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Speaker 1: We'd like to acknowledge that traditional custodians of the land

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Speaker 1: on which this podcast was produced, the Galligall people of

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Speaker 1: the orination. We pay our respects to Elder's past and present.

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Speaker 2: It's May twenty twenty two and we're off the coast

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Speaker 2: of Albany, Western Australia. Lisa Blair sets sail from here

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Speaker 2: ninety two days ago with a dream of becoming the

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Speaker 2: fastest person to sail solo, NonStop and unassisted around Antarctica.

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Speaker 2: The last ninety two days.

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Speaker 3: Haven't been easy.

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Speaker 2: She's battled blizzards, snowstorms, and waves as high as five

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Speaker 2: story buildings, but they're nothing compared to her first attempt

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, where she nearly didn't live to.

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Speaker 3: Tell the tale.

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Speaker 2: Resilience, drive and passion have propelled her to come back

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Speaker 2: and give it another go. It's all about to become

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Speaker 2: worth it. I'm Att Middleton and this is head Game today.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Blair on facing fear and smashing world records. Now, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: the first time we met was on Million Dollar Island.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very very vividly. I was super excited to meet

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Speaker 4: for me just as an adventurer. And yeah, it was

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Speaker 4: super fun to work with you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what talking about adventurer, I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: how much of an adventurer you were, but you are

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Speaker 2: someone who just absolutely thrives on adventure.

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Speaker 3: Sailing is.

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Speaker 2: Bespoke, I would say, sport. When did you first get

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Speaker 2: into it? And when did you first think, right, it'd

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Speaker 2: be great to tackle all of these, all of these

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks aside from all them, like mindset side

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Speaker 4: And I first got on a boat, like I'd been

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Speaker 2: When's the first time that you actually set sail by yourself?

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Speaker 2: Was there any doubt at all when you first took

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Speaker 4: I think I was shaking like a leaf when I

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Speaker 4: But originally my mindset fully shifted from the kind of

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Speaker 4: So two years earlier, I had never sailed around the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It was really It's funny because initially when someone

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Speaker 3: And you know, just say between us, it's now it's going.

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Speaker 4: To be us and a million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah how much? Yeah, exactly how much?

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Speaker 2: You know, funding do you need to sail unassisted around

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Speaker 4: For a record of that scale. The biggest budget factor

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's insane. And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: The preparation, the planning, and also for you to have

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Speaker 4: Ultimately it's critical, and ultimately like the amount of stress

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Speaker 2: Take me back to the day that you set off

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Speaker 4: Absolute chaos stations because I was still so behind like

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Speaker 2: Start thinking about the positives. Well, then all the negatives

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Speaker 4: Probably would have been very sure start right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So when was that moment? Do you remember

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Speaker 2: Wow, what was the game plan in your in your head?

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Speaker 2: You know, how many days did you envision it would take?

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Speaker 4: set the record in one hundred and two days, and

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Speaker 4: he competed as a racetrack called the Antarctica Cup Ocean Racetrack,

434
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 4: which meant that he had these sort of latitude guidelines

435
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 4: that once he entered into this formal kind of racetrack,

436
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 4: he wasn't allowed to exit it after he entered onto

437
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 4: the track or he avoided the record. So if I'm

438
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 4: challenging his record, I had the same kind of rules

439
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 4: as him. So it was an estimated distance of around

440
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: fourteen thousand nautical miles to be sailed three months hopefully,

441
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 4: if I'm breaking Fedor's record, and I had to start

442
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 4: and finish from Albany and Western Australia because that's where

443
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 4: Fedor started from, and then sailed directly south until I

444
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 4: entered into the gated entry point at forty five degrees south.

445
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 4: So if you imagine, like the southern tip of Tasmania

446
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: is roughly forty five south, and then the bottom end

447
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 4: of the racetrack is sixty south, which would be like

448
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 4: the most northern tip of the Antarctic peninsula. So that

449
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 4: gap between that southern ocean section, that open ocean bit,

450
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: that was my racetrack. So once I entered, I then

451
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 4: turned left and just started heading towards Cape Horn or

452
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 4: South America.

453
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Speaker 2: Wow, and this is your first attempt. You've got that

454
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: vision in your head. Did you settle into a routine

455
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: quite quick? Just talk us through a day to day

456
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: in the life of yourself on that boat, when things

457
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: were panning out, and when you sort of got into rhythm.

458
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: I took about two weeks on that record to really

459
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 4: feel like I had recovered from the stress of land life,

460
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 4: just getting to the start line, like all that pushing, pushing, pushing,

461
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 4: working cuvier, late, sleeping, no sleep, and then the whole

462
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 4: trip when I'm close to land or no one has

463
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: it so near shipping lanes, fishing destinations, islands or any

464
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 4: land pass, I'm sleeping twenty minute micro sleeps the whole time.

465
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 4: So I'll do a six to eight hour window, and

466
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 4: every twenty minutes, I wake up and scan the horizon

467
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: three sixty and I'd check my instruments for risks or

468
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 4: hazards that might be ahead of me, like icebergs, and

469
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 4: then I go back for another twenty minute sleep. So

470
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 4: I found that I ended up staying on the Australian

471
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 4: time zone, and so I would end up by like

472
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Speaker 4: halfway around the trip, I was like awake all night

473
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: and sleeping all day rather than like normal daylight hours.

474
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, and so then I would wake up at

475
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: maybe ten am or something after these twenty minute micro

476
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: sleeps for most of the night, and I'd scan the horizon,

477
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: I'd go up on deck and check the sales are good.

478
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: I'd eat something, and then, depending on what the requirements

479
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: of the boat were. So early on, I had a

480
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 4: little bit more free time because they hadn't broken as

481
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: many things. But as we got further along on the trip,

482
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 4: I was breaking things fairly frequently, and I would fix

483
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 4: it and break it and then fix it again and

484
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 4: then break it again, And so I spent a good

485
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 4: portion of my morning to sort of mid afternoon fixing

486
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 4: or doing repairs on the boat, and then I would

487
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: be getting a daily weather forecast coming through as well

488
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 4: from my meteorologist Bob mcdavitt on shore, and he would

489
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: be letting me know if a new polar cyclone's coming

490
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: or a big storm, or what's kind of like my

491
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 4: next three or four days going to look like, and

492
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 4: that would set up the rest of my day, because

493
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: if I've got a storm coming, I had to do

494
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 4: pre storm checks and set the boat up for the storm,

495
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 4: which included like getting the storm sails up, bolting the

496
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 4: floorboards down, doing things like steering checks, ringing checks, just

497
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: making sure she's safe to go through those conditions. And

498
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 4: if I was just after a storm, then I'd be

499
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 4: more maintenance because I had calmer conditions, so I'd get

500
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: more maintenance in and then I would try and get

501
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: another sleep in some stage in the afternoon if I

502
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 4: could just a two or three hour to fill me through,

503
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 4: and there'd normally be a weather change at sunset, and

504
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 4: a weather change around midnight, and a weather change at sunrise.

505
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 4: So generally at those times i'd either have to trim

506
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: the sails or i'd have to shorten them or increase

507
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 4: the sales as the conditions changed. So I'd just be

508
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 4: kind of winding down from the last sail change, having

509
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 4: a bite to eat for dinner, and then the next

510
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: sail change would come up, and then by like two am,

511
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: three am, I'd get back into my bunk and get

512
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: a couple of little sleeps in again. So I think

513
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: on average I was working on about two to four

514
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 4: hours a day of accumulated sleep most of the trip,

515
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 4: but any extra downtime was sleep banking and took.

516
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: Me through the nightmare day that you had.

517
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's what I like to call a bad day

518
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: in the office.

519
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bad day. Take me with that sect, get

520
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: straight to it.

521
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: Take me back to the bad day in the office.

522
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: So by this point I had been on record for

523
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: seventy two days. So I had sailed the whole South

524
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: Pacific Ocean. I'd been through storms that were generating waves

525
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: up to twelve meters. I had seen eighty knots of wind.

526
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 4: I had rounded what we call the mount Everest of Sailine,

527
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 4: which is Cape Horn, So we consider that the most

528
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 4: dangerous section of the world to sail around. And so

529
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 4: I'd rounded that, I'd passed through an area of ocean

530
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: called Iceberg Alley where there's the highest sensity of icebergs.

531
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 4: I'd gone through about two weeks of snowstorms, squalls, just

532
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 4: really tough, trying conditions. But the whole time the boat

533
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 4: felt good, like she felt solid, she felt like I

534
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: had no question mark on whether the boat could take it.

535
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: We were just going through like kind of the motions,

536
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: and we'd crossed the South Atlantic and we were just

537
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 4: exiting the South Atlantic and about to go into the

538
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 4: South Indian Ocean. And I was a thousand nautical miles

539
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: directly south of South Africa, so in the middle of nowhere,

540
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 4: absolute nowhere. And it wasn't morning. It was six pm

541
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 4: at night, and I happened to have been up for

542
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: a cat nap, been on deck, done my sunset deck checks.

543
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: I had a new storm building that night. The sea

544
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: say it was about six to eight meters, So imagine

545
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: like a two to three story building as a wave,

546
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: and that's kind of what you're sailing through. But you're

547
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 4: so desensitized to large waves because you've been in those

548
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: that environment for so long.

549
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: You've just sailed through those, right, You've just sailed through

550
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: what you thought it was the hardest point and now

551
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: you're sort of not on the back end of things,

552
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: but you're like, right.

553
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: It was the home stretch Australia.

554
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: In your mindset's would it prove you you think the

555
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: boat's good to go and.

556
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 4: Then and then you get that one percent of chaos. Yeah.

557
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: So yeah. So I was napping in my bunk and

558
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 4: I just heard this super loud bang, like it sounded

559
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 4: like I've never actually heard a real gunshot. You'd probably

560
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 4: be able to tell me this, but sounded like a

561
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: gunshot going off where there was like this metallic kind

562
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: of after ringing in my ear drum. And I launched

563
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 4: out of my bunk and onto my engine box. And

564
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: I have this little perspex clear dome on the top

565
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 4: of the engine box so I can look out without

566
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 4: physically having to kind of climb out of the boat.

567
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: And I jumped up on there, and I initially thought

568
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: it was something at the back of the boat that

569
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: had broken, so I like looked to the back of

570
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: the boat. It's just that sort of blue tinge of sunset,

571
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: like you know where you're just about to lose the

572
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: last bit of daylight so you can see enough, but

573
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 4: you're not it's not daylight still, And I looked back

574
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: and everything looked normal, And then I looked to the

575
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: front of the boat and all I could see was

576
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: my twenty two meter Like, Alamin, your mass just flexing

577
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: and bending like a hula girl shaking her hips, and

578
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 4: it really was just like warbling around like this crazy

579
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: movement that a mass should absolutely not have. And I

580
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: initially thought tack the boat, like change the direction of

581
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 4: the boat and put the pressure of the wind on

582
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: the non broken side, because I realized I've broken a

583
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: piece of rigging. And before I even had a chance

584
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: to do that, the mask came crashing down, and honestly,

585
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: like being so remote location and understanding how remote I was,

586
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: and knowing that this was one of those worst case

587
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: scenarios happening, listening to the sounds of the boat as

588
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: it's that twisting like metal or metal grind and shaking,

589
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: and all the forces on the boat have changed to

590
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: the whole boat shuddering around you, and I didn't like

591
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: I kind of knew that it was the mask, but

592
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know what other damage was taking place because

593
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 4: the shears noise, like the volume of it was like

594
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: just definitely loud and like if you've ever seen like

595
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: one of those car yards where they crushed the cars

596
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: and it's got that real high pitched metal grinding, like

597
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: nails down the chalkboard kind of sound. It was that

598
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: like amplified a thousand times inside the boat. And I

599
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: ran out on deck like I had my life jacket

600
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: on and my safety tether. So I clipped onto the

601
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: boat and I climbed out, and I looked forward, and

602
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: where my mask used to be was just air. There

603
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: was There was just nothing there and the like in

604
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: a traditional kind of dismasting. And for those listening who

605
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: don't know what a mask is, it's the sticky bit

606
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: that goes up on a sailboat that your sails fly on.

607
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: It's the tall part. And so it had snapped at

608
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: deck level like there was nothing standing out of the

609
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: boat anymore. And it's highly unlikely that it would normally

610
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 4: do that. But what happens now is I've got a

611
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: twenty two meter long spear tangled to the boat with

612
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: all the other rigging and the ropes and everything in

613
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: eight meter breaking seas about to go into a new

614
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: storm the size of a hurricane or a cyclone, and

615
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: I'm alone one thousand miles from land in crap conditions,

616
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: and what can happen is one of those waves can

617
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: drive the mass through the hull of the boat and

618
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: start sinking new And at the initial time of the emergency,

619
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 4: the bottom sort of two meters of the mass was

620
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: trapped on the deck by all those ropes. But these waves,

621
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: because I'm technically like now anchored in the middle of

622
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: a storm, so the boat drifted one hundred and eighty

623
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: degrees around because I was anchored on the sails and

624
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: the debris in the ocean, the volume of debris and

625
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: the ocean and the waves, these six to eight meter

626
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: waves were smashing into the mast and rigging first and

627
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: then driving it up onto the deck of the boat

628
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: and like forcing it forward, and then the whitewater would

629
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: hit the whole of the boat and shove the boat

630
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: out from kind of underneath the mass. And it became

631
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: so violent that it was basically starting to cut the

632
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: boat in half. And so it started to sow the

633
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: boat in half with the force behind this happening.

634
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: What is going through your mind, Lisa, when you're seeing this,

635
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: because you are now at the mercy of Mother nature.

636
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: You can't do anything. What do you do? What's going

637
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: through your head?

638
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: Initially it was on a loop going this is so

639
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: not good, this is so not good, This is so

640
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 4: not good, this is so not good. And it was

641
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: really like the panic stations. Like I had. I had

642
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: planned for a dismastering. I had planned for an emergency

643
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: like this, but I hadn't planned for the emotional response

644
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: of an emergency like that, and I hadn't really considered,

645
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: like I guess. I had tried to puzzle through how

646
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: I thought I would react, and I'd apply logic and

647
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: I would save the boat and it would all be

648
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: wonderful and there's rainbows and like pretty clouds and it's

649
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: all perfect. But real world doesn't happen that way. And

650
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: so the first sort of ten to fifteen minutes, I

651
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 4: just blindly was like, I've got to cut it free.

652
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: I've got to cut it free before it sinks the boat,

653
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: before one of those waves rips the mast off and

654
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 4: throws it through the hull. And I was extremely conscious

655
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: of the fact that if I had to abandon my

656
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: life raft, the sea state was going to build to

657
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: you know, ten meters that night, and this inflatable rubber

658
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: life raft. It's not going to survive, like it would

659
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: be a death sentence to abandon the boat. So my

660
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: only way of surviving was going to be to keep

661
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: that boat floating. And so initially it was that panic,

662
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: and it was the it was not really logically thinking

663
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: about it, but just thinking, I've got to get the

664
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: rigging free. I've got to get I've got to cut

665
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: it free. I've just got to get into it. And

666
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: so grab tools and I started trying to use the

667
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: bolt cutters. But the boat's pitching and rolling and hard swell,

668
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: and you got these waves are breaking clean across the

669
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: decks now, so you're not moving with the waves, so

670
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: you're not softening the blow of the waves anymore. You're

671
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: a hard object and the waves are hitting you like

672
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: a battery ram and when they hit they throw the

673
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: boat like fifty meters sideways, and then all the whitewater

674
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: like barrels across the top and you end up like

675
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: engulfed up to your neck in whitewater. And so just

676
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: holding on was hard, let alone trying to jump on

677
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: bolt cutters to cut like fourteen mil wire. And when

678
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: that became quite clear that that wasn't going to work.

679
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 4: I had another system i'd sort of pre thought of,

680
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: and it was what I like to call my dismasting kit,

681
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: and it was this set of tools in a hot

682
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: pink pencil case that was at the front of a locker,

683
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: easy to grab in an emergency and easy to find.

684
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: And it was basically a flathead screwdriver, a set of

685
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: needlenose pliers, a pair of multi grips, and a pair

686
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 4: of pliers. And the intention was to disconnect the piece

687
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: of rigging from the boat rather than trying to cut it.

688
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: And they have these tiny little pieces of metal called

689
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: a split pin, So my intention was to basically like

690
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: knock out the split pin, which was this joining pin

691
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: for the rigging, so that I wasn't cutting the ringing anymore,

692
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: but I was disconnecting it. And I guess, like, that's

693
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: quite different to do when you're on land, because on

694
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: land it's stable, it's quite a balanced boat. You're normally

695
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: in a marina or something it's flat. But in a

696
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: pitching seaway that was quite difficult. And so I put

697
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 4: my pliers into the fitting and tried to knock out

698
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: the split pin and wasn't working. That I tried the

699
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 4: flathead screwdriver. And at this point, I'm still so reactive

700
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: and I'm still in that panic stations, and I'm not

701
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 4: really thinking. I'm just thinking, I've got to get it free.

702
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: I've got to get it free. And I'm so fixated

703
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 4: on the fact that it has to get free in

704
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 4: like seconds that I'm not really thinking about the right

705
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: way to get it free necessarily. And I'm shaking so

706
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: hard that when I'm smashing this fitting trying to knock

707
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: it out and like hammer the screwdriver, I'm missing the

708
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: screwdriver and I'm striking my hand, and my whole left

709
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 4: hand like starts ballooning up. And after about fifteen minutes

710
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 4: of just trying and panicking, I think I've got no time.

711
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: I've got no time. I need more tools, and I

712
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: just bolt into the boat and I start tearing apast

713
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: my toolbox and I'm like pulling everything out, like the

714
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 4: whole inside of the boat's now carnage, because I've literally

715
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: ripped everything out, just trying to find a better option.

716
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: And it wasn't until I started doing that that I

717
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: started getting enough kind of thought process happening and thinking

718
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: to myself that you know, maybe I should probably tell

719
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: somebody that I'm going through this because I hadn't even

720
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 4: issued an alarm or anything yet.

721
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: Wow, even though you know that you can't go anywhere,

722
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: did that trigger in your head that this trip's over,

723
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: that's done with Oh?

724
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: I was yeah, yeah, definitely. It was disaster. Like it

725
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: was three and a half years of work gone in

726
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: a second. I just was so in the panic state

727
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: of reacting and not thinking. And it wasn't until I

728
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: started like tearing the tools apart that I started thinking again.

729
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: And it was then that I thought, I need to

730
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: call Jeff, who's my shore manager, and so I called

731
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: him and I issued a PAN PAN and it's three

732
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: am in Australia, so I woke the poor blow par pan.

733
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: That's an emergency right, yes.

734
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: And it's one step below a may day, so it

735
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: means I require assistance, but I'm not at immediate risk

736
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: of loss of life or vessel. Now I know that's

737
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: a mayday, but it would take them three days to

738
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: reach me. So there was no point issuing a may

739
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: day because they would be recovering your body or I

740
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: would have saved myself. That was the choices, and there's

741
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: no point putting other people at risk to recover a

742
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 4: sunk boat or try and go on a big search

743
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 4: and rescue for a vessel that's missing that's sunk. So

744
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: I knew the realities of all of that in that situation,

745
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 4: So I issued the pampan more to put them on

746
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: high alert that I was in that situation, but not

747
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 4: to actually send a rescue to me, if you imagine

748
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: it like. We actually calculated this later on what the

749
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: minimum time it would have taken the rescue coordination center

750
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: in Cape Down to reach me, and they worked out

751
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 4: that they would have to fly a helicopter to its

752
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: maximum fuel range, landed on a drive the ship for

753
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: about two and a half days south, and then fly

754
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: that helicopter to its maximum rescue range, pick me up

755
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: off the boat, fly it back to the ship, drive

756
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: the ship two and a half days back to the north,

757
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: and then fly the helicopter to land. And that was

758
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: going to be their fastest recovery, to take three days.

759
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: So I knew that if I couldn't separate the mass

760
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 4: from the boat, I was dead simple as that.

761
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: What goes on next?

762
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: I run back up and I start again at that

763
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 4: one piece of rigging at the back of the boat

764
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 4: trying to disconnect it, and after about another fifteen minutes

765
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: or so, I finally got it disconnected. And that was

766
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 4: the first moment that I really thought I had maybe

767
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: a shot at surviving tonight somehow. And what was happening

768
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: was these waves were coming through. Every time a wave

769
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: would hit, it would break another rope or tear another

770
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 4: piece of the boat off. And so I've still got

771
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: five more pieces of rigging to go to disconnect the rigging,

772
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 4: to disconnect the mast, but that was the first piece

773
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: I was able to separate, and I didn't know if

774
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: my theory was going to work until then, and so

775
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: that gave me the hope that I needed to push

776
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: through the rest. And at the same time, this is Antarctica,

777
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: so I'm going into hypothermia. I'm soaked through in freezing temperatures.

778
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: And I managed to crawl to the bow of the

779
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 4: boat and I disconnected the inner four stay rigging wire.

780
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: And then the next piece I needed to disconnect was

781
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: the four stay wire and this is the one at

782
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: the very very front of the boat that the normally

783
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: the geb bought. The front sails fly off, and as

784
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: I looked at it, I was like kind of huddled

785
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: against the safety rails on the left hand side of

786
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: the boat. All the safety rails on the right hand

787
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: side had been ripped off when the mask came down,

788
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 4: so there was no rails left there. But the waves

789
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: were coming from that direction, so they would kind of

790
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: hit you and then drag you down the left hand

791
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 4: side of the boat. And then I'd scramble back up

792
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: to my position and try and assess this piece of

793
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: rigging I needed to disconnect. And as I looked at it,

794
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 4: I realized that the piece I needed to knock out

795
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: was trapped under what we call a furling drum, which

796
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 4: is like just a sort of drum piece of equipment

797
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the mass. And the way it

798
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 4: was trapped meant that I had possibly two options that

799
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 4: I could come up with. And Option one was to

800
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 4: like wedge my left arm like under the drum, put

801
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: my screwdriver in the fitting, and wrap my other arm

802
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: like all the way around it, and like hug the

803
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 4: fitting and like knock it out that way. But when

804
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: I disconnected the inner force day it had been pushed

805
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 4: around by the force of those ways so violently that

806
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 4: it was like this huge whipping snake on the deck

807
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 4: of the boat doing absolute carnage like tearing bits of

808
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: the boat up, and just it would have crushed my arm,

809
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: broken ribs, or otherwise stopped me from being able to

810
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: save the boat and done severe injury. And only other

811
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: thing I could think of in that moment in time,

812
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: with the tools in the equipment available to me, was

813
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: to physically climb outside the safety rails on the bow

814
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: of the boat and sit down on the bowsprit, which

815
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: is that sort of black stick that you can often

816
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 4: see on the front of racing yachts. And out there,

817
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: I am completely exposed to these waves coming through. So

818
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: these waves are throwing a ten ton boat fifty meters sideways.

819
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: Imagine how a little person can hold on out there

820
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: with nothing to hold on to. And so I looked

821
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: at that, and I thought to myself, I've got a

822
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty shot. If I climb out there, I've

823
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: got a fifty to fifty shot. But if I don't

824
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: go out there, I've got zero shot. I've got no options.

825
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 4: I'm going down with the.

826
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: Ship and got one You've got one option, and that's

827
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: you need to get out there.

828
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's also that idea of putting yourself into

829
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: a greater position of risk to save yourself. Like it

830
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 4: was this wild, like emotional kind of roller coaster, because

831
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 4: it was the logical thought of like, yep, that's the

832
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: decision I've made, that's the next step, that's the logical

833
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: choice to do that, and I will save myself by

834
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: doing that, or at least have the best chance of

835
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: doing that. And I went inside and I called Jeff,

836
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: my shore manager back up, gave him a bit of

837
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: an update. And he is such a bubbly, kind of

838
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 4: exuberant person, and so I said to him, I've disconnected

839
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 4: the backstay and the inner force day and he's like, well, Duneley,

840
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: so we're all behind you, like, just keep at it.

841
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: And then I said I had to go out on

842
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: that bowsprit and he really understood, and he was like, oh, okay,

843
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: I understand. And then I had to say if my PLB,

844
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 4: my personal location beacon on my life jackets activated, it's

845
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 4: because I've been washed off the boat and I'm now

846
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 4: in the ocean, don't come and rescue me. And it

847
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 4: was really going to be the only way I could

848
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: communicate to my family that I wasn't coming home. Like

849
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: part of our protocols we had set up was not

850
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: to have any communication with family in an emergency situation

851
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: because it's too emotional, Like you're not going to be

852
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: able to react to the same way when you're talking

853
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: to family then if you're having a logical conversation with

854
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 4: your manager or you know whatever. But yeah, I hung

855
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: up that call and I crawled out into that storm,

856
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: and I got like two meters from the bow, and

857
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: I locked up, like when we talk about fear, like

858
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: I was literally frozen in fear, like I We had

859
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: had conversations before I left the trip with family and

860
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 4: talking about, you know, maybe I wouldn't survive, and that

861
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 4: that was okay because I was living my life. I'm

862
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: achieving amazing things, I'm having an adventure. That's okay. I

863
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: could die in that car accident tomorrow, but it's a

864
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: very very different thing talking about it and having this

865
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 4: mystery theory of one day to then being like, well,

866
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 4: in the next five minutes, I might not be alive anymore.

867
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: And I had been exposed in the freezing conditions for

868
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 4: over three hours by now, so I was quite hypothermic

869
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: and I would need to look at my hand to

870
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: know it had closed over the tools that I was

871
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: trying to hold, like I couldn't. I had no feeling

872
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: in any of that. I'd been shivering uncontrollably, like it

873
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: was really that end stage, and I knew if I

874
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 4: didn't move soon, I wasn't going to get the opportunity

875
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: to move because I was going into brain fog. I

876
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: was getting dead zones in my time, like I just

877
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: would zone out and then come back and be like, oh,

878
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: hang on, I'm in the middle of this, like it

879
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: wasn't a good situation. I still kind of try and

880
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: explain how I changed my mind, like how I talked

881
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 4: to myself out of that, But ultimately it was shouting

882
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: at myself. It was calling myself names, it was checking

883
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: that I've done everything possible, that this was the only choice.

884
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: And then ultimately it was that idea of like just

885
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 4: do it because there is no other choice, Like you've

886
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 4: just got to do it.

887
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 5: This was the.

888
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: Final shot, you know. And I climbed over that rail

889
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: and I sat down and like you can't see anything.

890
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: It's midnight by now, like it's pitch black, raging storm

891
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 4: around me. That new storm started to fill in. So

892
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: the waves are getting worse. The conditions are worse, and

893
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 4: there's so much much sea spray that you can't see

894
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: far with the head torch, like it's just picking up

895
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: the spray. And so I sat down and in my

896
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 4: left hand I had my screwdriver and I could hold

897
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: the broken bit of rail that was still there. And

898
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: in my right hand I held my hammer, but it

899
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: was too fat to hold the rail as well. And

900
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: I initially thought that I could use my ankles to

901
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: hold on, like tie them underneath, but I was too short,

902
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: and so it was just the strength of my legs

903
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: that I could grip with. And like, you can't see

904
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 4: the waves, but you can hear them, and so you

905
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: can hear the wave break and it'll be like an

906
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: eight meter wave, so you'll fill the boat kind of

907
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: lift as it goes up, and then it's going up

908
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: and up and up, and then you hear this crash

909
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: of a wave break and then it impacts the boat

910
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 4: and it'll throw you to the trough. So you got

911
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: like this g foce effect of this mac truck impact

912
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 4: where the whole boat's tossed and then you're trying to

913
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 4: hold on to a stick in the front of the

914
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: boat at the moment, and I hook an elbow and

915
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: I'm like kind of tossed to the side, but I

916
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 4: stay on and then the wave hits and you're engulfed

917
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 4: in whitewater, fully submerged. And one square meter of whitewater

918
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: is one ton of pressure getting applied. So if you

919
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: think of a three meter wall of white water impacting

920
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: the boat and the violence behind that, and then I

921
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: would have to let go put the screwdriver in the fitting,

922
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: like let go of the boat completely and get the hammer,

923
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 4: and I'd get two or three strikes in before I

924
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 4: could feel the boat going up the next wave and

925
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: we'd get the next impact. But yeah, ultimately I was

926
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: able to disconnect that piece of rigging and the remaining

927
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: pieces of rigging, and it took me like four hours

928
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: in total, and I was quite hypothermic, quite emotional, and

929
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: quite grateful to be able to call my shore manager

930
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: up and tell him that I survived like I was

931
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: in a broken boat a thousand miles from land, but

932
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 4: I was living like I was still breathing at that point,

933
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: And you know, that was the best outcome I could

934
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: asks for.

935
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: What did you feel like what was that relief, like,

936
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: you know, knowing that you one that you were alive,

937
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: to that actually you're not only alive, you've now got

938
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: a chance of surviving this or seeing this through until

939
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: you're rescued.

940
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It's a hard one because I got

941
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 4: back into the boat and I tried to call Mum

942
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: and I couldn't get her. And the next person I

943
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 4: got was my pr person, Tracy, and she answered and

944
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: I couldn't speak, and I was this hysterical, sobbing.

945
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: Mess and she has an emotional dump.

946
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: The massive like blood and yeah, and it was like

947
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: the idea that I'm so grateful that I'm alive, but

948
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: it was also the sort of reality that I just

949
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: lost everything, Like I worked for this for four years

950
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 4: by this point, and it was gone in the blink

951
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 4: of an eye. I mean, I'd survived, but like the record,

952
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 4: everything it stood for gone, And as a first project,

953
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: as a girl doing a first project in the sailing world,

954
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 4: in this kind of world, like you don't get second chances,

955
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 4: like this was the shot, this was the stab, and

956
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: I'd lost it all and I was still broken and

957
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how. I guess I didn't understand how

958
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 4: much of an effect that trauma had on me until

959
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: much much later when I restarted the record, and it

960
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 4: was then that I really learned the realities of like

961
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: hang on, this was a traumatic experience. This was, you know,

962
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: something that I do need time to process. But suddenly

963
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of the ocean again, going through

964
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: the Southern Ocean, and I don't have time for it.

965
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: So let's look back to that quinto you end up

966
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: getting rescued.

967
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: So I ended up doing a fuel transfer with a

968
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 4: container ship, and I built a drew rig with the boom,

969
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 4: so I built a new mast. I'd been able to

970
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: salvage a small section of rigging and motor sail to

971
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 4: Cape Town. So it took me ten days to get

972
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 4: to land from the time of the emergency, and then

973
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: I rebuilt the boat in Cape Town and two months later,

974
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 4: in the dead of winter, I set off and went

975
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: back to the Southern Ocean.

976
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: And I also used this trauma as us because you

977
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: can lose as few as life experience. Right, I've wrought

978
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: to yourself, right, what could possibly go wrong apart from

979
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: me not coming back at all, I've been through everything.

980
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to use this experience. I'm going to really,

981
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: you know, bring take the positives from this trauma.

982
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: And honestly, though that didn't happen for years. No, at

983
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: that point, I was still in survival mode. I was

984
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 4: so focused on the fact I've got to do this record.

985
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: I've got to you know, I need to reach that

986
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: goal or I'm going to lose everything. And so I

987
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: sailed back. I really struggled mentally with that bit. I

988
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 4: just like every crack of a wave, I wo'd jump

989
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 4: a little bit more. I was a lot more tense before.

990
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 4: I would be so cool and calm in these big storms,

991
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 4: sailing through stuff that most sailors would have nightmares over,

992
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: and I was like totally happy with it, and like

993
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: now I had this different relationship with the sea. And

994
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 4: I sailed the last six weeks back to Australia and

995
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 4: I eventually set the women's record with one stop. But

996
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: I felt like I had failed, Like yeah, I mean,

997
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: I say it, and I feel so selfish naying it

998
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 4: this way, But like the world celebrated it as a

999
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 4: success and I looked at it as a failure. I

1000
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: looked at it as something that I went out to

1001
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 4: go and become the fastest person, not the first woman,

1002
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: the fastest person, and I'd failed in that goal. And

1003
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: it wasn't until COVID actually gave me the break because

1004
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: I came back to those three hundred thousand dollars in

1005
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: debt and the bills and everything accumulated and I just

1006
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: had to work immediately. I was on the speaking to us,

1007
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: I was trying to fundraise, I was doing anything I

1008
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 4: could to not be forced to sell the boat. And

1009
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: then in COVID, I wrote the book Facing Fear, and

1010
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: it gave me that little bit of breathing space, and

1011
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: it was the first time I'd reflected on that trip

1012
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: and on the dismasting.

1013
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: And it's almost like a therapeutic way, so therapeutic.

1014
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the same when I write my books. Is

1015
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: so therapeutic.

1016
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: Even though you're revisiting these difficult situations, you know, you're

1017
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: almost processing it and breaking it down. Wish you're writing right,

1018
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: and it's exactly start to make sense and you start

1019
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: to gain the positives from.

1020
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: It exactly, And I realized that, like the only reason

1021
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 4: I survived was because I had the right preparation. They're

1022
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: planning that mindset, the attitude, that's what allowed me to

1023
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: live through that scenario and it's made me a better sailor.

1024
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: Like it's made me a stronger sailor because now I

1025
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 4: know I can trust that planning and preparation. And so

1026
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: that's what really they say.

1027
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 2: Smooth scene never made a skilled say exactly.

1028
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: And ultimately that's what gave me the confidence to do

1029
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 4: it again this time.

1030
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: The story was more of a successful one. Just taught

1031
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: me through the moment that you got back on the

1032
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: boat and you reattacked the situation, which you've done, and

1033
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: how did you use the experience that you've been through

1034
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 2: previously to make sure that this didn't happen on your reattack?

1035
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 3: Shall we say?

1036
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess like the like I said, the

1037
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 4: experience previously gave me a lot of trust in my

1038
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 4: decision making, in the planning process, and it allowed me

1039
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: to know that I might not dismasted on this trip,

1040
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: but I'm probably going to face something. And ultimately, like

1041
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: we had two weeks of snowstorms and blizzards and the

1042
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: boat was flipped upside down three times in fifteen meter

1043
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 4: seas like it wasn't an easy challenge whatsoever, And overall

1044
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: the sea state was more dangerous on this second record

1045
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 4: than the first attempt, but I different challenges, right, Yeah,

1046
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: different challenges, And I also knew that, like I was,

1047
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: I would be able to rise to meet those challenges.

1048
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: And I had visualized so hard before I left on

1049
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 4: the first trip that it was going to be this

1050
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: incredibly difficult thing, and it was obviously incredibly difficult, but

1051
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 4: on the day by day living and existing on the

1052
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: boat in the middle of the ocean, like, there were

1053
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 4: so many beautiful moments as well, and so it allowed

1054
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: me on the second trip to have a second go

1055
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 4: at those moments and make sure I took it in

1056
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: and experienced it in it in its entirety. And you know,

1057
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 4: ultimately I was able to shave ten days off the record,

1058
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 4: which is pretty amazing, But that became second to experiencing

1059
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: it and knowing for myself that I was capable and

1060
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 4: that I could do it, and that I could rise

1061
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 4: to that challenge and every other challenge to come. And

1062
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 4: now I you know, I tell people, I'm like, the

1063
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: only thing we limit ourselves with as our mindset, like,

1064
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: it's our attitude and what we say to ourselves is

1065
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 4: self limiting behavior. It's that idea of like, oh, I'd

1066
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 4: do that one day, or I'd love to do that,

1067
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: but I couldn't. Oh I could never do that. Like

1068
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: I was that person once. I used to say that

1069
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: all the time. I'd love to have this amazing adventure,

1070
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 4: but I couldn't sell a boat solo no way, you know.

1071
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 4: And here we are, like, well, I've been sailing twelve

1072
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 4: years now and I've got eight world records, Like it's just.

1073
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, quickly help me through those world records, because

1074
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, this journey has been absolutely phenomenal, and you

1075
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: know the mind set that you have and that you've

1076
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 2: adapted and that you've gained over the years, especially through

1077
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: that first attempt around the Antarctic, you have accumulated some

1078
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Speaker 2: world records.

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Speaker 3: Come on, share them with us.

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Speaker 4: So I officially set the first Woman with one stop

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Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen. Twenty eighteen was solo, NonStop and unassisted

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Speaker 4: around Australia where I got the fastest person first monohull, sorry,

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Speaker 4: first woman, and then I did Antarctica the second time,

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Speaker 4: so I broke my original record of the first one

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Speaker 4: with one stop and did that first one with no

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Speaker 4: stops and also broke fed or Konyakov's record by ten days.

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Speaker 4: And then just literally like two months ago, I set

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Speaker 4: a couple of records in New Zealand, so Sydney to

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Speaker 4: Auckland speed Record where I was the fastest person, first woman,

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Speaker 4: and then I set an original record which hadn't been

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Speaker 4: done before, and that was the first circumnavigation of New

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Speaker 4: Zealand solo, NonStop and unassisted. And you know, like it

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Speaker 4: seems a little bit like I'm just collecting these battle

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Speaker 4: scars in these records, and it's this fun thing to do,

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Speaker 4: and it is an incredible journey, and the adventure is

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Speaker 4: a big part of why I do it, but it's

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Speaker 4: become so much more than that. For me. I've got

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Speaker 4: this campaign climate action now, and the records are now

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Speaker 4: this platform that I can use for advocacy and change

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Speaker 4: and education and I can share my journey and I

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Speaker 4: do these post to note campaigns, so you can go

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Speaker 4: to the website, go to get involved, and fill in

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Speaker 4: a posted note on an environmental action that you're already doing.

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Speaker 4: And if you see the boat, she's wrapped in thousands

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Speaker 4: and thousands of post it notes, and each one's collected

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Speaker 4: from someone in the public and so it's their message,

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Speaker 4: their environmental action. And the idea is that, you know,

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Speaker 4: when I started seeing the plastic pollution in the ocean

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Speaker 4: and the debris, and I've did microplastic sampling around Antarctica

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Speaker 4: on the second record and we found plastic in every

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Speaker 4: sample the whole way around Antarctica. By the way, it's

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Speaker 4: that idea of showing people that every action matters, and

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Speaker 4: even the small stuff that we can do on a

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Speaker 4: day by day basis as an individual, it matters, and

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Speaker 4: we as a as an individual have that power to

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Speaker 4: create change. It just starts with taking one action. And

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Speaker 4: so yeah, I'm building on that now and I've set

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Speaker 4: myself another enormous goal which is probably more challenging or

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Speaker 4: on par with like Antarctica as far as scale. It's

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Speaker 4: to sail solar NonStop and unassisted around the Arctic Circle.

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Speaker 4: It's something that's only possible because of climate change, and

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Speaker 4: it's not ever been done by a single human before ever.

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Speaker 4: We've got twelve people have landed on the Moon. I mean,

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Speaker 4: come on, someone's got to.

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Speaker 3: Anyone can do it.

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Speaker 2: You can do it, Lisa with your mindset, but you know,

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Speaker 2: just to finish up on this great to have all

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Speaker 2: these records, but how important is it to shatter your

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Speaker 2: personal records? As in, you know your limitations, your boundaries,

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Speaker 2: knowing what you're capable of. You know that in a

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Speaker 2: sort of satisfaction of knowing that you can. You know

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Speaker 2: you're capable of these things, and you're always learning, you're

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Speaker 2: always growing, and you're always becoming a better version of

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Speaker 2: who you are. How satisfying is that because you're doing

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Speaker 2: that every day, scrap the world records. You're doing that

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Speaker 2: every day, you know, and you're seeking that more and more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And you know it's one of those things

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Speaker 4: like if you set yourself a goal, whatever that goal is,

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Speaker 4: whether that's a life goal, work goal, whatever, you might

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Speaker 4: not be able to achieve it today. But if you

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Speaker 4: start taking daily steps, little actions, and start working towards it,

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Speaker 4: you will grow into the person that's capable of doing that.

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Speaker 4: And I think the biggest gift I've given myself is

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Speaker 4: removing that limitation, that idea that I can't And I

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Speaker 4: know if I want to do anything in my life

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Speaker 4: in my career, like I can absolutely do it. It

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Speaker 4: won't matter if I'm eighty and a little nano. If

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Speaker 4: I want to go and set the oldest person to

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Speaker 4: sell around the world record. I'll do it. Like you know,

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Speaker 4: it's an attitude that you can live by, and I

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Speaker 4: think life is an attitude. And we can't control what

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Speaker 4: happens to us. We can't control what other people do

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Speaker 4: to us, but we can control how we react to it,

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Speaker 4: and we can control what we do with that information

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Speaker 4: moving forward. And if you can do it to support

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Speaker 4: yourself and to allow yourself the room to grow, then

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Speaker 4: you know, the world's your owayster. You've got so much

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Speaker 4: potential and you've just got to start tapping into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, That's what I say to people. You just

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Speaker 2: got to commit. Forget about the destination, forget about that.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's the commitment after commitment after commitment, And

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Speaker 2: with each commitment there'd be a new lesson. There'd be

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Speaker 2: room for growth, and there'd be room to realize what

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Speaker 2: you're capable of and to become a better version of

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Speaker 2: who you are. And Lisa, you are the epitome of that.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I love speaking to you. That's why

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Speaker 2: I really took to you on Million Dollar Island because

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Speaker 2: I could see that within yourself. Lisa, best of luck,

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Speaker 2: in the future. It's been phenomenal talking to you. It's

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Speaker 2: great to see you again.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, and next time you want to go for

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Speaker 4: a sale, hit me up.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Blair is the author of Facing Fear. To find

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Speaker 2: out more about her book and climate action now, head

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Speaker 2: to Lisa blairsalesthworld dot com. I'll also link the details

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Speaker 2: in the show notes. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 2: me on Headgame. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure

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Speaker 2: stories and leave me a review wherever you're listening.

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Speaker 3: I'm Att Middleton. Catch you again next time.