WEBVTT - Bonus: A Detective's Tips For Finding Us During Hide & Seek 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.599 Play a cool propos in the. 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:10.239 House, Lawrence, tell me what's you know? 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:11.720 Last week it. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.680 Was the dog squads, as I mentioned, they ripped Clint's 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.040 car apart. This week from the Armed Crime Squad, Detective 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.320 Sergeant Paul Mulligan, good morning. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.960 Morning, damn it. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.479 Yeah, you're already in trouble with the police on the 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.160 there we go, Paul. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.360 Thanks so much for coming in, mate, not a problem, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:31.960 so plain closed, detective. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:32.879 That's right. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.000 I see the policeman like you freak me out because 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.320 I feel like I know what I'm getting when I 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.440 see a man in his police uniform or a woman 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.200 in her police uniform. But do you guys just float 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.120 around the community watching everyone wether we do? 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.639 And I think probably the biggest thing is unless you've 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.800 been in trouble with the police, or you know you're 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.440 a victim of serious crime, you won't actually get exposure 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.720 to police outside of uniform. So we're quite often referred 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.680 to as the undercover police, which technically. 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:03.760 What are your cruising around in these days? 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.400 Car was I've got a voss Wagon, Tiwan. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:13.360 I've seen the Volkswagen, but you've got so many aerials. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.960 I think it's a little discreete but maybe not so much. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.199 Actually, you know what, the Queensland Police got in trouble 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.840 a while back because they were using the family stickers 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:23.199 on the back of their undercover cars. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.520 People off, yeah, we don't do that here. Yeah. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.680 Now, you are part of the arm crime squad, so specifically, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.320 what do you investigate? 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.840 They're right, So typically our day to day work involves 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.000 non fatal shooting, so firearms incidents where somebody has been 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.399 injured as a result of a shooting. Kidnappings is something 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.840 that we quite regularly deal with, and not the sort 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.720 of stuff you've seen in the movies where there's ransom 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.000 demands and things. But you know, there's there's a couple 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.120 of different levels of kidnappings, so the type where you know, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.280 somebody might report having somebody dragged into a car from 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:58.800 the street something. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:01:59.680 Yeah, yeah, correct. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.120 So will initially receive those jobs, triaged them, and then 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.880 generate a response as to how we how will investigate 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:07.160 and manage the interview. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.320 You've got a family, I do, is it working on 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:14.119 a kidnapping case? I could imagine would be quite mentally challenging. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:16.320 It is, it is, and I guess to dispel that 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.000 he myth that kidnapping is where children are taken. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.920 It's nothing generally kidnappings that. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.560 We deal with adults quite often you're probably find in 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.720 that organized crime space or you know, people that are 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.600 involved in criminal activity will be subjected to kidnappings. We 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.600 also see incidents where in a family of violence context. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.240 Unfortunately you'll see that they're a common one that will 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:40.880 see on the side of the road where a female 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:42.840 might get dragged into a car or something like that. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.600 So these are terrifying incidents for victims because agbergs as well, 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.280 there's been a spade of agbergs across. Aggravated burglary sorry 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.240 where you know there is a weapon involved, it's not discharged. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:03:00.240 That's used as a threat in seven elevens or where I've. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.400 Got a weapon but they don't use it. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.000 Yeah, So as well as doing the non fatal students 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.560 of kidnappings, we do robberies. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.760 We're shots are fired, we do aggravated burglaries. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.320 Whereas on a residential property, let's say, where somebody will 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.440 go in with a firearm, discharge of firearm. So as 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.080 the name suggesting arm crimes, god, we do deal with 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.480 a lot of firearms. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.840 Are you going out to the crime scenes and looking 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.960 around or is it like when I would watch Blue 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.040 Heelers and true crime shows where they sit in an 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.240 office and put all the pictures in. There's lines pointing at. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.360 Things like the TV shirt, very like that. We do 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:32.720 do that. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.960 I guess the technology has come a little bit further 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.360 than since then, so we have computers and we do 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:38.280 charting and things on. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.600 Yeah, that's stupid question. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.200 But someone someone kicks down my door at seven o'clock 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.600 at night and they're holding a knife or a gun. 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.839 Yep, just go with it. Do whatever they say. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.120 Oh yeah, that's my suggestion. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.120 Yeah, absolutely, Like I think the issue is most of 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.320 them are coming in unless it's targeted specifically, if they're 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:57.840 coming the bridge trying to steal things. You see a 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.080 lot of thefts of cars and the line it's not 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.680 worth putting putting yourself on the line for that. If 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.200 somebody comes in, just let them take what they want 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.880 to take. I know that goes against the grain for 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.120 a lot of people, but let them do what they 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.880 want to do and then just contact the police. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.360 And I was going to say, is there anything apart 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.040 from taking their description in mind? Is there anything we 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.599 should be looking for to remember that we can pass 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:21.040 onto the cop. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.279 Yeah, what helps you find? 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.279 Yeah, all those sorts of things. And I guess that's easy. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.240 So afterwards, when we talk to victims, it's sort of like, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:28.599 did you notice anything distinct? 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.600 But you know, most of them are in. 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.560 A panic adrenaline rush. It's it's sort of hard for 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:33.280 them to see things. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.440 You know, we need we need those stickers like on 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.280 the door at seven eleven. That's right, put them in 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:39.000 our house door. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.279 How satisfying is it to catch a bad guy? 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.400 Oh, it's immensely satisfying. So I guess that's part of 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.360 the reason why we do what we do. We're really 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.360 passionate about the work we do. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:54.400 Say you've been hunted, Oh, nice, nicked, that's right. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.479 And with the kidnappings and a lot of the work 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.480 we do, given the nature of the people we deal with, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.680 we often knew is the elite Special Operations Group. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.520 So the soggis there's a lot of people know it's 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.040 like swat team. Correct, correct? 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.080 So I think you know, there's there's no no greater 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.440 way to say that you've messed up than when you've 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:12.320 been arrested by. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.239 Them, and they they're based in the city. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:15.760 Yeah they are. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:16.000 Yeh. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.360 And is there like soggy Is there a soggy Dash 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.160 swat team in there twenty four hours ready to act. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.680 Yes, So at three o'clock in the morning they can 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.919 load up there with the Yeah, yeah, right. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.440 You don't want to see them at your front door. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.800 Well you wait, they'll come through the front And that's 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.040 that's necessary because given the work we do, like these 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.440 things happen in the middle of the night. Yeah, it 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.560 happens like if we're on coll So every every day 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.640 we have a detective sergeant on call who will vet 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.159 and triage kidnapping, shued ins, all sorts of jobs that 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:42.520 sit with it. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:44.680 You get the calls and then you work out what's 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:45.520 the most important to get. 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:46.440 That's right, that's right. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.160 Dis closed my mind that this is going on in Melbourne. Yeah, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:50.599 it is a scene from a movie. 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.720 Well, speaking speaking of which four years was four years ago. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.240 You're involved in a pretty specky one involving a gold hest. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.520 Yeah, this made the news as well. You might remember 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:00.560 this as E. S. 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.880 Cruz and police scour this rural property in Gippsland, near 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.280 the aptly named community of Dollar, where gold bully and 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.960 jewelry and cash were discovered the alleged proceeds of a 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.960 massive heist. A loaded gun and stolen number plates were 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.440 also found buried three point nine million dollars worth. The 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.279 valuables were taken from the Melbourne Gold Company on Collin Street. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.239 So they robbed the gold plate. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.080 Yeah, yeah, So that's quite a significant incident, obviously, given 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:31.120 the nature. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.520 Of the stuff that was taken. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.840 Obviously there's an immense amount of planning that goes into 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.920 a heist like that. So on face for you. Initially, 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.040 when we receive a job like that, we'll go out. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.839 The local detectives will initially attend the same We'll go 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.360 out and will coordinate a response. The investigation will sit 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:52.240 with us. That particular job was quite significant given the 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.440 amount of gold bullion, cash and jury that was stolen. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.920 Believe gold bullion's actually I think what is that? 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:58.680 Gold bars? 0:06:58.760 --> 0:06:59.000 Yeah? 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.080 Correct, So it was because when we recovered it, we 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.120 had a big trolley of it sitting the office. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.200 It's just bliing away. Couldn't stop looking at it. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.640 Just on that I will notice if one of these 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:10.000 is gone. 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.720 Do you guys make sure you've got another cop with 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.440 you when you're counting out like seized money. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.040 And so we've got processes in place. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.640 So and again with technology, the advances in technology, we've 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.120 got cash cannons and. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.680 That's all Recordings's the. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.240 What's the craziest thing you've witnessed? Because remember we only 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.080 had a robbery just last week here in Melbourne made headlines. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.240 With underwear on his head. This is a brief that 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:34.760 has baffled police. 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.640 It's very bizarre in terms of the outfit that was chosen. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.560 He committed the crime in unders on his head, he did, he. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.720 Did good like brief that's confused police. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.720 And I guess as funny as that job made, but 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.520 like he's very resourceful. The robber there, it's still there. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.000 We've got victims. You know, we have a person who 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.280 was inside that time. So you know, as much as 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:58.280 we like to have a bit of a laugh and 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.320 put that sort of stuff out there for the benefit 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:01.840 of the community and trying to work out who it 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.920 is that was responsible, there is a real serious element 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.200 to it too, and that is that you know, he's 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.960 gone in there with a firearm and he's pointed at 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:08.960 somebody behind the jump. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:09.640 Terrifying. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.680 What about a dumb crim you were to come across. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.920 I love thoselines. Is this Melbourne's do criminal? 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.320 We often laugh because you know, we don't catch the 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.560 smart ones, although we like to think we do. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.000 But yeah, like that. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.360 Our work, like I say, it is targeted to that 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.520 more organized crime sort of stuff where there's a lot 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.240 more planning, but not as dumb correct guy. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.400 Would bear a dumb criminal. I hear these things and 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.360 I'm like, I would never even think to do that. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.080 My brain just doesn't go there. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:36.440 So if I have to go onto the bank, I 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.400 look around while I'm waiting in line. Probably shouldn't say 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.280 this in front of you, Paul, but I I had 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:40.640 to do it. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:41.439 How do I do it? 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:41.679 Oh? 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.920 Well you wouldn't because banks aren't really carrying money anymore. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.560 But you can't even get into a bank. Are there 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.000 any banks open anymore? 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:49.920 Yeah? 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.080 That funny little concierge come up and go how can 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:53.840 I help you? Hey, we're going to go to a 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.280 quick break. We are doing probe the Poe po. We 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.520 have a detective from the Armed Crime Squad joined us 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.320 this morning. On the other side of this. We want 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.240 to get your help for Melbourne to try and track 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.360 us down and our two hundred and fifty thousand dollars 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.240 hide and seek, and we'll do it next pol We 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.880 are about to embark on our two hundred and fifty 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.280 thousand dollars Hide and seek, Melbourne's biggest game of hide 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.920 and seek, and people can come and find us. It's 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.959 all thanks to our mates at Alexis. You can make 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:25.079 a dynamic entrance with the Lexus lb X City suv 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.200 at Lexis of brighton the pan Highway. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.000 Mention that to the guy's Victorian police, I'll get your 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:30.240 deal on. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.320 You must find criminals in some funny old places. I 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:39.000 believe you once found a bad guy hiding in a dam, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.280 but wasn't doing a great job of concealing his identity. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.880 No, that's right, So we find him in all sorts 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:45.400 of places. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.800 But this particular incident, we chased the calf for a 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.800 while and he was out and he's taken off into 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.199 some bushland and we were scanting around with the canine 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.199 and there he was just hiding completely under the water 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.720 with his eyes sticking up topopotamus. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.240 So yeah, it was an easy pinch. But yeah, they do. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:04.920 They hiding some crazy places. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:04.880 All right. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.200 Hide and seek we're going to go into hiding. What 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.160 would be your tips for people in Melbourne listening right 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.520 now to try and track us down because we're a 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.560 step ahead. We do your clues, we're a step ahead 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.240 of the game. We either don't bring our mobiles or 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:21.600 we turn location setting up. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.679 We do. Don't bother with that. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.319 It's you guys did this a little while ago with 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:28.360 the other station. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:29.320 We don't talk about. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:31.480 Around here, yep. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.960 So, And it's funny because a couple of members that 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.360 I know were actually out hunting years now. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.600 The first one you send the song team through that 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:42.280 front door. 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.000 Probably not good endorsement, but I don't think they got 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:49.439 anywhere near you guys. I guess you know, basic for us, 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.160 basic police, and you know, like if they're out trying 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.120 to find you, like talk to people, ask questions. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:54.320 You know. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.640 C C TV these days is huge, So yes, it's 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:58.640 on every corner. 0:10:58.720 --> 0:10:59.480 You can't walk around. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.120 Obviously have access to what other people don't have. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.640 Though, yeah we do obviously we need that, but I 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:09.680 still think it for the for the hide and seek 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:10.320 for your stuff. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:11.280 You know, if the. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.319 Guys get creative or they can influence local shopkeepers and 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:15.440 things to their cameras. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.599 Well, maybe I shouldn't be putting that. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.760 In the day we go hiding, if people were to 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.640 check their cameras, they might see it's walk past their 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:24.720 house to the hiding spot. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:25.360 They might. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:33.079 Idea if we were we are doing hide and seek, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.960 if you could use all of your resources and on 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.880 the day we go missing you we said go how 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.560 quickly do you think as Victoria police you could find 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:43.760 us extremely quickly. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.320 I'd like to think of critical some of the stuff 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.920 we have access to which obviously can't talk about. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.720 Yeah, it enables us to do some pretty crazy stuff. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.520 We've all watched The Hunted. We see those rules, cameras 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:00.640 and all that. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:05.079 We couldn't walk past an ATYM to the safe house, for. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.079 Example, as we would pop up on you pop up. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.120 On a bloody ATM camera. We're gonna be careful for that. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.880 And this is what I say. Cameras are everywhere. You'd 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.880 be surprised, why, says we fine cameras? 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:15.880 We can't go through a drive through on the way there. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.680 That you don't need to tell me twice that's a 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.880 you problem. If he goes missing, he'll be in some 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.480 kind of drive through or takeaway place. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:23.280 Just soon. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:24.679 It's an easy clue. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:25.440 Don't give it all. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.240 So we said, we're not hiding in a hospital, we're 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.520 not hiding in a house, so that rules out like 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.720 airbnb and all that, and we're not hiding in a school, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:36.680 but everywhere else's free game. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:38.040 Should we be. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.400 Bought in field clubrooms? 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:43.000 Stop talking? 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.040 Should we be dressing like head to toe in like 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.720 black clothes with belloclav or something? 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.719 Is that too obvious? Should we be enough we want 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:52.160 to be walking around the street. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.720 I think we often say that covert is over, so 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.400 over it is covert. So I think if you if 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.959 you just we're a tradeing top of floor, trading top, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:00.640 people are going to. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.480 Pick it, which is what people are wearing on hunted. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.559 Remember they dressed up as trading and stuff. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.760 Yes, and because they're everywhere, you're just you. 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.120 Think to see somebody walk down the street in the 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:10.880 trading uniform. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.280 So that you can't with a Luis Vitanzo like you 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.400 got to go boots, You've got to go full trading outfit. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.600 Can't we nice shoes in the bottom and reflected Okay. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:23.320 Thanks, thanks, mate's that well, let's see how long with us? 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.920 Thank you so much for coming in, mate, not and 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.719 thank you for the work the Victorian police do as well. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.920 We love having you guys in trying to find us. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.080 We're talking about earlier. If you're looking for a career, 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:34.720 get into the police force. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.200 If the police work out where we are, send it 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.559 through to our producers and they can contact us and say, 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.320 you guys have been busted by the POPO first of all, Yeah. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.360 Let's not send the swat team our way, all right, 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.000 and Andy to the cops and they come in. Hopefully 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.080 we don't see you soon. 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:57.320 Thank you, Lauren, wake up feeling good on over one 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.080 hundred there on socials 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:04.520 MHM.