1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gaddigal Land Always was, always 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: Hey chicks, I'm sale and I'm Out. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: This is two broke chicks to show that shares life 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life. 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: And today we are joined by kate Lelamico. Welcome, Hello, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: all the way from New York just for this. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's actually what I feel. We know it. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: We are so excited because we've been following you for 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: a long time. For any of the chicks who aren't 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: across your content. You do a lot of content around 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: your moved to New York, but you're also a marketing expert. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: You do a lot of fashion content as well. So yeah, 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: we're so grateful. Yeah, girl after our own heart. 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, so we're so happy that we were able 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: to line it up with your Sydney trip. 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 4: No, I'm so happy to be here. I'm excited to talk. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: Yes, but before we get into it, we love to 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: start with our life lesson of the week, So would 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: you like to kick us off? 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 5: Yes, I feel like when you said that and you said, oh, 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 5: could just be. 23 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: Silly, I feel like I'm like so deep, like. 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Straight up amazing. Yeah, I hit it. 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 5: I had coffee with a friend so iph you could 26 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 5: this week, and we were talking about how in person 27 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 5: connections are super important, and my life lesson was to 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 5: be super traditional in the way that you conduct yourself 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 5: in business, like have face to face meetings rather than 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 5: always relying on Google Meet or Zoom or FaceTime, because 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 5: when people can like sounds weird, like see you and 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 5: like almost like just like touch you, like, they build 33 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 5: this emotional connection with you, and then it actually helped 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 5: you with your business moving forward because they have more 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 5: of an emotional tie, so I can like. 36 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: Screw you over. 37 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 5: And we were talking about how that's probably why with 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 5: like dating apps, people don't care about like ghosting you, 39 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 5: canceling on you, not showing up. It's because they don't 40 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: have that like emotional tie wars. If they had met 41 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: you in person once, they probably have a little bit 42 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 5: more of emotional connection. So just keeping that in mind. 43 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: I remember when we were doing an episode years ago 44 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: and it was like how to get a job or 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: how to get your dream job or something like that, 46 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: and it was like eighty percent or even ptently higher 47 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: of people get jobs because of someone they know. And 48 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: it's like from network, But we went to one recently 49 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: and it was like meeting a team at a company 50 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: that could really really. 51 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Help support us on the podcast as well. 52 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: And then we went and had the best time with them, 53 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: and then three days later they were like, yeah, cool, 54 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: Like what can we do? 55 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: How can we help? 56 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: Like people are more willing to put their skin in 57 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: the game. 58 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: Agree, yeah, No, I love that. 59 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: It also gives you the space to have conversations outside 60 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: of work, which I think helps you connect a little 61 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: bit more to Whereas when you're on a zoom call, 62 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: you'll be. 63 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Like, how's this weather? But if you sit down for coffee, 64 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: you can. 65 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: Actually bread at the Christmas Yeah, we always asked that 66 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: first question on zoom call. No, but yeah, you can 67 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: have some of those yeah, but yeah, you can have 68 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: some more of those deeper conbos, which I think helps Yeah. 69 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you fuck Brad at the Christmas part? 70 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 5: And there's like a lot more room for humor, which 71 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 5: I think is like the easiest level in order to 72 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 5: connect someone because you can start with humor. 73 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Then there's no one more bonded than two co workers 74 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: hanging out after work with the common enemy. 75 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: There is nothing stronger than that bond. That's how our 76 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: friendship started. 77 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, two people that work together that go out for 78 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: a coffee or an afterwork drink and they have a 79 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: common enemy and all they need is like one extra 80 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: grain of information or that one extra thing to go higher. Yeah, 81 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: it's my favorite favorite activity. 82 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: Okay, what's your life lesson? 83 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: My life lesson of the week is, at the time 84 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: of recording, road Beauty just launch, right, very exciting, congratulations 85 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: my good friend Hailey Beber. However, my life lesson of 86 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: the week is you don't actually need to buy it 87 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: when everyone else is, because yesterday it launched in two 88 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: stores only in Sydney and in Melbourne on Burke Street 89 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: and George Street. Right. And then this morning I was 90 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: going to go I get some to do a giveaway 91 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: for six hundred K, which I then walked in and 92 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: the line was out the door, and I was seeing these. 93 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: Girls and they had buckets and baskets and. 94 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: All that stuff, which like fair enough, you spend your 95 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: money however you want. But I just also think, right 96 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: now is the cool aid of purchasing road Right. It's 97 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: like everyone's like, get it, and I'm going to get 98 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: this blush and this product and this product that I'm like, absolutely, 99 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: if you want to buy it, go get it. 100 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: Go for your life. But also it's not going anywhere. 101 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: That's the point. It's here now, yes, and the foama of. 102 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: It, and you have to think about it like that, 103 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: because we get briefs from brands, right and we never 104 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: fucking do them, but we get briefs come in talking 105 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: to me and that like, oh my god, I have 106 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: to get it. It's just launched, is marketing, and so 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: it's like, yes, it's very exciting, but also you don't 108 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: have to get it immediately. 109 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: It's not going anywhere. That's the whole point. 110 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: And maybe like five years ago this would have launched 111 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: and I would have spent easily, like three hundred dollars 112 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: on it. 113 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, easily? 114 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: Or is this something I was like, I just sit 115 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: and wait a little bit, see if I feel like 116 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: in two weeks yeah, and see like. 117 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: What Also some of the Aussie consumers say. 118 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: About it as well, like see some of their okay, 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: a milky tone of that I'm musing right now. So 120 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: maybe I'll try the road when when that runs out. Yeah, yes, 121 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: and you won't have to line up for three hours 122 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: to get boring of like a life lesson because it's 123 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: more fun to be like go yeah, yeah, but I'm like. 124 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: No, I think it's solid advice, big sister advice. Thank you, Sally. 125 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: Okay, my life lesson of the week is short and sweet, 126 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: but it's to. 127 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: Celebrate the winds, which we touched on. 128 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: We did. 129 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: Maybe we celebrated a little too hard. Okay, when this 130 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: episode comes. 131 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: Out, it would have been a while ago, but yeah, 132 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: we hit six hundred k followers this week and we're like. 133 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: Let's have one cocktail, have a cock how to sell way. 134 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: It was on a Tuesday, and it just didn't It's 135 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: always it's always those on our story being like all right, everyone, 136 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: seven thirty, we have to be at home. 137 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: And then we got a couple of messages in the 138 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: lit so what happened at seven thirty? 139 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: And I was like, we weren't at home home, Okay, 140 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: like I think those are the best nights. 141 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: So like low expectation. Yeah, reward exactly. 142 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: Was rewarding, but it wasn't rewarding the next day. 143 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the next day, we borrowed our happiness from the 144 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: next day. 145 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: Say, I've never heard that. Yeah, we borrowed all the 146 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: happiness from the next day. 147 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: I think it's fine, That's what I said. 148 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: I was like, whatever. 149 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: I was like, if this is the worst thing we 150 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: do this week, then it's been a pretty good week. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, 151 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: a couple of seltzer was on a Tuesday, incredible coupled 152 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: us drink responsibly, jteen in new room exactly. 153 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the episode. Yeah, okay, okay. 154 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: Then, so you moved to New York a couple of 155 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: years ago. Now, but what led to that life changing move? 156 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 5: Well, circling back on the one drink led into multiple. 157 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: Charles and I were on. 158 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: James Street in Brisbane and we just gone to a 159 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: TikTok event and we were both working at the same agency, 160 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 5: and I was like, a bit over it. Should we 161 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 5: just move overseas? 162 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 4: I actually wish it was. 163 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 5: More serious than this. It was so casual. I had 164 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: an emeritus hour, she had a margarita. She said, yep, 165 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 5: do you want to move to London or New York? 166 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 5: I said, I'm a citizen in the US, so that 167 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: would be easier. Then she said okay, and that was it. 168 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 5: And then the following weeks I think we then planned 169 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: when we were quitting our jobs, and then we moved 170 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: maybe like four months ish later. 171 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: Well, so you just didn't even deep it, I. 172 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: Know, right, Yeah, I feel like we're pretty like that 173 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: in a lot of ways, very rigid in a lot 174 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: of ways. 175 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: Were very easy going in a lot of ways. 176 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you committed once you'd made the decision. 177 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not cancelors. 178 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were like any minor in venience. 179 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: We don't worry about it. Let's suck it off. 180 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, like boat nack. 181 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, straight at home. Was it harder than you expected 182 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: or easier? 183 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 5: I think it was as anticipated. So my brother lives 184 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 5: there for a bit of context. And then also I'm 185 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: a US citizen, so I've spent a lot of time 186 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: in the US, So I don't think that I anticipated 187 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 5: that it was going to be hard. I just knew 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 5: it was going to be expensive. So then we would 189 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 5: over that four months, we already had saved a bit, 190 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 5: not enough, I'll get into that, and then we're just hustling, basically, 191 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 5: like working multiple jobs and whatnot to save. But I 192 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: wouldn't say when I got there that it was super hard. 193 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: But I do think if I had moved alone, it 194 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: would have been a very different experience, Like. 195 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: Would you recommend moving with a friend because. 196 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: Yes, if they have the same mindset as you and 197 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: the same ambition or similar ambition more so, yeah, because 198 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: you kind of need to be there for similar reasons 199 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: or else your lifestyles can go into different directions. 200 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: So I felt Tiles and I have a good. 201 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 5: Mix of liking to party and have fun but also 202 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: being very career driven, so it was a nice balance. 203 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: But if you went with someone who was just going 204 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: there to live there for a year and have the 205 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 5: best time of their life, you'd probably been different friendship 206 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 5: groups and directions. 207 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 208 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you already like you were already best friends. 209 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: Yeah we met at work. 210 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like you were you as close when 211 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: you moved versus now? 212 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: No? Oh wow, really definitely not. 213 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, so we like work wives essentially at 214 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: the time. 215 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've only known each other for four years. Wow. 216 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 217 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: Actually surprised that so many people. 218 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: H my gosh, that's weird. 219 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 3: Although how is the you who moved different versus you 220 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: now after being there for a little while. 221 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: I would probably say when I moved, I like to 222 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 5: say that I'm quite introveted, which surprises a lot of people. 223 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 5: Even though I share a lot of my life, I 224 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 5: think a lot of my life is also private, whether 225 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 5: that's like dating or like work. I think a lot 226 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: of that stuff private. And I showed little bits here 227 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: and there. But when I moved, I was much more introveted, 228 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 5: didn't put myself out there as much. But New York 229 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 5: kind of forces you to become an extrovert because if 230 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 5: you don't, then you kind of don't make friends and 231 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 5: fall behind. So yeah, I would say I'm a lot 232 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 5: more confident, probably in myself, my day to day and 233 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 5: also my style. 234 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. 235 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 5: When I first moved compared to now, I probably thought 236 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 5: I had good style at the time three years ago, 237 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 5: but now when I look back at those photos and went, 238 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: oh my. 239 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: God, yeah, we've all been there. 240 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you moved, was there like when you first 241 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 3: had the thing of being like should we move? 242 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 2: Like should we just go? 243 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: Was there like a lead up to that of like 244 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: you were pondering it? Or was it very no at 245 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: the moment, not at all. 246 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: Wow, there was no conversation, really, it was Yeah. 247 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: Do you think that if there was, then maybe you 248 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't have made the move? Like, do you think that's 249 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: what made it a success because you just committed and 250 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: you didn't even give any of those chances for you 251 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: to overthink it. 252 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 5: Kind of yes, But Tarles and I are very big 253 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 5: on stop complaining and change. So it's either like you 254 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 5: don't complain about something unless you're going to change it, 255 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: and if you keep complaining, just like, don't complain. So 256 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 5: I think it's kind of similar mindset with moving. If 257 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 5: we were teetering, oh should we move to not move, 258 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: we both would have been saying to each other, Okay, 259 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: shut up, like either move or stop talking about it, like, 260 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 5: don't just kind of idle in the middle. 261 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: I like that. 262 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: It's like the saying it's like the best decision is 263 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: the one that you make yes, rather than like sitting 264 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: back and forth being like oh no. 265 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 5: I always say that, especially in work, like stop thinking 266 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 5: about what you could be doing and just do it, yeah, 267 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 5: because then you'll be able to work out if it 268 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 5: works on it. 269 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: And the worst case scenario was never that bad. No, 270 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: whatever ends up happening. I once heard this stat and 271 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: it was like eighty five percent of the things that 272 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: you stress about never happen. 273 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: And I think I became a god at that point, 274 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: I was like, elevator nothing, no one can touch me. 275 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like I need that like written in 276 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: lipstick on my mirror or I we need to get 277 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: like mirror stickers or something. Yeah, little decals some trademark. 278 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 3: So you kind of touched on this previously. But living 279 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: in New York is notoriously expensive, But is there an 280 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: inherent money habit that you had to unlearn. 281 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: After you moved. 282 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 5: I would say, as an Australian living in the US, 283 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 5: it was converting everything. So when we first moved, we 284 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 5: would sit there and say, oh, this coffee was actually 285 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: twelve dollars Australian, or this coffee or this dinner was 286 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 5: actually eighty dollars Australian. 287 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: That will literally wear and tear your brain. 288 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so much so to the point that you have 289 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 5: like more of a scarcity mindset and you become a 290 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: little bit more frugal. So we just started just taking 291 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 5: the dollars as they were. 292 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: It's if your coffee is six dollars, it's six dollars. 293 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 5: You're not sitting there saying, oh, this is actually nine 294 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 5: dollars eighty in Australian because it doesn't really get you Anyways. 295 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: This is a bit of a fucking bummer. 296 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: Like when you're moving, I think it's a different thing 297 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: to when you're traveling, right, completely, it's. 298 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: A completely different thing. 299 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, but still if you're sitting there over every single 300 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 3: dollar and I'm really talking I've never moved overseas. I'm 301 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: really talking in the context of traveling though, Like if 302 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: you go to every single meal and every single thing 303 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: you do and everything, and you're going. 304 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: Well, the Australian doll sucks, so it's like. 305 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: You the whole time, we're just going to be like, oh, 306 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: that's so much more expensive. 307 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then tax and tip, so it's like twenty 308 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: percent tip. 309 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: Is it nice coming back to Australia and you don't 310 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: have to tip? 311 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: Yes? But interestingly, I haven't been to Sydney in five 312 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: years and every restaurant has asked me to tip myda. 313 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: This is a thing. 314 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 5: I worked at a cafe when I first moved to 315 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: New York. Titles and I both did and my wage 316 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 5: was great, but then past tips, I was I'm early 317 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 5: like thirty eight dollars an hour. I'm going to go 318 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 5: because I think that was because I was working at 319 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 5: Australian cafes, so maybe they had different I don't really know. 320 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 5: And obviously different states as well, so state to state's 321 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 5: very different. I'm sure the Midwest and the South have 322 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 5: different laws to New York and LA. 323 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: So I don't really know how. 324 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: True true, true, No, that's so fair. That's so fair. 325 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: And you've mentioned Talia are your bestie. Yeah, so you 326 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: guys moved to New York together and have lived together, 327 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 3: but you also share your finances. 328 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: Can you talk us through how does that work? What's 329 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: the setup? 330 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: The easiest way. 331 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 5: To explain it is we've shared finances for three years 332 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 5: and it operates like a business. So say we have 333 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: a business account that sits at the top all of 334 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: the income that we make from our marketing job. So 335 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 5: I would say eighty percent of our income comes from 336 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 5: our actual work. So Tyler works at Lenabron's and then 337 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 5: I am a marketing consultant. And then outside of that, 338 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 5: obviously you have bits here and there for like content 339 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: creation and tiktoks and instagrams whatnot. All of that gets 340 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 5: like pulled into one account and then think of it 341 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: like dividends. So Toles will basically pay like I've never. 342 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: Paid my own rent. 343 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 5: She will pay our rent together, our bills, gym, anything 344 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 5: that's like retainer always on so like the lights are on, 345 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: you know. And then anything outside of that she'll put 346 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: to investments. So she does all of our investing for us. 347 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 348 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, she is a gun like so grateful. 349 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: And then from there I get a dividend of spending money. 350 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: So with spending money, people always get confused when we say, oh, 351 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 5: Caitlin like paid for this and bought Tarlie this, but 352 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 5: it's the same account. But realistically it all goes in 353 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 5: and then the dividends of spending money you can kind 354 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 5: of spend on whatever you wants. So if I want 355 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 5: to buy heaps of clothes with my spending money, even 356 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 5: though at the top of the pyramid it maybe it 357 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: was more hers or more mine, who knows, I can 358 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: still spend, you know, five hundred dollars on whatever. If 359 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: I want to go out for dinner with one of 360 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 5: my other friends that's not coming out of technically like 361 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 5: Tarlie's dividend. 362 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: Does that make it Yeah? 363 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 5: I think when we explain it people understand it, but 364 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 5: people still think it's pretty strange. 365 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: It's kind of like you're paying yourself a wage as 366 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: well based off of that money that's left over, or 367 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: it's like your pocket money, your extra fun money that 368 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: you can use. Yes, but I love the videos of 369 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: when you run through your online shopping before. 370 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: But I feel like she never judges, which is amazing. 371 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: Too, which is probably why because you have this foundation 372 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: of like trust together, right, do you. 373 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Ever have to ask permission anything? 374 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: But if we're putting things on the joint account, so 375 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 5: then we have like personal credit cards and personal debit cards, 376 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 5: and we have a joint account that has two cards 377 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 5: credit card and debitcard linked. 378 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, generally speaking that it's like if. 379 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: We, for example, we hosted a coffee meetup with our 380 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 5: followers in Melbourne and Sydney and that we paid for 381 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: all their coffee, so that would go on the joint card. 382 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird basically. 383 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to say, you would probably have 384 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 5: a very similar operation because you do run a business 385 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 5: and you are best friends, so you have that income. 386 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: But that's some socials or sponsors or whatever it is. 387 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: You know, whether somebody is thinking of sharing finances with 388 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: a friend or a partner or maybe a family member. 389 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: What would be your number one tip? Or piece of 390 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: advice after sharing finances with a friend. 391 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 5: I definitely think money mindset, which I know that whole 392 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 5: term is very much thrown around a lot, but I 393 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 5: do think it's very important and I'm sure a lot 394 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: of people can relate. If you have friends, like very 395 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: close friends, you'd probably notice you guys all typically and 396 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: really nice friendship have similar mindset, whether that's everything works 397 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 5: out in the wash or you owly eight dollars sixty five. Yeah, 398 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 5: so it's very important. 399 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: Everything works out. 400 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I've always been like that, even before I 401 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 5: was like salaried and I was working like three jobs, 402 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: I would always make sure I had enough money. If 403 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 5: I was asking someone out for coffee, I knew that 404 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 5: I had to have double the amount of money to 405 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 5: pay for their coffee, do you know what I mean? 406 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 5: So I think Tylier and I, even though we grew 407 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: up in very different household we have a very similar money. 408 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: Mindsetial money wise, Yeah. 409 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 5: And I think that's super important. And I also think 410 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 5: if you are more like you need to transmit eight 411 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: dollars for like the te quilla soda I got you, 412 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: You're probably not going to be a great person to 413 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 5: share finances with respectfully, so you do. In my opinion, 414 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 5: you need to be leaning more. Everything works out in 415 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: the wash because there are months where she'll earn. 416 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 4: A lot more than me. 417 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 5: There are months will earn a lot more than her, 418 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 5: but we're not keeping tabs on what when. 419 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: We're go traveling. 420 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: It'll be like if one of us paid for dinner 421 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 3: the night before the other one pays for the next night, 422 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: it might be double. 423 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, last night was seventy five, but didn't tonight it's 424 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: fifty five. So actually there's the living. 425 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like yesterday Tyles went to Lulu Lemon and she said, 426 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 5: do you need anything. I said, yeah, actually need me 427 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 5: a pair of leggings because it didn't bring any, and 428 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 5: then she brings them home. But I'm not sitting there thinking, oh, 429 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 5: I owe you from your dividend or anything like that, 430 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 5: and she would never expect that from me. 431 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So it's just. 432 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: Having that understanding and also maybe as well, like having 433 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: an understanding of how the setup works, Like I know 434 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: that you said that you're a bystand up, but even 435 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 3: by the way that you explained it just now, and 436 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: like the content that you share and how like she 437 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: runs it through with you. Like you know where the 438 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: money is going, you know how the system works, Whereas 439 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: I think, especially in romantic relationships, sometimes somebody will take 440 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: full control of the finances and that can maybe. 441 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: Be a bit of a troubling situation if you don't know. 442 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it just seems to be able to have 443 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 3: like the sometimes not saying that you guys have ever 444 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: had this if it is going to be too awkward 445 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: to talk about money, that you never end up talking 446 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: about it, Like that's not going to help the situation, 447 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: Like you need to be able to talk about money, 448 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: and it's not uncomfort the books not all like a 449 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: gentle very objective conversation. 450 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 5: Yes, And I always say, because I own a house 451 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 5: in Melbourne with my ex boyfriend, I say, like, when 452 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: we sell that, then titles will get fifty percent because 453 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 5: all of our investments and everything is split. 454 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: And people think it's crazy. 455 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 5: But I also think with her, like she sends me 456 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 5: a Monday update, it's like this is where our investments. 457 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: She's the bed. Yeah. 458 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 5: I'm like people always say, oh, it's like crazy. I'm like, 459 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: she's actually got the ship out of the. 460 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: Best friend relationship the same. I don't think they would judge. 461 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, because I was going to ask, is 462 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: this a long term thing or is it just while 463 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: you're living together in New York? 464 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: Like, how do you see this panning out if you 465 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: two decide to move in separate. 466 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: Cities or maybe and to like different sorts of relationships 467 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: or whatever it may be. 468 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, we always say, well, I was with my boyfriend 469 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: of six years when we started doing this, so I 470 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 5: was already in a relationship. Yeah, and then I've had 471 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 5: a boyfriend since and still shared finances with her. And 472 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 5: then we do intend on like buying maybe property together, 473 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 5: and all of our investments are together, so everything is 474 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 5: very joint. It's almost I just say, it's all like 475 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 5: a business. 476 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a business. 477 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: It's not in a minimizing way, but like it's just 478 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: like amazing to see two women like empower each other 479 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 3: and support each other as well, because I do think 480 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: that well, we've spoken about the single tax before as well, and. 481 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: How that's really really hard and so a lot. 482 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: Of people like, well, fuck, like I have to stay 483 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: with this person. Yeah, that's h and that can be 484 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 3: like really limiting as well, So you can like it 485 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: doesn't have to just be that hetero relationship. 486 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 5: I think there's so much I guess weight put on 487 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: romantic relationships and so much priority put on romantic relationships 488 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: and decided they're more important or more trusting. I'm like, 489 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: over forty percent of marriages and a divorce, and you're 490 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 5: going to share your money with the men from the pub. 491 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to share it with Talia. You 492 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 493 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Put that, dude, Okay, switching gears a little bit. 494 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 3: You work in marketing and a lot of your content 495 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: follows your career. How has your relationship with ambition changed 496 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 3: over the years, Because you know, you said that you 497 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: are a very ambitious person and that's a high value 498 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: for you, So how has that evolution evolved? 499 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: I think the best way to describe is my ambition 500 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: level has stayed the same, but the goalposts always moved. 501 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: So whilst it might seem like, oh if I achieved 502 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 5: this client or I'm working with this brand or I'm 503 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 5: doing this, my ambition is actually growing, it's not the case. 504 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 5: It's more so the goals are getting bigger and then 505 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: being achieved, and then you kind of go, okay, what 506 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: could I do next? 507 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: And then the goal get bigger and then you achieve it. 508 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: But the ambition level is very consistent in terms of 509 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 5: always wanting to be the best given in my craft. 510 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: I think that's so cool because then it means that 511 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: you're not waiting for those big opportunities to put the 512 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: hard work in. Even if it is something that might 513 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 3: be a small task or like an early stage in 514 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: your career, you can still put a lot of that 515 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: hard work and ambition. 516 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: In and that will pay off long run. 517 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 518 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 5: Even when I was running social media accounts for like 519 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 5: local cafes when I was sixteen, I was. 520 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 4: I was pushing. 521 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 5: I've been playing fifty dollars a week. I was hustling, 522 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: like we can pay you sixty five dollars a week. 523 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: Now I'm working at a startup right. 524 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 5: Yeah for six months, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it just 525 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 5: wasn't really conducd for what I wanted to do. I 526 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 5: was really long and yeah, I wasn't super passionate about 527 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 5: working there. So then I think there's a massive stigma around, oh, 528 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: you have to stay somewhere for a year, whereas kind 529 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 5: of coming back to our point of moving, I'm very 530 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 5: like fast and loose. Yeah, soit us I'm not really 531 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 5: enjoying this. I think I'm going to quit tomorrow. I 532 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 5: love that, okay, And again coming back to the shared finances, 533 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: when people say what is the benefit, that is the 534 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 5: benefit is because you can take bigger risks, I almost think, 535 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 5: and then know that that person has their salary. You have, 536 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 5: you're always on, and even if you are unhappy in 537 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 5: the workplace or you're not feeling super aligned, you can 538 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: make more irrational decisions and then pick up work slowly 539 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 5: again and know that everything will be. 540 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: What's the biggest mistake you see people making when trying 541 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: to build a personal brand. 542 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: Not being known for one thing? I definitely think there's. 543 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 5: This whole uprise of I am the niche, when in reality, 544 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 5: if you look at all of the biggest influences or 545 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 5: the biggest creators or whoever celebrities, even how they got 546 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 5: their start, they are known for one thing. So even 547 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: when people talk about alex El can post whatever she wants, yes, 548 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 5: of course she can do that now, but at one 549 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 5: point she was known for get ready with me for college, 550 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? 551 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: And it evolves. 552 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 5: So I definitely think that people need to realize that 553 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 5: just because you start in one Niche doesn't mean you 554 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 5: can never branch out. And I always say, if you 555 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 5: guys are at coffee and you were trying to describe me, 556 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 5: what do I want you to say? Yeah, so put 557 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 5: that in a mind map. And then outside of that, 558 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 5: you should be creating content that leads into that overarching thing. 559 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: And of course, just like friendships or relationships, a different 560 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 5: version of you will exist in everyone's mind. But as 561 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 5: long as you kind of have three key ones like 562 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 5: mine might be how to dress your body type, then 563 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 5: it might be TikTok girl that might be Australian in 564 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 5: New York. But as long as I do content that 565 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 5: kind of ping pongs around those three, you're kind of 566 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 5: sitting in there. 567 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: You know, that's good advice because that's easy to action. 568 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 3: Of being like okay, cool, I can draw this out 569 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: and like literally create a mind Matt. 570 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I love that shit. 571 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm like rebrand. Sorry, I'm excited, I'm hitting. 572 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: Your but you know what I mean. 573 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 5: Like Tiles and I sit a coffee all the time 574 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: and I, oh, what's that girl's name? 575 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: She does this style of content. She normally wears like here, 576 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: that's exactly. 577 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 5: What happens, you know, or even now I forgot her name, 578 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 5: the girl that's only trying to buy twelve things for the. 579 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 4: Year, Brooklyn Brooklyn boom. 580 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 581 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 5: And then I said, so funny you say that. I 582 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 5: know that she does that, but I know her for 583 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 5: the payphones calling so and I was talking about that 584 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 5: with my manager yesterday and I said, that's a perfect example. 585 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: Brook I know. 586 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 3: I saw that we've been calling her Brooklyn for like, 587 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 3: we've spoken about her a couple of times on the 588 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: pod recently, and she was like, yeah, my name's Brooke. 589 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: I just thought it was boring to put on social media. 590 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: So she's smart. 591 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yeah, because do. 592 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: You guys watch the Fat Sundays Girls? 593 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: I love that. 594 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 4: But that's that's my point, is like tell me their names. 595 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: I know and the other one I don't know any 596 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: of them. 597 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: Maybe characters will be in like literally a pub toilet 598 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: and so I won't even be with me, and she'll go, 599 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: you're two broke chicks. 600 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know one. 601 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: Of me, but it was that's my name. Yeah. 602 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: So you guys have done a wonderful job. 603 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: I feel like every girly loves marketing. Do you think 604 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: we all just fell in love with it because we 605 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: were watching like Andy Anderson and like How to Lose 606 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: a Guy in Ten Days, and like the marketing girl 607 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: right is like the modern day version of like the 608 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: two thousands rom com journalists. 609 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: I feel like the girl is just love marketing. 610 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: I think it's because it is a fun job, like 611 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: when everyone says what your hobby and I say, so 612 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 5: lome working. It's because I love it's so interesting. Yeah, 613 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 5: And I also do think because of social media and 614 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: guidelines and restraints, there's not actually a lot of people 615 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: who are like lawyers or work at VC funds or 616 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 5: private equity that are allowed. 617 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: To post, so we have more access. 618 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: To see like the inside of marketing. And of course 619 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 5: marketing girls using their marketing brains probably think how can 620 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: I make my day and lifelogs look more interesting? They 621 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: make their jobs look more interesting, the industry looks more interesting, 622 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 5: like you know, kind. 623 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: Of as I would love to know, what are your 624 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 2: marketing hills? You will die on. 625 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 5: Free shipping. Free shipping needs to be offered. We know 626 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 5: it's the biggest barrier to people purchasing. I know personally, 627 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 5: if I get to the end, even my cart was 628 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 5: like one hundred and thirty dollars if you're charging me 629 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 5: ten dollars shipping. The psychology behind it it is basically 630 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 5: an emotional response that you think, oh, I don't want 631 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 5: to do that. And I did a post on my 632 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: marketing page where I basically said, you're margin isn't the 633 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 5: consumer's problem because I think a lot of businesses will say, well, 634 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 5: it's really expensive for me. It's like, well, that's great, 635 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 5: but the consumer will go somewhere else because there's so 636 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 5: many options in e commerce these days, which is unfortunate. 637 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 5: But you kind of like, don't hate the player, hate 638 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 5: the game. 639 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: Do you have any accounts that are like your favorite 640 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: marketing accounts? 641 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 4: Well? Who do I like? Obviously the Shearlocks Girls. They 642 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: are great. 643 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 5: I wouldn't even say that they're like typically marketing. I 644 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: think Tvashkin does a really great job. Lobby Oh Jem. 645 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 5: I feel like I have to say that they were 646 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: my first client, oh Love. They do a great job 647 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 5: of educating as well as entertainment, which I really like. 648 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: I think it's harder to get people to follow brands 649 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 5: these days. 650 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah versus people. 651 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's why you see so many brands moving into 652 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: such like personality led. 653 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the reason it works well is because 654 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 5: people want to see groups of people rather than one person, 655 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 5: because in today's sand Eich, everyone wants to be a 656 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 5: content creator. So it's like, oh, I've seen this before, 657 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 5: but when you see a group, you can kind of 658 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 5: see in person dynamics. And if you don't have a 659 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 5: group of say friends at work, you'd be like, oh, 660 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: that's really cool. I just hope that they're getting paid 661 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 5: fairly and that bonuses are set accordingly. 662 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: That's fair. 663 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 664 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 3: Kind of to round out the episode, we want to 665 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: know what does a rich life look like to you, 666 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: not just financially but emotionally. 667 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 5: I always joke that like, one day I'll just delete 668 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 5: all my socials and like live in Montana. 669 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: But that's me in like a castle in Scotland. 670 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, and I'm gonna have seven cats. 671 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say. 672 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: I know everyone always says like everyone in my life 673 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 5: is really healthy, but I do think that obviously, and 674 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 5: everyone being really happy with what they're doing. 675 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: So whether that's like. 676 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: My parents at their jobs, like really enjoying their job 677 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 5: and not thinking that they just have to work, or 678 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: I know that is like a luxury, but that would 679 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: be my ultimate rich life is like everyone in my 680 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: life because I think that energy very much like bleeds 681 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 5: into how you like converse with them their life satisfaction, 682 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 5: your life satisfaction and seeing them be really happy. 683 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: And I'm throwing you a curveball as well. Perfect because 684 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: at the top of the episode we acknowledge that you 685 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: are a really good shopper, respect like like, finds like 686 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: and I would love to know if you could only 687 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: shop at five brands for the rest of your life, 688 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: what would they be? 689 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: You can take your time naked advice. Yes, I just 690 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: think four. 691 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: I know their price point has increased slightly over the 692 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 5: last five years, but really great quality, amazing. 693 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: Best jeans have ever put on. 694 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 5: Maxwell Genes tied in the way though, so if you don't, 695 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 5: you know, size up in the white ones. 696 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: I would say for affordable pieces. 697 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: This might be a bit controversial. Glassons great long sleeves. 698 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Their basics are good, basics are really good. 699 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: Basically not going to sit here and list like you know, 700 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: crazy brands. I really like the brand Eves ev Es 701 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 5: their pants. 702 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: Are they Australian? 703 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: I think they might be us. I got them and 704 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: Revolve oh, okay inku. 705 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 5: Does that count because it kind of stocks like a 706 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 5: million brands. 707 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: I think so it does, it does. 708 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 4: And then probably Reformation. 709 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: Oh I really I don't know if you know, like 710 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: the studded jeans, the black starded jeans. Yeah, I've gotten them. 711 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: I'm obsessed with them. The really great like low rise, 712 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 5: very comfy. I also have like that polka dot dress 713 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 5: from them. 714 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: Their paces are beautiful. 715 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: I remember you posted a TikTok in like the Reformation 716 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: change room, like different items being like which one do 717 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: I get? 718 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: And I was like every single I was like by 719 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: all of them. 720 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 4: The price one can be a bit crazy though they. 721 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: Do sales though they stocked at David Jones as well. 722 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: David Jones do like twenty five percent off full price 723 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: items all the time, and they do get put in 724 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: like you know when David Jones do one of those 725 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: insane sales where it's like up to eighty percent of Yeah, 726 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: they're in there. No so yeah, I got like a 727 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: Reformation top like that really puff sleeve milk made the 728 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: top for one hundred bucks. 729 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah Australian. 730 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 4: That's great because. 731 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 5: I think it's like two twenty eight US, which is 732 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 5: like free. I think it actually goes for the. 733 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: Forecasted price the margin. 734 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, when we got to Henny, we're like, oh, we'll 735 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 5: try and like the Uller tank in the Mankin and 736 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 5: then do you have the Soria address? Online shopping, but 737 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 5: I pretty much only shop online except when to come 738 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: to Australia. 739 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're so locked in now with it being like. 740 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: You're like, I know exactly what I want and I 741 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: feel like I need to do that a bit more. 742 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's so helpful though, because I feel like, you. 743 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 3: Know the silhouettes that you like, and also the brands 744 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: that have those pieces and that a good quality as well. 745 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. 746 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 5: And also sizing because obviously sizing on different sides and 747 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 5: be like the biggest bitch. 748 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, this is great. Even sometimes when 749 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: you shop at the same place. 750 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 4: It's different. 751 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: It's like I like, yeah, like I'm like, I'm trying 752 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: on jeans in the same store, but they're a different 753 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: style and it's and I'm like, it makes fucking sense. 754 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: With our guests, we always like to end with the 755 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: same question, and it's what is your biggest life lesson 756 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: so far? 757 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 5: That's like the biggest question ever, now you can do 758 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 5: it probably actually more of a simple one, but that 759 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 5: obsession beats talent every single time. 760 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: I think you can. 761 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 5: Well, you would know people that you went to like 762 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 5: university with, or even like high school with, who are 763 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: extremely talented. But unless you're really obsessed with what you do, 764 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: I don't think that you become the most successful. 765 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 766 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 5: So I feel like I'm obsessed with TikTok. I'm obsessed 767 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 5: with knowing why brands work, why they don't work, why 768 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 5: consumers shop certain things. 769 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: That's what I'm. 770 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 5: Thinking about all the time. I wouldn't say like I'm 771 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 5: overly talented, like I wasn't overly smart in school and 772 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 5: all of that stuff, like traditionally talented. So I definitely 773 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 5: think that obsession. You know, it's like if you guys 774 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 5: are obsessed with making a podcast work, you'll like look 775 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 5: at the data. 776 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 777 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: Because you're always just ticking versus someone's talented and doesn't 778 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 5: really care. It's like, oh, well that's why they always 779 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: say like you're talented but like wasted potential kind of thing. 780 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like that, and I have one hundred 781 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 3: percent agree like obsession and passion can drive you talent can't. 782 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. 783 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: God, You're a wealth of knowledge. What's our friendship on you? 784 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: Literally? 785 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 5: Like, when are you flying back? Tarles Classic? Ask her, 786 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 5: we've actually not booked our flights ask her. 787 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: I love that. 788 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: But thank you so much for making the time because 789 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: we know that you are so booked and busy. And 790 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: we'll make sure to put links to all of your 791 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: socials in the show notes for any of the chickies 792 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: who don't already follow you. 793 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, great questions. 794 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: Oh god, it. 795 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: Flapping around here, but thank you so much, And thanks 796 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: to your chicks for having us in the ear holes. 797 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: We love to be here. 798 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: We'll see you next time, CHICKIESO bye