WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 30 January

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<v Speaker 1>Lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome the late base.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for joining us. It's great to have your company.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm James Macpherson with Liz Staurer and Caleb Bond coming

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<v Speaker 4>up tonight. You'd be aware Donald Trump has been issuing

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of executive orders this week, but we'll show

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<v Speaker 4>you one a little later that nobody, I mean nobody

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<v Speaker 4>was expecting. Plus when we get to the papers, a

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<v Speaker 4>former army chief says declining national pride is the reason

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<v Speaker 4>the ADF can't recruit people as soldiers, and in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 4>rock climbing has been banned because it's a form of colonialism.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get to all of that when we look at

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<v Speaker 4>what's making news tomorrow, but first, the Northern Territory government

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<v Speaker 4>has ordered that gay pride flags be removed from outside

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<v Speaker 4>public hospitals. Rainbow flags were taken down from outside the

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<v Speaker 4>Royal Darwin Hospital on Tuesday, with the government spokesperson saying

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<v Speaker 4>the flags were not compliant with protocol, which I think

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<v Speaker 4>makes a lot of sense, particularly when you consider the

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<v Speaker 4>debate right now about transgender and the treatment of young

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<v Speaker 4>people with gender dysphoria. Probably doesn't make sense to have

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<v Speaker 4>a trans flag outside a public hospital. The thing that

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<v Speaker 4>really got my attention though with this story, and we'll

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<v Speaker 4>talk about whether or not it's fairer to remove the

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<v Speaker 4>flags in a second, But the reaction was quite astonishing.

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<v Speaker 4>Members of Northern Territory Health spoke anonymously to the local

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<v Speaker 4>paper saying they were shocked and disappointed that the flags

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<v Speaker 4>had been removed, with one new Northern Territory Health worker

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<v Speaker 4>saying the flag it's what it symbolizes. We pride ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>that good inclusive healthcare is for everyone. It's a marker

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<v Speaker 4>of safety, so staff and patience can feel comfort, as

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<v Speaker 4>if to say that they weren't already providing top quality

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<v Speaker 4>care for homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, two spirit gender queer people

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<v Speaker 4>before the flags were erected, and one staff member actually

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<v Speaker 4>told the NT time quote, can I continue working or

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<v Speaker 4>is this no longer.

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<v Speaker 3>A safe space for me?

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<v Speaker 4>The people reported It's true, Liz, numbers of staff members

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<v Speaker 4>are reconsidering whether or not they should remain a part

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<v Speaker 4>of Northern Territory Health if the flag is not going

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<v Speaker 4>to fly.

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<v Speaker 3>But the thing that really got me was the.

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<v Speaker 4>Labor opposition leader who is the former health minister, criticizing

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<v Speaker 4>the Conservatives for removing the flag, saying what with all

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<v Speaker 4>the problems we've got in the Northern Territory, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a priority getting rid of flags, neglecting to mention with

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<v Speaker 4>all the problems in the Northern Territory under the Labor government,

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<v Speaker 4>their priority was erecting the flags. This is typically what

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<v Speaker 4>the progressive left do, isn't it, Caleb. They attack the

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<v Speaker 4>culture and then the moment we say well, actually we'd

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<v Speaker 4>like our culture back, they say, oh, you're all about

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<v Speaker 4>the culture wars. They start it and then they get

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<v Speaker 4>upset with you when you try and correct it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good little trick, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>And look, I'd like to say, well you used to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to say that it works every time it It

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't work anymore, which is great. It doesn't work anymore

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<v Speaker 5>because we've got Trump back in the US. Woke is

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<v Speaker 5>dead in Australia. We're slowly turning all of these things around, right,

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<v Speaker 5>And the protocol in the Northern Territory is very clear

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<v Speaker 5>that it is standard that out the front of government

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<v Speaker 5>buildings you have the Australian flag, the Northern Territory flag

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<v Speaker 5>and the Aboriginal flag. That's the three flags that the

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<v Speaker 5>Northern Territory government officially says they should be flying.

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<v Speaker 2>So why were they flying these in the first place.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, apparently it's because it was written down and I'll

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<v Speaker 5>get this right, because you know, you wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>mack these things up. The NT government's Gender Equity Action

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<v Speaker 5>Plan twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five said how

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<v Speaker 5>great it was to fly these things out the front

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<v Speaker 5>of hospitals, and so they started doing it, and now

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<v Speaker 5>you've got these allegations. As you mentioned before, James of

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<v Speaker 5>staff saying, oh, I don't know whether I can continue

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<v Speaker 5>to work here because it's safe. One staff member told

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<v Speaker 5>the NT News that you know the reason they were

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<v Speaker 5>there and what was so great about it is that

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<v Speaker 5>it said that it was a safe place for gay

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<v Speaker 5>and lesbie and transgender and whatever other people to come to.

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<v Speaker 2>And they went on to say, is healthcare not for everyone? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah it is. Because there's a flag at the front.

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<v Speaker 2>You might not have noticed it, the Australian flag.

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<v Speaker 5>And would you believe it? All the people and this

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<v Speaker 5>is crazy. I only learned this today. All the people

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<v Speaker 5>who live in Australia live under the Australian flag.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you've got the Australian flag there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's saying this is a hospital where people in Australia

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<v Speaker 5>can go for healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>What an extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 5>Incredible, isn't I mean the suggestion that it is somehow

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<v Speaker 5>exclusive to say that we're not going to fly what

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<v Speaker 5>is an exclusive flag because it's only for a very

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<v Speaker 5>small portion of the Australian population is absolutely absurd.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's fly nobody's flag and call it even because I

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<v Speaker 6>don't get a flag either, so that's true equality.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's no, we get a flag.

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<v Speaker 6>We literally went from being like, oh, now we have

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<v Speaker 6>these flags that represent these movements to unless this flag

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<v Speaker 6>is visible, people are not comfortable in their workplaces. Oh

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<v Speaker 6>is this unsafe for me? I don't want to work

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<v Speaker 6>here anymore. I thought that we were welcome here and

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<v Speaker 6>now we're not because you're not flying our flag. No,

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<v Speaker 6>we're not flying anybody's flag unless it's the Australian flag,

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<v Speaker 6>which means it applies to everyone. That's fair, but massive

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<v Speaker 6>kudos to the Health minister in the Northern Territory who

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<v Speaker 6>could have easily just been browbeaten into being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's what the policy says, so I'll just change the

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<v Speaker 6>policy and you guys can keep your flags up.

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<v Speaker 7>Nah been the flags? Get them out of here.

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<v Speaker 6>Someone's brought it to my attention. This isn't the policy.

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<v Speaker 6>Get them out. And I want to see a lot

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<v Speaker 6>more from Dutton on this because it is literally made

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<v Speaker 6>me inwardly requiggle that we are giving this man so

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<v Speaker 6>much credit and sure it's better than nothing for uniting

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<v Speaker 6>us under one flag and saying, you know what, We're

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<v Speaker 6>just going to fly the Australian flag. Now he hasn't

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<v Speaker 6>gone full Trump and issued an edict that at all

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<v Speaker 6>government buildings you can only fly the Australian flag. That's

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<v Speaker 6>what he should do next. But come on, like, go

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<v Speaker 6>harder than that. I love the window dressing. We need

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<v Speaker 6>window dressing. The symbolism is important, but this is something

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<v Speaker 6>that we need in place across all government agencies, be

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<v Speaker 6>it education or health. This should just be the plain rules.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you said, Caleb, this is a very exclusive flag

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<v Speaker 6>representing a very small minority. Why do we have to

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<v Speaker 6>emblaze in it everywhere? It's part of the indoctrination process

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<v Speaker 6>and the vast majority of Australians say no, thanks, get

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<v Speaker 6>it out of my face.

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<v Speaker 4>Well we'll talk later about prominent Australians calling for and

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<v Speaker 4>am inquiring too the way we treat kids with gender

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<v Speaker 4>disc Laarrior. It's a letter to Albanezi, but Dutton has

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<v Speaker 4>been c seed in on that and that would be

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<v Speaker 4>a good thing for him to take up. We often

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<v Speaker 4>talk on this program about the madness of local councils

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<v Speaker 4>and we've got a beauty for you tonight. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>council in Adelaide that is so bad. The culture is

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<v Speaker 4>so toxic. Every single council member has been told they

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<v Speaker 4>must do behavioral training.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>All of this began because one council member, Jane Davey,

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<v Speaker 4>was continually reported for bullying. It got to a point

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<v Speaker 4>where she was told she would have to sit at

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<v Speaker 4>Southside Primary School, she would have to sit in council

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<v Speaker 4>meetings next to the chief executive to make sure behave

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<v Speaker 4>She behaved, and she was banned from directly commenting, questioning,

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<v Speaker 4>or requesting anything from another particular council colleague. In fact,

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<v Speaker 4>she was banned from making any nonverbal communications with this

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<v Speaker 4>other council member. So an independent law firm was bought

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<v Speaker 4>in to investigate claims of bullying by Jane Davey, and

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<v Speaker 4>they found that the bullying was not just confined to

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<v Speaker 4>one person, but it was rife throughout the entire council.

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<v Speaker 4>The Burnside Council was full of council members spreading rumors

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<v Speaker 4>about each other, mocking each other, publicly criticizing each other's work, ethic,

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<v Speaker 4>and making angry outbursts. The whole council was toxic and

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<v Speaker 4>so they've all been sent for behavioral training. The report

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<v Speaker 4>says that independent findings by spark Herlmoyl lawyers found Burnside

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<v Speaker 4>Council was besieged by a culture of bullies who victimize

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<v Speaker 4>colleagues who speak up about inappropriate behavior. The lawyers said

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<v Speaker 4>all Burnside counselors should have additional behavioral training by a

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<v Speaker 4>senior external expert, including potential consequences for counselors who breach

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<v Speaker 4>behavioral standards.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the part I loved.

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<v Speaker 4>Counselors will now be forced to have more behavioral training

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<v Speaker 4>to learn about. This is what our local government members

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<v Speaker 4>need to learn about values, ethics, leadership skills, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is my favorite part. They need to learn how to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to each other. And of course, who do you

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<v Speaker 4>reckon is paying for these people? To learn to act

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<v Speaker 4>like adults, Liz, the right players.

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<v Speaker 6>The ratepayers, I mean, I'm sure it's worth every penny, right,

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<v Speaker 6>we all want cohesive counsels.

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<v Speaker 7>This is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 8>The fact that they referred to that there.

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<v Speaker 6>As potential consequences for counselors who break the code of conduct.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, where are they they've broken.

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<v Speaker 7>The code of contact. Where are the consequences? They clearly

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<v Speaker 7>are none.

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<v Speaker 6>So why you're holding a workshop to tell them about

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<v Speaker 6>potential consequences when they've already done the action that you

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<v Speaker 6>say there are consequences for, But they're not suffering anything

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<v Speaker 6>other than sitting through a behavioral workshop for crying out loud.

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<v Speaker 7>This is embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>Go, can I just mention something? I forgot to mention this.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a behavioral workshop and one council member made

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<v Speaker 4>a colleague cry in the behavioral workshop, So now they've

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<v Speaker 4>all been said.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, And that person was Jane Davy, who has

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<v Speaker 5>been the subject which was apparently her fourth breage.

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<v Speaker 2>And I should note here that I know Jane Davey.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't spoken to her for the better part of

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<v Speaker 5>five or six years, but in my dealings with her

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<v Speaker 5>back in Adelaide, I find it hard to believe that

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<v Speaker 5>she would do something like this. It doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 5>the Jane Davy I know. And the counselor who she

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<v Speaker 5>allegedly left in tears is the wife of someone I

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<v Speaker 5>already know. So I'm just declaring all of that stuff there,

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<v Speaker 5>But just what we're talking about South Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I talk about this, I just want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Note that I think all hospitals should have the South

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<v Speaker 5>Australian flag flying out the front, because as a South

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<v Speaker 5>Australian I don't feel included if I go to a

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<v Speaker 5>hospital here in New South Wales and my flag isn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to put that on the books.

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<v Speaker 5>But seriously, the idea that counselors need to be taught

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<v Speaker 5>how to talk to each other and things like values

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<v Speaker 5>and ethics and leadership skills, I mean, you put your

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<v Speaker 5>hand up for the job, right you say I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a counselor.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's not great pay.

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<v Speaker 5>Most of them have another job to do, unless, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>you're in Brisbane where they do it how I think

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<v Speaker 5>it should be done. They have large councils, councilors of

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<v Speaker 5>full time. They essentially have portfolios. They actually have stuff

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<v Speaker 5>to do, the genuine politicians instead of these timpot little

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<v Speaker 5>fiddlers who get around around the councilors all around the country.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>There is such a small gene pool from which these

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<v Speaker 5>people are drawn. So many of them are just neighborhood

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<v Speaker 5>busybodies who've got nothing better to do. And they go, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I've got some ideas about how this should

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<v Speaker 5>be done, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They put their hand up.

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<v Speaker 5>They get elected on three hundred votes because nobody votes

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<v Speaker 5>for them, and then they go and lo and behold.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know how to behave.

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<v Speaker 5>If you can't go to a meeting and behave like

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<v Speaker 5>an adult, you shouldn't be there in the first place.

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<v Speaker 5>And I implore you if you are in a state

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<v Speaker 5>like South Australia where voting is not compulsory in council elections,

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<v Speaker 5>please start voting because we have to get rid of

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<v Speaker 5>these people. We are paying for it. You're paying the rates.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't get any choice in that matter. You had

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<v Speaker 5>to pay the rates. So for goodness sake, let's get

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<v Speaker 5>some better quality. While we're talking about councils in Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 5>only council has done what seems to be the move

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<v Speaker 5>de jure at the moment, which is to reduce speed limits.

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<v Speaker 5>You love it when you see these stories, don't you

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<v Speaker 5>If they could just find a way to make it

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<v Speaker 5>a little harder to get around our cities.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the councils know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Only road in Adelaide, and those in Adelaide will know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm talking about, but those in other parts of

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<v Speaker 5>the country. Is an arterial road, a major arterial road

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<v Speaker 5>that goes directly into the city. Thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 5>people drive on it every day to go to work,

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<v Speaker 5>and they drive back out on it at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of the day to go home. And so the only

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<v Speaker 5>councilors had the bright idea to change the speed limit

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<v Speaker 5>from sixty to fifty because, according to the mayor, they

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<v Speaker 5>want a gentler pace through the air, nice little village.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a road people used to get in and

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<v Speaker 5>out of the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Bagging your gentler pace.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't need to lower the speed limit by ten

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<v Speaker 5>kilometers just so you can have a quote unquote gentler pace.

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<v Speaker 2>We just want to get.

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<v Speaker 5>To work and we just want to go home, and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe we'll stop at one of the shops along the

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<v Speaker 5>way on this road.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is going on all over the shop.

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<v Speaker 5>You look at Melbourne, through Collingwood, Fitzroy, all those suburbs

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<v Speaker 5>north of Melbourne. Now some of the streets are thirty

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<v Speaker 5>kilometers an hour. They started at fifty and then they

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<v Speaker 5>made them forty. Now they've got some of them have

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<v Speaker 5>gone down to thirty. There are councils all over the

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<v Speaker 5>country continually are changing their backstreets from fifty to forty.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems to be.

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<v Speaker 5>A standard thing now because apparently it's much safer. And

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<v Speaker 5>now you've got a council doing it in Adelaide, where

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<v Speaker 5>an arterial road goes from sixty to fifty. It won't

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<v Speaker 5>be long before we see this all over the country

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<v Speaker 5>where councils will say, well, we've got to do it

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<v Speaker 5>in the name of safety, I've got to do it

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<v Speaker 5>in the name of cyclists or whatever it is. Sixty

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<v Speaker 5>will become fifty, and the difference between sixty and fifty

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<v Speaker 5>is quite literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten kilometers an hour.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you're talking about people driving home at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the day and they're tired and whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>one of the biggest killers on the road is fatigue

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<v Speaker 5>people who are tired, and if you make their trip longer,

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<v Speaker 5>you make it more likely that they're going to have

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<v Speaker 5>a crash. It doesn't make any sense. They hate cars

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<v Speaker 5>and this is why they do it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's only a matter of time before a council decrees

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<v Speaker 4>that every car must have a person walking in front

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<v Speaker 4>of it waving a red flag to warn pedestrians the

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<v Speaker 4>car is coming. I was reading the comments and the

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<v Speaker 4>Adelaide Advertiser on this story, and people were saying, what

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<v Speaker 4>speed limits now fifty kilometers an hour. That's faster than

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<v Speaker 4>we've ever gone on that road because it's so congested

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<v Speaker 4>with traffic. So they were quite excited, but they made

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<v Speaker 4>the point, why are they lowering the speed limit? No

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<v Speaker 4>one gets close to sixty kilometers an hour during the

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<v Speaker 4>day because the road is so busy, and when you're

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<v Speaker 4>driving home at three am and there's no traffic and

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<v Speaker 4>you could do sixty, you're only allowed to do fifty

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<v Speaker 4>kilometers now. But as you said, Caleb, the Advertiser reported

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<v Speaker 4>that there are ten side streets that counselor also considering

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<v Speaker 4>lowering the speed From it's already fifty, they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>lower it to forty in surrounding the seats.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is a perpetual thing where.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean eventually you'll have to get out and push

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<v Speaker 4>your car along because that'll be the only way to

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<v Speaker 4>ensure Psychestrians I.

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<v Speaker 6>Forget you on their way by I see you at work.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll be in twenty minutes earlier. It's getting ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 8>And who's a fan of this? Who living in their

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<v Speaker 8>councils who are doing this.

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<v Speaker 6>Is like, oh, thank god, bloody O if they're getting

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<v Speaker 6>my vote next time. Solid decision, newbody to the US.

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<v Speaker 6>Now where RFK Junior's confirmation hearing, we all know that

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<v Speaker 6>Trump's given in the gong to head up the DSS.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the Department of Health. This is going to

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<v Speaker 8>be massive.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, the MAGA campaign ran parallel with a MAHA campaign,

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<v Speaker 6>which was make America healthy again.

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<v Speaker 7>That is the edict that has.

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<v Speaker 6>Come from the top, and RFK Junior is the man

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<v Speaker 6>chosen to carry it out.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you, twenty twenty five is wild.

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<v Speaker 6>What we saw in these confirmation hearings is the Democrats

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<v Speaker 6>turning on a Kennedy Democrat who is being backed by

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<v Speaker 6>the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 7>The Republicans say, we want clean food.

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<v Speaker 6>All this GMO nonsense, the pesticides, the insecticides, the microplastics,

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<v Speaker 6>the forever chemicals poisoning our food supply.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't want any of that anymore. And we want

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<v Speaker 7>safe vaccines.

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<v Speaker 6>Not a high bar, you'd think, not a high bar,

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<v Speaker 6>But they are losing their minds. Check out Senator Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 6>Warren taking RFK to task, being like, how do we

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<v Speaker 6>know you're not going to make money out of this?

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<v Speaker 9>You've said that President Trump asks you to quote clean

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<v Speaker 9>up corruption and conflicts.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great.

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<v Speaker 9>You've said that you will quote slam shut the revolving

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<v Speaker 9>door between government agencies and the companies they regulate. That

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<v Speaker 9>also sounds great. So here's an easy question. Will you

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<v Speaker 9>commit that when you leave this job, you will not

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<v Speaker 9>accept compensation from a drug company, a medical device company,

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<v Speaker 9>a hospital system, or a health insurer for at least

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<v Speaker 9>four years, including as a lobbyist or a board member.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you just rebe the last part of the question,

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<v Speaker 1>I commit you're not.

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<v Speaker 9>Going to take money from drug companies in any way,

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<v Speaker 9>shape or who me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Having to commit to that good, That's what I figured.

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<v Speaker 9>I said, It's an easy question to start with and

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<v Speaker 9>I think you're right on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of them want to give me money.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, of course, RFK was openly trolling her then,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's on the public record that in one financial

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<v Speaker 6>year alone twenty nineteen to twenty twenty, she received over

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<v Speaker 6>eight hundred thousand dollars from Big Farmer. It's on the

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<v Speaker 6>public record the only Democrat senator who received more was

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<v Speaker 6>Bernie Sanders.

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<v Speaker 7>So she's sitting.

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<v Speaker 8>There with egg all over her face.

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<v Speaker 6>The absolute assumption she must have in people's stupidity when

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<v Speaker 6>she herself has done this four years, pocketing millions all

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<v Speaker 6>up from big Farmer companies while she represents their interests

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<v Speaker 6>in Parliament. But she's taking him to task on that

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<v Speaker 6>because she wouldn't want him to make any.

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<v Speaker 7>Money off it.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you saw that Senator Bernie Sanders took even more

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<v Speaker 6>money from Big Farmer than Elizabeth Warren one point four million, again,

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<v Speaker 6>just in one financial year alone. Well, he was all

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<v Speaker 6>also at the confirmation hearing today taking RFK to task

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<v Speaker 6>on making money off these onesies.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's a picture of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Now he has taken great umbradge to this because they're

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<v Speaker 6>made for babies by a company that RFK is affiliated with.

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<v Speaker 6>He's saying, how can you say that your provacs when

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<v Speaker 6>a company that you've been affiliated with in the past

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<v Speaker 6>is selling these onesies and making money off these onesies.

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<v Speaker 8>The exchange that ensued belongs in a zoom.

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<v Speaker 10>Can you tell us now that you will, now that

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<v Speaker 10>you are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your

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<v Speaker 10>organization take these products off the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator, I have no power over that organization. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard of that. I resigned from the board.

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<v Speaker 10>I was just a few months ago. You founded that.

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<v Speaker 10>You certainly have power you can make that. How are

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<v Speaker 10>you supportive of this? I have had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 10>with you supportive of these onesies?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm supportive of vaccines. Are you supportive of.

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<v Speaker 10>These this clothing which is militantly anti vaccine?

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<v Speaker 1>I am supportive of vaccines.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I want good science and I want to protect

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<v Speaker 11>But you will.

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<v Speaker 10>Not tell the organization you founded not to continue by

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<v Speaker 10>selling that product.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>As the chim God forbid.

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<v Speaker 6>Parents get to make their own calls regarding their own kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my gosh, mind blowing. They can't stand it. And

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<v Speaker 6>of course there was the eternal objection to rfk's existence,

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<v Speaker 6>that being from Senator Tillis saying, are you a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 6>there's your conspiracy theories, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's Irfk's brilliant response.

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<v Speaker 11>And labels applied to me because I said that the vaccines,

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<v Speaker 11>the COVID vaccine didn't prevent transmission and it wouldn't prevent

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<v Speaker 11>infaction when the government was telling people Americans that it would,

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<v Speaker 11>I was saying that because I was looking at the

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<v Speaker 11>monkeys studies. In May of twenty twenty, I was called

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<v Speaker 11>a conspira. Now everybody admits it. I was called a

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<v Speaker 11>conspiracy theorist because I said red dye caused cancer, and

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<v Speaker 11>now FDA has acknowledged that and bannit. I was called

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<v Speaker 11>a conspiracy theorist because I said lor I'd lowered IQ

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<v Speaker 11>as we Jama published a matter of view of eighty

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<v Speaker 11>seven studies saying that there's a direct inverse correlation between

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<v Speaker 11>IQ loss.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so I'm going to assume I can go.

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<v Speaker 1>On for about a week.

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<v Speaker 6>Senator Tillis was like, wait, wait, he's just using my

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<v Speaker 6>question to make himself sound good, all of which, as

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<v Speaker 6>you know, what he said is true.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's like, I could go on all week.

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<v Speaker 6>This man has spent a large portion of his life

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<v Speaker 6>suing these massive corporates, these behemoths for poisoning.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no other way to put it.

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<v Speaker 6>The food supply and other products that we use on

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<v Speaker 6>an everyday basis, rather in America. I wish we could

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<v Speaker 6>gloate him and have one here, but it with all

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<v Speaker 6>he could do to constantly during this confirmation hearing, keep

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<v Speaker 6>the main thing, the main thing.

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<v Speaker 11>There's no issue that she united more than this chronic

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<v Speaker 11>health epidemic. There's no such thing as Republican children or

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<v Speaker 11>Democratic children.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our kids. Sixty six percent of them are damaged.

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<v Speaker 11>I know what a healthy kid looks like because I

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<v Speaker 11>had so many of them in my family. I didn't

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<v Speaker 11>know anybody with a food allergy growing up, peanut allergy.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do five of my kids have allergies?

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<v Speaker 11>Why are we seeing these explosions and diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis,

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<v Speaker 11>neurological diseases, depression, all these things that are related to

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<v Speaker 11>toxic environment. Why can't we just agree with each other?

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<v Speaker 11>Put differences about so many issues, intractable issues, aside as

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<v Speaker 11>a we're going to end this.

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<v Speaker 7>We're gonna end this. I love this. This is what

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<v Speaker 7>is a nation without its health?

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<v Speaker 6>What is any individual on a daily basis? Your health

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<v Speaker 6>is the most valuable thing to you. These guys have

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<v Speaker 6>woken up to the fact there is poison. I watched

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<v Speaker 6>a video of RFK talking about mercury in fish and

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<v Speaker 6>mercury in the water supplies, and it was like over

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<v Speaker 6>ten years old, and he had sued the pants of

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<v Speaker 6>all these companies because he'd figured out the only place

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<v Speaker 6>in America where the fish weren't riddled with mercury something

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<v Speaker 6>else you can't get out of your system and it's

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<v Speaker 6>very bad for you, was Wyoming and there was a

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<v Speaker 6>whole story around it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's too long to go into.

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<v Speaker 6>But this guy has been doing this for so long

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<v Speaker 6>he is legitimately passionate about it, and he made the

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<v Speaker 6>point in these hearings today.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't have to do this.

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<v Speaker 6>I've got a great job, I've got a happy family,

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<v Speaker 6>I've got a great life. But I genuinely want to

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<v Speaker 6>see our children and American adults be far more healthier

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<v Speaker 6>than they are, rather than ingesting these poisons every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard this.

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<v Speaker 5>It was actually in an ad today. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 5>to provide any extra advertisement.

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<v Speaker 2>To the company. But I thought the saying was great.

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<v Speaker 5>It was if you allow yourself the time for good health,

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<v Speaker 5>the good health will allow you to have a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually a really.

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<v Speaker 2>Good way of pulling it, isn't it. Yes, you've got to.

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<v Speaker 5>Put a bit of effort into maintaining good health, but

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<v Speaker 5>if you maintain good health, well, you'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be able to have a good time because you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>around to do it right.

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<v Speaker 5>And the novel suggestion there from arifk is that we

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<v Speaker 5>put politics aside and have a bipartisan agreement here that

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<v Speaker 5>we're all going to work towards the fact that we

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<v Speaker 5>would like to live in a healthy world. That sounds

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<v Speaker 5>pretty straightforward to me. And yet, of course they try

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<v Speaker 5>to deride him as an anti vaxxer, and he's this,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's that, and he's a patsy for Trump, how

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<v Speaker 5>dare And the real issue here is that he's not

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<v Speaker 5>a Democrat anymore. That's why they hate him so much,

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<v Speaker 5>is that he comes from a full blown Democrat family. Mean,

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<v Speaker 5>we know who the Kennedys are, and he's walked away

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 5>and said, well, no, I'm not part of that anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Not because he feels he has left the Democrats, but

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<v Speaker 5>because he feels that the Democrats has left him, and

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<v Speaker 5>he said, well, if you don't want my wares, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>take them elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now he's running the Health Department in the United States

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<v Speaker 5>and they can't stand.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's more to it than that, though, because

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<v Speaker 6>when you talk about big Farmer, you are talking about

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<v Speaker 6>unbelievably powerful players.

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<v Speaker 8>There is no money to be made from healthy people.

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<v Speaker 8>You know that. I know that.

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<v Speaker 6>Sadly, it's not much different here in Australia. Where do

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<v Speaker 6>our politicians get fat wods of money? Where do our

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<v Speaker 6>media companies get fat wads of money? You bet it's

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<v Speaker 6>your bottom dollar. It's the same as in America. It

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 6>is from big Farmer, not all of it obviously, but

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 6>they're big donors, shall we say. And so these vested

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<v Speaker 6>interests that rear their heads when you've got a guy

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<v Speaker 6>like this who's been suing them for years already and

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 6>has just been given power from on high to go

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<v Speaker 6>nuclear on. These companies that profit billions of dollars every

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<v Speaker 6>year from not only making you sick because of the

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<v Speaker 6>stuff that you're consuming, which they're legally allowed to put

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<v Speaker 6>in their food supply, et cetera, and so on, but

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 6>also making billions of dollars off the people who then

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<v Speaker 6>naturally become sick.

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 7>And need all this medical aid.

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<v Speaker 8>It's criminal and he's after them, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>If RFK is going to do a good job or not,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do know this. You wouldn't take health advice

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<v Speaker 4>from the Democrats. I mean that clip with Elizabeth Warren saying,

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<v Speaker 4>don't you take money from big farm when she herself

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<v Speaker 4>has taken huge amounts of the Democrats were the ones

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<v Speaker 4>where they not who made Rachel Levine the assistant health

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<v Speaker 4>secretary in the Biden administration on the basis that Rachel

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<v Speaker 4>Levine was transgendered and therefore well equipped to do the job.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't think they should be too critical of

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<v Speaker 4>rf CASE also.

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<v Speaker 5>Made a demented band president. We shouldn't leave that bit

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<v Speaker 5>out of it.

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<v Speaker 7>There was that we've got the jewel in the crown.

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<v Speaker 4>Then of course a demented man as president, who they

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<v Speaker 4>all were absolutely certain was probably fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing's wrong with them.

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<v Speaker 4>But you can trust them on health. I tell you

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 4>they'll steer you in the right direction. Staying in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States, Donald Trump has been very busy this week,

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<v Speaker 4>issuing executive orders addressing all sorts of issues. If only

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 4>we had a Trump in Australia. Overnight he addressed the

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<v Speaker 4>issue of anti Semitism, issuing in executive order that those

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<v Speaker 4>students from foreign nations, non citizens studying at universities in

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<v Speaker 4>America who participated in pro Palestinian rallies should be deported.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll have no truck with anybody supporting Hamas, and so

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<v Speaker 4>he's given university sixty days to work out how they

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<v Speaker 4>are going to get rid of these protests on their campuses,

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<v Speaker 4>what they're going to do about it. And as I said,

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<v Speaker 4>he has repeated that threat that non citizen students participating

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<v Speaker 4>in those marches will be deported. The other order he

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<v Speaker 4>issued overnight was that Guantanamo Bay should be expanded to

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<v Speaker 4>how's dangerous illegal detainees.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Donald Trump talking about that today.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm also signing an executive order to instruct the Departments

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<v Speaker 12>of Defense and Homeland Security to begin preparing the thirty

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<v Speaker 12>thousand person migrant facility at guantanam or bable. Some of

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 12>them are so bad we don't even trust the countries

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<v Speaker 12>to hold them because we don't want them coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>The difference between what we're experiencing here in Australia, where

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<v Speaker 4>our politicians come on television every single day and yap, yap, yap,

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<v Speaker 4>but do nothing, and then in the United States, I've

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 4>got Donald Trump who has come into office and immediately

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 4>started making decisions, and not everybody likes them. Some people

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 4>are highly offended by them, but they are clearly the

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 4>best thing for the United States. He's unapologetic about it,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 4>and he's getting things done that The difference could not

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<v Speaker 4>be more Start.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this prison essentially that he wants to set up

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<v Speaker 5>for illegal immigrants is not when we talk about Ghipmo,

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<v Speaker 5>we're not talking about the place where they water boarded people.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 5>It's in the same general region and they've already got

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 5>a prison there where they put.

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<v Speaker 2>Other illegals that have been caught at sea, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 5>But we just, I reckon, just don't tell people that

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<v Speaker 5>bit like, just make them feel like they may actually

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<v Speaker 5>end up in the real Gitmo where they might be waterboarded,

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 5>and then you'll be able to solve the illegal migration

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<v Speaker 5>problem overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on him for doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it worked for us here when we did

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<v Speaker 5>Operation Sovereign Borders. We said no one will make land,

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<v Speaker 5>and anyone who attempts to will be taken elsewhere. That's

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 5>what he's saying here. It worked for us, no reason

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 5>it shouldn't work in the United States. And good on

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<v Speaker 5>him for saying that people who are a actually guests

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<v Speaker 5>in his country, the United States. If you don't play

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<v Speaker 5>by our rules, then you're out. If you don't share

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<v Speaker 5>our values, you're out.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on him. We should be doing this all over

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<v Speaker 2>the West. It's all good and well.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you can't kick out someone who is already

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<v Speaker 5>a citizen of your country, was born, hear, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>We all understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you're in a country on a visa, the

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<v Speaker 5>same if I went to another foreign country and started

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 5>slagging off their country over there while I'm on a visa,

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<v Speaker 5>they have every right to kick me out. I am

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<v Speaker 5>a guest in that country, and if you don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to abide by the rules and the values of that

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<v Speaker 5>country while you're there, then you don't deserve to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Good on him.

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<v Speaker 6>But say we're talking about peaceful protests, which are the

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<v Speaker 6>majority of protests. You think that just because they're a

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<v Speaker 6>visitor they're on a student visa in America, they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>be able to attend a protest.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, all it depends on what the context of the

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 5>protest is. If you're going along to a context, sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're going along to a protest where you're waving

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<v Speaker 5>around flags with things like from the River to the Sea,

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<v Speaker 5>which is essentially to exterminate a popular from their lands, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that's against Western values. En sure, you

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<v Speaker 2>should be kicked out.

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<v Speaker 6>But I would say that most of the people who

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<v Speaker 6>are attending these rallies, they're not any Semitic. They're not

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<v Speaker 6>pro har Mass, they're not har Mass fans, they're not

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 6>terrorist fans. They're simply protesting the deaths of forty seven

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<v Speaker 6>thousand people, eighteen of them eighteen thousand of them.

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<v Speaker 7>Who were children, and all of which.

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<v Speaker 6>Were completely helpless to save themselves. That's what has gotten

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<v Speaker 6>under these people's skin. That's what the vast majority of them,

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<v Speaker 6>the well meaning ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure if you're talking.

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<v Speaker 6>About foreign students who are there running leading the charge

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 6>and actually like waving her Mass flags or something. But

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<v Speaker 6>if they've simply marched in a peaceful protest, I do

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<v Speaker 6>think that a lot of this is rhetoric right now.

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<v Speaker 6>This is not something I mean, it's absolutely unenforceable as well,

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<v Speaker 6>because a lot of this is in hindsight. We haven't

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<v Speaker 6>heard a peep about any of these protests on university

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 6>campuses in America for a long time, so I think

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 6>this is pure Trump rhetoric. But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 6>it is entirely fair to say that, yeah, any foreign

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 6>student can't walk in a peaceful I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would disagree with that in this sense.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a well meaning person and you went to

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<v Speaker 4>a pro Palestinian rally at Hyde Park in Sydney, you

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<v Speaker 4>would only need to be there for ten minutes if

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<v Speaker 4>you're a well meaning person, before you would leave because

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 4>the sort of rubbish that is getting spewed from the

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<v Speaker 4>stage by speaker after speaker.

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<v Speaker 6>But you haven't been We're not talking about the Hyde

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 6>moel you've attended.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm about students.

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about pro Palestinian rallies, which is what Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>You've attended one, so now you're a you're an authority

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<v Speaker 6>on the match. But we're talking about peaceful protests on

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 6>university campuses in the state.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've been to a prou should they be deported

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<v Speaker 4>for if you've been talking, if you've been to a

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<v Speaker 4>pro Palestinian protest in Sydney, they would be the same

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<v Speaker 4>as what we saw on our television screens in the

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<v Speaker 4>US when you hear the bile that is being repeated

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<v Speaker 4>from stage the chance.

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<v Speaker 6>No, we've shown the worst of them, but the good

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 6>ones don't make the news. Where students fan together and

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<v Speaker 6>say we simply object.

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<v Speaker 4>As you said, you're a well meaning person and you

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<v Speaker 4>just want to peacefully protest. It takes ten minutes to

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<v Speaker 4>realize those protests are not peaceful. The reetric is not peaceful,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you are a guest in the country, that.

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<v Speaker 7>Is such a stupid generalization.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 8>Bags there is and.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's no there's no protest that has been peaceful.

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<v Speaker 8>Any nice person show me those would.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Have showed me a pro Palestinian rally where there's no

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 4>hateful reetric, where there's no demails.

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<v Speaker 8>They don't make the news, do they are right?

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<v Speaker 4>So you haven't seen one, then no, yes I have,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why I'm speaking.

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 6>On socials much people.

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<v Speaker 8>They are not They do not hate Jews.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:00.959
<v Speaker 6>They do hate what's happened to Gaza and the forty

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 6>seven thousand odd people who have been killed through no

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 6>fault of their own. That is what they're marching for.

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 6>They don't hate Jews, and they're not her mass fans.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't believe that you would.

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<v Speaker 6>Make such a generalization regarding I'd say millions of people

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 6>at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a pretty fair generalization, to be honest, from

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 4>what we've seen right across the West.

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 7>That is such a gross generalization.

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 3>That is happy to stand by it.

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 4>If someone can show me a peaceful pro Palestinian rally

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 4>where they're all just saying nice things.

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 7>Doesn't make love to know about it, doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Make the new Let's stay in the United States for

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<v Speaker 4>a second, because back in June last year, a couple

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 4>of astronauts went to the International Space Station for a week.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 4>That's how long they were supposed to be there. Eight

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<v Speaker 4>months later, they're still floating around, can't get home because

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 4>they're Boeing.

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>What's it called a stylie what's it?

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 5>Of course it was bowing. No thing probably fell apart,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 5>the door fell off.

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, there were helium leaks, there were thrust

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 4>the issue. So they decided the Boeing star Liner wasn't

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 4>safe to get the astronauts home. It came home without them.

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 4>They're still there just for context, by the way, that

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 4>they're meant to be there for a week.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 3>They've been there eight months.

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 4>The American who's been in space the longest ever was

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 4>Frank Rubio.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 3>He was there three hundred and seventy one days, just

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<v Speaker 3>over a year.

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 4>So they are close closing in on the record record.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm on space when, as I said, they're expecting to

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.359
<v Speaker 4>be there for a week, So NASA are trying to

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 4>work out when they can go and get them.

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 3>They were thinking March.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump has asked via socials if Elon Musk could

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 4>do him a solid and go pick up these astronauts

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 4>on behalf of the US government. Trump messaged, I've just

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 4>asked Elon Musk and SpaceX to go get the two

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 4>brave astronauts who've been virtually abandoned in space by the

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 4>Biden administration. They've been waiting for many months on Space station.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 4>Elon will soon be on his way. Hopefully all will

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 4>be well. Good luck Elon and Elon. Usk replied, Absolutely

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 4>happy to do it for you, Boss. This is pretty

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 4>embarrassing for Boeing and for NASA by the way, that

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 4>their own astronauts are having to be picked up like hitchhikers.

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 3>We Elon Musk.

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Indeed, but the Musk's thing went up there last year

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 5>and it's been sitting up there for some time, and

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 5>that mission to bring them back has been delayed. I

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 5>think the funniest part of it is that it's almost

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 5>like Elon Musk and Donald Trump are in some sort

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.680
<v Speaker 5>of group chat and they're just conducting their their conversations

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 5>via public.

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Elon himself isn't going to go out and collect.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 5>These people, but I'm I am concerned that maybe it's

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 5>the partners of these people who sabotaged the original rocket

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 5>that was going to go up there.

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 2>They thought.

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:47.839
<v Speaker 8>The overflow of the heart.

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 6>Now you're notestic would that even occur?

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 2>To your not suggesting.

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 6>I just love that you two still insist that even

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 6>though it's been fifty years, it's been over half a

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 6>century since we've been to the Moon in seventy two,

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 6>a Polo seventeen, was it, Yes, a Polo seventeen, So

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 6>it's been over fifty years. It's been over half a

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 6>century since we went there. But we definitely went there

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 6>in the sixties.

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 7>You know, maybe we just got sick of going.

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 6>Maybe we were just like you know what, you've seen

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 6>the moon. Once you've seen the moon forever, we can't

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 6>be bothered visiting it anymore.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 7>We've done it enough.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 8>We literally haven't made it back since. And you guys

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 8>are like, yeah, but we went plenty of times.

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 5>If it was like it happened in Wallis and Grammit

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 5>where you can go upon.

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 8>Episode go look it, John Y, No, this is you don't.

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Want to have a go because I reckon propel us

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 4>to be in rallies, hateful rallies, and then happened.

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 6>No, I refuse to believe that good hearted people who

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 6>believe that it is the moonlanding was fir. Tens of

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 6>thousands of people have the helpless thing would be killed.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 6>Horrible people, and shouldn't March's rocket to the moon.

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 3>We're going to go to a break.

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 4>When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow.

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Stick around, welcome back. Let's look at what's making news tomorrow.

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 4>We'll start with Sydney's Daily Telegraph. The headline there reads

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 4>Who's the Mastermind? And of course that's all to do

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 4>with the investigation into finding the mastermind behind the Dural

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 4>caravan plot. New South Wales Police, along with the AFP

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 4>and other agencies, met on Thursday to piece together what's

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 4>being described as a jigsaw puzzle of evidence and leads now.

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Tammy Farrugia, her boyfriend Scott Marshall and his friend Simon

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Nichols were named in AFP search warrants and have been

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 4>described as being on the periphery of the investigation. Authorities

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 4>say they are working swiftly to uncover the key figure

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 4>behind that scheme, so that story leads the Daily Telegraph tomorrow.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Liz, you've got the Herald Sun. Sorry, Caleb, you've got that.

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 5>Get with the program, James, mate, don't you write all

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 5>this stuff down before the shows.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to give Liz more opportunity.

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, she doesn't need another opportunity, mate, God g you

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 5>can throw me a bone out here by the way.

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 5>Don't they look like a couple of people You're there

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 5>around for Tea and Bickie?

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Sitn't they? Let's go to the Herald Sun, where it

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:22.760
<v Speaker 2>says to more.

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 5>Totally busted, fears for school children's safety and three hundred

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.399
<v Speaker 5>and fifty jobs as upgrades to state's aging bus week

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 5>put on hold for up to five years.

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>And you might be wondering, why.

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 5>Would these jobs be put on hold and these buses

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 5>be put on hold for up to five years. It's

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 5>is here that this planned upgrade has been put on

0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 5>fold for five years, on hold sorry, because the Allen

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 5>government sent down a directive to buy zero emission buses

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 5>over diesel ones. Isn't that fantastic? Who would have thought

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 5>that if you go for the zero emission product, the

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 5>green product, it does drive intoime. If only everything worked

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 5>as we wanted it to work, Just get diesel buses,

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 5>for heaven's sake. We have an abundance of diesel in

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 5>this country, got abundance of diesel everywhere. We just want

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 5>the buses to move around. But no, we couldn't possibly

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 5>have a good, usable public transport, could.

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>We, because it might pollute the environment.

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 4>So the kids have got to put up with out

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 4>of date buses for how long is it five years

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 4>before they get these?

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 5>And also, even if a bus is spewing out diesel emissions,

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 5>surely one bus spewing out diesel emissions is better than say,

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 5>forty cars on the road spewing out the emissions that

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 5>come out of the back of him, the keys of

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 5>the buses powered by Diesel, just get them on the road, absolutely.

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 6>To the front page of The Australian. Now, who will

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 6>fight for nationally? He alarm Former Army chief Peter Lee.

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 6>He has warned a decline in national pride is at

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 6>the heart of the Australian Defense Forces personnel crisis, arguing

0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 6>a culture of entitlement, identity politics and victimhood is diminishing

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 6>the pool of potential recruits. Now, I don't know that

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 6>it's any of those things, except for national pride. I

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 6>think that one is the one where he's really hit

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 6>the nail on the head.

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 7>Because I was thinking about this recently.

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 6>And to my shock and horror, I realized I probably

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 6>would not be inclined to fight for Australia as it

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:31.479
<v Speaker 6>is today. The Australia of the eighties, one hundred percent

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 6>the Australia of the nineties, I would have died in

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 6>a ditch in the most agonizing ways possible. You name

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 6>it be the Australia of today, where only a third

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 6>of us were born here. And I regularly look around

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 6>and wonder if I'm back in India Thailand, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh,

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 6>any number of the Asian countries that I've been to.

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 7>This, of course, is not to say anything.

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 6>Bad against those peoples. It's simply to say that it's

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 6>only in Western countries. We've come up with this rule

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 6>book by which you can come from anywhere and get

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:09.479
<v Speaker 6>a piece of paper that says your Australian, that says

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 6>you're American.

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 7>That says you're British. Now. I can't go to China.

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 7>Know what it would be like, Oh, you're you're Asian,

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 7>Now you're Chinese. Now.

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 6>If I move to Africa, if I stay there for

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 6>ten years, no one would agree that I was African.

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 7>And as I've said before.

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 6>Everyone who comes here has a homeland to return to,

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.919
<v Speaker 6>with a rich culture, a rich heritage, all their own

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 6>customs and ways of doing things, their own values.

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 8>And then me, I don't an actual Aussie, he was

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 8>born and bred here.

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't have a homeland to return to. This is

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 6>my home and it looks nothing like it did in

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 6>the nineties. It looks nothing like it did in the eighties.

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 6>I do fear that it will never be again. I

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.360
<v Speaker 6>think the proof is in the pudding.

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's what makes this current situation so dangerous

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 4>when you've got geopolitical tensions so fraught at the moment,

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 4>and we keep denigrating our own culture in our own

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.520
<v Speaker 4>country right when we need our defense forces to be boosted.

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 4>We're going to go to some breaking news as the

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 4>IDF soldier Agam Berger has been reunited.

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 3>With her parents.

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 4>She was nineteen when she was taken hostage by Hamas,

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 4>she's now twenty years old. You can see their pictures

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 4>that have been released by the Israeli Defense Force as

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 4>she's been reunited with her parents. She's one of eight

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 4>hostages who are due to be released today. A German

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:40.319
<v Speaker 4>Israeli is to be released along with an older man

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 4>who has taken hostage from his home in southern Israel.

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 4>And then there's five Thai nationals who are meant to

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 4>be released today as well, part of a small group

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 4>of foreign hostages that haven't been talked about that much.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 4>But you can only imagine the joy and the relief

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 4>for those parents as they get their their girl back.

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Caleb, you know what more.

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 5>Can you say than that, really, that it would be

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 5>from the worst moment of your life on October seventh,

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 5>most probably when a family member was taken away from

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 5>you and you never knew whether you would see them again,

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 5>to what is now probably the.

0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Best day of your life.

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 5>And we shouldn't forget because we're here saying how great

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 5>it is that the hostages have been released, and that

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 5>is true, but don't forget the pain that these people

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 5>have been through over the last what is it thirteen

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 5>fourteen or months, hour or longer than that, actually, but

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 5>the pain that they've been through not knowing whether their

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 5>loved ones are alive, whether they will ever see them again.

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, they will be feeling.

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 5>Absolute abundant joy today, but I suspect the pain and

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 5>the trauma that has been inflicted upon both the family

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 5>members and the hostages that they've been experiencing for more

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 5>than a year will be something that will stay with

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.760
<v Speaker 5>them forever. I mean, getting your family member back is great,

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 5>but it's not going to stop the pain that was

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 5>caused for all that time.

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 4>She was held hostage four hundred and eighty two days

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 4>by harmas.

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 6>Terrorists talk about a long awaited reunion, and every one

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 6>of those days would have been agony for those at

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 6>home waiting and to think that some are still waiting.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, among those waiting, and I mean, everyone's desperate to

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 4>know the status of those two little children, a five

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 4>year old and a two year old, who had taken

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 4>hostage along with their mother and still her. Mus have

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 4>refused to say whether those little kids are even alive

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 4>or not, which is just the height of cruelty to

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 4>keep everybody waiting on that. You just can't imagine the agony.

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 4>But for that family, good news today. They've got their

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 4>girl home. We're going to go to a break when

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 4>we come back. As I said, Trump's been issuing executive

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.240
<v Speaker 4>orders left, right and everywhere else, but one you never.

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Thought he would ever issue, will show you that.

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Just welcome back.

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 4>I've been to Kenya a couple of times, love the country,

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 4>have lots of Kenyan friends. But Caleb, You've got a

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.000
<v Speaker 4>story that makes me love Kenyan's even more.

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 5>Before we get to that, can you make a recommendation for.

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Me if I go over there a recommendation?

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Sorry it was ken Can you make a recommendation for me?

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Ken you get it.

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 11>On your own.

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 6>Ladies and gentlemen, this is late debate history you have

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 6>just witnessed, because for once one of them is with

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 6>me not getting a dad joke, literally just staring was

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 6>half at your own joke, and I'm like, wait, what.

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Was the only dad on the desk? Can I just

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 3>say that was not a dad joke anyway?

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, now that my thunder has been completely started.

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 5>Because these are philistines and good humor, we normally bring

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 5>you funny stories in Cig three. This one is actually

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 5>we're not well. I know I tried to bring some,

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 5>but this one is actually kind of you. Whu Kenyata

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 5>is the former president of Kenya, and the reason this

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 5>is so funny is because he's just speaking pure common

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 5>sense here to an audience of people who you can

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 5>imagine are seeing there agog that he is saying that

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 5>where as African countries should probably look after ourselves before

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<v Speaker 5>we go asking other people for money.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a look.

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<v Speaker 13>Trump has removed money. He said he's not giving us

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<v Speaker 13>any more money.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you crying?

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<v Speaker 13>It's not your government, is not your country. He has

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<v Speaker 13>no reason to give you anything. I mean, you don't

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<v Speaker 13>pay taxes in America. He is appealing to his people,

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<v Speaker 13>shou heney, what are we going to do? Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 13>support ourselves because nobody is going to continue holding out

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<v Speaker 13>a hand there to give you. It is time for

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<v Speaker 13>us to use our resources for the right thing. We

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<v Speaker 13>are the ones who are using them for the wrong things.

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<v Speaker 2>To do the joke again? Can you get that man

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<v Speaker 2>over here right now? We'd love some more of him.

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<v Speaker 6>I reckon, wasn't funny the first time, wasn't funny the

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<v Speaker 6>second time. Now, we've all heard about these incredible presidential

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<v Speaker 6>edicts coming down from President Donald J.

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<v Speaker 7>Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's one that I sincerely wish he had signed into law,

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<v Speaker 6>but unfortunately it's just a parody. Really video, there's big

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<v Speaker 6>dog energy back in the White House.

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<v Speaker 7>He's making men masculine.

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<v Speaker 2>And lastly, sir, we have an inconsecutive order demanding that

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<v Speaker 2>grown men stop wearing skinny jeans.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one, huh.

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<v Speaker 7>Other people are waiting for this for a long for years, for.

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<v Speaker 14>Decades, amen, brother, I'm one of them. I've been waiting

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<v Speaker 14>for years for decades.

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<v Speaker 5>If only this was legit, and also include ripped jeans,

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<v Speaker 5>which I have seen James McPherson wear in the newsroom too.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a wetness I wear them really well. That's

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<v Speaker 3>it from us. The ground coming up is the Independent

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<v Speaker 3>Show good night,