1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Curbs. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: After round one, I asked you this question, box A, 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: box poo and box A. You got Penroth, the Broncoes in. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 3: The storm box Pe, you've got everybody else. And I said, 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 3: what I want to give box A box? 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: I think we tell them to about a dollar twenty 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: five dollars thirty. 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: Box A about three ninety four dollars for box B. 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 4: Been a couple of changes. 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: I think there's been a few changes. Penrithoft to a 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: slow start. That doesn't worry me. I've lost faith in 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 3: the Panthers. Kranulla haven't come on like we thought. Manly 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: wildly inconsistent has been the dogs in box. 14 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 4: P Yeah, dogs can jump into box A. 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: They are. 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 4: They are doing all those little things defensive, suffocating the 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 4: opposition and it's helping their attack. Like the energy I think. 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen a better kick, chase line 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: or aggression in terms of the way they go about it. 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: Super fit and they can outlast the opposite. That was 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: I thought the first three wins are doing all the basics. Well, 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: went up another gear against the Sharks, but Newcastle were 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: just almost stuck in a corner. 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: They wouldn't do anything. 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were totally suffocating them and coops. You can 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: see there's certain aspects of the game that they've looked 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: at history and based themselves. Like you can see they're 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: playing with that bit of macho dogs of war mentality, 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: but it's some modern day dogs of war. 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: I said this on the show last night. 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: It's not like a big pack that's going to intimidate 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: with their size and power and really burning up. 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: It's just a fast moving pack of hyaenas. They're all 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: over you. 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: And the players are listening to their coach because at 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: halftime against the Knights, Cameron Cerrella said they wanted to 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: play more direct and get in the long game. Reed 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: Marney comes out, kicks early. In the first set, they 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: chased down, they score two tries through the middle. Reed 40 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: Marty was the key that second half when your team 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: is sort of wondering which style to play, if you 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: kick early, it forces everyone to kick chain it almost 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: gets them if anyone was hesitating. The early kicked forced 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: Dogs into the hard parts of the game, and it's 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: like it's like Newcastle were playing in a confined space. 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: Things changed pretty quy apressive. 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: Like you look at the start of the season, Dogs 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: for top four. 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: That five dollars. 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: I mean talking a lot about gam but it's just 51 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: it's symbolic of where they sit. 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 4: I think we said about the Dogs that the only 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 4: thing is can those players that had the best year 54 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: of their career go again? 55 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 56 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: The answer to that is yes they can't. 57 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: Yes, Well shows that the desire in the team because 58 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: that a really good win two weeks ago against the 59 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: Sharks and they were just all over them, beat them 60 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: with aggression and after the game they were really sort 61 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: of up on their taes and celebrated and I thought themselves. 62 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: Can take a little bit for them to get back 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: to worth and go again. From that first set in 64 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: Newcastle where they swarmed all over them wasn't a problem. 65 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: You remember the Surrealdo was the architect of what Penrith 66 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 4: did for four years, called it five years, and he 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: took a little bit of blooding to get the Dogs 68 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 4: on the same page. But I'll tell you what, he 69 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: is one smart defensive coach because he's got history and 70 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: he's doing it now with a completely different group. 71 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: Well he's been out of Penrith now his third year 72 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: going in. But the effect of cameras eraldo in some 73 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: ways just seeing it now, Coop, because as you know, 74 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: like with a coach, he went in there and this 75 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: side has gone on to win all these titles. He he 76 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: was instrumental laying down those defensive principles and I think 77 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: we're just seeing now what a loss that has been. 78 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: Well, he hasn't had the influence on those two three 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: year players that have come to Penrith. There may be 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: the ones now that are sort of missing the mark 81 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: comes to defense Penrith. 82 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: As I said before, I haven't lost faith in Penrith. 83 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: In mind, They've just going to make the eight. 84 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: They make the eight. 85 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeh, yeah, they make the eight. 86 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: They win games when it's important, and they started the 87 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: season a little bit slow. 88 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: But you know they're going for five in a row. 89 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: They've got to be some effect once the season starts 90 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: to take form. 91 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm so confident that they're going to pick up. 92 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: Combinations will start to form. 93 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: What do you thinks contribute to where they're at the 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: moment terms of playing away from home? 95 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: Thing is it's a big one. 96 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, as you know me going out to Penwrith Park 97 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: Pendoth Park, it's a furnace, hard played, hard place to win. 98 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: They run on the field. Hell's bells. 99 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: It's like close in huge crowds all the time. 100 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: I think pen have always had. They went in Vegas 101 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: at the start of the year. They can win it 102 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: a call that they can win anywhere. But there's one 103 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: thing that's hurting Penrith at the moment in our game. 104 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: We're all cheap. We follow trends, right. Penrith with their 105 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: attack have been turning a lot of players back underneath. 106 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 4: And the reason they've been doing that is to find 107 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: that pocket of space just near the ruck where defenders 108 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: don't come up, and they had a lot of success, 109 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 4: and then other teams are now copycating that approach and 110 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: whenever are teams of training. Now they're practicing against that 111 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: drop off play back to the ruck. And I'm finding 112 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: now when Penrith are doing that, coaches are saying instead 113 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: of the first or second defender off the ruck coming 114 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 4: up and going sideways straight away, what coaches are saying 115 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 4: to because they're going to drop the player back underneath, 116 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: go forward. 117 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: Yes. 118 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: So when Nathan Clear would run across the field a 119 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: couple of years ago, there would be a pocketive space 120 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: back near the ruck where that drop off player would 121 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: come through it chasing him and now when he does 122 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: that drop off play, those first and second defenders are 123 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 4: going forward first, closing off the space and they're not 124 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: getting that forward momentum from that play. 125 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 126 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: A little later, we're going to try Casey McClain's shared 127 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: on the weekend, which shows the effect of that, because 128 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: if you're not chasing from the inside and you're going straight, 129 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: that can leave you vunderable on the edge, and you 130 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: see he took advantage of that over the course of 131 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: the weekend. It's interesting about combat coops, right. 132 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: And it is a fact that there's no doubt about it, 133 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: but it's not an excuse. 134 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: Paramatta they shared Belmore Oval for a number of years 135 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: with the Bulldogs. 136 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: They both played out of Bellmore. When after the eighty 137 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: one Grand Final they burnt. 138 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Cumberlan Oval to the ground because that's what you do 139 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: when you win a camp. 140 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: He just straight to the ground and and they're building 141 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: param in a stadium again and so they had to 142 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: play to Belmore. 143 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: They won eighty three. You're still able to get it done. 144 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: I think Penrith. 145 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: There's not necessarily one thing that's happening with there's a 146 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: lot of little things, and they've doubled down in Nathan Cleary, 147 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: Isaiah oh and Edwards, and when Edwards misses or when 148 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: Nathan misses, there's just another bit of lag that they 149 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: have to pick up. But I'm with you. I think 150 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: once they get sort of sort of eight ten weeks 151 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 4: in and Ivan gets control of those fundamentals that have 152 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 4: made Pendrith great and their list is healthy, there's just 153 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: a bit of pressure on Nathan. Hard to say, one 154 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: of the best players the game is pressure, but if 155 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: he's unhealthy for a big chunk, that's going to hurt them. 156 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: Well, great players put pressure on themselves, so they coops 157 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: for all instance. We looked from the outside and said, 158 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: I yeah, it's I'll be okay. But for him, within him, 159 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: you can imagine he's out there today doing extras getting. 160 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: Himself back on top. Well under paramatter. 161 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: We said before that how hard they've been defending, how 162 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: hard they've been trying, that they're going to get They're 163 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: going to get their reward, and they got it a 164 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: great signing from him going to be Dylan Walker. Like 165 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: I thought I thought yesterday they were struggling. Their attack 166 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: was clunky when he came on the field operating, you know, 167 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: through through that center. 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: You saw that the change immediately. Let's have a quick look. 169 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: He's first set of six. 170 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: How he comes on the field and straight away you 171 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: see the fact. Almost immediately the tempa picked up because 172 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: he's got this great he's got a great run threat. 173 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: He's at his past decision is very very good, and 174 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: this was this He is going to be invaluable for 175 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 3: Dylan Brown and Dan Hawkins and Mitch Moses when he 176 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: comes back and in this result end up getting a 177 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: try in the left hand corner and Dylan Brown no coincidence. 178 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: When Dylan Walker came on the field, suddenly Dylan Brown 179 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: started to find his best football. 180 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: I agree. 181 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: I think sometimes when you don't have dominant traditional ballplayers, 182 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: ballplaying thirteen can help ease the load a little bit. 183 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: Learn a little bit about Dylan Brown in this period 184 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: that when he's first receiver, he's very square and runs 185 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 4: the football, which is effective at when he gets it together. 186 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 4: When he starts going sideways, it doesn't work for him. 187 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 4: But when he's out at the back of shape and 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: Walker's that first key, then he's naturally. Moving on to 189 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: forty five, he looks more comfortable, whereas I don't think 190 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: Mitch Moses needs Dylan Walker, but it would help, there's 191 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 4: no doubt. But I don't think Mitch Moses needs a 192 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: ballplayer middle to control the way that he plays, because 193 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: it comes to him quite naturally. 194 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: That they certainly need him. Now, yes, you can see 195 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: the difference. 196 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: Dean Hawkins, we had a little discussion about this where 197 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: we're disagreeing on this one slightly. I haven't seen a 198 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: bloke really soon a bloke hit a ball so. 199 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: Sweetly as Dean Hawkins. But you're saying, but it is 200 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: an unusual drop. 201 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: It's not the results. It's the unnecessary movement of the 202 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: hand that I feel like could be tweaked. But he's 203 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: kicking the ball well, so don't change it. It's a 204 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: little bit like if your analogy is the Gulf Swing, 205 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: it's a bit like Jim Firick. 206 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: You know Jim Ferick, don't. 207 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: You wouldn't know if he popped up in the seed. 208 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: So there's just a little bit the wrist there. He 209 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: just moves the ball slightly, but he's got good purchase 210 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: on it. So I understand where you're coming from there. 211 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: But just one thing to tweak up the technique a 212 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 4: little bit, but done a good job. 213 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: Cowboys last two weeks they've got the balance right in 214 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: their football, you know, pouring more energy into their defense, 215 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: making less errors an attack. And then I starting to 216 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: get back towards his to his true form what we expect. 217 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: Of the Cowboys are so hard to get a good 218 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: read on. Like when they're bad, they're bad. When they're good, 219 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 4: they are good. And it seems to be when they 220 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: have a physical mindset and the defenses right, everything else 221 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: just comes off the back of it. 222 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: There was just I like that. 223 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: I haven't seen this from Peneith for a long time, 224 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: but they were just there gaps through their defensive line, 225 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 4: and the Cowboys took advantage of it. Like perdue drink 226 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: water there is robson, it just went. I think they 227 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: were very direct in the way they played and it 228 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: helped them. 229 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we said before about the case of McClain try 230 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: and I'm using this as an example. 231 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking at and I've sort of just come across this. 232 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: I saw this play the other day Penrith in the 233 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: last thirty months, and some of the plays and sequences 234 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: so similar to the two thousand and five West Tigers 235 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: and the fact that Nathan, and this is really interesting 236 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: you said that before, is the fact that they're not 237 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: solving the problem from the inside. They're not chasing him hard. 238 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: But again that leaves you vulnerable. And this is a 239 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: great way to street shorter defense. You see him there 240 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: like he's says, tripped for short by that. 241 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's beautiful ballplaying. Some good halfbacks like Benji and 242 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: Sean have done it before. When you hide that ball, 243 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 4: that angle of Clifford just lost track of the ball. 244 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 4: Benjam Marshall one of the best, and I can see 245 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: it like the double show and keep going can strip 246 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 4: you defensively, but got to be careful once you start 247 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: going two sideways called often you are losing a lot 248 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: of full momentum. 249 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: I think you, I think are training. When you see 250 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 3: teams start to playmakers start to do a lot of that, 251 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: it's so easy to get into that algorithm and start 252 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: doing I think you're training. It's important that you sort 253 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: of level it up with nice straight football. 254 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 255 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: We saw Adam Reynolds last week do the double drop 256 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: off with good tempo and hiding changing his speed. 257 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: But you can't do double. 258 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: Drop off for double drop off for double drop off, 259 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: if that makes sense. Yes, there needs to be a 260 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: variation of like like anything it's good. 261 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: About exception made some good old fashioned trains body. We're 262 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: going to do a little bit here, old school playmaking. 263 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: Been talking about this. We spoke about last year Sean 264 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: Johnson going up getting your target defender and then just 265 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: delaying an extra half a second, which makes it so 266 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: hard for a defender who's trying to make a decision. 267 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: That half a second probably feels like half an hour. 268 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 3: You see that just and it's just minuscule, just that 269 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 3: little weight and hit short and there's a couple of 270 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: players doing it really good at the moment without making 271 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: a Nathan Cleary fest. You know, I've been watching him 272 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: a little bit. There's been a little change in how 273 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: he played ball. Plays see that there like nice little 274 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: clever ball, but he's having a long look at the 275 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: at the short play. Does one here in a second 276 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: McLean's it is a little bit late on the play. 277 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: But again the lake mate, we showed isaakatoa last week. 278 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: He does it. 279 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 3: He's just I reckon, he's the best in the league 280 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: doing it at the moment. Going up to Jason Smith pause, 281 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: hit short. 282 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 4: The principles of it are basically going fast to slow. 283 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: So if you get your target defender as quickly as 284 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: you can and then you slow up when you get 285 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: in the eye line like this, paint Hass tends to 286 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: lean in when he doesn't have to. But if Carto 287 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: just went at the same speed, I'm pretty sure painehas 288 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: would slide off. Yes, evolved, because you go fast, you 289 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: get in his eyesight, then you stop and lean in. 290 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 4: That pause, as you said, makes a defender lunch and 291 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: it creates that. 292 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: It's almost like they could reach out and grab it. 293 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 4: A little bit of bait to a defender that wants 294 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: to go. But and then you just delay the past. 295 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: Another example here the first try from the Titans on 296 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 3: the weekend. You watch Jaden Campbell and this is just 297 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: just a tiny little adjustment here. What's this catches warp 298 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: and you see Herbie. Herby's going to slide when you 299 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: see the other angle, it's going to slide on it. 300 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: And last second, that tiny little pause, mate, Herbie bites 301 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: that's in your see it here again. 302 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: Wait, I'm going to slide. No, No, he's just paused 303 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: on a. 304 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: Little double pump at the same time. Yeah, good ballplayer 305 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: from jading Cami. I think, while we're on the train 306 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: spotting thing, what about Sharks first Raiders the last minute. 307 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Finish of the game. Enjoy? What about Ricky jumping up 308 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: and down? 309 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: The press conference could have been very different. 310 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: Here's one for the people out there. So I think 311 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: it's trindle of the Sharks. They did the right thing, 312 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: But I'm actually going to argue that there's something better 313 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 4: you could do here. Ran the ball into the corner, 314 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: put it in a position where it takes them absolutely 315 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: long way of scoring that trying the match winn play 316 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: for a minute and a half. What the Sharks do 317 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: is they run the ball and get tackled. That is 318 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: tackle zero, right. What I'm saying is maybe Trindle gets 319 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: it and puts in a little grubber kick, lets the 320 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: Raiders dive on it, jumps on him, tackle one, he 321 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: goes down, The Raiders go down the field, and they 322 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: score on the fifth play. So what we're saying is 323 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 4: actually on they have the four plays and they're fifteen 324 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: meters further away from the try line. So yes, it's 325 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: the right play to run in the course of high 326 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: percentage one. But when it's down to that time on 327 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: the clock. Take an extra tackle, do the little kick 328 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: and actually dive on them for tackle one. 329 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Because we don't think about that that's been attacked. It 330 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: now where teams rather than risk the seven tackles is 331 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: just sort of wander over. 332 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: But you're right your hand them an extra tackle. 333 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: I'm not saying kick it for a repeat set. I'm 334 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 4: literally just kick it a meter in front, like in 335 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: the corner. Let them dive attack, jump on the other one. 336 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: Where do you think South Sydney make the Joe Gray 337 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: full back Latrell left center work beautifully. A lot of 338 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: injuries meant Latrell had to get up a little bit 339 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: of playmaking in the halves. 340 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: It was jeez. I thought they were I thought they're fantastic. 341 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: One of the better wins South with the carnage that 342 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: came into the team plays out of position. Sullivan came 343 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: in with that. Sean go, Yeah, he did a good job. 344 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: I really like. 345 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: What Wayne did. 346 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: A lot of people said that Latrell should be fullback, 347 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: but he's wholehearted. That Ji Gray wholehearted like he was 348 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: so good and well Latrell he probably will be moved 349 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: back to fullback at some stage when they get at 350 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: the trucks. But I'll tell you what Latrell stood up 351 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: in that moment they needed. But Ji Gray was tremendous. 352 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: Joey, I'll ask you this, Coops. We've spoken on this 353 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: a couple of times. The speed of the rucks now, 354 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 3: the speed of the game, the vulnerability that sits in 355 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: the middle of the field. I think this and what 356 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: we've seen in turn is the smaller, diminutive fullback starting 357 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: to become in vague as opposed to the Gi Latrell, 358 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: big powerful one. It's like the smaller blokes at the 359 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: moment seem to be a lot more effective through that 360 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: middle field. 361 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's pros and cons. Look, you get the best 362 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: player for the best position. I think Jie Gray. Look, 363 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: if you're trying to pros and cons of it all, 364 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: the guy is energetic, he's great, He'll run for twenty 365 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: carriers and won't shirk his responsibility. But if you were 366 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: to isolate him ten meters off the line off a 367 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 4: high kick and have Tom Travoyvich come through, Tom's jumping 368 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: over the top, yep, right, the Trell Mitchell is powerful 369 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: one on one like he will beat you. But if 370 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 4: you keep the ball in play for long periods against 371 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: Latrell and move it left to right while he's at fullback, 372 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: you will catch him out at some. 373 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: State, make him unnecessary running. 374 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's no doubt that's our game is brutal, 375 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 4: but our game can be a game of chess as well, 376 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: when you start working through x's and o's. 377 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: I tell you, I think about saus Coops. 378 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: We said before one of the things that is cup 379 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: to their good starts that he has been the young 380 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: guys coming in and elevating themselves. Jamie Humphreys perfect example. 381 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: Liam LeBlanc has been good. Tell us Duncan now is 382 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: getting back to his best form. But a young bloke 383 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: he he brought well, he's not so much a young. 384 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: Guy, but the guy brought from the Dolphins. Lachlan Hubner, 385 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: he played third on the weekend. He's fantastic. 386 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, workaholic, physical, He's got that sort of Wayne's always 387 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: had that sort of protective middle four that just works 388 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 4: at Plath at the Dolphins. Tony Carroll the Broncos and 389 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: fits that mild whatever than they. 390 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: Do with the harps Coops. 391 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: So, Bud Sullivan, you think that Jaden Sullivan are going 392 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: to seven give them. 393 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: What he did? What about what about six? 394 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: I mean does lewid Is Lewis Dodd back playing at 395 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: the moment might get his chance? He could be or 396 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: do you think that would you look together Latrell in 397 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: a six. 398 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: I'd put Latrell at six because the way you keep 399 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: Joe Gray and the team is you have to find 400 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 4: a spot for Latrell. Now when the game is an 401 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: balance against the roosters, Latrell moved to five eight. He 402 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: was defending the centers but played as a five eight. 403 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: And if Latrell, say plays full back, or let's say 404 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 4: he's plays centers and touches ball ten times, he will 405 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: do something let's say six times out of ten. If 406 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: you give him thirty touches at five eight, you're going 407 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 4: to double his input. So I would I would move 408 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: la Trail to five eight. I think it's a good 409 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 4: way of getting the Trell more responsibility, keeping Jie Gray 410 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 4: in the team and getting him to have an impact 411 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: on the contest. 412 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: We've spoke a lot about Dally tree Evans and the 413 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: Melbourn's your old mo mate. 414 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: The Melbourne Storm was just were incredible. 415 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, they say face at the end there, 416 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 3: mainly those three JASP because it was on the way 417 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 3: to be at least sixty points. 418 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: Melbourne Storm flew out of the blocks, mainly wrestled a 419 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 4: little bit back and then Melbourne just with class at 420 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: accelera and we sort of sat here with the DC 421 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: sort of noise and things like that. If I was 422 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 4: a prospective buyer in this situation, sit back and see 423 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: how this unfolded. Four to six weeks mainly played paramatter 424 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 4: or due respect to Para. 425 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: They were at the class. 426 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: Of Melbourne, obvious, and we're going to find out if 427 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: Daly's got the ability to handle what's going on personally. 428 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: Galvani as a group that we've said has the potential 429 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: to be top four and win more games. They played 430 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: at home where they are ten to twelve point different 431 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: team and got beaten, comprehensive belted. So I think there's 432 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: still some stuff to play out on the impact of 433 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 4: what Daily's doing at the moment, and we're about to 434 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: find out. 435 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: We're about to find out big time. 436 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: And we said, we spoke, we've spoken about the importance 437 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: of pure sevens, experienced playmaker, you know, as far as 438 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: the Dali manly situation and were critical of the fact 439 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: that you didn't get off of the contract, so on 440 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: and so forth. But the Broncos what separated West Tiger's 441 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: with our Jerome Lewe really had a dig Ultimately, in 442 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 3: my opinion, the thing that separated both sides were Adam 443 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: Reynolds spent hunt, the experienced playmakers. 444 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 445 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: I think the Tigers tried hard and came up with 446 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 4: a game plan early on to try and score tries 447 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 4: off kicks, and Luckie Galvin got amongst it. But then 448 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 4: once the heat game, the senior playmakers took control of that. 449 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: Adam Reynolds was a two point field goal before halftime, 450 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: then the chip and chase straight afterwards, and. 451 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: Just one of his best, one of his best in 452 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: Broncos Jersey mate Dolphins from my Queensland sides did a 453 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: lot of similarities. I thought the way the Dolphins played 454 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: to the way that the Warriors adjusted their football Vegas 455 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: Warriors in Vegas pushing the ball to sideways and necessarily 456 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: trying to always get their attack on though to formulated 457 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: they scale things back, they'd wagh Egan more the focal point. 458 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: The has played more of a running game, and I've 459 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: got to say I thought the Dolphins were just about 460 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: where it was almost like same game plan. Well it 461 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been the exact same, but you know the 462 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: same principles. During Marshall, Key more involved kato a more 463 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 3: running than passing. 464 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 4: This week you have Christian Wolf a rap here because cool, 465 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: it's going to a first year coach, because he is, 466 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 4: but he's done it in Ellen's before coach Owen four 467 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: to start the season, there was an error confidence about 468 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 4: the Dolphins before that game. We spoke to him and 469 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 4: he spoke about just doing the same thing but being 470 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 4: more diligent, being more aggressive, and we spoke about how 471 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 4: the spine of the Dolphins cart I I'll get to 472 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 4: tick because we've mentioned some of his ball playing contribution 473 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 4: the sign but the rest of them haven't really had 474 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: an impact. 475 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Like Hammer very quiet. 476 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: Cody had a great year last year, but it hasn't 477 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: hit the scoreboard as much. But the forwards started to 478 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 4: dominate the ruck the Dolphins I'm talking about, and the 479 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: spine played their best game this year. I think Christian 480 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: Wolf deserves a lot of creditsuse I think a lot 481 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: of coaches might have pulled the trigger on a change 482 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: or started sort of talking with a little bit more 483 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: pressure in the way they spoke to the media. But 484 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 4: he handled himself very well and it was a big 485 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: part of their first victory. And I thought the spine went. 486 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: Thrific, really really goods. Just to finish with I just 487 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: I mentioned this on the show last night. It was 488 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: terrible news come through Malcolm. Really, who's you. 489 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: Don't get many bigger legends on the game than Malcolm 490 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: diagnosed cancer the spinal cord, so he's you know, he's 491 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: got a fight ahead of him. But said last night, 492 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: if you want a bloke who may can get through 493 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 3: the is, it's Malcolm Coops. I've never met a more 494 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: mentally tough man in my life. And yeah, maybe we 495 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: send our best to Malcolm and the. 496 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: Family and a lot of love from Al had this 497 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Thanks man, mm hmmmmm