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Speaker 1: But the premier not off the hook either, the Labor

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Speaker 1: Party that is, because today there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: rally of protest outside Peter Melanowska's electorate office, Port Road

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Speaker 1: welland twelve pm. Public housing tenants, low income renters will

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Speaker 1: be there. It's put on by the Anti Poverty Network

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Speaker 1: Essay and from that group. Sam Skinner, campaign coordinator on

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Speaker 1: the line, Sam, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, good morning, How are you mate?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thank you? What's the point you'd like to make?

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Speaker 2: Well, the point we'd like to make is that the

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Speaker 2: Malinowskis government, while they have made in roads, they have

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Speaker 2: changed made some changes to the legislation that means that,

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Speaker 2: for instance, landlords can't increase the rent more than once

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Speaker 2: every twelve months. But homes numbers are growing exponentially and

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Speaker 2: you know, there are several hundred homes just completed by

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Speaker 2: the Labor government and it's just not enough. We're in

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Speaker 2: a housing crisis.

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Speaker 1: Where can they get the people from to build the homes.

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Speaker 1: That's key to it, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're obviously making in roads in that as well.

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Speaker 2: They are offering you know, sea free taste and stuff

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Speaker 2: that they keep telling us about. But Ultimately, you know,

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Speaker 2: nothing should be off the table. There are other ways

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Speaker 2: that if they had the will, they could instigate you know,

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Speaker 2: rent freeze for a couple of years and rent caps

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Speaker 2: on going on from there until we're out of this crisis,

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Speaker 2: a crisis which was caused by the government selling the

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Speaker 2: public homes that we did have.

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Speaker 1: By the way, so they're taking baby steps, is what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. Essentially, take some giant steps instead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a housing crisis, though nothing should be off

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Speaker 2: the table. And when we're at a point in the

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Speaker 2: situation where, for instance, we've recently highlighted that there was

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Speaker 2: a family with disabled at a severely disabled child who

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Speaker 2: look like they may become homeless in the near future,

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Speaker 2: and when they spoke to things like the Homeless Gateway

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Speaker 2: and as they're having young stuff, they were basically told

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Speaker 2: that attempt was their best option and that you know,

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Speaker 2: they could manifest a house. Try to manifest the house.

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Speaker 2: And I mean to tell a family who had a

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Speaker 2: severely disabled child that is you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't even have words, but we have thousands of homes

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Speaker 2: during the last census, but it was over eighty thousand

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Speaker 2: homes on that night empty in South Australia. So a

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Speaker 2: vacancy tax of some sort. There are ways to help,

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Speaker 2: and I mean I think people know that. People know,

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Speaker 2: but we have over seven thousand people homeless at the

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Speaker 2: last at the last census. We're now a few years

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Speaker 2: down the track from that as well, so there's probably more.

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Speaker 2: And fifty percent of those people are under twenty four

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Speaker 2: years of age. Like do we want our kids out

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Speaker 2: on the street homeless? You know?

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Speaker 1: So seven thousand is that South Australia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just in the last census it was over

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Speaker 2: seven thousand people.

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Speaker 1: Yet, so a vacancy tax on long term empty homes?

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Speaker 1: How do you flesh that out for me? How do

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Speaker 1: you see that work?

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Speaker 2: I'm not the experience government policy, and there are you know,

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Speaker 2: plenty of people have waited into this.

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Speaker 1: Argument, but it's your proposal, So you don't have to

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Speaker 1: be into the government policy. What would your proposal look at?

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Speaker 1: How's empty for what? Thirty days sixty ninety one?

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Speaker 2: Look, there are different models for different things. For instance,

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Speaker 2: you know, a vacancy tax. Look, I'm trying to remember

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Speaker 2: we do have a policy section and they do talk

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Speaker 2: about that, and I should be I should have that

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Speaker 2: policy person. The government knows, you know, the ins and

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Speaker 2: and seriously discussed other ways to help the homeless problem.

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Speaker 1: All right, A rent freeze as well, you'd like that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, a rent freeze. Daily we have people telling us

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Speaker 2: that they're rents have gone out thirty dollars a week,

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Speaker 2: fifty dollars a week. Hell, we've had people tell us

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Speaker 2: it is in these hundreds of dollars, and it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And people talk about, oh, well, landlords need to cover

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Speaker 2: I get that for the four A mom and pop,

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Speaker 2: the big investors are not losing money. And medium house

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Speaker 2: prices since twenty twenty is now they've gone up from

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Speaker 2: some four hundred and seventy thousand dollars for the median

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Speaker 2: house prices during twenty twenty to today where it's over

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Speaker 2: seven hundred thousand. They like the price meetium price house

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Speaker 2: has increased three hundred thousand dollars in four years. So

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Speaker 2: there their asset is increasing this huge amount. At the moment,

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Speaker 2: so they also make money that way. They don't just

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Speaker 2: make money on rents, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so they've got the asset increasing as well

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Speaker 1: obviously as a result, and that's what's pushing rents up

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Speaker 1: because demand is driving both the price of houses and

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Speaker 2: Ultimately, the government needs to build houses. They need to

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Speaker 2: build as many. I know that's a problem supply of

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Speaker 2: you know, even the products to make the houses, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then the tradesmen. We know that's a problem, and

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Speaker 2: we know they can't do it overnight. So they have

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Speaker 2: to look outside the box.

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Speaker 1: And how do they do that though, I mean you've

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Speaker 1: acknowledged the problems, you understand them obviously, how do they

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Speaker 1: look outside the box? What solutions are there that governments

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Speaker 1: haven't been able to come up with, To find the resources,

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Speaker 1: to find the people. You know, they're training people as

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Speaker 1: quickly as they can and apprentice schemes and all of

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Speaker 1: that happening, but there's not enough people there. So how

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Speaker 1: do we overcome what it is? The box and outside?

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Speaker 2: Maybe we should all sit down together and talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we need a housing you know, discussion where all

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Speaker 2: parties sit at the table and discuss exactly what we

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Speaker 2: can do. I mean, I read a story recently about

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Speaker 2: in a housing prifers, when families are living in our parks,

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Speaker 2: they're jumping from sofa to sofa with the death families.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're going down and feeding them. You know,

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Speaker 2: when we're in a situation like that, we Yeah, everyone

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Speaker 2: who has anything to do with housing and welfare and

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Speaker 2: the government should be talking together and working together. We've

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Speaker 2: got you know, we always feel like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: or they are not trying to stop housing been built.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to get us more, you know, all of

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Speaker 2: every every part government, every part of the you know,

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Speaker 2: groups like ours and and you know even the people

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Speaker 2: with the lived experience are suffering so badly. Get them

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Speaker 2: all in a room, let's talk about it, let's talk.

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Speaker 2: Let's really think outside the square about what we can

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Speaker 2: do to get people off the streets, because, as we know,

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Speaker 2: some of them are dying out there in the street.

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Speaker 1: So Sam today twelve o'clock outside the Premier's office, he's

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Speaker 1: setting up tents. What are you doing. You're going to

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Speaker 1: be there for a while.

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Speaker 2: We are going to be there. We'll be there just

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Speaker 2: for a short period of time. We're not as when

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Speaker 2: it comes to activism in South Australia, we don't get there,

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Speaker 2: you know, hundreds of thousands of people on the street

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Speaker 2: and certainly not for homeless people. But we will be there.

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Speaker 2: We have some excellent speakers to tell people about their

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Speaker 2: experiences and we have some excellent people with some much

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Speaker 2: more knowledge than me on policy and stuff like that

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Speaker 2: as well. If they can get out there, come out

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Speaker 2: a couple of hours and say hello and see what

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Speaker 2: we're up to.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Sam, thank you for your time. Good

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Speaker 1: luck with it today she is mate. Thank you Sam

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Speaker 1: Skinner there who is campaign coordinated Anti Poverty Network of

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Speaker 1: South Australia. Rally to be held outside the electorate office

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Speaker 1: of Peter melanowskis the premiere at mid day