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Speaker 1: Today's biggest news from The Australian. I'm Claire Harvey with

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Speaker 1: the Front's afternoon headlines. The true magnitude of the Bondai

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Speaker 1: Beach anti Semitic massacre is becoming clear, with fifteen people

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Speaker 1: now confirmed murdered, including a ten year old girl, an

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Speaker 1: eighty seven year old Holocaust survivor and two rabbis. Anthony

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Speaker 1: Alberinezi says Tougher gun laws are coming, with National Cabinet

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Speaker 1: meeting on Monday afternoon to forge a national response to

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Speaker 1: the worst mass murder since the nineteen ninety six port

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Speaker 1: Arpa massacre.

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Speaker 2: Tougher gun laws, including limits are on the number of

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Speaker 2: guns that can be used or licensed by individuals, a

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Speaker 2: review of licenses over a period of time. People's circumstances change,

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Speaker 2: people can be radicalized over a period of time. Licenses

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Speaker 2: should not be in perpetuity and checks of course, making

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Speaker 2: sure that those checks and balances are in place as well.

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Speaker 2: We will task I'll take to National Cabinet this afternoon

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Speaker 2: a proposal to empower agencies to examine what can be

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Speaker 2: done in this area. One of the things that is

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Speaker 2: coming through though, is that the community want to be

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Speaker 2: able to express their support and solidarity, and I would

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Speaker 2: urge and join with others who have urged the strains

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Speaker 2: across the country to light a candle put it in

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Speaker 2: their front window tonight at six forty seven pm to

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Speaker 2: show that light will indeed defeat darkness, part of what

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Speaker 2: Harnaka celebrates, of course.

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Speaker 1: The alleged gunmen have been revealed as father and son,

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Speaker 1: Sajed Akrim fifty and his son Navide Akram twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Sajed a crime was shot dead by police at the

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Speaker 1: scene after being dismed by a member of the public.

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Speaker 3: Forty three year old.

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Speaker 1: Shopkeeper Ahmed al Ahmed, who also suffered injuries during the massacre.

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Speaker 1: A cousin of mister Alahmed, jose al khanj said he

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Speaker 1: owned a tobacco shop and came to Australia from Idlib

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Speaker 1: in Syria. Mister Alahmed is still in hospital recovering from

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Speaker 1: injuries to his arm. Police say the dead man's son,

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Speaker 1: alleged shooter Navid Akram, is in a serious but stable

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Speaker 1: condition under police guard in hospital. Intelligence agencies are pursuing

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Speaker 1: possible links between the men and terror group Islamic State

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Speaker 1: and say that Navid Akram was on Azio's radar in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Here's Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke.

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Speaker 4: I've got full support, full support for our security agencies

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Speaker 4: and part of making sure that they can do their

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Speaker 4: job is making sure that information is brought out in

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Speaker 4: the way in which we are doing it right now.

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Speaker 1: Are there other family members being investigated? Do you have

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Speaker 1: any concerns about the other family members?

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Speaker 4: Links to the support social security agencies and unauthorizing you

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Speaker 4: for the information which I have given you.

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Speaker 1: Australia's anti Semitism on void. Gillian Siegel has told the

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Speaker 1: Australian chance of globalized the INTERFATA heard everywhere from the

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Speaker 1: Mardi Gras parade to university campuses and street protests, has

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Speaker 1: come true in the mass murder of innocent Jewish people

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Speaker 1: celebrating Harneker. Police say they believe the weapons used in

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Speaker 1: the attack were legally obtained hunting rifles. Sajid Akram had

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Speaker 1: licenses for six firearms, and police say they believe they

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Speaker 1: have recovered all those weapons. This story's moving fast and

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Speaker 1: we are updating live at the Australian dot com dot au.

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Speaker 1: Israel is accusing Australia of having failed to properly fight antisemitism,

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Speaker 1: and as new scrutiny today on how the federal government

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Speaker 1: handled the aftermath of Hermas's October seven, twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: terror attack on Israel and the way pro Palestinian marches,

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Speaker 1: encampments and protests have amplified anti Israel sentiment. The Australian's

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Speaker 1: Political editor, Jeff Chambers asked Anthony Albanesi a question at

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Speaker 1: his press conference on Sunday night that has since gone viral.

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Speaker 1: So I asked Jeff to talk us through where the

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister goes from here. First, let's hear Jeff Chambers

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Albanesi at that press conference.

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Speaker 5: Our left up checked anti Semitism leads to terrorism and

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Speaker 5: violence targeting the innocent. Your government has come under criticism

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Speaker 5: in claiming that it has effectively responded to the rise

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Speaker 5: of antisemitism in Australia since Oktober seven, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: In September, your government recognized a Palestinian state. Your ministers

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Speaker 5: have attacked the Israeli government, SEGA ministers refused to visit

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Speaker 5: the sites of the October seven massacres, and you created

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Speaker 5: a special Islamophobia Envoy alongside an anti semitism some envoid

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Speaker 5: Have you taken the threat of anti semitism seriously and

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Speaker 5: can you guarantee the safety of Jewish Australians.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we have taken it seriously and we've continued to act.

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Speaker 6: We've continued to work with Jewish community leaders, We've continued

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Speaker 6: to take all the advice from the security agencies to

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Speaker 3: What did you make of his response?

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Speaker 7: The reason I felt compelled to ask that question is

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Speaker 7: he has described this massacre event in Bondi as an

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Speaker 7: anti Semitic terror attack and to invoke that word is

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Speaker 7: very triggering for the Jewish Australian community who have been

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Speaker 7: distraught and felt that Anthony Obneasy in his government since

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Speaker 7: October seven, twenty twenty three, have not done nearly enough

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Speaker 7: they are living their lives in fear. It would be

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Speaker 7: remiss of any journalist to not ask the Prime Minister

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Speaker 7: the question, why haven't you done more? And what are

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Speaker 7: guarantee their safety? And I've got a very very brief response.

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Speaker 7: It's obviously a very big event. He has gone to

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Speaker 7: Sydney immediately. He went to Sydney straight after the press conference.

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Speaker 7: He was out with the police and Chris Min's first

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Speaker 7: thing on Monday. And now we're going to see a

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Speaker 7: flurry of meetings. Federal Cabinet meeting, an NSC meeting that

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Speaker 7: he'll chair, and then a National Cabinet meeting, and hopefully

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Speaker 7: by the end of today we will see some of

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Speaker 7: these recommendations that Gillian Siegel, the government's own anti Semitism

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Speaker 7: that they will finally action some of those today.

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Speaker 3: One of the community concerns about the response.

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Speaker 1: To Jillian Siegel's report is the fact that the government

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Speaker 1: hadn't acted on many of those recommendations, suggested that the

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Speaker 1: the fact that at the same time as appointing her,

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Speaker 1: now and is going to change the way he handles

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Speaker 7: This is our biggest fatality since the Port Arthur massacre

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Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety six. It's happened in the heart of

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Speaker 7: Sydney Bondai Beach. This is a big global story. We're

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Speaker 7: hearing now from world leaders, a lot of our allies

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Speaker 7: that we need to do more in anti Semitism. The

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Speaker 7: message will be received loud and clearly. The question remains,

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Speaker 7: why has it taken so long? Since October seven, we've

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's a very big argument that Australia has

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Speaker 7: just not a sphere of influence that we have any

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Speaker 7: impact on, which always brought everyone back to the political

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Speaker 7: and Labor hold a lot of very large Muslim Australian

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Speaker 7: So we had a lot of money being allocated for

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Speaker 7: that election. I guess there was this feeling, which is

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Speaker 7: But this issue never went away. And when you contrast

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Speaker 1: There were two ways that the government could have interpreted

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Speaker 1: that May election result, particularly in those western Sydney seats.

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Speaker 3: One was well, we've done all the right things.

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Speaker 1: Those voters have not punished us for being too close

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Speaker 1: The other way to interpret it was that Australian voters

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Speaker 1: did not believe that Islamophobia and antisemitism were equal. Australian

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Speaker 1: voters actually supported Israel more than perhaps the labor government

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Speaker 1: might have thought that they did. What was the interpretation

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Speaker 7: The election, at the end of the day wasn't one

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Speaker 7: but at the end of the day it didn't, And

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Speaker 7: it was a misread to think that they could then

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Speaker 7: Toreers of the World to continue to not go after

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Speaker 7: these people, to put Neo Nazis up there with Sunni

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Speaker 7: types of mass casualty events. So I think it was

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Speaker 7: a complete misread. But then even at a more granular

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Speaker 7: these mass protests that still occurred even after we recognized

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Speaker 7: The security chiefs were consistently warning that the issue had

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Speaker 7: now for Anthony Aberanzi is that this is a public

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Speaker 7: safety issue, a very frightening one, and it doesn't just

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Speaker 7: having to have security guards at their schools, which they've

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Speaker 7: national crisis and it's going to require some really sharp

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Speaker 1: The darkest possible interpretation of the conduct of Anthony Albanesi

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Speaker 1: and Penny Wong, who angered many people in the Jewish

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Speaker 1: to Israel, is that you know, they actually believe that

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Speaker 1: Israel is bad. Certainly, this is something that their faction,

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Speaker 1: the Labor Left, has talked about in conferences and back

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Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi actually believes. Do you believe in his soul

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Speaker 1: that he supports Israel and supports Israel's right to exist

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Speaker 7: I think he certainly does. Obviously there is an evolution

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Speaker 7: heading into his mid sixties, so the more sort of

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Speaker 7: probably radical left side of the Prime Minister has morphed

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Speaker 7: He wants to lead for the middle Australia and bring

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Speaker 7: really shocked him is that he now is under immense

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Speaker 7: pressure to unite the country. And one of the great

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Speaker 7: criticisms of him in his first term was that on

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Speaker 7: he now has that big mandate and that big responsibility.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Chambers is The Australian's Political editor.

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Speaker 1: Check out those stories live right now at the Australian

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