Speaker 1: From the Skying in Center. This is Paul Murray live.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Any parent who's had the chance to be able to
Speaker 1: see their kids get married, you know the pride that
Speaker 1: has inside you. I now understand why my mother was
Speaker 1: a little upset when I decided to go off on
Speaker 1: a lope on the other side of the world. Well,
Speaker 1: two of our favorite people, especially a young lady by
Speaker 1: the name of Madison Thorne, who has been the EP
Speaker 1: of this program for a long time. She got married
Speaker 1: on the weekend and my little girls were her flower girls.
Speaker 1: The pride, the tears that I had when they're just
Speaker 1: the flower girls. Wait till forty years time, right, forty
Speaker 1: years time, when they it's their moment. But it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Congrats Nomadic Congrats Toadom and al Jason photos a little
Speaker 1: later in the week now tonight. Lots to get to,
Speaker 1: including yes, the shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Speaker 1: The people who will not fail this time despite the
Speaker 1: fact that they failed last time. I'll show you the data.
Speaker 1: White Trump is still winning the presidential race, despite the hype,
Speaker 1: despite the money, and speaking of what about the bloke
Speaker 1: who's spent like more than one hundred thousand dollars buying
Speaker 1: Princess Leia's bikini. It's been a while since it was
Speaker 1: worn nineteen eighty three, but still he's decided to purchase
Speaker 1: it for a lot of money. A little bit creepy,
Speaker 1: but I know it's winter, but it's really freezing at
Speaker 1: the moment, isn't it. I don't know about you, but
Speaker 1: as you've seen sort of, you know, most of us
Speaker 1: are walking around with slightly sore throats or feel it
Speaker 1: just like that extra jumper all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter, like when I was in Queensland
Speaker 1: not that long ago, freezing Victoria of course as always cold,
Speaker 1: you know, tazzy, you name it cold everywhere, right, So
Speaker 1: we learned today that there is an eastern frigid cold snap.
Speaker 1: It's going to make things even worse for places like Brisbane,
Speaker 1: where the expectation is that their ten year weather records
Speaker 1: and temperatures are going to go Canber as always this
Speaker 1: timing year, but more and longer periods of time under freezing.
Speaker 1: Of course, we have a weather channel here, so it's
Speaker 1: helpful to find out why is it so cold this winter?
Speaker 2: Yesterday the apparent temperature stayed below seven degrees all day
Speaker 2: in Sydney, and it looks like a similar thing today
Speaker 2: if you factor in these cold west to southwesterly winds
Speaker 2: thanks to a low pressure cell that's just off the
Speaker 2: New South Wales coastline at the moment.
Speaker 1: But poor Kenny, Kenny, heatly go outside and prove that
Speaker 1: it's cold. Poor bugger doing the reporting again. When does
Speaker 1: this get better? Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Wednesday, Thursday look okay, still a little bit blustery and
Speaker 2: cool in Sydney, but not as bad as what we're
Speaker 2: seeing yesterday and today in this weekend a bit cloudy,
Speaker 2: so the cloud trapping at a bit of heat at night,
Speaker 2: keeping those minimum temperatures higher and daytime temperatures up into
Speaker 2: the high scenes.
Speaker 1: Why start with the weather when we can all look
Speaker 1: outside and me we'll know it's cold. Because it's also
Speaker 1: a reminder, whatever heater that you have, make sure that
Speaker 1: there are blankets that are as far away from them
Speaker 1: as possible. If you've got one of those old school
Speaker 1: bar heaters, you probably should replace it by now. But
Speaker 1: if you've got one of them, please please please make
Speaker 1: sure that there is nothing If you fell asleep in
Speaker 1: the chair watching Telly, or if you've got it close
Speaker 1: to the bed, Please make sure nothing is in contact
Speaker 1: with the heater. On normal years where there's not huge
Speaker 1: spikes in the number of lives that are lost during bushfires,
Speaker 1: there are more people who lose their lives and their
Speaker 1: homes during these winter periods of time. So I love you,
Speaker 1: I need you to be around, Your family needs you
Speaker 1: to be around. So please be safe with the heaters
Speaker 1: that are around you because it is very cold.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, today the major focus was the new version
Speaker 1: of the greatest government of all time, the reshuffle, because
Speaker 1: two people decided to hang up their boots. But there's
Speaker 1: more than two changes that, of course were made, and
Speaker 1: we know that the actual story here was that Andrew
Speaker 1: Giles and Clara O'Neil, because of their hopeless handling of
Speaker 1: the immigration and National security portfolios that are home affairs,
Speaker 1: of course, have all been booted, and rightly so now
Speaker 1: we know why. But it is kind of amazing when
Speaker 1: you watch the six PM news or wider political coverage
Speaker 1: that no one really talks about the reason for the
Speaker 1: moves that have been made. They get to it eventually,
Speaker 1: but of course it's the poles now, the polls right
Speaker 1: now show that in the six months between now and
Speaker 1: the most likely next election, the government is behind. Now yes,
Speaker 1: because of the teals, we don't know what the results
Speaker 1: going to be, but the almost inevitability of the minority
Speaker 1: government scenario for labor and deeper minority means more Greens
Speaker 1: and more crazy is being in charge of things. But
Speaker 1: poll after Pole News poll has got it. In a
Speaker 1: scenario where the coalition's vote is strengthening. Are the polls
Speaker 1: that one in the Financial Review shows the coalition overtaking
Speaker 1: the popular vote numbers now fifty one to forty nine
Speaker 1: for them over in the Resolve poll. Peter Dutton is
Speaker 1: edging your head. Why because voters are consistently moving against
Speaker 1: this government when it comes to the handling of the economy,
Speaker 1: and it is the only issue, of course, with daylight second,
Speaker 1: but so little chat about it because of course the
Speaker 1: PM was out there selling his wares and geez, how
Speaker 1: brave of him to rearrange his troops, while the rest
Speaker 1: of the countries is understandably just enjoying the relief that
Speaker 1: he is watching the Olympics for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And I get it, and I thank you for watching
Speaker 1: us live and certainly listening to us at skynews dot
Speaker 1: com are you podcast and all the rest of it here,
Speaker 1: and you are the hardcorese You are the people who
Speaker 1: have been so loyal to me, to this station for
Speaker 1: year in, year out, and we've forever thankful. But we
Speaker 1: know there are millions of people that are just you know,
Speaker 1: watching diving for the only time they do every four years.
Speaker 1: The Prime Minister uses the cover of that distraction to
Speaker 1: well make the changes that he needed to make because
Speaker 1: of the underperforming ministers. But the Prime Minister had the
Speaker 1: stones today to again tell us that up is down
Speaker 1: and black is white and what is before your very
Speaker 1: own eyes is a cheap fake like the Biden administration
Speaker 1: used to say about Joe Biden falling up the stairs.
Speaker 1: He claims that these major and significant changes, particularly this
Speaker 1: significants in and around home affairs. I no changes whatsoever.
Speaker 1: It's all steady as she goes, it's all continuity. It's
Speaker 1: all the greatest and most stable government since the best
Speaker 1: of the Howard years. Of course this isn't true, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean the Prime Minister won't say it.
Speaker 4: And that is something that my government has brought stability
Speaker 4: as I've said today we have the first reshuffle after
Speaker 4: more than two years and two months. That compares with
Speaker 4: four reshuffles under Peter Dutton. You've had dysfunction. On the
Speaker 4: other side, what you've had with this Labor government is stability, order,
Speaker 4: consistency going forward.
Speaker 1: Not to mention belligerence. Of course, the ministers who were
Speaker 1: there in immigration and in Home Affairs should have been
Speaker 1: sacked instead they're all moved around under the cover of
Speaker 1: the Olympics. One of the mean girls in Senator Gallay
Speaker 1: her she should have been sacked after being caught lying
Speaker 1: to the Senate about what she knew, and she didn't
Speaker 1: know about all of the matters to do with behaviors
Speaker 1: in and around Parliament House back in twenty nineteen. But
Speaker 1: the belligerence of this government is just never had been
Speaker 1: a mistake. Because if you've never had been a mistake,
Speaker 1: then you get to turn around and say how stable
Speaker 1: are we now. You didn't say how effective they were,
Speaker 1: he didn't say how good they were, He didn't say
Speaker 1: what they had achieved. It just was all about stability.
Speaker 1: It's the same logic that says when it comes to
Speaker 1: our economy. Sure, for five quarters in a row, which
Speaker 1: is a year and three months. We have been in
Speaker 1: a per capita recession. You are suffering. Yet because the
Speaker 1: government gets more money than they were planning out of
Speaker 1: things like growing bracket creep or maybe turning around an
Speaker 1: extra resources, they get to say that they're fantastic economic managers.
Speaker 1: Because there's a budget surplus. You're supposed to believe that
Speaker 1: despite the fact that you were going backwards. It had
Speaker 1: been going back every day since this bloke became Prime minister,
Speaker 1: with twelve interest rate rises thirteenth on the way. Oh,
Speaker 1: but they've got a suplus, which means that they know
Speaker 1: what they're doing. The two little too late tax cuts were,
Speaker 1: of course, billions of dollars wasted on a political slogan.
Speaker 1: The idea that they're paying the power bills of the
Speaker 1: mansions of this country at the same time as it's
Speaker 1: the exact same amount as the one bedroom unit tells
Speaker 1: you everything. It's all about politics, and amazingly, the people
Speaker 1: who know that the government is statistically in trouble right now.
Speaker 1: It has had plenty of problems. It has failed to
Speaker 1: deliver on its central promise on things like cost of
Speaker 1: living and interest rates are this close to going up
Speaker 1: again because inflation is not under control yet. Haven't listen
Speaker 1: to how most of them spoke today. They spoke as
Speaker 1: if they were taking it from the perspective of the
Speaker 1: Prime minister. Now, occasionally some people might agree because this
Speaker 1: is their preferred side of politics. But the reason they
Speaker 1: reshuffled the government is because they are behind in the
Speaker 1: polls and they are failing to meet their promise. But
Speaker 1: this stuff could have been written by Albo himself.
Speaker 3: Well, no one is being dropped.
Speaker 2: Both Immigration Minister Andrew Giles and Home Affairs Minister Claire
Speaker 2: O'Neill are widely expected to be shifted. This reshuffle marks
Speaker 2: a refresh for labor. I am stressed it had nothing
Speaker 2: to do with their handling off the release of more
Speaker 2: than one hundred and fifty immigration detainees.
Speaker 3: Reshuffles are an opportunity for renewal.
Speaker 5: They're an opportunity for refresh Prone to using football analogies,
Speaker 5: so here's one for him.
Speaker 4: You don't win Grand finals by having some of your
Speaker 4: best players sitting on the bench.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Nasi Niki Sava of course. So for Bilde, I
Speaker 1: see her comments back when she was selling a book
Speaker 1: around twenty and Tine twenty ten. But of course we
Speaker 1: know that she's going to be part of this group
Speaker 1: of people that just think it's all about Dutton. And
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second. But do you
Speaker 1: not find it amazing that all of the people who
Speaker 1: are paid to talk about politics for a living, who
Speaker 1: clearly preferred this government because this government was a refresh
Speaker 1: which means they've all started to have their new relationships
Speaker 1: and so often, and it doesn't matter, by the way,
Speaker 1: whether we're talking about generally speaking, business journalism, entertainment journalism,
Speaker 1: sports journalism, or in this case, political journalism, access to
Speaker 1: the people in power is vitally important. Why because quite
Speaker 1: often the media demands fresh, new, exclusive stories, and very
Speaker 1: rarely those stories are critical of the government. Instead their
Speaker 1: little bits of information from the government, or you're able
Speaker 1: to show look how powerful I am because I can
Speaker 1: pick up the phone and get a minister to turn
Speaker 1: up and talk to me, Which is why you get
Speaker 1: this scenario where rather than just being critical of a
Speaker 1: government that is on one knee, that is behind in
Speaker 1: multiple poles, that has failed on multiple fronts, they don't
Speaker 1: say it, Oh, it's all just a refresher, rebrand shot
Speaker 1: in the arm, no admission of any problems whatsoever. And
Speaker 1: also an example about like anything right and again I
Speaker 1: talk about politics. Our obsession is politics. But it's the
Speaker 1: same when a whole bunch of new people are brought
Speaker 1: in to talk about business, or a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: new people cover the courts, or a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: new people cover the entertainment industry. Is that when people
Speaker 1: who haven't been around for long enough, well, they don't
Speaker 1: remember the failures of the past, which in part would
Speaker 1: be perhaps the reason why there is so little response
Speaker 1: to Tony Burke being made the Home Affairs and Immigration Minister. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a bloke who was an immigration minister in
Speaker 1: the failed former Labor government. His performance as the migration
Speaker 1: minister back then was highlighted by the Liberal Party today
Speaker 1: on social media where six thousand, six and a half
Speaker 1: thousand illegal arrivals came in and eighty three boats. Those
Speaker 1: boats were not turned back. They ended up coming to
Speaker 1: the mainland, they ended up going into detention and after
Speaker 1: they went through a process they probably got released along
Speaker 1: with thousands of others by this government under temporary protection VISUS.
Speaker 1: Can someone somewhere please explain to me how the solution
Speaker 1: to the Home Affairs problem is to put back in
Speaker 1: charge of the blood bank the dracula who had already
Speaker 1: had his fangs into it. I don't understand now. Again,
Speaker 1: there are many people around in politics who have not
Speaker 1: been here for a New York minute, who have seen
Speaker 1: these things come and go. But where was this point
Speaker 1: being made? Again? Think about any underperforming minister from any
Speaker 1: government that you can think of, right team, read team blue,
Speaker 1: good guy, bad guy, men, women, whatever, senators, MPs. The
Speaker 1: idea that somebody who had failed in a portfolio then
Speaker 1: labor had lost government, Labour comes back to government and
Speaker 1: the same person who had failed once before gets another
Speaker 1: crack at it. Thankfully Andrew Hasty was not in the Parliament,
Speaker 1: but certainly remembers that this blow not all he's cracked
Speaker 1: up to me.
Speaker 6: This isn't about the national security or strengthening our border.
Speaker 6: In fact, Tony Burke when he was last Immigration Minister,
Speaker 6: let in about eighty three votes and more than six
Speaker 6: and a half thousand illegal arrivals, so he's not tough
Speaker 6: on boarders. This is about empowering Tony Burke, who is
Speaker 6: under immense pressure electorally. We know that there is a
Speaker 6: very strong Muslim vote in Western Sydney. They're very energized
Speaker 6: around the gaza issue and Tony Burke's under pressure and
Speaker 6: so this is about giving him a portfolio that has
Speaker 6: cachet with the migrant community and empowering him so that
Speaker 6: he can hold this seat.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Now, it's fine for the opposition to
Speaker 1: make that point, but do we have to wait till
Speaker 1: that time of the day for the people who have
Speaker 1: paid to talk about politics to make up to make
Speaker 1: up to make that point. Meantime, in the real world, now,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether you are sitting in your dream
Speaker 1: home on a farm, you've got your favorite dogs around you,
Speaker 1: you've got your feet up and you're nice and warm,
Speaker 1: or whether you're in a suburb in a house that
Speaker 1: is not your dream house, but it's good enough for
Speaker 1: you because you love it very much. So we are
Speaker 1: frightened about interest rates right now. Now Australians are very
Speaker 1: worried about what is going to happen in the next
Speaker 1: little while. When it comes to the reserve back Inflation
Speaker 1: is sitting at a stage where it is starting to
Speaker 1: go back up. If it keeps going up, they are
Speaker 1: going to put up interest rates. All of that is
Speaker 1: going to, of course be a huge problem. Now again,
Speaker 1: if the reason why we had to have all of
Speaker 1: the changes in and around the ministry was because obviously
Speaker 1: some people were underperforming, obviously others were breaking promises, well
Speaker 1: what about the scenario in and around the economy. Now,
Speaker 1: of course it would be madness to suggest that this
Speaker 1: Prime Minister would make anything as serious as an omission
Speaker 1: that they're not managing the economy. Well, but Jim Charmers
Speaker 1: is out and about trying to tell you that everything's
Speaker 1: okay when it comes to inflation, despite the fact that
Speaker 1: he and the Reserve Bank agreed it needs to be
Speaker 1: between two and three percent last month or sorry, I
Speaker 1: should say, in May. We'll get our numbers for June shortly.
Speaker 1: Last month in May it was four percent and it
Speaker 1: started to go back up. Yet he's out there telling everyone,
Speaker 1: don't worry, we're on top of inflation. The same budget
Speaker 1: that pumped billions of dollars in a slow, trickled fashion,
Speaker 1: but still billions of dollars back into the economy for
Speaker 1: people to spend, which wasn't going to affect you inflation. Still,
Speaker 1: trust me, because inflation, despite the fact that the evidence
Speaker 1: is it's going in the wrong direction. He just thinks
Speaker 1: he can magically will it in the opposite direction.
Speaker 7: So I'm confident that even though the inflation number that
Speaker 7: we expect to see on Wednesday, we expect inflation to
Speaker 7: have been persistent in our economy and the Dune court.
Speaker 7: But we are still confident that inflation and will continue
Speaker 7: to moderate after that.
Speaker 1: So is this him preparing us for it's going to
Speaker 1: go up again?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: Of course, if it goes up again, then the Reserve
Speaker 1: Bank is most likely going to do the only thing
Speaker 1: it can, which is to jump into another interest rate rise.
Speaker 1: And I think the thirteenth interest rate rise on this
Speaker 1: government's watch is going to be a political killer, but
Speaker 1: more importantly, it's going to be a financial killer for
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people. We learned last week it's
Speaker 1: about eight hundred thousand people that will move into mortgage stress,
Speaker 1: on top of the minions more who were already there
Speaker 1: mortgage stress to find as people literally in the scenario
Speaker 1: where they are paying too much when it comes to
Speaker 1: being able to live somewhere and there's not enough left
Speaker 1: over to pay for the rest of their time and
Speaker 1: it's not because they want to live fancy life. It's
Speaker 1: because there have been twelve interstrate rises since this government
Speaker 1: came to power. Oh but everything's fine and we're the
Speaker 1: most consistent government of all time. And the media turn
Speaker 1: around and basically give a version of the talking points back.
Speaker 1: Maybe you will pay any attention because the Olympics are
Speaker 1: on fed income. But another bit of data about how
Speaker 1: tough times are right now, and it is all directly
Speaker 1: linked to another problem that apparently this government was absolutely
Speaker 1: going to solve, well certainly dramatically solved, to the tune
Speaker 1: of two hundred and seventy five dollars by next year,
Speaker 1: and that is power prices. Now. As crippling as power
Speaker 1: prices are for every family in the country, they are
Speaker 1: crippling for business. Think about this about your local chicken shop,
Speaker 1: real est, that agent, whatever it is, If they've got
Speaker 1: the lights on, they're sucking in power. The bills that
Speaker 1: they have to pay are not you know, a few
Speaker 1: hundred or maybe a thousand dollars a quarter, they are
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. That's an awful lot of dumplings and
Speaker 1: somosas that you have to sell to be able to
Speaker 1: keep your head above water or obviously that was bread.
Speaker 1: But what about the hospitality industry. Well, we learned that
Speaker 1: the number of businesses that have just gone and could
Speaker 1: put in the past twelve months is surging compared to
Speaker 1: the previous year. This is not the responsibility of the
Speaker 1: former government, but the data about this government. The Australian
Speaker 1: hospitality and retail industries fail at record numbers in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Why because cost of living and the cost
Speaker 1: of power. Hospitality business has failed at the fastest rates
Speaker 1: on record in the twenty twenty four financial year as
Speaker 1: sawing food and energy prices and a pullback and consumer
Speaker 1: spending pushed cafes and restaurants to the wall. See you
Speaker 1: know this and I know this, but there's putting people
Speaker 1: inside government who don't quite understand that there's an actual
Speaker 1: restaurant on the other end of these things. It's not
Speaker 1: just magically food is grown inside your phone and then
Speaker 1: somebody brings it to your house. Let alone, if you
Speaker 1: decide not to go back to the office, I'm going
Speaker 1: to work from home for ever, that the same business
Speaker 1: that you rely for the coffee, the sausage roll or
Speaker 1: anything else to be available. The next time you do
Speaker 1: wander into work once a month, Well, guess what when
Speaker 1: people aren't going back to work, those businesses don't have
Speaker 1: enough income. They hit the wall. The businesses that are
Speaker 1: trying to desperately hold on know that most people will
Speaker 1: end up ordering their food through some sort of app
Speaker 1: that'll take a third of the price. While the cost
Speaker 1: of insurance keeps going up, the cost of power keeps
Speaker 1: going up, the cost of wages keeps going up. But remember,
Speaker 1: as I have said to you so many times, the
Speaker 1: whole economic project of the modern left Labor Party is
Speaker 1: that they will be able to achieve a permanent electoral
Speaker 1: majority that does not require small business that is contemptuous
Speaker 1: of business that has a life outside of government. Now,
Speaker 1: sure they need you for the company tax, and they'll
Speaker 1: take that break, but remember the single biggest source of
Speaker 1: income for the federal government is not the GST, is
Speaker 1: not company tax, but is the pay as you go
Speaker 1: pay packets of each and every Australian worker. The project
Speaker 1: that we've seen play out in Victoria and in Queensland,
Speaker 1: Western Australia and other places where labor has been in
Speaker 1: power for so long is that they hire so many
Speaker 1: public servants that you are either dependent on the government
Speaker 1: because you work for the government, they increase so much
Speaker 1: welfare or handout money that they end up with a
Speaker 1: scenario where they want you to be dependent on the
Speaker 1: government to help supplement your wage, or if you are
Speaker 1: in business, they want government to be the biggest client.
Speaker 1: So therefore you will not upset the apple cart. The
Speaker 1: people who live outside of that system, small business, the
Speaker 1: very people who are hitting the wall at record numbers.
Speaker 1: But because most of the people who talk about politics
Speaker 1: are part of this over reliance and inter reliance on government,
Speaker 1: they don't pay attention to it. We'll just order from
Speaker 1: another option on the phone where that app will take
Speaker 1: up to a third of their moneies. Back to the
Speaker 1: quotes here again. After those hospitality rates and record numbers
Speaker 1: of shutdowns so far this year, the new data from
Speaker 1: the Australian Securities and Investment Commission shows that accommodation and
Speaker 1: food services insolvency appointments rose faster than any other sector
Speaker 1: in the past twelve months. The number of collapses had
Speaker 1: skyrocketed by fifty percent to sixteen hundred and sixty seven,
Speaker 1: competed to its previous high of about one thousand, the
Speaker 1: year before retail trade appointments, that being people who had
Speaker 1: ended up going to the wall. Insolvencies and administrators that
Speaker 1: had surged by forty two percent. If all the numbers
Speaker 1: and all the words are boring to you, here's the
Speaker 1: graph this year eleven and a bit thousand, the previous
Speaker 1: year when costant living crisis was still an issue, seven
Speaker 1: almost eight thousand. These are good, decent people who went
Speaker 1: all in on their business and their businesses hit the wall.
Speaker 1: This government could not care less. Meantime, another indiscy here
Speaker 1: about how people are doing it tough. The people who
Speaker 1: are just completely ignored by this government couldn't care less
Speaker 1: because again, you've got to work for the government, or
Speaker 1: you've got to be dependent on the government, or your
Speaker 1: client's got to be the government. And then we can
Speaker 1: gave about sixty seventy percent of the vote and it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what anyone else says. The machine much is on.
Speaker 1: What about people with cars? Numbers out today about the
Speaker 1: number of people who are not making their car repayments.
Speaker 1: If you're like enough to pay your car off, you're
Speaker 1: driving around in an old one, well good luck to you.
Speaker 1: But there are plenty of people who for a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of ways and different finance options they're trying to
Speaker 1: pay one off and car repositions. Guess what they have
Speaker 1: surged another sign of just how bad things are, so
Speaker 1: they can give themselves a pat on the back and
Speaker 1: a gold star and a little tickle on the tummy
Speaker 1: from the media. The reality in the community is we
Speaker 1: don't buy the bs that comes out of these people.
Speaker 1: The automotive auction house Pickles has described a recent spike
Speaker 1: in a supply of resess vehicles as significant thirteen percent
Speaker 1: up in the number of repossessed cars in the past
Speaker 1: six months, eleven over the past three months. They attribute
Speaker 1: this to the rise of cost of living pressures and
Speaker 1: a falling of used car prices which have hindered the
Speaker 1: ability of vehicle owners to refinance their fast appreciating assets.
Speaker 1: Automotive arrearsed data show from the banking sector that Australians
Speaker 1: are falling behind on their car payments. People who have
Speaker 1: not paid one for three months or ninety days is
Speaker 1: now twice as many as it was a year ago,
Speaker 1: according to the details that are coming out of Westpac
Speaker 1: and then in the West Australian thousands of people in
Speaker 1: Western Australia have moved back with their parents. Why cost
Speaker 1: of living. But this government's amazing, right, give us another
Speaker 1: three years. We're fantastic. We can be arrogant because the
Speaker 1: teals will save us. We've got a teal in Western Australia.
Speaker 1: Feel free to make a change, send a message. Meantime,
Speaker 1: a number of people are cutting back on how much
Speaker 1: they're spending on a wedding. I don't think weddings are
Speaker 1: probably taken up too much of too many people's wedding
Speaker 1: this weekend on my wedding was perfect, but you get
Speaker 1: my point. Lots of people spend too much on this stuff.
Speaker 1: But it cost living means you it's pulling back. Even
Speaker 1: the ABC reporting on the number of people who are
Speaker 1: making and mending their own clothes. Why because apparently the
Speaker 1: greatest government of all time ain't the greatest government of
Speaker 1: all time. But the people who are the guardians of
Speaker 1: the political galaxy, well, they of course believe the single
Speaker 1: problem here is no one in the government. It's Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton chief amongst them, of course, has lefty Laura Tingle there,
Speaker 1: who remember any attack on her is unhelpful. As she
Speaker 1: said to her or unhelpful to the ABC. Well, too bad,
Speaker 1: We've got the tape. And you think this is a
Speaker 1: racist country, We are a racist campule.
Speaker 8: Its face that we always have been, and is very
Speaker 8: depressing to give a license like that. I find profoundly
Speaker 8: depressing and a terrible prospect for the next election.
Speaker 1: Now, who knows no doubt you will inevitably get another
Speaker 1: reward because people like me criticized her. Who cares right,
Speaker 1: But perhaps the next one will be a Goldwalkley because
Speaker 1: she will secretly be able to give evidence to the
Speaker 1: nonsense that she said again when trying to spread fear
Speaker 1: around Peter Dutton that apparently evil white people would turn
Speaker 1: on people who don't look like them the next time
Speaker 1: they're bidding for a house. Of course, utter garbage, but
Speaker 1: she said it anyway.
Speaker 8: For a major politicality, that must be saying, as NICKI says,
Speaker 8: you know, everything that's going wrong in this country is
Speaker 8: because of migrants. And you know I had sudden flash
Speaker 8: of people turning up to try to rent a property
Speaker 8: or at an auction, and they look a bit different
Speaker 8: whatever you define different as that basically he has given
Speaker 8: them license to be abused.
Speaker 1: Rubbish bs crap, but despite that experience, of course, she
Speaker 1: ain't for changing, she ain't for turning, and the ecosystem
Speaker 1: that props her up as one of the great daians
Speaker 1: of power on the left of Australian politics, well, she
Speaker 1: just keeps on going. She sat down with another hardcore
Speaker 1: lefty who replaced a previous hardcore lefty on Radio National
Speaker 1: listened to by hardcore lefties, to yet again talk about
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton despite everything that I just showed you, data
Speaker 1: that I just showed you about how the country's going
Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. She sat down and she had
Speaker 1: a chat with the blog hosting the late night life
Speaker 1: program on Radio National. Don't worry, most of the country
Speaker 1: doesn't listen to it either, and she sarcastically accused the
Speaker 1: opposition leader of plugging nuclear power that offers you a
Speaker 1: future unlike those terrible renewables that the Labour government is offering.
Speaker 1: The host, then healthy reminded Tingle that listeners, many young
Speaker 1: young'ins wouldn't have a clue about the nuclear disasters of Chernobyl.
Speaker 1: So that's a problem, yeah, Chernobyl. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton's the problem, because nuclear power, which is by
Speaker 1: the way, available in what's that Paris, and they're not
Speaker 1: canceling the Olympic Games. It's available in Los Angeles where
Speaker 1: the next Olympic Games. Again, Tingle went on accusing Dunton
Speaker 1: of using language that's similar to the un Republican presidential
Speaker 1: nominee Donald Trump Prize. Of course, the media that is
Speaker 1: doing their part for the left wing cause, good weekend
Speaker 1: on the weekend where this was their puff pace and
Speaker 1: again little tickle on the tummy to the tills, because
Speaker 1: we've got to get back into that media cycle now,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that, of course they've had virtually no
Speaker 1: impact on Australian politics apart from yes, denying the Liberal
Speaker 1: Party and opportunity to be statistically a chance of what's
Speaker 1: happening at the next election. Oh but you know, going
Speaker 1: into politics, that's taught me I have more courage than
Speaker 1: I thought. Oh the courage it takes to get everyone
Speaker 1: giving you the preferences and then all of the media
Speaker 1: not criticizing you, no matter how badly your performance ever
Speaker 1: happens to be, must be terrible. How old made giggling
Speaker 1: Stephen Miles, the Premier of Queensland. Now this one's been
Speaker 1: on the back burner for a while. But you remember when,
Speaker 1: just after he announced the brand new police Commissioner he
Speaker 1: decided to go and tour the parts of queens And
Speaker 1: that are heavily affected by youth crime. Well, as we
Speaker 1: pointed out the time, there was a particularly offensive moment
Speaker 1: when not one but two private jets paid for by
Speaker 1: the taxpayer, landed in the same place for the same announcement,
Speaker 1: because apparently they couldn't all work out that they could
Speaker 1: all fit on one jet. No, no, that wasn't allowable. We
Speaker 1: found out that, by the way, in the past couple
Speaker 1: of days about exactly how much this nonsense cost. One
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy thousand dollars is what the Queen's Land
Speaker 1: taxpayer was paying for not one but two private jets,
Speaker 1: one to take the Premier, one to take the police commissioner.
Speaker 1: They couldn't possibly fly on the same plane. When pushed
Speaker 1: on it last week, Steven Miles, well, of course he
Speaker 1: had an excuse for that, didn't he.
Speaker 5: As I have explained to the Member for Broadwater, my
Speaker 5: itinerary was booked sometime earlier when it was clear that
Speaker 5: the Police Commissioner was to be appointed, just prior to
Speaker 5: my travel. I asked him to accompany me and he
Speaker 5: made his own travel arrangements.
Speaker 1: Again, the wastefulness of government. It's no one's job to
Speaker 1: turn around and say, okay, there are six spots. Okay, Premier,
Speaker 1: we need one for you, Police commissioner, one for you,
Speaker 1: all right, there's four others on no note, it's Premiere
Speaker 1: plus everyone, and mate, can you just get yourself there?
Speaker 1: Why not go on the same plane. Again, the common
Speaker 1: sense that fails on things like that extends to bigger
Speaker 1: and more complicated public policy like actually dealing with you
Speaker 1: crime Queensland. Come on, you got a chance. I have
Speaker 1: deep faith in you. But I was, of course, so
Speaker 1: to put disappointed last time. We'll see what happens when
Speaker 1: voting happens at the end of October. Plenty more between
Speaker 1: now and then when it comes to the queens and election.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mentioned the Princess Leia bikini. Now, as
Speaker 1: we know, it's sort of super nerd time at the moment,
Speaker 1: with Dead Evil and Wolverine number one in the box
Speaker 1: office all over the world, comic cons just come. A
Speaker 1: bloke paid one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars for
Speaker 1: the as worn Bikini when Princess Layer was captured by
Speaker 1: Jab of the Hut. Yes, I do understand the resemblance.
Speaker 1: But I've grown a bid since then. One hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars. Okay, that's expensive cosplay. Now let's
Speaker 1: talk here about the latest when it comes to Trump
Speaker 1: and Harris. Now, she's raised a lot of money, sure,
Speaker 1: huge amount of money, and it does show enthusiasm. Basically,
Speaker 1: I was looking at some data about this before. Remember
Speaker 1: about Biden. Democrats were going to vote for them, but
Speaker 1: they won't particularly enthusiastic about him. Well, now basically the
Speaker 1: same amount of people who are going to vote Democrat
Speaker 1: are enthusiastic about the Democrat. But thankfully, the latest numbers
Speaker 1: show us that the number of people wanting to vote
Speaker 1: for Trump is basically as high as it's ever been.
Speaker 1: It's just the comparison the Democrats. It's now tighter, but
Speaker 1: the enthusiasm gap is still higher than where the Democrats are.
Speaker 1: But with this more than two hundred million American dollars
Speaker 1: which have been raised by the Harris campaign in a week,
Speaker 1: they're spending it on ads like this, and I've got
Speaker 1: to say I'm not entirely sure. This is an ad
Speaker 1: for somebody who's running for president, or it's like an
Speaker 1: ad in a movie about someone running for president. Production
Speaker 1: values are fantastic, but almost too good.
Speaker 9: In the election, we each face a question what kind
Speaker 9: of country do we want to live in? There are
Speaker 9: some people who think we should be a country of chaos,
Speaker 9: of fear, of hate, but us we choose something different.
Speaker 1: We choose freedom, unless, of course, you don't want to
Speaker 1: wear your mask any want your kid to be able
Speaker 1: to go to school and not have to sit in
Speaker 1: a tent. Or of course, those people who currently don't
Speaker 1: have freedom because they're still in jail after Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: as prosecutors sent them to jail in California for crimes
Speaker 1: like drug possession, which ironic because of course marijuana is
Speaker 1: now legal in that state. But you know, minor details.
Speaker 1: But for its part, the Trump campaign is finding its
Speaker 1: fate on how to respond now obviously the first week
Speaker 1: and all of the news and all the rest of
Speaker 1: it and all of the excitement, but still fundamentally in
Speaker 1: this race, according to all of the polls, that we
Speaker 1: have to this moment, all of the betting that we
Speaker 1: have to this moment. All of the swing state data
Speaker 1: to this moment is that Trump is still winning. He's
Speaker 1: winning by small margins in some areas, by the same
Speaker 1: big margins in other areas. Currently in the electoral college,
Speaker 1: remember it needs two hundred and seventy votes to be
Speaker 1: the president. The current average is that he's over three hundred,
Speaker 1: which is basically the same margin that Biden had over
Speaker 1: Trump four years ago. So Trump is still winning. Harris
Speaker 1: is closer, but fundamentally more people agree with Trump on
Speaker 1: the economy and on immigration, and messages like this from
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign are seeking to drive it home.
Speaker 9: I am a part of latter.
Speaker 3: I'm finalser. You're considered the most liberally United States senator.
Speaker 10: Well, actually, the non partisan gov Track has rated you
Speaker 10: as the most liberal senator.
Speaker 3: You have any plans to visit the border. We are
Speaker 3: going to the border.
Speaker 9: We've been to the border.
Speaker 3: You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been
Speaker 3: to Europe.
Speaker 9: It's actually wrong and backward to think that more police
Speaker 9: officers will create more safety.
Speaker 3: We get rid of money now.
Speaker 9: Convicted in prison like the Boston Marathon bomber on death row,
Speaker 9: people who are convicted of sexual ASSAULTA should be able
Speaker 9: to vote.
Speaker 3: I think we should have that conversation.
Speaker 1: And of course she can be remade sort of you know,
Speaker 1: a bumber an address and sort of you know, hip Hillary,
Speaker 1: and she might be able to shape shift. And she'll
Speaker 1: probably never sit down for an interview or do a
Speaker 1: press conference where anyone's going to turn around and say, I, actually,
Speaker 1: so what is your actual position on this, that and
Speaker 1: the other. But the fundamentals right now, towards the end
Speaker 1: of July, after a week of all the noise, all
Speaker 1: the money, all the change, Trump is still winning, will he?
Speaker 1: We'll all find out together quick break back with more
Speaker 1: we need to talk about here on Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Let's get into a great conversation. Been looking forward to
Speaker 1: this one all day. The wonderful Sam Crosby joining me
Speaker 1: in the man cave right now, and the wonderful Senator
Speaker 1: Matt Canavan as well. We love these chatel On Monday night,
Speaker 1: he's joining us, of course from a beautiful North Queensland.
Speaker 1: So lads, it's all it's all better now, like the
Speaker 1: government's fine poles will go back. There was no sacking
Speaker 1: of anyone the Prime Minister. When asked why was Giles
Speaker 1: moved or clear Onneil because there was a reshuffle, was
Speaker 1: his answer. Sam, do you feel like you know there's
Speaker 1: been a complete revolution?
Speaker 11: How many times have I been on this show? And
Speaker 11: how do you saying we need a reshuffle, We've got
Speaker 11: to have a reshuffle. And now we have a reshuffle, Sack,
Speaker 11: we now have a reshuffle. Can you say, why are
Speaker 11: we having a reshuffle? I'd just say normal people don't care, right,
Speaker 11: So of course I don't care. So your sense of
Speaker 11: political change, right, Like, I mean, if you're doing it
Speaker 11: under the cover of the Olympics, you kind of don't
Speaker 11: want people to notice. Look, I think the immigration, as
Speaker 11: we've talked about many times on this show, immigration become
Speaker 11: this weeping sow for labor that they needed to quarter ze.
Speaker 11: They needed to do something to stop the bad news
Speaker 11: stories and move on. Tony Burke, I think we'll do that, genuinely,
Speaker 11: I think we'll do that. I'm sure Matt's got a
Speaker 11: different view, and I'm sure you've got a different view
Speaker 11: about his handling of industrial relations within labor. He is
Speaker 11: seen as an absolute success on this You know, every.
Speaker 1: One unions everything they want, but not just him.
Speaker 11: Now, but where's Where's sure, where's where is it? Where
Speaker 11: are the employers saying that he was an abject failure?
Speaker 11: Don't disagree, you know, genuinely there was a very short
Speaker 11: lived scare campaign about something or another that then went
Speaker 11: nowhere as soon as they saw the detail of the bill.
Speaker 11: He dominates the House in a way that very few
Speaker 11: other people can. My pick is you're going to see
Speaker 11: this immigration issue in the next six months, right around
Speaker 11: the time of the next election, completely fade from from
Speaker 11: the headlines.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, as we know, Matt, there was some
Speaker 1: data around that. Apparently the actual number of people that
Speaker 1: have been released in the end about five hundred. All
Speaker 1: of that will of course be backfilled to the previous
Speaker 1: two ministers. But the thing I understand message discipline, and
Speaker 1: I understand governments having a level of self confidence and
Speaker 1: never admitting mistake all the rest of it. But we're
Speaker 1: living in fantasyland, aren't we. When if the reason these
Speaker 1: people had to be moved was because there's a reshuffle,
Speaker 1: why did the Attorney General keep in their position, why
Speaker 1: did the ndies minister get me? The whole point was
Speaker 1: they were underperforming and they had to get moved. Now,
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister always comes up with a little dance
Speaker 1: series of words to make it seem like, you know,
Speaker 1: going backwards is going forwards. But if this was an
Speaker 1: area that was hurting, feel free to admit that you
Speaker 1: were getting it wrong.
Speaker 10: Well, I think what people see out on the ground
Speaker 10: is that anthe Albanezi is applying different rules to his ministers,
Speaker 10: to politicians than would apply to them in the real world.
Speaker 10: In the real world, if someone in their job in
Speaker 10: the senior position presided over the kind of stuff up
Speaker 10: we saw last year where hundreds of more than one
Speaker 10: hundred criminals were released onto our streets around extra about
Speaker 10: thirty crimes were committed by those criminals after they were
Speaker 10: unncessarily released.
Speaker 3: If that din'd happen in the real world, people would
Speaker 3: lose their jobs.
Speaker 10: They would lose their jobs, and they know that they
Speaker 10: know they'd be held accountable the workplace. At the very minimum,
Speaker 10: they'd be demoted or miss out in bonuses. They know
Speaker 10: that they know going to work they're under that pressure.
Speaker 10: Are just basic everyday jobs in this country. Yet our
Speaker 10: politicians seem to be held to a totally different standard
Speaker 10: when incompetence actually leads to promotion, because that's what.
Speaker 1: Clara Nil's got.
Speaker 10: She has been promoted, after presiding over this monumental stuff
Speaker 10: up into a more scene, near and important portfolio, and
Speaker 10: that just aggers the Jesus out of people, because, as
Speaker 10: I say, they don't get this sort of free kicks
Speaker 10: that our politicians get. And you would expect our nation's
Speaker 10: prime minister to apply the same type of rules to
Speaker 10: his own ministries that would apply to all Australians working
Speaker 10: out there in everyday life.
Speaker 3: And it really angers people.
Speaker 10: And it's a very poor example that's been set by
Speaker 10: a prime minister that apparently there's nothing you can do
Speaker 10: in his ministry would cause you to face sanction for
Speaker 10: poor performance.
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at the topics on the board today.
Speaker 1: What are we going to do? Where are we going
Speaker 1: to talk about?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: The Barnaby Joyce thing is such a beat up today, right,
Speaker 1: like a spectacular, over the top, intentional beat up. Right,
Speaker 1: But if I don't talk about it, see the talking
Speaker 1: about it. Clearly, I've talked about sort of the emotional
Speaker 1: rhetoric and increasingly violent rhetoric that was in and around
Speaker 1: American politics, but our politics is different. That said, we
Speaker 1: should talk about it for that very reason I'm not
Speaker 1: going to play you all of the stuff, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that it's all there to be seen. Right, you
Speaker 1: saw what was said, which was a poor metaphor, which
Speaker 1: was about voting, not about shooting, not about killing, but
Speaker 1: about voting. He then apologized, Oh, but the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: was indignant and this was the story of the day
Speaker 1: and you know all the Karens on the internet going crazy. Right, So, Sam,
Speaker 1: is this the single greatest reason why Barnaby Jews should
Speaker 1: be scrubbed from the political record here? Because again, should
Speaker 1: you said it? No, But when you apologize, and if
Speaker 1: you apologize quickly and it was a poor metaphor, then
Speaker 1: I'm not really going to set my hair on fire
Speaker 1: for four days about it.
Speaker 11: Sure, I realized the forum that I'm in, and you know,
Speaker 11: I'm very reluctant to go Barnaby voice on poor Murray life.
Speaker 11: But for heaven's sakes, this is a week after the
Speaker 11: former president of the United States was shot and you're
Speaker 11: using a gun metaphor at the best of times, but
Speaker 11: a protracted gun metaphor where we're talking about loading a
Speaker 11: magazine of Sure, sure, sure to use your paper on
Speaker 11: the ballot, but not hillpe hold on, hold on, he's
Speaker 11: talking about a minister who needs a protection because of
Speaker 11: the large number of verified threats that he and his
Speaker 11: family get.
Speaker 1: But right, Peter didn't have these things, and I didn't
Speaker 1: see sort of a great mercy rule being played about
Speaker 1: a new tone, the new tone of hollow. So look,
Speaker 1: is it a shocker. Yes, But when you say sorry, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just start thinking so I completely disagree. So you
Speaker 1: say that's if I don't say that's it. I think
Speaker 1: he needs to be I think you should be sacked.
Speaker 11: The question protracted, probably be a little bit attracted with him.
Speaker 1: That that's it off from the shadow ministry. Peter must
Speaker 1: get rid of him pretty much. It isn't getting rid
Speaker 1: of also a metaphor for killing people.
Speaker 3: Don't get rid of Clara O'Neil. You don't get rid
Speaker 3: of Clara O'Neil, actually stuffing enough.
Speaker 11: If anyone in labor had said anything similarly like this
Speaker 11: about Peter Dutton at any stage, I would be sitting
Speaker 11: here saying, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: And that shows the difference.
Speaker 10: That shows the difference shows a key difference here that
Speaker 10: you people in the left side of politics often seem
Speaker 10: to get more upset about what people say than what
Speaker 10: they do. I mean, Clara O'Neill presided over one of
Speaker 10: the biggest ministerial stuff ups in this nation's history and
Speaker 10: doesn't get touched. And then I don't see Sam calling
Speaker 10: for a sacking. But someone says something in the heat
Speaker 10: of the moment that is wrong and wasn't the right
Speaker 10: thing to say.
Speaker 3: He's Baby's admitted that, and yes they should get sacked
Speaker 3: for saying something. It's it's saying something.
Speaker 10: And I mean the other question of here to Sam
Speaker 10: and to the to the Prime Minister is where was
Speaker 10: the outrage then about Joe Biden, I mean a month
Speaker 10: ago saying that he wanted to put Trumps in the
Speaker 10: bulls eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, I mean he should he and I.
Speaker 10: I was not critical of Joe Biden for that because
Speaker 10: it was clearly a metaphor. Clearly a metaphor and again
Speaker 10: none wise one. But in no way is he responsible
Speaker 10: for what happened. It's it's let's just let's just tone
Speaker 10: this down right. The PM collage, your question was totally
Speaker 10: over the top.
Speaker 11: To answer your question at the time, I didn't say
Speaker 11: anything because I thought it was, you know, part of
Speaker 11: the political cut.
Speaker 1: And thrust if you like.
Speaker 11: Subsequently to Donald Trump being shot, I absolutely did say
Speaker 11: that was too far and he shouldn't have said it.
Speaker 3: Do you think stand before you think he should stand
Speaker 3: down over it?
Speaker 1: Well, that's the question.
Speaker 10: The question is not holland hold the questions be appropriate
Speaker 10: sanction for it if he if he's you're saying that
Speaker 10: he should lose his job.
Speaker 1: If he said that, now I would say yes, but
Speaker 1: he's not. Well, well they sort of push him out
Speaker 1: the way anyway.
Speaker 10: But in particularly double stand titles, I'm saying, I'm happy
Speaker 10: to apply an equal standard.
Speaker 3: I'm not calling for.
Speaker 10: Joe Biden to be sacked over it, and I'm not done.
Speaker 10: I don't think bunab we should lose his job over
Speaker 10: to either it's and also just a.
Speaker 3: Poor form of words. Let's move on, he said sorry,
Speaker 3: Let's move on, Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: And it is that thing where you know it is
Speaker 1: a contest. It is it is a contact sport verbally
Speaker 1: speaking right, and yes, sometimes people will will go too
Speaker 1: far in making a point. My issue is always right,
Speaker 1: how fast and how genuine is an apology? Right? Like
Speaker 1: I've got my issues in there around jd Vance and
Speaker 1: the cat lady stuff about you knowe, just if you're
Speaker 1: going to say sorry, say it nice, clean, quick and
Speaker 1: loud at the start. Right in said no, he's going
Speaker 1: to double down, right, So we'll see whether there's a
Speaker 1: consequence to all of that. But I find nine times
Speaker 1: out of ten that it's okay to apologize. And I
Speaker 1: live on this sliding scale. We're not everything equals you know,
Speaker 1: not everything equals life in jail. Sometimes it's just an
Speaker 1: awkward day, a slightly embarrassing day, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of take your medicine sort of stuff. But you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see where it all lands anyway. QUI break'll talk
Speaker 1: about the State's and a whole lot more next with
Speaker 1: these boys, because I think they will thoroughly agree that
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is amazing. Thanks very much for watching. Let's
Speaker 1: talk American politics now with two blokes who are just
Speaker 1: as invested in it. But we all know Australia's most
Speaker 1: awesome place ever. But these two big blokes have got
Speaker 1: plenty to say about it, Matt Canavan and Sam Crosby. Matt,
Speaker 1: I'm going to start with you, okay, Kamala Harris, basically,
Speaker 1: whatever was holding back the money for Biden. It's surging, right,
Speaker 1: a couple hundred million dollars, But we're now sort of
Speaker 1: through a phase where we didn't know what was happening
Speaker 1: with the polls. There's enough polling to suggest that, of
Speaker 1: course she's replaced much of the deficit of Biden, but
Speaker 1: she hasn't overtaken Trump the in the swing states and
Speaker 1: on the key issues. As a person who wants Trump
Speaker 1: up and over the top, how do you feel a
Speaker 1: week into this, Well, look, it's probably.
Speaker 3: A bit early to say.
Speaker 10: Obviously, these types of changes usually do involve a little
Speaker 10: bit of reinflating of enthusiasm, especially among a party's base,
Speaker 10: because it's they're new and they're different, and they can
Speaker 10: be package maps and gives it. It's like a new
Speaker 10: football season, right. You always think the new team your
Speaker 10: team's got is going to win it this year, and
Speaker 10: they're going to do it, and the Times will win.
Speaker 10: All those hopes go out the window. So I think
Speaker 10: the fundamental problem for the Democrats here is the Ross
Speaker 10: belt states. That's where the selection comes down to. And
Speaker 10: you look at the electoral map, it all comes down
Speaker 10: to states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, although that's pretty
Speaker 10: much in the red column now. So the question is
Speaker 10: does a relatively left wing or the most left wing
Speaker 10: in some measures, a former senator from California, from San Francisco,
Speaker 10: be that as it may help the Democrats in those states.
Speaker 10: I don't know, We'll She'll have to pull off an
Speaker 10: amazing level of flexibility that we're not even seeing in
Speaker 10: the gymnastics at the Olympics to straddle San Francisco to
Speaker 10: all the way to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, it's this thing where I mean,
Speaker 1: part of your studies of recent time is again is
Speaker 1: a full Bright scholarship. I had to spend plenty of
Speaker 1: time in the United States. But of course it's like
Speaker 1: any country. It's many countries within countries, right, And as
Speaker 1: Matt says, you know, the top right hand corner does
Speaker 1: not automatically believe what the bottom right hand corner and
Speaker 1: all of that in between. Right. But at this election,
Speaker 1: we've got a scenario where a state like Nevada, huge
Speaker 1: Union state, is kind of in the Trump column. Right.
Speaker 1: So there are a few things that are surprising to
Speaker 1: this point, regardless of whether it was Biden or Harris.
Speaker 1: And sure, I get it, there's the relief that you've
Speaker 1: got somebody to fight. You've got a boxer in the fight.
Speaker 1: But what's your sense of okay after the first week
Speaker 1: in the Yay.
Speaker 11: Where Harris is Well, Look, the polls consistently said that
Speaker 11: seventy five percent of people just wanted someone new, fresh, younger,
Speaker 11: They didn't want to repeat of the last election. This
Speaker 11: is giving them that and so yep, you're seeing an
Speaker 11: increase in her numbers. So you know, let's see. I
Speaker 11: do think Matt's analysis, I think is absolutely spot on.
Speaker 11: This does come down to that Russ belt, those three states,
Speaker 11: you know, Nevada, Arizona. Yeah, they're under a big question mark,
Speaker 11: but they're also small. You can you can either side
Speaker 11: can absolutely win without holding those correct you know, I
Speaker 11: think genuinely the way it will come down to is Pennsylvania.
Speaker 11: Whoever wins Philly will win, will win the presidency.
Speaker 1: Well, which is why potentially the governor of Pennsylvania is
Speaker 1: being talked about as her vice president. So pick and
Speaker 1: that would help.
Speaker 11: So that's Josh Spire so very vice presidential picks matter
Speaker 11: very little in the scheme of things, but.
Speaker 1: You should be able to win your own stake. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 11: And that's that's one of the very few areas which
Speaker 11: you know why putting JD. Vance on was an interesting
Speaker 11: and I think it really will see if it was
Speaker 11: confident nor overconfident. Move Ohio is voting Republican, but it
Speaker 11: helps lock it in sure, But that is in the bag.
Speaker 11: The question is does a one year governor in Joshapiro
Speaker 11: carry a state with it. I mean, he's got numbers
Speaker 11: that are unheard of, the sixty five thirty five favorabilities,
Speaker 11: it's unheard of to have someone that popular. Let's see
Speaker 11: if he does actually get it. Mark Kelly's the other
Speaker 11: one from Arizona Correck, you know. And I think it
Speaker 11: would be cool to have a former fighter pilot and
Speaker 11: former astronaut as a vice president.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 1: Well I don't disagree, but let's get to the dvance
Speaker 1: of it all. I've got only ninety seconds. But Matt,
Speaker 1: I sit here and look, I get all of the
Speaker 1: upside of J. D. Vans and what he said in
Speaker 1: his past, in his back history, and he's very sort
Speaker 1: of you know, I get what is awesome about him.
Speaker 1: But the crazy cat lady stuff, which yes, there's a context,
Speaker 1: and all the rest of her, does it like, is
Speaker 1: it real as a reason why people would think twice
Speaker 1: or the reality is if you've already said you for
Speaker 1: Trump by now, it doesn't matter who's with him.
Speaker 10: Well, look, I mean I think it was a silly
Speaker 10: thing to say, and he should apologize for it.
Speaker 3: You probably shouldn't.
Speaker 10: You shouldn't you shouldn't have talked about people like that
Speaker 10: as other ways of make these points. Look, I think
Speaker 10: I agree with what Sam just said. I don't think
Speaker 10: vice presidents make that much matter of difference. I mean,
Speaker 10: look how they characterize Mike Pence back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 10: They accused him of all sorts of things. It didn't
Speaker 10: make much difference, and I don't think it probably will either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, what is fascinating because again I
Speaker 1: think you're seeing the media trying to use all the
Speaker 1: tricks they can to sell the narrative of how amazing's Harris.
Speaker 1: Let's wait for the poll, which is what is the
Speaker 1: number one issue. If it's immigration, Trump wins. If it's abortion,
Speaker 1: Harris wins. If it's the economy, Trump wins. Anything else
Speaker 1: we'll find out, But right now i'd imagine those two
Speaker 1: that are good for Trump are still in newspavor and
Speaker 1: still priorities. Thank you guys to appreciate it. We'll talk
Speaker 1: again this time next week and plenty more to talk
Speaker 1: about on the show tomorrow night. You can as always
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Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone in Newcastle. We had a spectacular
Speaker 1: time and stand by for the late debate right now.