WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 29 January 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:06.960 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live, Happy 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.720 hump Day, halfway through the week, on our way to 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.720 the first weekend for many and the working year of 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.720 twenty twenty five, the election year. How good is tonight 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.160 going to be? Broumin Bishop Joehilder Brandy in the man Cave, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.520 fighting it out on all issues great and small. Extending 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.320 from what Sharry just had in her program conversation in 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.760 and around interest rates. Now, as you know, the inflation 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.160 figure is heading the direction that the government wants because 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.239 they want the political uptick of a cut in the 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.040 reserve bank rate. As you know, we're the lowest inflation 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:39.199 rate in the best part of four years. There's an 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.160 asterisk in all of this. I don't no one really 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.120 cares about the detail, but I will follow it in 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.800 the moment or two time. But just in case there 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.159 was any doubt about where the independent journalists are. They 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.720 don't view this as anything financial. They view this as 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.920 exclusively political. This actually happened on the news. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.520 The light at the end of the tunnel for mortgage 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.080 holders is closer tonight with the release of better than 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.120 expected inflation data. Financial markets now put the chance of 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.360 an interest rate cut in February at ninety percent. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:15.080 After years of hikes, hurting and hip pocket harm, finally 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:16.600 a welcome set of numbers. 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.080 And you should have seen when the newsreader was handing 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.880 over to the reporter. Oh, it was excellent and wonderful news, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.080 the best political news and government could hope for. I didn't 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.640 think they were cheering for one side or the other, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.040 but of course they all are. You know that for 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.640 his part, the Treasurer was putting the best spin on Yes, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.880 good numbers. No one's going to pretend they're not good numbers. 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:40.920 Underlying inflation is now at its lowest in three years. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:46.080 These are very welcome developments. Inflation is now almost a 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.680 third of the six point one percent that we inherited 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.200 when we came to office. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.600 Now I agree with those that say it is time 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.120 for the Reserve Bank to cut rates. Why not because 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.360 of the politics, but because we've suffered for long enough. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.120 The per capita recession in the country has gone on 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.520 for the best part of eighteen months. Normal people have 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.399 been squeezed too tight for too long. Again, I don't 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.079 keep what the political consequences are, but also a reminder 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.160 about what inflation numbers that come out each month or 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:21.120 each quarter show us it's not just because inflation increases 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.760 went here and then the increases are not as much. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:29.480 They're still Imagine a continuous line of how much things 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.680 have gone up, and over the past three years they 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.160 have gone up well, and truly, you name it, it 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.320 has gone up. Now to give you an idea that 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.680 while yes, electricity was low because of the subsidies that 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.200 are being offered to everyone from the biggest homes in 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.240 the country to the smallest ones in country towns. And 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.720 the overall inflation has a two in front of it, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.760 the core inflation has a three in front of it. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.760 Even when it's a beautiful set of numbers, have a 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.320 look if you purchase any of these things that are 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.239 above average inflation, meaning the only reason the average number 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.200 gets pulled down is because of the artificial things the 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.880 government has done here. Tobacco year on year, it's up 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.760 twelve percent. Education, year on year, it's up six and 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.480 a half percent. Rent year on year, up six percent, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.079 alcohol and tobacco insurance all the five in front of it, 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:25.239 Fruit and veg well and truly above the average rate, 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.080 meat and seafood, gas, and of the households, health, non 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.920 alcoholic beverages, alcohol food products, and of course alcohol and 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:38.520 non alcoholic beverages together all above the high number. Now, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.320 the reality might be that the Prime Minister thinks that 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:44.960 he's going to be onto some sort of a political 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.840 winning here because of the reserve bank cuts as a 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.360 result of these numbers. Then the soft landing is on 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.520 its way. Well, I'll give you the tip. The only 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.120 people that are having the soft landing are the people 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.960 who've had enough cushion for the landing. The idea that 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.000 people who have been under the pump for three years, 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.720 ye might receive moderate and I repeat moderate relief on 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.280 one of the things that are not going to go 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.760 down in prices yet again up but just by a 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.560 smaller margin next month, the quarter after that, and the 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.479 quarter after that. Because that's the way that companies work. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.920 As soon as they are able to get away with 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.200 being able to charge a certain amount for whatever reason, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:25.039 it never gets reversed. Prices don't go backwards because the 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.520 economy gets better. They just assume that you're going to 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:32.600 put up with it, and largely people will. The artificial 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.239 effects are that a government that is about to preside 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:41.040 over forty budget deficits into our future that has structurally built, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.560 as I explained in great chapter and verse last night, 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.880 a tax system that is in revolving around sixty three 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.080 percent of a bottle of booze going to the government, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:56.560 not the company that makes it. The government shows that 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:58.880 all of this is about the surface level. All of 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.600 this is about the pos politics. Of course, the polls 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.200 at this stage, who knows if they're going to be 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.640 moving any time soon. Prime Minister would hope they're wrong 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.599 and will start moving between now and the next federal election. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.000 But wasn't power supposed to be down by two hundred 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.120 and seventy five dollars by twenty twenty five? Is your 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:23.280 power down? And yeah, if interest rates go from and 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.240 there've been thirteen interest rate rises since twenty twenty two, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.839 there have been twelve under Elbow's watch. If the pressure 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.600 on paying off your house goes back to the eleventh 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.960 or the tenth interest rate rise, is anyone going to 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.960 be singing hallelujah? As I told you last night, Western 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:44.080 Australia average home loan about four hundred thousand dollars. The 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.640 best part of interest that you pay off in your 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.160 four hundred thousand dollars is about sixty nine thousand dollars 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.479 and that has gone up by about half since this 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.719 government came to power. So let's not muck around you, 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.599 which is why perhaps the most interesting numbers politically for 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.920 those of us that talk about politics all an, all 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.880 night for a living came not from the Australian Bureau 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.160 Statistics today but the old fashioned bookies. Now, as I've 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.120 shown since last year, they have put a position where 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:12.760 they believe there's going to be a change of government. Well, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.000 the odds for the Labour Party blew out even further 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.279 today Coalition favored at a dollar seventy two according to 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.800 sports Bet. Remember sports Bet thought that Labor was going 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.200 to win in twenty nineteen, so you don't bet the house. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.479 But still interesting that they are saying that, even on 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.520 a day of good news and the beginning of potential 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.280 political recovery and all the rest of it, at the 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.120 camp Press Gallery is desperate to talk about, they are 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.120 saying the Coalition forms the next government, exactly which version 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:39.920 of it be it majority a minority, will all find 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:43.039 out together. They've also shown us some of the seats 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.880 that might be up for grabs. Now they have listed 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.560 a whole bunch of seats that are basically safe seats, 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.479 a marginal seat that Labour currently holds and is about 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:57.800 to put Rebecca White, the multiple time loser and Labor 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.880 leader in Tasmania into well, she would lose seat again. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.359 One of the places where the Coalition would be picking 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.320 up a seat, according to the bookies, that moves them 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.640 to their overall conclusion would begin in Tasmania. That would 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.600 mean they would have Bass and Lions on either side, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.040 and presumably Bradden might move across, so there could be 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.960 two seats out of Tasmania. Watch this space. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:21.560 Now further. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.680 The polls Guardian the Turmal Times today they launched their 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.120 poll of polls, their analysis of trying to work out 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.920 exactly what the trends have been over the past couple 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.800 of years. And as we start to focus on the 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.760 past couple of months, while the Prime Minister's playing a 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.520 home game on taxpayer television, the opposition leader was leading 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.440 an all star squad Leo Finooki Airo and you send 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.840 a price through Alice Springs. They played a blinder today. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:46.640 Those two women are going to play a major, major 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.920 role in the upcoming election. Campaign, I promise you that. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.080 So let's have a look at what they have been 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:57.920 able to conclude about voter support via today the Labour 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.120 Party is down from the federal election by five point 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.760 eight percent. The Libs are up by three point six, 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.960 the Greens are up by almost a point, the others 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.080 are up by one point eight. If you're doing your mats, 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.480 there's a fair amount left over. They don't say with 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.040 the rest that is, whether that's in the don't know 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.200 basket or it's moving into places like One Nation. I 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.320 don't know, whether it's moving into independence, I don't know. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.640 But another pole showed us what could be a sleeper 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.520 issue that Peter Dutton should start talking about more. And 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.720 that's a policy which he announced in the budget in 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:39.600 reply speech last year. Now the pole which is very 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.640 clear here and shows that the Morgan pole actually sorry 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.439 in two party preferred it too is showing that the 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.920 Libs are up this time two forty eight. That's on 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.920 top of fifty one forty nine that was there for Newspole. Again, 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.760 it's all about the trend. The trend is the friend. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.800 That's what we're talking about here. But this sleeper issue 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.760 that Peter Dutton should be talking about. It is all 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:05.520 to do with banning people from overseas being able to 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.199 buy property in Australia. Now I know for a fact 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.840 because people have looked me in the eye and said it, 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.599 that people who have never voted Liberal would plan to 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.160 vote Liberal if they thought that the Liberal Party had 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.920 a plan to make it easier for kids to buy 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:27.280 a house. Banning foreign buyers would be that now the 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.360 Greens had their plan. Labor well, it's always taxpayer money. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.040 But the idea of reducing the number of people at 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.760 the auction by banning the overseas buyer is a brilliant idea. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.720 I repeat, it ain't a new idea, but it's one 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.000 that for some reason the Opposition does not focus on 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.680 as much as they should. He was that announcement back 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.480 in well last year. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.679 In my twenty two years in Parliament, I've seen good 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.160 and bad budgets, but the budget handed down on Tuesday 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.200 night is one of the most irresponsible I've seen. We 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.480 believe that by rebalancing the migration program and taking decisive 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.320 action on the housing crisis, the Coalition can free up 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:09.080 almost forty thousand additional homes in the first year and 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.360 well over one hundred thousand homes in the first five years. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.560 Well today, Sidney Monty Herald and The Age Brisbane Times 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.600 they did a poll about what people thought of this issue, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.520 and guess what, they love it. There are very few 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.240 things that the opposition has on the table outside of 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.040 a rejection of the government on cost of living, that 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.920 is as popular as this. Sixty nine percent of people 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.679 support a two year ban on foreign citizens and temporary 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:40.680 residents being able to buy property in Australia. Sixty percent 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:45.080 of Labor voters support the idea, fifty eight percent of 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.360 Green's voters, almost eighty percent of people already planning to 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.760 vote for the coalition, But the big number is the 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.520 one on the bottom left hand corner. Seventy three percent, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:02.320 almost three quarters of people in marginal seats put the idea. Now, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.120 I'm glad that they want to get Astraightia back on track, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.719 and there's all these other things that are around it. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.160 And I'm not suggesting that they don't know what they're doing, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.200 but I'm saying, if something's got three quarters of the 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.160 country in marginal seats supporting it, start talking about it, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.440 get the ads, go force the issue, remind people that 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.320 it was your idea. It was your idea first, and 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.080 even if the Labour Party try to find a way 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:28.280 to match it, sing it loud and proud, it is 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.640 your idea and it is one that is seemingly incredibly popular. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.040 In fact, another question asked here is what about making 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.760 that permanent bugger two years, forty seven percent of people 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.680 say that should be the permanent law of the land. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:46.440 No temporary residents, no part timers, no overseas buyers, just 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.199 people that are citizens of this country being able to 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.640 buy property in this country. This is great because if 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.360 it removes a couple of people from an auction who 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.240 with unlimited money due to the exchange rate, or people 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.439 trying to move money out of other countries, it means 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.760 that the race to the absolute tippy top in an 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.240 auction slows down. Now, this policy, which is supported by 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.479 I repeat seventy three percent of people in marginal electorates, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.880 a majority of Labor and Green voters too, is the 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:24.760 very policy that lefty commentators like lefty Laura Tingle over 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.720 there at the ABC. Remember she was also worried that 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.000 this would produce mass racism. I repeat, sixty nine percent 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:36.520 of all voters seventy three percent of people in marginal electorates. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.720 The issue alone could rebalance the election. 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:42.800 Y fashion for. 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.160 People turning out to try to read a property or 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.000 in an auction and they look to be different, what 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.920 do you define different as basically has given. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.400 Them license the views One of the dumbest and nastiest 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.920 things I have heard out of somebody who supposedly knows better, 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.400 but remember to criticize her as bad for her and 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.600 bad for the ABC bugg of that, I'm going to 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:09.720 keep reminding you of where they are versus those huge 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.440 percentages that I've just mentioned. I'm also going to do 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.720 something that nobody else does, and that is talk about 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.760 some of the ideas of minor parties. One nation has 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:25.800 served up a very interesting idea about taxation now as 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.559 it currently works. Of course, there is a family income. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.000 But if you're in a scenario where one of you 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.080 is working, one of you is not well, one of 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.720 you ends up paying the tax, but you end up 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.000 paying the tax at the tax rate as if you 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.520 were the only person living in the house. So if 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.360 you're earning forty five or eighty thousand dollars or one 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.360 hundred and eighty thousand dollars, while the reality is that 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.880 your wage is paying for two and maybe two more 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.320 depending if you've got kids. Well, the idea that comes 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.559 from one nation, I think is a. 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:04.240 Ripper proposing couples with children could split their taxable income. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.600 Pointing to an example of one parent earning one hundred 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:11.320 and twenty thousand and one parent staying at home. Currently, 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.280 they paid twenty nine thousand, four hundred and sixty seven 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.000 dollars tax, but splitting incomes at sixty thousand dollars each 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.800 would reduce their tax to nineteen thousand, nine hundred and 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.120 thirty four brilliant. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.000 The single greatest source of revenue to the federal government 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.360 is people like those two and also woke about whom 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.040 they think is staying at home and who they think 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.600 is working, as the typical example of the modern Australian family. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.840 But you get one point. This is a good idea 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.800 because the reality is when whoever it is, be it 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:49.000 mum or dad, husband or wife de facto or de facto, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.200 who is the one who was actually earning the money, 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.160 The reality is that money is not like it is 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.160 being spent on themselves. They're spending it on everyone else 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.800 all of the other dependents that are in the house. 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.400 I think it's a great idea. I'm sorry, I've just 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.160 had enough of the way that the system works, which is, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.000 despite all of the talk about getting tough on companies, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.720 they raise more money out of your wages and the 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:16.000 tax you pay on your wage than company tax. It's 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.440 multiple times what they make out of the GST. And 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:27.000 don't forget on top of all of that beer, wine, spirits, SIGs, petrol, 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.120 that's how they make their money. Buger them. Let the 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.240 people keep their own money because they are having to 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:37.600 pay bills higher than ever before. And even if inflation 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.560 comes down to a one in front of it, it 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.120 still means that the prices are going up by one 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:47.560 percent percent. It's when it's minus minus that the prices 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.160 are going down. Just because the graph makes it look 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.920 like the prices are going they're not going down. You 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.280 know it, I know it. But wait for the bs 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.400 being spun by the media who desperately want one side 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.240 to win and one side to have no chain. It's 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.720 whatsoever bit of breaking news on top of what you've 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.960 already heard tonight in and around the terror plot in 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:10.480 Sydney caravan found in the northwest Peri urban area called 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:15.200 Dural in New South Wales. The caravan stacked with enough 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:21.640 explosives to blow a forty meter radius in terms of 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.480 blowing things up. Now you know what the targets were. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:28.280 This is a terror plot. It is targeted of the 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.720 Jewish community. But let's not say that it's about Andy Semitic. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.280 It is a terror plot all right. Now. The breaking 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.240 news tonight is the owner of the caravan has been arrested. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.480 Whether they will be charged and what with I make 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.760 no assumptions, but we will all find out and hopefully 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:47.320 know as the hour rolls on. As you know, the 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:53.120 police announced what the potential plan here was. As you heard, 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.960 the premiere of New South Wales was particularly fired up. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.560 The vast majority of people in New South Wales find 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:06.280 this behavior abborn, appalling against all of the values and 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.959 beliefs that we share in New South Wales, and we 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.520 will defeat them. 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.600 Now. Good on the person who discovered it, Good on 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.560 the person who reported it, and I share the frustration 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.320 that many do that The little detail in all of 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.160 this is that it was first reported ten days ago, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:29.399 meaning the police got this caravan ten days ago. It 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:31.960 is only the reporting of Mark Murray the Daily Telegraph 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.399 that we know about this tonight. But here is the 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:40.520 police explanation for how long ago and why we have 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.720 not been told that this happened nine days ago. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.600 Investigations into over the last ten days have progressed. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.320 However, there is a lot to do. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:57.399 There are ongoing investigations which need to be conducted. Ideally 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.960 those investigations conducted with some form of anonymity. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.840 Now I've written the rollercoaster like everyone else and trying 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.000 to work out exactly where I would land right now 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.159 in terms of this ten day delay. Now, I have 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.480 absolutely no problem with a reporter reporting what they know. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.400 That's the way that it works, which means it's out 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:22.639 and about now. But this show is pro cop I believe, 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.080 and I give the benefit of the doubt to the 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:29.040 police that they were trying to keep it quiet because 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.080 they were trying to follow the different trails that would 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.760 result in people being arrested. Now we've seen that some 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.240 people on the periphery of this were arrested. Now the 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.080 owner of the caravan has, according to some media outlets, 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.199 been arrested. I give the benefit of the doubt to 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:50.119 the investigators because they literally are trying to find needles 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:54.840 inside a dozen haystacks that have been blown around in 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.919 the wind. It is a tough and difficult job, and 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.119 just like all canter terrorism efforts, they have to to 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.720 get it right one hundred percent of the time for 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.960 people's lives to be saved. Thank goodness, in this case, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.520 that remains the case. If there is political leadership or 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:12.080 anyone else who tried to silence the story, I'll come 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.000 down on you like the ton of bricks. But as 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.399 I said, I've ridden the rollercoaster of emotion. I was 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.119 ready to rip into everyone for why didn't we hear 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.960 about this for ten days? I have no problem with 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.119 the reporting. Once you've got a story, good publish go 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.359 Ten days is a long period of time for the 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.280 public not to know what potentially could have happened. But 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.360 the benefit of the doubt, for me goes to the police. 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.600 We need them to have the confidence of the community, 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.240 the confidence of the community, because it is their hard 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:43.119 work that will stop this garbage, that will stop this 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.640 garbage in the supposedly minor forms that we have heard 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.200 about day in, day out, or the major form. While 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.040 it's good that the premiere is the one who's beating 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:54.840 his chest and telling us it's not going to happen again. 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.520 It's all happened in his city, on his watch, with 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.920 his laws. All right, So the benefit of the doubt 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.040 is being tested. But I give the benefit of the 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.000 doubt to the people that are doing the hard work. 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:10.439 We are pro cop on this show. We're also pro 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.960 the emergency services, especially those of you who are the volunteers. 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.919 There's been a bushfire that's been blowing for a while 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:22.440 in the past couple of days in rural Victoria. Now, 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:28.920 we have followed a story since the bushfires of nineteen 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.840 sorry of nineteen and twenty, and that was that there 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:39.600 are a collection of people inside the volunteer firefighter networks 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.600 that are saying the trucks that they are being sent 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.439 out to fight fires like the ones that you have 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.160 just seen are not up to scratch, that they are unsafe, 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.920 that they would firstly not do the job and secondly 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:57.080 could result in injury or loss of life. Well, today, 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.119 the fieries have voted to no longer get into the 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:05.040 trucks that are not up to scratch. This story has 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:08.800 been known for more than five years. The Victorian government 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:12.159 has been in place for more than five years. The 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:16.000 Victorian government has said that they are doing something about it. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.000 But if five years later they have not, then there 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:23.679 is a head that has to roll. To all of 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.800 those that are following this story, well done to everyone 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.160 who volunteers to fight the fires in very difficult conditions 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.480 with at times what we learn to be crappy equipment. 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.240 It is not acceptable. There was problems with the equipment 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.679 in the act fires, and there are problems with the 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.920 equipment in Victoria. If there are problems with any other equipment, 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:44.800 and I'm not talking about people sending me an email 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.159 about one hose that doesn't work. If you know in 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.199 the volunteer services about a crappy truck that the government 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.520 knows about but it has not done anything about sending 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.239 an email, because I'm more than happy to shout from 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:01.320 the rooftops on your behalf because reasons. The self interest 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:05.119 of everyone here is to make sure that every possible 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.600 piece of equipment can be sent out to fight the 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:14.120 fires that will hopefully save lives and save people's properties. Okay. 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.399 Paulittskynews dot com dot Aupoultskynews dot com dot au to 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.520 a happy story. Here, what a spectacular story. Peter Bradley 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:27.320 is a person who has just won two silver medals 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:32.639 in a very specific form of swimming, and it is 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.879