WEBVTT - Torvill & Dean's Friendship Stronger Than Olympic Gold 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:03.560 And then a week later she said, are you going 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.680 to continue skating? And we were a bit superstitious and 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.719 so we thought we said, well, we won't commit to 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.319 it yet, give it another week, another week, and another week, 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.080 and after a few months, so you're not And to 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.840 be honest, I've never agreed to skat with her yet neither. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.000 Hello and welcome to separate bathrooms. We would like to 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.280 acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation, the traditional 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.760 custodians of this land, and pay our respects to the elders, 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.479 both past and present. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:40.800 High Street hut. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:42.120 Hello, I'm cam Dado. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:44.120 You excited. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.320 I'm very very excited. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:47.440 Why. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.960 Well, we've said this before, we can say it, we 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.320 can say it, we can say it again. This job 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.279 that we do in entertainment, it's pretty awesome. We get 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.440 to do some wonderful things. We meet amazing people, and 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:04.560 we've had some unique experiences along the way. Today is 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.320 one of them. We're all in for something really special. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:13.039 Ice skating legends Jane Torvell and Christopher Dean are with 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.360 us in the studio. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:19.600 In years I know it was at the Sarajevo Winter 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.520 Olympics that they made history, completing their gold medal winning 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:28.200 performance to Ravel's Ballero at the nineteen eighty four Winter Olympics. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.399 This was an iconic, heart stopping performance which had a 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:37.479 UK television audience of twenty four million and an estimated 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:41.080 worldwide audience of hundreds of millions of viewers on the 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.480 edge of their seats. I was one of them. Oh 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.200 my god, of course. Well this became one of the 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.000 greatest sporting moments of the twentieth century and set a 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.880 new standard for world class figure skating. 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.880 So after hanging up their skates since several years out 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.520 of the public eye, they once again became household names, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:03.840 becoming head judges on Dancing on Ice for sixteen series. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.200 They've had streets named after them, created documentaries and chased 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.560 skating on wild ice for filming, and they're now on 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:17.760 their final tour. Our Last Dance. Australia is a special 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.200 place for Tauval and Dean. With their first professional show 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.880 being produced back in the. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:26.399 Eighties, they've shared a remarkable fifty year partnership. Let's get 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.519 to know them better and we'll hear about what they 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:34.360 have planned for us Ozzie's in twenty twenty five. Please 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:38.560 welcome the incredible Jane and Christopher known around the world 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:40.280 as Tauville and Dean. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.320 Hello, guys, welcome. 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:52.080 To the Also on the production, they well, just call 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.000 us T and D T ANDD. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.840 I like that. That makes it easier. We'll do that. Well, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:04.320 congratulations on what has been and actually really continues to 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:08.440 be an incredible career. Our last dance it says it all. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.920 Of course, how are you feeling about the impending retirement, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.240 I mean of that particular world for you. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.080 It's kind of weird to think that this time next 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.000 year we will have been retired already, because we're coming 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.760 out to Australia in June of next year, and after 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.920 that we're done on We that's it. 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.000 We may stay who knows, we stay here, finish the 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:30.919 tour and just stay. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.760 The will wrap you up and keep you here very easily, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:35.920 I have no doubt about that. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:37.440 Will you keep skating? 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.040 Is it's something you enjoyed doing? You know? 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.560 I choreograph a lot for all the skaters. Yeah, so 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.520 that may be in my future. But having said that, 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.400 from our point of view, from skating on a regular basis, 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.840 because we're always scheduling ourselves for the next event, and 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.080 right now we're obviously in the throes of getting ready 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.720 for the tour, which is exciting. We're really excited about 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.640 what the tour is going to be, and we're excited 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.520 about going out for the last time. But I'm sure 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.520 as we get to that final performance, it will become 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:16.040 emotional and sentimental. Of course, you know we've grown up together. 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:17.960 We were fifteen, Well, we knew each other when we 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.680 were ten years old. Yeah, we started skating together when 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.880 we were fifteen years old, and we've just about spoken 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.440 to each other every day since then. So I don't 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.360 think that will change. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.919 I mean, that's an incredible partnership, Like obviously you've I 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.880 mean that outlasted most marriages. I mean, that's like a 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.520 true that's a childhood friendship that you've managed to maintain 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.320 in such a beautiful way. Why do you think that is? 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.640 What is it about each of you that's you've been 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.320 able to maintain it for this long? 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.080 Well, obviously, you know the skating all has always been 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.919 our passion. Yeah, and you know, we both have the 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.040 same feelings about skating, and we're always we went through 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.839 all the competitive years until eighty four, but then beyond 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.920 that we were excited to continue to skate and be creative. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.080 As Chris said, we formed our own skating company down 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:14.760 here in Australia and there were no restrictions. There were 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.839 no rules of competition or anything. So it was just 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.880 like an open door, wasn't it. And having won the 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.720 Olympics talking of open doors, that opens doors everywhere around 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:25.520 the world for you. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.000 Yeah, I think we transitioned from sports people to entertainers, 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.640 and then we went into the area of working with 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:36.000 artists like Graham Murphy from Sydney and then Yo Yomar, 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.960 famous cellists. So we've just done so many different things. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.400 But it's because of that one four minute routine back 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.719 in nineteen eighty four that gathers this longevity. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.440 It's incredible, It is incredible. I do want to ask 0:05:53.480 --> 0:06:00.200 you about the mindset change from moving from sports people 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.680 to entertainers, what what, But there are other things I 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:04.680 want to cover before that. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.480 We want to get just. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.040 Go back to when you were kids. What was do 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.120 you remember your first impressions of each other. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.279 I just remember seeing Chris at the rink before we 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:21.000 skatered together, and amongst friends of mine, I called him 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.440 the Blonde Prince because he had really his blonde now, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.159 but it was like really white blonde hair as a youngster. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.000 And I said, oh, the blonde prince is here again. 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.840 On top that if the shoe fits right, he's got. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.880 Away that the princess bride? Was that now? That wasn't 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.560 a thing yet, was it the Princess Bride? Because I 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.719 could see why you would be like a Westland you know, right, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.799 you guys are princess Buttercup and Wesley right, yeah. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.159 Yeah, yeah? Was it immediate? The chemistry on ice when 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.040 you when you start you started dancing at fifteen and sixteen? 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.160 Is that correct? Together? 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.120 Well? I I was always dancing, and Jeane had been 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:03.719 in another catchual figure skating called pair skating. So at 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.279 the Nottingham ice rink where we both started skating, she 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.880 was the Queen Bee because she was a champion. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.560 I was a British champione quite young, mainly because there 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.160 weren't many pair skating. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.560 Couples down, only two of us. 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.920 There was only two in that national chap we were. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:27.040 But then her partner thought that going off to London 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:31.680 was the place to be, so he left you and 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.320 then the partner that I had had the same impression 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.440 that she wanted to go to London and the big 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.520 Smoke and make it big down there. So we were 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.920 without partners, and then the coach at the time just 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:48.920 suggested that we try out. And we were fifteen years 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.600 old and quite naive. You know, back in those days, 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.280 there's no social media or anything like that, so you 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.640 were still a bit naive of fifteen years and she 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.440 put us together. And remember it was one Thursday morning, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.240 wasn't it, and about six am in the morning, and 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.400 nobody else is there, and the knoting ice rink is 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.559 a cold, dark, dank place, and you see the rats 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.800 scory as you turn the lights on, so is. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.960 That they get the rest at the stage scor often. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.600 Chasing them off the ice. Anyway, she put us together, 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.680 and she put us in a dance holder waltz holed, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.679 and to begin with we were sort of like really 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.600 distance apart, but then she like squeezed us together, so 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.880 our hips were against each other and that was kind 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.160 of awkward for us, and we were like looking around, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:37.520 and then she said, I've just got to get something 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.680 from a dressing room, So she scooted off the ice 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:41.640 and left us there, and we. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:42.720 Had we didn't move. 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.800 We didn't move, We didn't say anything. We were just 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.199 sort of searching around with our eyes left in the 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.360 middle of the eyes at six o'clock in the morning. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.440 And finally she came back out about five minutes later 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.800 and said, well, you've passed your first test. You're still here. 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:00.120 The idea is that when you're a dance couple, you 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.280 dance as close together as you can and that creates 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.000 a better line and everything. So that's the reason she 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.240 pushed our hips together because a lot quite often couples 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.480 that are starting out dancing, they do tend to do that. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.040 So you could drive a bus between. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.360 Yeah, so they want you close together, which was a 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:17.760 good lesson right from the beginning. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.520 Yeah, so you fit. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.800 We fit it. And then a week later she said, 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.520 are you going to continue skating? And we didn't want to. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.480 We were a bit superstitious, and so we thought we said, well, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.000 we won't commit to it yet, give it another week, 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.200 another week, and another week, and after a few months, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.240 so we're not sure. And to be honest, I've never 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:41.319 agreed to skate with her. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.240 Yet, neither about it. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.240 Actually you have because you set up this last two us. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.439 So you're kind of going, okay, I'll skate with you. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.520 Well, I'll give it just a few more months. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.520 I don't you think that you're those partners that left 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.600 you and went to London and out sort of they're 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.559 probably a kicking themselves, but they're probably dining out on 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:03.480 that story going. 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:05.760 I used to skate with them when I was lett 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.839 I got her ready for him something like that. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.840 It's strange, isn't it, That sliding door moments? Aren't they 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.439 left and right? Those decisions and so much fate in 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.400 your life, but so true, and then there's some decisions 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:20.960 that you make they're just the right one. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:21.200 Ye? 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:22.400 Was there? 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.240 Was there someone that inspired you both to skate? Was 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.400 there found other family members that were skaters? 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.760 No, it was just when I was in primary school, 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.520 when I was about eight nine years old. The teacher 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:35.880 at the time, because we're lucky, we lived in a 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:40.720 city in Nottingham that had an ice RM. I think 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:47.199 missus McCarthy, I absolutely do. Was she decided to organize 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.520 a trip after school trip for the kids in the 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.760 class and said, you know, ask your parents' permission, and 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.600 it costs this much and we'll go on Friday evening 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.240 and it's quite funny now because it's probably a busload 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.320 of twenty at least children, and she was the only adult. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.520 You know, how this all the chaperones and all that 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:09.080 kind of health and safety. 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:09.679 None of that. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.079 So off we went to the ice rink, went on 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:18.040 the ice, we had a group coaching session, and I 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.199 just loved it. I just loved the feeling of gliding. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.720 And I wouldn't say that I was amazing straight away. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.439 I had a certain sense of balance. But I was 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.800 watching other skaters that were doing really good things and 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.160 much better skaters than me, and I was thinking, I 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.120 want to do that. I want to be able to spin. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.960 I want to be able to And it went from there, 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.079 and then the coach at the time suggested that I 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.839 join a Saturday morning club. And then beyond that, I 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.080 pestered my parents police couldn't have a lesson, actual lesson, 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.599 and they agree to it. And then of course I 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:55.480 wanted When you go to the ice rink, you higher skates, 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.640 and they're usually blue or brown. And I was seeing 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:02.640 all these little girls, yeah, these little girls in white skates, 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.120 and I wanted the white skates. And I said to 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.640 my parents, please, may I have my own skates, and 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.920 my mum famously said, well, we'll get you a second 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.240 hand pair because we don't know how long you're going. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:19.240 To keep doing that, right, had answers. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.839 And she was, well, she certainly ate those words. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:28.600 Yeah, you know, I'm thinking Nottingham was not a mecca 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:29.880 for ice skating. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.040 Well, you were surprised because at the time when we 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.080 were skating, there weren't that many rinks around the country. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.360 There like eight or nine rinks and not even just 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.800 happened to be one of them. And it had been 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.600 since the war or just before the war, i think. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.480 And we had a hockey team that was quite popular 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:52.679 called the Panthers, and so yeah, it had it had 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.000 a tradition. But when we first started, when we think 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.719 back at that time, there was at the end of 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.040 the th there was sort of a stage area and 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.080 there was the big organ and the guy that would 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.839 play the music and his wife would stand beside him 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:13.000 and she was all made up and everything and puls 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:18.400 and he'd be playing when she turned the pages for him. Characters. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.520 So all the all the dance music that was generic. Yeah, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.160 it was a dance interval as they call it. So 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.199 all the waltzes and fox strots and everything. It was 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:28.960 all played live. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:38.920 You know before when we used to take tests, proficiency 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:46.000 tests and you'd hear the metronome first, then the music 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:46.640 would come in and. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.960 Here we go, excuse to be out of time. 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.679 Really it was when you think back of those days. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.520 All the ice swinks had organs. That was that was 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:54.360 how you got the music. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:55.400 Fabulous? 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.520 Isn't that funny that I like in America at the 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.040 baseball like the World Series is on at the moment 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.839 and it's that whole seventh inning stretch. It's still the 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.040 going on, and the same in the lot of the 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.280 basketball arenas across America as well. It's the organ get 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:12.160 some more pumped up. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.000 Yeah, when I grew doing ballet, when I was a 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.840 little girl, we had a we had a missus such 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.560 I remember she was a hunchback and she sat a posture, 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.640 yeah really like a real, real severe hump. But she 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.760 was so lovely and she would just smile at all 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:31.640 the little girls forest which I forgot about that. But 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.760 it was so delightful to have live music in a way, 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.120 you know, Yeah, it's all hit the record or hit 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:47.720 the iPhone, isn't it absolutely play it out you were you, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.520 I know, obviously famously you were a policeman while you 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.880 were skating at the same time. Were you did you 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.200 also were you full time skater? Did you have a 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:57.680 part time job as not. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.560 A full time job an insurance company based in the 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:02.840 center of Nottingham. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.040 We were true amateurs at the time because you couldn't 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.560 earn any money from sponsorship sponsorship in the way as 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.480 an amateur, so we had to have and also we 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.680 couldn't afford not to. Our parents couldn't afford to pay 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.920 for us, so we still had to work. And outside 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.440 of work we then fitted the skating in, which was 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.640 difficult more for Jane because when eventually, when I was 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.120 a policeman, I had shift work. Yeah, it could be 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.040 from six to two, two till ten midnight till eight 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.880 the next morning, so we fitted skating in around that 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.560 and Jane had until nine till five. So whenever I 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.480 was available, then Jane would have to come to the rink. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.800 So you were a zombie in the office sometimes, yeah, definitely, 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.560 and I was too. But after a shift, you know, 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.400 take off one uniform and then put your skates on them. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:01.880 Back throws the skating clothes that was amazing. I was 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:07.280 always thinking watching the Olympics and I've always been a fan. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.120 I've got to say of the outfits that that the 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.840 skaters or people where when you get a chance to 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.760 to do the free skate, like you do your classical 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:19.080 ones that you have to do, and then you do 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:23.040 your free skates or whatever you want to do. Who 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.560 designed those for you, guys? Did you work on those 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:26.880 together or is that Folks? 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.680 We had a professional designer you just happened to be 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.040 involved with skating. He was one of the skating He 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.400 was a designer as well. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.280 But judges don't get paid, so it's like the amateur skaters, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.920 so they have job as well. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.240 Yeah, I mean we used to have people that made 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:48.600 missus and mine was you see how old we. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:50.440 Now? 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.200 We had wrong gone at once these guys, that's what 0:16:55.400 --> 0:17:02.440 they did. YEA costume costumers the McGill It might come 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.119 by the end of anyway, she this lady just did 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:10.840 amazing work. But eventually she started losing a sign. Yeah, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.240 it was sort of a bit feel the way around. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.680 But we have a story about the costumes because we 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.320 wanted for Ballero, they arm braid. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:19.920 Yes, the pur. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.240 I was going to say, do you remember what you wore? 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.280 But it was black with purple like the purple you 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:26.840 weren't today. 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.800 It was like an orchid that was thing. It was 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.239 sort of deep rich purple that got lighter and then 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.320 there was these little gold eplets that we had sort 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.320 of the center of the orchid. But it were we 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.800 wanted it to have sort of a Grecian feel at 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.640 the same time, but the material that we we had 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.520 to go and source the material. So we'd go down 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:48.520 Berrick Street. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.520 And Lane and go to London for the day from 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.680 Nottingham because and it was a big outing to go 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:53.000 and get. 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.600 So you'd go and source the material. How much do 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.800 you want so? And then they cut the designs and 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.240 fit it and start to shape it. But then when 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.960 my top was done, it was in the downstairs loo 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.840 of the costume designers because they every sort of two 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.520 hours or so, they'd lift it up an inch. 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.480 It was die. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.359 I love that it. At At one point are they 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:22.720 in a museum now? 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.960 Noting a mice arena which is on the site of 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.480 the original notting mice rink is a museum now. It's 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.600 a huge building now and they've got a museum part 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.080 of it, and they've got several of our costumes, including and. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.040 Then just outside the ice rink, it's called Blu Square. 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:40.280 Really. 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.640 Yeah, we have a tram named after us as well. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.359 Tram J says, I'm the back end of the tram. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.239 We get very excited actually, and my kids do it too, 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.719 Like in Nottingham if we if we're there together, if 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:58.320 the tram goes by, is it yours? Mom? Is it yours? Sometimes? 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.399 I found myself in a restaurant in Nottingham with the 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.479 kids once and I'm sitting there and the tram went 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.200 by and I went, it's the trap. 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:10.439 I was kind of doing it for them. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.080 Really, Are you guys kind of like uncles and ardies 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.720 to your kids to you know, it's. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.800 In America, are they Yeah? 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.480 They were not because your kids are in America and 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:24.159 so on. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.600 Yeah, you know what kids are like now, they're all 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:27.320 about themselves. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.560 Did they go Did any of the kids take up? 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.000 I'm skating nothing, but they've been. 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.679 I mean my kids go. They put seasonal rinks up 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.720 because I don't live close to an ice rink where 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.320 I live in the UK, and they put seasonal rinks 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:46.280 up at Christmas time, and almost every year they've they've 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.160 gone and now they're go on their own because they're older, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.240 don't mum, And I'm quite happy about that. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:57.000 But also we didn't want to force the kids skating 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:58.920 and then be in the rink for the less part 0:19:58.960 --> 0:19:59.720 of our life. Either. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.640 They were successful, that's. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.000 True, because it's a that is a full time job 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.719 when you get in the levels that you were skating at. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.240 So of course we have to touch on that. 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:12.760 We have to the most. 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.520 Famous we have to, I mean, but it's not only. 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:19.520 The most famous ice dancing performance. I feel like it's 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:24.440 just there's so much iconicness, if that's a word around it, 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.639 because they they almost like bring it out almost every Olympics. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:31.119 They use that as footage. You know, it's it's in 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.439 so many you know, historical terms that they talk about 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.520 the tall and Dean Ballero performance. Did you were you 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:44.919 actually training in Nottingham when you did that? Like did 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.560 they actually have the organ player playing. 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.560 There's a whole process when we started as kids to 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:56.560 where we got to, and just from the music side, 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.159 you know that our mentality is we got better. We 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.080 wanted everything to get better as well. We always wanted 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.520 to be doing the best we could, whether it was costumes, music, skating, 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:12.560 we took everything as wanting it to be at its best. 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:18.320 And so musically as we progressed from the Macca Mabel 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:23.560 that we used to do, which was an overture that 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.240 we found that was perfect and it was a silent 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.480 movie theme that we did. But then we went to 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:31.840 Barnum because we wanted to do a circus theme and 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:36.480