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Speaker 1: Good, your bloody champions, welcome to another installming that you

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Speaker 1: projeck Tiffany and Cook's been away. She's been just wrapping

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Speaker 1: up awards all over, winning prizes, putting on frocks.

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Speaker 2: Very out of character.

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Speaker 1: Will come to the lovely Amelia in a moment, but

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Speaker 1: quickly we'll say hello, tiv, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hi, and we're read high heels. Don't forget those bad

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Speaker 3: boys like a real woman.

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Speaker 4: I know, Hell, did you?

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Speaker 2: How did you feel in all of it?

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Speaker 1: How did you feel getting out of your boxing gloves

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Speaker 1: and your bloody, sweaty, stinky gym ware into a frock

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Speaker 1: and high heels.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't get enough of it. In the end, I

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Speaker 4: wore some sequins as well.

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Speaker 2: Fucking now, I'll call the cops and did you you

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Speaker 2: were looking for? You were looking for.

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Speaker 1: A cocktail dress? Did you end up going for a

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Speaker 1: cocktail jumpsuit or something?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I wore the jumpsuit that I had for my

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Speaker 3: previous event. Because it's very stressful shopping.

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Speaker 4: Amelia, Is it stressful for you? Shopping?

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Speaker 5: It's such a shit job it is. I hate it.

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Speaker 6: I absolutely hate it, and I always end up ordering

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Speaker 6: too much stuff and half of it doesn't fit, and

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Speaker 6: then it's such a house sort to send it all back.

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Speaker 5: But I do love a jumpsuit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good little silky black one. Thanks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they work well.

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Speaker 4: I have a complaint. Three buttons on the back of

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Speaker 4: your neck like a little chocol You've got to undo them.

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Speaker 3: To have wi Yeah, they have this little bit of

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Speaker 3: you can't.

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Speaker 4: I've had other people, strangers in the bathroom spending fifteen

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Speaker 4: minutes trying to de robe me so I can have WII.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a little leakage accident waiting to happen, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'll be back.

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Speaker 1: I'll just go get a coffee, Like if anyone needs me,

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Speaker 1: I'll be in the hammock.

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Speaker 2: Don't let me get in the way.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry.

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Speaker 6: We're going there early, Craig, and we ain't we ain't

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Speaker 6: coming back.

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Speaker 1: Don't you two, Like for the first time in your life,

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Speaker 1: don't you too? Just wish you could, you know, just

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Speaker 1: zip down something at the front and for doush. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then so much easier, so much, so much, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Especially after four children. Gosh you really yeah, after four children,

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Speaker 6: the time between needing to go and actually going diminishes,

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Speaker 6: and so you got to know where those bathrooms are

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Speaker 6: and don't make me laugh too hard whatever you do.

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, now now I'm going to be thinking about

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm going to be honest to me, a jumpsuit

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Speaker 1: seems kind of like fancy overalls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cheating, but everyone thinks it's a dress. Oh,

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Speaker 4: you're not nice in your black dress. I'm not not

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Speaker 4: a dress winning.

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Speaker 1: Well and and they and will get to you emelily.

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Speaker 2: You probably think. And why the fact did they ask

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Speaker 2: me on this show. They haven't asked me a question.

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Speaker 6: If you want me for fashion advice, I'm just going

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Speaker 6: to hang up now because that's definitely not my area

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Speaker 6: of expertise on my zone of genius.

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Speaker 1: And now, tif you did? You did emty yourself in

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Speaker 1: a little slam. It's not slam poetry. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and of.

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Speaker 1: Course representing team Fatty Harps and Team Roll with the

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Speaker 1: Punches and Team TIV.

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Speaker 2: Of course you brought home the bacon.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm partial to winning anything that I entered. I

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Speaker 1: Did you backstage just look at everyone else and go,

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Speaker 2: Did you just walk? Do you have a bit of

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know if you're aware,

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Speaker 3: So these steakes got risen real high.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, do they know? Do they know that you?

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Speaker 2: Do they know about your addiction?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Exactly, the world knows. Are you competitive, Amelia?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty still that's child abuse. I didn't know that

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Speaker 6: I think it's raising really resilient kids. My husband pointed

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Speaker 5: Turn anything into a competition.

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Speaker 6: Like I'll literally be all right, ear all in the bath,

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Speaker 6: I'll be okay. The first person out of the bath

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Speaker 2: A game child abuse? How old are your kids? What's

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Speaker 5: I've got four their age between.

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Speaker 6: I got a twelve year old, a ten year old,

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Speaker 1: Well that's I mean, at least they're all kind of bundled.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's that a five year four?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I had four and five years and that was

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Speaker 6: the golden period.

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Speaker 5: I call it.

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Speaker 6: We've got no unpredictable toddlers, we've got no moody, stinky teenagers.

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Speaker 6: I feel like this is as good as it's going

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Speaker 6: to get. I reckon, it's downhill from here, Tiff.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you were screwing up your face then.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, I think, Amelia, actually

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Speaker 3: I think I'm in the golden period.

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Speaker 4: I put a cat and the dog.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, true mate, No matter what. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 6: you're so right. The problem with children is once you

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Speaker 6: realize it's too late, there's a no returns policy.

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Speaker 2: To Lord Smith, that's true. You probably No, you can't, Tiff.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear Doctor Bill the other day talking about toxoplasmosis.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I edited that and I turned half an ear away,

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying hashtag get rid of the cat,

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Speaker 2: Do you know that? Do you know Amelia that?

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Speaker 1: Well, they don't know exactly, but minimum thirty, maybe fifty

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Speaker 1: reporting the sign, says per doctor Bill Sullivan. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: are you an animal person?

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Speaker 5: We have a dog?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I love animals, don't I must say? We don't

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Speaker 1: All right, tell us about a little bit about you,

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Speaker 1: so for my audience, don't know you. What's your job,

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Speaker 1: who are you? What's your background? The Amilia give as

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Speaker 6: Oh well, I'm a big fan of yours, Craig, so

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Speaker 6: thank you so much for having me on the show.

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Speaker 6: And I know we kind of share a lot of

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Speaker 2: But try harder, try harder.

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Speaker 6: I've been in their health industry for twenty six years.

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Speaker 6: I'm an exercise scientist by trade and a nutritionist. I've

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Speaker 6: founder of the Michelle Bridges twelve week Body Transformation, so

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Speaker 6: that was kind of my main business for ten years.

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Speaker 6: So since yeah, since then, I've been really working in

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Speaker 6: They learn more about themselves and then suddenly that stubborn

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting the intersection between psychology and biology

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Speaker 1: and technology, right, and the who's I talking with this morning.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right. I was doing a coaching session.

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Speaker 1: that is our body, you know, And like your body

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Speaker 2: Like? What is what? Even even you know? Like what

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Speaker 2: Like what is that two hours more? What does that

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Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, I'd so wish that we could

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Speaker 2: With our body.

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Speaker 1: And I think that you know, some of the appsent

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Speaker 6: It's so funny you say that, because I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 6: And it's almost counterintuitive because it's like, well, hang on,

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Speaker 6: But then it's really interesting because you then layer that

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Speaker 5: So I think it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and you can kind of put it into main

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Speaker 6: And I like this concept of you need to measure

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Speaker 6: And that's the other type of technology that I'm also

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Speaker 1: I think that finally, maybe, and Melia, the ships starting

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Speaker 1: And so within kind of your You're exactly right, it

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Speaker 1: But I've been around it a lot, and I've had

439
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Speaker 1: thousands of conversations about it ten with people, and so,

440
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: I I mean, your body can totally hijack your brain

441
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: and mind, you know, And it's like it can. If so,

442
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: you've been going through your own stuff lately.

443
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 3: How are you, mate, I'm in the middle of the

444
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: perimenopausal car crash, amelia.

445
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 5: It is if that's a great just script up, it

446
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 5: is shit.

447
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: Are you rolling with the punches or even rolling with

448
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 3: the punches but they are landing and the bell is

449
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: not ringing.

450
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 5: What's going on for you?

451
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

452
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 4: Just energy?

453
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: Like I just hit a wall with the ability to

454
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: recover from training right now, I've gotten all point where

455
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: cardio has been put completely out of the equation. I'm

456
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: just tired all the time, and moments of anxiety over

457
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: nothing like anxiety in my body with no relevance to

458
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: anything like lots of yeah, lots of.

459
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 6: Stuff unexplained as well as and you're kind of like,

460
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 6: who is this person?

461
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 5: Because I'm tough, I'm resilient. This wouldn't have.

462
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 6: Bothered me before, but now I'm getting this almost like

463
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 6: palpitation in have you ever woken up in the morning

464
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 6: and you're kind of in that like daisy as you

465
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 6: dazed out? You just wake up, You're like, Okay, what

466
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 6: year is it?

467
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 5: What day is it?

468
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

469
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 5: My god? What have I got on today?

470
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 6: And you get this feeling of like I don't know

471
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 6: if I'm going to be able to get through my day,

472
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 6: Like I get do you get that anxiety?

473
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, And it's like so it's so it really

474
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: challenges everything you think or thought you know.

475
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 4: About who you are. I'm like, why, Like where's that

476
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 4: girl gone?

477
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

478
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: What's this?

479
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 6: I am so with you? And look, everyone's journey is unique.

480
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 6: But can I just say that what has been a

481
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 6: game changer for me surprisingly this year and also now

482
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 6: because I'm so fusy about it, I've been getting a

483
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 6: lot more of our members on it is Creating.

484
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: Oh I'm on it, You're on it has helped.

485
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: You've been on that for quite a while, so before

486
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: this really ramped up as well.

487
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 6: Okay, so you were on it before it ramped up,

488
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 6: because yeah, and I feel like with Creating, I feel

489
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 6: like for PERI women, it's just worth trying, and you're

490
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 6: on it for six to eight weeks and if you

491
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 6: notice a big difference, keep taking it. If you don't

492
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 6: notice a big difference, maybe your body's natural saturation levels

493
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 6: were good, but mine must have been depleted because I

494
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 6: have had so many great benefits from that.

495
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 5: But you know, depending what stage of.

496
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 6: Perimenopause, there's early stage, there's late stage, and then there's

497
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 6: the menopause transition. Depending on what stage you're at, you know,

498
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 6: different treatments are available and can work.

499
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 5: Have you started experimenting?

500
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 6: Are you at the point yet where you want to

501
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 6: go and get some whether it's progesterone or yeah.

502
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 3: So I a year ago went and started got a

503
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: prescription for HRT, and then I had to go get

504
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 3: whole breast exams and stuff to get the clearance, and

505
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: then I I just got my sleep in order and

506
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: I hadn't. I started taking it for like a week

507
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: and then I had stopped have those tests and got clearance.

508
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: But then I just didn't go back on it until

509
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: a couple of months ago and I went back in

510
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 3: this is not it's frustrating, and I went to a

511
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: menopause specialist doctor that I'd searched for and got recommended,

512
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: And I went in yesterday and said, I need another

513
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: prescription for that, but also I want to look at testosterone.

514
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 3: And she said we need to take a blood test.

515
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: And then as we were sitting there waiting, I said,

516
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: what was my testosterone last time? And she said, I

517
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: didn't test it. We don't test that till we need

518
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: to it. I am dumbfounded how a woman can go

519
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: to a menopause specializing doctor and say, my hormones are tanked?

520
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: Can you test them?

521
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: And they don't think that testing all three is relevant? Like,

522
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: I'm so infuriated by this process.

523
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, and also this is this whole concept of why

524
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 6: wait till it's broken before you test and track it.

525
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 6: I say to a lot of my members, we do

526
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 6: this a lot in bone density and women as young

527
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 6: as forty and forty five for bone density scans. I'm like,

528
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 6: I don't care if it comes back perfect. I'm glad

529
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 6: because there's a healthy baseline now we can track over

530
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 6: the next twenty years. You've got that healthy baseline, your

531
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 6: testosterone comes back tickerty boo. That's amazing. This is that's

532
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 6: proactive health. This is true biohacking. That's unfortunate. And the

533
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 6: thing is where I understand that that's not medicare rebatable

534
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 6: because we go broke.

535
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 5: As a nation.

536
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 6: But at least, like, I'm happy to dip in my

537
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 6: pocket and pay for that test because I want to

538
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 6: be able to track a healthy baseline and track those

539
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 6: changes over the years. So yeah, we have a long

540
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 6: way to go, don't we.

541
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: And then when they do get the results, like with

542
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 3: the other hormones they're tested, they were like, oh, you know,

543
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: like you're in normal range, but that doesn't mean anything,

544
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 3: so we'll do this anyway. And I'm like, well, why

545
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: do I have to jump through seven hoops that you

546
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: then don't actually reference at all anyway, which I am

547
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: guessing will happen with the testosterone. They'll go, it's within

548
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: this range, but the symptoms are what we go by.

549
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: Oh good, So you just wanted me to have seven

550
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: more appointments in the meantime.

551
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know you're a highly educated, health focused individual.

552
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 6: Imagine if you weren't, and trying to navigate that that's

553
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 6: why we get so many women. I call it the

554
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 6: missing middle that fall through the cracks. But I think

555
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 6: if you're listening to this and you're going through perimenopause,

556
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 6: or you know someone who is and they're just their

557
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 6: mood is down and they're lacking in energy, at least

558
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 6: go and get the fundamentals measured. So, like I said,

559
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 6: you're vitamin D, your iron levels, your inflammation markers, your

560
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 6: metabolic markers, because if even one of those comes back

561
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 6: in sufficient or deficient, then you've got some quick wins.

562
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 6: You've got something to work with. And then, yes, hormone

563
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 6: tracking is a lot more complex, and the blood tests

564
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 6: don't always show what you know. It's tricky and complicated

565
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 6: because there's just not enough research on women in that

566
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 6: stage yet. But that's why you do try to find

567
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 6: yourself the best women's health practitioner or a doctor that

568
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 6: you can to help navigate it.

569
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: And even then it takes time.

570
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 6: It does take time, and it might not work and

571
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: you might need to change your doses around. But there's

572
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 6: lots of options that do make a difference. And I

573
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 6: think you know, the big resounding message of hope and

574
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 6: it is a good news story compared to what women

575
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: you know, our parents' generation were going through, is there

576
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 6: is so many options out there.

577
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: So it is a good news story.

578
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 6: We've just got to do a little bit of the

579
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 6: work to find that balance.

580
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: And I'm back.

581
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: I just got out of the jacuzzi. I don't know,

582
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: have you two been good? I mean, I've just been

583
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: gone for ten minutes to have.

584
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: A good time.

585
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: We've been, say most right through menopause. Now you took

586
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: that long to come back.

587
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: No, I love no, thank you. That was actually really

588
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: good to listen to both of you. I appreciate you

589
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: being that honest. Hormones are a weird thing, right, And

590
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert anyone in hormones.

591
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: I know a fair bit about it, but I'm definitely

592
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: not ago in that.

593
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: But it's just it's so funny that, like, especially when

594
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: it comes to testosterone for both men and women, you'd

595
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: think you'd think you were asking for heroine the way

596
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: they all rick, Oh.

597
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: We don't what what I'm like, Well, you know, it's

598
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: a naturally occurring hormone in men and women. I don't

599
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: want cocaine or dope or speed or crack.

600
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 6: That fine significantly with age that the tanks run and low.

601
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: And we also know that there are very real, sometimes

602
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: serious physiological consequences.

603
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: It's funny.

604
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: We have a guy on Amelia, doctor Jeff you know

605
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: doctor Jeff Tip from Las Vegas.

606
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: Ye, and he's great. He's on I don't know, once

607
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: mon or something. And last time it was on, I said,

608
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: can I ask you what you take? Like this is alive?

609
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: He's like sure, and he just reeled through everything and

610
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: he's like, I think he takes a bit of growth,

611
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: he takes a bunch of peptides, takes a bunch of vitamins.

612
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: He's like TRT buth blah blah blah blah, right just

613
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: in there like there's no there's no shame, there's no

614
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: He's like, well, why wouldn't you, Like he's like a

615
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: sixty year old dude. He's like, well, why wouldn't you

616
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: you know? And I said, Wow, in Australia, you will.

617
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: You most will just try and get heroin. It's easier,

618
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, because over here. I think a lot of

619
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: people think that I've said this before, but like when

620
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: men or women using testosterone, the picture they have in

621
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: their mind as bodybuilders who look like freaks and take

622
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: a million milligrams of everything, and then that's people's idea

623
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: of what it is to take testoster and people don't

624
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: understand like therapeutic application and benefits. And I still think

625
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: it's unfolding.

626
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: We're still getting educated.

627
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 6: In I'm again, of course, I'm not a doctor, and

628
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 6: everything we talk about today needs to be taken up

629
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 6: with your medical professional of choice. I probably am a

630
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 6: little bit more conservative where because I come from that

631
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 6: functional medicine and functional health background. I like to really

632
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 6: focus on the complete picture, where medications or you know,

633
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 6: hormone therapy supplements definitely a part of the picture, but

634
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 6: they're not a silver bullet. And you know, even me

635
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 6: mentioning CREA team before and you know how amazingly it's

636
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 6: worked well with me, all my other levers are being

637
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 6: pulled at the same time. It's not like I'm sitting

638
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 6: on the couch eating junk food. I'm exercising, I'm doing

639
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 6: all the things as well. So this for me, I'm

640
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 6: in that category of probably a lot of your listeners

641
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 6: you call the two percenters. You know, we're already pulling

642
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: lots of health leavers and we're doing pretty well. So

643
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 6: that's where that's where these other interventions you know, can

644
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 6: really help. But I am a big fan again of

645
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 6: measuring to manage. So don't just blindly go and take

646
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 6: your supplements or go and take your vitamins unless you

647
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 6: are able to measure, and not all of them you can,

648
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 6: so creatine, for example, unless you want to go and

649
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 6: have a nice, painful muscle biopsy and find some lab,

650
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 6: you can't. There's no way of knowing what your muscle

651
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 6: saturation levels are. But other nutrients you can, you know,

652
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 6: like a whole bunch of micro nutrients, you can measure

653
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 6: and know what they are. So at least start with

654
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 6: what you can track.

655
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Creatine's getting a bit of air time at the moment,

656
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: isn't it.

657
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: It's every second. Maybe it's just my feed.

658
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Speaker 6: But it's like everyone you're right, And isn't that funny

659
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Speaker 6: from us dinosaurs who were in the fitness industry in

660
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Speaker 6: the nineties. Don't you remember when it had its time

661
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Speaker 6: in the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I worked for the guy. There was

663
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys who started massashe you remember.

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Speaker 5: Massage, Yeah, yeah, total.

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Speaker 1: And I'm also I've been sponsored by Maxes, so Paul

666
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Speaker 1: and Keith who owned Maxes for one hundred years. And yeah,

667
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Speaker 1: I've been using creatine since before people even knew what

668
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Speaker 1: creatine was.

669
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: Probably you too, but yeah, and I.

670
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 6: Never touched it because it was always for the bros

671
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Speaker 6: and US ladies because of the potential of water retention.

672
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Speaker 5: But back in the day, all the research was.

673
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Speaker 6: Around muscle and performance in strength and explosive and so

674
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Speaker 6: US ladies just were like, nah, not for us. We

675
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Speaker 6: don't want to feel like we're retaining fluid. But of

676
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Speaker 6: course the more recent research around cognition mood is why

677
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 6: it's having its moment. And I was, in fact, someone

678
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Speaker 6: mentioned it like eighteen months ago and I was like,

679
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Speaker 6: oh no, yeah for the bodybuilders, and then suddenly started

680
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Speaker 6: to look into it and I was like, oh no,

681
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 6: there's some really interesting emerging research outside of the gym.

682
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Speaker 2: So I got my dad on it. I got my

683
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Speaker 2: dad on it, eighty five year old Ron.

684
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Speaker 1: I'm like, get this into your on because and I

685
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: mean there's been it's the most researched supplement in the world,

686
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Speaker 1: you know, and it's and like you said to merely,

687
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Speaker 1: it doesn't some people, it's like really really significantly great

688
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Speaker 1: and for other people that aren't, it doesn't do a lot.

689
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Speaker 1: But I think for the majority of people, they'll feel

690
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Speaker 1: some benefit for me. The main benefit for me is

691
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Speaker 1: just cognitive function is clarity, is mental acuity as memory

692
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Speaker 1: is just like and I take about I take about

693
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Speaker 1: fifteen grams a day, which that's not a recommendation.

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Speaker 6: Higher than the recommend Yeah, I'm about ten grounds a day,

695
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Speaker 6: which is a little bit higher than the recuity you do.

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Speaker 4: I do a little bit higher as well.

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Speaker 3: Someone actually this morning sent me one of my friends

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Speaker 3: sent me a little real that was talking about benefit

699
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Speaker 3: cognitive benefits of taking higher than the recommended dose. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think, Look, there's and again everyone has merely said,

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Speaker 1: go chat to somebody who's not us. None of this

702
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Speaker 1: is advice or recommendation or prescription, Bud. There's quite a

703
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Speaker 1: few smarty pans professors getting around, I mean actual scientists,

704
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Speaker 1: not bro scientists on fucking the interwebs, but suggesting fifteen

705
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Speaker 1: to twenty grams a day for optimal kind of cognitive function.

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Speaker 6: But again, I got no kidney issues, and you've got

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Speaker 6: no other health issues. There's very little downside except for

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Speaker 6: the cost. And it is actually very affordable. It isn't affordable,

709
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Speaker 6: it's easy to produce. So I just think it's worth

710
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Speaker 6: experimenting with for six weeks, and honestly, the proofs in

711
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Speaker 6: the pudding for me. I noticed that in three main areas.

712
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Speaker 6: The first one was in the gym and performance. I

713
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Speaker 6: do CrossFit, and I'm very consistent. I kind of know,

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Speaker 6: I can you know in a ward you got burpies

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Speaker 6: in your wad. I know, I get to about six

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Speaker 6: or seven burpies and that's when I start to feel

717
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Speaker 6: the labor kicking in, and that's when I start to

718
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Speaker 6: slow down. And then I you know, know how quickly

719
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Speaker 6: I usually have to recover if I'm doing you know,

720
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Speaker 6: keeping pull ups or something like that. And I just

721
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Speaker 6: was noticing I was get to six or seven burpies

722
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Speaker 6: expecting that to kick in, and I just kept going.

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't until I was getting to twelve or thirteen,

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Speaker 6: but I was starting to and the same with the

725
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Speaker 6: kiping pulls. And then I was noticing I was getting

726
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Speaker 6: sour after strength in a good way, so I was

727
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Speaker 6: able to go heavier in my dead lifts. And then

728
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Speaker 6: the second thing I noticed was my focus. I have

729
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Speaker 6: to do a lot of writing and a lot of hard,

730
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Speaker 6: deep focus, hard work, and I get distracted, and I

731
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Speaker 6: was just noticing I was like kind of coming out

732
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Speaker 6: probably a bit like U the PhD.

733
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Speaker 5: I was coming out of like two hours of being.

734
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Speaker 6: Just deep in the in the focus bubble, going wow,

735
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Speaker 6: like that's unheard off for me. And then the third

736
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Speaker 6: area was my mood. You know, I was having a

737
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Speaker 6: bit like you, Tiff, Like I've always been such an

738
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Speaker 6: optimistic and can do kind of girl, and I was

739
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Speaker 6: having these really depressive sundays where I was teary and grumpy.

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Speaker 6: And it was tim My hubby that said to me, geez,

741
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Speaker 6: you've been in a good mood the last few weeks.

742
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Speaker 6: You haven't had any of those really tiery, moody, grumpy sundays.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's why I was like, Okay, I like

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Speaker 5: this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting so to see bring you breakfast in bed

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Speaker 1: and it's a cup of cretane.

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Speaker 5: I should thank it in my brownies.

748
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Speaker 2: You know what?

749
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Speaker 5: Some pancakes.

750
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Speaker 1: There's you said a sentence or a phrase that's never

751
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Speaker 1: been said in nearly two thousand episodes of The You Project,

752
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Speaker 1: and that he's burpies in your wad. Oh now, seventy

753
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Speaker 1: percent of our listeners are like, what the fuck does

754
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Speaker 1: burpies in.

755
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Speaker 2: Your word mean? Stiff?

756
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Speaker 1: Knows, I know, but it sounds like like a parasite

757
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Speaker 1: in your poo.

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Speaker 5: In my wad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah god, the one I was leaning over the ball

761
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Speaker 1: and I had a burpies in my wad.

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Speaker 6: Oh god, oh my god, no, Creig.

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Speaker 5: Work of the.

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Speaker 2: Day, yes, so burpies. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: You know that exercise and ward stands for workout of

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Speaker 1: the day, which is happens. Hey, you're great, We love you.

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Speaker 1: Just one or two questions before we go, just because

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Speaker 1: what I'm interested. Tell me to fuck off if if

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Speaker 1: this is stepping over the line.

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Speaker 2: How old are you?

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Speaker 6: If you don't mind mouse, No, of course, I'm forty

772
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Speaker 6: six years young.

773
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Speaker 2: Wow you look young? You do? Look you look away.

774
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Speaker 2: I'm not just saying that, Oh you look young.

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Speaker 5: You it's my day.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming back if you do. I don't know. Maybe

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00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: it's the filter. Maybe you look shit in person, but

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Speaker 2: from here I've got.

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Speaker 5: The young I've got the young filter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, you definitely you don't look shit anywhere. I'm sure.

782
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Speaker 1: No, you look very young. So good work you. Just

783
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Speaker 1: I like knowing what the experts do. Just how often

784
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Speaker 1: do you do cardio?

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Speaker 2: What is it? How intense? How much, how often? What type?

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Speaker 5: Okay? So I train five days a week.

787
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Speaker 6: I do one longer run between ten and fifteen k's

788
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Speaker 6: my prozac, my mental health runt.

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Speaker 5: I do that one day a week and then and then.

790
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Speaker 6: I actually do run on all five days, but my

791
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Speaker 6: three CrossFit days I run for twenty five minutes.

792
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Speaker 5: Before the CrossFit class. So I will do that.

793
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Speaker 6: So yeah, I run five days, one really long run,

794
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Speaker 6: three shorter runs just before CrossFit, and then I do

795
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Speaker 6: one kind of mid you know, seven to ten k run,

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Speaker 6: and then I do CrossFit three days a week.

797
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Speaker 2: Great, And do you not that you need to but

798
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Speaker 2: all your strength stuff, all your strength needs get met

799
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Speaker 2: in CrossFit correct? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So we'll do in cross fit one or two

801
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 6: strength moves very heavy, usually like Olympic lifting, so squats,

802
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: front squats, deadlifts, bench, and there's period at periodized program.

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Speaker 5: And then twice a year I do smaller of Junior.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you've ever if you've heard of

805
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Speaker 6: the smaller program, it's a great app So like last year.

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Speaker 5: I did squats and deadlifts.

807
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 6: My goal is to deadlift double my body weight and

808
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Speaker 6: I got there last year, and to deadlift my yeah,

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Speaker 6: my body weight ten times, so I use smaller if

810
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Speaker 6: I need to kind of get over a strength plateau.

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Speaker 6: That's a three week program. Yeah, and yep, and I

812
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 6: love I love that. You know you could do I

813
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 6: could always do some more strength training, but I've got

814
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Speaker 6: four kids and run a business, so you've only got

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Speaker 6: so many hours in the week.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's someone else on this call who does reps

817
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Speaker 1: on sixty kilos on the bench and it's not me.

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00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 5: So wow, TIF so serious.

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Speaker 6: Inching your body weight or you know thereabouts? Pretty excited,

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Speaker 6: respect my friend.

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Speaker 5: That's amazing. That's so incredible, Amelia.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you.

823
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: And I genuinely feel today like I was the third

824
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Speaker 1: wheel in this conversation. So we should extract me next time.

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00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: Just leave it to you two girls. We'll call it

826
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Speaker 1: the You Project. I'll intro and outro and then you

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Speaker 1: two can.

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Speaker 6: Just I did admit I was fangirling around Tiff before.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, sorry, Craig.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we love you.

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Speaker 2: Too, whatever, whatever, too power.

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Speaker 1: Oh she got bloody stopped at the airport by a fan.

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Speaker 2: Ah. I love it.

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Speaker 5: I hope you got a selfie.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Adrian, by the way, shout out to Amelia.

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Speaker 1: Where can people connect with you, find you, follow you

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Speaker 1: and find out all about you?

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Speaker 6: Oh look, Instagram's the best, So underscore Amelia, underscore Phillips.

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Speaker 6: I've got a blue top on in my profile pick.

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty good on DMS and I put lots of

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Speaker 6: free stuff and education up there, all around health, longevity,

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Speaker 6: health span, lots of tips and tricks, so you can, yeah, visit.

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Speaker 5: My podcast healthy her Craig.

844
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry it's kind of for women, but you're more

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Speaker 6: than welcome to come and fig around in.

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Speaker 5: We're actually going to get you on in a couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks, so I'm excited. I'm excited to get on.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, ladies, what's up. Don't worry about that.

849
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Speaker 5: You're going to put you in the hot seat, my friend.

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Speaker 2: I might have to borrow I might have to borrow tips, jumpsuit.

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Speaker 6: And ready hells, Oh my gosh, I would pay to

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Speaker 6: see it.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: You're not the only one I will say goodbye fair

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Speaker 1: But Amelia, you're great. We appreciate you, and I look

856
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Speaker 1: forward to coming to have a chat with you on

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Speaker 1: your show.

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Speaker 5: It's been fun. Thanks guys,