Anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 2>all the time we've got for this week. I'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you next time and bright and early Sunday morning at

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<v Speaker 2>nine am for outsiders. Bye bye

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<v Speaker 4>M