WEBVTT - Round 5 Takeaways 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:02.120 Curbs. 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.320 After round one, I asked you this question, box A, 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:08.400 box poo and box A. You got Penroth, the Broncoes in. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.639 The storm box Pe, you've got everybody else. And I said, 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:13.239 what I want to give box A box? 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:14.760 I think we tell them to about a dollar twenty 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.000 five dollars thirty. 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:20.000 Box A about three ninety four dollars for box B. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:21.560 Been a couple of changes. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.560 I think there's been a few changes. Penrithoft to a 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.000 slow start. That doesn't worry me. I've lost faith in 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.440 the Panthers. Kranulla haven't come on like we thought. Manly 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.120 wildly inconsistent has been the dogs in box. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.240 P Yeah, dogs can jump into box A. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:38.880 They are. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:45.040 They are doing all those little things defensive, suffocating the 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:50.360 opposition and it's helping their attack. Like the energy I think. 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:54.040 I don't think I've seen a better kick, chase line 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.600 or aggression in terms of the way they go about it. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.640 Super fit and they can outlast the opposite. That was 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.440 I thought the first three wins are doing all the basics. Well, 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:09.560 went up another gear against the Sharks, but Newcastle were 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.360 just almost stuck in a corner. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:12.640 They wouldn't do anything. 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.240 Yeah, they were totally suffocating them and coops. You can 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.800 see there's certain aspects of the game that they've looked 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.880 at history and based themselves. Like you can see they're 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.680 playing with that bit of macho dogs of war mentality, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.280 but it's some modern day dogs of war. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:27.800 I said this on the show last night. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.600 It's not like a big pack that's going to intimidate 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.920 with their size and power and really burning up. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.600 It's just a fast moving pack of hyaenas. They're all 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:36.920 over you. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.200 And the players are listening to their coach because at 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.440 halftime against the Knights, Cameron Cerrella said they wanted to 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.640 play more direct and get in the long game. Reed 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.800 Marney comes out, kicks early. In the first set, they 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.560 chased down, they score two tries through the middle. Reed 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.760 Marty was the key that second half when your team 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.880 is sort of wondering which style to play, if you 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.960 kick early, it forces everyone to kick chain it almost 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.480 gets them if anyone was hesitating. The early kicked forced 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.800 Dogs into the hard parts of the game, and it's 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.160 like it's like Newcastle were playing in a confined space. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:13.120 Things changed pretty quy apressive. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.080 Like you look at the start of the season, Dogs 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:16.919 for top four. 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:18.320 That five dollars. 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.240 I mean talking a lot about gam but it's just 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.320 it's symbolic of where they sit. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.919 I think we said about the Dogs that the only 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.799 thing is can those players that had the best year 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.680 of their career go again? 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:31.160 Yeah? 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.120 The answer to that is yes they can't. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.799 Yes, Well shows that the desire in the team because 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.080 that a really good win two weeks ago against the 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.760 Sharks and they were just all over them, beat them 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.440 with aggression and after the game they were really sort 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.720 of up on their taes and celebrated and I thought themselves. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.000 Can take a little bit for them to get back 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.200 to worth and go again. From that first set in 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.239 Newcastle where they swarmed all over them wasn't a problem. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.359 You remember the Surrealdo was the architect of what Penrith 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.959 did for four years, called it five years, and he 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.440 took a little bit of blooding to get the Dogs 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.639 on the same page. But I'll tell you what, he 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.480 is one smart defensive coach because he's got history and 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.640 he's doing it now with a completely different group. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.280 Well he's been out of Penrith now his third year 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.240 going in. But the effect of cameras eraldo in some 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.200 ways just seeing it now, Coop, because as you know, 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.680 like with a coach, he went in there and this 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.400 side has gone on to win all these titles. He he 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:32.520 was instrumental laying down those defensive principles and I think 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.639 we're just seeing now what a loss that has been. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.440 Well, he hasn't had the influence on those two three 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.160 year players that have come to Penrith. There may be 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.800 the ones now that are sort of missing the mark 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:45.520 comes to defense Penrith. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.800 As I said before, I haven't lost faith in Penrith. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.000 In mind, They've just going to make the eight. 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:51.720 They make the eight. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:53.240 Yeh, yeah, they make the eight. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:58.080 They win games when it's important, and they started the 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.680 season a little bit slow. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.760 But you know they're going for five in a row. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.400 They've got to be some effect once the season starts 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.080 to take form. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.000 I'm so confident that they're going to pick up. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.440 Combinations will start to form. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.120 What do you thinks contribute to where they're at the 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.960 moment terms of playing away from home? 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:19.440 Thing is it's a big one. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.520 Yeah, as you know me going out to Penwrith Park 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.600 Pendoth Park, it's a furnace, hard played, hard place to win. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.920 They run on the field. Hell's bells. 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.440 It's like close in huge crowds all the time. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.040 I think pen have always had. They went in Vegas 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.480 at the start of the year. They can win it 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.120 a call that they can win anywhere. But there's one 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.040 thing that's hurting Penrith at the moment in our game. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.880 We're all cheap. We follow trends, right. Penrith with their 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.960 attack have been turning a lot of players back underneath. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.359 And the reason they've been doing that is to find 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.760 that pocket of space just near the ruck where defenders 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.400 don't come up, and they had a lot of success, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.599 and then other teams are now copycating that approach and 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.000 whenever are teams of training. Now they're practicing against that 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.960 drop off play back to the ruck. And I'm finding 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.880 now when Penrith are doing that, coaches are saying instead 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.839 of the first or second defender off the ruck coming 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.800 up and going sideways straight away, what coaches are saying 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.880 to because they're going to drop the player back underneath, 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:17.920 go forward. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:18.400 Yes. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.520 So when Nathan Clear would run across the field a 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.800 couple of years ago, there would be a pocketive space 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.920 back near the ruck where that drop off player would 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.280 come through it chasing him and now when he does 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.440 that drop off play, those first and second defenders are 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.240 going forward first, closing off the space and they're not 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.960 getting that forward momentum from that play. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:36.719 That's interesting. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:40.039 A little later, we're going to try Casey McClain's shared 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.400 on the weekend, which shows the effect of that, because 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.320 if you're not chasing from the inside and you're going straight, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.719 that can leave you vunderable on the edge, and you 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.880 see he took advantage of that over the course of 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.560 the weekend. It's interesting about combat coops, right. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.279 And it is a fact that there's no doubt about it, 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:56.240 but it's not an excuse. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.760 Paramatta they shared Belmore Oval for a number of years 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:01.479 with the Bulldogs. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.719 They both played out of Bellmore. When after the eighty 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.000 one Grand Final they burnt. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.400 Cumberlan Oval to the ground because that's what you do 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:09.240 when you win a camp. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.000 He just straight to the ground and and they're building 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.280 param in a stadium again and so they had to 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.480 play to Belmore. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.400 They won eighty three. You're still able to get it done. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:22.320 I think Penrith. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.440 There's not necessarily one thing that's happening with there's a 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:31.440 lot of little things, and they've doubled down in Nathan Cleary, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.000 Isaiah oh and Edwards, and when Edwards misses or when 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.920 Nathan misses, there's just another bit of lag that they 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.440 have to pick up. But I'm with you. I think 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.640 once they get sort of sort of eight ten weeks 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.160 in and Ivan gets control of those fundamentals that have 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.039 made Pendrith great and their list is healthy, there's just 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.160 a bit of pressure on Nathan. Hard to say, one 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:55.720 of the best players the game is pressure, but if 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.080 he's unhealthy for a big chunk, that's going to hurt them. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.279 Well, great players put pressure on themselves, so they coops 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.320 for all instance. We looked from the outside and said, 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.840 I yeah, it's I'll be okay. But for him, within him, 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.400 you can imagine he's out there today doing extras getting. 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.720 Himself back on top. Well under paramatter. 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.960 We said before that how hard they've been defending, how 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.880 hard they've been trying, that they're going to get They're 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.560 going to get their reward, and they got it a 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.120 great signing from him going to be Dylan Walker. Like 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.120 I thought I thought yesterday they were struggling. Their attack 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:34.040 was clunky when he came on the field operating, you know, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:35.400 through through that center. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.000 You saw that the change immediately. Let's have a quick look. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.600 He's first set of six. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.880 How he comes on the field and straight away you 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.880 see the fact. Almost immediately the tempa picked up because 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.040 he's got this great he's got a great run threat. 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.440 He's at his past decision is very very good, and 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.040 this was this He is going to be invaluable for 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.080 Dylan Brown and Dan Hawkins and Mitch Moses when he 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:04.040 comes back and in this result end up getting a 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.720 try in the left hand corner and Dylan Brown no coincidence. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.480 When Dylan Walker came on the field, suddenly Dylan Brown 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:11.880 started to find his best football. 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:12.560 I agree. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:16.840 I think sometimes when you don't have dominant traditional ballplayers, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.800 ballplaying thirteen can help ease the load a little bit. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.080 Learn a little bit about Dylan Brown in this period 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.400 that when he's first receiver, he's very square and runs 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.080 the football, which is effective at when he gets it together. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.719 When he starts going sideways, it doesn't work for him. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.760 But when he's out at the back of shape and 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.480 Walker's that first key, then he's naturally. Moving on to 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.160 forty five, he looks more comfortable, whereas I don't think 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.160 Mitch Moses needs Dylan Walker, but it would help, there's 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.720 no doubt. But I don't think Mitch Moses needs a 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.200 ballplayer middle to control the way that he plays, because 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:53.959 it comes to him quite naturally. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.800 That they certainly need him. Now, yes, you can see 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:57.320 the difference. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.960 Dean Hawkins, we had a little discussion about this where 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.160 we're disagreeing on this one slightly. I haven't seen a 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.880 bloke really soon a bloke hit a ball so. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.120 Sweetly as Dean Hawkins. But you're saying, but it is 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.160 an unusual drop. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.200 It's not the results. It's the unnecessary movement of the 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.040 hand that I feel like could be tweaked. But he's 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.160 kicking the ball well, so don't change it. It's a 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.120 little bit like if your analogy is the Gulf Swing, 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.240 it's a bit like Jim Firick. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:24.800 You know Jim Ferick, don't. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.960 You wouldn't know if he popped up in the seed. 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.160 So there's just a little bit the wrist there. He 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.319 just moves the ball slightly, but he's got good purchase 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.240 on it. So I understand where you're coming from there. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:38.760 But just one thing to tweak up the technique a 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.080 little bit, but done a good job. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.000 Cowboys last two weeks they've got the balance right in 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.200 their football, you know, pouring more energy into their defense, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.560 making less errors an attack. And then I starting to 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.400 get back towards his to his true form what we expect. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.960 Of the Cowboys are so hard to get a good 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.800 read on. Like when they're bad, they're bad. When they're good, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.559 they are good. And it seems to be when they 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.160 have a physical mindset and the defenses right, everything else 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:07.800 just comes off the back of it. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.559 There was just I like that. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.000 I haven't seen this from Peneith for a long time, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.040 but they were just there gaps through their defensive line, 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.680 and the Cowboys took advantage of it. Like perdue drink 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.520 water there is robson, it just went. I think they 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.840 were very direct in the way they played and it 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:27.520 helped them. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.800 Yeah, we said before about the case of McClain try 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.440 and I'm using this as an example. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.760 I'm looking at and I've sort of just come across this. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.079 I saw this play the other day Penrith in the 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.400 last thirty months, and some of the plays and sequences 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.360 so similar to the two thousand and five West Tigers 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.800 and the fact that Nathan, and this is really interesting 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.840 you said that before, is the fact that they're not 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.040 solving the problem from the inside. They're not chasing him hard. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.120 But again that leaves you vulnerable. And this is a 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.320 great way to street shorter defense. You see him there 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.400 like he's says, tripped for short by that. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:08.360 Yeah, it's beautiful ballplaying. Some good halfbacks like Benji and 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.560 Sean have done it before. When you hide that ball, 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:15.079 that angle of Clifford just lost track of the ball. 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.400 Benjam Marshall one of the best, and I can see 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:22.440 it like the double show and keep going can strip 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:27.319 you defensively, but got to be careful once you start 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.800 going two sideways called often you are losing a lot 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:31.640 of full momentum. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.680 I think you, I think are training. When you see 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.319 teams start to playmakers start to do a lot of that, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.880 it's so easy to get into that algorithm and start 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.680 doing I think you're training. It's important that you sort 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.400 of level it up with nice straight football. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:46.640 Yeah. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.760 We saw Adam Reynolds last week do the double drop 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.400 off with good tempo and hiding changing his speed. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:54.559 But you can't do double. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.920 Drop off for double drop off for double drop off, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.360 if that makes sense. Yes, there needs to be a 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.400 variation of like like anything it's good. 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:05.240 About exception made some good old fashioned trains body. We're 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.240 going to do a little bit here, old school playmaking. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.920 Been talking about this. We spoke about last year Sean 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.520 Johnson going up getting your target defender and then just 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.760 delaying an extra half a second, which makes it so 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.920 hard for a defender who's trying to make a decision. 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.320 That half a second probably feels like half an hour. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.079 You see that just and it's just minuscule, just that 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.200 little weight and hit short and there's a couple of 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:35.480 players doing it really good at the moment without making 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.760 a Nathan Cleary fest. You know, I've been watching him 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.480 a little bit. There's been a little change in how 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.880 he played ball. Plays see that there like nice little 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.640 clever ball, but he's having a long look at the 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.520 at the short play. Does one here in a second 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.880 McLean's it is a little bit late on the play. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.400 But again the lake mate, we showed isaakatoa last week. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:12:59.000 He does it. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.240 He's just I reckon, he's the best in the league 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.240 doing it at the moment. Going up to Jason Smith pause, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:06.360 hit short. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.600 The principles of it are basically going fast to slow. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.360 So if you get your target defender as quickly as 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.080 you can and then you slow up when you get 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.440 in the eye line like this, paint Hass tends to 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.000 lean in when he doesn't have to. But if Carto 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.280 just went at the same speed, I'm pretty sure painehas 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:28.040 would slide off. Yes, evolved, because you go fast, you 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:31.120 get in his eyesight, then you stop and lean in. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.200 That pause, as you said, makes a defender lunch and 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:36.160 it creates that. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.040 It's almost like they could reach out and grab it. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.199 A little bit of bait to a defender that wants 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.480 to go. But and then you just delay the past. 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.319 Another example here the first try from the Titans on 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.959 the weekend. You watch Jaden Campbell and this is just 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.520 just a tiny little adjustment here. What's this catches warp 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.560 and you see Herbie. Herby's going to slide when you 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.360 see the other angle, it's going to slide on it. 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:04.400 And last second, that tiny little pause, mate, Herbie bites 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.600 that's in your see it here again. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.680 Wait, I'm going to slide. No, No, he's just paused 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:10.200 on a. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.240 Little double pump at the same time. Yeah, good ballplayer 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.720 from jading Cami. I think, while we're on the train 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.760 spotting thing, what about Sharks first Raiders the last minute. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.720 Finish of the game. Enjoy? What about Ricky jumping up 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:23.120 and down? 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.320 The press conference could have been very different. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.240 Here's one for the people out there. So I think 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.680 it's trindle of the Sharks. They did the right thing, 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.920 But I'm actually going to argue that there's something better 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.320 you could do here. Ran the ball into the corner, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.360 put it in a position where it takes them absolutely 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.440 long way of scoring that trying the match winn play 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.600 for a minute and a half. What the Sharks do 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.480 is they run the ball and get tackled. That is 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:53.160 tackle zero, right. What I'm saying is maybe Trindle gets 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.680 it and puts in a little grubber kick, lets the 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.680 Raiders dive on it, jumps on him, tackle one, he 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.840 goes down, The Raiders go down the field, and they 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.800 score on the fifth play. So what we're saying is 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.880 actually on they have the four plays and they're fifteen 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:13.320 meters further away from the try line. So yes, it's 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.120 the right play to run in the course of high 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.240 percentage one. But when it's down to that time on 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.520 the clock. Take an extra tackle, do the little kick 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.880 and actually dive on them for tackle one. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.720 Because we don't think about that that's been attacked. It 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.120 now where teams rather than risk the seven tackles is 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:30.440 just sort of wander over. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.080 But you're right your hand them an extra tackle. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.000 I'm not saying kick it for a repeat set. I'm 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.280 literally just kick it a meter in front, like in 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:47.720 the corner. Let them dive attack, jump on the other one. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.960 Where do you think South Sydney make the Joe Gray 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.160 full back Latrell left center work beautifully. A lot of 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.480 injuries meant Latrell had to get up a little bit 0:15:58.480 --> 0:15:59.640 of playmaking in the halves. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.720 It was jeez. I thought they were I thought they're fantastic. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.480 One of the better wins South with the carnage that 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:13.640 came into the team plays out of position. Sullivan came 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.360 in with that. Sean go, Yeah, he did a good job. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:17.640 I really like. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:18.200 What Wayne did. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.600 A lot of people said that Latrell should be fullback, 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.720 but he's wholehearted. That Ji Gray wholehearted like he was 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.800 so good and well Latrell he probably will be moved 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.600 back to fullback at some stage when they get at 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.240 the trucks. But I'll tell you what Latrell stood up 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.560 in that moment they needed. But Ji Gray was tremendous. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.000 Joey, I'll ask you this, Coops. We've spoken on this 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.720 a couple of times. The speed of the rucks now, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.200 the speed of the game, the vulnerability that sits in 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.680 the middle of the field. I think this and what 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:54.080 we've seen in turn is the smaller, diminutive fullback starting 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.320 to become in vague as opposed to the Gi Latrell, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.520 big powerful one. It's like the smaller blokes at the 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.040 moment seem to be a lot more effective through that 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:04.720 middle field. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.680 Yeah, there's pros and cons. Look, you get the best 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:12.760 player for the best position. I think Jie Gray. Look, 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.520 if you're trying to pros and cons of it all, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.320 the guy is energetic, he's great, He'll run for twenty 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.159 carriers and won't shirk his responsibility. But if you were 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.080 to isolate him ten meters off the line off a 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.399 high kick and have Tom Travoyvich come through, Tom's jumping 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.360 over the top, yep, right, the Trell Mitchell is powerful 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.520 one on one like he will beat you. But if 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.680 you keep the ball in play for long periods against 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.800 Latrell and move it left to right while he's at fullback, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.280 you will catch him out at some. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.080 State, make him unnecessary running. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.960 Yeah, so there's no doubt that's our game is brutal, 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.120 but our game can be a game of chess as well, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.040 when you start working through x's and o's. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:51.760 I tell you, I think about saus Coops. 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.080 We said before one of the things that is cup 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.640 to their good starts that he has been the young 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:59.960 guys coming in and elevating themselves. Jamie Humphreys perfect example. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.159 Liam LeBlanc has been good. Tell us Duncan now is 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.680 getting back to his best form. But a young bloke 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.440 he he brought well, he's not so much a young. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.159 Guy, but the guy brought from the Dolphins. Lachlan Hubner, 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.760 he played third on the weekend. He's fantastic. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:21.639 Yeah, workaholic, physical, He's got that sort of Wayne's always 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.560 had that sort of protective middle four that just works 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.480 at Plath at the Dolphins. Tony Carroll the Broncos and 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.040 fits that mild whatever than they. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:32.879 Do with the harps Coops. 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.240 So, Bud Sullivan, you think that Jaden Sullivan are going 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:37.320 to seven give them. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.359 What he did? What about what about six? 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.919 I mean does lewid Is Lewis Dodd back playing at 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.280 the moment might get his chance? He could be or 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.560 do you think that would you look together Latrell in 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:49.000 a six. 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:53.840 I'd put Latrell at six because the way you keep 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.000 Joe Gray and the team is you have to find 0:18:56.000 --> 0:19:00.000 a spot for Latrell. Now when the game is an 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.520