WEBVTT - State of Discontent

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to the Daily Telegraph and URL podcast. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave and I have a spring in our step, and

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube because it's very flash. But more importantly, don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>mister glass House over here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing black cove in morning.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be in morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Morning was one of the worst seen in Origin for

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<v Speaker 1>the Queenslanders.

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<v Speaker 4>It was was the worst first half we've sent for Queenslin.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know we're going to the cold Caudron now, Mick,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>There. You've got to wipe it Stralia. You're good to

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<v Speaker 2>move on. Dave. Serious, you can't win up there. Six

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<v Speaker 2>of the last seven we won.

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<v Speaker 3>Up there, so that will.

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<v Speaker 2>We trust to quote Billy, we're Queensland.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever that means. Okay, so you've quoted Billy.

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<v Speaker 2>That means well you should know what it means.

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<v Speaker 3>What it means.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of weird ones from Billy throughout this series.

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<v Speaker 1>First it was David defered, got dropped and took it

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<v Speaker 1>like a true Queenslander. I'm not sure. I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>get that a little bit, but it's a bit weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Then last night he was asked a question if he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to make any changes for the team for Game three,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, no, I haven't thought about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are Queenslanders, and then crad Walter, from to his defense, goes,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>And Billy I just I.

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<v Speaker 5>Just got the sense that Billy was just trying to

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<v Speaker 5>get out of that press conference. He was swimming for

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<v Speaker 5>answers and it's bizarrely that came out of his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>It was strange because the first bit of the answer

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<v Speaker 1>was fine, yeah, no, you haven't thought about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's get through this really big on beating the chest

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<v Speaker 4>about being a Queensland and playing for the jersey and

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<v Speaker 4>playing for the stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>He always I get.

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<v Speaker 1>That heys probably getting after getting punk, probably not the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but even in his pregame, in his pregame interview with

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron Smith, he spoke.

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<v Speaker 5>About the how the entire state of Queensland are so

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<v Speaker 5>proud of this side, and that was before the game.

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<v Speaker 2>At times it feels like it's almost too much.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree, don't think you should know you're the Queen

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<v Speaker 5>like it makes us.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's done, like he's done an amazing job.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not the part of that is this build building,

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<v Speaker 4>this unity, unity, unity in the state behind this team

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<v Speaker 4>and just constantly ever had a problem though well, there's

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<v Speaker 4>been moments where you know, this whole, this whole furfy

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<v Speaker 4>that queens has never turned on their team or coach.

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<v Speaker 2>It's rubbish. Of course we did. Of course when we lose,

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone does. We just haven't lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened more cast let's wur cast now that we're onto

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<v Speaker 1>this game three, pick and stick right, this has been

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<v Speaker 1>None of this has been. This has been the fabrication

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<v Speaker 1>of Queensland throughout origin's entirety. That New South Wales, they

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<v Speaker 1>lose a game, they hang everyone out to dry. New

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<v Speaker 1>South lost five changes? What do we budget in?

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<v Speaker 3>How many changes will Billy?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate?

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<v Speaker 3>Mate?

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<v Speaker 4>I think you make maximum two? I think maybe Dave

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<v Speaker 4>for feed to get to look in. So when Cobbo

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<v Speaker 4>comes back, who for well, for Feeder, probably for Sewer,

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<v Speaker 4>i'd imagine. And then Cobbo maybe he's maybe he's on

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<v Speaker 4>the bench and that bench roll again.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't he won't.

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<v Speaker 4>Make wholesale changes because we don't have the depth to

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<v Speaker 4>make wholesale changes. Queens then don't have the options. You've

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<v Speaker 4>got to remember no Fleggler, No Tommy Gilbert, no Tino

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<v Speaker 4>And they missed those courts because they are the aggressive

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<v Speaker 4>alpha males in that forward pack. They missed him last

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<v Speaker 4>night Leam Martin bullied them, bullied them.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just to stick on the changes for now, so

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<v Speaker 1>you look at these are the potential guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Ezra man does he does he come in for Didon?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's I think he's a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>It was pretty close.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a chance. It wouldn't surprise me if

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<v Speaker 4>he brings an Azra as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I don't. As I said, I'm don.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said this before game one, you guys ridiculed me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be having Valentine Holmes in the team.

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<v Speaker 1>His club form has been diabolic.

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<v Speaker 2>Six tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night it transferred into the Origin arena bull.

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<v Speaker 2>Before.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't get will. I'll be picking picking what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Four changes?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>And that has been awesome for Queensland, right, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's been so for the North Queensland this year and

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<v Speaker 1>that form went into last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you see Billy dropping him?

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<v Speaker 3>Well ed, he's dropped that gag bay before.

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<v Speaker 2>That was before the series began.

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<v Speaker 5>From prior to Game one, guys Valentine Holmes was struggling

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<v Speaker 5>up at the Cowboys and Queensland selectors certainly made contact

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<v Speaker 5>with Valentine to say, listen, look, you need to pull

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<v Speaker 5>your socks up. We want to pick you. Help us

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<v Speaker 5>make you pick you, and make us pick you.

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<v Speaker 3>And and you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, he came together with about two weeks remaining before

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<v Speaker 5>Origin one and was able to get chosen.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I think everything that would.

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<v Speaker 5>That they were concerned about as far as his defense

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<v Speaker 5>is concern came to the fall last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see him being changed. I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it matters what you do with the

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<v Speaker 4>backs unless you find a way to match new said

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<v Speaker 4>laws aggression and power in the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one player that can do that, Dave.

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<v Speaker 4>Dave's not a explosively.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's the guy that commands attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Dave should have been there from the start.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a mentality, it's the aggression to mentality.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you raising this now? Because it was fine

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<v Speaker 3>in Origin one when the stakes were desperate, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Were desperate Origin one a little bit of a false

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<v Speaker 1>economy too, considering what happened was absolutely and the loes

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that bad. You know who you're missing and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's peak Forlice CAFUSI.

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<v Speaker 2>R like, yeah, he had a bit of that, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He had him definitely right, and that's no one's been

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<v Speaker 1>able to find to get into that role again, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Felice's best is obviously passed him.

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<v Speaker 4>And Gilbert of the sort of god and they can

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<v Speaker 4>all I get that performed that right, It's got a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of that in him.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're looking for someone like Felice and that that

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<v Speaker 1>has gone past police now. Right with respect to Felice,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an awesome player for for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think they're the I'd be depends

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<v Speaker 1>on how mars as well, and he's injury, but gag

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<v Speaker 1>I straight in for mine. That's that's a no brainer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm fine on a spot for Feeda and then otherwise.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not dropping. I know he had a poor night,

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<v Speaker 4>but I reckon he's done the job. For a long time,

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<v Speaker 4>and Dane did as well. But you've moved on from Dane.

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<v Speaker 4>Why And I thought about this knee jerk reaction. I'm like, bring,

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to bring gaggle in.

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<v Speaker 3>Reaction from this is for mine.

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<v Speaker 1>They've given vow, they've given him the respect of allowing

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<v Speaker 1>him to play in the opening two games and he

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<v Speaker 1>was so poor last.

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<v Speaker 5>So the difference is this Fredy where you know exactly

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<v Speaker 5>what the Blues are going to do. It is one

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<v Speaker 5>of the most potent sides on the footy field, that

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<v Speaker 5>left hand side Leui latrelle brian to and that's the

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<v Speaker 5>same the identical left edge that was in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>one when when the Blues smashed them in Perth?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it twenty one? Sorry correct if I'm wrong, But

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<v Speaker 3>it is the same twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Left edge trod and played in three years, So that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Marines know exactly where where they're going to come.

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<v Speaker 5>Valentine's defense hasn't been there this year. It hasn't been

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<v Speaker 5>there this year, so he can't just flick a switch.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to if he gets chosen again. Their role

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<v Speaker 5>the dice on him doing a better job of defending

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<v Speaker 5>against Latrell.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a massive dice to roll.

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<v Speaker 5>The gag guy is an out and out experienced origin

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<v Speaker 5>center who has the defensive capabilities to potentially shut Latrail

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<v Speaker 5>down loads.

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<v Speaker 3>As I am to tip you how to pick a team.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to help you advice from a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of most to.

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<v Speaker 3>Me would last night. What do you mean Valentine wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>been in my team?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, look, that would have changed that, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it's like the loss is not on val As

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<v Speaker 1>you said, ready, it's got to start in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the field.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to show some aggression.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a match Leam, Martin, Payne, Harsh and my

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<v Speaker 1>lord and you know, I think Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>MacGuire was I had question marks over Cam Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as a player he was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Not as a player.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, right, but the fact that he played forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>minutes since May at the beginning of May, comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and plays fifty minutes straight last night, and the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of his playable Andrew Johns was just banging on about

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the converage last night.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all downhill for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course I'm going to give you another tip ready,

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<v Speaker 5>just to help you out. You've got to flip your

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<v Speaker 5>wingers because you can't have Murray to a lungey on

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<v Speaker 5>Zach Lomax and Xavier Kate's on.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian thought, well, I think I believe that's the least

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<v Speaker 3>because and one where he got on a step ladder

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<v Speaker 3>to lungy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, can I give you this? What about this for

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<v Speaker 2>an idea? How about when ship fell.

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<v Speaker 3>To the wing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the play gag on. I was thinking that too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to keep out, I think you got

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<v Speaker 1>to keep keep him on the wing. You blay him

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<v Speaker 1>on the wing, and which I would have an issue with.

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<v Speaker 3>And then which is where? Which is where? He was

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<v Speaker 3>the world's best winger at one point, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's good under the high like he's got that aerial

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<v Speaker 1>reach as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have an issue with that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just think you've got to start. I think Dave,

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<v Speaker 4>for feed out coming back is a lady down. He's

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<v Speaker 4>got to come back date because he's big physical guy.

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<v Speaker 5>As you said, get what you're saying, but I mean

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<v Speaker 5>he's still waiting for the footy. He's only going to

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<v Speaker 5>be He's not imposing himself on the Blues.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not the player that they're missing to fix what

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<v Speaker 1>happened last night. But he's dying to have Yeah, of

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<v Speaker 1>course i'd have him in flight. It was weird that

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't even in the tween.

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<v Speaker 4>Man's But the other thing is we're going to Sun

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<v Speaker 4>called boys and as I said, we've won six of

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<v Speaker 4>the last seven.

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<v Speaker 2>There not many news teams have gone up there and

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<v Speaker 2>decided and won.

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<v Speaker 4>And as good as that win was the other day,

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<v Speaker 4>some corps, you guys know, some corps a different beast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a completely different beast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good challenge for this new, massive.

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<v Speaker 4>Challenge for them and they can what we're going to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I threw this out on Twitter last night.

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<v Speaker 5>New South Wales has recovered just three times three times

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<v Speaker 5>to win a State of Origin series after.

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<v Speaker 3>Being down one nil.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, They won Game two and Game three in ninety four,

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and five and twenty nineteen. And the Marines

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<v Speaker 5>have also won nine of the past ten deciders, with

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<v Speaker 5>the Blues just one, winning twenty nine eight.

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<v Speaker 1>And how many of those were in Brisbane too? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four was definitely in Brisbane.

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<v Speaker 3>They're huge statistical advantage for Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>They are are they are this was a bad defeat

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<v Speaker 2>that the Blues will win though.

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<v Speaker 1>So what about Michael McGuire's five changes. Everyone said Michael

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<v Speaker 1>mcgire hit the paddic button. I think we all agreed that, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't hit the panic button. And this was the

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<v Speaker 1>side except for Latrell. Right, Patrol played himself into the

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<v Speaker 1>side over the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people thought he should have been

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<v Speaker 2>there for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but Mike mcgai didn't. No, outside of I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think you should have either. Outside of.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of Latrell, those four other players Michael McGuire would

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<v Speaker 1>have picked in game one, and I was as far

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<v Speaker 1>to say, and you guys will well know they probably

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<v Speaker 1>better than me that you know, a full picking an

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<v Speaker 1>origin side in April, Michael Maguy's halst parent would have

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<v Speaker 1>been Mitchell, Moses and Nathan Clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, mate.

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<v Speaker 4>So feeling that was terrific, wasn't He was.

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<v Speaker 3>His best performance ever, his greatest career performance. Joey, you

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<v Speaker 3>have it a nine out of ten.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just about ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Even defensively he was outstanding in his kicking game. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean that's what they spoke we spoke about before when

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<v Speaker 4>we were talking about him coming back in the team.

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<v Speaker 4>Was his kicking game and how good his kicking game is,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was light and shade compared to Nico in

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<v Speaker 4>the first game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It sort of set the tone right the way he

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<v Speaker 4>basically kicked him to death, and then it was just

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<v Speaker 4>a carve up from there. I mean, you know, Mitch

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<v Speaker 4>is probably it's probably had his daughters at origin level

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<v Speaker 4>over the years, and he's never really grasped it or owned.

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<v Speaker 3>He's pretty good, honestly, to be fair.

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<v Speaker 1>But this night he did, and he produced a performance

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<v Speaker 1>that Nathan Cleary hasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet on the original.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good call, Mick, And I'm not forecasting what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen next year, whatever the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you just declared that Moss be the TV to

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<v Speaker 2>the clearing next year?

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was interested.

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<v Speaker 5>That was raised post match on nine and Joey John's

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<v Speaker 5>discussed that how it's going to be a match race

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<v Speaker 5>for the seven jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if Michaelai has his way, there'll be six six seven.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but Joe, as Joey said, he's concerned about what

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<v Speaker 5>that If that actually worked.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get three Game three but sorry, so I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, we're looking at the dynasty.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was great, though, Mitch outstanding.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good. There's been difficult year with injury, difficult

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<v Speaker 4>year of club level, but he just he just don

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<v Speaker 4>own owned the biggest stage in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Para fans would be frustrated. Was that I'd love to

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<v Speaker 3>see that every week?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, He's been pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah a guy well paramatter fans would have been excited

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<v Speaker 1>about a guy you wrote about in today's papers Plomax, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>Should he just put his hand up and say I

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<v Speaker 1>am the world's best winger? Just leave me there?

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent? He should?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Zach just walk into Dragons training today and

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<v Speaker 5>just say, Shane, you were right, you were rightologized.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but you were right. Maybe you should apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's break it down. He asked for a release because

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't want to play on the Winner, took a

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<v Speaker 5>pay cut. He's taking a pay cut and leaving Saint

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<v Speaker 5>George Laulewarra to go play in the centers. Is it

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<v Speaker 5>a fader complete that either Jason or was doing young

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<v Speaker 5>Trent Barrett or Josh Hannay actually put this bike on

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<v Speaker 5>in the center's at Paramatta.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't cannot play him at center.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you can.

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<v Speaker 3>He walks in.

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<v Speaker 5>He is now, he's now the favorite to be the

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<v Speaker 5>test winger at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I picked I picked him last week. He's been outstanding.

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<v Speaker 4>He's I understanding, he's been outstanding. But they've signed him

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<v Speaker 4>as a center.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that was.

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<v Speaker 1>What he the old coach Ke or whatever the case

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<v Speaker 1>may be.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have will Or Bensony and Lace to Lungy.

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<v Speaker 2>The centers and his fullback.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Zach to not move him. He's making such a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when he's played at the center for the Dragons

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<v Speaker 1>this year through injury, he hasn't had that same interview.

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<v Speaker 1>He I can't remember a winger you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to like Wendo at his peak and LORDI at

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<v Speaker 1>his peak. This is the type of performance that is

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<v Speaker 1>producing at them. He's making. Bryan Told has been great,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh had Carver, the years have been great. Brett Morris

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<v Speaker 1>was the best wing I've ever seen, right, but not

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<v Speaker 1>even those guys had an impact.

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<v Speaker 3>On the game.

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<v Speaker 1>You love the Morris bo Brett Morris best wing. I'm saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>most complete wing on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Issue with maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>On it was Wendell.

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<v Speaker 1>Wend was great, he was come on, man.

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<v Speaker 3>The knock on Zach at center was it.

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<v Speaker 5>He overplays and he's trying too hard to come up

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<v Speaker 5>with a play that creates something for either his winger

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<v Speaker 5>or himself effectively.

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<v Speaker 3>But on the wing, he only has simple choices to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, leaping leap like.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the best leaper in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>This was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kick for the night. His yardage carries have power

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<v Speaker 5>and strength. He can finish a try low to the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>He has an enormous kick when he needs.

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<v Speaker 3>To use it as well. He could win a daily

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<v Speaker 3>end and some other realms of possibility.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if he's dominating for Saint Serious, Yeah, well, he'd

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<v Speaker 5>be pinching all the majority of the points for saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Hunt's probably on a few, I'd say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, but he's just I've never seen a winger than.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Hut would to pinch.

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<v Speaker 3>In rounds one and two, Zach took out both man

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<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Where was he on the.

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<v Speaker 1>He's okay, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen a winger have such influence on the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Wingers have been great finisher or great carriers or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been changing gamesaelgwy.

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<v Speaker 5>I said something interesting postmatch about how the mentality of

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<v Speaker 5>Zach now is that he's going after the big moments

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<v Speaker 5>and he pointed to his goal.

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<v Speaker 3>He's goal kicking from the sideline.

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<v Speaker 5>Nine mcg You've got to know all these goal kicks

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<v Speaker 5>from the sideline, and I think that shows he's capable

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<v Speaker 5>of handling handling the big moments too.

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<v Speaker 3>Real maturity is game now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh no, no, don't. I don't disagree with Green.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been outstanding this year, been fantastic. If they play

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<v Speaker 4>him on the wing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a coach at Paramatta, yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 2>When you look at their options of the centers, So

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<v Speaker 2>why is that going?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean if Paramat are going to play

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<v Speaker 1>him on the wing. He probably didn't think they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to playmone when he signed.

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<v Speaker 2>We got there's a better chance to win the comp

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<v Speaker 2>there as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe, so he's he going to get the ships and

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<v Speaker 5>leave Paramatta too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you would hope not.

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<v Speaker 4>He would hope not because he look a bit silly

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<v Speaker 4>if he then turned around and backed out of the

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<v Speaker 4>deal that he's committed.

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<v Speaker 3>There honestly, really, if you're the coach to paramatter.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I understand, I understand when you look at that team, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Any team, like, how can you not pick him on

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<v Speaker 3>the wiki? What was Zach Clomax on at the Dragon?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it gets about eight hundred. Actually doesn't know

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<v Speaker 3>he's now currently playing like an eight hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>nine hundred player. Yeah, and he's gone well for six

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<v Speaker 3>fift and he's gone for six fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's life, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you sometimes you make calls that, in hindsight probably

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<v Speaker 4>weren't the best calls.

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<v Speaker 1>You got any of those?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready, oh man, every.

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<v Speaker 1>Day every day.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I'm sure he doesn't regret he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>a team that, Okay, they're running last at the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a little bit of regret. Regret you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>throw away min dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you just need to put your ego in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Read man, he's got to live, he's got to learn

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<v Speaker 2>to live with it.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to take oh.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't complained though.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you know, he's created his owner decision and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But that changes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he hasn't complained, and good luck

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<v Speaker 1>to him for not making a move based on money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, but yeah, if i'm paramatter, i am keeping him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good looking back line. That paramounta back line with him.

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<v Speaker 4>You look at that back line they played till he

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<v Speaker 4>had fullback and you've got Gutho and Penosini and him

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<v Speaker 4>and Mitch and Dylan Brown. It's a it's a premiership

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<v Speaker 4>challenging back line.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm not sure about the Ford.

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<v Speaker 3>Issue.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll put Ready out of his misery. That's origin

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<v Speaker 1>chat done for a little bit tough morning.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't understand, you guys, what it's like being Queens

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not q.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs a bit more to us, it always has,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not Queenslanders.

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't feel two weeks time, don't get origin.

0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 1>We don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay, what is it? What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love him to explain what exactly, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>You should try.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are best. Are the NRL news broke yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Stefano Tookmano potentially out of the West Tigers. Ready, can

0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you talk us through that situation?

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, So basically he's got those clause in his

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.040
<v Speaker 4>contract that have been well documented. If he doesn't play

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<v Speaker 4>two Origin games this year and the Tigers missed the

0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.080
<v Speaker 4>top eight. He's a free agent at the end of

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 4>the season. There was obviously not gonna play two Origin

0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.280
<v Speaker 4>games this year and the Tigers looked like they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to miss the top eight. Sore at a meeting with

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<v Speaker 4>Shane Richardson and Benji Marshall a Tiger's headquarters with his

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<v Speaker 4>wife yesterday. Basically that meeting, Tina I said, I'm majority

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<v Speaker 4>of my footy at the moment. I like the way

0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:26.320
<v Speaker 4>the club's heading, but I want to see what's out

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<v Speaker 4>there for me and I want to see what my

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<v Speaker 4>options are in the open market. And the club rather

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<v Speaker 4>than waiting until they're mathematically out of top eight contention,

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<v Speaker 4>which is technically when he's a free agent at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the year, they go and see what's out

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<v Speaker 4>there for you. Now they've obviously put an offer in

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<v Speaker 4>front of him five years, four million dollars extension and

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<v Speaker 4>come back to us in a few weeks and we'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell us how you feel. So that's what's kicked off now.

0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.399
<v Speaker 4>Tino Stefano's now or his agent is exploring the open

0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 4>market and seeing what's out for him and He'll have

0:20:58.160 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 4>plenty of interests, is no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a mature decision from the Tigers, smart decision

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<v Speaker 1>the Tigers to not give up hope.

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<v Speaker 3>But he knew this was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they actually left the meeting Mick more hopeful

0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.400
<v Speaker 4>than they were before the matting. I think they heard

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 4>some pretty positive things from Stefano and his wife about

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<v Speaker 4>the club. No, but the issue for Stefanna was he's

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<v Speaker 4>heard this same message now from Tim Sheen's justin Pascoe,

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<v Speaker 4>Michael Lea.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everyone's tell him.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Vision, we're heading in the right direction. This club's going

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<v Speaker 2>to turn, We're going to win. And it gets to a.

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<v Speaker 5>Point where the history's against all that exactly, and the

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 5>kids sitting there going well, I've heard this all.

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<v Speaker 2>Before and it's not about money.

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<v Speaker 4>For him, it was you know, he's he's got a

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<v Speaker 4>significant offer on the table right now from the Tigers.

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<v Speaker 2>He just wants to win. He wants to go somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>and win.

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<v Speaker 5>Joel Caine, a former West Tiger, was quite outspoken earlier

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<v Speaker 5>this week, declaring that the West Tigers should never have

0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 5>had the meeting and should just pull the extension.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, if you.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't see where this or if you want to be

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<v Speaker 5>if you don't want to be part of what we're

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<v Speaker 5>building here, so bad off you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's fine, that's fine, you just walk out the door.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's definitively, definitively said I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you did that to him, you said a deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>or you put these things on him and just go okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet a huge market. With all due respect to the Tigers, Well,

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Joe Ka, I don't think that would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>right player. The Tigers have done the right thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>mature thing, where they said, okay, we know we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to make the eight. You haven't got those origin clauses.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of wait until September or August, laid August

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<v Speaker 1>to make this decision, let's get some clarity in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not going to stop the Tigers from going

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<v Speaker 1>around and trying to sign someone because if they do,

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<v Speaker 1>that money won't be there. So they're doing the right

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 1>thing as well. And there's no guarantee that if this

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>drags on a little bit, that that money will still

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 1>be there because the Tigers aren't sitting on their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tigers are doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's been made clear as well, that they've

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 4>said him and his management go away, see what's out

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 4>there for you. There's no guarantee that offer is going

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 4>to be there. Will we might spend that money while

0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 4>you're while you're out.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are some of the clubs that are circling.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah, we've clearly heard. Look, I expect the Roosters, the Raiders,

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 5>the Panthers, Storm Storm, Dragons, Dragons, Dragons, Doggies.

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Doggies, Yeah, yep, yep, Dogies.

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<v Speaker 3>Potentially a long list. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue is he wants to go to a team

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<v Speaker 2>it's a contender.

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<v Speaker 1>Which does that rule out?

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<v Speaker 4>Rules out a fair few. I don't think Camber helped

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 4>their cause at the weekend. I think if Camber had

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<v Speaker 4>come out of the weekend and given the Tigers a

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<v Speaker 4>touch up, that would help them. But losing the way

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<v Speaker 4>they did, I think that's probably hindered them a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, I think the Dogs maybe two

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<v Speaker 4>months ago, I don't think he looked at them. I

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<v Speaker 4>think the Dragons maybe two months ago wouldn't have looked

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<v Speaker 4>at things that change.

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<v Speaker 2>Both those clubs look as though there they're.

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>On the app Dogs dogs are firing. Yeah, they're a

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<v Speaker 1>prop and a half away from really competing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that that's helped their cause. Pend with

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<v Speaker 4>and Melbourne obvious ones, right, they're always in the mix.

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 4>The Roosters as well, so.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll are plenty of options a few other players that

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 1>are on the open market at the moment. Angus Croydon

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:30.159
<v Speaker 1>sensational last night. Does his vay just keep going up

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<v Speaker 1>or what like? It's such a strange situation where you know,

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the Roosters sort of stood by him last year and

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:37.600
<v Speaker 1>this year I was sort of not sure Dave Feeder

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>was signed over the top of him, which would have

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 1>squeeze him out that Dave Theeder's backley. Is there any

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:45.280
<v Speaker 1>sort of doubt in Angus's mind about staying at the

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<v Speaker 1>Roosters or.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was, Yeah, I think they're close to

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.119
<v Speaker 4>a deal now, but I think there has been no doubt,

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 4>And I think at one point he was resigned to going,

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, he was on.

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 2>The radio of other clubs.

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 4>But I think he wants to stay and I think

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 4>there are reasonably close to getting something done there.

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 5>I know this deal is close to getting done, but

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 5>Angus stops rising every week.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>The point in rushing and to re sign, well just

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>because you're off contract to get it sort of certainly,

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and an injury happens.

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>But you're right, Pa, last night he was so good.

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Just his physicality, well he just it hasn't been synonymous

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with angers, that physicality, like he's always been a good

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.639
<v Speaker 1>whole run over, but he man handled Blakes last night.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>And then finally, Entrepreneur, do you have an update on

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>him as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's just waiting for Angus to make a decision

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 4>on his future and then he'll he's obviously gone to

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 4>he's been given permission to go to market.

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>They've had a look around again. Loads of clubs keen

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:43.880
<v Speaker 2>on still.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 1>A few clubs and Sport Confidential that you're interested in him.

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, man's the man.

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 4>He's an obvious one that's quite keen on him because

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 4>obviously he got the Josh Shuster money.

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>But he fit in there.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.959
<v Speaker 1>He plays plays an edge, whether the edges look what.

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Look can also move still he could play in the

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 2>middle and they can.

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 3>The Galeen Morning edge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so but he's got he's waiting for Angus Crichton's

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.719
<v Speaker 4>future to be resolved and then they'll go hard on

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 4>the open market expansion.

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<v Speaker 1>Boys just quickly another development yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's been ratified by the Commission yesterday that we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to twenty teams in the future.

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't think they specifically, but yeah, decided it

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>will be. Yeah, it will be.

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<v Speaker 4>They basically said, hey, come to us, show us what

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 4>you got pitched to us.

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<v Speaker 1>To consortiums will be eighteen per nineteen p twenty two determined.

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<v Speaker 2>I suggest South Island, New Zealand.

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>A second team in New Zealand is most like the Bears.

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<v Speaker 4>What's happening with the Bears? Mick, Wow, you've been all

0:26:58.560 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 4>over this. What's going with the Bears?

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>There's obviously give them some hope. The hope is that

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>people are still talking about them. But the Bears could

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>lose the unlosable here potentially where the Western Australian government

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 1>have essentially been told that the NRL's preference is that

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>they partner with an East Coast team, and originally most

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>everyone thought that was going to be the Bears, and

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>then the Jets have come in the background a little

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>bit and really gained momentum over the last couple of

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>weeks a race horse shit John Singleton as he said,

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it's come on board and said he prepared to do

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>what it takes. There's other investors now that are worth

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars of multi millionaires and have come on

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>and said they're going to tip in if it's just

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the Jets. And if you speak to the people in

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Western Australia, their preferences to go it alone if they're

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>forced to go with the East Coast side, definitely their

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>preferences the Jets. But there's no doubt the Bears have

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>some heavyweight support led by the commissioned a ped of

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 1>land Is and I think that's where the Bears have

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the advantage because the decision makers are those that want

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>them to bring the Bears back. But the Bears just

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>need to temper their expectations, i'd suggest, and Newtown aren't

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>asking for anything, you know, maybe one game or definitely

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>a preseason game. Henson or Henson's not up to scratch.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll play it at Leichhard or somewhere in Sydney. But

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>they're bringing with them lots of cash. The Jets.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 5>The obvious topic that everyone discusses when we talk about

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 5>expansion is is there enough depth in the competition to

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 5>have more teams? And I think the Dolphins have proven

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 5>just and I think it's proven to the Commission as well.

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>It's open their eyes to the fact that this can work.

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 3>There is enough talent.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 5>What the Dolphins have achieved is extraordinary, I believe in

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 5>the first two seasons. And I actually go back to

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 5>the last week's Under nine ENS game. I thought the

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 5>standard of that Under nine NS game was that the path,

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:07.479
<v Speaker 5>pathways and quality of talent below NRL is ready to go.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 4>The only shure I have David this talk they'll go

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 4>per twenty seven P and G twenty eight and to

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 4>find sixty players in two seasons, I think you've.

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Got to space out a little bit.

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't I think maybe twenty seven to twenty nine.

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you can get twenty seven to twenty eight.

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I think that's too much strain on the player.

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>And complicating that is that PNG's a hard sell. So

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're bringing the team in before PNG, which looks

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like the case, there's thirty players that they don't have

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>access to and they're going to need all the help

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>they can get to a track.

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 4>Players, Well, they need to get their pathway set up

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 4>and start churning out some footballers.

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>They will just ten years away that best best case scenario.

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>They are doing that in their defense. They are setting

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>up those pathways and the like. Get us some questions,

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>boys from Jym zap How do we change the seven

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>tackle set rule so it only self flies to people

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>deliberately kicking the board dead.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Sure, mate, and this is my real change your burner account.

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:05.239
<v Speaker 2>That's burner account for him.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 3>If you've been listening, I think bigger things to tackle.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 5>See what happens is the questions come in and Mick

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 5>Carry is our executive producer of the show, and so

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 5>he vets them, but also categorizes them and ranking order.

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 3>And he's gone with his rule.

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the most important question we've ever had.

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Support, Jim zapf. I've said before, and anyone else is listening,

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 3>don't ring in, don't email.

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 5>Don't text questions about rule changes unless it's about disruptor.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>What about how mixes is going? Support, he's your mate.

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>You've got him. Said that.

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get Barbie your house, said.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy, send it an email.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 3>And putting on question a person because is gone. If

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 3>you don't see has with with house.

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Current resurgence, can we lay blame for their form slap

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>slowly on JD's feet he left, they improved.

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 3>No, that's no, they've got players back.

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>They got players. That does help be doing a great job.

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 4>But all on.

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Seriage wants to know, Hey, guys, would you rather your

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>state winning, State of Origin?

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Your club winning the premiership? Would you rather club winning?

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, I know, premiership everything out of the work, that's

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>what this guy is going to say.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what you don't get Origin.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Origin every day of the week, every day.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 3>They don't want the Broncos to win the comp. I'd

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 3>rather it's been a while, you've forgotten what it's like

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 3>to win a comp. So hang on. So Queensland when this,

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 3>when this is Origin series, you're going to go off.

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather Origin, you know what, because we are Queensland.

0:31:58.400 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Billy.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Every discussion post Queensland winning this series, when the Broncos

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 5>come up right about winning content, queens don't care.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't care. It was the question was what's your

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>preference for a Queenslander. It's always been in Origin.

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's for your retort after winning the

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 5>C series and we're.

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Gonna win the series.

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 3>This is what's happening.

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 5>If you win the on board, if you win this series,

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 5>your retort should But it doesn't matter if the Broncos

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 5>don't win this year won.

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>The series performing mate, I'm definitely team Premiership.

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>You don't get origin easily.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Easily? Why can't I have both?

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>John d wants to know why would a Perth JV

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>partnership work when the Dragons and Saint George Laurior is

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>shown they don't work. Both clubs have controversy to their

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>history together. Dolphriends have shown stand alone is the way to.

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Go, Dragons run a camp.

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 5>When in twenty teniers ever since, both joint ventures have

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 5>been a mess. Johnsy is absolutely spot on they do

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 5>not work. You cannot force marriages. Really knows this, No

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 5>he doesn't, but that couldn't be happier. That's to your point.

0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 5>Around North Sydney and Perth. I think the Jets work

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 5>because the Jets aren't asking for anything. They're bringing stuff

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 5>to the table. Yeah, and that I think it's going

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 5>to be a tough sell.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I reckon the issue with the other yeah, you're right.

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 4>I think the issue is the Dragons and Tigers. They're

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 4>both sort of fifty. The Tigers are more Western suburbs

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 4>and Balmain.

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Dragons try to be fifty to fifty by

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the fact Steelers not having any money.

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's started all Dragons and it's.

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Slowly infiltrated to slight the fact the Dragon Sat George

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>had all the money. Yep, Steelers. You know, they're covering

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers debts and the like. Now with win there,

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>really Saint George Lee's club should have just bought the

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Steeler share out.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 4>Anyway, that's the Perth Bears. I mean, this is part

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 4>of the issue with the Perth Bears. The Bears want

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 4>too much and they're actually not bringing a whole lot

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 4>to the table other than her name.

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>And a.

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Fan base and the like right where it.

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Don't need them, don't need them. The Bears need Perth.

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Perth don't need the best.

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>And this is why P and G hopped off the

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Bears bus straight away because I like, this is all

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>too much. We don't need you guys. So that's where

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the Jets are bring in but not taking. Yes, So

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>that's so John T. One hundred percent ride. It's going

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to be very interesting, Johnty.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 2>When I actually keep going, I tell the story. Okay,

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 2>good johnsy rides to creep. Just think I look like him?

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 3>Could you feel like him?

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Is magnificent?

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 3>You see the email.

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Less power or glasses?

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Hello, there are some emails. I got lots of emails

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>this week, so thank you for all that. I haven't

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>wants to know. Just wondering why there's been no talk

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>about Malmininger for the Paramattic coaching job. Is he not

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 1>interested in coaching in the NRL. I think I think

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that all.

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Went pear shape when Male was connected to the Sawski, which.

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Was only a short term Stinter. I don't think Mal's

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be. Male's not an NROL head coach anymore.

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>That's south Stin appealed because he was only going to

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 1>be for the rest of the year, and obviously he'd

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>come at something like that, but not an NROL head coach.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's why he's not linked there, and he's very

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>happy coaching the kangaroos. All right, this was a long email,

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>so I've just paraphrased this for Matt. He's been an

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Eels fan for forty two years. Remember for twenty five years.

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>If they're being counters at the Eels club, he's been

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>listening to hoops old. Mat think sacking Brad Arthur is

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a solution to the dramas. They aren't too smart. How

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>did the current board keep their jobs? The fans and

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>members had enough, They laughing stuff the NROL. I'm thinking

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>of getting rid of my memberships for me and my

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>three kids. Well, Matt, don't do that, Matt, I think

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>says stays strong, make good time becoming. I think getting

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>rid of Brad been sacked was the right decision. And

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>now they're on a path to finding someone else, and

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll judge. I'll judge these guys on who they appoint next,

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>because Brad was already there when most of the current

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>management structure came in. So Matt, be patient and have

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>some faith. I've got some faith in the guys making

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the decisions out.

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Maddie, I just take this into account. I think your

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 5>question is speaking to you delaying the inevitable. Brad Arthur

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 5>wasn't going to be the coach at the Paramatteriels in

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty six, and so therefore the Paramatter board thought

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 5>if that's not the case. And given the amount of

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 5>players off contract on contract and when you need to

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 5>make decisions on players' careers, they believed it was better

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 5>to go now, knowing that he wasn't going to be

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 5>there much longer, So rip the band aid off, get

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 5>it done, and start this process for the future right now.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 5>And yes, it's painful, and yes, I could understand why

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 5>Brad feels like that they went too early, given the

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 5>amount of injured players that were on the sideline at

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 5>the time of his sacking. But it honestly, I think

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.959
<v Speaker 5>deep down in Brad's mind he knew that he wasn't

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 5>going to be there potentially potentially even next year. So

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 5>I think I think it's a case of getting the

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 5>train rolling now instead of delaying it another twelve toweight

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 5>ten months.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, interesting question here from Chris. The dominance of

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the Storm and the Roosters for the past decade, in

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, comes down to stability at the head coaching role.

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So both Robinson and Bellamy have been far less ambitious

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>for new challenges than the previous generation was. In your opinion,

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>what type of coach is more successful those like Robinson

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>or Bennett who have stayed Robinson and Bellamy, or those

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>who have sustained success in a long time, or those

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>have gone for different clubs and brought success like Bennett.

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, right where do we rank? Because I think

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Wayne ticks both boxes, Okay, because he's had success

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>at Broncos for twenty of us want to comp at

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the Dragons.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeps coach in the game's history.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Arsel got into a prelium and then it fell apart,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>and now the Dolphins the eight this year has been

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>an ausus.

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 2>He's the best.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't necessarily think he's the best right now,

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 4>but I think he's been. If you if you look

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 4>at someone's career, he's been the best coach and teams

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 4>of his career.

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think right now, Craig and.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Robber, you can argue a potentially potentially better coaches than

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 4>him right now.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Look, I believe Wayne's the best coach we've seen.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 5>And I say that because of everything that Chris is

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.280
<v Speaker 5>talking about, how he has moved around to different clubs,

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 5>found success at those clubs.

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 3>Not every club.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 5>The Knights was a bit of a battle, but he

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 5>did take him to the finals, and I think that's

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 5>the greatest test of a coach to adjust.

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 3>At a new environment. I'm a massive fan of Craig Bellamy.

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 5>I think he's a champion fella and clearly an outstanding coach. However,

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 5>I can't get away from the fact that down in

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 5>Melbourne they are isolated, they are out of the spotlight.

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 5>Craig can run his own race as far as training

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 5>without any issue, no speculation of this player, that player's injury.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 3>And it's one of the major reasons.

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 5>He didn't get to the Brisbane Broncos because he would

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 5>have been coaching under a spotlight. And I think that's

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 5>a major factor when you actually, you know, you think

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 5>about every little.

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Miniature factor that makes up coaching.

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 5>To do it in an environment where you can just

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 5>do it on your own time, I think that helps

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 5>your cause.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 3>And that's where Craig has at Melbourne.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 5>Robbo has had a hugely supportive board and financially savvy

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 5>leader in Nick Politis to have a strong roster every

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 5>single year.

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I think with the reason Wayne is the greatest, who

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 1>is because of the reasons that Chris mentions, the fact that,

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, how do we judge it? I think there's

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>something that can be said for Craig and Lay doing

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it for twenty years. If that's hard to try to

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 1>stay relevant at the one but because can cherry pick,

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you can go to another club and just implement the

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 1>same try and implement the same things. And there's a

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>freshness to that anyway. But to stay fresh at the

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>one place. But Wayne's been able to.

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Do that plus have success.

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And also when and if he comes out and wins

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a comp at South Sydney, like, no one's wont to

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>camp as a coach at three clubs, right, that would

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>be the ultimate my greatest clinice. Right, last question, boys,

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 1>at what point from Josh, at what point does the

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 1>NROL need to make sure that coaches aren't taking the

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.919
<v Speaker 1>mickey we're naming the team sell Anthony Seaboard named Tommy

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Tall on the wing, but played him in the halves.

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Cane Lord and Lord and a halfback played him in

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the back row. Jackson Barlow at center played him on

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the wing. Ohla blah blah blah. What's the difference in

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>naming your front rowers on the wing At this point,

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an issue with it. It's a bit

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of like if it became a thing where every week

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they'll just name different players in these positions. But I

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.919
<v Speaker 1>actually don't mind those games a little bit where it's

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>not clear.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 4>Like, you know, no one picked up the Tommy's I

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 4>was playing in the halfs except you, buddy on the sideline,

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 4>you picked it up.

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>It was uit pretty obvious.

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was quite obvious.

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 4>But mainly yesterday and he said, yeah Tommy, Tommy actually

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 4>played school boys.

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>And YE.

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Played Yeah that he started.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it was a little bit like I had

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the head start because you'd mentioned the fact that it

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>might happen, and then when I.

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Was doing sideline, I saw it.

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I watched for it, right, But yeah, I don't I

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.479
<v Speaker 1>don't have an issue with any issue boys.

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's right. That's not that's the thing,

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 3>because that was.

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Taking the mickey to be an issue, But I mean.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Voyage on the wing, you'd be like, what's going on,

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that there was such an unknown about

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that side. I think it works in that instance, but

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>if it becomes a weekly thing, i'd be If it

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>happens once or twice, you actually don't mind.

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 5>It, to be fair, mate, You're using an example during

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 5>the State of Origin period where mainly had a huge

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 5>influence on both teams, and you know their changes were

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 5>never going to be clear anyway, and given their current

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 5>in jury crisis.

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 3>As I said, it's not right throughout the game.

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 5>Certainly coaches do it, and obviously the impact on gambling

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.280
<v Speaker 5>and when you're having a bed on a on a game,

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 5>you want to get its close to the team that

0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 5>runs out. So if it was, if it was right

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 5>throughout the game, but have an issue with it, but.

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Joshua with you just not yet.

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>If it becomes a trend, then you know we'd definitely

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>jump across it. All right, Boys Dinner, Women's Origin. Tonight's

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>get to be a beauty so down watch that'll be awesome.

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>So we get a chance to have Thursday Night forty

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to It's weird if there's no Thursday Night for you

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.240
<v Speaker 1>but been a Thursday Night forty tonight? What are we watching?

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>What are we eating with it?

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 5>Well, Thursdays are tough for me because it's it's the.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Last caring, but I get around them.

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 5>It'll be something easy. I think we're going to go

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 5>just down the chicken wrap path. Now you know when

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 5>you go the chicken wrap, do you go the full

0:42:58.360 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 5>lebonones bread.

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 3>Or the Woolworth style rap depends.

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 2>On what.

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<v Speaker 4>Pe Lemonese bread. It's too thick, it's too yeah, have

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of thing bread. Yeah, because I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I love so lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not just going to box chicken rat which.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you on?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, it's you get a little bit of homits

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<v Speaker 3>on there. Oh yeah, and then some roasted yeah. Touch

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<v Speaker 3>and chili. I love chili fresh chili there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, it's almost like a barn me.

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<v Speaker 3>You're getting closer to know anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>About you, Rednner.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, oh, I'm sorry so last night no no, no, sorry?

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<v Speaker 3>And what did you do for original I dinner? We

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<v Speaker 3>had a good feed.

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<v Speaker 1>Why say? This is a Greek dish Clara made like

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<v Speaker 1>I used to making ashes taken over. It's called cleptical,

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<v Speaker 1>which is stolen lamb. It is amazing stolen lamb.

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<v Speaker 4>We just steal it from the theft.

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<v Speaker 1>So good, I'll send you there. It's actually easy to cook.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why it's called stolen lamb.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just marinated and something or yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like in a castle rolled dish. It's slow cooked

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<v Speaker 1>and it is with cheese. This like this feta cheese

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<v Speaker 1>and this other Greek cheese. We're on air, which is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so good.

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<v Speaker 4>We had I had chicken wings in their forg and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff because my yeah not Christian enough but chrisp what sauce,

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<v Speaker 4>buffalo and a little bit, a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Smoky barbec. So my sister in law was down with

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<v Speaker 2>my nieces.

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<v Speaker 4>My brother in law stayed in Brisbane, his blood Adam,

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<v Speaker 4>but the sister was down with the kids. And the

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<v Speaker 4>youngest daughter plays rugby league. Okay, so she's going to

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<v Speaker 4>want to watch the women's game. So I think what

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<v Speaker 4>we'll do.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you want to watch the women I want to

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<v Speaker 3>watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll probably go out for dinner. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>might go to.

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<v Speaker 4>Alice is dumpling and manly, which does Chinese. I love dumplings, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't. Doesn't just do dumpling.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Charlie dumplings. Yeah, dumplings are very good. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what we'll do. We'll have to go out

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<v Speaker 2>for dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Alice, she's a good chef.

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<v Speaker 2>Alice is outstanding.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you have last night? It was rare.

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<v Speaker 1>We were home for origin, which is very rare.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well I had a MUSLM and curry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh lovely chicken. Yeah, that's the buzz area. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>like a takeaway? Man made? That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you for joining us for another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily Telegraph Errol Podcast and ready to go to

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