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Speaker 1: Play a cool propos in the.

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Speaker 2: House, Lawrence, tell me what's you know?

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Speaker 1: Last week it.

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Speaker 3: Was the dog squads, as I mentioned, they ripped Clint's

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Speaker 3: car apart. This week from the Armed Crime Squad, Detective

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Speaker 3: Sergeant Paul Mulligan, good morning.

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Speaker 4: Morning, damn it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're already in trouble with the police on the

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Speaker 5: there we go, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for coming in, mate, not a problem,

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Speaker 3: so plain closed, detective.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 5: I see the policeman like you freak me out because

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Speaker 5: I feel like I know what I'm getting when I

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Speaker 5: see a man in his police uniform or a woman

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Speaker 5: in her police uniform. But do you guys just float

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Speaker 5: around the community watching everyone wether we do?

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Speaker 6: And I think probably the biggest thing is unless you've

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Speaker 6: been in trouble with the police, or you know you're

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Speaker 6: a victim of serious crime, you won't actually get exposure

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Speaker 6: to police outside of uniform. So we're quite often referred

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Speaker 6: to as the undercover police, which technically.

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Speaker 1: What are your cruising around in these days?

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Speaker 4: Car was I've got a voss Wagon, Tiwan.

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Speaker 5: I've seen the Volkswagen, but you've got so many aerials.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a little discreete but maybe not so much.

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Speaker 3: Actually, you know what, the Queensland Police got in trouble

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Speaker 3: a while back because they were using the family stickers

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Speaker 3: on the back of their undercover cars.

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Speaker 1: People off, yeah, we don't do that here. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, you are part of the arm crime squad, so specifically,

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Speaker 3: what do you investigate?

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Speaker 6: They're right, So typically our day to day work involves

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Speaker 6: non fatal shooting, so firearms incidents where somebody has been

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Speaker 6: injured as a result of a shooting. Kidnappings is something

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Speaker 6: that we quite regularly deal with, and not the sort

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Speaker 6: of stuff you've seen in the movies where there's ransom

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Speaker 6: demands and things. But you know, there's there's a couple

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Speaker 6: of different levels of kidnappings, so the type where you know,

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Speaker 6: somebody might report having somebody dragged into a car from

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Speaker 6: the street something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, correct.

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Speaker 6: So will initially receive those jobs, triaged them, and then

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Speaker 6: generate a response as to how we how will investigate

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Speaker 6: and manage the interview.

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Speaker 3: You've got a family, I do, is it working on

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Speaker 3: a kidnapping case? I could imagine would be quite mentally challenging.

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Speaker 6: It is, it is, and I guess to dispel that

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Speaker 6: he myth that kidnapping is where children are taken.

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Speaker 4: It's nothing generally kidnappings that.

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Speaker 6: We deal with adults quite often you're probably find in

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Speaker 6: that organized crime space or you know, people that are

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Speaker 6: involved in criminal activity will be subjected to kidnappings. We

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Speaker 6: also see incidents where in a family of violence context.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately you'll see that they're a common one that will

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Speaker 6: see on the side of the road where a female

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Speaker 7: So these are terrifying incidents for victims because agbergs as well,

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Speaker 7: there's been a spade of agbergs across. Aggravated burglary sorry

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Speaker 7: where you know there is a weapon involved, it's not discharged.

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Speaker 7: That's used as a threat in seven elevens or where I've.

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Speaker 8: Got a weapon but they don't use it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So as well as doing the non fatal students

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Speaker 6: of kidnappings, we do robberies.

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Speaker 4: We're shots are fired, we do aggravated burglaries.

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Speaker 6: Whereas on a residential property, let's say, where somebody will

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Speaker 6: go in with a firearm, discharge of firearm. So as

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Speaker 6: the name suggesting arm crimes, god, we do deal with

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Speaker 6: a lot of firearms.

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Speaker 5: Are you going out to the crime scenes and looking

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Speaker 5: around or is it like when I would watch Blue

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Speaker 5: Heelers and true crime shows where they sit in an

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Speaker 5: office and put all the pictures in. There's lines pointing at.

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Speaker 4: Things like the TV shirt, very like that. We do

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Speaker 4: do that.

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Speaker 6: I guess the technology has come a little bit further

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's stupid question.

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Speaker 3: But someone someone kicks down my door at seven o'clock

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Speaker 3: at night and they're holding a knife or a gun.

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Speaker 1: Yep, just go with it. Do whatever they say.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's my suggestion.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, Like I think the issue is most of

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Speaker 6: them are coming in unless it's targeted specifically, if they're

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Speaker 6: coming the bridge trying to steal things. You see a

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Speaker 6: lot of thefts of cars and the line it's not

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Speaker 6: worth putting putting yourself on the line for that. If

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Speaker 6: to take. I know that goes against the grain for

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Speaker 6: a lot of people, but let them do what they

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Speaker 3: And I was going to say, is there anything apart

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what helps you find?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all those sorts of things. And I guess that's easy.

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Speaker 6: So afterwards, when we talk to victims, it's sort of like,

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Speaker 6: did you notice anything distinct?

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Speaker 4: But you know, most of them are in.

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Speaker 6: A panic adrenaline rush. It's it's sort of hard for

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Speaker 3: You know, we need we need those stickers like on

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Speaker 3: the door at seven eleven. That's right, put them in

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Speaker 3: our house door.

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Speaker 7: How satisfying is it to catch a bad guy?

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's immensely satisfying. So I guess that's part of

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Speaker 6: the reason why we do what we do. We're really

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Speaker 7: Say you've been hunted, Oh, nice, nicked, that's right.

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Speaker 6: And with the kidnappings and a lot of the work

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Speaker 6: we do, given the nature of the people we deal with,

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Speaker 6: we often knew is the elite Special Operations Group.

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Speaker 4: So the soggis there's a lot of people know it's

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Speaker 4: like swat team. Correct, correct?

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Speaker 6: So I think you know, there's there's no no greater

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Speaker 1: Them, and they they're based in the city.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they are.

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Speaker 3: And is there like soggy Is there a soggy Dash

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Speaker 3: swat team in there twenty four hours ready to act.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So at three o'clock in the morning they can

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Speaker 1: load up there with the Yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 8: You don't want to see them at your front door.

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Speaker 6: Well you wait, they'll come through the front And that's

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Speaker 6: that's necessary because given the work we do, like these

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Speaker 6: things happen in the middle of the night. Yeah, it

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Speaker 6: happens like if we're on coll So every every day

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Speaker 6: we have a detective sergeant on call who will vet

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Speaker 6: and triage kidnapping, shued ins, all sorts of jobs that

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Speaker 8: You get the calls and then you work out what's

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Dis closed my mind that this is going on in Melbourne. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is a scene from a movie.

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Speaker 7: Well, speaking speaking of which four years was four years ago.

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Speaker 7: You're involved in a pretty specky one involving a gold hest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this made the news as well. You might remember

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Speaker 2: Cruz and police scour this rural property in Gippsland, near

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Speaker 2: the aptly named community of Dollar, where gold bully and

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Speaker 2: jewelry and cash were discovered the alleged proceeds of a

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Speaker 2: massive heist. A loaded gun and stolen number plates were

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Speaker 2: also found buried three point nine million dollars worth. The

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Speaker 2: valuables were taken from the Melbourne Gold Company on Collin Street.

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Speaker 8: So they robbed the gold plate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So that's quite a significant incident, obviously, given

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Speaker 4: Of the stuff that was taken.

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Speaker 6: Obviously there's an immense amount of planning that goes into

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Speaker 6: a heist like that. So on face for you. Initially,

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Speaker 6: when we receive a job like that, we'll go out.

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Speaker 6: The local detectives will initially attend the same We'll go

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Speaker 6: with us. That particular job was quite significant given the

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Speaker 6: amount of gold bullion, cash and jury that was stolen.

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Speaker 5: Believe gold bullion's actually I think what is that?

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Speaker 8: Gold bars?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Correct, So it was because when we recovered it, we

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Speaker 4: It's just bliing away. Couldn't stop looking at it.

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Speaker 8: Just on that I will notice if one of these

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Speaker 3: Do you guys make sure you've got another cop with

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Speaker 3: you when you're counting out like seized money.

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Speaker 4: And so we've got processes in place.

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Speaker 6: So and again with technology, the advances in technology, we've

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Speaker 4: That's all Recordings's the.

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Speaker 3: What's the craziest thing you've witnessed? Because remember we only

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Speaker 3: had a robbery just last week here in Melbourne made headlines.

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Speaker 8: With underwear on his head. This is a brief that

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Speaker 2: It's very bizarre in terms of the outfit that was chosen.

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Speaker 1: He committed the crime in unders on his head, he did, he.

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Speaker 4: Did good like brief that's confused police.

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Speaker 6: And I guess as funny as that job made, but

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Speaker 6: We've got victims. You know, we have a person who

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Speaker 8: Terrifying.

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Speaker 1: What about a dumb crim you were to come across.

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Speaker 8: I love thoselines. Is this Melbourne's do criminal?

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Speaker 6: We often laugh because you know, we don't catch the

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Speaker 6: smart ones, although we like to think we do.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like that.

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Speaker 6: Our work, like I say, it is targeted to that

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Speaker 6: more organized crime sort of stuff where there's a lot

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Speaker 6: more planning, but not as dumb correct guy.

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Speaker 5: Would bear a dumb criminal. I hear these things and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I would never even think to do that.

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Speaker 5: My brain just doesn't go there.

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Speaker 3: So if I have to go onto the bank, I

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Speaker 3: look around while I'm waiting in line. Probably shouldn't say

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Speaker 3: this in front of you, Paul, but I I had

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Speaker 3: to do it.

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Speaker 1: How do I do it?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Well you wouldn't because banks aren't really carrying money anymore.

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Speaker 5: But you can't even get into a bank. Are there

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Speaker 5: any banks open anymore?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That funny little concierge come up and go how can

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Speaker 3: I help you? Hey, we're going to go to a

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Speaker 3: quick break. We are doing probe the Poe po. We

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Speaker 3: have a detective from the Armed Crime Squad joined us

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Speaker 3: this morning. On the other side of this. We want

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Speaker 3: to get your help for Melbourne to try and track

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Speaker 3: us down and our two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: hide and seek, and we'll do it next pol We

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Speaker 3: are about to embark on our two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars Hide and seek, Melbourne's biggest game of hide

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Speaker 3: and seek, and people can come and find us. It's

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Speaker 3: all thanks to our mates at Alexis. You can make

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Speaker 3: a dynamic entrance with the Lexus lb X City suv

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Speaker 3: at Lexis of brighton the pan Highway.

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Speaker 1: Mention that to the guy's Victorian police, I'll get your

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Speaker 7: You must find criminals in some funny old places. I

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Speaker 7: believe you once found a bad guy hiding in a dam,

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Speaker 7: but wasn't doing a great job of concealing his identity.

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Speaker 4: No, that's right, So we find him in all sorts

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Speaker 6: But this particular incident, we chased the calf for a

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Speaker 6: while and he was out and he's taken off into

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Speaker 6: some bushland and we were scanting around with the canine

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Speaker 6: and there he was just hiding completely under the water

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Speaker 6: with his eyes sticking up topopotamus.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was an easy pinch. But yeah, they do.

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Speaker 4: They hiding some crazy places.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: Hide and seek we're going to go into hiding. What

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Speaker 3: would be your tips for people in Melbourne listening right

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Speaker 3: now to try and track us down because we're a

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Speaker 3: step ahead. We do your clues, we're a step ahead

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Speaker 3: of the game. We either don't bring our mobiles or

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Speaker 3: we turn location setting up.

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Speaker 8: We do. Don't bother with that.

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Speaker 4: It's you guys did this a little while ago with

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Speaker 4: the other station.

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Speaker 8: We don't talk about.

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Speaker 1: Around here, yep.

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Speaker 6: So, And it's funny because a couple of members that

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Speaker 6: I know were actually out hunting years now.

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Speaker 3: The first one you send the song team through that

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Speaker 6: Probably not good endorsement, but I don't think they got

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Speaker 6: anywhere near you guys. I guess you know, basic for us,

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Speaker 6: basic police, and you know, like if they're out trying

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Speaker 6: to find you, like talk to people, ask questions.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: C C TV these days is huge, So yes, it's

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Speaker 6: on every corner.

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Speaker 4: You can't walk around.

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Speaker 5: Obviously have access to what other people don't have.

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Speaker 6: Though, yeah we do obviously we need that, but I

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Speaker 6: still think it for the for the hide and seek

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Speaker 6: for your stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, if the.

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Speaker 6: Guys get creative or they can influence local shopkeepers and

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Speaker 6: things to their cameras.

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Speaker 4: Well, maybe I shouldn't be putting that.

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Speaker 3: In the day we go hiding, if people were to

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Speaker 3: check their cameras, they might see it's walk past their

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Speaker 3: house to the hiding spot.

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Speaker 8: They might.

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Speaker 5: Idea if we were we are doing hide and seek,

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Speaker 5: if you could use all of your resources and on

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Speaker 5: the day we go missing you we said go how

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Speaker 5: quickly do you think as Victoria police you could find

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Speaker 5: us extremely quickly.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to think of critical some of the stuff

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Speaker 6: we have access to which obviously can't talk about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it enables us to do some pretty crazy stuff.

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Speaker 8: We've all watched The Hunted. We see those rules, cameras

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Speaker 8: and all that.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't walk past an ATYM to the safe house, for.

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Speaker 8: Example, as we would pop up on you pop up.

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Speaker 1: On a bloody ATM camera. We're gonna be careful for that.

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Speaker 6: And this is what I say. Cameras are everywhere. You'd

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Speaker 6: be surprised, why, says we fine cameras?

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Speaker 1: We can't go through a drive through on the way there.

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Speaker 5: That you don't need to tell me twice that's a

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Speaker 5: you problem. If he goes missing, he'll be in some

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Speaker 5: kind of drive through or takeaway place.

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Speaker 8: Just soon.

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Speaker 4: It's an easy clue.

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Speaker 1: Don't give it all.

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Speaker 3: So we said, we're not hiding in a hospital, we're

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Speaker 3: not hiding in a house, so that rules out like

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Speaker 3: airbnb and all that, and we're not hiding in a school,

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Speaker 3: but everywhere else's free game.

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Speaker 8: Should we be.

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Speaker 4: Bought in field clubrooms?

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Speaker 1: Stop talking?

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Speaker 5: Should we be dressing like head to toe in like

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Speaker 5: black clothes with belloclav or something?

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Speaker 8: Is that too obvious? Should we be enough we want

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Speaker 8: to be walking around the street.

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Speaker 6: I think we often say that covert is over, so

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Speaker 6: over it is covert. So I think if you if

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Speaker 6: you just we're a tradeing top of floor, trading top,

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Speaker 6: people are going to.

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Speaker 3: Pick it, which is what people are wearing on hunted.

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Speaker 3: Remember they dressed up as trading and stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and because they're everywhere, you're just you.

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Speaker 4: Think to see somebody walk down the street in the

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Speaker 4: trading uniform.

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Speaker 3: So that you can't with a Luis Vitanzo like you

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Speaker 3: got to go boots, You've got to go full trading outfit.

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Speaker 1: Can't we nice shoes in the bottom and reflected Okay.

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Speaker 8: Thanks, thanks, mate's that well, let's see how long with us?

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming in, mate, not and

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Speaker 3: thank you for the work the Victorian police do as well.

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Speaker 4: We love having you guys in trying to find us.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about earlier. If you're looking for a career,

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Speaker 3: get into the police force.

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Speaker 5: If the police work out where we are, send it

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Speaker 5: through to our producers and they can contact us and say,

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Speaker 5: you guys have been busted by the POPO first of all, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let's not send the swat team our way, all right,

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Speaker 3: and Andy to the cops and they come in. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: we don't see you soon.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Lauren, wake up feeling good on over one

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Speaker 8: hundred there on socials

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Speaker 6: MHM.