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Speaker 2: I'm wearing black cove in morning.
Speaker 3: It should be in morning.
Speaker 1: Morning was one of the worst seen in Origin for
Speaker 1: the Queenslanders.
Speaker 4: It was was the worst first half we've sent for Queenslin.
Speaker 4: But you know we're going to the cold Caudron now, Mick,
Speaker 4: and that's.
Speaker 2: There. You've got to wipe it Stralia. You're good to
Speaker 2: move on. Dave. Serious, you can't win up there. Six
Speaker 2: of the last seven we won.
Speaker 3: Up there, so that will.
Speaker 2: We trust to quote Billy, we're Queensland.
Speaker 3: Whatever that means. Okay, so you've quoted Billy.
Speaker 2: That means well you should know what it means.
Speaker 3: What it means.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of weird ones from Billy throughout this series.
Speaker 1: First it was David defered, got dropped and took it
Speaker 1: like a true Queenslander. I'm not sure. I sort of
Speaker 1: get that a little bit, but it's a bit weird.
Speaker 1: Then last night he was asked a question if he's
Speaker 1: going to make any changes for the team for Game three,
Speaker 1: and he goes, no, I haven't thought about it, but
Speaker 1: we are Queenslanders, and then crad Walter, from to his defense, goes,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: And Billy I just I.
Speaker 5: Just got the sense that Billy was just trying to
Speaker 5: get out of that press conference. He was swimming for
Speaker 5: answers and it's bizarrely that came out of his mouth.
Speaker 1: It was strange because the first bit of the answer
Speaker 1: was fine, yeah, no, you haven't thought about it.
Speaker 4: Let's get through this really big on beating the chest
Speaker 4: about being a Queensland and playing for the jersey and
Speaker 4: playing for the stadium.
Speaker 2: He always I get.
Speaker 1: That heys probably getting after getting punk, probably not the time,
Speaker 1: but even in his pregame, in his pregame interview with
Speaker 1: Cameron Smith, he spoke.
Speaker 5: About the how the entire state of Queensland are so
Speaker 5: proud of this side, and that was before the game.
Speaker 2: At times it feels like it's almost too much.
Speaker 5: I agree, don't think you should know you're the Queen
Speaker 5: like it makes us.
Speaker 4: I think he's done, like he's done an amazing job.
Speaker 4: That's not the part of that is this build building,
Speaker 4: this unity, unity, unity in the state behind this team
Speaker 4: and just constantly ever had a problem though well, there's
Speaker 4: been moments where you know, this whole, this whole furfy
Speaker 4: that queens has never turned on their team or coach.
Speaker 2: It's rubbish. Of course we did. Of course when we lose,
Speaker 2: like everyone does. We just haven't lost.
Speaker 1: Happened more cast let's wur cast now that we're onto
Speaker 1: this game three, pick and stick right, this has been
Speaker 1: None of this has been. This has been the fabrication
Speaker 1: of Queensland throughout origin's entirety. That New South Wales, they
Speaker 1: lose a game, they hang everyone out to dry. New
Speaker 1: South lost five changes? What do we budget in?
Speaker 3: How many changes will Billy?
Speaker 2: Mate?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 4: I think you make maximum two? I think maybe Dave
Speaker 4: for feed to get to look in. So when Cobbo
Speaker 4: comes back, who for well, for Feeder, probably for Sewer,
Speaker 4: i'd imagine. And then Cobbo maybe he's maybe he's on
Speaker 4: the bench and that bench roll again.
Speaker 2: I don't he won't.
Speaker 4: Make wholesale changes because we don't have the depth to
Speaker 4: make wholesale changes. Queens then don't have the options. You've
Speaker 4: got to remember no Fleggler, No Tommy Gilbert, no Tino
Speaker 4: And they missed those courts because they are the aggressive
Speaker 4: alpha males in that forward pack. They missed him last
Speaker 4: night Leam Martin bullied them, bullied them.
Speaker 1: We're just to stick on the changes for now, so
Speaker 1: you look at these are the potential guys that are
Speaker 1: in the mix.
Speaker 3: Ezra man does he does he come in for Didon?
Speaker 2: I think he's I think he's a chance.
Speaker 3: It was pretty close.
Speaker 4: I think it's a chance. It wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 4: he brings an Azra as well.
Speaker 2: But I think I don't. As I said, I'm don.
Speaker 1: And I said this before game one, you guys ridiculed me.
Speaker 1: I would not be having Valentine Holmes in the team.
Speaker 1: His club form has been diabolic.
Speaker 2: Six tackles.
Speaker 3: Last night it transferred into the Origin arena bull.
Speaker 2: Before.
Speaker 1: We won't get will. I'll be picking picking what's that?
Speaker 2: Four changes?
Speaker 3: That's what I like.
Speaker 1: And that has been awesome for Queensland, right, but he's
Speaker 1: he's been so for the North Queensland this year and
Speaker 1: that form went into last night.
Speaker 2: Can you see Billy dropping him?
Speaker 3: Well ed, he's dropped that gag bay before.
Speaker 2: That was before the series began.
Speaker 5: From prior to Game one, guys Valentine Holmes was struggling
Speaker 5: up at the Cowboys and Queensland selectors certainly made contact
Speaker 5: with Valentine to say, listen, look, you need to pull
Speaker 5: your socks up. We want to pick you. Help us
Speaker 5: make you pick you, and make us pick you.
Speaker 3: And and you.
Speaker 5: Know, he came together with about two weeks remaining before
Speaker 5: Origin one and was able to get chosen.
Speaker 3: And I think I think everything that would.
Speaker 5: That they were concerned about as far as his defense
Speaker 5: is concern came to the fall last night.
Speaker 3: I can see him being changed. I agree.
Speaker 4: I don't think it matters what you do with the
Speaker 4: backs unless you find a way to match new said
Speaker 4: laws aggression and power in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: There's only one player that can do that, Dave.
Speaker 4: Dave's not a explosively.
Speaker 3: But he's the guy that commands attention.
Speaker 2: I thought Dave should have been there from the start.
Speaker 5: It's a mentality, it's the aggression to mentality.
Speaker 3: Why are you raising this now? Because it was fine
Speaker 3: in Origin one when the stakes were desperate, but.
Speaker 1: Were desperate Origin one a little bit of a false
Speaker 1: economy too, considering what happened was absolutely and the loes
Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. You know who you're missing and it's
Speaker 1: not it's peak Forlice CAFUSI.
Speaker 2: R like, yeah, he had a bit of that, he's
Speaker 2: a bit of that.
Speaker 1: He had him definitely right, and that's no one's been
Speaker 1: able to find to get into that role again, Like
Speaker 1: Felice's best is obviously passed him.
Speaker 4: And Gilbert of the sort of god and they can
Speaker 4: all I get that performed that right, It's got a
Speaker 4: bit of that in him.
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But you're looking for someone like Felice and that that
Speaker 1: has gone past police now. Right with respect to Felice,
Speaker 1: it was an awesome player for for a long time.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they're the I'd be depends
Speaker 1: on how mars as well, and he's injury, but gag
Speaker 1: I straight in for mine. That's that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: And I'm fine on a spot for Feeda and then otherwise.
Speaker 4: I'm not dropping. I know he had a poor night,
Speaker 4: but I reckon he's done the job. For a long time,
Speaker 4: and Dane did as well. But you've moved on from Dane.
Speaker 4: Why And I thought about this knee jerk reaction. I'm like, bring,
Speaker 4: You've got to bring gaggle in.
Speaker 3: Reaction from this is for mine.
Speaker 1: They've given vow, they've given him the respect of allowing
Speaker 1: him to play in the opening two games and he
Speaker 1: was so poor last.
Speaker 5: So the difference is this Fredy where you know exactly
Speaker 5: what the Blues are going to do. It is one
Speaker 5: of the most potent sides on the footy field, that
Speaker 5: left hand side Leui latrelle brian to and that's the
Speaker 5: same the identical left edge that was in twenty twenty
Speaker 5: one when when the Blues smashed them in Perth?
Speaker 3: Was it twenty one? Sorry correct if I'm wrong, But
Speaker 3: it is the same twenty one.
Speaker 2: Left edge trod and played in three years, So that's right.
Speaker 5: So the Marines know exactly where where they're going to come.
Speaker 5: Valentine's defense hasn't been there this year. It hasn't been
Speaker 5: there this year, so he can't just flick a switch.
Speaker 5: They're going to if he gets chosen again. Their role
Speaker 5: the dice on him doing a better job of defending
Speaker 5: against Latrell.
Speaker 3: That's a massive dice to roll.
Speaker 5: The gag guy is an out and out experienced origin
Speaker 5: center who has the defensive capabilities to potentially shut Latrail
Speaker 5: down loads.
Speaker 3: As I am to tip you how to pick a team.
Speaker 4: I was going to help you advice from a couple
Speaker 4: of most to.
Speaker 3: Me would last night. What do you mean Valentine wouldn't
Speaker 3: been in my team?
Speaker 2: Okay, look, that would have changed that, correct.
Speaker 1: That's it's like the loss is not on val As
Speaker 1: you said, ready, it's got to start in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field.
Speaker 3: They got to show some aggression.
Speaker 1: They got a match Leam, Martin, Payne, Harsh and my
Speaker 1: lord and you know, I think Michael.
Speaker 3: MacGuire was I had question marks over Cam Murray.
Speaker 2: Not as a player he was great.
Speaker 3: Not as a player.
Speaker 1: Obviously, right, but the fact that he played forty nine
Speaker 1: minutes since May at the beginning of May, comes out
Speaker 1: and plays fifty minutes straight last night, and the speed
Speaker 1: of his playable Andrew Johns was just banging on about
Speaker 1: throughout the converage last night.
Speaker 2: It was all downhill for them.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 5: Of course I'm going to give you another tip ready,
Speaker 5: just to help you out. You've got to flip your
Speaker 5: wingers because you can't have Murray to a lungey on
Speaker 5: Zach Lomax and Xavier Kate's on.
Speaker 3: Brian thought, well, I think I believe that's the least
Speaker 3: because and one where he got on a step ladder
Speaker 3: to lungy.
Speaker 2: Okay, can I give you this? What about this for
Speaker 2: an idea? How about when ship fell.
Speaker 3: To the wing?
Speaker 1: That's the play gag on. I was thinking that too.
Speaker 1: If you want to keep out, I think you got
Speaker 1: to keep keep him on the wing. You blay him
Speaker 1: on the wing, and which I would have an issue with.
Speaker 3: And then which is where? Which is where? He was
Speaker 3: the world's best winger at one point, and.
Speaker 1: He's good under the high like he's got that aerial
Speaker 1: reach as well.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have an issue with that.
Speaker 4: But I just think you've got to start. I think Dave,
Speaker 4: for feed out coming back is a lady down. He's
Speaker 4: got to come back date because he's big physical guy.
Speaker 5: As you said, get what you're saying, but I mean
Speaker 5: he's still waiting for the footy. He's only going to
Speaker 5: be He's not imposing himself on the Blues.
Speaker 1: He's not the player that they're missing to fix what
Speaker 1: happened last night. But he's dying to have Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course i'd have him in flight. It was weird that
Speaker 1: he wasn't even in the tween.
Speaker 4: Man's But the other thing is we're going to Sun
Speaker 4: called boys and as I said, we've won six of
Speaker 4: the last seven.
Speaker 2: There not many news teams have gone up there and
Speaker 2: decided and won.
Speaker 4: And as good as that win was the other day,
Speaker 4: some corps, you guys know, some corps a different beast.
Speaker 2: It's a completely different beast.
Speaker 1: It's a good challenge for this new, massive.
Speaker 4: Challenge for them and they can what we're going to say.
Speaker 3: I threw this out on Twitter last night.
Speaker 5: New South Wales has recovered just three times three times
Speaker 5: to win a State of Origin series after.
Speaker 3: Being down one nil.
Speaker 5: Right, They won Game two and Game three in ninety four,
Speaker 5: two thousand and five and twenty nineteen. And the Marines
Speaker 5: have also won nine of the past ten deciders, with
Speaker 5: the Blues just one, winning twenty nine eight.
Speaker 1: And how many of those were in Brisbane too? Maybe
Speaker 1: twenty four was definitely in Brisbane.
Speaker 3: They're huge statistical advantage for Queensland.
Speaker 2: They are are they are this was a bad defeat
Speaker 2: that the Blues will win though.
Speaker 1: So what about Michael McGuire's five changes. Everyone said Michael
Speaker 1: mcgire hit the paddic button. I think we all agreed that, No,
Speaker 1: he didn't hit the panic button. And this was the
Speaker 1: side except for Latrell. Right, Patrol played himself into the
Speaker 1: side over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people thought he should have been
Speaker 2: there for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Mike mcgai didn't. No, outside of I don't
Speaker 3: think you should have either. Outside of.
Speaker 1: Outside of Latrell, those four other players Michael McGuire would
Speaker 1: have picked in game one, and I was as far
Speaker 1: to say, and you guys will well know they probably
Speaker 1: better than me that you know, a full picking an
Speaker 1: origin side in April, Michael Maguy's halst parent would have
Speaker 1: been Mitchell, Moses and Nathan Clear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, mate.
Speaker 4: So feeling that was terrific, wasn't He was.
Speaker 3: His best performance ever, his greatest career performance. Joey, you
Speaker 3: have it a nine out of ten.
Speaker 2: It was just about ten.
Speaker 4: Even defensively he was outstanding in his kicking game. I
Speaker 4: mean that's what they spoke we spoke about before when
Speaker 4: we were talking about him coming back in the team.
Speaker 4: Was his kicking game and how good his kicking game is,
Speaker 4: and it was light and shade compared to Nico in
Speaker 4: the first game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was.
Speaker 4: It sort of set the tone right the way he
Speaker 4: basically kicked him to death, and then it was just
Speaker 4: a carve up from there. I mean, you know, Mitch
Speaker 4: is probably it's probably had his daughters at origin level
Speaker 4: over the years, and he's never really grasped it or owned.
Speaker 3: He's pretty good, honestly, to be fair.
Speaker 1: But this night he did, and he produced a performance
Speaker 1: that Nathan Cleary hasn't.
Speaker 3: Yet on the original.
Speaker 1: That's a good call, Mick, And I'm not forecasting what's
Speaker 1: going to happen next year, whatever the case.
Speaker 3: Well that was interesting.
Speaker 2: Are you just declared that Moss be the TV to
Speaker 2: the clearing next year?
Speaker 3: Well that was interested.
Speaker 5: That was raised post match on nine and Joey John's
Speaker 5: discussed that how it's going to be a match race
Speaker 5: for the seven jersey.
Speaker 1: Well, if Michaelai has his way, there'll be six six seven.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Joe, as Joey said, he's concerned about what
Speaker 5: that If that actually worked.
Speaker 1: Let's get three Game three but sorry, so I look
Speaker 1: at it, we're looking at the dynasty.
Speaker 2: Stop it.
Speaker 3: He was great, though, Mitch outstanding.
Speaker 4: It's so good. There's been difficult year with injury, difficult
Speaker 4: year of club level, but he just he just don
Speaker 4: own owned the biggest stage in the game.
Speaker 3: Para fans would be frustrated. Was that I'd love to
Speaker 3: see that every week?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Probably, He's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah a guy well paramatter fans would have been excited
Speaker 1: about a guy you wrote about in today's papers Plomax, Dave.
Speaker 1: Should he just put his hand up and say I
Speaker 1: am the world's best winger? Just leave me there?
Speaker 3: One hundred percent? He should?
Speaker 5: I mean, Zach just walk into Dragons training today and
Speaker 5: just say, Shane, you were right, you were rightologized.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but you were right. Maybe you should apologize.
Speaker 3: Well, let's be honest.
Speaker 5: Let's break it down. He asked for a release because
Speaker 5: he didn't want to play on the Winner, took a
Speaker 5: pay cut. He's taking a pay cut and leaving Saint
Speaker 5: George Laulewarra to go play in the centers. Is it
Speaker 5: a fader complete that either Jason or was doing young
Speaker 5: Trent Barrett or Josh Hannay actually put this bike on
Speaker 5: in the center's at Paramatta.
Speaker 3: You can't cannot play him at center.
Speaker 2: Of course you can.
Speaker 3: He walks in.
Speaker 5: He is now, he's now the favorite to be the
Speaker 5: test winger at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I picked I picked him last week. He's been outstanding.
Speaker 4: He's I understanding, he's been outstanding. But they've signed him
Speaker 4: as a center.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was.
Speaker 1: What he the old coach Ke or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be.
Speaker 3: And they have will Or Bensony and Lace to Lungy.
Speaker 2: The centers and his fullback.
Speaker 3: Maybe Zach to not move him. He's making such a difference.
Speaker 1: Even when he's played at the center for the Dragons
Speaker 1: this year through injury, he hasn't had that same interview.
Speaker 1: He I can't remember a winger you have to go
Speaker 1: back to like Wendo at his peak and LORDI at
Speaker 1: his peak. This is the type of performance that is
Speaker 1: producing at them. He's making. Bryan Told has been great,
Speaker 1: Josh had Carver, the years have been great. Brett Morris
Speaker 1: was the best wing I've ever seen, right, but not
Speaker 1: even those guys had an impact.
Speaker 3: On the game.
Speaker 1: You love the Morris bo Brett Morris best wing. I'm saying, okay,
Speaker 1: most complete wing on the.
Speaker 3: Issue with maybe.
Speaker 2: On it was Wendell.
Speaker 1: Wend was great, he was come on, man.
Speaker 3: The knock on Zach at center was it.
Speaker 5: He overplays and he's trying too hard to come up
Speaker 5: with a play that creates something for either his winger
Speaker 5: or himself effectively.
Speaker 3: But on the wing, he only has simple choices to make.
Speaker 2: Yeah, leaping leap like.
Speaker 3: He is the best leaper in the game.
Speaker 2: This was unbelievable.
Speaker 5: It's kick for the night. His yardage carries have power
Speaker 5: and strength. He can finish a try low to the ground.
Speaker 5: He has an enormous kick when he needs.
Speaker 3: To use it as well. He could win a daily
Speaker 3: end and some other realms of possibility.
Speaker 5: Well, if he's dominating for Saint Serious, Yeah, well, he'd
Speaker 5: be pinching all the majority of the points for saying.
Speaker 2: Ben Hunt's probably on a few, I'd say.
Speaker 1: Yea, but he's just I've never seen a winger than.
Speaker 2: Ben Hut would to pinch.
Speaker 3: In rounds one and two, Zach took out both man
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 2: Where was he on the.
Speaker 1: He's okay, but.
Speaker 3: I've never seen a winger have such influence on the game.
Speaker 1: Wingers have been great finisher or great carriers or whatever.
Speaker 1: He has been changing gamesaelgwy.
Speaker 5: I said something interesting postmatch about how the mentality of
Speaker 5: Zach now is that he's going after the big moments
Speaker 5: and he pointed to his goal.
Speaker 3: He's goal kicking from the sideline.
Speaker 5: Nine mcg You've got to know all these goal kicks
Speaker 5: from the sideline, and I think that shows he's capable
Speaker 5: of handling handling the big moments too.
Speaker 3: Real maturity is game now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh no, no, don't. I don't disagree with Green.
Speaker 4: He's been outstanding this year, been fantastic. If they play
Speaker 4: him on the wing.
Speaker 1: If you're a coach at Paramatta, yeah, well.
Speaker 2: When you look at their options of the centers, So
Speaker 2: why is that going?
Speaker 1: What do you mean if Paramat are going to play
Speaker 1: him on the wing. He probably didn't think they're going
Speaker 1: to playmone when he signed.
Speaker 2: We got there's a better chance to win the comp
Speaker 2: there as well.
Speaker 5: Maybe, so he's he going to get the ships and
Speaker 5: leave Paramatta too.
Speaker 2: Well, you would hope not.
Speaker 4: He would hope not because he look a bit silly
Speaker 4: if he then turned around and backed out of the
Speaker 4: deal that he's committed.
Speaker 3: There honestly, really, if you're the coach to paramatter.
Speaker 2: No, I understand, I understand when you look at that team, but.
Speaker 3: Any team, like, how can you not pick him on
Speaker 3: the wiki? What was Zach Clomax on at the Dragon?
Speaker 3: I think it gets about eight hundred. Actually doesn't know
Speaker 3: he's now currently playing like an eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: nine hundred player. Yeah, and he's gone well for six
Speaker 3: fift and he's gone for six fifty.
Speaker 2: That's life, right.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you sometimes you make calls that, in hindsight probably
Speaker 4: weren't the best calls.
Speaker 1: You got any of those?
Speaker 2: Ready, oh man, every.
Speaker 1: Day every day.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm sure he doesn't regret he's going to
Speaker 4: a team that, Okay, they're running last at the moment,
Speaker 4: but I'm sure.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of regret. Regret you're going to
Speaker 1: throw away min dollars.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just need to put your ego in the pocket.
Speaker 2: Read man, he's got to live, he's got to learn
Speaker 2: to live with it.
Speaker 3: You've got to take oh.
Speaker 1: He hasn't complained though.
Speaker 3: Look, you know, he's created his owner decision and stuff.
Speaker 3: But that changes.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he hasn't complained, and good luck
Speaker 1: to him for not making a move based on money.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, but yeah, if i'm paramatter, i am keeping him.
Speaker 4: It's good looking back line. That paramounta back line with him.
Speaker 4: You look at that back line they played till he
Speaker 4: had fullback and you've got Gutho and Penosini and him
Speaker 4: and Mitch and Dylan Brown. It's a it's a premiership
Speaker 4: challenging back line.
Speaker 2: I think I'm not sure about the Ford.
Speaker 3: Issue.
Speaker 1: So we'll put Ready out of his misery. That's origin
Speaker 1: chat done for a little bit tough morning.
Speaker 2: You don't understand, you guys, what it's like being Queens
Speaker 2: and we're not q.
Speaker 1: It needs a bit more to us, it always has,
Speaker 1: but we're not Queenslanders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't feel two weeks time, don't get origin.
Speaker 1: We don't get it.
Speaker 3: That's okay, what is it? What is that?
Speaker 2: I'd love him to explain what exactly, Well.
Speaker 3: You should try.
Speaker 1: You guys are best. Are the NRL news broke yesterday?
Speaker 1: Stefano Tookmano potentially out of the West Tigers. Ready, can
Speaker 1: you talk us through that situation?
Speaker 4: And yeah, So basically he's got those clause in his
Speaker 4: contract that have been well documented. If he doesn't play
Speaker 4: two Origin games this year and the Tigers missed the
Speaker 4: top eight. He's a free agent at the end of
Speaker 4: the season. There was obviously not gonna play two Origin
Speaker 4: games this year and the Tigers looked like they're going
Speaker 4: to miss the top eight. Sore at a meeting with
Speaker 4: Shane Richardson and Benji Marshall a Tiger's headquarters with his
Speaker 4: wife yesterday. Basically that meeting, Tina I said, I'm majority
Speaker 4: of my footy at the moment. I like the way
Speaker 4: the club's heading, but I want to see what's out
Speaker 4: there for me and I want to see what my
Speaker 4: options are in the open market. And the club rather
Speaker 4: than waiting until they're mathematically out of top eight contention,
Speaker 4: which is technically when he's a free agent at the
Speaker 4: end of the year, they go and see what's out
Speaker 4: there for you. Now they've obviously put an offer in
Speaker 4: front of him five years, four million dollars extension and
Speaker 4: come back to us in a few weeks and we'll
Speaker 4: tell us how you feel. So that's what's kicked off now.
Speaker 4: Tino Stefano's now or his agent is exploring the open
Speaker 4: market and seeing what's out for him and He'll have
Speaker 4: plenty of interests, is no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: I think a mature decision from the Tigers, smart decision
Speaker 1: the Tigers to not give up hope.
Speaker 3: But he knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 4: I think they actually left the meeting Mick more hopeful
Speaker 4: than they were before the matting. I think they heard
Speaker 4: some pretty positive things from Stefano and his wife about
Speaker 4: the club. No, but the issue for Stefanna was he's
Speaker 4: heard this same message now from Tim Sheen's justin Pascoe,
Speaker 4: Michael Lea.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone's tell him.
Speaker 1: The same thing.
Speaker 2: Vision, we're heading in the right direction. This club's going
Speaker 2: to turn, We're going to win. And it gets to a.
Speaker 5: Point where the history's against all that exactly, and the
Speaker 5: kids sitting there going well, I've heard this all.
Speaker 2: Before and it's not about money.
Speaker 4: For him, it was you know, he's he's got a
Speaker 4: significant offer on the table right now from the Tigers.
Speaker 2: He just wants to win. He wants to go somewhere
Speaker 2: and win.
Speaker 5: Joel Caine, a former West Tiger, was quite outspoken earlier
Speaker 5: this week, declaring that the West Tigers should never have
Speaker 5: had the meeting and should just pull the extension.
Speaker 3: Now, if you.
Speaker 5: Can't see where this or if you want to be
Speaker 5: if you don't want to be part of what we're
Speaker 5: building here, so bad off you are.
Speaker 3: Well, that's fine, that's fine, you just walk out the door.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's definitively, definitively said I don't want
Speaker 4: to be part of it.
Speaker 1: But if you did that to him, you said a deadline,
Speaker 1: or you put these things on him and just go okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: sweet a huge market. With all due respect to the Tigers, Well,
Speaker 1: Joe Ka, I don't think that would have been the
Speaker 1: right player. The Tigers have done the right thing, the
Speaker 1: mature thing, where they said, okay, we know we're not
Speaker 1: going to make the eight. You haven't got those origin clauses.
Speaker 1: So instead of wait until September or August, laid August
Speaker 1: to make this decision, let's get some clarity in it.
Speaker 1: And that's not going to stop the Tigers from going
Speaker 1: around and trying to sign someone because if they do,
Speaker 1: that money won't be there. So they're doing the right
Speaker 1: thing as well. And there's no guarantee that if this
Speaker 1: drags on a little bit, that that money will still
Speaker 1: be there because the Tigers aren't sitting on their hands.
Speaker 1: The Tigers are doing the right thing.
Speaker 4: I think that's been made clear as well, that they've
Speaker 4: said him and his management go away, see what's out
Speaker 4: there for you. There's no guarantee that offer is going
Speaker 4: to be there. Will we might spend that money while
Speaker 4: you're while you're out.
Speaker 3: Who are some of the clubs that are circling.
Speaker 5: Ah, we've clearly heard. Look, I expect the Roosters, the Raiders,
Speaker 5: the Panthers, Storm Storm, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Doggies.
Speaker 1: Doggies, Yeah, yep, yep, Dogies.
Speaker 3: Potentially a long list. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The issue is he wants to go to a team
Speaker 2: it's a contender.
Speaker 1: Which does that rule out?
Speaker 4: Rules out a fair few. I don't think Camber helped
Speaker 4: their cause at the weekend. I think if Camber had
Speaker 4: come out of the weekend and given the Tigers a
Speaker 4: touch up, that would help them. But losing the way
Speaker 4: they did, I think that's probably hindered them a little bit.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think the Dogs maybe two
Speaker 4: months ago, I don't think he looked at them. I
Speaker 4: think the Dragons maybe two months ago wouldn't have looked
Speaker 4: at things that change.
Speaker 2: Both those clubs look as though there they're.
Speaker 1: On the app Dogs dogs are firing. Yeah, they're a
Speaker 1: prop and a half away from really competing.
Speaker 4: So I think that that's helped their cause. Pend with
Speaker 4: and Melbourne obvious ones, right, they're always in the mix.
Speaker 4: The Roosters as well, so.
Speaker 1: He'll are plenty of options a few other players that
Speaker 1: are on the open market at the moment. Angus Croydon
Speaker 1: sensational last night. Does his vay just keep going up
Speaker 1: or what like? It's such a strange situation where you know,
Speaker 1: the Roosters sort of stood by him last year and
Speaker 1: this year I was sort of not sure Dave Feeder
Speaker 1: was signed over the top of him, which would have
Speaker 1: squeeze him out that Dave Theeder's backley. Is there any
Speaker 1: sort of doubt in Angus's mind about staying at the
Speaker 1: Roosters or.
Speaker 2: I think there is.
Speaker 4: I think there was, Yeah, I think they're close to
Speaker 4: a deal now, but I think there has been no doubt,
Speaker 4: And I think at one point he was resigned to going,
Speaker 4: you know, he was on.
Speaker 2: The radio of other clubs.
Speaker 4: But I think he wants to stay and I think
Speaker 4: there are reasonably close to getting something done there.
Speaker 5: I know this deal is close to getting done, but
Speaker 5: Angus stops rising every week.
Speaker 1: The point in rushing and to re sign, well just
Speaker 1: because you're off contract to get it sort of certainly,
Speaker 1: and an injury happens.
Speaker 3: But you're right, Pa, last night he was so good.
Speaker 1: Just his physicality, well he just it hasn't been synonymous
Speaker 1: with angers, that physicality, like he's always been a good
Speaker 1: whole run over, but he man handled Blakes last night.
Speaker 1: And then finally, Entrepreneur, do you have an update on
Speaker 1: him as well?
Speaker 4: Well, he's just waiting for Angus to make a decision
Speaker 4: on his future and then he'll he's obviously gone to
Speaker 4: he's been given permission to go to market.
Speaker 2: They've had a look around again. Loads of clubs keen
Speaker 2: on still.
Speaker 1: A few clubs and Sport Confidential that you're interested in him.
Speaker 2: Well, man's the man.
Speaker 4: He's an obvious one that's quite keen on him because
Speaker 4: obviously he got the Josh Shuster money.
Speaker 2: But he fit in there.
Speaker 1: He plays plays an edge, whether the edges look what.
Speaker 2: Look can also move still he could play in the
Speaker 2: middle and they can.
Speaker 3: The Galeen Morning edge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so but he's got he's waiting for Angus Crichton's
Speaker 4: future to be resolved and then they'll go hard on
Speaker 4: the open market expansion.
Speaker 1: Boys just quickly another development yesterday.
Speaker 5: So it's been ratified by the Commission yesterday that we're
Speaker 5: going to twenty teams in the future.
Speaker 1: Well I don't think they specifically, but yeah, decided it
Speaker 1: will be. Yeah, it will be.
Speaker 4: They basically said, hey, come to us, show us what
Speaker 4: you got pitched to us.
Speaker 1: To consortiums will be eighteen per nineteen p twenty two determined.
Speaker 2: I suggest South Island, New Zealand.
Speaker 1: A second team in New Zealand is most like the Bears.
Speaker 4: What's happening with the Bears? Mick, Wow, you've been all
Speaker 4: over this. What's going with the Bears?
Speaker 1: There's obviously give them some hope. The hope is that
Speaker 1: people are still talking about them. But the Bears could
Speaker 1: lose the unlosable here potentially where the Western Australian government
Speaker 1: have essentially been told that the NRL's preference is that
Speaker 1: they partner with an East Coast team, and originally most
Speaker 1: everyone thought that was going to be the Bears, and
Speaker 1: then the Jets have come in the background a little
Speaker 1: bit and really gained momentum over the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks a race horse shit John Singleton as he said,
Speaker 1: it's come on board and said he prepared to do
Speaker 1: what it takes. There's other investors now that are worth
Speaker 1: millions of dollars of multi millionaires and have come on
Speaker 1: and said they're going to tip in if it's just
Speaker 1: the Jets. And if you speak to the people in
Speaker 1: Western Australia, their preferences to go it alone if they're
Speaker 1: forced to go with the East Coast side, definitely their
Speaker 1: preferences the Jets. But there's no doubt the Bears have
Speaker 1: some heavyweight support led by the commissioned a ped of
Speaker 1: land Is and I think that's where the Bears have
Speaker 1: the advantage because the decision makers are those that want
Speaker 1: them to bring the Bears back. But the Bears just
Speaker 1: need to temper their expectations, i'd suggest, and Newtown aren't
Speaker 1: asking for anything, you know, maybe one game or definitely
Speaker 1: a preseason game. Henson or Henson's not up to scratch.
Speaker 1: I'll play it at Leichhard or somewhere in Sydney. But
Speaker 1: they're bringing with them lots of cash. The Jets.
Speaker 5: The obvious topic that everyone discusses when we talk about
Speaker 5: expansion is is there enough depth in the competition to
Speaker 5: have more teams? And I think the Dolphins have proven
Speaker 5: just and I think it's proven to the Commission as well.
Speaker 3: It's open their eyes to the fact that this can work.
Speaker 3: There is enough talent.
Speaker 5: What the Dolphins have achieved is extraordinary, I believe in
Speaker 5: the first two seasons. And I actually go back to
Speaker 5: the last week's Under nine ENS game. I thought the
Speaker 5: standard of that Under nine NS game was that the path,
Speaker 5: pathways and quality of talent below NRL is ready to go.
Speaker 4: The only shure I have David this talk they'll go
Speaker 4: per twenty seven P and G twenty eight and to
Speaker 4: find sixty players in two seasons, I think you've.
Speaker 2: Got to space out a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: I don't I think maybe twenty seven to twenty nine.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can get twenty seven to twenty eight.
Speaker 4: I think that's too much strain on the player.
Speaker 1: And complicating that is that PNG's a hard sell. So
Speaker 1: if you're bringing the team in before PNG, which looks
Speaker 1: like the case, there's thirty players that they don't have
Speaker 1: access to and they're going to need all the help
Speaker 1: they can get to a track.
Speaker 4: Players, Well, they need to get their pathway set up
Speaker 4: and start churning out some footballers.
Speaker 1: They will just ten years away that best best case scenario.
Speaker 1: They are doing that in their defense. They are setting
Speaker 1: up those pathways and the like. Get us some questions,
Speaker 1: boys from Jym zap How do we change the seven
Speaker 1: tackle set rule so it only self flies to people
Speaker 1: deliberately kicking the board dead.
Speaker 2: Sure, mate, and this is my real change your burner account.
Speaker 2: That's burner account for him.
Speaker 3: If you've been listening, I think bigger things to tackle.
Speaker 5: See what happens is the questions come in and Mick
Speaker 5: Carry is our executive producer of the show, and so
Speaker 5: he vets them, but also categorizes them and ranking order.
Speaker 3: And he's gone with his rule.
Speaker 1: That's the most important question we've ever had.
Speaker 3: Support, Jim zapf. I've said before, and anyone else is listening,
Speaker 3: don't ring in, don't email.
Speaker 5: Don't text questions about rule changes unless it's about disruptor.
Speaker 2: What about how mixes is going? Support, he's your mate.
Speaker 2: You've got him. Said that.
Speaker 1: I didn't get Barbie your house, said.
Speaker 2: Jimmy, send it an email.
Speaker 3: And putting on question a person because is gone. If
Speaker 3: you don't see has with with house.
Speaker 1: Current resurgence, can we lay blame for their form slap
Speaker 1: slowly on JD's feet he left, they improved.
Speaker 3: No, that's no, they've got players back.
Speaker 1: They got players. That does help be doing a great job.
Speaker 4: But all on.
Speaker 1: Seriage wants to know, Hey, guys, would you rather your
Speaker 1: state winning, State of Origin?
Speaker 3: Your club winning the premiership? Would you rather club winning?
Speaker 1: Well, I know, premiership everything out of the work, that's
Speaker 1: what this guy is going to say.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what you don't get Origin.
Speaker 2: Origin every day of the week, every day.
Speaker 3: They don't want the Broncos to win the comp. I'd
Speaker 3: rather it's been a while, you've forgotten what it's like
Speaker 3: to win a comp. So hang on. So Queensland when this,
Speaker 3: when this is Origin series, you're going to go off.
Speaker 2: I'd rather Origin, you know what, because we are Queensland.
Speaker 1: Billy.
Speaker 5: Every discussion post Queensland winning this series, when the Broncos
Speaker 5: come up right about winning content, queens don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't care. It was the question was what's your
Speaker 2: preference for a Queenslander. It's always been in Origin.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's for your retort after winning the
Speaker 5: C series and we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna win the series.
Speaker 3: This is what's happening.
Speaker 5: If you win the on board, if you win this series,
Speaker 5: your retort should But it doesn't matter if the Broncos
Speaker 5: don't win this year won.
Speaker 1: The series performing mate, I'm definitely team Premiership.
Speaker 2: You don't get origin easily.
Speaker 3: Easily? Why can't I have both?
Speaker 1: John d wants to know why would a Perth JV
Speaker 1: partnership work when the Dragons and Saint George Laurior is
Speaker 1: shown they don't work. Both clubs have controversy to their
Speaker 1: history together. Dolphriends have shown stand alone is the way to.
Speaker 2: Go, Dragons run a camp.
Speaker 5: When in twenty teniers ever since, both joint ventures have
Speaker 5: been a mess. Johnsy is absolutely spot on they do
Speaker 5: not work. You cannot force marriages. Really knows this, No
Speaker 5: he doesn't, but that couldn't be happier. That's to your point.
Speaker 5: Around North Sydney and Perth. I think the Jets work
Speaker 5: because the Jets aren't asking for anything. They're bringing stuff
Speaker 5: to the table. Yeah, and that I think it's going
Speaker 5: to be a tough sell.
Speaker 2: I reckon the issue with the other yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: I think the issue is the Dragons and Tigers. They're
Speaker 4: both sort of fifty. The Tigers are more Western suburbs
Speaker 4: and Balmain.
Speaker 1: Well, the Dragons try to be fifty to fifty by
Speaker 1: the fact Steelers not having any money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's started all Dragons and it's.
Speaker 1: Slowly infiltrated to slight the fact the Dragon Sat George
Speaker 1: had all the money. Yep, Steelers. You know, they're covering
Speaker 1: the Steelers debts and the like. Now with win there,
Speaker 1: really Saint George Lee's club should have just bought the
Speaker 1: Steeler share out.
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's the Perth Bears. I mean, this is part
Speaker 4: of the issue with the Perth Bears. The Bears want
Speaker 4: too much and they're actually not bringing a whole lot
Speaker 4: to the table other than her name.
Speaker 1: And a.
Speaker 3: Fan base and the like right where it.
Speaker 2: Don't need them, don't need them. The Bears need Perth.
Speaker 2: Perth don't need the best.
Speaker 1: And this is why P and G hopped off the
Speaker 1: Bears bus straight away because I like, this is all
Speaker 1: too much. We don't need you guys. So that's where
Speaker 1: the Jets are bring in but not taking. Yes, So
Speaker 1: that's so John T. One hundred percent ride. It's going
Speaker 1: to be very interesting, Johnty.
Speaker 2: When I actually keep going, I tell the story. Okay,
Speaker 2: good johnsy rides to creep. Just think I look like him?
Speaker 3: Could you feel like him?
Speaker 2: Is magnificent?
Speaker 3: You see the email.
Speaker 2: Less power or glasses?
Speaker 1: Hello, there are some emails. I got lots of emails
Speaker 1: this week, so thank you for all that. I haven't
Speaker 1: wants to know. Just wondering why there's been no talk
Speaker 1: about Malmininger for the Paramattic coaching job. Is he not
Speaker 1: interested in coaching in the NRL. I think I think
Speaker 1: that all.
Speaker 3: Went pear shape when Male was connected to the Sawski, which.
Speaker 1: Was only a short term Stinter. I don't think Mal's
Speaker 1: going to be. Male's not an NROL head coach anymore.
Speaker 1: That's south Stin appealed because he was only going to
Speaker 1: be for the rest of the year, and obviously he'd
Speaker 1: come at something like that, but not an NROL head coach.
Speaker 1: So that's why he's not linked there, and he's very
Speaker 1: happy coaching the kangaroos. All right, this was a long email,
Speaker 1: so I've just paraphrased this for Matt. He's been an
Speaker 1: Eels fan for forty two years. Remember for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: If they're being counters at the Eels club, he's been
Speaker 1: listening to hoops old. Mat think sacking Brad Arthur is
Speaker 1: a solution to the dramas. They aren't too smart. How
Speaker 1: did the current board keep their jobs? The fans and
Speaker 1: members had enough, They laughing stuff the NROL. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of getting rid of my memberships for me and my
Speaker 1: three kids. Well, Matt, don't do that, Matt, I think
Speaker 1: says stays strong, make good time becoming. I think getting
Speaker 1: rid of Brad been sacked was the right decision. And
Speaker 1: now they're on a path to finding someone else, and
Speaker 1: I'll judge. I'll judge these guys on who they appoint next,
Speaker 1: because Brad was already there when most of the current
Speaker 1: management structure came in. So Matt, be patient and have
Speaker 1: some faith. I've got some faith in the guys making
Speaker 1: the decisions out.
Speaker 5: Maddie, I just take this into account. I think your
Speaker 5: question is speaking to you delaying the inevitable. Brad Arthur
Speaker 5: wasn't going to be the coach at the Paramatteriels in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, and so therefore the Paramatter board thought
Speaker 5: if that's not the case. And given the amount of
Speaker 5: players off contract on contract and when you need to
Speaker 5: make decisions on players' careers, they believed it was better
Speaker 5: to go now, knowing that he wasn't going to be
Speaker 5: there much longer, So rip the band aid off, get
Speaker 5: it done, and start this process for the future right now.
Speaker 5: And yes, it's painful, and yes, I could understand why
Speaker 5: Brad feels like that they went too early, given the
Speaker 5: amount of injured players that were on the sideline at
Speaker 5: the time of his sacking. But it honestly, I think
Speaker 5: deep down in Brad's mind he knew that he wasn't
Speaker 5: going to be there potentially potentially even next year. So
Speaker 5: I think I think it's a case of getting the
Speaker 5: train rolling now instead of delaying it another twelve toweight
Speaker 5: ten months.
Speaker 1: All right, interesting question here from Chris. The dominance of
Speaker 1: the Storm and the Roosters for the past decade, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, comes down to stability at the head coaching role.
Speaker 1: So both Robinson and Bellamy have been far less ambitious
Speaker 1: for new challenges than the previous generation was. In your opinion,
Speaker 1: what type of coach is more successful those like Robinson
Speaker 1: or Bennett who have stayed Robinson and Bellamy, or those
Speaker 1: who have sustained success in a long time, or those
Speaker 1: have gone for different clubs and brought success like Bennett.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, right where do we rank? Because I think
Speaker 1: Wayne Wayne ticks both boxes, Okay, because he's had success
Speaker 1: at Broncos for twenty of us want to comp at
Speaker 1: the Dragons.
Speaker 4: Yeps coach in the game's history.
Speaker 1: Arsel got into a prelium and then it fell apart,
Speaker 1: and now the Dolphins the eight this year has been
Speaker 1: an ausus.
Speaker 2: He's the best.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't necessarily think he's the best right now,
Speaker 4: but I think he's been. If you if you look
Speaker 4: at someone's career, he's been the best coach and teams
Speaker 4: of his career.
Speaker 2: But I think right now, Craig and.
Speaker 4: Robber, you can argue a potentially potentially better coaches than
Speaker 4: him right now.
Speaker 3: Look, I believe Wayne's the best coach we've seen.
Speaker 5: And I say that because of everything that Chris is
Speaker 5: talking about, how he has moved around to different clubs,
Speaker 5: found success at those clubs.
Speaker 3: Not every club.
Speaker 5: The Knights was a bit of a battle, but he
Speaker 5: did take him to the finals, and I think that's
Speaker 5: the greatest test of a coach to adjust.
Speaker 3: At a new environment. I'm a massive fan of Craig Bellamy.
Speaker 5: I think he's a champion fella and clearly an outstanding coach. However,
Speaker 5: I can't get away from the fact that down in
Speaker 5: Melbourne they are isolated, they are out of the spotlight.
Speaker 5: Craig can run his own race as far as training
Speaker 5: without any issue, no speculation of this player, that player's injury.
Speaker 3: And it's one of the major reasons.
Speaker 5: He didn't get to the Brisbane Broncos because he would
Speaker 5: have been coaching under a spotlight. And I think that's
Speaker 5: a major factor when you actually, you know, you think
Speaker 5: about every little.
Speaker 3: Miniature factor that makes up coaching.
Speaker 5: To do it in an environment where you can just
Speaker 5: do it on your own time, I think that helps
Speaker 5: your cause.
Speaker 3: And that's where Craig has at Melbourne.
Speaker 5: Robbo has had a hugely supportive board and financially savvy
Speaker 5: leader in Nick Politis to have a strong roster every
Speaker 5: single year.
Speaker 1: I think with the reason Wayne is the greatest, who
Speaker 1: is because of the reasons that Chris mentions, the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, how do we judge it? I think there's
Speaker 1: something that can be said for Craig and Lay doing
Speaker 1: it for twenty years. If that's hard to try to
Speaker 1: stay relevant at the one but because can cherry pick,
Speaker 1: you can go to another club and just implement the
Speaker 1: same try and implement the same things. And there's a
Speaker 1: freshness to that anyway. But to stay fresh at the
Speaker 1: one place. But Wayne's been able to.
Speaker 3: Do that plus have success.
Speaker 1: And also when and if he comes out and wins
Speaker 1: a comp at South Sydney, like, no one's wont to
Speaker 1: camp as a coach at three clubs, right, that would
Speaker 1: be the ultimate my greatest clinice. Right, last question, boys,
Speaker 1: at what point from Josh, at what point does the
Speaker 1: NROL need to make sure that coaches aren't taking the
Speaker 1: mickey we're naming the team sell Anthony Seaboard named Tommy
Speaker 1: Tall on the wing, but played him in the halves.
Speaker 1: Cane Lord and Lord and a halfback played him in
Speaker 1: the back row. Jackson Barlow at center played him on
Speaker 1: the wing. Ohla blah blah blah. What's the difference in
Speaker 1: naming your front rowers on the wing At this point,
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue with it. It's a bit
Speaker 1: of like if it became a thing where every week
Speaker 1: they'll just name different players in these positions. But I
Speaker 1: actually don't mind those games a little bit where it's
Speaker 1: not clear.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, no one picked up the Tommy's I
Speaker 4: was playing in the halfs except you, buddy on the sideline,
Speaker 4: you picked it up.
Speaker 1: It was uit pretty obvious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite obvious.
Speaker 4: But mainly yesterday and he said, yeah Tommy, Tommy actually
Speaker 4: played school boys.
Speaker 1: And YE.
Speaker 3: Played Yeah that he started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was a little bit like I had
Speaker 1: the head start because you'd mentioned the fact that it
Speaker 1: might happen, and then when I.
Speaker 3: Was doing sideline, I saw it.
Speaker 1: I watched for it, right, But yeah, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't have an issue with any issue boys.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right. That's not that's the thing,
Speaker 3: because that was.
Speaker 2: Taking the mickey to be an issue, But I mean.
Speaker 1: Voyage on the wing, you'd be like, what's going on,
Speaker 1: But the fact that there was such an unknown about
Speaker 1: that side. I think it works in that instance, but
Speaker 1: if it becomes a weekly thing, i'd be If it
Speaker 1: happens once or twice, you actually don't mind.
Speaker 5: It, to be fair, mate, You're using an example during
Speaker 5: the State of Origin period where mainly had a huge
Speaker 5: influence on both teams, and you know their changes were
Speaker 5: never going to be clear anyway, and given their current
Speaker 5: in jury crisis.
Speaker 3: As I said, it's not right throughout the game.
Speaker 5: Certainly coaches do it, and obviously the impact on gambling
Speaker 5: and when you're having a bed on a on a game,
Speaker 5: you want to get its close to the team that
Speaker 5: runs out. So if it was, if it was right
Speaker 5: throughout the game, but have an issue with it, but.
Speaker 3: Joshua with you just not yet.
Speaker 1: If it becomes a trend, then you know we'd definitely
Speaker 1: jump across it. All right, Boys Dinner, Women's Origin. Tonight's
Speaker 1: get to be a beauty so down watch that'll be awesome.
Speaker 1: So we get a chance to have Thursday Night forty
Speaker 1: to It's weird if there's no Thursday Night for you
Speaker 1: but been a Thursday Night forty tonight? What are we watching?
Speaker 1: What are we eating with it?
Speaker 5: Well, Thursdays are tough for me because it's it's the.
Speaker 3: Last caring, but I get around them.
Speaker 5: It'll be something easy. I think we're going to go
Speaker 5: just down the chicken wrap path. Now you know when
Speaker 5: you go the chicken wrap, do you go the full
Speaker 5: lebonones bread.
Speaker 3: Or the Woolworth style rap depends.
Speaker 2: On what.
Speaker 4: Pe Lemonese bread. It's too thick, it's too yeah, have
Speaker 4: that sort of thing bread. Yeah, because I'm.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I love so lucky.
Speaker 3: But I'm not just going to box chicken rat which.
Speaker 2: What are you on?
Speaker 3: No? No, it's you get a little bit of homits
Speaker 3: on there. Oh yeah, and then some roasted yeah. Touch
Speaker 3: and chili. I love chili fresh chili there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's almost like a barn me.
Speaker 3: You're getting closer to know anyway.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: About you, Rednner.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh, I'm sorry so last night no no, no, sorry?
Speaker 3: And what did you do for original I dinner? We
Speaker 3: had a good feed.
Speaker 1: Why say? This is a Greek dish Clara made like
Speaker 1: I used to making ashes taken over. It's called cleptical,
Speaker 1: which is stolen lamb. It is amazing stolen lamb.
Speaker 4: We just steal it from the theft.
Speaker 1: So good, I'll send you there. It's actually easy to cook.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's called stolen lamb.
Speaker 2: It's just marinated and something or yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like in a castle rolled dish. It's slow cooked
Speaker 1: and it is with cheese. This like this feta cheese
Speaker 1: and this other Greek cheese. We're on air, which is awesome.
Speaker 1: It is so good.
Speaker 4: We had I had chicken wings in their forg and
Speaker 4: stuff because my yeah not Christian enough but chrisp what sauce,
Speaker 4: buffalo and a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 2: Smoky barbec. So my sister in law was down with
Speaker 2: my nieces.
Speaker 4: My brother in law stayed in Brisbane, his blood Adam,
Speaker 4: but the sister was down with the kids. And the
Speaker 4: youngest daughter plays rugby league. Okay, so she's going to
Speaker 4: want to watch the women's game. So I think what
Speaker 4: we'll do.
Speaker 3: Is you want to watch the women I want to
Speaker 3: watch it.
Speaker 2: But we'll probably go out for dinner. I think we
Speaker 2: might go to.
Speaker 4: Alice is dumpling and manly, which does Chinese. I love dumplings, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it doesn't. Doesn't just do dumpling.
Speaker 2: It's Charlie dumplings. Yeah, dumplings are very good. So I
Speaker 2: think that's what we'll do. We'll have to go out
Speaker 2: for dinner.
Speaker 3: Alice, she's a good chef.
Speaker 2: Alice is outstanding.
Speaker 3: What did you have last night? It was rare.
Speaker 1: We were home for origin, which is very rare.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I had a MUSLM and curry.
Speaker 3: Oh lovely chicken. Yeah, that's the buzz area. Is that
Speaker 3: like a takeaway? Man made? That's it.
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