WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 29 July

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying in Center. This is Paul Murray live.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Any parent who's had the chance to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>see their kids get married, you know the pride that

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<v Speaker 1>has inside you. I now understand why my mother was

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<v Speaker 1>a little upset when I decided to go off on

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<v Speaker 1>a lope on the other side of the world. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>two of our favorite people, especially a young lady by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Madison Thorne, who has been the EP

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<v Speaker 1>of this program for a long time. She got married

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<v Speaker 1>on the weekend and my little girls were her flower girls.

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<v Speaker 1>The pride, the tears that I had when they're just

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<v Speaker 1>the flower girls. Wait till forty years time, right, forty

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<v Speaker 1>years time, when they it's their moment. But it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats Nomadic Congrats Toadom and al Jason photos a little

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<v Speaker 1>later in the week now tonight. Lots to get to,

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<v Speaker 1>including yes, the shuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who will not fail this time despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they failed last time. I'll show you the data.

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<v Speaker 1>White Trump is still winning the presidential race, despite the hype,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the money, and speaking of what about the bloke

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<v Speaker 1>who's spent like more than one hundred thousand dollars buying

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<v Speaker 1>Princess Leia's bikini. It's been a while since it was

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<v Speaker 1>worn nineteen eighty three, but still he's decided to purchase

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<v Speaker 1>it for a lot of money. A little bit creepy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know it's winter, but it's really freezing at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, isn't it. I don't know about you, but

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<v Speaker 1>as you've seen sort of, you know, most of us

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<v Speaker 1>are walking around with slightly sore throats or feel it

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<v Speaker 1>just like that extra jumper all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't matter, like when I was in Queensland

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<v Speaker 1>not that long ago, freezing Victoria of course as always cold,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tazzy, you name it cold everywhere, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>we learned today that there is an eastern frigid cold snap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to make things even worse for places like Brisbane,

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<v Speaker 1>where the expectation is that their ten year weather records

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<v Speaker 1>and temperatures are going to go Canber as always this

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<v Speaker 1>timing year, but more and longer periods of time under freezing.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we have a weather channel here, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>helpful to find out why is it so cold this winter?

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday the apparent temperature stayed below seven degrees all day

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<v Speaker 2>in Sydney, and it looks like a similar thing today

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<v Speaker 2>if you factor in these cold west to southwesterly winds

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to a low pressure cell that's just off the

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales coastline at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But poor Kenny, Kenny, heatly go outside and prove that

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<v Speaker 1>it's cold. Poor bugger doing the reporting again. When does

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<v Speaker 1>this get better? Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday, Thursday look okay, still a little bit blustery and

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<v Speaker 2>cool in Sydney, but not as bad as what we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing yesterday and today in this weekend a bit cloudy,

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<v Speaker 2>so the cloud trapping at a bit of heat at night,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping those minimum temperatures higher and daytime temperatures up into

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<v Speaker 2>the high scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Why start with the weather when we can all look

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<v Speaker 1>outside and me we'll know it's cold. Because it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder, whatever heater that you have, make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>there are blankets that are as far away from them

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. If you've got one of those old school

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<v Speaker 1>bar heaters, you probably should replace it by now. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got one of them, please please please make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that there is nothing If you fell asleep in

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<v Speaker 1>the chair watching Telly, or if you've got it close

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<v Speaker 1>to the bed, Please make sure nothing is in contact

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<v Speaker 1>with the heater. On normal years where there's not huge

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<v Speaker 1>spikes in the number of lives that are lost during bushfires,

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<v Speaker 1>there are more people who lose their lives and their

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<v Speaker 1>homes during these winter periods of time. So I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to be around, Your family needs you

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<v Speaker 1>to be around. So please be safe with the heaters

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<v Speaker 1>that are around you because it is very cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, today the major focus was the new version

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest government of all time, the reshuffle, because

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<v Speaker 1>two people decided to hang up their boots. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>more than two changes that, of course were made, and

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<v Speaker 1>we know that the actual story here was that Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Giles and Clara O'Neil, because of their hopeless handling of

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<v Speaker 1>the immigration and National security portfolios that are home affairs,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, have all been booted, and rightly so now

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<v Speaker 1>we know why. But it is kind of amazing when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the six PM news or wider political coverage

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<v Speaker 1>that no one really talks about the reason for the

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<v Speaker 1>moves that have been made. They get to it eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course it's the poles now, the polls right

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<v Speaker 1>now show that in the six months between now and

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<v Speaker 1>the most likely next election, the government is behind. Now yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the teals, we don't know what the results

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, but the almost inevitability of the minority

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<v Speaker 1>government scenario for labor and deeper minority means more Greens

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<v Speaker 1>and more crazy is being in charge of things. But

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<v Speaker 1>poll after Pole News poll has got it. In a

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<v Speaker 1>scenario where the coalition's vote is strengthening. Are the polls

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<v Speaker 1>that one in the Financial Review shows the coalition overtaking

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<v Speaker 1>the popular vote numbers now fifty one to forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>for them over in the Resolve poll. Peter Dutton is

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<v Speaker 1>edging your head. Why because voters are consistently moving against

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<v Speaker 1>this government when it comes to the handling of the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is the only issue, of course, with daylight second,

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<v Speaker 1>but so little chat about it because of course the

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<v Speaker 1>PM was out there selling his wares and geez, how

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<v Speaker 1>brave of him to rearrange his troops, while the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the countries is understandably just enjoying the relief that

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<v Speaker 1>he is watching the Olympics for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it, and I thank you for watching

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<v Speaker 1>us live and certainly listening to us at skynews dot

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<v Speaker 1>com are you podcast and all the rest of it here,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are the hardcorese You are the people who

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<v Speaker 1>have been so loyal to me, to this station for

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<v Speaker 1>year in, year out, and we've forever thankful. But we

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<v Speaker 1>know there are millions of people that are just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watching diving for the only time they do every four years.

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<v Speaker 1>The Prime Minister uses the cover of that distraction to

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<v Speaker 1>well make the changes that he needed to make because

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<v Speaker 1>of the underperforming ministers. But the Prime Minister had the

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<v Speaker 1>stones today to again tell us that up is down

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<v Speaker 1>and black is white and what is before your very

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<v Speaker 1>own eyes is a cheap fake like the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>used to say about Joe Biden falling up the stairs.

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<v Speaker 1>He claims that these major and significant changes, particularly this

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<v Speaker 1>significants in and around home affairs. I no changes whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all steady as she goes, it's all continuity. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all the greatest and most stable government since the best

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<v Speaker 1>of the Howard years. Of course this isn't true, but

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean the Prime Minister won't say it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is something that my government has brought stability

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<v Speaker 4>as I've said today we have the first reshuffle after

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<v Speaker 4>more than two years and two months. That compares with

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<v Speaker 4>four reshuffles under Peter Dutton. You've had dysfunction. On the

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<v Speaker 4>other side, what you've had with this Labor government is stability, order,

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<v Speaker 4>consistency going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention belligerence. Of course, the ministers who were

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<v Speaker 1>there in immigration and in Home Affairs should have been

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<v Speaker 1>sacked instead they're all moved around under the cover of

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics. One of the mean girls in Senator Gallay

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<v Speaker 1>her she should have been sacked after being caught lying

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<v Speaker 1>to the Senate about what she knew, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know about all of the matters to do with behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>in and around Parliament House back in twenty nineteen. But

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<v Speaker 1>the belligerence of this government is just never had been

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. Because if you've never had been a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>then you get to turn around and say how stable

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<v Speaker 1>are we now. You didn't say how effective they were,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't say how good they were, He didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>what they had achieved. It just was all about stability.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same logic that says when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>our economy. Sure, for five quarters in a row, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a year and three months. We have been in

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<v Speaker 1>a per capita recession. You are suffering. Yet because the

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<v Speaker 1>government gets more money than they were planning out of

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<v Speaker 1>things like growing bracket creep or maybe turning around an

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<v Speaker 1>extra resources, they get to say that they're fantastic economic managers.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's a budget surplus. You're supposed to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that you were going backwards. It had

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<v Speaker 1>been going back every day since this bloke became Prime minister,

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<v Speaker 1>with twelve interest rate rises thirteenth on the way. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but they've got a suplus, which means that they know

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. The two little too late tax cuts were,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, billions of dollars wasted on a political slogan.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that they're paying the power bills of the

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<v Speaker 1>mansions of this country at the same time as it's

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same amount as the one bedroom unit tells

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<v Speaker 1>you everything. It's all about politics, and amazingly, the people

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<v Speaker 1>who know that the government is statistically in trouble right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It has had plenty of problems. It has failed to

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<v Speaker 1>deliver on its central promise on things like cost of

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<v Speaker 1>living and interest rates are this close to going up

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<v Speaker 1>again because inflation is not under control yet. Haven't listen

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<v Speaker 1>to how most of them spoke today. They spoke as

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<v Speaker 1>if they were taking it from the perspective of the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime minister. Now, occasionally some people might agree because this

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<v Speaker 1>is their preferred side of politics. But the reason they

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<v Speaker 1>reshuffled the government is because they are behind in the

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<v Speaker 1>polls and they are failing to meet their promise. But

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff could have been written by Albo himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no one is being dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Immigration Minister Andrew Giles and Home Affairs Minister Claire

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<v Speaker 2>O'Neill are widely expected to be shifted. This reshuffle marks

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<v Speaker 2>a refresh for labor. I am stressed it had nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with their handling off the release of more

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<v Speaker 2>than one hundred and fifty immigration detainees.

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<v Speaker 3>Reshuffles are an opportunity for renewal.

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<v Speaker 5>They're an opportunity for refresh Prone to using football analogies,

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<v Speaker 5>so here's one for him.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't win Grand finals by having some of your

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<v Speaker 4>best players sitting on the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, Nasi Niki Sava of course. So for Bilde, I

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<v Speaker 1>see her comments back when she was selling a book

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<v Speaker 1>around twenty and Tine twenty ten. But of course we

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<v Speaker 1>know that she's going to be part of this group

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<v Speaker 1>of people that just think it's all about Dutton. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to that in a second. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>not find it amazing that all of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are paid to talk about politics for a living, who

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<v Speaker 1>clearly preferred this government because this government was a refresh

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<v Speaker 1>which means they've all started to have their new relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and so often, and it doesn't matter, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>whether we're talking about generally speaking, business journalism, entertainment journalism,

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<v Speaker 1>sports journalism, or in this case, political journalism, access to

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<v Speaker 1>the people in power is vitally important. Why because quite

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<v Speaker 1>often the media demands fresh, new, exclusive stories, and very

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<v Speaker 1>rarely those stories are critical of the government. Instead their

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<v Speaker 1>little bits of information from the government, or you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to show look how powerful I am because I can

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<v Speaker 1>pick up the phone and get a minister to turn

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<v Speaker 1>up and talk to me, Which is why you get

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<v Speaker 1>this scenario where rather than just being critical of a

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<v Speaker 1>government that is on one knee, that is behind in

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<v Speaker 1>multiple poles, that has failed on multiple fronts, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>say it, Oh, it's all just a refresher, rebrand shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the arm, no admission of any problems whatsoever. And

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<v Speaker 1>also an example about like anything right and again I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about politics. Our obsession is politics. But it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same when a whole bunch of new people are brought

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<v Speaker 1>in to talk about business, or a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>new people cover the courts, or a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>new people cover the entertainment industry. Is that when people

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<v Speaker 1>who haven't been around for long enough, well, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the failures of the past, which in part would

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<v Speaker 1>be perhaps the reason why there is so little response

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<v Speaker 1>to Tony Burke being made the Home Affairs and Immigration Minister. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a bloke who was an immigration minister in

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<v Speaker 1>the failed former Labor government. His performance as the migration

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<v Speaker 1>minister back then was highlighted by the Liberal Party today

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<v Speaker 1>on social media where six thousand, six and a half

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<v Speaker 1>thousand illegal arrivals came in and eighty three boats. Those

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<v Speaker 1>boats were not turned back. They ended up coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the mainland, they ended up going into detention and after

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<v Speaker 1>they went through a process they probably got released along

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<v Speaker 1>with thousands of others by this government under temporary protection VISUS.

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<v Speaker 1>Can someone somewhere please explain to me how the solution

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<v Speaker 1>to the Home Affairs problem is to put back in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of the blood bank the dracula who had already

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<v Speaker 1>had his fangs into it. I don't understand now. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many people around in politics who have not

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<v Speaker 1>been here for a New York minute, who have seen

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<v Speaker 1>these things come and go. But where was this point

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<v Speaker 1>being made? Again? Think about any underperforming minister from any

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<v Speaker 1>government that you can think of, right team, read team blue,

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<v Speaker 1>good guy, bad guy, men, women, whatever, senators, MPs. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea that somebody who had failed in a portfolio then

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<v Speaker 1>labor had lost government, Labour comes back to government and

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<v Speaker 1>the same person who had failed once before gets another

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<v Speaker 1>crack at it. Thankfully Andrew Hasty was not in the Parliament,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly remembers that this blow not all he's cracked

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<v Speaker 1>up to me.

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<v Speaker 6>This isn't about the national security or strengthening our border.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, Tony Burke when he was last Immigration Minister,

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<v Speaker 6>let in about eighty three votes and more than six

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<v Speaker 6>and a half thousand illegal arrivals, so he's not tough

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<v Speaker 6>on boarders. This is about empowering Tony Burke, who is

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<v Speaker 6>under immense pressure electorally. We know that there is a

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<v Speaker 6>very strong Muslim vote in Western Sydney. They're very energized

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<v Speaker 6>around the gaza issue and Tony Burke's under pressure and

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<v Speaker 6>so this is about giving him a portfolio that has

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<v Speaker 6>cachet with the migrant community and empowering him so that

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<v Speaker 6>he can hold this seat.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. Now, it's fine for the opposition to

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<v Speaker 1>make that point, but do we have to wait till

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<v Speaker 1>that time of the day for the people who have

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<v Speaker 1>paid to talk about politics to make up to make

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<v Speaker 1>up to make that point. Meantime, in the real world, now,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter whether you are sitting in your dream

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<v Speaker 1>home on a farm, you've got your favorite dogs around you,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got your feet up and you're nice and warm,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether you're in a suburb in a house that

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<v Speaker 1>is not your dream house, but it's good enough for

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<v Speaker 1>you because you love it very much. So we are

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<v Speaker 1>frightened about interest rates right now. Now Australians are very

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<v Speaker 1>worried about what is going to happen in the next

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<v Speaker 1>little while. When it comes to the reserve back Inflation

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting at a stage where it is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>go back up. If it keeps going up, they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to put up interest rates. All of that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to, of course be a huge problem. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>if the reason why we had to have all of

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<v Speaker 1>the changes in and around the ministry was because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>some people were underperforming, obviously others were breaking promises, well

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<v Speaker 1>what about the scenario in and around the economy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it would be madness to suggest that this

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister would make anything as serious as an omission

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not managing the economy. Well, but Jim Charmers

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<v Speaker 1>is out and about trying to tell you that everything's

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<v Speaker 1>okay when it comes to inflation, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he and the Reserve Bank agreed it needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>between two and three percent last month or sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, in May. We'll get our numbers for June shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>Last month in May it was four percent and it

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<v Speaker 1>started to go back up. Yet he's out there telling everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, we're on top of inflation. The same budget

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<v Speaker 1>that pumped billions of dollars in a slow, trickled fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>but still billions of dollars back into the economy for

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<v Speaker 1>people to spend, which wasn't going to affect you inflation. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, because inflation, despite the fact that the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>is it's going in the wrong direction. He just thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he can magically will it in the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 7>So I'm confident that even though the inflation number that

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<v Speaker 7>we expect to see on Wednesday, we expect inflation to

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<v Speaker 7>have been persistent in our economy and the Dune court.

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<v Speaker 7>But we are still confident that inflation and will continue

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<v Speaker 7>to moderate after that.

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<v Speaker 1>So is this him preparing us for it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>go up again?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, if it goes up again, then the Reserve

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<v Speaker 1>Bank is most likely going to do the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>it can, which is to jump into another interest rate rise.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the thirteenth interest rate rise on this

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<v Speaker 1>government's watch is going to be a political killer, but

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, it's going to be a financial killer for

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of people. We learned last week it's

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<v Speaker 1>about eight hundred thousand people that will move into mortgage stress,

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the minions more who were already there

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<v Speaker 1>mortgage stress to find as people literally in the scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where they are paying too much when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>being able to live somewhere and there's not enough left

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<v Speaker 1>over to pay for the rest of their time and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not because they want to live fancy life. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because there have been twelve interstrate rises since this government

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<v Speaker 1>came to power. Oh but everything's fine and we're the

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<v Speaker 1>most consistent government of all time. And the media turn

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<v Speaker 1>around and basically give a version of the talking points back.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you will pay any attention because the Olympics are

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<v Speaker 1>on fed income. But another bit of data about how

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<v Speaker 1>tough times are right now, and it is all directly

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<v Speaker 1>linked to another problem that apparently this government was absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>going to solve, well certainly dramatically solved, to the tune

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<v Speaker 1>of two hundred and seventy five dollars by next year,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is power prices. Now. As crippling as power

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<v Speaker 1>prices are for every family in the country, they are

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<v Speaker 1>crippling for business. Think about this about your local chicken shop,

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<v Speaker 1>real est, that agent, whatever it is, If they've got

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<v Speaker 1>the lights on, they're sucking in power. The bills that

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<v Speaker 1>they have to pay are not you know, a few

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<v Speaker 1>hundred or maybe a thousand dollars a quarter, they are

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars. That's an awful lot of dumplings and

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<v Speaker 1>somosas that you have to sell to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>keep your head above water or obviously that was bread.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about the hospitality industry. Well, we learned that

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<v Speaker 1>the number of businesses that have just gone and could

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<v Speaker 1>put in the past twelve months is surging compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the previous year. This is not the responsibility of the

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<v Speaker 1>former government, but the data about this government. The Australian

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<v Speaker 1>hospitality and retail industries fail at record numbers in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Why because cost of living and the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of power. Hospitality business has failed at the fastest rates

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<v Speaker 1>on record in the twenty twenty four financial year as

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<v Speaker 1>sawing food and energy prices and a pullback and consumer

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<v Speaker 1>spending pushed cafes and restaurants to the wall. See you

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<v Speaker 1>know this and I know this, but there's putting people

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<v Speaker 1>inside government who don't quite understand that there's an actual

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant on the other end of these things. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just magically food is grown inside your phone and then

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<v Speaker 1>somebody brings it to your house. Let alone, if you

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<v Speaker 1>decide not to go back to the office, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to work from home for ever, that the same business

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<v Speaker 1>that you rely for the coffee, the sausage roll or

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<v Speaker 1>anything else to be available. The next time you do

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<v Speaker 1>wander into work once a month, Well, guess what when

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't going back to work, those businesses don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough income. They hit the wall. The businesses that are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to desperately hold on know that most people will

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<v Speaker 1>end up ordering their food through some sort of app

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<v Speaker 1>that'll take a third of the price. While the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of insurance keeps going up, the cost of power keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going up, the cost of wages keeps going up. But remember,

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<v Speaker 1>as I have said to you so many times, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole economic project of the modern left Labor Party is

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<v Speaker 1>that they will be able to achieve a permanent electoral

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<v Speaker 1>majority that does not require small business that is contemptuous

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<v Speaker 1>of business that has a life outside of government. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>sure they need you for the company tax, and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>take that break, but remember the single biggest source of

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<v Speaker 1>income for the federal government is not the GST, is

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<v Speaker 1>not company tax, but is the pay as you go

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<v Speaker 1>pay packets of each and every Australian worker. The project

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<v Speaker 1>that we've seen play out in Victoria and in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia and other places where labor has been in

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<v Speaker 1>power for so long is that they hire so many

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<v Speaker 1>public servants that you are either dependent on the government

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<v Speaker 1>because you work for the government, they increase so much

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<v Speaker 1>welfare or handout money that they end up with a

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<v Speaker 1>scenario where they want you to be dependent on the

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<v Speaker 1>government to help supplement your wage, or if you are

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<v Speaker 1>in business, they want government to be the biggest client.

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<v Speaker 1>So therefore you will not upset the apple cart. The

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<v Speaker 1>people who live outside of that system, small business, the

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<v Speaker 1>very people who are hitting the wall at record numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>But because most of the people who talk about politics

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<v Speaker 1>are part of this over reliance and inter reliance on government,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't pay attention to it. We'll just order from

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<v Speaker 1>another option on the phone where that app will take

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<v Speaker 1>up to a third of their moneies. Back to the

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<v Speaker 1>quotes here again. After those hospitality rates and record numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of shutdowns so far this year, the new data from

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian Securities and Investment Commission shows that accommodation and

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<v Speaker 1>food services insolvency appointments rose faster than any other sector

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<v Speaker 1>in the past twelve months. The number of collapses had

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<v Speaker 1>skyrocketed by fifty percent to sixteen hundred and sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>competed to its previous high of about one thousand, the

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<v Speaker 1>year before retail trade appointments, that being people who had

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<v Speaker 1>ended up going to the wall. Insolvencies and administrators that

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<v Speaker 1>had surged by forty two percent. If all the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and all the words are boring to you, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>graph this year eleven and a bit thousand, the previous

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<v Speaker 1>year when costant living crisis was still an issue, seven

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<v Speaker 1>almost eight thousand. These are good, decent people who went

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<v Speaker 1>all in on their business and their businesses hit the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>This government could not care less. Meantime, another indiscy here

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<v Speaker 1>about how people are doing it tough. The people who

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<v Speaker 1>are just completely ignored by this government couldn't care less

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>because again, you've got to work for the government, or

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be dependent on the government, or your

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<v Speaker 1>client's got to be the government. And then we can

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<v Speaker 1>gave about sixty seventy percent of the vote and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what anyone else says. The machine much is on.

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<v Speaker 1>What about people with cars? Numbers out today about the

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<v Speaker 1>number of people who are not making their car repayments.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're like enough to pay your car off, you're

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<v Speaker 1>driving around in an old one, well good luck to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are plenty of people who for a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of ways and different finance options they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pay one off and car repositions. Guess what they have

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<v Speaker 1>surged another sign of just how bad things are, so

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<v Speaker 1>they can give themselves a pat on the back and

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<v Speaker 1>a gold star and a little tickle on the tummy

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<v Speaker 1>from the media. The reality in the community is we

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<v Speaker 1>don't buy the bs that comes out of these people.

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<v Speaker 1>The automotive auction house Pickles has described a recent spike

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<v Speaker 1>in a supply of resess vehicles as significant thirteen percent

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<v Speaker 1>up in the number of repossessed cars in the past

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<v Speaker 1>six months, eleven over the past three months. They attribute

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<v Speaker 1>this to the rise of cost of living pressures and

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<v Speaker 1>a falling of used car prices which have hindered the

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<v Speaker 1>ability of vehicle owners to refinance their fast appreciating assets.

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<v Speaker 1>Automotive arrearsed data show from the banking sector that Australians

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<v Speaker 1>are falling behind on their car payments. People who have

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<v Speaker 1>not paid one for three months or ninety days is

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<v Speaker 1>now twice as many as it was a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the details that are coming out of Westpac

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<v Speaker 1>and then in the West Australian thousands of people in

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia have moved back with their parents. Why cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living. But this government's amazing, right, give us another

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<v Speaker 1>three years. We're fantastic. We can be arrogant because the

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>teals will save us. We've got a teal in Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel free to make a change, send a message. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>a number of people are cutting back on how much

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<v Speaker 1>they're spending on a wedding. I don't think weddings are

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<v Speaker 1>probably taken up too much of too many people's wedding

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>this weekend on my wedding was perfect, but you get

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<v Speaker 1>my point. Lots of people spend too much on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But it cost living means you it's pulling back. Even

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC reporting on the number of people who are

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<v Speaker 1>making and mending their own clothes. Why because apparently the

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.359
<v Speaker 1>greatest government of all time ain't the greatest government of

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<v Speaker 1>all time. But the people who are the guardians of

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<v Speaker 1>the political galaxy, well, they of course believe the single

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<v Speaker 1>problem here is no one in the government. It's Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton chief amongst them, of course, has lefty Laura Tingle there,

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<v Speaker 1>who remember any attack on her is unhelpful. As she

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<v Speaker 1>said to her or unhelpful to the ABC. Well, too bad,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got the tape. And you think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>racist country, We are a racist campule.

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<v Speaker 8>Its face that we always have been, and is very

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<v Speaker 8>depressing to give a license like that. I find profoundly

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<v Speaker 8>depressing and a terrible prospect for the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, who knows no doubt you will inevitably get another

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<v Speaker 1>reward because people like me criticized her. Who cares right,

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<v Speaker 1>But perhaps the next one will be a Goldwalkley because

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<v Speaker 1>she will secretly be able to give evidence to the

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<v Speaker 1>nonsense that she said again when trying to spread fear

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<v Speaker 1>around Peter Dutton that apparently evil white people would turn

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<v Speaker 1>on people who don't look like them the next time

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<v Speaker 1>they're bidding for a house. Of course, utter garbage, but

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<v Speaker 1>she said it anyway.

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<v Speaker 8>For a major politicality, that must be saying, as NICKI says,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, everything that's going wrong in this country is

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<v Speaker 8>because of migrants. And you know I had sudden flash

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<v Speaker 8>of people turning up to try to rent a property

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<v Speaker 8>or at an auction, and they look a bit different

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<v Speaker 8>whatever you define different as that basically he has given

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<v Speaker 8>them license to be abused.

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<v Speaker 1>Rubbish bs crap, but despite that experience, of course, she

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<v Speaker 1>ain't for changing, she ain't for turning, and the ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>that props her up as one of the great daians

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<v Speaker 1>of power on the left of Australian politics, well, she

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<v Speaker 1>just keeps on going. She sat down with another hardcore

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<v Speaker 1>lefty who replaced a previous hardcore lefty on Radio National

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<v Speaker 1>listened to by hardcore lefties, to yet again talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton despite everything that I just showed you, data

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<v Speaker 1>that I just showed you about how the country's going

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong direction. She sat down and she had

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<v Speaker 1>a chat with the blog hosting the late night life

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>program on Radio National. Don't worry, most of the country

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>doesn't listen to it either, and she sarcastically accused the

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<v Speaker 1>opposition leader of plugging nuclear power that offers you a

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<v Speaker 1>future unlike those terrible renewables that the Labour government is offering.

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<v Speaker 1>The host, then healthy reminded Tingle that listeners, many young

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 1>young'ins wouldn't have a clue about the nuclear disasters of Chernobyl.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a problem, yeah, Chernobyl. That's the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Dutton's the problem, because nuclear power, which is by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, available in what's that Paris, and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>canceling the Olympic Games. It's available in Los Angeles where

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<v Speaker 1>the next Olympic Games. Again, Tingle went on accusing Dunton

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<v Speaker 1>of using language that's similar to the un Republican presidential

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<v Speaker 1>nominee Donald Trump Prize. Of course, the media that is

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<v Speaker 1>doing their part for the left wing cause, good weekend

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>on the weekend where this was their puff pace and

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<v Speaker 1>again little tickle on the tummy to the tills, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to get back into that media cycle now,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that, of course they've had virtually no

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<v Speaker 1>impact on Australian politics apart from yes, denying the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party and opportunity to be statistically a chance of what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening at the next election. Oh but you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>into politics, that's taught me I have more courage than

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<v Speaker 1>I thought. Oh the courage it takes to get everyone

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<v Speaker 1>giving you the preferences and then all of the media

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<v Speaker 1>not criticizing you, no matter how badly your performance ever

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:45.959
<v Speaker 1>happens to be, must be terrible. How old made giggling

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Miles, the Premier of Queensland. Now this one's been

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<v Speaker 1>on the back burner for a while. But you remember when,

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<v Speaker 1>just after he announced the brand new police Commissioner he

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<v Speaker 1>decided to go and tour the parts of queens And

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<v Speaker 1>that are heavily affected by youth crime. Well, as we

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out the time, there was a particularly offensive moment

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<v Speaker 1>when not one but two private jets paid for by

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<v Speaker 1>the taxpayer, landed in the same place for the same announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently they couldn't all work out that they could

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<v Speaker 1>all fit on one jet. No, no, that wasn't allowable. We

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<v Speaker 1>found out that, by the way, in the past couple

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>of days about exactly how much this nonsense cost. One

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy thousand dollars is what the Queen's Land

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer was paying for not one but two private jets,

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<v Speaker 1>one to take the Premier, one to take the police commissioner.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't possibly fly on the same plane. When pushed

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<v Speaker 1>on it last week, Steven Miles, well, of course he

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<v Speaker 1>had an excuse for that, didn't he.

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<v Speaker 5>As I have explained to the Member for Broadwater, my

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<v Speaker 5>itinerary was booked sometime earlier when it was clear that

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<v Speaker 5>the Police Commissioner was to be appointed, just prior to

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<v Speaker 5>my travel. I asked him to accompany me and he

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<v Speaker 5>made his own travel arrangements.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, the wastefulness of government. It's no one's job to

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<v Speaker 1>turn around and say, okay, there are six spots. Okay, Premier,

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 1>we need one for you, Police commissioner, one for you,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, there's four others on no note, it's Premiere

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<v Speaker 1>plus everyone, and mate, can you just get yourself there?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not go on the same plane. Again, the common

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>sense that fails on things like that extends to bigger

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and more complicated public policy like actually dealing with you

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.719
<v Speaker 1>crime Queensland. Come on, you got a chance. I have

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>deep faith in you. But I was, of course, so

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<v Speaker 1>to put disappointed last time. We'll see what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>voting happens at the end of October. Plenty more between

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<v Speaker 1>now and then when it comes to the queens and election.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I mentioned the Princess Leia bikini. Now, as

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>we know, it's sort of super nerd time at the moment,

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>with Dead Evil and Wolverine number one in the box

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>office all over the world, comic cons just come. A

0:29:45.440 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>bloke paid one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>the as worn Bikini when Princess Layer was captured by

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<v Speaker 1>Jab of the Hut. Yes, I do understand the resemblance.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've grown a bid since then. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five thousand dollars. Okay, that's expensive cosplay. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk here about the latest when it comes to Trump

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and Harris. Now, she's raised a lot of money, sure,

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>huge amount of money, and it does show enthusiasm. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at some data about this before. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>about Biden. Democrats were going to vote for them, but

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they won't particularly enthusiastic about him. Well, now basically the

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<v Speaker 1>same amount of people who are going to vote Democrat

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>are enthusiastic about the Democrat. But thankfully, the latest numbers

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<v Speaker 1>show us that the number of people wanting to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for Trump is basically as high as it's ever been.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the comparison the Democrats. It's now tighter, but

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the enthusiasm gap is still higher than where the Democrats are.

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>But with this more than two hundred million American dollars

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>which have been raised by the Harris campaign in a week,

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>they're spending it on ads like this, and I've got

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to say I'm not entirely sure. This is an ad

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>for somebody who's running for president, or it's like an

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>ad in a movie about someone running for president. Production

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<v Speaker 1>values are fantastic, but almost too good.

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<v Speaker 9>In the election, we each face a question what kind

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 9>of country do we want to live in? There are

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<v Speaker 9>some people who think we should be a country of chaos,

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<v Speaker 9>of fear, of hate, but us we choose something different.

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<v Speaker 1>We choose freedom, unless, of course, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>wear your mask any want your kid to be able

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to go to school and not have to sit in

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a tent. Or of course, those people who currently don't

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>have freedom because they're still in jail after Kamala Harris

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>as prosecutors sent them to jail in California for crimes

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like drug possession, which ironic because of course marijuana is

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>now legal in that state. But you know, minor details.

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<v Speaker 1>But for its part, the Trump campaign is finding its

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>fate on how to respond now obviously the first week

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and all of the news and all the rest of

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>it and all of the excitement, but still fundamentally in

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<v Speaker 1>this race, according to all of the polls, that we

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<v Speaker 1>have to this moment, all of the betting that we

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>have to this moment. All of the swing state data

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<v Speaker 1>to this moment is that Trump is still winning. He's

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<v Speaker 1>winning by small margins in some areas, by the same

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>big margins in other areas. Currently in the electoral college,

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<v Speaker 1>remember it needs two hundred and seventy votes to be

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<v Speaker 1>the president. The current average is that he's over three hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>which is basically the same margin that Biden had over

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<v Speaker 1>Trump four years ago. So Trump is still winning. Harris

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<v Speaker 1>is closer, but fundamentally more people agree with Trump on

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the economy and on immigration, and messages like this from

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the Trump campaign are seeking to drive it home.

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<v Speaker 9>I am a part of latter.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm finalser. You're considered the most liberally United States senator.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, actually, the non partisan gov Track has rated you

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<v Speaker 10>as the most liberal senator.

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<v Speaker 3>You have any plans to visit the border. We are

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<v Speaker 3>going to the border.

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<v Speaker 9>We've been to the border.

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<v Speaker 3>You haven't been to the border, and I haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>to Europe.

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<v Speaker 9>It's actually wrong and backward to think that more police

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<v Speaker 9>officers will create more safety.

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<v Speaker 3>We get rid of money now.

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<v Speaker 9>Convicted in prison like the Boston Marathon bomber on death row,

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<v Speaker 9>people who are convicted of sexual ASSAULTA should be able

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<v Speaker 9>to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course she can be remade sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a bumber an address and sort of you know, hip Hillary,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and she might be able to shape shift. And she'll

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>probably never sit down for an interview or do a

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>press conference where anyone's going to turn around and say, I, actually,

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>so what is your actual position on this, that and

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<v Speaker 1>the other. But the fundamentals right now, towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of July, after a week of all the noise, all

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<v Speaker 1>the money, all the change, Trump is still winning, will he?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll all find out together quick break back with more

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about here on Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into a great conversation. Been looking forward to

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>this one all day. The wonderful Sam Crosby joining me

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in the man cave right now, and the wonderful Senator

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Matt Canavan as well. We love these chatel On Monday night,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he's joining us, of course from a beautiful North Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>So lads, it's all it's all better now, like the

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>government's fine poles will go back. There was no sacking

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>of anyone the Prime Minister. When asked why was Giles

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>moved or clear Onneil because there was a reshuffle, was

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>his answer. Sam, do you feel like you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a complete revolution?

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<v Speaker 11>How many times have I been on this show? And

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<v Speaker 11>how do you saying we need a reshuffle, We've got

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<v Speaker 11>to have a reshuffle. And now we have a reshuffle, Sack,

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 11>we now have a reshuffle. Can you say, why are

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 11>we having a reshuffle? I'd just say normal people don't care, right,

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 11>So of course I don't care. So your sense of

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 11>political change, right, Like, I mean, if you're doing it

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 11>under the cover of the Olympics, you kind of don't

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 11>want people to notice. Look, I think the immigration, as

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 11>we've talked about many times on this show, immigration become

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 11>this weeping sow for labor that they needed to quarter ze.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 11>They needed to do something to stop the bad news

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 11>stories and move on. Tony Burke, I think we'll do that, genuinely,

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 11>I think we'll do that. I'm sure Matt's got a

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 11>different view, and I'm sure you've got a different view

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 11>about his handling of industrial relations within labor. He is

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 11>seen as an absolute success on this You know, every.

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<v Speaker 1>One unions everything they want, but not just him.

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<v Speaker 11>Now, but where's Where's sure, where's where is it? Where

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<v Speaker 11>are the employers saying that he was an abject failure?

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<v Speaker 11>Don't disagree, you know, genuinely there was a very short

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 11>lived scare campaign about something or another that then went

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 11>nowhere as soon as they saw the detail of the bill.

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<v Speaker 11>He dominates the House in a way that very few

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 11>other people can. My pick is you're going to see

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 11>this immigration issue in the next six months, right around

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<v Speaker 11>the time of the next election, completely fade from from

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<v Speaker 11>the headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, as we know, Matt, there was some

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>data around that. Apparently the actual number of people that

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>have been released in the end about five hundred. All

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>of that will of course be backfilled to the previous

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<v Speaker 1>two ministers. But the thing I understand message discipline, and

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<v Speaker 1>I understand governments having a level of self confidence and

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.879
<v Speaker 1>never admitting mistake all the rest of it. But we're

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.839
<v Speaker 1>living in fantasyland, aren't we. When if the reason these

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>people had to be moved was because there's a reshuffle,

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<v Speaker 1>why did the Attorney General keep in their position, why

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>did the ndies minister get me? The whole point was

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>they were underperforming and they had to get moved. Now,

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister always comes up with a little dance

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 1>series of words to make it seem like, you know,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>going backwards is going forwards. But if this was an

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<v Speaker 1>area that was hurting, feel free to admit that you

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>were getting it wrong.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I think what people see out on the ground

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<v Speaker 10>is that anthe Albanezi is applying different rules to his ministers,

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 10>to politicians than would apply to them in the real world.

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 10>In the real world, if someone in their job in

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 10>the senior position presided over the kind of stuff up

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 10>we saw last year where hundreds of more than one

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 10>hundred criminals were released onto our streets around extra about

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 10>thirty crimes were committed by those criminals after they were

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 10>unncessarily released.

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<v Speaker 3>If that din'd happen in the real world, people would

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:10.720
<v Speaker 3>lose their jobs.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 10>They would lose their jobs, and they know that they

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 10>know they'd be held accountable the workplace. At the very minimum,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 10>they'd be demoted or miss out in bonuses. They know

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 10>that they know going to work they're under that pressure.

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 10>Are just basic everyday jobs in this country. Yet our

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.760
<v Speaker 10>politicians seem to be held to a totally different standard

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.959
<v Speaker 10>when incompetence actually leads to promotion, because that's what.

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Clara Nil's got.

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 10>She has been promoted, after presiding over this monumental stuff

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 10>up into a more scene, near and important portfolio, and

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 10>that just aggers the Jesus out of people, because, as

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 10>I say, they don't get this sort of free kicks

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 10>that our politicians get. And you would expect our nation's

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 10>prime minister to apply the same type of rules to

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 10>his own ministries that would apply to all Australians working

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 10>out there in everyday life.

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 3>And it really angers people.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 10>And it's a very poor example that's been set by

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 10>a prime minister that apparently there's nothing you can do

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 10>in his ministry would cause you to face sanction for

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 10>poor performance.

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm looking at the topics on the board today.

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>What are we going to do? Where are we going

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>to talk about?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.439
<v Speaker 1>The Barnaby Joyce thing is such a beat up today, right,

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>like a spectacular, over the top, intentional beat up. Right,

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.479
<v Speaker 1>But if I don't talk about it, see the talking

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 1>about it. Clearly, I've talked about sort of the emotional

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>rhetoric and increasingly violent rhetoric that was in and around

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>American politics, but our politics is different. That said, we

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>should talk about it for that very reason I'm not

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>going to play you all of the stuff, despite the

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>fact that it's all there to be seen. Right, you

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.319
<v Speaker 1>saw what was said, which was a poor metaphor, which

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>was about voting, not about shooting, not about killing, but

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>about voting. He then apologized, Oh, but the Prime Minister

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 1>was indignant and this was the story of the day

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know all the Karens on the internet going crazy. Right, So, Sam,

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>is this the single greatest reason why Barnaby Jews should

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>be scrubbed from the political record here? Because again, should

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you said it? No, But when you apologize, and if

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you apologize quickly and it was a poor metaphor, then

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really going to set my hair on fire

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>for four days about it.

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<v Speaker 11>Sure, I realized the forum that I'm in, and you know,

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 11>I'm very reluctant to go Barnaby voice on poor Murray life.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 11>But for heaven's sakes, this is a week after the

0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 11>former president of the United States was shot and you're

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 11>using a gun metaphor at the best of times, but

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 11>a protracted gun metaphor where we're talking about loading a

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 11>magazine of Sure, sure, sure to use your paper on

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 11>the ballot, but not hillpe hold on, hold on, he's

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 11>talking about a minister who needs a protection because of

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 11>the large number of verified threats that he and his

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 11>family get.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>But right, Peter didn't have these things, and I didn't

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>see sort of a great mercy rule being played about

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>a new tone, the new tone of hollow. So look,

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>is it a shocker. Yes, But when you say sorry, no,

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm just start thinking so I completely disagree. So you

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>say that's if I don't say that's it. I think

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>he needs to be I think you should be sacked.

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:07.439
<v Speaker 11>The question protracted, probably be a little bit attracted with him.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's it off from the shadow ministry. Peter must

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>get rid of him pretty much. It isn't getting rid

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of also a metaphor for killing people.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Don't get rid of Clara O'Neil. You don't get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of Clara O'Neil, actually stuffing enough.

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<v Speaker 11>If anyone in labor had said anything similarly like this

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 11>about Peter Dutton at any stage, I would be sitting

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:28.720
<v Speaker 11>here saying, yeah, absolutely.

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 3>And that shows the difference.

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<v Speaker 10>That shows the difference shows a key difference here that

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 10>you people in the left side of politics often seem

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 10>to get more upset about what people say than what

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 10>they do. I mean, Clara O'Neill presided over one of

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 10>the biggest ministerial stuff ups in this nation's history and

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 10>doesn't get touched. And then I don't see Sam calling

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 10>for a sacking. But someone says something in the heat

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 10>of the moment that is wrong and wasn't the right

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 10>thing to say.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 3>He's Baby's admitted that, and yes they should get sacked

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 3>for saying something. It's it's saying something.

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 10>And I mean the other question of here to Sam

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 10>and to the to the Prime Minister is where was

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.439
<v Speaker 10>the outrage then about Joe Biden, I mean a month

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 10>ago saying that he wanted to put Trumps in the

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 10>bulls eye.

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, correct, I mean he should he and I.

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 10>I was not critical of Joe Biden for that because

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 10>it was clearly a metaphor. Clearly a metaphor and again

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 10>none wise one. But in no way is he responsible

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 10>for what happened. It's it's let's just let's just tone

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 10>this down right. The PM collage, your question was totally

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 10>over the top.

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 11>To answer your question at the time, I didn't say

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 11>anything because I thought it was, you know, part of

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 11>the political cut.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 1>And thrust if you like.

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 11>Subsequently to Donald Trump being shot, I absolutely did say

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 11>that was too far and he shouldn't have said it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think stand before you think he should stand

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 3>down over it?

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the question.

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 10>The question is not holland hold the questions be appropriate

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 10>sanction for it if he if he's you're saying that

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 10>he should lose his job.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 1>If he said that, now I would say yes, but

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he's not. Well, well they sort of push him out

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the way anyway.

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 10>But in particularly double stand titles, I'm saying, I'm happy

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 10>to apply an equal standard.

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not calling for.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 10>Joe Biden to be sacked over it, and I'm not done.

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 10>I don't think bunab we should lose his job over

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 10>to either it's and also just a.

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Poor form of words. Let's move on, he said sorry,

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Let's move on, Joe Biden.

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And it is that thing where you know it is

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a contest. It is it is a contact sport verbally

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>speaking right, and yes, sometimes people will will go too

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>far in making a point. My issue is always right,

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>how fast and how genuine is an apology? Right? Like

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got my issues in there around jd Vance and

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 1>the cat lady stuff about you knowe, just if you're

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>going to say sorry, say it nice, clean, quick and

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>loud at the start. Right in said no, he's going

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to double down, right, So we'll see whether there's a

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>consequence to all of that. But I find nine times

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>out of ten that it's okay to apologize. And I

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>live on this sliding scale. We're not everything equals you know,

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>not everything equals life in jail. Sometimes it's just an

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>awkward day, a slightly embarrassing day, you know, you know,

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of take your medicine sort of stuff. But you know,

0:42:58.040 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>we'll see where it all lands anyway. QUI break'll talk

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>about the State's and a whole lot more next with

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>these boys, because I think they will thoroughly agree that

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris is amazing. Thanks very much for watching. Let's

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>talk American politics now with two blokes who are just

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>as invested in it. But we all know Australia's most

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>awesome place ever. But these two big blokes have got

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>plenty to say about it, Matt Canavan and Sam Crosby. Matt,

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start with you, okay, Kamala Harris, basically,

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever was holding back the money for Biden. It's surging, right,

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple hundred million dollars, But we're now sort of

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 1>through a phase where we didn't know what was happening

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>with the polls. There's enough polling to suggest that, of

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>course she's replaced much of the deficit of Biden, but

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>she hasn't overtaken Trump the in the swing states and

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>on the key issues. As a person who wants Trump

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>up and over the top, how do you feel a

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>week into this, Well, look, it's probably.

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:54.240
<v Speaker 3>A bit early to say.

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 10>Obviously, these types of changes usually do involve a little

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:03.959
<v Speaker 10>bit of reinflating of enthusiasm, especially among a party's base,

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 10>because it's they're new and they're different, and they can

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 10>be package maps and gives it. It's like a new

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 10>football season, right. You always think the new team your

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 10>team's got is going to win it this year, and

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 10>they're going to do it, and the Times will win.

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 10>All those hopes go out the window. So I think

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 10>the fundamental problem for the Democrats here is the Ross

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 10>belt states. That's where the selection comes down to. And

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 10>you look at the electoral map, it all comes down

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 10>to states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, although that's pretty

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 10>much in the red column now. So the question is

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 10>does a relatively left wing or the most left wing

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 10>in some measures, a former senator from California, from San Francisco,

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:50.280
<v Speaker 10>be that as it may help the Democrats in those states.

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 10>I don't know, We'll She'll have to pull off an

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 10>amazing level of flexibility that we're not even seeing in

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 10>the gymnastics at the Olympics to straddle San Francisco to

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 10>all the way to Cleveland.

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I mean, it's this thing where I mean,

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>part of your studies of recent time is again is

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a full Bright scholarship. I had to spend plenty of

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 1>time in the United States. But of course it's like

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:15.759
<v Speaker 1>any country. It's many countries within countries, right, And as

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Matt says, you know, the top right hand corner does

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>not automatically believe what the bottom right hand corner and

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>all of that in between. Right. But at this election,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>we've got a scenario where a state like Nevada, huge

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Union state, is kind of in the Trump column. Right.

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So there are a few things that are surprising to

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>this point, regardless of whether it was Biden or Harris.

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 1>And sure, I get it, there's the relief that you've

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>got somebody to fight. You've got a boxer in the fight.

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 1>But what's your sense of okay after the first week

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Yay.

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 11>Where Harris is Well, Look, the polls consistently said that

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.760
<v Speaker 11>seventy five percent of people just wanted someone new, fresh, younger,

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 11>They didn't want to repeat of the last election. This

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 11>is giving them that and so yep, you're seeing an

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 11>increase in her numbers. So you know, let's see. I

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 11>do think Matt's analysis, I think is absolutely spot on.

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 11>This does come down to that Russ belt, those three states,

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 11>you know, Nevada, Arizona. Yeah, they're under a big question mark,

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 11>but they're also small. You can you can either side

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 11>can absolutely win without holding those correct you know, I

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 11>think genuinely the way it will come down to is Pennsylvania.

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 11>Whoever wins Philly will win, will win the presidency.

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, which is why potentially the governor of Pennsylvania is

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>being talked about as her vice president. So pick and

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that would help.

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 11>So that's Josh Spire so very vice presidential picks matter

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<v Speaker 11>very little in the scheme of things, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be able to win your own stake. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 11>And that's that's one of the very few areas which

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<v Speaker 11>you know why putting JD. Vance on was an interesting

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<v Speaker 11>and I think it really will see if it was

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<v Speaker 11>confident nor overconfident. Move Ohio is voting Republican, but it

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<v Speaker 11>helps lock it in sure, But that is in the bag.

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<v Speaker 11>The question is does a one year governor in Joshapiro

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<v Speaker 11>carry a state with it. I mean, he's got numbers

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<v Speaker 11>that are unheard of, the sixty five thirty five favorabilities,

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<v Speaker 11>it's unheard of to have someone that popular. Let's see

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<v Speaker 11>if he does actually get it. Mark Kelly's the other

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<v Speaker 11>one from Arizona Correck, you know. And I think it

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<v Speaker 11>would be cool to have a former fighter pilot and

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<v Speaker 11>former astronaut as a vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I don't disagree, but let's get to the dvance

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<v Speaker 1>of it all. I've got only ninety seconds. But Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I sit here and look, I get all of the

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<v Speaker 1>upside of J. D. Vans and what he said in

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<v Speaker 1>his past, in his back history, and he's very sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, I get what is awesome about him.

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<v Speaker 1>But the crazy cat lady stuff, which yes, there's a context,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of her, does it like, is

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<v Speaker 1>it real as a reason why people would think twice

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<v Speaker 1>or the reality is if you've already said you for

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<v Speaker 1>Trump by now, it doesn't matter who's with him.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, look, I mean I think it was a silly

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<v Speaker 10>thing to say, and he should apologize for it.

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<v Speaker 3>You probably shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 10>You shouldn't you shouldn't have talked about people like that

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<v Speaker 10>as other ways of make these points. Look, I think

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<v Speaker 10>I agree with what Sam just said. I don't think

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<v Speaker 10>vice presidents make that much matter of difference. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>look how they characterize Mike Pence back in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 10>They accused him of all sorts of things. It didn't

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<v Speaker 10>make much difference, and I don't think it probably will either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean again, what is fascinating because again I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're seeing the media trying to use all the

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<v Speaker 1>tricks they can to sell the narrative of how amazing's Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's wait for the poll, which is what is the

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<v Speaker 1>number one issue. If it's immigration, Trump wins. If it's abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>Harris wins. If it's the economy, Trump wins. Anything else

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<v Speaker 1>we'll find out, But right now i'd imagine those two

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<v Speaker 1>that are good for Trump are still in newspavor and

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<v Speaker 1>still priorities. Thank you guys to appreciate it. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>again this time next week and plenty more to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about on the show tomorrow night. You can as always

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<v Speaker 1>send me an email. Paul itsguydnews dot com dot you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you to everyone in Newcastle. We had a spectacular

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<v Speaker 1>time and stand by for the late debate right now.