1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: I get a team. Craig Anthony Harper is my name. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The You Project is the show. Doctor Cam McDonald is 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: the guest. He's a gun, he's a friend. He's an academic, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: he's a business owner. He's an inspirer of humans and 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: teacher for young, hungry and old hungry minds. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: There you go. How's that made? 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: Is that? All? Right? 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Did I do like you told me? Make it good? 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 3: So? 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: I did my best? 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: That's all I can ever ask of you. Hups? And 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: that's It's a younger version of me would have just 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: been putting a lot of judgment around what your best is, 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: you know, But now I just appreciate everyone's doing it. 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: You know, they're doing everyone's at all times. 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: That is so true. That is so true. 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: I just had a meeting with a dude that I'm coaching, 18 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: and I can't tell you anything other than a dude 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: and coaching. But I can tell you, well, I guess 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: I can tell you a few things without giving anything 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: away that I shouldn't. But very very high up in 22 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: a very big organization, and we were talking about problem solving, communication, leadership, 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: conflict resolution, all the stuff, and we were just talking 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: about which ties into my PhD, but you get it, 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: just this idea of not necessarily agreeing with people, but 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: understanding people and realizing in the moment that you and 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: I are in the same chat but not the same experience. 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: And then so, how do I have this conversation with 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: you knowing that you're not thinking or seeing or feeling 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: or experiencing what I am, while still building connection and rapport, 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: knowing that I might think A and you might think 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: B be and that's not a problem. So this whole 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: other awareness of trying to really like, genuinely understand how 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: other people experience things, see the world, see the situation, 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: navigate problems, interpret data or experiences so that you can 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: build real trust, connection, rapport, not based on the fact 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: that you like them necessarily, but just that you understand them. 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: It's a big It's a thing that people don't really 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: think about and accept them. 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 3: And I think that's been the It's the star that 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: we've spoken about on a different episode, But the really 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: navigating my subconscious in a proper way really really help 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: with that process. You just realize how many of your 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: reactions are due to a bit of fear and the 45 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: way that people see things like even though, I was 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: just having a chat with my co parent about a 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: particular person that she was having an event to me about, 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: which is all good, it's part of the game, yes, yes, 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: And what was going through my mind is this person 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: is absolutely trying the best that she possibly can, but 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: her best is to be great and is to be 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: a little bit judgmental, and is to put it because 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 3: she is just scrambling to feel a sense of safety 54 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: and belonging. And the way that it projects with our 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: very masked minds and expressions that we have is to 56 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: come across quite uncaring when it's there's so much care happening, 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: it's just it's a panic. It's so fascinating to you 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: can only really get that if you're constantly investigating into 59 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: your own space. That's saying why am I responding that way? 60 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Exactly? 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And knowing that from the outside looking in, you 62 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: might be looking at something where their response or their 63 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: reaction or their state is completely inconsistent with what's actually 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: happening from your perspective, right, But then knowing that I 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: might look at that and go as objective as I 66 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: can be. To me, this seems like a one out 67 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: of ten problem, but for them, it's an eleven and 68 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: their literal experiences this is an eleven. 69 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: So and they have no idea. 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: That that's a self imposed idea and belief which is 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: now manifesting in a personal reality. And then so for 72 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: the you know, the clunky bloke or girl or whatever lady, 73 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: just from the outside you're like, well, she's just carrying 74 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: on or he's just carrying on about fucking nothing, But 75 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: to them it's everything. So it's not about oh, I 76 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: need to think like you or agree with you, or 77 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: endorse you. I just need to know that what you're 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: thinking and experiencing for you is one hundred percent correct 79 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: as an experience, you know, not perhaps factually or objectively. 80 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: But you know, it's like I always say, the. 81 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: Dumbest advice that gets given every fucking day, billion times 82 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: is telling worried people not to worry. 83 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: I don't worry. I'm like you most well. 84 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: Tell you know, a tall person not to be tall. 85 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: That's how much that's going to help, you know. 86 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: And it's amazing. It's so hard, and particularly if you've 87 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: got a fixing mindset, and there's a good chunk of 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 3: us that have the I need to fix this problem 89 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: in front of me mindset. It is just so amazing 90 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: to take that back step, say, Jesus must be tough 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: for you. I can totally understand what's going on and 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: then silence and then just watch them self reflect. It's 93 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: because you can't get to that self reflection if you 94 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: go into contest with somebody's feelings. And I've taken this 95 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: a step further as well, my son. My boys are 96 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: eleven and five, and I am properly conditioning them with 97 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: my language as far as this stuff goes. Because my son, 98 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: he's a little connected. He's very socially sensitive, and he's 99 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: a bit nervous at times and gets like his emotions 100 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: get really big, which is all normal for him. That's mate. 101 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: Get you get to choose how you use these feelings. 102 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: You get you are in charge of your feelings. Don't 103 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: blame other people because as soon as you blame them, 104 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: it's now they've got all the power and you're not 105 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: in control of yourself anymore. I'm just every time we're 106 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: going through an emotional thing, it's just like you're in 107 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: charge of your feelings. You get to choose what you feel, 108 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: and da da da da da da da. I'm just 109 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: praying to God that it just conditions them. By the 110 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: time he's twenty, it'll just be stuck in his head. 111 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 3: I'm in charge of my feelings. Yeah, So it doesn't 112 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: work so well for adults to do it that way though. 113 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: I Mean my perspective on that would be yes with 114 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: an asterisk, because there are times a lot of times 115 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: where we're not like our feelings hijack our mind. You know, 116 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: we're not choosing to be sad or happy? 117 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: You know? 118 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: So am I in control or am I controlled? Because 119 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: I think it depends on the situation and the person. Like, 120 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: there are definitely times where I think I'm reasonably evolved 121 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: in this kind of psychology, kind of emotion, kind of 122 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: self awareness, and I would say there are oftentimes where 123 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm not in charge of my feelings. 124 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough. What I will say then, is the 125 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: angle that I'm going for is for him to just 126 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: own his reaction. 127 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 2: Right. 128 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: If I'm feeling this way, it's coming from within me. 129 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: Someone may have done something then I get to react, 130 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: but it's my reaction as opposed to their making me right. 131 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: That's probably a better clarification, you're. 132 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, because I think if I feel resentful of 133 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: old mate, and it's fucking real, that feeling real. I 134 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: can't just go no, I don't I'm in control. 135 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: Agreed, agreed completely yes, yeah yeah yeah. 136 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: So And is it like as a parent raising two 137 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: different kids with different personalities at different ages? Is it 138 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: like has it been a shock to you because these 139 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: are your only kids so before that no experience raising kids? 140 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: Of course that how differently. 141 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: You need to you know, just like with pH three 142 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: sixty with all the different types. But is it how 143 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: differently you need to say the same message or solve 144 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: the same problem or address the same issue. 145 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: It is. It's interesting because I've got two really different ages. Right, 146 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: eleven and five is vast Oh yeah, eleven eleven you 147 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: can actually get a good conscious conversation going, right five 148 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: is I just I'm just thinking about zero to seven? 149 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: What's the messaging that he's got in his head? And 150 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: he's a little the five year old's a little guardian, 151 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: so just expl people have done what sorry excuse me, sorry. 152 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: Guardians have got a bigger, stronger body. They're normally protective 153 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: of people and their things and they're the biggest stronger body. 154 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: It it it's built to look after people essentially, and 155 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: but then he's got a big competitive streak in him 156 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: as well. But so one of the things, because you know, 157 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: his eleven year old brother from time to time will say, oh, 158 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: you're fat, and I come down on him like a 159 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: ton of bricks about the language and all of that 160 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. And so what what I can start 161 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: seeing now though, because the big thing we talk about 162 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: guardians think about a Samoan body. Yeah, they're strong, that's 163 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: that's like they are strong for everyone, strong for themselves, 164 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: strong for the community. So any time any opportunity that like, geez, 165 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: look how strong your legs are. Gees, look how strong 166 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: your body is. Geez, your body is so strong. I 167 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: am just hammering that, hammering that home. Whenever he thinks 168 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: about his bodies. I know it's strong because I just know, 169 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: you know, I've met too many people that have just 170 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 3: had issues with their body their whole life. 171 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: Because you're talking you're talking to one, you're literally talking 172 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: to a lifelong fat kid. Well for the length of 173 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: my childhood anyway. Yeah, and the eleven year old like 174 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: drastically obviously age plays a big role. 175 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: But yes, it's a big one. On it's a big one. 176 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: On him being heard, and I'm seeing this in my 177 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 3: twelve year old niece as well, just being heard, their 178 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: feelings being real, and so it's it's it's all my 179 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: job to not react and jump in and assume. I've 180 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: always got to investigate first. And if I investigate first 181 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: and ask good questions, it all calms down and it's fine. 182 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: But it's interesting, I think, just maybe due to it 183 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: being a split home and you know, we didn't have 184 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: the most stable of situations early on in the piece. Yes, 185 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: there's a baseline level of stress in him, and he 186 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: goes into defense very very quickly. So it's just it's 187 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: just just unraveling that piece by piece, just through more 188 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: and more better interactions. But man, it's a job. It 189 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: is a job when you are highly sensitive to tone. 190 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: My brain is very sensitive to tonality. As soon as 191 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: he goes into defense, you just want to you want 192 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: to stop everything, just so it's the perfect little testing 193 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: ground for me to really know what's going on. 194 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: I guess for you, it's like this sounds quite. 195 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: But to me it sounds almost like it's in a 196 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: nice way, but an ongoing experiment. You know, in that 197 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: it's like you're trying to figure out what's the best 198 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: strategy or the best way to love them or communicate 199 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,359 Speaker 1: or connect or to make them feel validated or seen. 200 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Or safe or like. 201 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: And you're you're you, and each one of them are separately, 202 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: but then all of you collectively in this dynamic where 203 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out what's the best operating system 204 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: for me and this kid and this kid and then 205 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: both kids together, where you're trying to figure out you know, 206 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: their code. 207 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: Yes, one, it's a. It's a. It is an amazing experiment, 208 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: that is sure. Yeah, And it's one of those things 209 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: you've just got to because no, I mean, you know, 210 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: you have an inkling of what the right thing is, 211 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: and you know, you get exposed to lots of different 212 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: belief systems and all of that sort of stuff when 213 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: you're just trying to navigate all of this. Yeah, you've 214 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: just got to pick your lane with love and and 215 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: just hope that it's going to be the right thing. 216 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: It's and I think I've got some good principles in place, 217 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: but yeah, there's always the question mark of is this 218 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 3: the right thing? Am I? Am I dying on the 219 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: right hill? 220 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 221 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean the reason I named this show all 222 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: those years ago, the You Project was because I've always 223 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: felt like my biggest challenge is me, My biggest management 224 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: project is me. The thing that I need to kind 225 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: of be less lucy goosey, and a bit of lucy 226 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: Goosey is good, but also a bit of strategy and 227 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: awareness and methodology and accountability and. 228 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: Process, so that. 229 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: Not so that life is some big boring project, but 230 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: so that I don't end up at you know, speaking 231 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: on behalf of the audience, I don't end up at 232 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: forty five or fifty or fifty five or sixty in 233 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: a psychological or emotional or commercial or financial or physiological 234 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: state that I wouldn't have wanted to be. But because 235 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: I didn't live particularly strategically, I just got up and 236 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: like I was led by emotions and feelings. Emotions and 237 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: feelings are great, but we don't really want them necessarily 238 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: to run certain parts of our life. 239 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: You know that I was. 240 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: Talking with someone the other day, Kate Save, who's a 241 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: regular on here, but just about the idea of you know, 242 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: what do you want to be and how do you 243 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: want to be in five years? And then so what 244 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: do you need to do now to make that potentially 245 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: a likely outcome, you know, and just that. 246 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: To try to because obviously the big. 247 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: One is when it comes to our body, among other things, 248 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: but especially our body. Like I'm emotional about my body, 249 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: and I'm an excise physiologist and I've been doing this 250 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: for years and I get it, but i still am 251 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: not completely logical or scientific or objective about my own body. Like, 252 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: even knowing all the shit I know, still a big 253 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: baby sometimes do dumb shit. 254 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: I understand that, and I would I would back that up, 255 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: even as a dietitian and x fiz and you know, 256 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: just wanting to improve my like, I'll spend months kind 257 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: of you know, guess working it or not doing things 258 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: specific and all I'm going to do is tighten up 259 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: and actually do the things that I know are exactly 260 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: right that I would give advice to anybody else about 261 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: and it would behave the way that I would expect. 262 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: Do you ever. 263 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Do you ever I feel this? I probably shouldn't say 264 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: this publicly, but fuck it, everyone knows me. I'll be 265 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: vulnerable and pathetic and honest. But do you ever feel 266 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: I have a responsibility to look or function or be 267 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: or present a certain way because that if I didn't, 268 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: that would be inconsistent with my brand and what I 269 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: do like. 270 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: I feel like that. 271 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to be in shape anyway, and 272 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: I think I would, but I think nobody wants me 273 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: on listening to all of my ship and reading my 274 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: shit to get up at an event and not look 275 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: like what I talk about. I don't mean being Superman 276 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: or ripped and sliced, but just I don't want to. 277 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to get. 278 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: Up and lookhealthy so that that my ego keeps me 279 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: in check, that my ego keeps me. 280 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: Doing stuff as well as other things. 281 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: You ever, that's the great use of an ego. The Yeah, 282 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: I definitely feel that, and I would say that I 283 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: would probably I'm less, less associated with my body, more 284 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: associated with my personality and how I project myself right 285 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: when I and this is one of the harsh realities 286 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: of maybe meeting somebody and then seeing doctor camp on 287 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: a stage or a presentation or whatever it might be, 288 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: and then realizing I am a total introvert and I 289 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: come out of my shell when I've got a really 290 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: big passionate message or if there's something social going on, 291 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: and I would literally sit at home by myself and 292 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: just do work for ten twelve hours a day and 293 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: not talk to anybody quite happily, and that be okay, 294 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: you know, whereas there and what I guess what gets seen, 295 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: So that's you know, and I've got a big community 296 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: of health professionals. And the CAM personality is sort of 297 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: the bit that I hold, and for the most part 298 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: it's genuinely me. But I agree, it's like me being 299 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: up and up and out with my energy and always 300 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: having enough and being there for people and being able 301 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: to engage in a present way. That's probably more I 302 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: assess that more within myself than my body, for example. 303 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: But I would have to say secondarily or tertiary is 304 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to be out of shape because I'm 305 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: talking about precision health and yeah matters. 306 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 307 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: It's so funny how sometimes I do something and I go, yeah, 308 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm still a fat four ten year old just trying 309 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: to not be that, you know, all right, So I 310 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: want to park that because I actually did intend to 311 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: talk to you about something else today, your honor, So 312 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: if we could go there, that would be good. 313 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: I want to ask you. So when we talk generally, 314 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: I know there's. 315 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: Much more than what I'm about to say, but in 316 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: broad brushstrokes, you know, in health wellness, in the media, 317 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: social media, like we're always talking about food and exercise 318 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: and sleep and stress, and you know a bit around 319 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: sociology and who you spend time with and the benefit 320 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: of healthy relationships and you know, all of these variables 321 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: that are kind of we know about in terms of 322 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: optimizing ourselves physically, mentally, and emotionally. Like whatever emphasis you want, 323 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: is there anything it's emergent, anything that's newish that's getting 324 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: more attention over the let's say, the last three years. 325 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 2: Where we now know, oh we now know, we're. 326 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Quite certain about or we're certain this has a bigger 327 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: influence than we thought that we didn't think, say five 328 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: years ago. Like I'll give you my quick one example, 329 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: like I'm always talking to people now about among other things, 330 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: but when I do corporate gigs and we talk about 331 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: all the big rocks, you know, not the little rocks, 332 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: but the big rocks. It used to be you know, food, exercise, mindset, 333 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: lifestyle and in that pyramid and at the bottom of 334 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: that now I have relationships because I just think that 335 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: the kind of relationships we have and all the stuff 336 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: that's interwoven with that feeling loved, valued, scene, appreciated, connected, 337 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: and all the psychological, emotional and biochemical stuff that's. 338 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: Into woven around that. You know, it's like it's massive. 339 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: So is there anything that. 340 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: We now kind of becoming aware of in this space 341 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: that you operate which is kind of optimal well being 342 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: for people? And I know it varies depending on their type. 343 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: That's got your eye or fascination that you want to 344 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: share with this stuff that is not spoken about so much, 345 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: or it might even be an extrapolation of something, because 346 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit like in this space we 347 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: keep wheeling out the same old chestnuts. 348 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: Not you and me, but just in general. 349 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, okay. So the first thing that I would 350 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: say to that is actually I go to a quote 351 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: from my chief medical officer, and he said, there is 352 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: literally nothing new in medicine in the last two thousand years, 353 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 3: Like they were doing brain surgery in ancient Egypt. Like 354 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: he's seen the texts and watched tumors being removed from 355 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: children's heads on the documented in various texts, whatever it 356 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: might be, even to the point of certain compounds being 357 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: used to have almost like a chemotherapeutic effect, way way 358 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: back back, ages ago. So the first thought that came 359 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: to my mind was that everything that I know, everything 360 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: that I really focus on, they are these deep threads 361 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: of knowledge that we've had in one way or another forever. 362 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: The big thing that really I mean, the pops up 363 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: that I would say that we talk about less, but 364 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: it is so profoundly powerful that we just really don't 365 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: even put any attention on it. And that is the 366 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: impact of our physical environment, our exposoonics, what our environment 367 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: and how we're exposed. And I guess to put some 368 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: trends into that, you can look at cold immersion and 369 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: saunas and things like that. But I'm speaking more even 370 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: to the movement of irons ionization electromagnetic radiation that happens 371 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 3: with changes in weather or and various things like that. 372 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: And why I say that one not because it's new, 373 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: because there's not much that's new, but because we're not 374 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 3: talking about it much, and because it's highly relatable, highly relatable. 375 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 3: We don't realize until you actually articulate it just how 376 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: obvious it is. And some examples of that. Most talks 377 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: that I'm doing about stress, what I do is I 378 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: talk through how the whole environment impacts our capacity to 379 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: deal with stress. And so one of the examples is 380 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: your physical environment. Who hates air conditioning? Every single person 381 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: puts their hand up for that, or no, every single room, 382 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: there'll be a group of people that puts their hand up, 383 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: and then there'll be a group of people that absolutely 384 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 3: love air conditioning. And this is a really really simple example. 385 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: But you can talk to the people that are in 386 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: very poor health air air conditioning or they don't enjoy it, 387 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: and you say, tell me about your mood when you're cold, 388 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 3: and they say, I'm grumpy, short, I'm impatient, And I'd say, man, 389 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: does everyone know when I asked their name on June's 390 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: June down the front here? Has anyone ever given Dune 391 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt just thinking it might be 392 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: a little bit too cold in the room as to 393 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: why you're not having the best conversation with her. It's 394 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: never part of our thought process and that our physical 395 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: environment is having. But we know it that, oh jeez, 396 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: I hate it when it's cold. Whereas there's other people 397 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 3: that get incredibly hot and bothered if their conditioning isn't 398 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: on nineteen degrees and blowing flat out in their face. 399 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: Then they melt and die, and there's a really interesting 400 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: dynamic with that with humidity, dryness, ionization. But then from 401 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: some of our work as well, and this is something 402 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: that as more people sort of search for the optimal 403 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: place to live and they try and create their little retreats. 404 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: We've had a few people that have gone to the 405 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: mountains to do this Colorado, particularly two of them in fact, 406 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: and all of these symptoms have started playing out, weight gain, 407 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: headaches when they've gone up the mountain, and then we've 408 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: gone through the process of understanding what their body is 409 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: about and just due to the way that they dispose 410 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 3: of oxygen and how they deal with higher altitude and 411 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 3: the negative ionization because some people can't tolerate lots of 412 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 3: negative ionization. Negative ions come from forested areas, waterfalls, places 413 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: with plants and water essentially, and so you're going to 414 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: have lots of negative ionization there, and you have lots 415 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: of it in the mountains, you have less of it 416 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: in the desert. You have more positive ionization in the desert. 417 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: As the wind comes across the desert, it creates positive ionization, 418 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: and some populations do really well with that so these 419 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: two people were both desert like bodies living in the mountains, 420 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: and or ten years of symptoms, could not figure it out, 421 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: gone to every earnosed throat specialists, every natural path fact puncturist, 422 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: integrative doctor. Ten years. Literally it said in the profile, 423 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: you can't live above this altitude. You've got to move 424 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: down the mountain. Move down the mountain. Two weeks resolution 425 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: of symptoms. Nothing to do with her diet, nothing to 426 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: do with anything else other than your body doesn't like 427 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: this altitude. And so of course you've got symptoms. And 428 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: then we've got another one of our very best coaches 429 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: that works with us. She lives in the mountains in Colorado. 430 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: She knows her body doesn't tolerate it, and so she's 431 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 3: essentially changed her house so that she can tolerate living 432 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: at altitude a little bit more, but just knows that 433 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: at certain times of the year she's not going to 434 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 3: be feeling great. It's really really fascinating. And then I 435 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: don't know if you want to interject there, but I've 436 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 3: got a few other stories I can share. 437 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: No, no, I do, but I won't because that is 438 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: fucking fascinating. 439 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: Keep going, amazing, amazing, so, and then there's this in Europe, 440 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: there's this They have this wind called the fiend fo Hn. 441 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: I believe it's spelled and wow. 442 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: There we'd test after the show kids. 443 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: So at a particular time of year, this wind, this 444 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: alpine wind, comes down off the mountain and it is 445 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: known to have more psychotic events, more car crashes, more 446 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: psychological dramas, more physical symptoms at this particular time of 447 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: year when the ionization changes in the air. And I 448 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: think that's absolutely fascinating, not just that, but I don't 449 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: And you'll notice this is one of the things. Everyone 450 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: gets a bit stir crazy when it's windy, you know, 451 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 3: when you get that really weird windy change. Interestingly, about that, like, 452 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 3: it definitely changes your physiology. It heightens your stress levels 453 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: a little bit, and you'll express stress in different ways. 454 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: For example, waking up with a sore neck is very 455 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: very common when there's that windy change, if you've got 456 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: a particular predisposition for a tight neck. Interestingly, the Chinese 457 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: spoke about this, and they call it having wind. Literally, 458 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: they described it as when the wind changes, or when 459 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: there's a change in the airflow and there's an ionization change, 460 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: your body responds to that as well because it's being 461 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 3: held in a balance. And this is where we can 462 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 3: get into the quantum space as well as that we 463 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: are all just a whole pile of electromagnetic charge that 464 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 3: holds itself together through whatever people think is the governing 465 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: frequency of our body, whatever that might be. And so 466 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: when ions come through, it actually changes that field and 467 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 3: changes how you feel as a result of that, and 468 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 3: the you know, what do we do? We go to 469 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: the physio and we try and get it sort of, 470 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: but it's got nothing to do with that. It's got 471 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 3: everything to do with the effect of this wind on 472 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 3: a nervous system. And more fascinatingly than that is that 473 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: you think you close the doors and you feel better, 474 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: but the ions travel through the walls like they don't. 475 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 3: They don't stop just because you shut the doors. And 476 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 3: so if it's really windy outside, you'll feel it. When 477 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 3: it's raining outside, there's a massive charge difference in the 478 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: ionization and you feel it. You can feel it when 479 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 3: it's going to be stormy even though you're inside. So 480 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: I find this stuff really fat, and I'll go a 481 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: couple more and then we can start changing about it. Mate. 482 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: You trust me, this is great. Just go. 483 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: We have one lady with rheumatoid arthritis. Now, rhumatoid arthritis 484 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: is an accumulation, it's an autoimine condition. You accumulate a 485 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: lot of fluid. It's pain in your joints. It's an interesting, 486 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: interesting thing, and it comes along with inflammation and a 487 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 3: few other things. So if you look at this from 488 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: an Eastern medicine perspective, it is an excess of humidity. 489 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: That's what it is. You're accumulating too much fluid. And 490 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: so one of the treatments. This is our chief medical office. 491 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: He's just a weapon. He's just he's just such a 492 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: he's he's our modern day Hippocrates. And I say that 493 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: without reservation, knowing how big a statement that is. He 494 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: sent this lady, she lived in a humid, cool, humid 495 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: environment in Europe. Sent he sent her to holiday in 496 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: a dry, warm place, which is the opposite of humidity. 497 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: And what happened. And then he applied her with garlic, 498 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 3: which is also very drying from a Chinese medicine perspective 499 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: as well. Yes, yes, complete resolution of symptoms on holidays 500 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: for two weeks. She then goes back home and the 501 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: symptoms come back, and this is it becomes a really 502 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: interesting conversation around well where should I live, because yes, 503 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: we spend time in an environment where we just cannot 504 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: get ahead because we are constantly facing against another. One 505 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: is some individuals we call them diplomats, diplomatic like an 506 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: ian thorpe type of structure. They're big, tall, but they're bendy, 507 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: you know, and they're not hype lean, but they're like 508 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: glamoizons and tall lumberjacks, is a simple way of describing them. 509 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: And they require a little bit of humidity. They need 510 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: a little bit cool humidity because they overheat and when 511 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: they go out out west in Australia, which is it's 512 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: very dry out to the west of the East Coast, 513 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: and that dryness, their body overcompensates and gets really congested 514 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 3: like their mucos or layer doesn't deal with it well. 515 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: They get headaches, they get sinus issues consistently. And some 516 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 3: people are living in the bush, just hating life, trying 517 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: to take clarentine, trying to do all the things. But 518 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 3: it's literally they need a humidifier in their house because 519 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: their body has a particular balance that other bodies be 520 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: totally fine. With that dry, arid kind of feeling. And 521 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: if you go to Dubai, you'll see a bucketload of 522 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 3: people that are designed for the desert. They're all sure muscular, 523 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: sinewy bodies. They look dry, and they don't do well overhydrating. 524 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: In fact, there's some bodies for this reason that they 525 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: want a drier environment and if they overhydrate, it just 526 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: rips the electrolytes out of them and it's not so good. 527 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: Whereas another person they should just be doing nothing but 528 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: drinking water all day because of the way they regulate fluid. 529 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: So the the it brings up such an interesting conversation 530 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: and to the point where in practical reality, I'll notice 531 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: I've got probably a three or four degree range where 532 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: I'm really comfortable and I can be in flow. I'll 533 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: just find some afternoons I'm like, whins work so hard, 534 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 3: I'll turn the AC on just for a few moments, 535 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: all of my energy comes back. 536 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 537 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: And similarly, if I'm too cold, I'll be like, oh, 538 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: but as soon as I get a bit warm, I'm 539 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: back in flow. And this is but what we need 540 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: to be aware of is how do I feel when 541 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: it's humid? How do I feel when it's dry. How 542 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: do I feel when it's windy? How do I feel 543 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: where and when the ac is blowing on me directly? Like, really, 544 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: my best version of my environment is airkon on door open, 545 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: which is the worst thing in the world for the environment. However, 546 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: I need a little bit of humidity, but I need 547 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: it to be cooler, so I don't need it. I 548 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: don't like it to be totally dry. So anyway, so 549 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: it's there, and then we start getting into cold immersion 550 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: and saunas and various things like that which are having 551 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: a very profound physiological strain on us. But what's so 552 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: interesting is the place that we're living right now. It's 553 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: this constant background stress that can be driving conditions that 554 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 3: we're just trying to be treatd for twenty years, but 555 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: we've never looked actually how the physical environment and climate 556 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: is influencing us and the current of impact that that has. 557 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: Mate that. 558 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: Seriously, it's about the best fifteen minutes we've ever got 559 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: from you. Whatever you drink in the air, keep drinking that. No, men, 560 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: you're always good. You're amazing to keep going on that. 561 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: But I want to mention just a couple of things. 562 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: So it's so funny when I think about what impacts 563 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: my mood. I'm just talking specifically to me my mood 564 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: and my cognitive function, how well I can articulate, think, 565 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, express right, do that stuff? Read a paper, 566 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: you know how exciting they are actually remember what's in 567 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: the paper, And just how I feel. I need to 568 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: be in an environment that i'm really or I operate 569 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: better obviously as most people do, in an environment that's 570 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: very comfortable for me. And so that is and I've 571 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: spoken about this many times before, so apologies listeners, but 572 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: I just created an office that I love being in 573 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: my upstairs bit of my house. 574 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: I just look out and I've just got. 575 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: A sea of trees. I can't see any of suburbia. 576 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I can only see trees. I have this super cushy carpet. 577 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: I never wear shoes unless I have to put on 578 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: shoes because I'm going to go to a place. So 579 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: right now I'm sitting in bare feet. Every time we podcast, 580 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: I don't even wear shoes in the house. I take 581 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: them off at the door and I never put them on. 582 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: Yeah sure and me both, bro. So you know it's 583 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: like we just showed our bare feet to each other, 584 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: like to old dick heads. 585 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: But anyway, forgive us. 586 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, if I'm in this environment and I've got 587 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: ac above my head and sometimes I turn that on 588 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: for five minutes and I feel ten cents smarter five 589 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: minutes later, I'm a bit like you. Yeah, it's just 590 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: knowing how your body works in a particular environment, and. 591 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: Like, what is the environment that you need. 592 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: To construct for you to be somewhere close to optimal? 593 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: And that could be Like I coached a lady. I 594 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: don't coach anymore. But she hated shouldn't hate work, She 595 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: just she hated sitting in basically large cubicle. 596 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't an office, it wasn't a tiny cubicle. 597 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: And apart from a few other things, we just figured 598 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: out that if she just surrounded herself with plants, which 599 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: she did, yeah, she was so much happier, so much happier, Yes, 600 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: you know, and so she had. I never went there, 601 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: but she showed me a far I don't know. She 602 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: must have had twenty plants in her office or her space, 603 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: like every bit that she could fill. And she almost 604 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: wanted me to tell her boss that she's not crazy 605 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: and that it was actually good for her productivity and 606 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: focus and energy, happiness, and yeah, just that and that 607 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: was the only change that relative to that issue that 608 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: we made. 609 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: And yeah, life got better just for that. 610 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: Yep. I've got mates that they've got a barren bedroom 611 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 3: at home and then they go to their girlfriend's place 612 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: and there's plants all through the bedroom and they sleep 613 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: an hour more deep sleep. They just get so much 614 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: more quality out of it. There's another example of a 615 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: CEO that I was coaching. He would literally carry his 616 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 3: potted plant from room to room to have it next 617 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: to him because he just realized how great it is 618 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: to have a little bit of foliage no matter where 619 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 3: he is. Yes, the Yeah, it's so fascinating the impact. 620 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: And what's interesting is that for some people it's plants, 621 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: and then for another person it is I just need 622 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: the place to be organized so that I know where 623 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 3: everything is. Other people need it, And so that's one 624 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: type of person. Another type person is I need it 625 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: to look visually amazing, but I'm going to get bored 626 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: of it in three weeks and I'm going to change it. Yeah, 627 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: And then you'll see people that are constantly rotating their 628 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: furniture and doing different things that they look and feel 629 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 3: all of the time. Then you'll have other individuals where 630 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 3: it does not matter what is going on around them, 631 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: as long as they've got a square of space for 632 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: their laptop and good Wi Fi and things work efficiently. 633 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: It's not even about what it looks like. It's that 634 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 3: it's functional. My space is is efficient, and my digital 635 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: space is efficient, then I'm fine. We had another individual 636 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 3: with really significant I think I've shared this before on 637 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 3: the party bit. I'll share it again because it's super relevant. 638 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: One individual, she was the highest depression an Diety score 639 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 3: I've ever seen ever on the DAS twenty one on 640 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: day one of our program with their company. All we 641 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: did because we realized that she's a total introvert, Like 642 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 3: we measured a total introvert, very sensitive to bright lights. 643 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: Some people are more light sensitive, so it actually is 644 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 3: overwhelming to have lights. Very sensitive to air conditioning and cold, 645 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: very sensitive to noise. Essentially what we call them a 646 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: sensor and their nervous system is just dialed up to 647 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: a thousand and they are constantly just analyzing what's going on. 648 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 3: If there's too much is too much, so what would happen? 649 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: She'd be sitting in this environment, all of these environmental factors, 650 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 3: bright lights, lots of noise, air conditioning coming at her. 651 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: She would get overwhelmed. She then wouldn't be able to 652 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 3: do her work properly. She would then start spiraling down 653 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 3: into negativity about I just can't get out of this hole. 654 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: Day two, we put her in a room by herself 655 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: because there was a spare office and no one was 656 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: using it. We said, look, she would really benefit from 657 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 3: going into the private room. You should probably put her 658 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 3: in there. She walks into the private room, controls the 659 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 3: temperature in there, dims the lights. Her scores went to 660 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 3: death twenty one Like she was probably like a seventeen 661 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: or eighteen points she had. She went down to a 662 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 3: zero by end of week one. And what it showed 663 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 3: is it had nothing to do with her mental function. 664 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: It had everything to do with how overwhelmed her system 665 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 3: was by all of the sensory input from the environment. 666 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: And it's wow, it's just yeah, it's so underrated. But again, 667 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 3: the roots go back to Eastern medicine five thousand years ago. 668 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 3: You know, this isn't new stuff, but it's it's got 669 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: a great application. 670 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: Now, that's amazing that desk gyal everyone past twenty one 671 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: looks at depression and anxiety. 672 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what that is. 673 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I've just acquired, come across 674 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: connected with, I don't know what the term is, a 675 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: Chinese doctor, and dude, I love him so much. Like 676 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: this is going to sound strange, but I'm just being honest. 677 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: I met him and one minute in I went, I 678 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: trust you, and I don't trust people. Quickly I'm like, 679 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: I trust you. And then I had to put all 680 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: my you know, clinical western eve fucking whatever, alleged academic, logical, 681 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: allegedly brain just park it for. 682 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 2: A moment, and then you know, I sit down. 683 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: He looks at me, He looks in my eyes, looks 684 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: at my tongue, takes my pulse, and then he proceeds 685 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: to tell me all this stuff about me, which was 686 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: just spot on right. And I saw him the other 687 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: day and I'm seeing him tomorrow and I said, I'm 688 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: just like, I had a few symptoms. 689 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: I won't say what. 690 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: He Yeah, so I've had this thing where I think 691 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: I've got a virus or an infection or something that 692 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm coming out of but really affects cognitive function, focus, energy, 693 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: like all of it, and he goes. 694 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 2: Are you thirsty? I go, yeah, like stupid thirsty. 695 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: And it's not diabetes and it's not prostrates, not all 696 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: that I've had that done. And he goes, and when 697 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: you drink, are you still thirsty after you drink? 698 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: And I go, yes, you know, he just asked. 699 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: Me this stuff where he knew the answer, but there 700 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: was no signs, right, there was, and then he then 701 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: I go, ah, fuck it. 702 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 2: Then I just lie down and. 703 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: He puts these all these you know, bottle things on 704 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: me and lights the thing and sticks one million fucking 705 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: needles in me and then gives me these little looks. 706 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: Like rabbit poo to take. And I do not. 707 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't even want to understand, Like I'm just like cool, 708 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: and I just go, I've been a few times now, 709 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: and I just I look forward to going. And you know, 710 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: my experience and medical Western doctors are great, but I 711 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: like going somewhere where if I'm there for forty minutes 712 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: or an hour and twenty minutes, he doesn't care. Yeah, 713 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: there's no hurry, yes, right, he's got like there's just 714 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: no fucking hurry, and he's you know, and he clearly 715 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: he charges, but what he charges as fuck all. Firstly, 716 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: he's got a PhD from Melbourne UNI. Secondly, he's an 717 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: actual doctor of Chinese Medicine CHAT trained in China, so 718 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: he's yeah, his knowledge is broad, but he just has 719 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: this energy. I'm like, dude, I could just come and 720 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: fucking sit next to you for the morning. I think 721 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: I'd be better. Do you know what I'm saying? You 722 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: know when you know and it's not like, ah, of 723 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: course he's calm and all of that, but some people, 724 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: I think for me anyways, some people are therapeutic just 725 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: to be around them or calming, and some. 726 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: People are the opposite. 727 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: So I think proximity to people and how those people 728 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: affect you definitely plays a role in the mental and 729 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: emotional and physical health. 730 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 3: Absolutely. And I'm sure, I mean, I was going to 731 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 3: drag this one out, but you said something in the 732 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 3: last three years has been done for seventy years. I 733 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 3: think we've spoken about it before. The heart rate or 734 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 3: the Heart Math Institute work where they've looked at the 735 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 3: electromagnetic's coming off your heart and how that actually creates 736 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: a resonance and an impact on the other parts around you. 737 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 3: All of those types of things. There's a direct translation 738 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: for that. And if someone's holding a very very very 739 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: strong state of gratitude and essentially matching that of the 740 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 3: Earth's magnetic rhythm, it's so easy to feel at ease 741 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: around them because it's just like comforted by Mother Earth. Yeah, 742 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 3: it's awesome. 743 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: I dig him anyway, I'm saying him tomorrow shout out 744 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,720 Speaker 2: to doctor Paul. 745 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure his actual name is that, but that's 746 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: what he goes by, so bless his little sucks. 747 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 3: I wanted to I've got one more thing to add. 748 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no. 749 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: Well I've got still on the same topic. But do 750 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: you do you do you bro? 751 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 3: Now you go, No, let's go the same topic. 752 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 2: Well, don't forget that, don't forget that. 753 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: Whatever, it's the ton I just wanted the magnetics. That's 754 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 3: what will come back to. 755 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh well, fuck, it could even be what I'm going 756 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 2: to bring up. 757 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 3: Okay, I love that. 758 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: It's not full moon? 759 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: Is it seventeenth? Is full moon? 760 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 2: Right? 761 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: No, I was just going to say, you're going to 762 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: talk about like I remember, like so many times I've 763 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: had experiences where people that I know, clients or friends 764 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: or whatever, respectfully kind of lost their shit. You know, 765 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: there's just been something going on and the reaction seems 766 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: completely kind of out of whack with the events. 767 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 2: And you know, we're talking. 768 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: About how your environment or the things around you affect you. 769 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: Any thoughts on or insight into or experience with people 770 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: responding to full moons. 771 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 3: I hang out with a crew that is very pro 772 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 3: all of that, and then you listen to anybody else 773 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 3: talk about it, and it's it's it's considered all who 774 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 3: is So I guess I know people that use the 775 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: full moon ceremonially to release a whole lot of things 776 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 3: and to do that, And you know, do I have 777 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 3: really good tangible evidence to say this unequivocally exists? No? 778 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 3: Does it have any negative impact to believe it absolute? Not? 779 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: If you feel like today I can actually release a 780 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 3: whole lot of baggage that I wouldn't have been able 781 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 3: to other days, that's a great belief to have. So yeah, no, 782 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 3: I don't have anything super tangible. However, you know, there 783 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 3: is a very strong electromagnetic force that's coming from the Moon, 784 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 3: and we know that the soul of flares have a 785 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 3: significant impact on our experience on Earth as well. So 786 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 3: it's a very very interesting topic, and I'm not the 787 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 3: person to speak to it. 788 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to share one little anecdote, which everybody, 789 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: this is an anecdote, this is a story, This is 790 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: not science. 791 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: So I did a gig a few years ago for. 792 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: A a special needs school, so kids with you know, 793 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 1: mental and physical disabilities, but most of the kids were 794 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: intellectually impaired. 795 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: To some level. And I was doing. 796 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: An all day gig with the staff before the term started. 797 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: And I got there early and I met the principal, 798 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: who's love and she just give me a tour, and 799 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: I said, what are the kids like? You know, tell 800 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: me about the kids, and she was kind of describing, 801 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: you know, their challenges and where we're at. And I like, 802 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: and are they like they is like, is it real 803 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: hard or are they you know? 804 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: Is it I'm sure you love them all, but is 805 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 2: it easy? Is it hard? 806 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: She goes, it's mostly pretty good, you know, It's like 807 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: you know, day to day there's stuff, but mostly it's 808 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: good except for full moons, of course, Like this is 809 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: literally what And I go, oh, oh, go on, tell 810 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: me more, of course, yes, of course, And she's like, oh, well, 811 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: I can't say exactly what she said, but she wasn't disparaging, 812 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: but she you know, she intimated that old things go 813 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: things go awry for about twenty four hours, like twenty 814 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: four thirty six hours, and I go, hang on, hang 815 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: on really like, oh, she goes absolutely like the kids, 816 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: not all the kids, but a lot of the kids 817 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 1: really change and their behavior changes and their state changes. 818 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 2: And I go, do the other teachers think that she goes? 819 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 3: They know that? 820 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 2: Like she was talking to me like, how do you 821 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: not know this? 822 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 823 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, oh, that is so interesting. 824 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: So because that was such a profound thing for my 825 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: head to hear, I didn't forget it. 826 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know tell us your. 827 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: Last Well, I think you're going to talk to us 828 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: about another example or story. 829 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is it's speaking to it's sort of 830 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 3: an extension of everything that we're talking about, so like 831 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 3: humidity and climate and where you live and all of 832 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 3: the various environmental elements they're essentially changing the well, it's 833 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 3: different frequency inputs into your body that change its state. 834 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 3: And so our chief medical officer again, and I'll just 835 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 3: share some stuff that's coming out because he's doing some 836 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 3: stuff with the Canadian government with autism, and what he's 837 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: finding is that autistic kids have a lack of delta. 838 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 3: And he's seen in the other literature published that that's 839 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 3: not the case, that they've got too much delta. But 840 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 3: then when he's been doing this with his very objective measurements, 841 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 3: he's been seeing that they have a lack of delta. 842 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 3: Delta is a wavelength that happens in deep sleep, so 843 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 3: you've got beta, alpha, theeder delta, So delta is deep 844 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 3: wave sleep. THEAA is sort of embodied movement when you're 845 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 3: just dancing and not thinking about it. Would be a 846 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: way to think about it just before you go to 847 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 3: sleep as well. Alpha is gratitude and peace and meditation. 848 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 3: Beata wave is thinking and productivity, and then gamma is 849 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 3: insight and inspiration and that comes in short, fast bursts 850 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 3: of gamma. So delta is the deep one. Delta is 851 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 3: what you need for brain recovery, and he noticed that 852 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 3: they have a lack of delta, so he started putting 853 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 3: in He's been working with some of the leading quantum 854 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 3: physicists and they've put together an AI and biofeedback that 855 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 3: puts specific electromagnetics into a mat that people lie on. 856 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: It's not his product. He's just been designing some of 857 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 3: the frequency stuff around it. He has taken kids with 858 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 3: autism from nonverbal individual words only and not walking to 859 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 3: stringing entire sentences together and singing while walking eight weeks later, 860 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 3: and it's literally lying on their back restoring. They're putting 861 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 3: it into a very low hurtz of electromagnetic gradients, sort 862 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 3: of zero point five to four, which is the range 863 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 3: for delta, and then bluxeing with a bit of biofeedback 864 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 3: that comes from the mat as well. All they're doing 865 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 3: is changing the electromagnetic gradient that's going through this mat. 866 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 3: They start seeing more delta, greater brain recovery because their 867 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 3: sleep is actually more effectual now. And this he's seen 868 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 3: infants being brought back from death in Africa. Normally they 869 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 3: just leave them to die. He put it on the mat, 870 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 3: it was alive the next morning. He's been regrowing cardiac 871 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 3: tissue like He's just been doing the most insane things 872 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: with very directed electromagnetic inputs. So it's it's highly specific, 873 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 3: but it just speaks to the power of our entire environment, 874 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 3: like the sun is electromagnetic. The moon is electromagnetic, all 875 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 3: our everybody around you is electromagnetic. Your WiFi is electromagnet. 876 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 3: All of these things are influencing us in different ways, 877 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 3: and they can. It's the utility like this is the 878 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,720 Speaker 3: future of medicine is essentially operating with this quantum space. 879 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 3: It's absolutely fascinating. 880 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: Why did you have to wheel that out at the end. 881 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: I feel like that would have been a good starting point. 882 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 3: Maybe you can put it so it looks like it's 883 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 3: from the beginning. 884 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is. That is bloody incredible. Ask that 885 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 2: guy if he wants to have. 886 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: A chat one day, I will I can, Yeah, I mean, 887 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: that'd be probably not smart enough to interview him, So 888 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: maybe you need to interview him with me. 889 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 3: We've got I could probably send you some of his stuff. 890 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 3: It's he's got. We've probably done maybe one hundred and 891 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 3: twenty hours. It's part of our professional development. And he 892 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 3: will speak on any topic and he will just track 893 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 3: from what happened three thousand years ago, and then what 894 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 3: happened when Pythagoras came up with these principles, and then 895 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 3: what was this guy in the eighteen hundreds doing, and oh, 896 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 3: that's now contributed to Oh we do this basic little 897 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 3: thing in modern medicine. But yeah, he's just he's just brilliant. 898 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 3: He knows everything about everything. 899 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: How old is this guy, he's fifty. 900 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 3: Man photo photographic memory, remembers every blood of every patient 901 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 3: that he's had, just reads a paper ingests it and 902 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 3: it's just there and he just brings it back on demand. 903 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 3: Like he's just he is an absolute freak. 904 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 2: Is he a medical doctor or a PhD? 905 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 3: He is medical and then trained in Chinese medicine, and 906 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 3: then he's just he essentially just goes around to a 907 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 3: number of different things, Like there's a number of large 908 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 3: university hospitals in Italy where he lives, and he just 909 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 3: goes around and does like takes all the cases that 910 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 3: other people can't do. And then he'll and then he 911 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 3: goes off just lecturing and he's coding, coding his brain. 912 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: That guy should be world renowned. I mean it probably is. 913 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: He probably is in a space, but he should be. 914 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 1: I mean, he sounds like two hundred years from now 915 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: people are going to be talking about that dude. 916 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 3: That's That's one of the things that motivates me is 917 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 3: to get his brain out there and that's he's not 918 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 3: scalable without tech. And this is like our whole job 919 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 3: has been to essentially couch couch this knowledge base, but 920 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 3: do it in a systematic way. It's evidence based that 921 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 3: can be accessed by anyone. That's essentially our whole organization's purpose. Wow, 922 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 3: one would. 923 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 2: Mate. 924 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: It's always great to chat to you. I appreciate you. 925 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 1: Tell people where. 926 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 2: They can find you and learn a little bit about 927 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 2: your work. 928 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: And your offerings so they can hit you up. 929 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, great, thank you. Probably the best thing to do 930 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 3: is just google Shay group, Shae group, and then doctor 931 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 3: cam McDonald just put that in Google. And then for 932 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 3: health professionals, we've got courses using the leading medical AI 933 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 3: tech that sort of incorporates everything that we've been talking 934 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 3: about today and a whole lot more. And then corporate 935 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 3: well being programs. We support kids in schools we learned 936 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 3: three sixty. We support gyms with the same insights as well, 937 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 3: so getting better outcomes for your members. And then just 938 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 3: a general user app that anyone can pick up and 939 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 3: get the best in lifestyle medicine and what's best for them. 940 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: So all of the stuff that we spoke about today 941 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: is actually written into the app maybe except for that 942 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 3: electromagnete stuff right at the end, But all the environmental 943 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 3: stuff is right there for you, so just go there 944 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 3: and get stuck in. We've got a whole ecosystem and 945 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 3: we're trying to eliminate disease and pain by twenty fifty. 946 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 3: That's our goal. 947 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 2: That's good. That's a good goal. That's a good goal. 948 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: Hey mate, I will say goodbye our fair but for now, 949 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 1: thanks for coming to play again. 950 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 3: Thanks as appreciate it.