WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 24 February 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:00.440 Lately. 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:06.520 Welcomely to the Late Blase Loo. 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:08.479 Good evening and thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.319 I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and back from her 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:12.240 week in London. 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:13.720 Liz Storer, Liz. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.159 How let go? 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.119 You're at the art conference? I was tell us about it? 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:17.520 What was the het? 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:19.560 You was absolutely fabulous. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.759 Being from Sky News, it was like catching up with 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.720 a pile of friends because we've had half The speakers 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.360 were more than half, i'd say, on Sky News airwaves 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.639 for many years now, so it was kind of like 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:31.680 a family reunion. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:33.120 To be honest, there are some great speakers. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.559 Before we get into the night's news, just give us 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:36.120 the highlights. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:37.360 Who did you really enjoy? 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.400 Oh my gosh, that would be hard. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.879 But for me personally, it was Nigel Farage, just because 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:47.080 personally he is someone who just exudes authenticity. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.960 At ARC, you've got a lot of the born to rule. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:53.360 Types, which well I call them that because they kind 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.680 of are. But on a personal level, Nigel is someone 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:00.480 that here's authenticity. He's down to earthners. He had the 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:04.560 audience laughing more than anybody else, just because he is 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.520 who he is and he stands for what he stands 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.360 for and obviously being in the UK and speaking as 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.080 the leader of the Reform. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.119 Party, he had everyone on the edge of his. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.280 Seat because you're quite possibly listening to the next Rome. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.880 Absolutely, and he knows how to give a stab speech, 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.520 does not Oh yeah, baraj And he actually said it 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.679 his sixtieth birthday party that he was the only bloke 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.720 on gb News who does his show without auto Q 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.360 because it's a bit hard to read when you're half pissed. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:33.360 Very good. 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.360 Well, on that note, let's get into tonight's program. We 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.240 all know that Donald Trump does not miss when taking 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.560 potshots at his opponents. Wait until you see his latest 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.840 meme taking aim at slackers within the public service. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:46.840 It's pretty good. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.080 Plus, we'll get to what's making news tomorrow, including more 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.600 revelations from Tony Burke's citizenship extravaganza and the cost of 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.240 living crisis doesn't seem to be affecting people in our 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.160 national capital. Wait until you hear what the paper as 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.640 a reporting public servants are spending on furniture. All of 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.960 that when we look at tomorrow's news. But first, dignitaries 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.880 gathered this week just gone in Darwin for the commemoration 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.720 of the eighty third anniversary of the bombing of Darwin. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.880 Japanese bombs rained down on that city, killing two hundred 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.520 and three thirty Australians and wounding four hundred. So it's 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:26.280 a pretty important anniversary. And it began predictably, like landing 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.160 a jet on Virgin Airways at Sydney Airport with a 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.440 welcome to country. They're welcome to country went fully five minutes. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.920 You can imagine what that was like for people sitting 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.000 in the Darwin sun. And then after that, well every 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.680 guest speaker knew exactly what was expected of them. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:51.359 Jana nelivid no Niji respect, gelimerg and Billy Lira Daoba Nari. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:53.160 I give our. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:57.079 Respect to the Laroche of people, elders, men and women, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:03.600 to all first nations custodians present. I also pay my respect. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:10.360 Can I acknowledge the Larakaia people and pay my respects 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.120 to their elders past and present? 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:16.560 And I acknowledge also, of course the Larakaa people whose 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:21.480 soil it also was if the adversary had succeeded or. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.799 Was lost, like to acknowledge the Larakaa people, the nutritional 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:27.280 liners of the land on which we meet. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:29.600 We meet in Larrakia. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.360 Kadri and James, thank you very much for your welcome country, 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.320 and I shee quite a few friends from the Larrakia people. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:38.200 Bila Bara, good to see you. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.520 Seven speakers in a row all felt the need to 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:45.960 acknowledge local Indigenous people before they spoke about what they 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:49.720 were there to commemorate. But then, like a cool breeze 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.280 on a hot Northern Territory summer's day, the Chief Minister, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.640 Leo Leah Finocchiaro goot up to the podium and she spoke. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:03.000 I'd like to pay special acknowledgment to the veterans here today, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:07.000 to territorians, to serving men and women, to the families 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.840 and descendants of survivors, ladies and gentlemen, but also importantly 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.480 to our children well. 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.600 Q outrage Labor MP Manuel Brown said the Chief Minister's 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:24.200 failure to acknowledge Indigenous people was quote very concerning concerning 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.599 how what was he worried was going to happen? What's 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.280 he afraid of not to be outdone. Local indigenous elder 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.719 Richard Fedjoe Senior told local media that the Chief Minister's 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.960 o mission of acknowledgment of country was quote disgraceful. I 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.680 kind of think that if you have to divide Australians 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.240 into black and white at every public ceremony, that's kind 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:49.679 of disgraceful and very concerning. But to the Chief Minister's credit, 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.320 she did not take a backward step in the. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:53.200 Face of criticism. 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.800 She told media and I quote, I'm proud to have 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.359 acknowledged veterans at the bombing of Darwin, and as Chief Minister, 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.200 I represent all Territorians. There is absolutely no need for 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.880 every speaker at an event to do an acknowledgment of country. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.159 And in fact, the repetition that people are so used 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:13.200 to under labor is less impactful. Caleb, she won the 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.200 election last year, but when she's up for reelection, I'll 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.080 tell you what, she's got my vote just on that. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.680 Well, though, you'll have to move to the Northern Territory first, 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:22.840 but I look forward to you going through. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.920 With that promise so you can go and actually vote 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:25.080 for it. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.320 But it's what she says at the end of that 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:31.479 sentence that the repetition has made it less impactful, which 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.920 is what I've been saying for so long that you know, 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.640 if you had an occasional welcome to country performed by 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.640 an Indigenous person at a major event, we'd all sort 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.040 of move on and not particularly give a rats about it. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.320 But it gets shoved down your throat everywhere you go, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.640 and it's not good enough to have it once, You've 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.400 got to have it twice, three times for seven times 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:53.800 in this case, right. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.800 And I've felt this for years that you. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.760 Know, you have an acknowledgment at the beginning of an 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.760 event whatever, but then everyone gets up afterwards and feels. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.800 Like they need to say it. Well, the acknowledgment has 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:05.520 been done. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.000 I mean it's implicit in that acknowledgment having been done 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.840 that everyone agrees that we've now acknowledged the people who 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.880 are in the room, or perhaps not even in the room. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.120 You don't need to all do it. And the reason 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.280 they all do it is not because they actually mean it, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.200 but because it has become the pro form a thing 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.200 that you do when you get up to speak. 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:26.800 And so if you're only. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.839 Doing it because it's expected of you, it literally means nothing. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.920 It's not an acknowledgment of Indigenous people. It's an acknowledgment 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.960 of the fact that you are expected to acknowledge the 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.800 Indigenous people. I mean, it's almost like rote learning. You 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.200 just haven't see it into your brain. And then every 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:44.800 time you now, if I speak. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.080 I'm and I add my respect. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.240 So there's no point. There is absolutely no point to it. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:52.880 Get over yourself. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.320 You don't have to add yours, just not while the 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.000 first person does it, and call it quits. They had 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:59.680 exactly the same situation. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:00.839 This years ago. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:06.520 I went to an ANZAC dawn service at Willara Council. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.880 Name and shame, baby, you guys ask for it, exact 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:14.640 same thing. Every single person that. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.160 Morning wasn't about the ANZACs. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.600 It was about pain, respects, pain, respects, paying respect for 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.200 crying out loud. I was ready to scream. This was 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.640 before the days. I just started audibly booing people right. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:33.080 And here's the thing. It's at the particular events that matters, 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:38.200 because what it is doing is detracting from the actual purpose. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:39.160 Of the gathering. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:43.080 You may have heard, if you're watching the Anti Semitism Summit, 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:47.360 an audible grown when Drayfus got up and decided it 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.680 was a good idea that it was an appropriate. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:54.480 Setting to do a welcome to country. No, it's not. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.000 You are co opting somebody else's worthy cause for your 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.200 own little hobby horse. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:02.840 It is inappropriate. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.280 And when we talk about the Battle of Darwen, we 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:09.160 are talking about to this day, the nineteenth of February 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.000 nineteen forty two. We are talking about the singus biggest 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.640 attack on Australian soil by a foreign power. The japsent 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.760 two hundred and forty two aircraft in two separate attacks 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:26.240 that bombed the port of Darwin to smither greens. Thirty 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.360 of our aircraft went up in frames. Eleven of our 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.840 ships were sunk. And this was of course during World 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.800 War two, to make sure the Allies couldn't use it 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.960 as a base anymore. Ports are very important. We know 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:42.520 that what winds, wars, logistics, and nothing is more important 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:47.360 than a port during wartime. So this is an important day. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.679 It is as sacred as Anzac Day, Memorial Day. And 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:56.520 as you said, six out of the seven speakers waste 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.880 time making it about like what we're on stolen land. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.000 For crying out loud, We were trying to defend it. 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.920 Stop on the Japanese Joyce's point, you reckon, they would 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.520 have cared about the local indigenous. 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.320 I mean boom for crying out loud, Just boom when 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:21.000 we are trying to commemorate, celebrate, recognize people who gave 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.560 their lives for our freedom, et cetera. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:23.959 And so on. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.679 These kind of important events have no time for the 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.439 people that try and co opt it with this nonsense. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.520 Maybe if it's NDoc week, there's a time and a place. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.400 This ain't it to shut up? 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.440 This episode, though, proves why everybody does it, because the 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:43.920 one person who does not do it, that's all. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:44.400 You hear about. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.560 We don't know anything about what the Chief Minister spoke about. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.080 In fact, we probably would have forgotten this event was 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:51.960 on had it not been for the fact that she 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.760 neglected to perform. And perform is such a great word 0:09:55.840 --> 0:10:00.160 because it is performativenowledgement our country. It's amazing how this 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.040 has become compulsory in just a few short years. I remember, 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.560 I don't know, I guess it was fifteen twenty years ago, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.960 working for an organization. They were holding a big conference 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.600 and they were debating should we do an acknowledgment of 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:12.760 country for the first time? 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.000 The question once upon it was a question should And 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:16.840 I remember. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.000 And I was ahead of my time. I sat at 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.000 the desk and I said, just be aware if we 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.080 do this once next year. If we decide not to 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.760 do it, how will that go down? And of course 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.560 now they have to do it every single year because 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.040 the moment you don't, it's disgraceful. 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.600 It's very concerning your erasis. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.839 And a maid of mine is on the board of 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:40.960 an investment outfit and he was asked at their agem 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.080 a couple of years ago to give an acknowledgment of 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.520 country before he spoke to their investors, and he said, 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.040 I'm not going to do that. He said, who do 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:49.800 you think. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:50.880 Our investors are? 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:55.240 You know, largely older Australians, mostly conservative people, and you 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.400 want me to stand up in front of them and 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:58.920 give an acknowledgment of country? 0:10:59.080 --> 0:10:59.400 Is it that? 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.200 He's absolut ridiculous And so we didn't do it, and 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:03.000 that's what we need to do. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:03.960 We need to push back. 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.160 It's okay to not have to specifically point out other people. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.400 And that's where the jig is up because they say, 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.560 you know, indigenous manage. So it's a disgrace that I 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.480 was not specifically talked about in that speech. Well what 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.199 about every other person who lives in the Northern territory? 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.559 They want special treatment? That's the point, Yeah, of all. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.280 The premiers, I mean she's the chief minister, but same 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.880 thing if you're talking about the Northern Territory, of all 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.360 the premiers Australia wide, to actually stand up to this 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.480 virtues seedling nonsense, it's the chief Minister in the Northern 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.680 Territory saying that I've had enough. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.400 To Germany now, where. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.520 They've just had their federal election and tell you it's 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.360 a meal over there. They've got six hundred and thirty 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:52.440 people in their Bundestag, which is their federal parliament. So 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.000 unlike cass we've just got one hundred and fifty one 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.240 in the House of Reps, seventy six in the Senate. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.480 These guys, there's a lot going on. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.360 But as we knew would happen, the Conservatives have come 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:10.480 out massively on top. The Christian Democrats have gotten almost 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:14.160 thirty percent of the vote. But here's the thing. They 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.720 don't have enough to majority rule. They've got to now 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:23.200 cobble together a coalition in order to rule. So you'd 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.200 ask yourself, okay, what seems like the best thing to 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:31.240 do at the moment. The former ruling party, the SPD, 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.440 they won by such a landslide. They posted their worst 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:40.240 results since World War Two. Talk about a historical defeat. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:45.000 You've gone from being the ruling party to losing so badly. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:50.000 They are now in tatters. So you'd think that the 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.520 now ruling party, the CDU, would go, well, who came second, 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:58.239 They seem like the best bet to form a coalition 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:02.600 with and now rule. And in Germany, who came second 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.439 was the AfD with about twenty. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:06.920 Percent of the vote. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:11.760 Now together they would form a very comprehensive parliament. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.760 And while the CDU is sent to right. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.840 And the AfD is considered far right, I just say 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.240 they're legends, but it's a matter of opinion. The CDU 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.360 is refusing. They said they will form a coalition with 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:31.120 the party who literally just lost by a landslide before 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.640 they even consider partnering up with the AfD. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:39.079 What a slap in the face to the German people. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:40.320 So the ruling. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.360 Party that has just been tossed out the window posted 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.160 their worst results since World War Two. They have just 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:51.000 been tossed out so comprehensively. And now the guys that 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.480 did get up with almost thirty percent of the voter 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.640 saying we're going to pony up with these guys. I mean, 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.040 Germans must have their head in their hands right now. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:05.959 This election had eighty four percent participation rate. They don't 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:10.600 have mandatory voting over there. Eighty four percent participation rate, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.800 which is the higher since nineteen ninety, which was the 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.040 reunification of Germany. So everyone was like, let's get on board, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.680 let's get to the ballot box. Germans want to see 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:25.280 drastic change in their country, most noticeably on immigration, that's 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:30.120 no secret. And the CDU prior to this election, we're 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:34.000 trying to tighten up the immigration laws. But they got 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:40.240 newke by the SPD and the Greens, so now they're 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.120 in power and they're like, we're going to team up 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.680 with the SPD. I would be screaming my lungs out 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.000 if I was German right now. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.360 It's amazing how the AfD that's the alternative for Germany, 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.920 have been characterized as far right when really their key 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.920 policies are they not. They want to be free of 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.720 the European Union. Yes, Germans doesn't run their own country 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.200 rather than be told by Brussels what to do. And 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.239 they want to crack down on illegal immigration and particularly 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.960 asylum seekers who are in Germany committing crimes. They have 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:17.200 stabbings almost every week. There's been terrorism recently, and that's 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.880 not an uncommon thing. Now, those wouldn't seem to be 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.720 far right. And for people to say, well, you know, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.200 Germany's moved far right, I would argue, no, German leaders 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.600 have moved away from representing Germans, and Germans simply want 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:32.400 their country back. 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.280 If that's far right, I think a lot. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.720 Of people not just in Germany but in western countries 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.720 right around the world would consider themselves the same. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.520 In the Netherlands, Kayler, people were voting for geart builders. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.120 We heard the same in France when they were voting 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:51.400 fully penned, they're all they're far right. Absolutely, Oh disgusting, 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.040 it's nonsense. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:53.840 Well o F. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.520 Schultz who is currently the chancellor, and Liz was just 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.600 telling you about how well he did last time and 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.600 how bad he did this time. He's put it quite 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.960 six sinkly before I carry on, take a look at this. 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:11.280 The last time the election result was better and I 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.880 was partly responsible for that, and this time the result 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.240 is bad and I am responsible for that as well, 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.480 and I want to say that. But what's important for 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:27.760 me to say from this position is to congratulate the 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:31.400 cd U, c s U and their chancellor, candidate Frederick Mertz, 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:35.200 and congratulations on your election result, and. 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.400 He mentions merge. There he he is saying we've won 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:38.920 this election. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:48.480 We have won this election. I'd also like to say 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:53.520 a word of respect for political opponents. Yes, the electoral 0:16:53.560 --> 0:17:00.240 campaign has been it's been necessary when it came to 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.760 debates to really focus upon the many important issues facing us, 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:10.320 the economy, foreign security policy, migration of internal security. But 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.840 now we're going to speak to each other and as 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.080 soon as possible we need to get a viable government together. 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:17.800 Now. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.520 As for why the cd you wouldn't join up with 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:22.879 the AfD, I think it's got a bit of the 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.520 whiffs of what may will happen in the UK between 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:32.119 the Tories and Reform about it, where existing political powers 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:36.400 don't want to seed ground to a rising rebel power 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.520 that could well come in and take their power away 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.000 from them, so they say, okay, well, instead of letting 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.280 them in, what we'll do is actually marry up with 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.840 who are essentially our ideological enemies in. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:50.480 Order to protect ourselves. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.080 Why would you not say, okay, these are the people 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.480 who perhaps We don't agree with them one hundred percent, 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:57.639 but we agree with them a. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.440 Lot more than we agree with this mob over here. 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:01.960 And sure they're rebels and they've come through and they've 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.520 taken ground from the rest of us whatever, but that's 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.960 where the future is going. And if it's all good 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.280 and will to say, okay, well, we're not going to 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.359 do it this time, or form a government with someone else. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.560 But I think in the long term you'll be punished 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.160 for that in the same way that if the Tories 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.680 don't wake up to themselves and go, okay. 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.400 If we are in union with the Reform. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.280 Party, we've got a much better chance of a continuing 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.760 to exist and b creating a government than that can 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.480 defeat labor in the UK. 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.360 Surely that is a good thing. 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.160 Why would the CD you not go, well, let's join 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.240 up with closer ideological mates to achieve better INDs for 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:38.760 our country. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.680 And it's so shortsighted because and the same will happen 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.040 if the Tories don't come to their senses in the 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.240 UK is because. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.200 In three short years. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.679 Their AfD have doubled their share of the vote. They 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.719 went from ten percent to twenty percent. Because people can 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.040 see the decline of Germany at a rate of knots, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.560 and they want these people, though they're smeared as radicals, 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.520 to turn the country around. Now you've got the CDU 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.359 who were slapping them in the face. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.920 Should they just pony up with their SPD. 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.159 People are going to get more of the same, okay. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:20.320 And so by the next federal election in Germany, as 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.000 the AfD have already tweeted, because the writings on the wall, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.320 you won't partner with us. Come the next federal election, 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.640 we are going to wipe the floor with you, as 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.600 we did at the state elections, which is why Chancellor Schultz, 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:39.640 Chancellor no More, called this snap election. He put up 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.560 a vote of confidence knowing it would lose in order 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.359 to call this snap election. That's how bad things had gotten. 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.639 He was his own party had fallen together, the coalition 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.119 that he had put together had fallen apart, and he 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:53.960 was left. 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:54.920 With no option but. 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.840 To basically put up a motion of no confidence in 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.640 himself called this snap election. So the AfD, noting how 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.240 well they've done in the polls and seeing the writing 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.439 on the wall and the state election, which is what 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.000 caused this kerfuffle in the first place and just saying, fine, 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:12.600 you don't pony up with us. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:13.600 You wait. 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:18.359 Come the next federal election, Germany will be begging for 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.000 us and we will answer the court. 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.040 The other interesting thing about this is the Christian Democrats 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.520 have won the election with twenty nine percent, but I 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.680 believe that's the first time they've ever got less than 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.679 thirty percent. So they've won the election, but I mean 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:34.560 winning with a declining primary vote, and maybe the reason 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.399 is because they're considering partnering with the Socialist Party who 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.840 were just voted out, which is this conservative light that 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.239 people around the western world are so frustrated with. To 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:47.159 your point, in the UK, that's exactly the problem with 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.400 the Tories, that they were conservative lights. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.480 In Australia, we're going to have the same issue. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.359 And if you don't want to well, far right parties 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:59.200 will then take care of things like sovereign borders, take 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.320 care of things life, listening to the will of the 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.520