Speaker 1: I get a team. Craig Anthony Harper is my name.
Speaker 1: The You Project is the show. Doctor Cam McDonald is
Speaker 1: the guest. He's a gun, he's a friend. He's an academic,
Speaker 1: he's a business owner. He's an inspirer of humans and
Speaker 1: teacher for young, hungry and old hungry minds.
Speaker 2: There you go. How's that made?
Speaker 3: Is that? All? Right?
Speaker 2: Did I do like you told me? Make it good?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: I did my best?
Speaker 3: That's all I can ever ask of you. Hups? And
Speaker 3: that's It's a younger version of me would have just
Speaker 3: been putting a lot of judgment around what your best is,
Speaker 3: you know, But now I just appreciate everyone's doing it.
Speaker 3: You know, they're doing everyone's at all times.
Speaker 2: That is so true. That is so true.
Speaker 1: I just had a meeting with a dude that I'm coaching,
Speaker 1: and I can't tell you anything other than a dude
Speaker 1: and coaching. But I can tell you, well, I guess
Speaker 1: I can tell you a few things without giving anything
Speaker 1: away that I shouldn't. But very very high up in
Speaker 1: a very big organization, and we were talking about problem solving, communication, leadership,
Speaker 1: conflict resolution, all the stuff, and we were just talking
Speaker 1: about which ties into my PhD, but you get it,
Speaker 1: just this idea of not necessarily agreeing with people, but
Speaker 1: understanding people and realizing in the moment that you and
Speaker 1: I are in the same chat but not the same experience.
Speaker 1: And then so, how do I have this conversation with
Speaker 1: you knowing that you're not thinking or seeing or feeling
Speaker 1: or experiencing what I am, while still building connection and rapport,
Speaker 1: knowing that I might think A and you might think
Speaker 1: B be and that's not a problem. So this whole
Speaker 1: other awareness of trying to really like, genuinely understand how
Speaker 1: other people experience things, see the world, see the situation,
Speaker 1: navigate problems, interpret data or experiences so that you can
Speaker 1: build real trust, connection, rapport, not based on the fact
Speaker 1: that you like them necessarily, but just that you understand them.
Speaker 1: It's a big It's a thing that people don't really
Speaker 1: think about and accept them.
Speaker 3: And I think that's been the It's the star that
Speaker 3: we've spoken about on a different episode, But the really
Speaker 3: navigating my subconscious in a proper way really really help
Speaker 3: with that process. You just realize how many of your
Speaker 3: reactions are due to a bit of fear and the
Speaker 3: way that people see things like even though, I was
Speaker 3: just having a chat with my co parent about a
Speaker 3: particular person that she was having an event to me about,
Speaker 3: which is all good, it's part of the game, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: And what was going through my mind is this person
Speaker 3: is absolutely trying the best that she possibly can, but
Speaker 3: her best is to be great and is to be
Speaker 3: a little bit judgmental, and is to put it because
Speaker 3: she is just scrambling to feel a sense of safety
Speaker 3: and belonging. And the way that it projects with our
Speaker 3: very masked minds and expressions that we have is to
Speaker 3: come across quite uncaring when it's there's so much care happening,
Speaker 3: it's just it's a panic. It's so fascinating to you
Speaker 3: can only really get that if you're constantly investigating into
Speaker 3: your own space. That's saying why am I responding that way?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And knowing that from the outside looking in, you
Speaker 1: might be looking at something where their response or their
Speaker 1: reaction or their state is completely inconsistent with what's actually
Speaker 1: happening from your perspective, right, But then knowing that I
Speaker 1: might look at that and go as objective as I
Speaker 1: can be. To me, this seems like a one out
Speaker 1: of ten problem, but for them, it's an eleven and
Speaker 1: their literal experiences this is an eleven.
Speaker 2: So and they have no idea.
Speaker 1: That that's a self imposed idea and belief which is
Speaker 1: now manifesting in a personal reality. And then so for
Speaker 1: the you know, the clunky bloke or girl or whatever lady,
Speaker 1: just from the outside you're like, well, she's just carrying
Speaker 1: on or he's just carrying on about fucking nothing, But
Speaker 1: to them it's everything. So it's not about oh, I
Speaker 1: need to think like you or agree with you, or
Speaker 1: endorse you. I just need to know that what you're
Speaker 1: thinking and experiencing for you is one hundred percent correct
Speaker 1: as an experience, you know, not perhaps factually or objectively.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's like I always say, the.
Speaker 1: Dumbest advice that gets given every fucking day, billion times
Speaker 1: is telling worried people not to worry.
Speaker 2: I don't worry. I'm like you most well.
Speaker 1: Tell you know, a tall person not to be tall.
Speaker 1: That's how much that's going to help, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's amazing. It's so hard, and particularly if you've
Speaker 3: got a fixing mindset, and there's a good chunk of
Speaker 3: us that have the I need to fix this problem
Speaker 3: in front of me mindset. It is just so amazing
Speaker 3: to take that back step, say, Jesus must be tough
Speaker 3: for you. I can totally understand what's going on and
Speaker 3: then silence and then just watch them self reflect. It's
Speaker 3: because you can't get to that self reflection if you
Speaker 3: go into contest with somebody's feelings. And I've taken this
Speaker 3: a step further as well, my son. My boys are
Speaker 3: eleven and five, and I am properly conditioning them with
Speaker 3: my language as far as this stuff goes. Because my son,
Speaker 3: he's a little connected. He's very socially sensitive, and he's
Speaker 3: a bit nervous at times and gets like his emotions
Speaker 3: get really big, which is all normal for him. That's mate.
Speaker 3: Get you get to choose how you use these feelings.
Speaker 3: You get you are in charge of your feelings. Don't
Speaker 3: blame other people because as soon as you blame them,
Speaker 3: it's now they've got all the power and you're not
Speaker 3: in control of yourself anymore. I'm just every time we're
Speaker 3: going through an emotional thing, it's just like you're in
Speaker 3: charge of your feelings. You get to choose what you feel,
Speaker 3: and da da da da da da da. I'm just
Speaker 3: praying to God that it just conditions them. By the
Speaker 3: time he's twenty, it'll just be stuck in his head.
Speaker 3: I'm in charge of my feelings. Yeah, So it doesn't
Speaker 3: work so well for adults to do it that way though.
Speaker 1: I Mean my perspective on that would be yes with
Speaker 1: an asterisk, because there are times a lot of times
Speaker 1: where we're not like our feelings hijack our mind. You know,
Speaker 1: we're not choosing to be sad or happy?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: So am I in control or am I controlled? Because
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the situation and the person. Like,
Speaker 1: there are definitely times where I think I'm reasonably evolved
Speaker 1: in this kind of psychology, kind of emotion, kind of
Speaker 1: self awareness, and I would say there are oftentimes where
Speaker 1: I'm not in charge of my feelings.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. What I will say then, is the
Speaker 3: angle that I'm going for is for him to just
Speaker 3: own his reaction.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: If I'm feeling this way, it's coming from within me.
Speaker 3: Someone may have done something then I get to react,
Speaker 3: but it's my reaction as opposed to their making me right.
Speaker 3: That's probably a better clarification, you're.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, because I think if I feel resentful of
Speaker 1: old mate, and it's fucking real, that feeling real. I
Speaker 1: can't just go no, I don't I'm in control.
Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed completely yes, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So And is it like as a parent raising two
Speaker 1: different kids with different personalities at different ages? Is it
Speaker 1: like has it been a shock to you because these
Speaker 1: are your only kids so before that no experience raising kids?
Speaker 2: Of course that how differently.
Speaker 1: You need to you know, just like with pH three
Speaker 1: sixty with all the different types. But is it how
Speaker 1: differently you need to say the same message or solve
Speaker 1: the same problem or address the same issue.
Speaker 3: It is. It's interesting because I've got two really different ages. Right,
Speaker 3: eleven and five is vast Oh yeah, eleven eleven you
Speaker 3: can actually get a good conscious conversation going, right five
Speaker 3: is I just I'm just thinking about zero to seven?
Speaker 3: What's the messaging that he's got in his head? And
Speaker 3: he's a little the five year old's a little guardian,
Speaker 3: so just expl people have done what sorry excuse me, sorry.
Speaker 3: Guardians have got a bigger, stronger body. They're normally protective
Speaker 3: of people and their things and they're the biggest stronger body.
Speaker 3: It it it's built to look after people essentially, and
Speaker 3: but then he's got a big competitive streak in him
Speaker 3: as well. But so one of the things, because you know,
Speaker 3: his eleven year old brother from time to time will say, oh,
Speaker 3: you're fat, and I come down on him like a
Speaker 3: ton of bricks about the language and all of that
Speaker 3: sort of stuff. And so what what I can start
Speaker 3: seeing now though, because the big thing we talk about
Speaker 3: guardians think about a Samoan body. Yeah, they're strong, that's
Speaker 3: that's like they are strong for everyone, strong for themselves,
Speaker 3: strong for the community. So any time any opportunity that like, geez,
Speaker 3: look how strong your legs are. Gees, look how strong
Speaker 3: your body is. Geez, your body is so strong. I
Speaker 3: am just hammering that, hammering that home. Whenever he thinks
Speaker 3: about his bodies. I know it's strong because I just know,
Speaker 3: you know, I've met too many people that have just
Speaker 3: had issues with their body their whole life.
Speaker 1: Because you're talking you're talking to one, you're literally talking
Speaker 1: to a lifelong fat kid. Well for the length of
Speaker 1: my childhood anyway. Yeah, and the eleven year old like
Speaker 1: drastically obviously age plays a big role.
Speaker 3: But yes, it's a big one. On it's a big one.
Speaker 3: On him being heard, and I'm seeing this in my
Speaker 3: twelve year old niece as well, just being heard, their
Speaker 3: feelings being real, and so it's it's it's all my
Speaker 3: job to not react and jump in and assume. I've
Speaker 3: always got to investigate first. And if I investigate first
Speaker 3: and ask good questions, it all calms down and it's fine.
Speaker 3: But it's interesting, I think, just maybe due to it
Speaker 3: being a split home and you know, we didn't have
Speaker 3: the most stable of situations early on in the piece. Yes,
Speaker 3: there's a baseline level of stress in him, and he
Speaker 3: goes into defense very very quickly. So it's just it's
Speaker 3: just just unraveling that piece by piece, just through more
Speaker 3: and more better interactions. But man, it's a job. It
Speaker 3: is a job when you are highly sensitive to tone.
Speaker 3: My brain is very sensitive to tonality. As soon as
Speaker 3: he goes into defense, you just want to you want
Speaker 3: to stop everything, just so it's the perfect little testing
Speaker 3: ground for me to really know what's going on.
Speaker 2: I guess for you, it's like this sounds quite.
Speaker 1: But to me it sounds almost like it's in a
Speaker 1: nice way, but an ongoing experiment. You know, in that
Speaker 1: it's like you're trying to figure out what's the best
Speaker 1: strategy or the best way to love them or communicate
Speaker 1: or connect or to make them feel validated or seen.
Speaker 2: Or safe or like.
Speaker 1: And you're you're you, and each one of them are separately,
Speaker 1: but then all of you collectively in this dynamic where
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out what's the best operating system
Speaker 1: for me and this kid and this kid and then
Speaker 1: both kids together, where you're trying to figure out you know,
Speaker 1: their code.
Speaker 3: Yes, one, it's a. It's a. It is an amazing experiment,
Speaker 3: that is sure. Yeah, And it's one of those things
Speaker 3: you've just got to because no, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: you have an inkling of what the right thing is,
Speaker 3: and you know, you get exposed to lots of different
Speaker 3: belief systems and all of that sort of stuff when
Speaker 3: you're just trying to navigate all of this. Yeah, you've
Speaker 3: just got to pick your lane with love and and
Speaker 3: just hope that it's going to be the right thing.
Speaker 3: It's and I think I've got some good principles in place,
Speaker 3: but yeah, there's always the question mark of is this
Speaker 3: the right thing? Am I? Am I dying on the
Speaker 3: right hill?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean the reason I named this show all
Speaker 1: those years ago, the You Project was because I've always
Speaker 1: felt like my biggest challenge is me, My biggest management
Speaker 1: project is me. The thing that I need to kind
Speaker 1: of be less lucy goosey, and a bit of lucy
Speaker 1: Goosey is good, but also a bit of strategy and
Speaker 1: awareness and methodology and accountability and.
Speaker 2: Process, so that.
Speaker 1: Not so that life is some big boring project, but
Speaker 1: so that I don't end up at you know, speaking
Speaker 1: on behalf of the audience, I don't end up at
Speaker 1: forty five or fifty or fifty five or sixty in
Speaker 1: a psychological or emotional or commercial or financial or physiological
Speaker 1: state that I wouldn't have wanted to be. But because
Speaker 1: I didn't live particularly strategically, I just got up and
Speaker 1: like I was led by emotions and feelings. Emotions and
Speaker 1: feelings are great, but we don't really want them necessarily
Speaker 1: to run certain parts of our life.
Speaker 2: You know that I was.
Speaker 1: Talking with someone the other day, Kate Save, who's a
Speaker 1: regular on here, but just about the idea of you know,
Speaker 1: what do you want to be and how do you
Speaker 1: want to be in five years? And then so what
Speaker 1: do you need to do now to make that potentially
Speaker 1: a likely outcome, you know, and just that.
Speaker 2: To try to because obviously the big.
Speaker 1: One is when it comes to our body, among other things,
Speaker 1: but especially our body. Like I'm emotional about my body,
Speaker 1: and I'm an excise physiologist and I've been doing this
Speaker 1: for years and I get it, but i still am
Speaker 1: not completely logical or scientific or objective about my own body. Like,
Speaker 1: even knowing all the shit I know, still a big
Speaker 1: baby sometimes do dumb shit.
Speaker 3: I understand that, and I would I would back that up,
Speaker 3: even as a dietitian and x fiz and you know,
Speaker 3: just wanting to improve my like, I'll spend months kind
Speaker 3: of you know, guess working it or not doing things
Speaker 3: specific and all I'm going to do is tighten up
Speaker 3: and actually do the things that I know are exactly
Speaker 3: right that I would give advice to anybody else about
Speaker 3: and it would behave the way that I would expect.
Speaker 3: Do you ever.
Speaker 1: Do you ever I feel this? I probably shouldn't say
Speaker 1: this publicly, but fuck it, everyone knows me. I'll be
Speaker 1: vulnerable and pathetic and honest. But do you ever feel
Speaker 1: I have a responsibility to look or function or be
Speaker 1: or present a certain way because that if I didn't,
Speaker 1: that would be inconsistent with my brand and what I
Speaker 1: do like.
Speaker 2: I feel like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to be in shape anyway, and
Speaker 1: I think I would, but I think nobody wants me
Speaker 1: on listening to all of my ship and reading my
Speaker 1: shit to get up at an event and not look
Speaker 1: like what I talk about. I don't mean being Superman
Speaker 1: or ripped and sliced, but just I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get.
Speaker 1: Up and lookhealthy so that that my ego keeps me
Speaker 1: in check, that my ego keeps me.
Speaker 2: Doing stuff as well as other things.
Speaker 3: You ever, that's the great use of an ego. The Yeah,
Speaker 3: I definitely feel that, and I would say that I
Speaker 3: would probably I'm less, less associated with my body, more
Speaker 3: associated with my personality and how I project myself right
Speaker 3: when I and this is one of the harsh realities
Speaker 3: of maybe meeting somebody and then seeing doctor camp on
Speaker 3: a stage or a presentation or whatever it might be,
Speaker 3: and then realizing I am a total introvert and I
Speaker 3: come out of my shell when I've got a really
Speaker 3: big passionate message or if there's something social going on,
Speaker 3: and I would literally sit at home by myself and
Speaker 3: just do work for ten twelve hours a day and
Speaker 3: not talk to anybody quite happily, and that be okay,
Speaker 3: you know, whereas there and what I guess what gets seen,
Speaker 3: So that's you know, and I've got a big community
Speaker 3: of health professionals. And the CAM personality is sort of
Speaker 3: the bit that I hold, and for the most part
Speaker 3: it's genuinely me. But I agree, it's like me being
Speaker 3: up and up and out with my energy and always
Speaker 3: having enough and being there for people and being able
Speaker 3: to engage in a present way. That's probably more I
Speaker 3: assess that more within myself than my body, for example.
Speaker 3: But I would have to say secondarily or tertiary is
Speaker 3: I don't want to be out of shape because I'm
Speaker 3: talking about precision health and yeah matters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's so funny how sometimes I do something and I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still a fat four ten year old just trying
Speaker 1: to not be that, you know, all right, So I
Speaker 1: want to park that because I actually did intend to
Speaker 1: talk to you about something else today, your honor, So
Speaker 1: if we could go there, that would be good.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you. So when we talk generally,
Speaker 2: I know there's.
Speaker 1: Much more than what I'm about to say, but in
Speaker 1: broad brushstrokes, you know, in health wellness, in the media,
Speaker 1: social media, like we're always talking about food and exercise
Speaker 1: and sleep and stress, and you know a bit around
Speaker 1: sociology and who you spend time with and the benefit
Speaker 1: of healthy relationships and you know, all of these variables
Speaker 1: that are kind of we know about in terms of
Speaker 1: optimizing ourselves physically, mentally, and emotionally. Like whatever emphasis you want,
Speaker 1: is there anything it's emergent, anything that's newish that's getting
Speaker 1: more attention over the let's say, the last three years.
Speaker 2: Where we now know, oh we now know, we're.
Speaker 1: Quite certain about or we're certain this has a bigger
Speaker 1: influence than we thought that we didn't think, say five
Speaker 1: years ago. Like I'll give you my quick one example,
Speaker 1: like I'm always talking to people now about among other things,
Speaker 1: but when I do corporate gigs and we talk about
Speaker 1: all the big rocks, you know, not the little rocks,
Speaker 1: but the big rocks. It used to be you know, food, exercise, mindset,
Speaker 1: lifestyle and in that pyramid and at the bottom of
Speaker 1: that now I have relationships because I just think that
Speaker 1: the kind of relationships we have and all the stuff
Speaker 1: that's interwoven with that feeling loved, valued, scene, appreciated, connected,
Speaker 1: and all the psychological, emotional and biochemical stuff that's.
Speaker 2: Into woven around that. You know, it's like it's massive.
Speaker 2: So is there anything that.
Speaker 1: We now kind of becoming aware of in this space
Speaker 1: that you operate which is kind of optimal well being
Speaker 1: for people? And I know it varies depending on their type.
Speaker 1: That's got your eye or fascination that you want to
Speaker 1: share with this stuff that is not spoken about so much,
Speaker 1: or it might even be an extrapolation of something, because
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit like in this space we
Speaker 1: keep wheeling out the same old chestnuts.
Speaker 2: Not you and me, but just in general.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, okay. So the first thing that I would
Speaker 3: say to that is actually I go to a quote
Speaker 3: from my chief medical officer, and he said, there is
Speaker 3: literally nothing new in medicine in the last two thousand years,
Speaker 3: Like they were doing brain surgery in ancient Egypt. Like
Speaker 3: he's seen the texts and watched tumors being removed from
Speaker 3: children's heads on the documented in various texts, whatever it
Speaker 3: might be, even to the point of certain compounds being
Speaker 3: used to have almost like a chemotherapeutic effect, way way
Speaker 3: back back, ages ago. So the first thought that came
Speaker 3: to my mind was that everything that I know, everything
Speaker 3: that I really focus on, they are these deep threads
Speaker 3: of knowledge that we've had in one way or another forever.
Speaker 3: The big thing that really I mean, the pops up
Speaker 3: that I would say that we talk about less, but
Speaker 3: it is so profoundly powerful that we just really don't
Speaker 3: even put any attention on it. And that is the
Speaker 3: impact of our physical environment, our exposoonics, what our environment
Speaker 3: and how we're exposed. And I guess to put some
Speaker 3: trends into that, you can look at cold immersion and
Speaker 3: saunas and things like that. But I'm speaking more even
Speaker 3: to the movement of irons ionization electromagnetic radiation that happens
Speaker 3: with changes in weather or and various things like that.
Speaker 3: And why I say that one not because it's new,
Speaker 3: because there's not much that's new, but because we're not
Speaker 3: talking about it much, and because it's highly relatable, highly relatable.
Speaker 3: We don't realize until you actually articulate it just how
Speaker 3: obvious it is. And some examples of that. Most talks
Speaker 3: that I'm doing about stress, what I do is I
Speaker 3: talk through how the whole environment impacts our capacity to
Speaker 3: deal with stress. And so one of the examples is
Speaker 3: your physical environment. Who hates air conditioning? Every single person
Speaker 3: puts their hand up for that, or no, every single room,
Speaker 3: there'll be a group of people that puts their hand up,
Speaker 3: and then there'll be a group of people that absolutely
Speaker 3: love air conditioning. And this is a really really simple example.
Speaker 3: But you can talk to the people that are in
Speaker 3: very poor health air air conditioning or they don't enjoy it,
Speaker 3: and you say, tell me about your mood when you're cold,
Speaker 3: and they say, I'm grumpy, short, I'm impatient, And I'd say, man,
Speaker 3: does everyone know when I asked their name on June's
Speaker 3: June down the front here? Has anyone ever given Dune
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt just thinking it might be
Speaker 3: a little bit too cold in the room as to
Speaker 3: why you're not having the best conversation with her. It's
Speaker 3: never part of our thought process and that our physical
Speaker 3: environment is having. But we know it that, oh jeez,
Speaker 3: I hate it when it's cold. Whereas there's other people
Speaker 3: that get incredibly hot and bothered if their conditioning isn't
Speaker 3: on nineteen degrees and blowing flat out in their face.
Speaker 3: Then they melt and die, and there's a really interesting
Speaker 3: dynamic with that with humidity, dryness, ionization. But then from
Speaker 3: some of our work as well, and this is something
Speaker 3: that as more people sort of search for the optimal
Speaker 3: place to live and they try and create their little retreats.
Speaker 3: We've had a few people that have gone to the
Speaker 3: mountains to do this Colorado, particularly two of them in fact,
Speaker 3: and all of these symptoms have started playing out, weight gain,
Speaker 3: headaches when they've gone up the mountain, and then we've
Speaker 3: gone through the process of understanding what their body is
Speaker 3: about and just due to the way that they dispose
Speaker 3: of oxygen and how they deal with higher altitude and
Speaker 3: the negative ionization because some people can't tolerate lots of
Speaker 3: negative ionization. Negative ions come from forested areas, waterfalls, places
Speaker 3: with plants and water essentially, and so you're going to
Speaker 3: have lots of negative ionization there, and you have lots
Speaker 3: of it in the mountains, you have less of it
Speaker 3: in the desert. You have more positive ionization in the desert.
Speaker 3: As the wind comes across the desert, it creates positive ionization,
Speaker 3: and some populations do really well with that so these
Speaker 3: two people were both desert like bodies living in the mountains,
Speaker 3: and or ten years of symptoms, could not figure it out,
Speaker 3: gone to every earnosed throat specialists, every natural path fact puncturist,
Speaker 3: integrative doctor. Ten years. Literally it said in the profile,
Speaker 3: you can't live above this altitude. You've got to move
Speaker 3: down the mountain. Move down the mountain. Two weeks resolution
Speaker 3: of symptoms. Nothing to do with her diet, nothing to
Speaker 3: do with anything else other than your body doesn't like
Speaker 3: this altitude. And so of course you've got symptoms. And
Speaker 3: then we've got another one of our very best coaches
Speaker 3: that works with us. She lives in the mountains in Colorado.
Speaker 3: She knows her body doesn't tolerate it, and so she's
Speaker 3: essentially changed her house so that she can tolerate living
Speaker 3: at altitude a little bit more, but just knows that
Speaker 3: at certain times of the year she's not going to
Speaker 3: be feeling great. It's really really fascinating. And then I
Speaker 3: don't know if you want to interject there, but I've
Speaker 3: got a few other stories I can share.
Speaker 1: No, no, I do, but I won't because that is
Speaker 1: fucking fascinating.
Speaker 3: Keep going, amazing, amazing, so, and then there's this in Europe,
Speaker 3: there's this They have this wind called the fiend fo Hn.
Speaker 3: I believe it's spelled and wow.
Speaker 2: There we'd test after the show kids.
Speaker 3: So at a particular time of year, this wind, this
Speaker 3: alpine wind, comes down off the mountain and it is
Speaker 3: known to have more psychotic events, more car crashes, more
Speaker 3: psychological dramas, more physical symptoms at this particular time of
Speaker 3: year when the ionization changes in the air. And I
Speaker 3: think that's absolutely fascinating, not just that, but I don't
Speaker 3: And you'll notice this is one of the things. Everyone
Speaker 3: gets a bit stir crazy when it's windy, you know,
Speaker 3: when you get that really weird windy change. Interestingly, about that, like,
Speaker 3: it definitely changes your physiology. It heightens your stress levels
Speaker 3: a little bit, and you'll express stress in different ways.
Speaker 3: For example, waking up with a sore neck is very
Speaker 3: very common when there's that windy change, if you've got
Speaker 3: a particular predisposition for a tight neck. Interestingly, the Chinese
Speaker 3: spoke about this, and they call it having wind. Literally,
Speaker 3: they described it as when the wind changes, or when
Speaker 3: there's a change in the airflow and there's an ionization change,
Speaker 3: your body responds to that as well because it's being
Speaker 3: held in a balance. And this is where we can
Speaker 3: get into the quantum space as well as that we
Speaker 3: are all just a whole pile of electromagnetic charge that
Speaker 3: holds itself together through whatever people think is the governing
Speaker 3: frequency of our body, whatever that might be. And so
Speaker 3: when ions come through, it actually changes that field and
Speaker 3: changes how you feel as a result of that, and
Speaker 3: the you know, what do we do? We go to
Speaker 3: the physio and we try and get it sort of,
Speaker 3: but it's got nothing to do with that. It's got
Speaker 3: everything to do with the effect of this wind on
Speaker 3: a nervous system. And more fascinatingly than that is that
Speaker 3: you think you close the doors and you feel better,
Speaker 3: but the ions travel through the walls like they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't stop just because you shut the doors. And
Speaker 3: so if it's really windy outside, you'll feel it. When
Speaker 3: it's raining outside, there's a massive charge difference in the
Speaker 3: ionization and you feel it. You can feel it when
Speaker 3: it's going to be stormy even though you're inside. So
Speaker 3: I find this stuff really fat, and I'll go a
Speaker 3: couple more and then we can start changing about it. Mate.
Speaker 2: You trust me, this is great. Just go.
Speaker 3: We have one lady with rheumatoid arthritis. Now, rhumatoid arthritis
Speaker 3: is an accumulation, it's an autoimine condition. You accumulate a
Speaker 3: lot of fluid. It's pain in your joints. It's an interesting,
Speaker 3: interesting thing, and it comes along with inflammation and a
Speaker 3: few other things. So if you look at this from
Speaker 3: an Eastern medicine perspective, it is an excess of humidity.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. You're accumulating too much fluid. And
Speaker 3: so one of the treatments. This is our chief medical office.
Speaker 3: He's just a weapon. He's just he's just such a
Speaker 3: he's he's our modern day Hippocrates. And I say that
Speaker 3: without reservation, knowing how big a statement that is. He
Speaker 3: sent this lady, she lived in a humid, cool, humid
Speaker 3: environment in Europe. Sent he sent her to holiday in
Speaker 3: a dry, warm place, which is the opposite of humidity.
Speaker 3: And what happened. And then he applied her with garlic,
Speaker 3: which is also very drying from a Chinese medicine perspective
Speaker 3: as well. Yes, yes, complete resolution of symptoms on holidays
Speaker 3: for two weeks. She then goes back home and the
Speaker 3: symptoms come back, and this is it becomes a really
Speaker 3: interesting conversation around well where should I live, because yes,
Speaker 3: we spend time in an environment where we just cannot
Speaker 3: get ahead because we are constantly facing against another. One
Speaker 3: is some individuals we call them diplomats, diplomatic like an
Speaker 3: ian thorpe type of structure. They're big, tall, but they're bendy,
Speaker 3: you know, and they're not hype lean, but they're like
Speaker 3: glamoizons and tall lumberjacks, is a simple way of describing them.
Speaker 3: And they require a little bit of humidity. They need
Speaker 3: a little bit cool humidity because they overheat and when
Speaker 3: they go out out west in Australia, which is it's
Speaker 3: very dry out to the west of the East Coast,
Speaker 3: and that dryness, their body overcompensates and gets really congested
Speaker 3: like their mucos or layer doesn't deal with it well.
Speaker 3: They get headaches, they get sinus issues consistently. And some
Speaker 3: people are living in the bush, just hating life, trying
Speaker 3: to take clarentine, trying to do all the things. But
Speaker 3: it's literally they need a humidifier in their house because
Speaker 3: their body has a particular balance that other bodies be
Speaker 3: totally fine. With that dry, arid kind of feeling. And
Speaker 3: if you go to Dubai, you'll see a bucketload of
Speaker 3: people that are designed for the desert. They're all sure muscular,
Speaker 3: sinewy bodies. They look dry, and they don't do well overhydrating.
Speaker 3: In fact, there's some bodies for this reason that they
Speaker 3: want a drier environment and if they overhydrate, it just
Speaker 3: rips the electrolytes out of them and it's not so good.
Speaker 3: Whereas another person they should just be doing nothing but
Speaker 3: drinking water all day because of the way they regulate fluid.
Speaker 3: So the the it brings up such an interesting conversation
Speaker 3: and to the point where in practical reality, I'll notice
Speaker 3: I've got probably a three or four degree range where
Speaker 3: I'm really comfortable and I can be in flow. I'll
Speaker 3: just find some afternoons I'm like, whins work so hard,
Speaker 3: I'll turn the AC on just for a few moments,
Speaker 3: all of my energy comes back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And similarly, if I'm too cold, I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 3: but as soon as I get a bit warm, I'm
Speaker 3: back in flow. And this is but what we need
Speaker 3: to be aware of is how do I feel when
Speaker 3: it's humid? How do I feel when it's dry. How
Speaker 3: do I feel when it's windy? How do I feel
Speaker 3: where and when the ac is blowing on me directly? Like, really,
Speaker 3: my best version of my environment is airkon on door open,
Speaker 3: which is the worst thing in the world for the environment. However,
Speaker 3: I need a little bit of humidity, but I need
Speaker 3: it to be cooler, so I don't need it. I
Speaker 3: don't like it to be totally dry. So anyway, so
Speaker 3: it's there, and then we start getting into cold immersion
Speaker 3: and saunas and various things like that which are having
Speaker 3: a very profound physiological strain on us. But what's so
Speaker 3: interesting is the place that we're living right now. It's
Speaker 3: this constant background stress that can be driving conditions that
Speaker 3: we're just trying to be treatd for twenty years, but
Speaker 3: we've never looked actually how the physical environment and climate
Speaker 3: is influencing us and the current of impact that that has.
Speaker 2: Mate that.
Speaker 1: Seriously, it's about the best fifteen minutes we've ever got
Speaker 1: from you. Whatever you drink in the air, keep drinking that. No, men,
Speaker 1: you're always good. You're amazing to keep going on that.
Speaker 1: But I want to mention just a couple of things.
Speaker 1: So it's so funny when I think about what impacts
Speaker 1: my mood. I'm just talking specifically to me my mood
Speaker 1: and my cognitive function, how well I can articulate, think,
Speaker 1: you know, express right, do that stuff? Read a paper,
Speaker 1: you know how exciting they are actually remember what's in
Speaker 1: the paper, And just how I feel. I need to
Speaker 1: be in an environment that i'm really or I operate
Speaker 1: better obviously as most people do, in an environment that's
Speaker 1: very comfortable for me. And so that is and I've
Speaker 1: spoken about this many times before, so apologies listeners, but
Speaker 1: I just created an office that I love being in
Speaker 1: my upstairs bit of my house.
Speaker 2: I just look out and I've just got.
Speaker 1: A sea of trees. I can't see any of suburbia.
Speaker 1: I can only see trees. I have this super cushy carpet.
Speaker 1: I never wear shoes unless I have to put on
Speaker 1: shoes because I'm going to go to a place. So
Speaker 1: right now I'm sitting in bare feet. Every time we podcast,
Speaker 1: I don't even wear shoes in the house. I take
Speaker 1: them off at the door and I never put them on.
Speaker 1: Yeah sure and me both, bro. So you know it's
Speaker 1: like we just showed our bare feet to each other,
Speaker 1: like to old dick heads.
Speaker 2: But anyway, forgive us.
Speaker 1: And yeah, if I'm in this environment and I've got
Speaker 1: ac above my head and sometimes I turn that on
Speaker 1: for five minutes and I feel ten cents smarter five
Speaker 1: minutes later, I'm a bit like you. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: knowing how your body works in a particular environment, and.
Speaker 2: Like, what is the environment that you need.
Speaker 1: To construct for you to be somewhere close to optimal?
Speaker 1: And that could be Like I coached a lady. I
Speaker 1: don't coach anymore. But she hated shouldn't hate work, She
Speaker 1: just she hated sitting in basically large cubicle.
Speaker 2: It wasn't an office, it wasn't a tiny cubicle.
Speaker 1: And apart from a few other things, we just figured
Speaker 1: out that if she just surrounded herself with plants, which
Speaker 1: she did, yeah, she was so much happier, so much happier, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, and so she had. I never went there,
Speaker 1: but she showed me a far I don't know. She
Speaker 1: must have had twenty plants in her office or her space,
Speaker 1: like every bit that she could fill. And she almost
Speaker 1: wanted me to tell her boss that she's not crazy
Speaker 1: and that it was actually good for her productivity and
Speaker 1: focus and energy, happiness, and yeah, just that and that
Speaker 1: was the only change that relative to that issue that
Speaker 1: we made.
Speaker 2: And yeah, life got better just for that.
Speaker 3: Yep. I've got mates that they've got a barren bedroom
Speaker 3: at home and then they go to their girlfriend's place
Speaker 3: and there's plants all through the bedroom and they sleep
Speaker 3: an hour more deep sleep. They just get so much
Speaker 3: more quality out of it. There's another example of a
Speaker 3: CEO that I was coaching. He would literally carry his
Speaker 3: potted plant from room to room to have it next
Speaker 3: to him because he just realized how great it is
Speaker 3: to have a little bit of foliage no matter where
Speaker 3: he is. Yes, the Yeah, it's so fascinating the impact.
Speaker 3: And what's interesting is that for some people it's plants,
Speaker 3: and then for another person it is I just need
Speaker 3: the place to be organized so that I know where
Speaker 3: everything is. Other people need it, And so that's one
Speaker 3: type of person. Another type person is I need it
Speaker 3: to look visually amazing, but I'm going to get bored
Speaker 3: of it in three weeks and I'm going to change it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And then you'll see people that are constantly rotating their
Speaker 3: furniture and doing different things that they look and feel
Speaker 3: all of the time. Then you'll have other individuals where
Speaker 3: it does not matter what is going on around them,
Speaker 3: as long as they've got a square of space for
Speaker 3: their laptop and good Wi Fi and things work efficiently.
Speaker 3: It's not even about what it looks like. It's that
Speaker 3: it's functional. My space is is efficient, and my digital
Speaker 3: space is efficient, then I'm fine. We had another individual
Speaker 3: with really significant I think I've shared this before on
Speaker 3: the party bit. I'll share it again because it's super relevant.
Speaker 3: One individual, she was the highest depression an Diety score
Speaker 3: I've ever seen ever on the DAS twenty one on
Speaker 3: day one of our program with their company. All we
Speaker 3: did because we realized that she's a total introvert, Like
Speaker 3: we measured a total introvert, very sensitive to bright lights.
Speaker 3: Some people are more light sensitive, so it actually is
Speaker 3: overwhelming to have lights. Very sensitive to air conditioning and cold,
Speaker 3: very sensitive to noise. Essentially what we call them a
Speaker 3: sensor and their nervous system is just dialed up to
Speaker 3: a thousand and they are constantly just analyzing what's going on.
Speaker 3: If there's too much is too much, so what would happen?
Speaker 3: She'd be sitting in this environment, all of these environmental factors,
Speaker 3: bright lights, lots of noise, air conditioning coming at her.
Speaker 3: She would get overwhelmed. She then wouldn't be able to
Speaker 3: do her work properly. She would then start spiraling down
Speaker 3: into negativity about I just can't get out of this hole.
Speaker 3: Day two, we put her in a room by herself
Speaker 3: because there was a spare office and no one was
Speaker 3: using it. We said, look, she would really benefit from
Speaker 3: going into the private room. You should probably put her
Speaker 3: in there. She walks into the private room, controls the
Speaker 3: temperature in there, dims the lights. Her scores went to
Speaker 3: death twenty one Like she was probably like a seventeen
Speaker 3: or eighteen points she had. She went down to a
Speaker 3: zero by end of week one. And what it showed
Speaker 3: is it had nothing to do with her mental function.
Speaker 3: It had everything to do with how overwhelmed her system
Speaker 3: was by all of the sensory input from the environment.
Speaker 3: And it's wow, it's just yeah, it's so underrated. But again,
Speaker 3: the roots go back to Eastern medicine five thousand years ago.
Speaker 3: You know, this isn't new stuff, but it's it's got
Speaker 3: a great application.
Speaker 1: Now, that's amazing that desk gyal everyone past twenty one
Speaker 1: looks at depression and anxiety.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what that is.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I've just acquired, come across
Speaker 1: connected with, I don't know what the term is, a
Speaker 1: Chinese doctor, and dude, I love him so much. Like
Speaker 1: this is going to sound strange, but I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: I met him and one minute in I went, I
Speaker 1: trust you, and I don't trust people. Quickly I'm like,
Speaker 1: I trust you. And then I had to put all
Speaker 1: my you know, clinical western eve fucking whatever, alleged academic, logical,
Speaker 1: allegedly brain just park it for.
Speaker 2: A moment, and then you know, I sit down.
Speaker 1: He looks at me, He looks in my eyes, looks
Speaker 1: at my tongue, takes my pulse, and then he proceeds
Speaker 1: to tell me all this stuff about me, which was
Speaker 1: just spot on right. And I saw him the other
Speaker 1: day and I'm seeing him tomorrow and I said, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I had a few symptoms.
Speaker 2: I won't say what.
Speaker 1: He Yeah, so I've had this thing where I think
Speaker 1: I've got a virus or an infection or something that
Speaker 1: I'm coming out of but really affects cognitive function, focus, energy,
Speaker 1: like all of it, and he goes.
Speaker 2: Are you thirsty? I go, yeah, like stupid thirsty.
Speaker 1: And it's not diabetes and it's not prostrates, not all
Speaker 1: that I've had that done. And he goes, and when
Speaker 1: you drink, are you still thirsty after you drink?
Speaker 2: And I go, yes, you know, he just asked.
Speaker 1: Me this stuff where he knew the answer, but there
Speaker 1: was no signs, right, there was, and then he then
Speaker 1: I go, ah, fuck it.
Speaker 2: Then I just lie down and.
Speaker 1: He puts these all these you know, bottle things on
Speaker 1: me and lights the thing and sticks one million fucking
Speaker 1: needles in me and then gives me these little looks.
Speaker 2: Like rabbit poo to take. And I do not.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to understand, Like I'm just like cool,
Speaker 1: and I just go, I've been a few times now,
Speaker 1: and I just I look forward to going. And you know,
Speaker 1: my experience and medical Western doctors are great, but I
Speaker 1: like going somewhere where if I'm there for forty minutes
Speaker 1: or an hour and twenty minutes, he doesn't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no hurry, yes, right, he's got like there's just
Speaker 1: no fucking hurry, and he's you know, and he clearly
Speaker 1: he charges, but what he charges as fuck all. Firstly,
Speaker 1: he's got a PhD from Melbourne UNI. Secondly, he's an
Speaker 1: actual doctor of Chinese Medicine CHAT trained in China, so
Speaker 1: he's yeah, his knowledge is broad, but he just has
Speaker 1: this energy. I'm like, dude, I could just come and
Speaker 1: fucking sit next to you for the morning. I think
Speaker 1: I'd be better. Do you know what I'm saying? You
Speaker 1: know when you know and it's not like, ah, of
Speaker 1: course he's calm and all of that, but some people,
Speaker 1: I think for me anyways, some people are therapeutic just
Speaker 1: to be around them or calming, and some.
Speaker 2: People are the opposite.
Speaker 1: So I think proximity to people and how those people
Speaker 1: affect you definitely plays a role in the mental and
Speaker 1: emotional and physical health.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And I'm sure, I mean, I was going to
Speaker 3: drag this one out, but you said something in the
Speaker 3: last three years has been done for seventy years. I
Speaker 3: think we've spoken about it before. The heart rate or
Speaker 3: the Heart Math Institute work where they've looked at the
Speaker 3: electromagnetic's coming off your heart and how that actually creates
Speaker 3: a resonance and an impact on the other parts around you.
Speaker 3: All of those types of things. There's a direct translation
Speaker 3: for that. And if someone's holding a very very very
Speaker 3: strong state of gratitude and essentially matching that of the
Speaker 3: Earth's magnetic rhythm, it's so easy to feel at ease
Speaker 3: around them because it's just like comforted by Mother Earth. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's awesome.
Speaker 2: I dig him anyway, I'm saying him tomorrow shout out
Speaker 2: to doctor Paul.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure his actual name is that, but that's
Speaker 1: what he goes by, so bless his little sucks.
Speaker 3: I wanted to I've got one more thing to add.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Well I've got still on the same topic. But do
Speaker 1: you do you do you bro?
Speaker 3: Now you go, No, let's go the same topic.
Speaker 2: Well, don't forget that, don't forget that.
Speaker 3: Whatever, it's the ton I just wanted the magnetics. That's
Speaker 3: what will come back to.
Speaker 2: Oh well, fuck, it could even be what I'm going
Speaker 2: to bring up.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2: It's not full moon?
Speaker 3: Is it seventeenth? Is full moon?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: No, I was just going to say, you're going to
Speaker 1: talk about like I remember, like so many times I've
Speaker 1: had experiences where people that I know, clients or friends
Speaker 1: or whatever, respectfully kind of lost their shit. You know,
Speaker 1: there's just been something going on and the reaction seems
Speaker 1: completely kind of out of whack with the events.
Speaker 2: And you know, we're talking.
Speaker 1: About how your environment or the things around you affect you.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on or insight into or experience with people
Speaker 1: responding to full moons.
Speaker 3: I hang out with a crew that is very pro
Speaker 3: all of that, and then you listen to anybody else
Speaker 3: talk about it, and it's it's it's considered all who
Speaker 3: is So I guess I know people that use the
Speaker 3: full moon ceremonially to release a whole lot of things
Speaker 3: and to do that, And you know, do I have
Speaker 3: really good tangible evidence to say this unequivocally exists? No?
Speaker 3: Does it have any negative impact to believe it absolute? Not?
Speaker 3: If you feel like today I can actually release a
Speaker 3: whole lot of baggage that I wouldn't have been able
Speaker 3: to other days, that's a great belief to have. So yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I don't have anything super tangible. However, you know, there
Speaker 3: is a very strong electromagnetic force that's coming from the Moon,
Speaker 3: and we know that the soul of flares have a
Speaker 3: significant impact on our experience on Earth as well. So
Speaker 3: it's a very very interesting topic, and I'm not the
Speaker 3: person to speak to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to share one little anecdote, which everybody,
Speaker 1: this is an anecdote, this is a story, This is
Speaker 1: not science.
Speaker 2: So I did a gig a few years ago for.
Speaker 1: A a special needs school, so kids with you know,
Speaker 1: mental and physical disabilities, but most of the kids were
Speaker 1: intellectually impaired.
Speaker 2: To some level. And I was doing.
Speaker 1: An all day gig with the staff before the term started.
Speaker 1: And I got there early and I met the principal,
Speaker 1: who's love and she just give me a tour, and
Speaker 1: I said, what are the kids like? You know, tell
Speaker 1: me about the kids, and she was kind of describing,
Speaker 1: you know, their challenges and where we're at. And I like,
Speaker 1: and are they like they is like, is it real
Speaker 1: hard or are they you know?
Speaker 2: Is it I'm sure you love them all, but is
Speaker 2: it easy? Is it hard?
Speaker 1: She goes, it's mostly pretty good, you know, It's like
Speaker 1: you know, day to day there's stuff, but mostly it's
Speaker 1: good except for full moons, of course, Like this is
Speaker 1: literally what And I go, oh, oh, go on, tell
Speaker 1: me more, of course, yes, of course, And she's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I can't say exactly what she said, but she wasn't disparaging,
Speaker 1: but she you know, she intimated that old things go
Speaker 1: things go awry for about twenty four hours, like twenty
Speaker 1: four thirty six hours, and I go, hang on, hang
Speaker 1: on really like, oh, she goes absolutely like the kids,
Speaker 1: not all the kids, but a lot of the kids
Speaker 1: really change and their behavior changes and their state changes.
Speaker 2: And I go, do the other teachers think that she goes?
Speaker 3: They know that?
Speaker 2: Like she was talking to me like, how do you
Speaker 2: not know this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, oh, that is so interesting.
Speaker 1: So because that was such a profound thing for my
Speaker 1: head to hear, I didn't forget it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know tell us your.
Speaker 1: Last Well, I think you're going to talk to us
Speaker 1: about another example or story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is it's speaking to it's sort of
Speaker 3: an extension of everything that we're talking about, so like
Speaker 3: humidity and climate and where you live and all of
Speaker 3: the various environmental elements they're essentially changing the well, it's
Speaker 3: different frequency inputs into your body that change its state.
Speaker 3: And so our chief medical officer again, and I'll just
Speaker 3: share some stuff that's coming out because he's doing some
Speaker 3: stuff with the Canadian government with autism, and what he's
Speaker 3: finding is that autistic kids have a lack of delta.
Speaker 3: And he's seen in the other literature published that that's
Speaker 3: not the case, that they've got too much delta. But
Speaker 3: then when he's been doing this with his very objective measurements,
Speaker 3: he's been seeing that they have a lack of delta.
Speaker 3: Delta is a wavelength that happens in deep sleep, so
Speaker 3: you've got beta, alpha, theeder delta, So delta is deep
Speaker 3: wave sleep. THEAA is sort of embodied movement when you're
Speaker 3: just dancing and not thinking about it. Would be a
Speaker 3: way to think about it just before you go to
Speaker 3: sleep as well. Alpha is gratitude and peace and meditation.
Speaker 3: Beata wave is thinking and productivity, and then gamma is
Speaker 3: insight and inspiration and that comes in short, fast bursts
Speaker 3: of gamma. So delta is the deep one. Delta is
Speaker 3: what you need for brain recovery, and he noticed that
Speaker 3: they have a lack of delta, so he started putting
Speaker 3: in He's been working with some of the leading quantum
Speaker 3: physicists and they've put together an AI and biofeedback that
Speaker 3: puts specific electromagnetics into a mat that people lie on.
Speaker 3: It's not his product. He's just been designing some of
Speaker 3: the frequency stuff around it. He has taken kids with
Speaker 3: autism from nonverbal individual words only and not walking to
Speaker 3: stringing entire sentences together and singing while walking eight weeks later,
Speaker 3: and it's literally lying on their back restoring. They're putting
Speaker 3: it into a very low hurtz of electromagnetic gradients, sort
Speaker 3: of zero point five to four, which is the range
Speaker 3: for delta, and then bluxeing with a bit of biofeedback
Speaker 3: that comes from the mat as well. All they're doing
Speaker 3: is changing the electromagnetic gradient that's going through this mat.
Speaker 3: They start seeing more delta, greater brain recovery because their
Speaker 3: sleep is actually more effectual now. And this he's seen
Speaker 3: infants being brought back from death in Africa. Normally they
Speaker 3: just leave them to die. He put it on the mat,
Speaker 3: it was alive the next morning. He's been regrowing cardiac
Speaker 3: tissue like He's just been doing the most insane things
Speaker 3: with very directed electromagnetic inputs. So it's it's highly specific,
Speaker 3: but it just speaks to the power of our entire environment,
Speaker 3: like the sun is electromagnetic. The moon is electromagnetic, all
Speaker 3: our everybody around you is electromagnetic. Your WiFi is electromagnet.
Speaker 3: All of these things are influencing us in different ways,
Speaker 3: and they can. It's the utility like this is the
Speaker 3: future of medicine is essentially operating with this quantum space.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1: Why did you have to wheel that out at the end.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would have been a good starting point.
Speaker 3: Maybe you can put it so it looks like it's
Speaker 3: from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is. That is bloody incredible. Ask that
Speaker 2: guy if he wants to have.
Speaker 1: A chat one day, I will I can, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: that'd be probably not smart enough to interview him, So
Speaker 1: maybe you need to interview him with me.
Speaker 3: We've got I could probably send you some of his stuff.
Speaker 3: It's he's got. We've probably done maybe one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty hours. It's part of our professional development. And he
Speaker 3: will speak on any topic and he will just track
Speaker 3: from what happened three thousand years ago, and then what
Speaker 3: happened when Pythagoras came up with these principles, and then
Speaker 3: what was this guy in the eighteen hundreds doing, and oh,
Speaker 3: that's now contributed to Oh we do this basic little
Speaker 3: thing in modern medicine. But yeah, he's just he's just brilliant.
Speaker 3: He knows everything about everything.
Speaker 2: How old is this guy, he's fifty.
Speaker 3: Man photo photographic memory, remembers every blood of every patient
Speaker 3: that he's had, just reads a paper ingests it and
Speaker 3: it's just there and he just brings it back on demand.
Speaker 3: Like he's just he is an absolute freak.
Speaker 2: Is he a medical doctor or a PhD?
Speaker 3: He is medical and then trained in Chinese medicine, and
Speaker 3: then he's just he essentially just goes around to a
Speaker 3: number of different things, Like there's a number of large
Speaker 3: university hospitals in Italy where he lives, and he just
Speaker 3: goes around and does like takes all the cases that
Speaker 3: other people can't do. And then he'll and then he
Speaker 3: goes off just lecturing and he's coding, coding his brain.
Speaker 1: That guy should be world renowned. I mean it probably is.
Speaker 1: He probably is in a space, but he should be.
Speaker 1: I mean, he sounds like two hundred years from now
Speaker 1: people are going to be talking about that dude.
Speaker 3: That's That's one of the things that motivates me is
Speaker 3: to get his brain out there and that's he's not
Speaker 3: scalable without tech. And this is like our whole job
Speaker 3: has been to essentially couch couch this knowledge base, but
Speaker 3: do it in a systematic way. It's evidence based that
Speaker 3: can be accessed by anyone. That's essentially our whole organization's purpose. Wow,
Speaker 3: one would.
Speaker 2: Mate.
Speaker 1: It's always great to chat to you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Tell people where.
Speaker 2: They can find you and learn a little bit about
Speaker 2: your work.
Speaker 1: And your offerings so they can hit you up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, thank you. Probably the best thing to do
Speaker 3: is just google Shay group, Shae group, and then doctor
Speaker 3: cam McDonald just put that in Google. And then for
Speaker 3: health professionals, we've got courses using the leading medical AI
Speaker 3: tech that sort of incorporates everything that we've been talking
Speaker 3: about today and a whole lot more. And then corporate
Speaker 3: well being programs. We support kids in schools we learned
Speaker 3: three sixty. We support gyms with the same insights as well,
Speaker 3: so getting better outcomes for your members. And then just
Speaker 3: a general user app that anyone can pick up and
Speaker 3: get the best in lifestyle medicine and what's best for them.
Speaker 3: So all of the stuff that we spoke about today
Speaker 3: is actually written into the app maybe except for that
Speaker 3: electromagnete stuff right at the end, But all the environmental
Speaker 3: stuff is right there for you, so just go there
Speaker 3: and get stuck in. We've got a whole ecosystem and
Speaker 3: we're trying to eliminate disease and pain by twenty fifty.
Speaker 3: That's our goal.
Speaker 2: That's good. That's a good goal. That's a good goal.
Speaker 1: Hey mate, I will say goodbye our fair but for now,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to play again.
Speaker 3: Thanks as appreciate it.