WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 16 July 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.960 Lately welcome Late Debates. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:08.879 Well, it's great to have your company on the late Debate. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.639 I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:16.560 The US anthem is the star Spangled banner right, Well 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:18.840 at the weekend it was the star strangled banner. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.799 A terrible rendition. We'll show you that a little later. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.720 Plus, when we look at the papers, the Muslim vote 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.320 looks to be imploding before it's even begun. And record 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.840 numbers of Australians opting for gas connections in their homes 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.120 despite all the fuss by climate catastrophists. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.360 We'll get to all that when we look at the papers. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.440 But first, Donald Trump, as if back from the dead, 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.080 received a hero's welcome when he arrived at the Republican 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:49.080 National Convention today, just days after surviving an assassination attempt. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.559 Trump entered the auditorium with a massive bandage on his 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.600 ear and the sounds of God bless America. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:03.400 Please welcome the next President of the Unitedsteed, Donald J. Trump. 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:17.240 Things from Who's This Song? 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.039 So, Trump and his running mates, who will talk about 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.479 in a moment, were formally endorsed as the Republican candidates 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.319 and Liz. Elon Musk pledged sixty six million dollars a 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.120 month in funding for the Trump campaign. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:31.240 It was a pretty good day for me. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.600 I can't lose with Elon Musk on your side. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.760 I mean to be honest, Watching the bits that I 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.640 did of the RNC, I was a little bit surprised. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.319 Everyone knows that I loved Trump, but this is not 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.960 what I was expecting from the RNC. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.120 First you've got. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:52.520 Amber Rose, who's a former stripper some would say porn star, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:57.160 getting up and endorsing Trump. Then you've got an immigrant 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.520 from Nico Wagra got up and gave her story after 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.760 Obviously she's a legal migrant, but Trump has been promising 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.640 these mass deportations like nothing the world's ever seen before, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.800 something his VP seems to have rolled back on already. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:19.720 But there was also this extremely strange seekh prayer to 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:23.080 an entity called wa Ha Guru. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:42.960 Tho Takama Bedi Opender Subathias Do Marteptha Hamabarkrikiarmasuka Kan. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:50.239 This is not what anyone is expecting at a basically 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:54.560 a Trump conference. This is his defining moment. This is 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.320 Trump's America on display. It does make me wonder whether 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.600 the second Trump administration is going to look different to 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.000 the first Trump administration in a. 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.680 Way that people do not want or expect. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.320 I feel like they panned it at several points during 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:15.040 this RNC. I don't think it's what the nation needs 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.760 or what any true Trumpers would want to see. 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.440 I don't know a national convention. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.600 I don't know, so I have nothing better to do, clearly, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.079 and I watched almost all of it this morning, and 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.560 after you know, they at first they have all different 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.560 governors and whatever get up and say their piece, and 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.079 then once Trump came out, most of what you had, 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.920 as you alluded to, Liz, was people that you wouldn't 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.880 necessarily expect to endorse Trump. But I think that was 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.520 a very deliberate move because what they're trying to set up. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.480 We'll get into the talk about his vice presidential pick 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.960 Jady Vance in a minute, but what I felt they 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.760 were trying to set up today was here was a 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.680 bunch of people, and many of them who got up 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.680 and spoke after Trump arrived, just out and outset it 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.400 that I voted for Biden in twenty twenty, and I'm 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.880 going to vote for Trump in twenty twenty four. What 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:06.320 he's setting up is that Biden has been so bad 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.360 that you now need to come and vote for me. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.240 He had a unionist to get up and speak. I mean, 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.720 he wouldn't expect a unionist to go and speak to 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.840 the RNC. But again, it's all about saying that we 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.080 are now the party of the average person. Forget about 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.600 the Democrats. They're not worried about the workers, they're not 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.360 worried about the legal migrants. They're stuffing you over with 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.520 all the illegal migrants. We're the party that is going 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.920 to stand up for the average person. So what you 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.880 saw was a series of people who really in the 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:36.719 past wouldn't have been there, but now are the people 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.839 that the Republican Party is courting, average Americans who otherwise 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.000 would have voted for the Democrats. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.520 I on side of it, but that's what I mean. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.159 You're a shilling for votes. You're it is a pr stunt, 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.839 of course it is. This is not very American, true 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.960 Trumpers or people who fly the American five being like 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.520 I'm a drump But this is not what I don't 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.640 think they would have appreciated whatsoever. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.120 They're not going to change their vote. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.800 Well precisely, and you're not going to win that. On 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:05.440 the back of it, I. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:06.720 Found it disappointing. 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.000 You could have found other individuals who were just as 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.920 happy to say I was voting for Biden. Now I'm 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.800 on the Trump train and I'm not getting off without 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:18.520 that much virtue signaling. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.800 I've got to say, with all the virtue signaling, I mean, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.000 you had strippers, you had unionists, you had was that 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.440 a Buddhist or a Hindu lady doing the stamp? It 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.719 was a Lutheran church minister who actually stole the show. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.880 Pastor James Ronkey have listened to this. This is just 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:34.680 before he prayed for Donald Trump. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.919 And if I may before the benediction, give you this promise, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:41.200 You're going to be. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.440 So blessed. 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.520 You're going to be tired of being blessed. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:48.560 I guarantee. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:59.560 It's the thing I like about that, right is Trump 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.400 is in so many different ways, and usually badly. But 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:06.760 the church minister gets up and he's taking the piss 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.760 out of Donald Trump. And Trump, for the whole of 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.239 what I saw of the convention, actually looked quite stunned 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.120 by the reception he received. And if it's possible for 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.559 Donald Trump to look humbled. He actually looked humbled in parts. 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.960 Yeah, he actually looked quite emotional in parts. It as well, 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.080 you would be. He got shot at the other day, right, 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.040 and then he's rocked up to the rock star welcome. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.360 And I mean I say rock star welcome. The thing 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.560 was like a rock concertate points. I mean you heard 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.200 the band playing as he came out, and that's what 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.640 they kept doing. Between every single one of these speeches. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.560 The band would fire up. And if you'd watch the 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.880 footage on Sky today, like they're all up in the 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.320 audience dancing pretty badly. It has to be said, some 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.160 of the dancing was, but it was just it was 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.960 so American, right. You watch something like that and you're like, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.599 you go to a campaign launch for the Liberal Party 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.400 or the Labor Party and it's all these sort of 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.640 boring people shuffling in to hear the leader talk to them. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.800 Don't do things like that in America. And of course 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.680 Donald Trump didn't speak today. He will speak later in 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.920 the conference, but I kind of wish he had spoken today. 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.840 If he did speak today, it might have gone something 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:14.720 like this. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:20.040 You can take my ears, but you cannot take my liberty. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.760 They want to cut off my ears like the Taliban. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.840 But what they don't know is my ears can grow 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.800 back like SpongeBob through budding. By the way, hit me 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.600 with your best shot, why don't you, Because if that's 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.000 the best you got, you're a loser. 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:34.680 You're such a loser. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.960 You missed so bigly. By the way, you had a 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:37.880 big opportunity. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.600 You could have made my head blow up on TV. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.000 But you didn't do that, did you. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.640 Now my ear is going to grow back bigger and better. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.119 It will have better hearing. 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:48.880 I will hear like an owl. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:52.400 How good is that? 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.640 While we're talking about is EA being shot off? I mean, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.040 we haven't actually seen what his e looks like without 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.000 that ridiculously large band dijo on it yet, but I'm 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.360 sure that we might see that later in the conference, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.320 if not a little bit after. But the shooting has 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.080 now turned into such a big cash cow for all 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.960 these people online selling T shirts and caps and all 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.360 this sort of stuff. If you go on Amazon or 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.080 any of the big websites now where you buy this 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.400 sort of stuff, Trump merchandise based on the attempted assassination 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.400 is now the number one thing. You go on Amazon 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.720 and look at themed t shirts and all the number 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.680 one sellers at the moment of stuff like you can 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.240 see there with Trump with his fist in the air 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.800 and all this stuff based on assassination. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:34.520 Get mugs. 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.559 You can get dog Cardiansardigan, so your dog can have 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.080 the Trump stuff. It's interesting there's a debate online between 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.800 media photographers trying to work out you know, it's an 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.679 iconic image, but now it's being used for Trump propaganda. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.920 Strict use of the image because. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.199 Now and they're making millions of it, the amount of 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.679 outlets doing this now because of course they don't care. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.440 There's money's be. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.959 Made whether they're buying voters or not. Whack those T 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:06.360 shirts online. Long lived capitalism. But before we move on 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:11.199 from the RNC, check out Donald Trump Junior stop to 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.199 talk to an MSNBC host. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.880 And that was very gracious of him. But it wasn't 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.520 a two way straight was it. So it ended with 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.040 him biting back. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.880 What is that change going to look like? Don what 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.160 practically your father as president? I think you would even 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.760 say it was a divisive figure. What's it going to 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.480 look like in the second term. I don't think he 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.120 was a divisive figure at all. I think the media 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.439 created divisiveness around him. They lied about Russia Russia collusion, 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.959 they said he was a trader. They went after him 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.360 in every which ways possible. If the media actually starts 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.520 being an honest broker talking about the things that he did, 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.120 the prosperity he brought, the peace deals that he signed 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.520 around the world rather than the disaster that we're living 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:50.160 right now, I think you do everyone in the country 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:50.680 a big favor. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.760 And that actually ended with him just being like, Okay, 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.160 stop now, like I'm leaving and walking off because the 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.079 MSNBC really want to to push the fact that no, 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.400 Trump was the divisive figure and we can't quite move 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.640 on from that, ken we but we. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:07.400 All know today. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.680 Also at the conference, Trump finally announced his pick for VP, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.400 and that is j. D. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.560 Vance. He's a senator from Ohio, a former Marine man. 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.680 He is a Yale grad attorney, much like Vivek Ramaswami. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.839 And the funny thing about this pick for me is 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.480 that this guy back. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.280 In twenty sixteen said that he was a never Trumper. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.280 He said that Trump was a racist, He called Trump dangerous. 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.959 He even went so far as to say that Trump 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.800 was unfit for office. Check out this little grab of 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.840 just how much he's changed his tune over the years. 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.719 As somebody who doesn't like Trump myself, the elites will 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:53.679 right about Donald Trump. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.320 Right. I'm a never Trump guy. I never liked him. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.800 He's the best president of my lifetime, and he revealed 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.800 it in this country. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:02.560 Like nobody else. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.920 I can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.240 is leading the white working class to a very dark place. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.199 I think that he was a good president. I think 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:12.640 he made a lot of good decisions for people. 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.000 I think you're not a Trump supporter from what I've read, 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.320 Am I right? Is that a fair assessment? 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:17.800 Yeah? 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.360 I didn't vote for Trump all around. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.360 He was a great president. I'm thirty seven years old. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.439 Certainly the best president of my lifetime. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.360 I don't hide from that. I was certainly skeptical of 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.439 Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. But President Trump was a 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.599 great president, and he changed my mind. I think he 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.200 changed the minds of a lot of Americans because again, 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.319 he delivered that peace and prosperity. If you go back 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.640 to what I thought in twenty sixteen, another thing that 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.079 was going on Sean is I bought into the media's 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.880 lies and distortions I bought into this idea that somehow 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.080 he was going to be so different, a terrible threat 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:48.800 to democracy. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:54.680 It was a joke. Skeptical. You're a bit more than skeptical, buddy. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:55.640 I'm sorry. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.839 It is just too much for me to believe that 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:03.920 suddenly this guy's a strong concernservative conservative, populist nationalist when 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.640 he was a massive Obama fan as well. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.559 On the record, this guy loved Obama. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.640 I know that we can all change, but especially at 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.960 a time where Trump's being shot in the head, He's 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.559 being coude left right and center, indicted, impeached. 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:22.640 Buried in law fair. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.320 Why would you choose someone that you know hasn't always 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:27.040 been loyal? 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.199 And in fact jd. Vance only changed his tune. 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.559 Obviously twenty sixteen, he didn't vote for Trump. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:39.240 He voted for CIA agent Evan McMullen. And this guy, JD. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:44.160 Vance was only seated in the Senate after a CIA 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.400 contractor by the name of Peter Thiel stumped up ten 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.680 million dollars, at which point Trump endorsed him. They both 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.920 kind of just agreed to talk about that, not to 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.600 talk about the fact that Vance had been very, very 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.480 anti Trump in the past. And that's when he was 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:01.600 seated in the Senate. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.079 I don't know this guy. I don't trust him yet. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.839 I just think it's a surprise pick from Trump. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.520 I think the thing you're missing is is he's only 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.319 thirty nine now, right, so prior to twenty sixteen, he 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:12.360 just turned thirty. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.599 It just goes to prove thirty year olds really have 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:15.520 a lot of learning to do. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.360 Kayleb, don't you twenty five year old Caleb? 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:19.640 He'd be hard pressed. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.599 He thanks for setting me up with that one. You 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:22.240 old fast. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.440 He'd be hard pressed to find a Republican who back 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.560 prior to Trump's first term didn't have major concerns about him. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:30.520 That was not true. 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.400 He was very popular, can. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.719 Now on board? He were saying all sorts of yea, 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:37.480 And there. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:42.680 Were a lot of very young the Trumpers. This wasn't well. 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.680 He was young at the time, which, by the way, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.920 anything under thirty that isn't exactly young. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.199 But he was from which vantage point you look, No, 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:52.040 not when you're. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.240 Talking about a marine, a Yale grad. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:57.360 I mean this guy, he's a New York Times bestseller. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.800 Exactly, So we're not talking about a kid here. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.240 He's obviously at. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.760 His Trump is demonstrating you can change your mind about him. 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.160 Trump is also demonstrating he's secure enough to have a 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.000 VP who once said some very nasty things about him, 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.319 but Trump doesn't hold it against him. This place to 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.280 the new narrative of Trump, I want to bring people together. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.680 I'm not going to hold grudges. Let's get moving forward. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:25.880 And Trump is the last man to tolerate disloyalty. Right, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.160 But if he thought that Vance was going to be 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.840 a problem, he would not have picked him as VP. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:40.680 Like we can all see the political ingenuity of Donald Trump. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.400 You saw it when he raised his fist on the weekend. 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.600 He is always on and always thinking about the politics 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.960 and the optics and what is the right thing to do. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:50.680 In this moment. 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.960 I do not believe for a minute that Donald Trump 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.280 would pick JD. Vance as his VP if he genuinely 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.600 thought there was going to be any problem in doing so. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.880 And if Jade Vance shows him any kind of disloyalty, 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.800 well we know what Donald is going to do to him, right, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.440 We will not hear the end of it. So I 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.960 think Vance has genuinely changed his mind. And if I 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.280 don't know whether you've read his book, hillbilly ellogy. But 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.080 if anyone at home, if you haven't, I highly recommend 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.920 you do it. It's an excellent memoir, as he writes it, 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.760 growing up in the Appalachian Mountains. But it's almost an 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.680 explainer of how Donald Trump happened because it talks about 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.880 the rust belt of America and the poverty and the 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:37.600 way that they were left behind by the political elites 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.480 of America. And he didn't necessarily mean it to be 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.480 a connection to Trump when he wrote it, but it 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.680 came out. It came out in twenty sixteen, when, of 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.480 course the campaign was well and truly on and then 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:55.160 Trump was eventually elected, and it almost explains why Donald 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.640 Trump got elected. So it kind of makes sense that 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.000 having gone on that journey and his book coming out 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.640 when it didn't be as timely as it was, that 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.960 he has gone on that journey as well and said, Look, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.800 the man I thought Donald Trump would be as president 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.720 is not the man he was as president. I'm on 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.760 board now to the point where Trump is willing to 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.160 accept him. I just don't think Trump would be that 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:17.920 stupid to be I think. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.960 A lot more than I like him goes into picking 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.600 a VP. There's a lot of politics involved in cutting 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.720 it down to the person who will serve your purposes 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.560 for other purposes other than that. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:30.800 Sure like them. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.280 But of course it took no time for the media 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.600 to then turn on jd Vance because if Trump's picked. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.600 Him, he too must be very evil. His CNN chiming in. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.480 Jd Vance is an ideological nationalist. That's a much more 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.200 dangerous virus because he can make this He can polish 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.040 this stuff and make it seempalable to people. He can 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.040 sell this stuff to Silicon Valley. He can sell the 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.280 stuff by the places, and when it does, it lacks 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.240 the report and party on a pathway that I think 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.959 is dangerous for the world. Again, the Ukrainians are now 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.879 in deep trouble, NATO is now in deep trouble. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:09.840 Trump is he geta gone. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.680 With Nikki Haley and sle to the world. Hey listen, 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.280 I got a gift up to my base, but I'm 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:15.320 not going to abandon the world. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.080 This pic is a horror on the world stage. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:24.560 He just call him a dangerous virus in two seconds, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.680 all of a sudden. Jade Vans also the biggest threat 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.880 to democracy is the biggest threat to the free Well, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.160 it's like it's sol dishable. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.440 You're wondering why Trump picked Jad E. Vans Will Will 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.520 He just explained there. His problem with the vice president 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.360 pick is that he's going to be able to sell 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.960 the Trump agenda so effectively because he's incredibly articulate. The 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.840 debate between Kamala Harris Advance. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.280 Oh, that'll never happen, magnficent. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.000 The other happening thing is he is only thirty nine 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:53.560 years old. 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:58.119 Trump, I think recognizes he can't possibly reform everything that 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.399 needs reforming in just four years. So he needs someone 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:05.280 who's young enough and ideologically strong enough, articular enough to 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.680 carry it on beyond Trump. So it's a great pick. 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.879 By the way, just before we move on to other topics, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.639 there is a photograph going around the internet this evening 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.320 comparing the vice presidential pick to well, the great Caleb Bond. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.600 Have look at this. This has gone viral online. Caleb. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:29.120 I think it's a very very strong resemblance. That's there. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:34.680 I was today accepting the vice presidential nomination from Donald Trump. 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.840 But of course, the one thing that he and I 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.760 also have in common, and this is a large part 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.920 of the reason I think he's been chosen as VP 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.399 is that he comes from a working class background. And 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.480 of course, the whole Trump campaign back in twenty sixteen 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:54.040 was based very much on that rust belt of America 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.720 that had been left behind, and he's picked a vice 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.800 presidential candidate who comes from that background. He wants to 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:04.200 bring those people with them, and I think from that 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:05.760 perspective it's a very smart move. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:06.720 Just one more thing on this. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.720 Remember the first time Trump ran, he had Mike Pence 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.240 right correct, who was comparatively. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.480 Boring, but deliberately, deliberately he got the. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.000 Christian vote over because Trump had this pretty bad reputation 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.000 in terms of his morals. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.760 But Mike Pence apparently enough. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.640 You agree that he does pick a VP for other 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.360 reasons than that I like him. It's like this guy 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.760 appeals to a certain amount of people. Trump also knows 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:31.639 the states that he. 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.240 Has to get across the line, and he Joe's according 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.840 my pen My point being, Pence was a really safe 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:38.520 pick for a deliberate purpose. 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:40.800 This guy is a bit of a left field guy. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.399 Does it demonstrate a how confident Trump is and that 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.520 Trump is really going to go in knowing I've got 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.359 four years to make a real difference. I want a 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.720 VP who's going to be a bulldog and absolutely go. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.280 Hard on me, because you've got someone who was once 0:19:55.040 --> 0:20:01.600 downright antie you, who is now a heartbeat or a away. 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.040 From the presidency now for your entire four years. 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.600 And indeed, from this moment onwards, if something were to 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.560 happen to Trump, would he just be the next the 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.080 next guy to just be like, oh, well, the VP, 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.520 he'll have to do as our candidate. 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:17.960