WEBVTT - #2102 How Does Your Environment Affect Your Health? - Dr. Cam McDonald 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.920 I get a team. Craig Anthony Harper is my name. 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.560 The You Project is the show. Doctor Cam McDonald is 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:10.920 the guest. He's a gun, he's a friend. He's an academic, 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.680 he's a business owner. He's an inspirer of humans and 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.040 teacher for young, hungry and old hungry minds. 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:20.239 There you go. How's that made? 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:20.840 Is that? All? Right? 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.200 Did I do like you told me? Make it good? 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:23.319 So? 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:24.160 I did my best? 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.680 That's all I can ever ask of you. Hups? And 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 that's It's a younger version of me would have just 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.040 been putting a lot of judgment around what your best is, 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.159 you know, But now I just appreciate everyone's doing it. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.760 You know, they're doing everyone's at all times. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.400 That is so true. That is so true. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:44.519 I just had a meeting with a dude that I'm coaching, 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.160 and I can't tell you anything other than a dude 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.200 and coaching. But I can tell you, well, I guess 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.360 I can tell you a few things without giving anything 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.200 away that I shouldn't. But very very high up in 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:05.480 a very big organization, and we were talking about problem solving, communication, leadership, 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.080 conflict resolution, all the stuff, and we were just talking 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.479 about which ties into my PhD, but you get it, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.480 just this idea of not necessarily agreeing with people, but 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:20.000 understanding people and realizing in the moment that you and 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.480 I are in the same chat but not the same experience. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.400 And then so, how do I have this conversation with 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.160 you knowing that you're not thinking or seeing or feeling 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.280 or experiencing what I am, while still building connection and rapport, 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.280 knowing that I might think A and you might think 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.479 B be and that's not a problem. So this whole 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:44.840 other awareness of trying to really like, genuinely understand how 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.440 other people experience things, see the world, see the situation, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:54.440 navigate problems, interpret data or experiences so that you can 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:59.800 build real trust, connection, rapport, not based on the fact 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.600 that you like them necessarily, but just that you understand them. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.600 It's a big It's a thing that people don't really 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:08.480 think about and accept them. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:14.679 And I think that's been the It's the star that 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:19.040 we've spoken about on a different episode, But the really 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:24.000 navigating my subconscious in a proper way really really help 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.639 with that process. You just realize how many of your 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:33.360 reactions are due to a bit of fear and the 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.520 way that people see things like even though, I was 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.960 just having a chat with my co parent about a 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.400 particular person that she was having an event to me about, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.040 which is all good, it's part of the game, yes, yes, 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:48.160 And what was going through my mind is this person 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.920 is absolutely trying the best that she possibly can, but 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.440 her best is to be great and is to be 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.480 a little bit judgmental, and is to put it because 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.639 she is just scrambling to feel a sense of safety 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.600 and belonging. And the way that it projects with our 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.280 very masked minds and expressions that we have is to 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.840 come across quite uncaring when it's there's so much care happening, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.240 it's just it's a panic. It's so fascinating to you 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.079 can only really get that if you're constantly investigating into 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.160 your own space. That's saying why am I responding that way? 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:27.720 Exactly? 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.920 Yeah, And knowing that from the outside looking in, you 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.400 might be looking at something where their response or their 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:40.040 reaction or their state is completely inconsistent with what's actually 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:47.320 happening from your perspective, right, But then knowing that I 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.840 might look at that and go as objective as I 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.920 can be. To me, this seems like a one out 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:58.080 of ten problem, but for them, it's an eleven and 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.600 their literal experiences this is an eleven. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.360 So and they have no idea. 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:10.120 That that's a self imposed idea and belief which is 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:15.040 now manifesting in a personal reality. And then so for 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:21.280 the you know, the clunky bloke or girl or whatever lady, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.440 just from the outside you're like, well, she's just carrying 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.760 on or he's just carrying on about fucking nothing, But 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.479 to them it's everything. So it's not about oh, I 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.080 need to think like you or agree with you, or 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.599 endorse you. I just need to know that what you're 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.880 thinking and experiencing for you is one hundred percent correct 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:49.440 as an experience, you know, not perhaps factually or objectively. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.640 But you know, it's like I always say, the. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:56.280 Dumbest advice that gets given every fucking day, billion times 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.960 is telling worried people not to worry. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.799 I don't worry. I'm like you most well. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.800 Tell you know, a tall person not to be tall. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.200 That's how much that's going to help, you know. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.720 And it's amazing. It's so hard, and particularly if you've 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.960 got a fixing mindset, and there's a good chunk of 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.799 us that have the I need to fix this problem 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.839 in front of me mindset. It is just so amazing 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:24.040 to take that back step, say, Jesus must be tough 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:28.359 for you. I can totally understand what's going on and 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.839 then silence and then just watch them self reflect. It's 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.440 because you can't get to that self reflection if you 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.359 go into contest with somebody's feelings. And I've taken this 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.760 a step further as well, my son. My boys are 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:47.480 eleven and five, and I am properly conditioning them with 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.160 my language as far as this stuff goes. Because my son, 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:57.440 he's a little connected. He's very socially sensitive, and he's 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:02.720 a bit nervous at times and gets like his emotions 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.520 get really big, which is all normal for him. That's mate. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.240 Get you get to choose how you use these feelings. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.760 You get you are in charge of your feelings. Don't 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.080 blame other people because as soon as you blame them, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.240 it's now they've got all the power and you're not 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.800 in control of yourself anymore. I'm just every time we're 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.920 going through an emotional thing, it's just like you're in 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.480 charge of your feelings. You get to choose what you feel, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.240 and da da da da da da da. I'm just 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:32.479 praying to God that it just conditions them. By the 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.640 time he's twenty, it'll just be stuck in his head. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.799 I'm in charge of my feelings. Yeah, So it doesn't 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.719 work so well for adults to do it that way though. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.960 I Mean my perspective on that would be yes with 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.520 an asterisk, because there are times a lot of times 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:54.320 where we're not like our feelings hijack our mind. You know, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.280 we're not choosing to be sad or happy? 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:57.120 You know? 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.080 So am I in control or am I controlled? Because 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.520 I think it depends on the situation and the person. Like, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.200 there are definitely times where I think I'm reasonably evolved 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:13.480 in this kind of psychology, kind of emotion, kind of 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:18.360 self awareness, and I would say there are oftentimes where 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.000 I'm not in charge of my feelings. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.520 Okay, fair enough. What I will say then, is the 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.480 angle that I'm going for is for him to just 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.920 own his reaction. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:28.119 Right. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.240 If I'm feeling this way, it's coming from within me. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.080 Someone may have done something then I get to react, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:41.080 but it's my reaction as opposed to their making me right. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.560 That's probably a better clarification, you're. 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.200 Yeah, Yeah, because I think if I feel resentful of 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.600 old mate, and it's fucking real, that feeling real. I 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.160 can't just go no, I don't I'm in control. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.960 Agreed, agreed completely yes, yeah yeah yeah. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:00.800 So And is it like as a parent raising two 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:05.960 different kids with different personalities at different ages? Is it 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.240 like has it been a shock to you because these 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.080 are your only kids so before that no experience raising kids? 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:17.080 Of course that how differently. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.200 You need to you know, just like with pH three 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.280 sixty with all the different types. But is it how 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.760 differently you need to say the same message or solve 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.360 the same problem or address the same issue. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:36.760 It is. It's interesting because I've got two really different ages. Right, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.760 eleven and five is vast Oh yeah, eleven eleven you 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:47.160 can actually get a good conscious conversation going, right five 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.000 is I just I'm just thinking about zero to seven? 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:52.960 What's the messaging that he's got in his head? And 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.560 he's a little the five year old's a little guardian, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:02.840 so just expl people have done what sorry excuse me, sorry. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.320 Guardians have got a bigger, stronger body. They're normally protective 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:11.120 of people and their things and they're the biggest stronger body. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:17.520 It it it's built to look after people essentially, and 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.200 but then he's got a big competitive streak in him 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.520 as well. But so one of the things, because you know, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.400 his eleven year old brother from time to time will say, oh, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:32.040 you're fat, and I come down on him like a 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.640 ton of bricks about the language and all of that 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.240 sort of stuff. And so what what I can start 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.640 seeing now though, because the big thing we talk about 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:44.079 guardians think about a Samoan body. Yeah, they're strong, that's 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.800 that's like they are strong for everyone, strong for themselves, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:51.720 strong for the community. So any time any opportunity that like, geez, 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.240 look how strong your legs are. Gees, look how strong 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.280 your body is. Geez, your body is so strong. I 0:09:56.320 --> 0:10:00.000 am just hammering that, hammering that home. Whenever he thinks 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.679 about his bodies. I know it's strong because I just know, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.320 you know, I've met too many people that have just 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:08.839 had issues with their body their whole life. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:14.080 Because you're talking you're talking to one, you're literally talking 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:18.680 to a lifelong fat kid. Well for the length of 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:25.400 my childhood anyway. Yeah, and the eleven year old like 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.680 drastically obviously age plays a big role. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:35.520 But yes, it's a big one. On it's a big one. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.280 On him being heard, and I'm seeing this in my 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.719 twelve year old niece as well, just being heard, their 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:48.200 feelings being real, and so it's it's it's all my 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:53.440 job to not react and jump in and assume. I've 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:58.400 always got to investigate first. And if I investigate first 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.480 and ask good questions, it all calms down and it's fine. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.960 But it's interesting, I think, just maybe due to it 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.440 being a split home and you know, we didn't have 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:12.600 the most stable of situations early on in the piece. Yes, 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:17.040 there's a baseline level of stress in him, and he 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.679 goes into defense very very quickly. So it's just it's 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.920 just just unraveling that piece by piece, just through more 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.720 and more better interactions. But man, it's a job. It 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.960 is a job when you are highly sensitive to tone. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.840 My brain is very sensitive to tonality. As soon as 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.800 he goes into defense, you just want to you want 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.920 to stop everything, just so it's the perfect little testing 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.800 ground for me to really know what's going on. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.079 I guess for you, it's like this sounds quite. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.160 But to me it sounds almost like it's in a 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.240 nice way, but an ongoing experiment. You know, in that 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.440 it's like you're trying to figure out what's the best 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.040 strategy or the best way to love them or communicate 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.359 or connect or to make them feel validated or seen. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.040 Or safe or like. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.079 And you're you're you, and each one of them are separately, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:17.560 but then all of you collectively in this dynamic where 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.000 you're trying to figure out what's the best operating system 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.160 for me and this kid and this kid and then 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.480 both kids together, where you're trying to figure out you know, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:27.200 their code. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:33.560 Yes, one, it's a. It's a. It is an amazing experiment, 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:38.440 that is sure. Yeah, And it's one of those things 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.840 you've just got to because no, I mean, you know, 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.360 you have an inkling of what the right thing is, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.120 and you know, you get exposed to lots of different 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.199 belief systems and all of that sort of stuff when 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.600 you're just trying to navigate all of this. Yeah, you've 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:54.400 just got to pick your lane with love and and 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.320 just hope that it's going to be the right thing. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.040 It's and I think I've got some good principles in place, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.040 but yeah, there's always the question mark of is this 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.679 the right thing? Am I? Am I dying on the 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:11.280 right hill? 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:12.440 Yes? 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:18.160 Yes, I mean the reason I named this show all 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.920 those years ago, the You Project was because I've always 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:25.040 felt like my biggest challenge is me, My biggest management 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.160 project is me. The thing that I need to kind 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.680 of be less lucy goosey, and a bit of lucy 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.559 Goosey is good, but also a bit of strategy and 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.199 awareness and methodology and accountability and. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:39.920 Process, so that. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.280 Not so that life is some big boring project, but 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.320 so that I don't end up at you know, speaking 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.160 on behalf of the audience, I don't end up at 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.840 forty five or fifty or fifty five or sixty in 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:58.679 a psychological or emotional or commercial or financial or physiological 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.760 state that I wouldn't have wanted to be. But because 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:08.360 I didn't live particularly strategically, I just got up and 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.200 like I was led by emotions and feelings. Emotions and 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.800 feelings are great, but we don't really want them necessarily 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.599 to run certain parts of our life. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:18.400 You know that I was. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.520 Talking with someone the other day, Kate Save, who's a 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.840 regular on here, but just about the idea of you know, 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:25.320 what do you want to be and how do you 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.280 want to be in five years? And then so what 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.000 do you need to do now to make that potentially 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.000 a likely outcome, you know, and just that. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.840 To try to because obviously the big. 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:40.280 One is when it comes to our body, among other things, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.160 but especially our body. Like I'm emotional about my body, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.680 and I'm an excise physiologist and I've been doing this 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.800 for years and I get it, but i still am 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:55.120 not completely logical or scientific or objective about my own body. Like, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.840 even knowing all the shit I know, still a big 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.760 baby sometimes do dumb shit. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.840 I understand that, and I would I would back that up, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.920 even as a dietitian and x fiz and you know, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.560 just wanting to improve my like, I'll spend months kind 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.560 of you know, guess working it or not doing things 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.280 specific and all I'm going to do is tighten up 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.280 and actually do the things that I know are exactly 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.560 right that I would give advice to anybody else about 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.600 and it would behave the way that I would expect. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:31.240 Do you ever. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:34.920 Do you ever I feel this? I probably shouldn't say 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.240 this publicly, but fuck it, everyone knows me. I'll be 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.720 vulnerable and pathetic and honest. But do you ever feel 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.880 I have a responsibility to look or function or be 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.520 or present a certain way because that if I didn't, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.080 that would be inconsistent with my brand and what I 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:52.400 do like. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.320 I feel like that. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.160 I mean, I want to be in shape anyway, and 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:59.360 I think I would, but I think nobody wants me 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.960 on listening to all of my ship and reading my 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:06.880 shit to get up at an event and not look 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.520 like what I talk about. I don't mean being Superman 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.600 or ripped and sliced, but just I don't want to. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:13.800 I don't want to get. 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.840 Up and lookhealthy so that that my ego keeps me 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.880 in check, that my ego keeps me. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.320 Doing stuff as well as other things. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:29.160 You ever, that's the great use of an ego. The Yeah, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.040 I definitely feel that, and I would say that I 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:38.080 would probably I'm less, less associated with my body, more 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:42.720 associated with my personality and how I project myself right 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.800 when I and this is one of the harsh realities 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.800 of maybe meeting somebody and then seeing doctor camp on 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.200 a stage or a presentation or whatever it might be, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.360 and then realizing I am a total introvert and I 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.560 come out of my shell when I've got a really 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.280 big passionate message or if there's something social going on, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.320 and I would literally sit at home by myself and 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.960 just do work for ten twelve hours a day and 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:13.840 not talk to anybody quite happily, and that be okay, 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:18.160 you know, whereas there and what I guess what gets seen, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.920 So that's you know, and I've got a big community 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.879 of health professionals. And the CAM personality is sort of 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.160 the bit that I hold, and for the most part 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:32.480 it's genuinely me. But I agree, it's like me being 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.240 up and up and out with my energy and always 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:41.720 having enough and being there for people and being able 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.320 to engage in a present way. That's probably more I 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.720 assess that more within myself than my body, for example. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:54.280 But I would have to say secondarily or tertiary is 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.000 I don't want to be out of shape because I'm 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.639 talking about precision health and yeah matters. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.600 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.840 It's so funny how sometimes I do something and I go, yeah, 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:07.960 I'm still a fat four ten year old just trying 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.280 to not be that, you know, all right, So I 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.639 want to park that because I actually did intend to 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.359 talk to you about something else today, your honor, So 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.200 if we could go there, that would be good. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.920 I want to ask you. So when we talk generally, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:23.800 I know there's. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.320 Much more than what I'm about to say, but in 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:30.760 broad brushstrokes, you know, in health wellness, in the media, 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.000 social media, like we're always talking about food and exercise 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.480 and sleep and stress, and you know a bit around 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:42.080 sociology and who you spend time with and the benefit 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:47.120 of healthy relationships and you know, all of these variables 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:51.239 that are kind of we know about in terms of 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:58.040 optimizing ourselves physically, mentally, and emotionally. Like whatever emphasis you want, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:04.600 is there anything it's emergent, anything that's newish that's getting 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:09.240 more attention over the let's say, the last three years. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.880 Where we now know, oh we now know, we're. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.000 Quite certain about or we're certain this has a bigger 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.120 influence than we thought that we didn't think, say five 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.080 years ago. Like I'll give you my quick one example, 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.040 like I'm always talking to people now about among other things, 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.880 but when I do corporate gigs and we talk about 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.280 all the big rocks, you know, not the little rocks, 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.720 but the big rocks. It used to be you know, food, exercise, mindset, 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:39.439 lifestyle and in that pyramid and at the bottom of 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.199 that now I have relationships because I just think that 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.840 the kind of relationships we have and all the stuff 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.119 that's interwoven with that feeling loved, valued, scene, appreciated, connected, 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:55.280 and all the psychological, emotional and biochemical stuff that's. 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.720 Into woven around that. You know, it's like it's massive. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.080 So is there anything that. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:05.919 We now kind of becoming aware of in this space 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.920 that you operate which is kind of optimal well being 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.920 for people? And I know it varies depending on their type. 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.080 That's got your eye or fascination that you want to 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.879 share with this stuff that is not spoken about so much, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.840 or it might even be an extrapolation of something, because 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.679 I feel a little bit like in this space we 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.840 keep wheeling out the same old chestnuts. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.080 Not you and me, but just in general. 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:37.520 Yep, yep, okay. So the first thing that I would 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:39.080 say to that is actually I go to a quote 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.840 from my chief medical officer, and he said, there is 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:49.240 literally nothing new in medicine in the last two thousand years, 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:54.239 Like they were doing brain surgery in ancient Egypt. Like 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.720 he's seen the texts and watched tumors being removed from 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:03.480 children's heads on the documented in various texts, whatever it 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:07.520 might be, even to the point of certain compounds being 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:11.200 used to have almost like a chemotherapeutic effect, way way 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:14.240 back back, ages ago. So the first thought that came 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.399 to my mind was that everything that I know, everything 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:21.400 that I really focus on, they are these deep threads 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:26.000 of knowledge that we've had in one way or another forever. 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.399 The big thing that really I mean, the pops up 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.760 that I would say that we talk about less, but 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:36.960 it is so profoundly powerful that we just really don't 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.159 even put any attention on it. And that is the 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:44.879 impact of our physical environment, our exposoonics, what our environment 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:49.000 and how we're exposed. And I guess to put some 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.840 trends into that, you can look at cold immersion and 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.960 saunas and things like that. But I'm speaking more even 0:21:56.040 --> 0:22:05.159 to the movement of irons ionization electromagnetic radiation that happens 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:06.959 with changes in weather or and various things like that. 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.280 And why I say that one not because it's new, 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.119 because there's not much that's new, but because we're not 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:18.160 talking about it much, and because it's highly relatable, highly relatable. 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.120 We don't realize until you actually articulate it just how 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.399 obvious it is. And some examples of that. Most talks 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.480 that I'm doing about stress, what I do is I 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:32.399 talk through how the whole environment impacts our capacity to 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.560 deal with stress. And so one of the examples is 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:39.760 your physical environment. Who hates air conditioning? Every single person 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.400 puts their hand up for that, or no, every single room, 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:45.520 there'll be a group of people that puts their hand up, 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.320 and then there'll be a group of people that absolutely 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.880 love air conditioning. And this is a really really simple example. 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.159 But you can talk to the people that are in 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.800 very poor health air air conditioning or they don't enjoy it, 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:00.639 and you say, tell me about your mood when you're cold, 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:08.200 and they say, I'm grumpy, short, I'm impatient, And I'd say, man, 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.200 does everyone know when I asked their name on June's 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.120 June down the front here? Has anyone ever given Dune 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:15.879 the benefit of the doubt just thinking it might be 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:17.800 a little bit too cold in the room as to 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.200 why you're not having the best conversation with her. It's 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:24.040 never part of our thought process and that our physical 0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.480 environment is having. But we know it that, oh jeez, 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.960 I hate it when it's cold. Whereas there's other people 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:33.400 that get incredibly hot and bothered if their conditioning isn't 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.040 on nineteen degrees and blowing flat out in their face. 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:40.920 Then they melt and die, and there's a really interesting 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:45.080 dynamic with that with humidity, dryness, ionization. But then from 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.159