1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: It fits in with us Bomb show interview. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: We didn't know how much was going to be in 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: that interview last night with Ibrah, Meghan and Harry, but 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: I tell you what, there was quite a few and 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: obviously they talk about the firm quite a bit. The 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: biggest revelation for everyone though, and this is the one 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: that they are talking about. 8 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Meghan dropped this in those months. 9 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: When I was pregnant. We have in tandem the conversation 10 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: of he won't be given security, it's not going to 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: be given a title, and also concerns and conversations about 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: how dark his skin might be when he's born. 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 4: What who is having that conversation? 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: There are several conversations. 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 4: There's a conversation with you with Harry. 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 5: What was that conversation? 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 6: That conversation I never got into share at the time, 18 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 6: it was awkward. I was a bit shocked. 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 5: Can you tell us what the question was? 20 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 6: No, I'm not comfortable showing that, okay, And you're. 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: Not going to tell me who had the conversation. 22 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: I think that would be very damaging to them. 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 7: Massive moment last night. 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: In the UK. 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: It hasn't been broadcast live yet, but obviously the papers 26 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: have been writing, there's been headlines, so let's cross over 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: to the UK now. Royal correspond Gavin Gray joins us, 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: what is been splashed on the front pages of every 29 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: paper over there? 30 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 8: It is everywhere. It's not just the front pages, it's 31 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 8: pages two, three, four, five, six, I mean quite extraordinary 32 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 8: the coverage they're getting. I have to say that I 33 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 8: think it is polarized people even more than they were 34 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 8: polarized before, whether they like Harrion Meghan, indeed, whether they 35 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 8: love them, or whether they think they are destroying the 36 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 8: royal family and should simply shut up and go away 37 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 8: and believe you me. Some of the language is a 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 8: lot worse than that. I think plenty of people think, well, 39 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 8: they've done this. It's this is a family tearing itself apart, 40 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 8: and they feel very sorry for the queen whose ninety 41 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 8: nine year old husband remains in hospital. 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 7: Kevin, I found it sad as well. At the same time, 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 7: I thought there was some the honesty was sensational because 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 7: it was jarring to hear what they'd been through, about 45 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 7: how they were trapped and how they felt trapped and all. 46 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Of the above. I don't know. 47 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 7: I was quite sympathetic to the two of them, and 48 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 7: I feel like I'm the only person saying that. 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 8: I know, I think a lot of Americans are saying that. 50 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 8: And also earlier today what was trending on various social 51 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 8: media sites was hashtag being the monarchy or end the monarchy. 52 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 8: So he is having a big debating point about this. 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 8: But you know, there are certain things in there which, 54 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 8: to me, as a role watch for somebody who's been 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 8: doing this for decades, I don't recognize. And when she 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 8: said she was banned or barred from getting any help 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 8: following feelings of suicidal thoughts, I mean who barred her? 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 8: And she's a strong, independent young woman. Harry has represented 59 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 8: mental health Mental. 60 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 9: Health and William and Kate with Harry and Meghan originally 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 9: were part of his mental health charity. That one was 62 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 9: horrible to hear, but hard to understand why she wouldn't 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 9: be allowed to help? 64 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, and other things that would strike me as being 65 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 8: rather odd about this all well. They also talked that 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 8: Meghan said she had no idea that her half sister 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 8: had written a book of called Diaria Princess Pushy Part One. 68 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 8: She also said that she had no idea the royal 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 8: family was like that she was completely naive about it. 70 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 8: I find that very hard. This was a bright young woman, 71 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 8: n Devin. 72 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: I do you know what I took away from that interview? 73 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: I saw honesty in that girl. Might She's been through 74 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: quite a bit mental problems. She's not getting any help. 75 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: They've been told that their security has been cut. Then 76 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: the media over there give away their location in Canada. 77 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: This girl had suicidal thoughts, and you're worried about the queen. 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 8: Well, I'm afraid I am, because plenty of people over 79 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 8: here suspect that this has been rather more orchestrated than 80 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 8: it might be permitted to be. In other words, they 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 8: simply don't believe a lot of what Meghan has said. Now, look, 82 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 8: you're quite suicidal thoughts, absolutely terrible and something should have 83 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 8: been done about that. But you know, even the questions 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 8: about was somebody questioned what color skin the child would have. 85 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 8: We don't know which role that was. We don't know 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 8: how it was said, whether it was said really maliciously 87 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 8: or perhaps by an elderly royal who I don't know 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 8: should have known better. But the choice of language is 89 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 8: bad either way. It shouldn't have happened, correct, But we 90 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 8: don't know a lot of the background to this. What 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 8: we do know is I think Meghan and Harry have 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 8: blown apart any potential reconciliation there might have been with 93 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 8: the in laws and relatives. 94 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 10: In u k. 95 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I thought he kept the door open 96 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 7: with his dad and also William when he was saying, look, 97 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 7: things are separated at the moment, but you know Dad 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 7: wasn't taking my calls. I want to continue to work 99 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 7: at mending those relationships. The thing is, when you have 100 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 7: all these accusations and the claims, and as you say, Kevin, 101 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 7: it's one side of the story. We're never really going 102 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 7: to hear any detail from the other side of the story, 103 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 7: are we. 104 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 8: No, And that's one of the problems now. I mean, 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 8: when I first heard the documentary got I thought, actually, 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 8: this is not as bad as I thought it was, 107 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 8: And then in hindsight, actually I think it's worse. And 108 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 8: let me explain in brief, she said somebody, a royal 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 8: family member, had talked to her about the skin color, 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 8: and she thought that was racist. She then said, I'm 111 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 8: not going to say who it was. Well, what we're 112 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 8: now all doing is speculating who it might be. So 113 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 8: in the moment, all of the Royal family are painted 114 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 8: as being racist, and we're going to be talking about 115 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 8: this for days and weeks and months to come, Kevin, Harry. 116 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: Packed it up. Harry packed it up. Though it's not 117 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: just Megan's signing that that was Harry. 118 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 5: It was all that was only said to Harry. 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 11: Apparently he doesn't have to name someone they said, and 120 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 11: the details of that varied as well between them all 121 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 11: because there were different accounts from Harry. 122 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 8: And Meghan who said it, when they said it, where 123 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 8: it was said, I don't know things like that. You 124 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 8: would have thought they would have known precisely because they 125 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 8: would have been so shocked about it. 126 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 9: Kevin, what about the fact that the Royal family, Harry 127 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 9: says they're afraid of the press. What do you think 128 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 9: of that, because I mean, obviously sure you play the 129 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 9: game together, but afraid of seemed pretty full on. 130 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, well, you know, after what he experienced with a 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 8: young boy having to follow his mother's funeral, Cortege, I'm 132 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 8: really not surprised. It's a horrendous experience and I can 133 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 8: understand him with a complete mistrust of the media. But 134 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 8: they have their critics would say they've tried to have 135 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 8: their cake and eat it, and they've enjoyed all the 136 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 8: money a wedding costing thirty million pounds. You know, they're 137 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 8: living in a villain i in California for twelve million, 138 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 8: and they're complaining about how tough it's been. Well, I'm 139 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 8: afraid there will be people comparing it like a lockdown 140 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 8: of coronavirus. There will be people in London living on 141 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 8: the top floor one bedroom department with kids running around. 142 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 8: Who would think you don't know what tough means. 143 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: UK Royal Correspondent Gavin Greg thank you very much for 144 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: coming on the shy Buddy Cheers guys. 145 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 7: Thanks keV. 146 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 147 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 7: I'm it's the true Royalist and that is the reaction 148 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 7: from the UK. That's the UK, not yes, it is. 149 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: The feeling from the UK. Don't let that guy represent 150 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: the whole of the UK. 151 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 7: That is the Royalist. 152 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: You know what, this is the thing we go on 153 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: to you watch pelevision in the mornings. You've got forty 154 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: five different royal correspondents. 155 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Mate, how much is he a royal correspondent? 156 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 7: That's the thing, This is the thing. These are the 157 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 7: two extremes like that guy he'll defend the palace till 158 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 7: he dies. Innocent people. 159 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: Listen, there was a guardian they did a prank yesterday 160 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: where they got four royal correspondents and paid the money 161 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: to comment about the interview that they hadn't even seen. 162 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: And you know what, they all slagged off Meghan and 163 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: Harry's right. 164 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: It's disgusting. That's right. 165 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 7: I agree. So how can you go by I'm not 166 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 7: going by what that guy's saying. I'm saying, these are 167 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 7: the two extremes that you're seeing. He is a royalist 168 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 7: that will carry the Queen's word to the grave. Here's 169 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 7: what we see. Two young people that weren't in a 170 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 7: situation that was going to work for their lifestyle, and 171 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 7: a mental challenge and disability that she was suffering over there, 172 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 7: and they had to get out of it. So we 173 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 7: sit here going I understand where Meghan and Harry were 174 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 7: last night. I understand where they're coming from. But what 175 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 7: he was, Gavin was the great example of is how 176 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 7: a lot of the royalists think over there. There's two extreme. 177 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 5: Besides what do you started by saying? 178 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 9: He said, it's very polarizing because so many people don't 179 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 9: want to believe a bad word about that royal family. 180 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 5: And then so many people like this is obvious. 181 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 7: Great to see the extreme we get. 182 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 183 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: We get? 184 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of that guy, We get all the 185 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: negative stuff. 186 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 7: Oh yeah. 187 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: Finally Harry and Meghan come out and speak the truth. 188 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: He comes down and crashes them down again. 189 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 7: He's the British press. And that's why when we started this, 190 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 7: I said, I've seen nothing positive in the news about 191 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 7: last night's conversation. 192 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: You do see positive stuff. 193 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 9: If you look at anything that's based in America, it's 194 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 9: all positive as they're supported. They don't have the investment 195 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 9: in the royal family the way we do, the way. 196 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: The palms are. 197 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 12: Yeah. 198 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, time to become a republic. Another referendum. 199 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 10: It's the stuff of fairy tales. 200 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: Harry and Megan, Why did you leave? 201 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: Lack of support? 202 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 7: A lack of understanding, says more Revelations. Hidden footage from 203 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 7: Oprah Winfrey after the chat. 204 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 9: So it's new footage that wasn't aired during the interview. 205 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 9: I mean, this interview must have gone four hours. It 206 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 9: was two hours that we saw. There's so much more 207 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 9: that they couldn't air just for time. 208 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: Sois or no drinks either. 209 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 13: They just did that. 210 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 9: I see her grab a water at one point and 211 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 9: I thought I'd be guzzling that. 212 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 5: You must be dry mouthed and knack it. 213 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 9: She looks very harm I'm so calm, so collected. God 214 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 9: she handles express speaks beautifully. The two of them are 215 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 9: in Poor Harrie at one point, didn't I think, look 216 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 9: a bit flustery, went a bit pink, but understandably so. Anyway, 217 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 9: some of the new stuff that's come out, So starting 218 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 9: with Harry explained that, you know, they definitely left the 219 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 9: UK because of racism, drove him and Meghan out of Britain. 220 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 5: But the thing being the Queen. 221 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 9: When they said they were leaving, he thought they were 222 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 9: going to see the Queen, and then her aids stepped 223 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 9: in and overrote it, which is a little bit weird 224 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 9: because you would think that no one tells the queen 225 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 9: what to do, but apparently that's not the case. 226 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 6: Please pass on to and touches the Sussex that he 227 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 6: cannot come to Norfolk. The Queen is busy, She's busy 228 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 6: all week. 229 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 4: After she just invaded you. 230 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 6: Yesque is busy, She's busy all week. 231 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Do not come up here much. 232 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a tough one. My take out of it, though, 233 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 7: there was that they didn't leave because of racism. They 234 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 7: left because of the lack of support from the Royal 235 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 7: family and the press. 236 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 9: Well that's all tied up in what they believe is racism. 237 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 9: They think all the negative press because in the lead 238 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 9: up to the wedding. 239 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 5: Meghan, you remember, everyone loved her. She was amazing. 240 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 9: She was this bright, shining like the two of them 241 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 9: were going to do so much good for the Royal family. 242 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 9: And then after that and they say that after their 243 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 9: tour to Australia, she announced she was pregnant and then 244 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 9: everybody sort of turned on her. They gay reckon it's 245 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 9: because the Royals were jealous that she was doing so 246 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 9: well with the public that people started to plant stories. 247 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: And also you don't think it would have ripped their 248 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: heart of heart out when they were worried about the 249 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: color of the skin of their boy. 250 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 9: So this is the thing that was a huge question, 251 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 9: you know, because obviously that was revealed that there was 252 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 9: a conversation around the color. What color would actual's skin be, 253 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 9: how dark would he be? And the thing was which 254 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 9: family member said it the two of them said we're 255 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 9: not going to tell you who it is. But then 256 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 9: Harry pulled Oprah aside after the interview and made it 257 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 9: clear to her who it wasn't and asked her, if 258 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 9: opportunity presented, to please tell people. 259 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: He did not share the identity with me, but he 260 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that I knew and if I 261 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 4: had an opportunity to share it that it was not 262 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 4: his grandmother nor his grandfather were a part of those conversations. 263 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: He did not tell me who were a part of 264 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: those conversations. As you can see, I tried to get 265 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: that answer on camera. 266 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 7: And off you in that because, for one, the Queen 267 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 7: wouldn't make that comment. Secondly, Philip is famously racist, so 268 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 7: you wouldn't take it on board anyway. 269 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: So that's the thing. So if you count those two out, 270 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: we go the next down. 271 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 9: And this is the problem, is that all you've just 272 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 9: started a witch hunt around the world of people guessing 273 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 9: which family member is the you know, the next racist 274 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 9: in line after Philip. On that note, though, Meghan talking 275 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 9: about how she thinks she experienced more negativity from the 276 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 9: press compared to Kate Middleton because of the color of 277 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 9: her skin and this is the problem that the British 278 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 9: press have proven to discriminate against it. Anyway, This was 279 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 9: one example where I think Kate must have tried to 280 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 9: show Meghan that she knew how she felt, and clearly 281 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 9: that wasn't the case. 282 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: If they can compare what the experience that I went 283 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: through was similar to what has been shared with us 284 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: keat was called we tie Katy waiting to marry William. 285 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: While I imagine that was really hard, and I do, I 286 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: can't picture what that felt like. This is not the same. 287 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: And if a member of his family will comfortably say 288 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: we've all had to deal with things that are rude, 289 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: rude and racist are not the same. 290 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 9: They don't feel the same in the slightest having to 291 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 9: wait to marry someone oh like man can't even compare. 292 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 7: The other thing I struggle with too, is the amount 293 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 7: of feedback in the comments around Hang on a minute, 294 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 7: they've got everything. What do you mean they were doing 295 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 7: it tough? 296 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 5: No, mental health doesn't discriminate, discriminate. 297 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 7: It doesn't matter how much cash you've got, the financial situation, 298 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 7: the support you might have, It does not matter. 299 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 9: One of the topics we didn't see last night, which 300 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 9: Oprah did ask her about so I do have the 301 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 9: audio of is Meghan's family. We heard all about Harry's, 302 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 9: but obviously Thomas Markle in particular, I mean that guy. 303 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 9: It just went off the rails in the lead up 304 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 9: to the wedding and Meghan's relationship with him, and Oprah 305 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 9: was keen to find out if there was any way 306 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 9: those two were going to reconcile, because obviously that was 307 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 9: just a mess. 308 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 5: Anyway, this is what she said. 309 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: When we were told by the comms team this is 310 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: a story that was going to be coming out, which, 311 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: by the way, the tabloids had apparently known for a 312 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: month or so and decided to hold until the Sunday 313 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: before our wedding because they wanted to create trauma. We 314 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: called my dad and I asked him and he said, no, 315 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: absolutely not. I said, you know, the the Institution has 316 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: never intervened for anything for us, but they can try 317 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: to go in and kill this story. But if they 318 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: do this once, we're not going to be able to 319 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: use that same leverage to protect our own kids. One day. 320 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 10: He said, no, absolutely not. He hadn't been talking to them. 321 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he basically lied to you. 322 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: So he said I wasn't talking to the press, but 323 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 5: he was. 324 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: I know. 325 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 9: But she's genuinely she's genuinely gutted by that, as you 326 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 9: would be. 327 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 5: It's your dad, who do you trust? 328 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: The thing is when they talk, when they say the 329 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: words institution and firm, we know who is that. 330 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: They're faceless people. Yeah, and you know what more family 331 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: can now and we. 332 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: Don't know how involved they are with this story line 333 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: that has been created. 334 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: They can now go, oh, we didn't know anything about 335 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: this album. You know, we've got a team around us 336 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: to take care of this. 337 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 9: Which are the people that Megan and Harry said when 338 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 9: they were having mental health issues. Harry said, I didn't 339 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 9: tell my family. I told these hatless people. So yeah, 340 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 9: you're right, the Royal family can Actually we didn't know 341 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 9: or we would have helped. If that's the reality. 342 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: What a world to live in. 343 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 9: Well, you don't tell your family that you're mentally struggling 344 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 9: to get their help, but you tell these unknown people 345 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 9: that we don't like, no one knows. 346 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 7: Also said too that you'd sent numerous emails I'm really struggling. 347 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 7: I need help, and the reply was, well, everybody goes 348 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 7: through this. I'm so sorry. That you feel this way. 349 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: As well as a bit disappointed with is they had 350 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: options to follow, to go to a country that was 351 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: part of the Commonwealth, and they were going to New Zealand, 352 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: not Australia, Zealand, South Africa or Canada were their choices. 353 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: What's wrong with us? 354 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 7: They settled down? 355 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: Had them for sure? 356 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 7: Brons know we've got our own royal family environ? Do 357 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 7: you know what I found strange? Though? I thought there 358 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 7: was a real lack of ignorance on her behalf of 359 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 7: not not researching or caring to do any further study 360 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 7: about the family. 361 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: I know that she was marrying. 362 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: In the one part, it was quite bizarre. I felt 363 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 5: that undid this is just. 364 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 7: The Royal family right of England, right, and you are 365 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 7: marrying into the biggest institute that's ever existed in the 366 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 7: history of the world, and you're not reading up to 367 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 7: learn about the family or what's involved in the job. 368 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 7: Second to that, didn't know the national anthem, so the 369 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 7: effort wasn't made there. 370 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: That part, I guess I felt it. 371 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 7: You know where you're going to be, you know you're 372 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 7: going to be on the world stage for this start. 373 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Did you do in Elisa's family. 374 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 7: They are a little different the role family. She was 375 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 7: born in Kirn's mate and grew up in Brizy, so 376 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 7: it's a little different to Lisa's family. And then the 377 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 7: whole Curtsey part two. You know, and in Meghan's world 378 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 7: you can unders and where she was coming from, where 379 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 7: she went. I've met a lot of celebrities and I 380 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 7: put the queen under the title of celebrity. The queen 381 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 7: is not a Hollywood celebrity. 382 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 5: I agree, misjudged that that was royally But that was. 383 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 9: The one part I didn't believe because she seems very smart. 384 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 9: Mega Michael seems like a very smart groove say that 385 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 9: she didn't if you were going to meet his family, 386 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 9: do you not just whack a Google search to say, 387 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 9: who are the players of the game. 388 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 5: That I'm. 389 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: In public? 390 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: She didn't know you had to Curtsey the Queen every 391 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: time you rock up to see your grandmother. 392 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 9: See well that part, sure you may not have known, 393 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 9: but she said she didn't know. 394 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 7: There was a wide ignorance, strange ignorance. 395 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: The big one is taking away from a mar. 396 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 9: Thomas markle is is going to be on Good Morning Britains. 397 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: We got off of Thomas Markle Junior. 398 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, and he was it was going to cost us 399 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 7: two and a half thousand dollars. 400 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: Do you know what they talked? 401 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 9: Because she spoke about the sister as well, and she said, 402 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 9: I grew up an only child. The fact that the 403 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 9: sister changed her surname back to Markel when Harry and 404 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 9: I started dating sums up. 405 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 5: That fact hang on. 406 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 7: So so she said she was an only child. 407 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 9: Meghan's called herself an only child because these are all 408 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 9: half siblings. These are Dad's siblings from other relationships. 409 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: And the sister who's. 410 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 9: Written the book and does the interviews, she changed her 411 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 9: surname back to Markel. Surely Meghan and Harry started dating. 412 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: Bit fitsy and whipper. 413 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 14: It's the stuff of fairy tales. 414 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 10: Harry and Meghan, why did you leave? 415 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 6: Lack of support, a lack of understanding? 416 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 7: Understanding the interview last night, A big thank you to 417 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 7: Gail as well, Oprah's friend Gail. That was her house the. 418 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: House joke said, did someone actually report. 419 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: That's what they're running? 420 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 9: And Gail came out this morning on TV and said, 421 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 9: justy F and I don't have a house in that area. 422 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 7: Quickly what did is of the interview. It's not my house. 423 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 5: That is exactly what happened. 424 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 12: You know. 425 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: What brought up bad memories too, that lack of support 426 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: and lack of understanding. I suppose I've been in sixteen 427 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: years in the. 428 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: Firm and I feel like you're out of the firm 429 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: exactly how you feel? 430 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 7: Where are you wanting to leave to? Where are you going? Mate? 431 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: You're out of here? Bar and bay yep, Santa Barbara. 432 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't mind that back if you. 433 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 7: Could go a great backyard, You get the chicken pan, 434 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 7: you get everything. What surprised me at the start of 435 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 7: the chat was basically, and we touched on this before, 436 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 7: just Megan's lack of consideration and thought for what the 437 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 7: role might entail, and also her understanding of the royal family. 438 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 7: Here's what she had to say. 439 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: I didn't fully understand what the job was, right, What 440 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 3: does it mean to be a working royal? What do 441 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: you do? There was no way to understand what the 442 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: day to day was going to be, like, yeah, I. 443 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 7: Mean that was up there with what's that? 444 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: Well, she wouldn't that's the thing already online about it, 445 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't it yet not googling. She also went on to 446 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 2: say that she was one hundred percent engrossed in Harry. 447 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: She fell in love with Harry. She's not there on 448 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: Google every night going Okay, this is going to be 449 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: my schedule. 450 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 7: No that, I'm not sure. 451 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 13: There would have been conversation that's about what life would 452 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 13: be like, plenty. 453 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 9: Of press around the fact that it's so difficult to 454 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 9: join that family. 455 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, the other headlines had been about the color of 456 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 7: Archie skin and the question that was asked there. Oprah 457 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 7: then came out and said that it was not Prince 458 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 7: Philip or the Queen who questioned that. What was interesting too, 459 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 7: was I mean, there was a big question asked by 460 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 7: Opra towards the end of the interview to do with 461 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 7: what would life have been like for Harry if he 462 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 7: hadn't met Meghan. 463 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: Do you think he would have left or ever stepped back? 464 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: Were it night for Megan? 465 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 6: No, the answer to your question is no, I wouldn't 466 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 6: have been able to because I myself was trapped as well. 467 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 4: The readys explain how you Prince Harry raised in a 468 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: palace literally a prince, how you were trapped. 469 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 6: Trapped within the system like the rest of my family 470 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: are my father and my brother. They are trapped. 471 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 5: That felt a bit that was a bit aggressive from Oprah. 472 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 5: I thought, no, no, give him a break. He's actually 473 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: walked away. You don't need to do that. Tell me 474 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: how you felt trapped. 475 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I know. 476 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: The big question that everyone is questioning this whole thing 477 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: is by saying, well, you guys are privileged. Well why 478 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: are you complaining about your place in center? 479 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: A privilege to be born into that life. 480 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: Well, this is what he was trying to explain, Sarah, 481 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: you are trapped now. And the only way that we've 482 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: got to see this now is by him falling in 483 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: love with Meghan, and now he can tell us that 484 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: you know what is actually going on behind us? 485 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 9: Certainly, Well, they're twenty minutes into it airing in the UK, 486 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 9: so you can imagine because they've obviously read all the 487 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 9: stories the way the rest of us had before it ed. 488 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 5: But it's only been going they're twenty minutes. Interest. 489 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 13: See last time we saw an interview like this, Michael Jackson, Princess, 490 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 13: I don't know. That's what they say, saying, this is 491 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 13: the thing that saw it, and this is what Harry says, 492 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 13: what happened to my mother and he could see that 493 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 13: happening in the future. 494 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: It's getting worse. The media are coming down harder on him, 495 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: They're getting followed even more, and he could see it's 496 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: going to be one of my family members that will die. 497 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 9: You just hope people the press attitude changes after this, 498 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 9: because it may not. 499 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: It might just get more. 500 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 14: Savage, horrible, ten times more. Imagine horrible. Can you imagine 501 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 14: the pubs right now in the UK that'd be pint 502 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 14: glasses being thrown at the TV. 503 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: Well, apparently Charles is in quite deep distress. 504 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 9: The new media reporters come out and ununderstandably so this 505 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 9: should be for him if he did not support Harry 506 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 9: the way Harry does claim later in the interview, Charles 507 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 9: should be distressed. 508 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: You need to do some work. 509 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: That's another big one for you, Just just to give 510 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: you a bit of an idea how the media are 511 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: handling it. Here's Morgan is that he's about to have 512 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: Thomas Markham on. 513 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 7: God, no one takes him seriously anymore. Let's cross now 514 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 7: he's over there at well in Santa Barbara, I believe 515 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 7: seven years us, corresponded Tim Lesti there, Tim not a problem. 516 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 13: How are you going, Yeah, we're. 517 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 7: Good tim Tell us where you are right now, mate, Barbara, 518 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 7: And is that where Meghan and Harry live? Now? Are 519 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 7: you at the front of their place? 520 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 12: We're actually in a lovely view spot overlooking because it's 521 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 12: a gorgeous coastal village. 522 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, or town. 523 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 12: It's a bigger than the village, but yeah, it's where 524 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 12: they live. 525 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 7: To me, we've been talking about the two different reactions. 526 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 7: It was one that we experienced and we have spoken 527 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 7: about this morning that we thought it was an extremely 528 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 7: brave interview last night that we saw with Oprah Winfrey. 529 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 7: And then we've heard the other side of it, the 530 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 7: reaction from the true royalists out of the UK, who 531 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 7: were disgusted by the openness of what they shared about 532 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 7: the royal family. How's it being received in America? 533 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 12: Well, as you'd expect, America is completely different. They view 534 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 12: royalty in Britain as interesting and an oddity that they 535 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 12: haven't got a stake in it. Also, too, I think 536 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 12: they had more of a sympathy for the background that 537 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 12: Meghan Markel comes from, the television star and they're less 538 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 12: inclined than even we are in Australia as well as 539 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 12: the British. I think to do the takedown on those 540 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 12: who are wealthy and well to do so. Harry and Meghan. 541 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 12: Where I am today, Santa Barbara, Montecito, live in a 542 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 12: terribly privileged area. It's a Montecito local that I spoke 543 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 12: with said to me or there are eleven billionaires in 544 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 12: this suburb. Wow, So it's a good neck of the woods. Right. 545 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 12: These are biger states and they're very wealthy of very 546 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 12: wealthy people there, so they're in a good state. But 547 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 12: Americans don't hold that against them. 548 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 9: Watching last Night, obviously, Meghan presented beautifully. She's so good 549 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 9: at this sort of stuff and communicating. But when Harry 550 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 9: stepped in, Oprah seemed almost unimpressed with him. She seemed 551 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 9: to sort of call him out on well, you're a prince, 552 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 9: what do you mean? 553 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Do you think that's how 554 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 5: Americans probably feel about him? 555 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 12: I don't think. I don't think they're negative towards him 556 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 12: from what I've seen. I think they're open to the couple, 557 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 12: and they typically are pretty fond of the couple. 558 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 10: So no, I don't see a negative and. 559 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 12: Negative feeling towards them to anywhere near the extent. I 560 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 12: think they'll pick up elsewhere. And I think there's a 561 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 12: reason they're finishing up here, not just that it's if 562 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 12: you like Megan's neck of the woods, she's California, right, 563 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 12: But I think also it's that they feel comfortable here, 564 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 12: and he's going to feel more comfortable here than he 565 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 12: ever will in Britain, or probably would in most places 566 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 12: of the Commonwealth. 567 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: Well, the one thing that freaked me out last night 568 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: to him was that the firm as they call them, 569 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: cut them completely in Canada, so no security for the child. 570 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: And this is the other thing as well. Their location 571 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: was leaked to the press, so everyone knew who they were. 572 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: They were going into a pandemic lockdown. But imagine that 573 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: feeling of knowing that people know where you are, you 574 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: don't have any security around you, and you have a 575 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: baby and one on the way. I can understand that 576 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: they had to get away and find somewhere like this, 577 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: like you've said, and find security around them, just for 578 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: the safety. 579 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: For their family. 580 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think Harry actually won that point quite convincingly. 581 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 12: I think you could start out by saying that, come on, Harry, 582 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 12: you're living in Bodacido in a gorgeous set of surrounding. 583 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 12: You're not doing a tough buddy. But I think he 584 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 12: did manage to land the argument that he had a 585 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 12: wife and a child. I'm a royal, I'm exposed to 586 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 12: the winds of the free press and the interest of 587 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 12: the world, and I needed I needed to do something 588 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 12: about that. So I don't think he can hold against 589 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 12: them doing their Netflix and no other deals to help 590 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 12: them along the way. I think he made that case. 591 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: Well, Timmy, you're a Channel seven US US correspondent. 592 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: We've been getting on royal. 593 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: Commentators, royal experts, royal correspondents, and they seem to be 594 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: very very negative against Harry and Meghan. 595 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: Something happened, Timmy. 596 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't know you heard about this, but The Guardian 597 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: conducted an experiment where they got four royal experts on 598 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 2: to comment about the interview that hadn't even been aired yet. 599 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: So these royal experts hadn't even seen the interview yet. 600 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: They had been paid money and they went on and 601 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: did interviews and these were some of the things that 602 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: were said about Harry and meg I. 603 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 14: Think that this was an extremely hard hitting interview this 604 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 14: was an actress giving one of her great performances. 605 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: She did ask the tough questions. She had to ask 606 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 5: the tough questions. 607 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 9: You can't help but be incredibly moved, stunned, saddened by 608 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 9: all of it. 609 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: Timmy, You know what, it seems to me last night 610 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: that the inside the royal sector in that family as well, 611 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: they control these people. 612 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: These are the people that we get to see on 613 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: our screens all the time. 614 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: And it was refreshing last night to see some honesty 615 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: coming from the two people that are experiencing the worst. 616 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 10: Yeah, quite extraordinary. That setup tells you all you need 617 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 10: to know about read the comment, doesn't it? But yeah, no, 618 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 10: I think overall they did well. And the other response 619 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 10: and that is wide applause for Winfrey and her interview. 620 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 10: In fact, one big newspaper, the Washington Post. Over he says, 621 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 10: it proves she's the best best celebrity interviewer of all time. 622 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 10: Now that yeah, laws, But she's getting a lot of 623 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 10: a lot of praise here. 624 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 7: Isn't that great? 625 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Timmy? Thank you very much. We know how busy you are. 626 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, buddy. 627 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 10: Good chatting guys. 628 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: It's everyone wants to talk about the Harry and Meghan 629 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: the interview Angel has given us a call from our 630 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: time and what did you think, Ange? 631 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 15: I thought they were great, And it's actually made me 632 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 15: quite ill seeing the negativity today. Like even last night 633 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 15: I could barely sleep because I just wrote such horrid 634 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 15: things on comment sections, which I regret reading was Yeah, we're. 635 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 9: Best not to click on it and don't give them 636 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 9: the same ye, And what's good out the most for you? 637 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 15: I think the amount of people that are still defending 638 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 15: this family. I mean, without saying too many inappropriate things, 639 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 15: this is a family that wouldn't let their firstborn son 640 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 15: marry the woman he loved because she wasn't pure enough. 641 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 15: They've got another son who's without saying it done, most 642 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 15: likely done some pretty horrible things. The Prince Philip, who 643 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 15: is renowned racist and sexist and homophobe. And people are 644 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 15: still defending this family and attacking a woman of color 645 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 15: who is strong and intelligent. 646 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Well said, And you are so right there. 647 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: And this is the other thing that I've worked out 648 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: for myself over the last twenty four hours as well. 649 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: If you were now I've got you do get sucked 650 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: in by royal experts. And I've always questioned, why is 651 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 2: this person on our television screench commentator commentat why. 652 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Do they are oil expert? 653 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: But you actually do put trust in these people and 654 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: you think what they're saying is right. We had a 655 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: guy called Gavin Gray on this morning. This is what 656 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: he had to say. 657 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 8: They tried to have their cake and eat it. They've 658 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 8: enjoyed all the money. A wedding costee thirty million pounds. 659 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 8: They're living in a villaina in California for twelve million, 660 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 8: and they're complaining about how tough it's been. There will 661 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 8: be people in London living on the top floor, one 662 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 8: bedroom department with kids running around. She would think, you 663 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 8: don't know what tough means. 664 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: So what though, mate, this is? And we should have 665 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: pulled him up more on this mate. She had suicidal thoughts, 666 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: mental problems. She wasn't getting any help from. 667 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: Another money and you're saying that she's out there going oh, 668 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: complaining because. 669 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 5: She's inside of buying by wedding. 670 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: They're defending their family. 671 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 9: And if you want to see something really nice, click 672 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 9: on online. They put up some new pickies this morning 673 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 9: and it's Meghan and Harry and she's cuddling Archie and 674 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 9: Harry's standing behind her and the smile is a MA. 675 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 9: It's the most beautiful family photo and you'll be good. 676 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 9: You'd like to know this. Meghan wore Diana's diamond bracelet 677 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 9: yesterday during the interview. 678 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: Looks beautiful. They are things to and they're. 679 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: Beautiful things that we should be focusing on, shouldn't we? 680 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 7: You know what to and which was brushed over pretty 681 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 7: quickly was the way they were in the chicken pen 682 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 7: and then they threw out there that they got married 683 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 7: three days before the actual wedding that the world. 684 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 5: Saw, and that was just for them. 685 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 7: Pretty quick yet significant moment that we brushed over. I 686 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 7: would have thought, well. 687 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 9: They're dispelling that as a wedding rehearsal. They yeah, yeah, 688 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 9: that one's not worth focusing on. 689 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 5: This a lot of target. 690 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 7: Sure, leave it in the chicken cup. 691 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 8: Fitsy and whipper