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Speaker 1: I'll good. Are your bloody champions. Welcome to another installment

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Speaker 1: of the project. Craig Anthony Harper. I've got a new friend.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say she's smarter than me, better to

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Speaker 1: look at than me. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: say that in twenty twenty five, but fuck it, I

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Speaker 1: said it. And we were just chatting, and now we're

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Speaker 1: going to chat with you as part of our group. Hi, Andrea,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you're a pretty good looking Craig.

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Speaker 2: I think we are.

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Speaker 3: I think we're competing for that title at the moment.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm thrilled to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen good looking. It doesn't look like this,

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Speaker 1: But thank you. That's very nice of you. And it's

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Speaker 1: good when you treat old people nicely. It's like good karma,

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Speaker 2: Oh is that what that is? I like it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, So we were just chatting. One of your many,

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Speaker 1: many things that you've done is extend bar. We'll jump,

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Speaker 1: we'll go back and forth. But I was just saying

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Speaker 1: Full disclosure I'm being honest, I've looked it up. Gone

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Speaker 1: is that like? What is that? Is that like pilates?

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Speaker 1: Is that yoga? Or is that is that sala? That

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Speaker 1: ten things before we Firstly, I don't know how many.

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Speaker 1: I think a fair few people in Australia know of

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Speaker 1: what is extend bar?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so extend bar is a combination of dance and pilates,

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Speaker 3: and I essentially I took my foundation of the two

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Speaker 3: dancer for many years. I segued my love for movement

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Speaker 3: And after dancing professionally, going to call EDE get my degree,

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Speaker 3: And so I was like, okay, let's go into uh,

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Speaker 3: let's go into advertising, because that's creative and I'm a

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Speaker 3: I lasted six weeks at that job, and I decided, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I like to get in there and I like to

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Speaker 3: And so I combined the two and I launched something

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Speaker 1: Wow. But you know what I love is you and I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's a mindset. No, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: It's very true action what people do over time. I'm

436
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Speaker 1: not talking about in a moment because we all fuck up,

437
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Speaker 1: but how.

438
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Speaker 3: Zoom olt Yeah, yeah, exactly zoom and see what they do.

439
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Speaker 2: I love that. That's it, That's that's it, that is

440
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 2: exactly it.

441
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Speaker 1: I think also, people don't understand their own potential. I

442
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Speaker 1: think that you know, you were talking about what we

443
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: were kind of talking about, overthinking, underdoing and like not.

444
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 1: I think fear and all its expressions, you know, anxiety,

445
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: self doubt, self loathing, and avoidance, and I think fear

446
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: jack's our potential. Like as I said to you before

447
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: we rolled, I'm not very talented, but I'm very good

448
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 1: at getting the most out of what I've got. And

449
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: I meet people who are more talented than me every day,

450
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: and they think I'm some high watermark of whatever I go.

451
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: If only you knew all the bullshit, the overthinking, the

452
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: self doubt, the self loathing, the insecurity, the ego, all

453
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 1: the Craig bullshit that exists that I have to fucking

454
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Speaker 1: deal with and navigate, You wouldn't think I'm nearly as

455
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: special as you currently think I am. And I think

456
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: just knowing that, you know, oh this is scary, and

457
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: that's okay, Oh this is hard, that's okay, this is uncomfortable. Great.

458
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: What if I lean into all that stuff that I

459
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Speaker 1: don't really like? Because in that stuff that I don't

460
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: like is where I become fucking amazing.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that the game of comparison that

462
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Speaker 3: is now every day right world that has just completely

463
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 3: you know, put the brakes on so much growth for

464
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: so many individuals because there is this idea just as

465
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Speaker 3: you said, Oh, Craig has all of his shit together,

466
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: he's like the most, he's a genius. He's got everything

467
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Speaker 3: going for him. It's easier for him, it's not easy

468
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 3: for me. He's got a leg up on me. And

469
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: the truth is nobody really does. It's just a matter

470
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: of effort and taking action and doing the thing. And

471
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Speaker 3: if you remove the outside fear. You know, I just

472
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 3: saw something recently a podcaster who is like, just get

473
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Speaker 3: ready to embarrass yourself, like you have to put yourself

474
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Speaker 3: out there and be ready to get to be embarrassed,

475
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Speaker 3: to like do stupid shit that is going to make

476
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: you feel like, oh my god, I can't believe I

477
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: just put that out there. And that's the same kind

478
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Speaker 3: of thing in life. You have to put yourself out there.

479
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: You have to be willing to take that slice of

480
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: embarrassment in order to have a bigger piece of the pie, right,

481
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 3: you really need to. And I think you know that's

482
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Speaker 3: why I break things down to more bite sized, digestible,

483
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: you know, snippets and moves, because I think the feeling, the.

484
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: Barrier to entry is so big.

485
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Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I can't do all that. The feeling

486
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Speaker 3: is I have to overhaul my whole entire life. I

487
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Speaker 3: have to find a new life. I have to find

488
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Speaker 3: a new job, I have to find a new partner.

489
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Speaker 3: I have to find, you know, a better wardrobe. I've

490
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Speaker 3: got to buy a new house or whatever it is.

491
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Speaker 3: It's like we always think these things are going to

492
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Speaker 3: fix our direction or our path or our trajectory, and

493
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: it's really you and I both know that's not what

494
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Speaker 3: it's about. It's about the everyday habits. It's about the

495
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Speaker 3: things that you do every single day that add up

496
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Speaker 3: over time, that are done consistently, that create the path

497
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Speaker 3: and the results that you're looking for.

498
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Speaker 2: And it's not always fun. It's not always easy.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes, which is really hard to sell as

500
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Speaker 1: a concept or a product, is it's fucking slow sometimes.

501
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Speaker 3: You know what, most times it's not fast. I mean

502
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Speaker 3: people always I have this woman reaching out to me

503
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Speaker 3: recently and she asked me again and again, like I

504
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: want to do what you do. I want the flexibility

505
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 3: that you have. I want to you know, how did

506
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: you build this and how did you get to so

507
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: many studios.

508
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Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, this has been twenty years. Twenty years.

509
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Speaker 1: You know.

510
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Speaker 3: When I was going after the beach body gig, that

511
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Speaker 3: took me ten years to lay on that job. And

512
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Speaker 3: it took me ten years. Every six months I made

513
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: a phone call to the individual, the producer at that

514
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: company and said, remember me for ten years before I

515
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: actually got a contract signed with them. So like, it's

516
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Speaker 3: just you know, you know, people see that as an

517
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Speaker 3: overnight thing, and it's obviously not, and you've got to

518
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Speaker 3: be patient. But it's the repetition, it's the consistency, it's

519
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: doing the thing doing the thing, doing the thing, doing

520
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Speaker 3: the thing, and then eventually you start to feel a

521
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Speaker 3: little bit of traction, You start to feel a little

522
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Speaker 3: momentum building, and that gives.

523
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Speaker 2: You a little bit of a buzz. Right, That's that's

524
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Speaker 2: where motivation comes.

525
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Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, and being able to keep doing what in

526
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Speaker 1: the short term doesn't work or do you know what

527
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Speaker 1: I mean? It's like the first six hundred episodes of

528
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Speaker 1: this show, Andrea, I lost money, Like, not only did

529
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Speaker 1: I not make money, and then eventually we got I

530
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Speaker 1: partnered with an organization called an over Entertainment over here,

531
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Speaker 1: who have multiple radio stations all over the country, and

532
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Speaker 1: they're great, they're great partners. But yeah, I mean I

533
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: didn't really know, but I believed on knew. I just thought, well,

534
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Speaker 1: I'm getting better at this. I'm not terrible. I was terrible,

535
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Speaker 1: then I was kind of shitty. Then I was average,

536
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Speaker 1: and then I you know, and now I'm not terrible.

537
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: And but how do you get good at the thing

538
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: that you don't do? How do you master what you avoid?

539
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: How do you win over the long term if you

540
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Speaker 1: give up three weeks in every time, right.

541
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Speaker 2: Exactly six hundred episodes.

542
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Speaker 3: I love that that's that's that's that's a beast of

543
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Speaker 3: a project that isn't overnight.

544
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I I shouldn't even tell you this. I

545
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Speaker 1: spent fifty grand or thirty or forty grand, I should

546
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Speaker 1: say on a little studio down stairs, not where I'm

547
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: at right now. And then I just and I had

548
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Speaker 1: to pay people to produce an edit and put it

549
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Speaker 1: together and upload it because I'm too fucking dumb to

550
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Speaker 1: do all that. And I would say I spent one

551
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Speaker 1: hundred grand before I started to and not that I mean,

552
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Speaker 1: I didn't do it to become rich, but I definitely

553
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Speaker 1: I would rather make it. You know, I'm like, wow,

554
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: like it's free for everyone anyway, but I don't want

555
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: it to you know. But the thing is over time,

556
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know, whether or not it's a

557
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: martial art, or whether or not it's building a business

558
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: and an organization multiple times like you have, whether or

559
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: not it's writing a book or you know, my first

560
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: book was kind of rubbish, My third book was not

561
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: total rubbish. You know. My first television interview was a nightmare.

562
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: My tenth one was not terrible. It's like, this is

563
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: the process of getting good is for most people. Whatever

564
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: it is that you do for the first time, you're

565
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: going to be somewhere between complete crap and okay. But

566
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: how you develop mastery, how you develop mastery is just

567
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: keep fucking showing up.

568
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: One of the books I have out here is Mastery.

569
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: I I preach this and even in my workouts, like

570
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: it's it's a simple. It's a way to simplify it, right,

571
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: because it's an analogy for everything in life, you know,

572
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: I think especially nowadays, we are so quick to move

573
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 3: on to the next we want the next thing, right,

574
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Speaker 3: Like we can't even watch a one minute video without

575
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 3: getting bored, and we are constantly overstimulated, and we are

576
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: constantly wanting instant gratification and something that hits that dopamine

577
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: every single day, and that is not realistic to you know,

578
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: building and sustaining any type of success in any area

579
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: of your life. And if you take something as simple

580
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: as a workout, you need repetition. Repetition is it. Repetition

581
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: is your is your is your light, it's your spotlight

582
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: towards success. Repetition is where you learn what you're doing good,

583
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: what you're not doing good, and how to master it.

584
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: And we have been of voidant of mastery we are

585
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: all about. I mean even in like the companies that

586
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: I work with are like, let's do one hundred new workouts.

587
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, or we could do five and have them

588
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: repeat it, because because why would we not.

589
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: Like back in the day, we had one workout video,

590
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Speaker 3: one DVD and we did that same workout for a

591
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: year and people got amazing results. Why because they learned

592
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Speaker 3: how to get stronger, and then they learned how to

593
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: optimize their form, and then they learned how to you know,

594
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: get for more out of every bit their range of.

595
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Speaker 2: Motion, their technique.

596
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Speaker 3: Like we we now don't give ourselves the chance to

597
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: fail and then succeed. We are just constantly trying to

598
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Speaker 3: throw something new. That's going to be the answer. That's

599
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: the answer. That's the answer. That's the answer.

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Speaker 2: That's the answer, you know.

601
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: And so instead of trying to find a new workout

602
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: every single day of the week to stimulate your senses,

603
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: why don't you strip it down and start focusing on

604
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: how you can get comfortable with repetition and repeating some

605
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: things in your life and knowing that every day there

606
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: is a little gain that happens when you start to

607
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: lean into that.

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00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, love it exactly right. And I think because you know,

609
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: like we spoke about before, it's quite often not fun, quick, easy, sexy,

610
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Speaker 1: or painless. All things that we love in twenty twenty five.

611
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: We love shortcuts, we love magic pills, we love quick fixings,

612
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: we love instant gratification, we love dopamine. We love pressing

613
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: the fucking dopamine button. But when I eat the salad

614
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: and the chicken breast rather than the whatever it is,

615
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: the burger, well, you know, it's like doesn't do it

616
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: for me. So I'll have the burger, and I'll start

617
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: on Monday, and then Monday becomes two thousand and thirty four, right,

618
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: And then we have the same internal dialogue about the

619
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: same shit for years, sometimes decades, and then wake up

620
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: one day and go, I'm fifty, and how the fuck

621
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: did this happen to my body?

622
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Like, well, where did my life go?

623
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Speaker 1: There's a correlation between choices and behaviors and outcomes. You know,

624
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to again, not trying to throw shade,

625
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: but you know that that's that like your life's going

626
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: to happen anyway. I feel like this is a bit

627
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: deep and philosophical by the way, it's only seven thirty

628
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: in the morning over here.

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Speaker 3: So we're starting not strong.

630
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: What time is it where you are?

631
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're four thirty PM, four thirty in the afternoons,

632
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: just about school chip the time.

633
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Speaker 1: That's why you look so good and awake. But that

634
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: just being willing to you know, just go all right,

635
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: this is going to take a while. It's not going

636
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Speaker 1: to be fun, quick, easy, or painless. And that's fine,

637
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: and and I won't I won't see amazing results quickly

638
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: more than likely. But also, how do I make this

639
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: a you know, this habit or this behavior or this

640
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: protocol or whatever it is that works for me? How

641
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: do I make this a thing that's now hardwired into

642
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: my normal operating system versus a thing that I do.

643
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Speaker 1: Because I had a conversation with Andrea, and I'm pumped, you.

644
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: Know, because that's not sustainable.

645
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to create new neural pathways, new subconscious programming,

646
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, a new way of doing and being that's

647
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: optimal for you and optimal for me. Knowing that what

648
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: works optimally for Andrea definitely why I'm working for Craig

649
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: and vice versa.

650
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And you know, it's funny I teach

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Speaker 3: my daughters this. You know, I'm a single mother. I

652
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Speaker 3: have two daughters, like a twelve year old and a

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Speaker 3: fourteen year old, and I don't live near family. I'm

654
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Speaker 3: really doing it all on my own and trying to

655
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Speaker 3: raise these girls to be determined, successful, of strong character

656
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Speaker 3: and have courage in life.

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Speaker 2: You know.

658
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Speaker 3: And these are the lessons that I am teaching them

659
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Speaker 3: are the same lessons, which is like you get what

660
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: you give, honey, you know, and you got to focus

661
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: on how you can try harder and harder a little

662
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Speaker 3: bit harder every single day, and that you got to

663
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Speaker 3: keep showing up even when it's hard. You just got

664
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Speaker 3: to keep showing up and keep giving yourself that, you know.

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Speaker 3: Future talk is what I always say, is like who

666
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Speaker 3: do you want.

667
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: To be in the future?

668
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: And when you have a talk with yourself in the future,

669
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Speaker 3: and you know, for my twelve and fourteen year old,

670
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: they're like eye rolling, here comes another lecture from mom.

671
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: But you know, who do you want to be in

672
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: the future? Right Like I didn't get to where I'm

673
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: at right now by just sitting back and like letting

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Speaker 3: you know things happen for me.

675
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: I didn't you know.

676
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Speaker 3: I had a lot of challenges in my life, and

677
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: I had a choice to either sit in the closet

678
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: and cry it out or to buck it up and

679
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: make some moves in my life. And I decided to

680
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: believe in myself, and I decided that I wanted to

681
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Speaker 3: have my future self be proud of the efforts that

682
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Speaker 3: I made in my life. And that's the messaging that

683
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Speaker 3: I give my girls, like you've got to wake up

684
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: every day and figure out what kind of day you're

685
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: going to have, not let the day dictate to you

686
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: what you are feeling. You're going to have to figure

687
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: out how you respond to challenges in life. And right now,

688
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: as teenage girls, let me tell you, the challenges are there,

689
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: their present, and they're much harder than I had to

690
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Speaker 3: deal with as a teenage girl. And so it's like

691
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: equipping them with this inner confidence and courage and also

692
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: understanding that you know, you got to do the thing.

693
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: You just got to do the thing, and you've got

694
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Speaker 3: to get through it and it's not going.

695
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Speaker 2: To be cozy and it's not going to always.

696
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Speaker 3: Be you know, I always say, this is not a

697
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Speaker 3: rainbows and sprinkles kind of day.

698
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: Okay, but you still got to get through it.

699
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Speaker 3: And so it's trying to create that, you know, that

700
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: growth mindset as we talk about, but it's more than that.

701
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: It's like that strength mindset. It's that empowerment mindset. It's

702
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: the there's no opportunity for the excuses to float in

703
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: because you're the person that just does the thing. And

704
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Speaker 3: so I'm working hard to kind of create that mindset

705
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Speaker 3: for all the people that I work with, but specifically

706
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Speaker 3: for my two daughters.

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Speaker 1: And the only way that people you know, whether or

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Speaker 1: not she's twelve and four nine year old, or you

709
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Speaker 1: or mail any of our listeners, but the only way

710
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Speaker 1: that we can individually build resilience is by doing or

711
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: dealing with hardshit. Right, It's like you can't sit on

712
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 1: the couch eating potato chips building resilience. Like there's like

713
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Speaker 1: we actually need to go through adversity, through through challenge,

714
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: through discomfort, through loss, through suffering, through learning and unlearning,

715
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: like we need to we need to climb the mountain

716
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: to build that strength and fitness and awareness and understanding.

717
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Speaker 1: It's all well and good to talk about resilience, but

718
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: we need to help people who want to be helped,

719
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: of course, to understand how that growth happens and growth doesn't.

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Speaker 1: This kind of growth does not happen in comfort.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what, looking back, I think,

722
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Speaker 3: you know, when you look back on those times, that's

723
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: exactly the lesson. When you're in it, it's really shitty

724
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Speaker 3: and it's really hard, and you're like, I know, I'm

725
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: going to look forward and I'll be stronger on the

726
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Speaker 3: other side, but this is hard right now. But truly,

727
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Speaker 3: when I look back on those times that brought me

728
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Speaker 3: to my knees and completely wiped out my world that

729
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 3: I thought was so great and I had to start

730
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Speaker 3: completely over from scratch, I truly am so so grateful

731
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: for those challenges because I am a different woman. I

732
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: am a different human being. I'm a different mother, I'm

733
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Speaker 3: a different friend, I'm a different business owner because I

734
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Speaker 3: was able to get through that and also figure it out,

735
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 3: like I had to figure shit out. That was really

736
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: hard and really tough. That up into that point in

737
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Speaker 3: my life, I didn't have to figure it out, and

738
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Speaker 3: I worked hard, but I didn't have to figure out

739
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: really tough shit, and I when shit hit the fan,

740
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Speaker 3: I did, and looking back on those times, I'm like,

741
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Speaker 3: I would not be where I'm at right now. It

742
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: would not be anywhere where I'm at right now without

743
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: you know, kind of that the world spinning in front

744
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: of me and me falling to the floor. And it's

745
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: that resilience that was built that created stronger character, stronger

746
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: reserves for me to be able to tackle everything else

747
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: that comes in my life. And recently just went through

748
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: another personal challenge and I'm like, I got this. Are

749
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: you kidding me? Why my armor's so strong? That's what

750
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: I said to my friends. I'm like, I've got an

751
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: armor on, Like I've got like this, you know, this

752
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: shield now because i have went through the hardship and

753
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: now I'm like, I'm ready for it.

754
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: I'm equipped for it.

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00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: Doesn't make it easy, it doesn't mean it didn't hurt,

756
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: But I just feel like I'm such a stronger person

757
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: to be able to deal with any of that now

758
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: because I've learned through it.

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00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I feel like in personal development

760
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: and you know, motivational psychology and self help and all

761
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: the you know, the legit stuff and kind of the

762
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: bullshit stuff, but with a lot of it's very much

763
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: focused on all things external, right how do I build

764
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: a better business that people can see or brand, or

765
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: how do I get more likes or how do I

766
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, nothing wrong with creating a better body, of course,

767
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: but again, this is something that people can see and

768
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: look at my situation, circumstance, environment, house card, job, money, income, brand, profile, qualifications,

769
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: all shit that people can see, right, And none of

770
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: those things are bad. But for me, it's all the

771
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: stuff that people don't see, that inner world of feelings

772
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: and love and hate and fear and anxiety and self

773
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: doubt and self love and values and beliefs and purpose

774
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: and faith and like, this is where living happens in

775
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: this internal space, but life happens in the external space.

776
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: But we're so externally focused. I think I'm getting a

777
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: bit deep. You can tell me to shut up, but

778
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: I feel like we try and resolve internal stuff with

779
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: external solutions or external achievements decisions down up sidebox.

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00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, And we are making decisions on those external factors.

781
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: We're making decisions on what other people will perceive us

782
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: to be, which is wild when you think about it,

783
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: I mean it really is. It's it's absolutely wild. Yeah,

784
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: And it's not an easy thing to let go of right.

785
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean, we're inundated with that in our daily life,

786
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: and so it's funny. I just talked to three good

787
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: friends today. Three good friends. They're all podcasters, they have

788
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: a big following, they're in our industry, and we were

789
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: talking about the book launch and how they could support

790
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 3: it just being good friends, and they're all off social

791
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: media at the moment, and they had they had made

792
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: all three of them, like independently. I was like, WHOA,

793
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: what's happening today, And all of them said they had

794
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: to make a decision because they felt like it was

795
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: really affect those external factors were really affecting their internal choices,

796
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: and so very timely on this conversation, and I, you know,

797
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: just respected that they had to make that choice. Listen,

798
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm not going off forever. And they've built tremendous following,

799
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: so they have a lot of value add there and

800
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: it's part of their business. But they're like, right now,

801
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: this is the decision I need to make in order

802
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 3: to support my internal passions and purpose and.

803
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: Like what really fuels me. I need to get back

804
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: to that.

805
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: And not making decisions based on the likes, the post

806
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: the engagement, Like I need to actually do what's more

807
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 3: purposeful for me, and they're hoping that will resonate more

808
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 3: not only with their internal self, but with their eventually

809
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: their external audience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think for me it's so nice slack

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00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: a financial bank account at times versus our emotional and

812
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 1: spiritual bank account. It's like, what, Okay, I'm making good

813
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: dough and I've got lots of stuff. Yeah, well done me.

814
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: But you and I both know lots of people with

815
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: lots of stuff. I mean, and from the outside mineral yeah, well,

816
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, it's all Hollywood, it's all

817
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: fucking you know, jazz hands. But see that's.

818
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: Pretty I love me see them, Greg. That was really good.

819
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: Actually it was energy, that was full out. I liked it.

820
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Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to spoil you,

821
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, but at the same time, spiritually and emotionally bankrupt.

822
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in a judgy way, but

823
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Speaker 1: you know, I see it. I work with these people.

824
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: They tell me, they go, I know that I'm successful

825
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: in a sense because the world, the world judges success

826
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: on things, not an emotional or psychological state or happiness

827
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Speaker 1: or joy or purpose or fulfillment or meaning. Or equanimity

828
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: or calm. It's like, yeah, fuck all that, But what

829
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: do you drive? How many fund you drive?

830
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: What is your house? Look? What are your clothes wearing?

831
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: What brands are you wearing? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Not and also not? What medication are you on? How

833
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: many anxiety attacks do you have a day? How are

834
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Speaker 3: you You know, it's mind blowing and I don't think

835
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Speaker 3: that's going to change anytime soon. So it's really up

836
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Speaker 3: to us to understand what our value is, what we

837
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: want to feel in terms of value, what is our

838
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: definition of it?

839
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Speaker 2: You know?

840
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: What is your purpose? Is your purpose to show off

841
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: and to become somebody that everybody is in awe of?

842
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: Or is it to become in awe of yourself? You know,

843
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: and to feel really good about who you are and

844
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: what you do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not an easy thing. How often do we get

846
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: to the top of the mountain and we're like, oh, fuck,

847
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: it's the wrong mountain. I think it's that mountain over there,

848
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Speaker 1: or you know, get we get the thing we wanted,

849
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: and then oh I got the thing I wanted? And

850
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: now but how come I still you know? Yeah, I

851
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: had had an experience when I was in my early thirties.

852
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: I bore you. But I had five different businesses, one

853
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: hundred staff, and I was doing great and everyone thought

854
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: I was doing great, but I didn't feel great. I

855
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: didn't feel great at all, like I was. Yeah, I

856
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: was probably the least happy I've ever been in my life.

857
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it was, you know, causation, but

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: it was definitely there was a relationship. It was a correlation,

859
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, so the outside doesn't necessarily or

860
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: often reflect the inside. Let's talk about the bloody book.

861
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: You don't say bloody book in the States, but we

862
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: say the bloody book here.

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00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 3: And you know, I have a lot of old friends,

864
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 3: so yeah, we say bloody book.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about tell us about your bloody book.

866
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 3: And yeah, well it's teed up perfectly because there really

867
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: is a lot of what we just discussed in terms

868
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: of how to really optimize your your efforts in your

869
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: life and to make take control over what you want

870
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: to do and feel and be in this world. And

871
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: working with women for so many years as we just

872
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: talked about, and everybody seems to come to me with

873
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: the same concerns as we talked about, being the therapist

874
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: in the fitness studio and what can I do to

875
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: lose weight? What can I do to feel better? How

876
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: can I be more motivated? So it turned into these

877
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: little mini sessions in my volates practice into coaching, into mentoring,

878
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: into doing retreats and workshops.

879
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 2: And all this stuff.

880
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: And finally I was like, all right, I'm going to

881
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: just put it into a book. I'm going to put

882
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: the things down that are these things that have worked

883
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 3: for me and a lot of my clients. They're everyday

884
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: things that you can do. They're simple, easy, less than

885
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: thirty minutes a day. It adds up to that make

886
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: a difference, and they've made a difference in my life

887
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: and so many women that I've worked with. So let's

888
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: put it down and hopefully it makes a dent in

889
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: someone else's life and makes an impact. So essentially seven

890
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: daily practices that I do. Again, nothing's rocket science, Craig.

891
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: These are things that you probably have done or at

892
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: some point in your life, or you've heard of, or

893
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's nothing crazy, But when you optimize

894
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: it and you're intentional with it and you execute, you

895
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: will feel like an completely different person at the end

896
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: of it. So it's really about finding the habit formation

897
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: and leaning into the power of consistency.

898
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: So the book is called Small Moves, Big Life. Seven

899
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: daily practices to supercharge your energy, productivity, and happiness. And

900
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: is it is it vailable in an audio or will

901
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: it be? Or yeah, oh it is already.

902
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: I just finished recording.

903
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: Not yet, it'll it launches October fourteenth, and the audiobook

904
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: will launch it at the same time. So yeah, just

905
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: finished recording that. That was a fun That was fun.

906
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: All right, So so good to talk to you. You're

907
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: pretty bloody good at what you do. I've got a

908
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: couple of are you ready for one or two curly

909
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: questions as we wind up, I like it, all right,

910
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: tell me something you need to get better at.

911
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: Patience?

912
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: Immediate answer patience because I because I am someone that

913
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: attacks everything very quickly. I have an idea, Craig, and

914
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's go, let's trademarket, let's figure out how

915
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: to do it, let's contact the right people, and I

916
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: just move. And sometimes that has kicked my ass because

917
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: I've jumped before. I actually had a real strong foundation

918
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: to jump from, and I've learned a lot of lessons

919
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: from that. But I continue to be challenged in that

920
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: I need to learn how to sometimes slow down, assess

921
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: the situation, calm down a little bit, and then take action.

922
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm someone that just moves very very quickly and sometimes

923
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: too abruptly. So got to get better patients.

924
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: Something that you thank you good answer, Something that you

925
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: have had to unlearn, Like something that you thought was true,

926
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: that you maybe even preached or practiced and you've since done,

927
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: if not a one eighty, a one forty, Like for me,

928
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: there's been fucking fifty things, but something that yeah, you

929
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: had to let go of or you realize you might

930
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: have got wrong.

931
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: First thing that comes to mind is more is not more.

932
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: And I say that in respect to franchise growth. So

933
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: as I was growing the business, again lean into your

934
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: first question and patience, I just jumped right in and

935
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: I found the best franchise attorney. I surrounded myself with

936
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: the best people in the business and just starting to

937
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 3: go out of the gate. And I wasn't quite there yet, right.

938
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 3: I had no idea. I was so green and had

939
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: no idea what franchising meant and the infrastructure that was

940
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: required to properly support the studios, and so there were

941
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: a lot of lessons learned and so would I tell

942
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: people now when people are trying to either a franchise

943
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: license or just build their business beyond their single brick

944
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: and mortar, is like, just lean in to the small.

945
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: Really master your market and that specific niche that you're in,

946
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: whether it's from that local bakery or whether it's an online,

947
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: you know, retail store that you have before you think

948
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: you have to expand, because expansion does not mean revenue increase.

949
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: It means a lot of work that comes with it.

950
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: And as you mentioned right with your multiple different businesses,

951
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: sometimes more is not more. And so I've had to

952
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: kind of undo that lesson in life in general and

953
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: start focusing on you know, sometimes you just need to

954
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: scale back and that is enough.

955
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, the next question, you're going good, I'm

956
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: giving you a I'm giving you a high distinction. At

957
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: the moment, I need to give you a thirty second

958
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: synopsis of my PhD. My PhD is about a thing

959
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: called metaperception and meta accuracy, which is your ability Andrea

960
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: to understand the Andrea experience for others. So, in other words,

961
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: what's it like being around me? So I have to

962
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: be quite aware of that because sometimes people go well,

963
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: you're a bit intimidating. Sometimes people go, I love your stuff,

964
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: but you swear too much or whatever, right, And some

965
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: people go, you're great, I love you. Some people go,

966
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: you're a dick ed fuck off. Right, So all of that, yeah, yeah, yeah,

967
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: the whole But what do you think? What do you

968
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: think it's like being around you? How do you think

969
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: people perceive you? Now this is coming from self awareness,

970
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: not self loathing. But what do you think the Andrea

971
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: experience is? Luck?

972
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, self awareness one of the most important traits I

973
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: believe in terms of finding my connection with human beings

974
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: or do you have self awareness? And sometimes it's on

975
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: and sometimes it's off. I would say from my perspective

976
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: being around me, I feel like the word that comes

977
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: to mind is energy. So I feel like I give off.

978
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: I give a lot to other people in terms of energy,

979
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: and hopefully that translates into absorption of my energy. And

980
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: it's not always It's not like this toxic positivity. I'm

981
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: not that type of person. But I am energized. I'm

982
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: energized whatever it is I'm working towards, I'm energized. If

983
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm having a conversation with you, I'm really energized by it,

984
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: and I'm energized by life and the opportunities in life.

985
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: So again, similar to your story, wasn't the most talented,

986
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: and everything I did had some innate talent there, but

987
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: I had to work really hard at it, and I

988
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: was energized by the opportunity. And so my lafers to

989
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: try to energize as many individuals as possible to be

990
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: excited about their opportunities.

991
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it all, right, last one, So we're

992
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: going to do a little co kind of thought experiments.

993
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: So one of the things that I talk about with

994
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: groups is amongst a bunch of other stuff, but we go,

995
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: let's talk about the skills, qualities, attributes, habits, and behaviors

996
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: of high performers. And by that I mean I don't

997
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: mean olympians and astronauts and people curing cancer. I just

998
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 1: mean anyone like you who obviously you're talented, but you've

999
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: really got a lot out of what you've got to

1000
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: work with. Right, So, like, my favorite high performer is

1001
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: my mum, who's eighty five and had cancer three times,

1002
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: got the best attitude in the world, Right, She's my favorite. Right,

1003
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: So I'm going to give a few like what I

1004
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: think are really important skills, attributes, habits, or behaviors of

1005
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: high performers. So Number one for me is our willingness

1006
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: to do hardship or deal with discomfort right, which is

1007
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: a no brainer. Number two would be having an understanding

1008
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: of what success is for us, not what the world

1009
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: says or mom and dad want, or not what culture

1010
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: or social media says, but truly understanding what success means

1011
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 1: for us. And it probably tags into my third one,

1012
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: which is knowing, truly knowing what your values are so

1013
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: that you can build a life around those values. And

1014
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: when you know your values, that makes all your decisions easy,

1015
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: well not easy, but clear. Like I've spoken about this

1016
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: too many times on this show, but it seems at

1017
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: the moment every ten sponsorship opportunities I get on this show,

1018
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: and I might say that Nova, who's kind of my boss.

1019
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: They're not thrilled with me, but I have to say

1020
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: no because it's shit that I can't sell and that

1021
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't not use and I would not tell other

1022
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: people to use. Doesn't mean it's a terrible thing. It's

1023
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: just that I don't want to sell. So values, so success,

1024
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: dealing with discomfort knowing what values. What might you add

1025
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: to that list in terms of what's really important to

1026
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: have or be or know to get the most out

1027
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: of you.

1028
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you took most of mine, but the value

1029
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: let me.

1030
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: Talk about that on purpose. And I like that.

1031
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know I mentioned to you earlier.

1032
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: With my daughters, I want them to be kind and courageous, right,

1033
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 3: and I want them to be a strong character. You know,

1034
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: I grew up in a Midwestern house with I say

1035
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 3: I won the lottery. With my parents, Craig, they were

1036
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: not only there to support my dreams. They kept me humble.

1037
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: They put my feet on the ground. My dad was

1038
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: the kind of guy that would drop everything to take

1039
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 3: me to an audition. My mother was there sewing my

1040
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: dance costumes. But they my mom would always also say like, oh,

1041
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: I trained you to know right from wrong like you

1042
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: trained me. She's like, yeah, I wanted you to have

1043
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 3: a very strong moral compass. And the decisions that I've

1044
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: made in my life, some more challenging others, are based

1045
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: on my moral compass. And because I know who I

1046
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: am and I know what sits well with me and

1047
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: my heart and the kind of individual I want to be,

1048
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: it helps me to make strong decisions, whether it's in

1049
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: my personal life or my professional life, and that, to me,

1050
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 3: has been a very strong indicator of where I go,

1051
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 3: how I move, how I operate, who I work with,

1052
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: who I surround myself with. That is my goal, you know, right,

1053
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: So I really work from that moral compass. So if

1054
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: you listen to your own moral compass and you can

1055
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: lean into that, I think that's where a lot of

1056
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: power is in finding that alignment of what does and

1057
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: does not work with that compass and where it leads you.

1058
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: That to me is a powerful tool.

1059
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Wow. So I appreciate you super good. The book is

1060
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: called Small Moves, Big Live. Seven daily practices to superchage

1061
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: your energy, productivity, and happiness. And I just put on

1062
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: my radio voice. You're very welcome out now in all

1063
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: good bookstores and shit ones. And it's it's available on

1064
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: audio on audible. It's going to be on audio audible.

1065
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where it's landing with the audio, so

1066
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: we'll have to see.

1067
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so the audio is out there somewhere, so just

1068
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a scooch around. We'll say

1069
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: goodbye off air. But Andrea, thanks for Commen's play on

1070
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: the You project. Really enjoyed meeting you and thanks for

1071
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: connecting with our audience. I love you.

1072
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: You were fantastic, Craig. I love this conversation. Thank you.