Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live, Happy
Speaker 1: hump Day, halfway through the week, on our way to
Speaker 1: the first weekend for many and the working year of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the election year. How good is tonight
Speaker 1: going to be? Broumin Bishop Joehilder Brandy in the man Cave,
Speaker 1: fighting it out on all issues great and small. Extending
Speaker 1: from what Sharry just had in her program conversation in
Speaker 1: and around interest rates. Now, as you know, the inflation
Speaker 1: figure is heading the direction that the government wants because
Speaker 1: they want the political uptick of a cut in the
Speaker 1: reserve bank rate. As you know, we're the lowest inflation
Speaker 1: rate in the best part of four years. There's an
Speaker 1: asterisk in all of this. I don't no one really
Speaker 1: cares about the detail, but I will follow it in
Speaker 1: the moment or two time. But just in case there
Speaker 1: was any doubt about where the independent journalists are. They
Speaker 1: don't view this as anything financial. They view this as
Speaker 1: exclusively political. This actually happened on the news.
Speaker 2: The light at the end of the tunnel for mortgage
Speaker 2: holders is closer tonight with the release of better than
Speaker 2: expected inflation data. Financial markets now put the chance of
Speaker 2: an interest rate cut in February at ninety percent.
Speaker 3: After years of hikes, hurting and hip pocket harm, finally
Speaker 3: a welcome set of numbers.
Speaker 1: And you should have seen when the newsreader was handing
Speaker 1: over to the reporter. Oh, it was excellent and wonderful news,
Speaker 1: the best political news and government could hope for. I didn't
Speaker 1: think they were cheering for one side or the other,
Speaker 1: but of course they all are. You know that for
Speaker 1: his part, the Treasurer was putting the best spin on Yes,
Speaker 1: good numbers. No one's going to pretend they're not good numbers.
Speaker 4: Underlying inflation is now at its lowest in three years.
Speaker 4: These are very welcome developments. Inflation is now almost a
Speaker 4: third of the six point one percent that we inherited
Speaker 4: when we came to office.
Speaker 1: Now I agree with those that say it is time
Speaker 1: for the Reserve Bank to cut rates. Why not because
Speaker 1: of the politics, but because we've suffered for long enough.
Speaker 1: The per capita recession in the country has gone on
Speaker 1: for the best part of eighteen months. Normal people have
Speaker 1: been squeezed too tight for too long. Again, I don't
Speaker 1: keep what the political consequences are, but also a reminder
Speaker 1: about what inflation numbers that come out each month or
Speaker 1: each quarter show us it's not just because inflation increases
Speaker 1: went here and then the increases are not as much.
Speaker 1: They're still Imagine a continuous line of how much things
Speaker 1: have gone up, and over the past three years they
Speaker 1: have gone up well, and truly, you name it, it
Speaker 1: has gone up. Now to give you an idea that
Speaker 1: while yes, electricity was low because of the subsidies that
Speaker 1: are being offered to everyone from the biggest homes in
Speaker 1: the country to the smallest ones in country towns. And
Speaker 1: the overall inflation has a two in front of it,
Speaker 1: the core inflation has a three in front of it.
Speaker 1: Even when it's a beautiful set of numbers, have a
Speaker 1: look if you purchase any of these things that are
Speaker 1: above average inflation, meaning the only reason the average number
Speaker 1: gets pulled down is because of the artificial things the
Speaker 1: government has done here. Tobacco year on year, it's up
Speaker 1: twelve percent. Education, year on year, it's up six and
Speaker 1: a half percent. Rent year on year, up six percent,
Speaker 1: alcohol and tobacco insurance all the five in front of it,
Speaker 1: Fruit and veg well and truly above the average rate,
Speaker 1: meat and seafood, gas, and of the households, health, non
Speaker 1: alcoholic beverages, alcohol food products, and of course alcohol and
Speaker 1: non alcoholic beverages together all above the high number. Now,
Speaker 1: the reality might be that the Prime Minister thinks that
Speaker 1: he's going to be onto some sort of a political
Speaker 1: winning here because of the reserve bank cuts as a
Speaker 1: result of these numbers. Then the soft landing is on
Speaker 1: its way. Well, I'll give you the tip. The only
Speaker 1: people that are having the soft landing are the people
Speaker 1: who've had enough cushion for the landing. The idea that
Speaker 1: people who have been under the pump for three years,
Speaker 1: ye might receive moderate and I repeat moderate relief on
Speaker 1: one of the things that are not going to go
Speaker 1: down in prices yet again up but just by a
Speaker 1: smaller margin next month, the quarter after that, and the
Speaker 1: quarter after that. Because that's the way that companies work.
Speaker 1: As soon as they are able to get away with
Speaker 1: being able to charge a certain amount for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: it never gets reversed. Prices don't go backwards because the
Speaker 1: economy gets better. They just assume that you're going to
Speaker 1: put up with it, and largely people will. The artificial
Speaker 1: effects are that a government that is about to preside
Speaker 1: over forty budget deficits into our future that has structurally built,
Speaker 1: as I explained in great chapter and verse last night,
Speaker 1: a tax system that is in revolving around sixty three
Speaker 1: percent of a bottle of booze going to the government,
Speaker 1: not the company that makes it. The government shows that
Speaker 1: all of this is about the surface level. All of
Speaker 1: this is about the pos politics. Of course, the polls
Speaker 1: at this stage, who knows if they're going to be
Speaker 1: moving any time soon. Prime Minister would hope they're wrong
Speaker 1: and will start moving between now and the next federal election.
Speaker 1: But wasn't power supposed to be down by two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five dollars by twenty twenty five? Is your
Speaker 1: power down? And yeah, if interest rates go from and
Speaker 1: there've been thirteen interest rate rises since twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: there have been twelve under Elbow's watch. If the pressure
Speaker 1: on paying off your house goes back to the eleventh
Speaker 1: or the tenth interest rate rise, is anyone going to
Speaker 1: be singing hallelujah? As I told you last night, Western
Speaker 1: Australia average home loan about four hundred thousand dollars. The
Speaker 1: best part of interest that you pay off in your
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars is about sixty nine thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and that has gone up by about half since this
Speaker 1: government came to power. So let's not muck around you,
Speaker 1: which is why perhaps the most interesting numbers politically for
Speaker 1: those of us that talk about politics all an, all
Speaker 1: night for a living came not from the Australian Bureau
Speaker 1: Statistics today but the old fashioned bookies. Now, as I've
Speaker 1: shown since last year, they have put a position where
Speaker 1: they believe there's going to be a change of government. Well,
Speaker 1: the odds for the Labour Party blew out even further
Speaker 1: today Coalition favored at a dollar seventy two according to
Speaker 1: sports Bet. Remember sports Bet thought that Labor was going
Speaker 1: to win in twenty nineteen, so you don't bet the house.
Speaker 1: But still interesting that they are saying that, even on
Speaker 1: a day of good news and the beginning of potential
Speaker 1: political recovery and all the rest of it, at the
Speaker 1: camp Press Gallery is desperate to talk about, they are
Speaker 1: saying the Coalition forms the next government, exactly which version
Speaker 1: of it be it majority a minority, will all find
Speaker 1: out together. They've also shown us some of the seats
Speaker 1: that might be up for grabs. Now they have listed
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of seats that are basically safe seats,
Speaker 1: a marginal seat that Labour currently holds and is about
Speaker 1: to put Rebecca White, the multiple time loser and Labor
Speaker 1: leader in Tasmania into well, she would lose seat again.
Speaker 1: One of the places where the Coalition would be picking
Speaker 1: up a seat, according to the bookies, that moves them
Speaker 1: to their overall conclusion would begin in Tasmania. That would
Speaker 1: mean they would have Bass and Lions on either side,
Speaker 1: and presumably Bradden might move across, so there could be
Speaker 1: two seats out of Tasmania. Watch this space.
Speaker 5: Now further.
Speaker 1: The polls Guardian the Turmal Times today they launched their
Speaker 1: poll of polls, their analysis of trying to work out
Speaker 1: exactly what the trends have been over the past couple
Speaker 1: of years. And as we start to focus on the
Speaker 1: past couple of months, while the Prime Minister's playing a
Speaker 1: home game on taxpayer television, the opposition leader was leading
Speaker 1: an all star squad Leo Finooki Airo and you send
Speaker 1: a price through Alice Springs. They played a blinder today.
Speaker 1: Those two women are going to play a major, major
Speaker 1: role in the upcoming election. Campaign, I promise you that.
Speaker 1: So let's have a look at what they have been
Speaker 1: able to conclude about voter support via today the Labour
Speaker 1: Party is down from the federal election by five point
Speaker 1: eight percent. The Libs are up by three point six,
Speaker 1: the Greens are up by almost a point, the others
Speaker 1: are up by one point eight. If you're doing your mats,
Speaker 1: there's a fair amount left over. They don't say with
Speaker 1: the rest that is, whether that's in the don't know
Speaker 1: basket or it's moving into places like One Nation. I
Speaker 1: don't know, whether it's moving into independence, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But another pole showed us what could be a sleeper
Speaker 1: issue that Peter Dutton should start talking about more. And
Speaker 1: that's a policy which he announced in the budget in
Speaker 1: reply speech last year. Now the pole which is very
Speaker 1: clear here and shows that the Morgan pole actually sorry
Speaker 1: in two party preferred it too is showing that the
Speaker 1: Libs are up this time two forty eight. That's on
Speaker 1: top of fifty one forty nine that was there for Newspole. Again,
Speaker 1: it's all about the trend. The trend is the friend.
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about here. But this sleeper issue
Speaker 1: that Peter Dutton should be talking about. It is all
Speaker 1: to do with banning people from overseas being able to
Speaker 1: buy property in Australia. Now I know for a fact
Speaker 1: because people have looked me in the eye and said it,
Speaker 1: that people who have never voted Liberal would plan to
Speaker 1: vote Liberal if they thought that the Liberal Party had
Speaker 1: a plan to make it easier for kids to buy
Speaker 1: a house. Banning foreign buyers would be that now the
Speaker 1: Greens had their plan. Labor well, it's always taxpayer money.
Speaker 1: But the idea of reducing the number of people at
Speaker 1: the auction by banning the overseas buyer is a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1: I repeat, it ain't a new idea, but it's one
Speaker 1: that for some reason the Opposition does not focus on
Speaker 1: as much as they should. He was that announcement back
Speaker 1: in well last year.
Speaker 6: In my twenty two years in Parliament, I've seen good
Speaker 6: and bad budgets, but the budget handed down on Tuesday
Speaker 6: night is one of the most irresponsible I've seen. We
Speaker 6: believe that by rebalancing the migration program and taking decisive
Speaker 6: action on the housing crisis, the Coalition can free up
Speaker 6: almost forty thousand additional homes in the first year and
Speaker 6: well over one hundred thousand homes in the first five years.
Speaker 1: Well today, Sidney Monty Herald and The Age Brisbane Times
Speaker 1: they did a poll about what people thought of this issue,
Speaker 1: and guess what, they love it. There are very few
Speaker 1: things that the opposition has on the table outside of
Speaker 1: a rejection of the government on cost of living, that
Speaker 1: is as popular as this. Sixty nine percent of people
Speaker 1: support a two year ban on foreign citizens and temporary
Speaker 1: residents being able to buy property in Australia. Sixty percent
Speaker 1: of Labor voters support the idea, fifty eight percent of
Speaker 1: Green's voters, almost eighty percent of people already planning to
Speaker 1: vote for the coalition, But the big number is the
Speaker 1: one on the bottom left hand corner. Seventy three percent,
Speaker 1: almost three quarters of people in marginal seats put the idea. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they want to get Astraightia back on track,
Speaker 1: and there's all these other things that are around it.
Speaker 1: And I'm not suggesting that they don't know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, if something's got three quarters of the
Speaker 1: country in marginal seats supporting it, start talking about it,
Speaker 1: get the ads, go force the issue, remind people that
Speaker 1: it was your idea. It was your idea first, and
Speaker 1: even if the Labour Party try to find a way
Speaker 1: to match it, sing it loud and proud, it is
Speaker 1: your idea and it is one that is seemingly incredibly popular.
Speaker 1: In fact, another question asked here is what about making
Speaker 1: that permanent bugger two years, forty seven percent of people
Speaker 1: say that should be the permanent law of the land.
Speaker 1: No temporary residents, no part timers, no overseas buyers, just
Speaker 1: people that are citizens of this country being able to
Speaker 1: buy property in this country. This is great because if
Speaker 1: it removes a couple of people from an auction who
Speaker 1: with unlimited money due to the exchange rate, or people
Speaker 1: trying to move money out of other countries, it means
Speaker 1: that the race to the absolute tippy top in an
Speaker 1: auction slows down. Now, this policy, which is supported by
Speaker 1: I repeat seventy three percent of people in marginal electorates,
Speaker 1: a majority of Labor and Green voters too, is the
Speaker 1: very policy that lefty commentators like lefty Laura Tingle over
Speaker 1: there at the ABC. Remember she was also worried that
Speaker 1: this would produce mass racism. I repeat, sixty nine percent
Speaker 1: of all voters seventy three percent of people in marginal electorates.
Speaker 1: The issue alone could rebalance the election.
Speaker 3: Y fashion for.
Speaker 7: People turning out to try to read a property or
Speaker 7: in an auction and they look to be different, what
Speaker 7: do you define different as basically has given.
Speaker 1: Them license the views One of the dumbest and nastiest
Speaker 1: things I have heard out of somebody who supposedly knows better,
Speaker 1: but remember to criticize her as bad for her and
Speaker 1: bad for the ABC bugg of that, I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep reminding you of where they are versus those huge
Speaker 1: percentages that I've just mentioned. I'm also going to do
Speaker 1: something that nobody else does, and that is talk about
Speaker 1: some of the ideas of minor parties. One nation has
Speaker 1: served up a very interesting idea about taxation now as
Speaker 1: it currently works. Of course, there is a family income.
Speaker 1: But if you're in a scenario where one of you
Speaker 1: is working, one of you is not well, one of
Speaker 1: you ends up paying the tax, but you end up
Speaker 1: paying the tax at the tax rate as if you
Speaker 1: were the only person living in the house. So if
Speaker 1: you're earning forty five or eighty thousand dollars or one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty thousand dollars, while the reality is that
Speaker 1: your wage is paying for two and maybe two more
Speaker 1: depending if you've got kids. Well, the idea that comes
Speaker 1: from one nation, I think is a.
Speaker 3: Ripper proposing couples with children could split their taxable income.
Speaker 3: Pointing to an example of one parent earning one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty thousand and one parent staying at home. Currently,
Speaker 3: they paid twenty nine thousand, four hundred and sixty seven
Speaker 3: dollars tax, but splitting incomes at sixty thousand dollars each
Speaker 3: would reduce their tax to nineteen thousand, nine hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty four brilliant.
Speaker 1: The single greatest source of revenue to the federal government
Speaker 1: is people like those two and also woke about whom
Speaker 1: they think is staying at home and who they think
Speaker 1: is working, as the typical example of the modern Australian family.
Speaker 1: But you get one point. This is a good idea
Speaker 1: because the reality is when whoever it is, be it
Speaker 1: mum or dad, husband or wife de facto or de facto,
Speaker 1: who is the one who was actually earning the money,
Speaker 1: The reality is that money is not like it is
Speaker 1: being spent on themselves. They're spending it on everyone else
Speaker 1: all of the other dependents that are in the house.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. I'm sorry, I've just
Speaker 1: had enough of the way that the system works, which is,
Speaker 1: despite all of the talk about getting tough on companies,
Speaker 1: they raise more money out of your wages and the
Speaker 1: tax you pay on your wage than company tax. It's
Speaker 1: multiple times what they make out of the GST. And
Speaker 1: don't forget on top of all of that beer, wine, spirits, SIGs, petrol,
Speaker 1: that's how they make their money. Buger them. Let the
Speaker 1: people keep their own money because they are having to
Speaker 1: pay bills higher than ever before. And even if inflation
Speaker 1: comes down to a one in front of it, it
Speaker 1: still means that the prices are going up by one
Speaker 1: percent percent. It's when it's minus minus that the prices
Speaker 1: are going down. Just because the graph makes it look
Speaker 1: like the prices are going they're not going down. You
Speaker 1: know it, I know it. But wait for the bs
Speaker 1: being spun by the media who desperately want one side
Speaker 1: to win and one side to have no chain. It's
Speaker 1: whatsoever bit of breaking news on top of what you've
Speaker 1: already heard tonight in and around the terror plot in
Speaker 1: Sydney caravan found in the northwest Peri urban area called
Speaker 1: Dural in New South Wales. The caravan stacked with enough
Speaker 1: explosives to blow a forty meter radius in terms of
Speaker 1: blowing things up. Now you know what the targets were.
Speaker 1: This is a terror plot. It is targeted of the
Speaker 1: Jewish community. But let's not say that it's about Andy Semitic.
Speaker 1: It is a terror plot all right. Now. The breaking
Speaker 1: news tonight is the owner of the caravan has been arrested.
Speaker 1: Whether they will be charged and what with I make
Speaker 1: no assumptions, but we will all find out and hopefully
Speaker 1: know as the hour rolls on. As you know, the
Speaker 1: police announced what the potential plan here was. As you heard,
Speaker 1: the premiere of New South Wales was particularly fired up.
Speaker 5: The vast majority of people in New South Wales find
Speaker 5: this behavior abborn, appalling against all of the values and
Speaker 5: beliefs that we share in New South Wales, and we
Speaker 5: will defeat them.
Speaker 1: Now. Good on the person who discovered it, Good on
Speaker 1: the person who reported it, and I share the frustration
Speaker 1: that many do that The little detail in all of
Speaker 1: this is that it was first reported ten days ago,
Speaker 1: meaning the police got this caravan ten days ago. It
Speaker 1: is only the reporting of Mark Murray the Daily Telegraph
Speaker 1: that we know about this tonight. But here is the
Speaker 1: police explanation for how long ago and why we have
Speaker 1: not been told that this happened nine days ago.
Speaker 8: Investigations into over the last ten days have progressed.
Speaker 1: However, there is a lot to do.
Speaker 8: There are ongoing investigations which need to be conducted. Ideally
Speaker 8: those investigations conducted with some form of anonymity.
Speaker 1: Now I've written the rollercoaster like everyone else and trying
Speaker 1: to work out exactly where I would land right now
Speaker 1: in terms of this ten day delay. Now, I have
Speaker 1: absolutely no problem with a reporter reporting what they know.
Speaker 1: That's the way that it works, which means it's out
Speaker 1: and about now. But this show is pro cop I believe,
Speaker 1: and I give the benefit of the doubt to the
Speaker 1: police that they were trying to keep it quiet because
Speaker 1: they were trying to follow the different trails that would
Speaker 1: result in people being arrested. Now we've seen that some
Speaker 1: people on the periphery of this were arrested. Now the
Speaker 1: owner of the caravan has, according to some media outlets,
Speaker 1: been arrested. I give the benefit of the doubt to
Speaker 1: the investigators because they literally are trying to find needles
Speaker 1: inside a dozen haystacks that have been blown around in
Speaker 1: the wind. It is a tough and difficult job, and
Speaker 1: just like all canter terrorism efforts, they have to to
Speaker 1: get it right one hundred percent of the time for
Speaker 1: people's lives to be saved. Thank goodness, in this case,
Speaker 1: that remains the case. If there is political leadership or
Speaker 1: anyone else who tried to silence the story, I'll come
Speaker 1: down on you like the ton of bricks. But as
Speaker 1: I said, I've ridden the rollercoaster of emotion. I was
Speaker 1: ready to rip into everyone for why didn't we hear
Speaker 1: about this for ten days? I have no problem with
Speaker 1: the reporting. Once you've got a story, good publish go
Speaker 1: Ten days is a long period of time for the
Speaker 1: public not to know what potentially could have happened. But
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, for me goes to the police.
Speaker 1: We need them to have the confidence of the community,
Speaker 1: the confidence of the community, because it is their hard
Speaker 1: work that will stop this garbage, that will stop this
Speaker 1: garbage in the supposedly minor forms that we have heard
Speaker 1: about day in, day out, or the major form. While
Speaker 1: it's good that the premiere is the one who's beating
Speaker 1: his chest and telling us it's not going to happen again.
Speaker 1: It's all happened in his city, on his watch, with
Speaker 1: his laws. All right, So the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: is being tested. But I give the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt to the people that are doing the hard work.
Speaker 1: We are pro cop on this show. We're also pro
Speaker 1: the emergency services, especially those of you who are the volunteers.
Speaker 1: There's been a bushfire that's been blowing for a while
Speaker 1: in the past couple of days in rural Victoria. Now,
Speaker 1: we have followed a story since the bushfires of nineteen
Speaker 1: sorry of nineteen and twenty, and that was that there
Speaker 1: are a collection of people inside the volunteer firefighter networks
Speaker 1: that are saying the trucks that they are being sent
Speaker 1: out to fight fires like the ones that you have
Speaker 1: just seen are not up to scratch, that they are unsafe,
Speaker 1: that they would firstly not do the job and secondly
Speaker 1: could result in injury or loss of life. Well, today,
Speaker 1: the fieries have voted to no longer get into the
Speaker 1: trucks that are not up to scratch. This story has
Speaker 1: been known for more than five years. The Victorian government
Speaker 1: has been in place for more than five years. The
Speaker 1: Victorian government has said that they are doing something about it.
Speaker 1: But if five years later they have not, then there
Speaker 1: is a head that has to roll. To all of
Speaker 1: those that are following this story, well done to everyone
Speaker 1: who volunteers to fight the fires in very difficult conditions
Speaker 1: with at times what we learn to be crappy equipment.
Speaker 1: It is not acceptable. There was problems with the equipment
Speaker 1: in the act fires, and there are problems with the
Speaker 1: equipment in Victoria. If there are problems with any other equipment,
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about people sending me an email
Speaker 1: about one hose that doesn't work. If you know in
Speaker 1: the volunteer services about a crappy truck that the government
Speaker 1: knows about but it has not done anything about sending
Speaker 1: an email, because I'm more than happy to shout from
Speaker 1: the rooftops on your behalf because reasons. The self interest
Speaker 1: of everyone here is to make sure that every possible
Speaker 1: piece of equipment can be sent out to fight the
Speaker 1: fires that will hopefully save lives and save people's properties. Okay.
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Speaker 1: a happy story. Here, what a spectacular story. Peter Bradley
Speaker 1: is a person who has just won two silver medals
Speaker 1: in a very specific form of swimming, and it is
Speaker 1: ice swimming. She was in the two, the four and
Speaker 1: the fifteen hundreds. This is hardcore swimming. Now she lives
Speaker 1: in regional Australia, which means she doesn't actually do an
Speaker 1: awful lot of her training in the ice bards. Instead
Speaker 1: she's doing it at the family farm. Congratulations to Peter Bradley,
Speaker 1: her family and who knew the best way to prepare
Speaker 1: for an international ice swimming event is to muck around
Speaker 1: in your farm. Damn well played graffiti in Melbourne. We
Speaker 1: know that it's a problem, one that plenty of people
Speaker 1: say they're going to do something about. But finally an
Speaker 1: even stronger idea one where the local mayor our mate
Speaker 1: Nicholas Reese, would hopefully be together with an incoming Victorian
Speaker 1: Liberal government. Their plan within twenty four hours, crap that
Speaker 1: is written, that is not commissioned, that is not planned
Speaker 1: for one of those cute little supercal lane ways would
Speaker 1: be cleared off and cleared off within twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Here's the opposition.
Speaker 9: We will go back to the election with a policy
Speaker 9: to make sure we have a crime prevention minister, and
Speaker 9: we'll reinvest in crime prevention here in Victoria. That includes
Speaker 9: in Victoria Police with the proactive patrols. It includes re
Speaker 9: establishing a crime prevention unit who can go out there
Speaker 9: and work within those communities, whether it's graffiti, smaller crime,
Speaker 9: or engaging with young people who are young offenders.
Speaker 1: Earlier on all right, looking forward to Joe Hill, BROBM
Speaker 1: and Bishop in a couple of minutes before we get there.
Speaker 1: There though the most American thing I've seen in a
Speaker 1: little while. As you know, there are raids on illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants in the United States. They're illegally who have either
Speaker 1: been charged or served time or are being accused of
Speaker 1: violent crimes. These are the bad guys who need to
Speaker 1: go and needed to go yesterday, but many of whom
Speaker 1: were led into the country because Joe Biden was just
Speaker 1: trying not to be Donald Trump for a few years. Well. Amazingly,
Speaker 1: one of the people who was being arrested was caught
Speaker 1: on camera. The filming of the moment was done by
Speaker 1: Doctor Phil for the Doctor Phil Show. And Doctor Phil's
Speaker 1: a hardcore conservative now, but don't you love. This is
Speaker 1: the ultimate American thing that even something and someone who
Speaker 1: is about to be deported says, don't I know you
Speaker 1: from TV?
Speaker 2: You've never been deported before, doctor Phil?
Speaker 5: How do you know me? No?
Speaker 1: I seen a doctor Phil on TV? Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 1: There's an example of same. Short of cities, right we
Speaker 1: go everywhere.
Speaker 8: I'm convicted of sex crimes involving children, and he's walking
Speaker 8: the streets of Chicago.
Speaker 5: You been charged with sex crimes with children?
Speaker 2: Not really?
Speaker 1: I love it? Are you serious? Stuff? And well done
Speaker 1: that they are getting rid of the garbage when it
Speaker 1: comes to the worst of the worst of the types
Speaker 1: of people that after entering the country going on to
Speaker 1: commit horrific crimes. I know that word's tough for some
Speaker 1: people to hear, but would you want those people in
Speaker 1: your country if you have the opportunity to boot them?
Speaker 1: Well played. That's Chicago. What across in New York City.
Speaker 1: Christy Nan is the former South Dakota governor. She is
Speaker 1: the one who yeah, shot her puppy, but she is
Speaker 1: hardcore and she is in charge of the Department of
Speaker 1: Handland Security. She went on one of these raids and
Speaker 1: apparently was even packing. She was fully. She wasn't just
Speaker 1: the going along. She was ready to go and put
Speaker 1: the cuffs on someone. This is the type of frontline action, action,
Speaker 1: action that people voted for and they desperately want. Meantime,
Speaker 1: lefties aren't coping with all of this. They don't like
Speaker 1: that they've got a government that's not just going to
Speaker 1: talk the talk, but they're going to walk the walk
Speaker 1: and they're going to cuff the bad guys.
Speaker 10: When you start having Gestapo raids in America and we
Speaker 10: start becoming a country where as in East Germany a
Speaker 10: knock on the door is the thing people are thinking
Speaker 10: about instead of the brilliant idea they want to go create,
Speaker 10: then we are moving very very far from his the
Speaker 10: president worrying about what regular people need.
Speaker 1: How was the bloke with the troll doll here staying
Speaker 1: on television? How would they aland to say this stuff? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's bashing up on Donald Trump. So we can just
Speaker 1: pretend that what he's doing is similar to the darkest
Speaker 1: parts of either communism or the height and the worst
Speaker 1: and the depths of World War Two. The people being
Speaker 1: booted out of the country right now are not kids
Speaker 1: being taken out us classrooms, not the person who's been
Speaker 1: mowing your lawn, but as you saw, the person who
Speaker 1: had been charged with child sex offenses. They are the
Speaker 1: ones that are being picked up and booted out. And
Speaker 1: the countries that don't want to take them back, like Columbia,
Speaker 1: will they learn fast. If you don't do it, your
Speaker 1: economy's going to suffer, so your people, your problems. What
Speaker 1: a great way to deal with the problem, and I
Speaker 1: think it is something that anyone in any country would
Speaker 1: who reasonably cares about their country and wants to know
Speaker 1: that everyone in their country is a citizen committed to
Speaker 1: their country, would want things to be Meantime, New rock
Speaker 1: Star launched overnight. Now I know she's been around for
Speaker 1: some time, but has this She's just twenty seven, but
Speaker 1: she's fantastic. This is the brand new press secretary representing
Speaker 1: the president. Now remember old caree Jean Pierre just lying
Speaker 1: to people about how amazing Biden was. Deep fakes. The
Speaker 1: one before that, Jensaki circle around just telling lies. Well,
Speaker 1: there been replaced with a lady called Caroline Leavitt. I repeat.
Speaker 1: You can see she's a lady of faith. She's a
Speaker 1: lady who knows how to fire guns recreationally, and she
Speaker 1: knows how to drop a few bombs verbally on a
Speaker 1: press pack that remember covered up for Biden and have
Speaker 1: told the worst possible lies about incoming future Hitler Trump,
Speaker 1: have a look at her taking control of a room
Speaker 1: of people who normally wouldn't even roll their eyes at
Speaker 1: a person like here her, But now they've got to listen.
Speaker 11: While I vow to provide the truth from this podium,
Speaker 11: we ask that all of you in this room hold
Speaker 11: yourselves to that same standard. We know for a fact
Speaker 11: there have been lies that have been pushed by many
Speaker 11: legacy media outlets in this country about this president, about
Speaker 11: his family, and we will.
Speaker 1: Not accept that.
Speaker 11: We will call you out when we feel that your
Speaker 11: reporting is wrong or there is misinformation about this White
Speaker 11: House boom.
Speaker 1: She's got more.
Speaker 11: I would like to point out to each and every
Speaker 11: one of you that in twenty twenty four, when Joe
Speaker 11: Biden was in the Oval office or upstairs in the
Speaker 11: residents sleeping, I'm not so sure egg price has increased
Speaker 11: sixty five percent in this country.
Speaker 1: Badamn, it's on in the middle of the night. I'll
Speaker 1: ply the hoighlights for you here reach it every night
Speaker 1: quick break back with my more Joe Hildebrand, Broma Bishop,
Speaker 1: all the big issues. I can't wait for this one.
Speaker 1: I have you nice and comfy. Go get a drink.
Speaker 1: Come back a couple of minutes from now. Want to
Speaker 1: see Thanks for hanging around. Got plenty to get to tonight.
Speaker 1: Broma Bishop was here along with the wonderful Joe hilda Brand.
Speaker 1: They'll agree on everything absolutely.
Speaker 12: I already agree with whatever it is. Bronwin is about
Speaker 12: to side.
Speaker 13: Yeah, true, that would be wise if you did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, regarding the caravan and the explosives apparently stolen
Speaker 1: the Morning explosives, they may have been able to create
Speaker 1: a radius blast radius of forty meters, which is pretty incredible.
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton has responded online. His focus in part is
Speaker 1: also into this element of the story, where, among others,
Speaker 1: Prime Minister and other authorities have known about it for
Speaker 1: nine days before it was revealed by the Daily Telegraph
Speaker 1: and confirmed by police this evening. The revelation of an
Speaker 1: apparent discovery in New South Wales with a caravan laden
Speaker 1: with explosives intended for a synagogue. According to Peter Dutton,
Speaker 1: this is a statement is sickening and horrifying it's a
Speaker 1: grave and sinister escalation in the insidious rise of unchecked
Speaker 1: antisemitism in our country. Here's the bit. It is incumbent
Speaker 1: on the federal government and National Security ministers to say
Speaker 1: when they knew about this Seeckening incident, who is behind it,
Speaker 1: and what steps they took to protect the Australian Jewish community.
Speaker 1: The government must commit additional resources, including heightened security at
Speaker 1: Jewish shynagogues and schools, for reassurance and deterrence. The alternative
Speaker 1: Prime minister telling us probably what the Prime Minister's going
Speaker 1: to have to be asked about in the next twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. So I'm going to start with you first, Braman,
Speaker 1: As I said, I've written the roller coaster for the
Speaker 1: past couple of hours of trying to go ten days
Speaker 1: not telling anyone what's going on, and then logically thinking
Speaker 1: about it from a police perspective, which is, look, if
Speaker 1: they want to go and do a press conference to say,
Speaker 1: you know, bin Laden style, we got them, they do
Speaker 1: it pretty quickly. Right. We know that when they want
Speaker 1: to do a certain raid, they invite the media along
Speaker 1: cameras blazing right. Obviously they made a decision for investigative
Speaker 1: reasons for the nine days, and I fully support that.
Speaker 1: But I said ton of bricks is coming down on
Speaker 1: anyone who told anyone to keep it quiet for any
Speaker 1: other purpose? Is there a red hearing here in talking
Speaker 1: about the nine days? Or as Peter Dutton suggests, the
Speaker 1: federal government authorities have to come forward and say when
Speaker 1: did you know? And what did you do while you knew?
Speaker 7: Of course they do, and that's absolutely the question that
Speaker 7: will be on everybody these lips, because if the Prime
Speaker 7: Minister has known all the time, he hasn't made a
Speaker 7: statement now like Min's mens came out firing, but the
Speaker 7: Prime Minister, well he probably put out something on the only.
Speaker 1: Too was put something yet online?
Speaker 7: You but not with the passion nor the commitment to
Speaker 7: see that something has to be done. Now, I agree
Speaker 7: with what you said earlier that the police could well
Speaker 7: have been keeping it quiet so they could follow leeds.
Speaker 7: But what was the relationship between the New South Wales
Speaker 7: Police and the Australian Federal Police. Were the Australian Federal
Speaker 7: Police informing the New South Wales Police?
Speaker 13: What was the Prime.
Speaker 7: Minister's involvement in that? So all of that is a
Speaker 7: perfectly legitimate question. We're not talking about firecrackers here. We're
Speaker 7: talking about, as I understand it, mining equipment explodes.
Speaker 13: If that had been stolen and stilled in.
Speaker 1: That van, isn't the problem though, Joe, Again, I understand
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt does not excite people in
Speaker 1: the same way as pointing fingers.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I trust what Mark Murray was saying with Shari
Speaker 1: before about you know, basically it was his reporting that
Speaker 1: busted the whole thing open. He has every right to
Speaker 1: do so if you're a reporter who knows what's going on, great,
Speaker 1: But presumably part of the delay with police is they
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's just one caravan or there's
Speaker 1: a collection of others, so they're trying to follow some
Speaker 1: leads that said, obviously you can do two things at
Speaker 1: the same time, right, which is that you cannot tell
Speaker 1: the potential targets what was coming. But were they fortified.
Speaker 1: Supposedly there was a list of locations very specific. I
Speaker 1: don't know now that may well have happened. If it didn't,
Speaker 1: then that's going to be a whole new arm of
Speaker 1: this thing. But what's your thoughts on the early hours
Speaker 1: of this thing also given the police at this stage,
Speaker 1: I haven't double checked if the story has moved on
Speaker 1: they have arrested the person who owns the caravan.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I do not think that this is something that should
Speaker 12: be turned into a political football for obvious reasons. I
Speaker 12: am not a counter terrorism expert. I do know a
Speaker 12: couple of counter terrorism experts, and the first thing they
Speaker 12: will tell you is the last thing on their mind
Speaker 12: is a press conference or a press release. And the
Speaker 12: last thing, generally speaking, that most investigators want is to
Speaker 12: let the public know, unless that is for strategic purposes,
Speaker 12: i e. They want to suspect to know that the
Speaker 12: cops are on their trail and for them to get
Speaker 12: jittery and make mistakes and see what they say so
Speaker 12: they can move in on them. Otherwise, they generally want
Speaker 12: to be left to do their own thing unmolested. It
Speaker 12: would be completely and utterly derelict in their duty if
Speaker 12: they were to compromise of investigation by crowing about it.
Speaker 12: The first thing that the politicians would want to do
Speaker 12: is go public. If it was in Anthony Albanese's political
Speaker 12: interest that the government was acting, they'd be crowing about
Speaker 12: busting this just the same way that Donald Trump bragged
Speaker 12: about Bagdadi, or that Barack Obama did about Bin Laden. Clearly,
Speaker 12: if the police wanted to go public with this or
Speaker 12: Felder was ready, not a politician in the land would
Speaker 12: stand in the way. And so to say, you know
Speaker 12: who knew what? I think that is a conspiratorial rabbit hole.
Speaker 7: Now I'm sorry, I don't that's that's fair as long
Speaker 7: as it's unknown and suddenly someone comes out and said, well,
Speaker 7: I think you knew, so tell all. But this has
Speaker 7: gone a different way. This has been released through the press,
Speaker 7: through the interview was.
Speaker 12: One of the best police reporters.
Speaker 13: So he has broken this story.
Speaker 7: So then it opens the whole thing up and the
Speaker 7: question has to be asked, then where is the Prime
Speaker 7: Minister's role in all of this, particularly as promise.
Speaker 1: Did not tip offs if that's what you're asking from.
Speaker 7: Suggesting that's what happened at all. But I do want
Speaker 7: to know what was his involvement in it?
Speaker 13: What the pop did he know?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 7: And why hasn't he come out and talked about it
Speaker 7: now as mens has done.
Speaker 1: Just let me play a lovely to Cabra Columbo here right,
Speaker 1: Remember at the time where I remarked, was just the
Speaker 1: timing and I know there's a Goaldilocks affected this too early,
Speaker 1: too late, but remember the fire bombing of the child
Speaker 1: care and the Prime minister was there before nine o'clock
Speaker 1: basically as the fieries were there and people couldn't quite
Speaker 1: including myself, work out hang on the timing around this.
Speaker 1: Just double checked the day that was the twenty first,
Speaker 1: so that was a day after this actually two days after,
Speaker 1: because it was the nineteenth when this first discovery had happened.
Speaker 1: So whether his response is in part a heightened awareness
Speaker 1: to are we about to hit a new threshold? I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's not me throwing mutter the Prime minister.
Speaker 1: It's just me saying the heightened sense of things would
Speaker 1: be why when you don't know what's going on and
Speaker 1: you saw the childcare center fire bombing, the premier and
Speaker 1: the Prime minister there before nine am. Now, generally speaking, Joe,
Speaker 1: as we remember from old fashioned reporting, generally speaking, incident
Speaker 1: could happen in the middle of the night, the police
Speaker 1: wouldn't say anything until roughly before nine am. Then the politicians,
Speaker 1: if they get involved, it's eleven to one. So that's
Speaker 1: just explaining the old TikTok of how it generally has
Speaker 1: worked in the past. Now let's talk about the inflation
Speaker 1: numbers today. Now the Reserve Bank, it's got to cut.
Speaker 1: It really does, because we are at this point in
Speaker 1: time and I don't want to give the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: a leg up, and I don't think it gives the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister a leg up. I truly don't. But we're
Speaker 1: in a per capita recession and have been for eighteen months.
Speaker 1: With normal people, the amount of money that they are
Speaker 1: spending on interest rates is crippling and we've seen all
Speaker 1: of the different consequences that extend through to choices about food,
Speaker 1: medicine and difficulties of people going back to back to school.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they're in a position where they're
Speaker 1: going to be forced to it or are we falling
Speaker 1: into the political trap of the Prime Minister and his
Speaker 1: team want to play, which is in the same way
Speaker 1: interest rates was exclusively the decision of the mustache twirling
Speaker 1: monocle holding out of touch millionaire Reserve that if Michelle
Speaker 1: Bullock doesn't then she gets put back into that hole.
Speaker 1: And basically it's not the government, it's the RBA. The
Speaker 1: RBA the RBI.
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's not to be overlooked that there's
Speaker 7: the new board in place, and what the dynamics of
Speaker 7: that are going to be, I don't know. But with
Speaker 7: it coming down to three point two, obviously that's very
Speaker 7: close to the three percent.
Speaker 13: But but what.
Speaker 7: Really counts is what you pay at the supermarket, what
Speaker 7: you pay for your fuel, what you pay for your electricity,
Speaker 7: and the big one that hits you whammy is insurance.
Speaker 7: Now they are all going through the roof services are
Speaker 7: lying at four point three. So there is an expectation
Speaker 7: that when interest rates come down, and presumably the banks
Speaker 7: will follow and there will be a reduction of your
Speaker 7: your mortgage payments, but they expect other costs to come
Speaker 7: down too. Clearly, the way electricity is provided or not provided,
Speaker 7: as the case may be, that's not going to come down.
Speaker 13: It's going to continue to rise.
Speaker 7: And with regard to what happens at the supermarket, those
Speaker 7: prices aren't going to collapse either. Vegie might which used
Speaker 7: to be five dollars will still be seven dollars thirty.
Speaker 13: So the expectation I think that people have.
Speaker 7: Is that should interest rates come down, then we'll see
Speaker 7: a lowering of the cost of living. I don't think
Speaker 7: that's the case. I think there will be a relief
Speaker 7: of pressure on mortgage and every percentage point that comes
Speaker 7: down is a relief to people because it really.
Speaker 13: Has been hard so and will remain hard.
Speaker 7: And I think some of those high employment figures are
Speaker 7: counting people who have two.
Speaker 13: Jobs, not one job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, part of what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: calculate us with literally we speak here, right in December
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, insurance when up five points. In December
Speaker 1: it went up by eight point one points, and in
Speaker 1: December of last year it went up by five points.
Speaker 1: All right, So according to my rough number here, it's
Speaker 1: about eighteen point three percent that it's gone up since
Speaker 1: the last connection. This is the fundamental political problem for
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister is that of today's industry might lead
Speaker 1: to tomorrow's decision, but the lived experience is when it
Speaker 1: comes to that particular slice of the economy. And I
Speaker 1: can do the same for you know, milk, bread, eggs,
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. Right, the reality is the
Speaker 1: bloke who's still there. How many times have I said,
Speaker 1: shown you the poster I promised to lower the cost
Speaker 1: of living reality in insurance eighteen percent.
Speaker 12: Yeah, insurance premiums are absolutely shocking. I just got hit
Speaker 12: by one the other day, and you know, it's the
Speaker 12: sort of stuff you don't even want to open the
Speaker 12: email I don't want to open, Like I think that
Speaker 12: is just shameless price gouging. I do not think it's
Speaker 12: that's not market forces, that's exploiting. I think the cost
Speaker 12: of a high inflation environment where I think, well, now's
Speaker 12: our time to do it. Because let's not forget, insurers
Speaker 12: have been doing this for decades. This is not something
Speaker 12: that has just happened over the last eighteen months or
Speaker 12: two years. This is something that was talked about when
Speaker 12: John Howard of course very famously said we need to
Speaker 12: help people pay for private health insurance because the premiums
Speaker 12: are just far too high. And so this is something
Speaker 12: that's happening that the insurers have been doing since time immemorial.
Speaker 12: The three point two figure that you mentioned that strips
Speaker 12: out those volatile things like power and fuel, and so
Speaker 12: that is obviously the one the RBA is watching. The
Speaker 12: headline rate is at two point four, which is all
Speaker 12: lower than everyone expected, which even then everyone thought would
Speaker 12: be enough for the RBA to cut rates. So I
Speaker 12: think by its own measure, the RBA pretty much, based
Speaker 12: on everything it said today, it pretty much has to
Speaker 12: cut rates. The thing is that the new board hasn't
Speaker 12: actually come into.
Speaker 1: Bunbo says the worst of it is over or where
Speaker 1: only the crist he can point to that. But if
Speaker 1: the reality is that the only way you measure it
Speaker 1: is by whether the increases have increased or whether the
Speaker 1: increases are not as big as the previous increases. The
Speaker 1: reality is the question in the Peter Dunn is going
Speaker 1: to put is compared to data three.
Speaker 12: That's right. But because inflation is so low, it is
Speaker 12: now below wages growth. So inflation is now about two
Speaker 12: point four, wage growths about four four point five. So
Speaker 12: so that means, yes, that that jar of veggie might
Speaker 12: will not go lower. Okay, get this means it rises.
Speaker 1: If you're in the public sector and got a pay
Speaker 1: it won't come down. Yeah, I haven't had.
Speaker 7: But the bottom line is the Treasury came out and
Speaker 7: said this is what we've been planning for.
Speaker 13: We've done all this.
Speaker 7: So he's really saying we've been planning to have your
Speaker 7: cost of living remained stable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the same way. This is using
Speaker 1: Charmer's logic against him.
Speaker 12: The charmers will go down compared to wait, so wages
Speaker 12: will rise no higher than inflation.
Speaker 1: That is where they are right now.
Speaker 12: I know and haven't been.
Speaker 13: Literally, this is what we've been planning for.
Speaker 12: To try to bring it down plan for the crisis.
Speaker 7: First place, he said, this is what we've been planning for,
Speaker 7: and it's to be better for people.
Speaker 12: Will will eventually because while prices will not go.
Speaker 1: Down after right, twenty thirty, all right, lots to fire
Speaker 1: up about God to it. Yeah, will be how many
Speaker 1: years into forty years of budget deficits. That's their estimate.
Speaker 1: By the way, quick breakback with more here on Port
Speaker 1: Murray lied more with these guys. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for watching nothing like Joe Hildebrand and Bromma Bishop you
Speaker 1: in the man Cave. I love when we have a
Speaker 1: full man cave. Its good to see now the polls
Speaker 1: they get better. For Peter Dutton, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: warning signs there, particularly when it comes to the gender breakdowns.
Speaker 1: But interestingly that gender breakdown also was about eighteen to
Speaker 1: thirty four year olds, which generally speaking is skewed left.
Speaker 1: The actual headline of that story was if there is
Speaker 1: a bunch of blokes that are moving that might nulla
Speaker 1: FI the overall loss in that area, while thirty five
Speaker 1: to fifty five and fifty five plus is moving towards
Speaker 1: the Coalition. So I think some people intentionally at times
Speaker 1: misinterpreted how all of that worked. But where we sit
Speaker 1: at the end of January, how do we sit here,
Speaker 1: Bromwin and what do you think about people's those people
Speaker 1: telling Newspole the coalition voters. My most likely thing that
Speaker 1: I think is going to happen. We're going to win
Speaker 1: a majority. My message to those people is great, settle down,
Speaker 1: help it happen. That help it happen.
Speaker 13: That's it. Dutton has a chance to do it. It's not
Speaker 13: an easy.
Speaker 7: Chance, but he certainly has a chance, and I think
Speaker 7: he will do it, whether it's in his own right
Speaker 7: or a minority. It's got to feel about twenty ten
Speaker 7: about it.
Speaker 13: It really does.
Speaker 7: And I was pretty confident being in the middle of
Speaker 7: that campaigning that as I went from seat to seat,
Speaker 7: you could gauge it.
Speaker 13: The fear was there.
Speaker 7: There was a response, and if it hadn't been for
Speaker 7: the two treacherous x Nace. Then Tony Abbott would have
Speaker 7: been Prime minister then, and he would have been Prime
Speaker 7: Minister then with a smaller backbench, which actually would have
Speaker 7: made it easier for it.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, correct than many of the people whose full
Speaker 1: time job was to pop around at the Ghosts office
Speaker 1: in the first three years. Joe, you're an albow whisperer.
Speaker 1: You are at the very least aware of what they felt,
Speaker 1: of what they felt was working for them three years ago.
Speaker 1: When you have a look at these numbers again, if
Speaker 1: you're a betting man, literally the bookies are saying that
Speaker 1: there would be a change of government. However, sort of
Speaker 1: the thirty thousand foot political thing is to say, well
Speaker 1: seventy six without the teals there in your.
Speaker 12: Sense, Yeah, I think you can get lost in the
Speaker 12: weeds on these things and breaking down little demographics or
Speaker 12: you know, looking at the seat by seats.
Speaker 1: I know, thank you, I do it every night.
Speaker 12: Very much. I'm with you, and the vibe the momentum
Speaker 12: is clearly with Peter Dutton. You'd be mad not to
Speaker 12: recognize that Labor will do a very sort of intensive,
Speaker 12: sort of tactical seat by seat campaign. I've said I'm
Speaker 12: not sure if it's ever been published, but it's a
Speaker 12: contest but sort of strategy and tactics label run a tactical.
Speaker 1: About that job.
Speaker 12: Of course, of course not, but Dunton will be selling
Speaker 12: the big picture of this country is broke. We're going backwards.
Speaker 12: Everything's screwed. And the only way you can fix this
Speaker 12: to change the government. I think if there is a
Speaker 12: rate cut, which I'm literally hoping and praying for, I
Speaker 12: think Albo can scrape home in minority. But you know,
Speaker 12: have senior labor sort of mastermind said to me just
Speaker 12: earlier tonight. I think Dunton is right to be favorite.
Speaker 12: I think he should be favorite. It's it's very hard
Speaker 12: to see a scenario in which either side gets a majority.
Speaker 12: That's not saying much.
Speaker 1: I mean given and again not enough people talk about
Speaker 1: the idea that like ten fifteen percent of people see
Speaker 1: in other another can be independent or one nation or
Speaker 1: something else. That is, which means preferences matter. If that
Speaker 1: other preferences the lives, they're going to win an election, right,
Speaker 1: If they don't, then they're going to be back where
Speaker 1: they would.
Speaker 7: Still goes back to the question of the teals to
Speaker 7: a degree, and as I say, there's no Blue and Teal,
Speaker 7: it's all green, and we've got one of those in mckella.
Speaker 7: We've got a good, good candidate in James Brown, who
Speaker 7: led the protests against the.
Speaker 1: Council is Red Moss.
Speaker 7: Seriously, seven people voted for it or eight people voted
Speaker 7: for it, although eight people need to be voted out.
Speaker 7: And then I get really bloody angry parton me because.
Speaker 1: She's working Blue tonight. She's going no, no, no, she's really
Speaker 1: bloody angry. Get in there, ripping. Do you want some
Speaker 1: Bundy to fire it up? Sixty three percent tax? But
Speaker 1: get in there all right?
Speaker 7: Forwards Don Howard because he didn't allow us to have
Speaker 7: any liberal candidates.
Speaker 12: That's right, and this is what we get them. No
Speaker 12: matter who the Teal's back in government, I think they
Speaker 12: kind of screwed. Like if they're back in Dutton, everyone,
Speaker 12: all the greenies, the lefties will run away, They run
Speaker 12: away back in labor, all that sort of you know,
Speaker 12: doctor's wives, you know.
Speaker 13: That absolutely, you know.
Speaker 7: But I'm having conversations in the electrics that I couldn't
Speaker 7: have had six twelve months ago, where I'll be in
Speaker 7: a shop and I literally made that statement looking at
Speaker 7: a leather handbag, and the proprietors say, well, it comes
Speaker 7: in teal.
Speaker 13: I said, oh no, not teal. That's all green, and.
Speaker 7: A couple of they all said, yes, no, we don't
Speaker 7: want any teal, and that wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, no teal in this jacket. I'm just wearing
Speaker 1: a green because you know, whatever rock and roll in
Speaker 1: my tal Thank you do appreciate it. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: other big issues, including a bit of un banking and
Speaker 1: the rest of it. And the next time we reconvene.
Speaker 1: That's our show tonight. We'll see you again tomorrow. You're
Speaker 1: on Paul Murray Life.