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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the

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Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring, and today I'm

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Speaker 1: recording on gaddigul Land. Now I somehow manage to build

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Speaker 1: an empire from the garage underneath my house, and I'm

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Speaker 1: here to share it all with you, from the winds,

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Speaker 1: the mistakes, the challenging times and the funny moments in between. So,

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Speaker 1: whether you're in business already, perhaps you're not in the

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Speaker 1: game at all, Maybe you're just looking for some inspo,

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Speaker 1: or you simply just want to hear the tea, this

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Speaker 1: is the podcast for you. Coming up on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: I am joined by none other than Janine Alice. I

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Speaker 1: honestly feel like Janine needs no introduction, but she's the

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Speaker 1: founder of Boost Juice, the co owner of Yochi, and

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Speaker 1: a woman who's built an empire in thongs while raising

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Speaker 1: a family and still somehow making time to star on

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Speaker 1: Survivor twice. Janine is one of Australia's most recognizable entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 1: and today she's joining me to talk about the grit

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Speaker 1: hustle and maybe a few hidden alliances that have taken

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Speaker 1: her from the kitchen table to nine hundred plus stores worldwide.

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Speaker 1: Do you never get sick of talking about Boost?

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Speaker 2: I think it's like do you get sick of talk

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Speaker 2: about your kids? Yeah, So I think the answer is no,

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Speaker 2: because it's this part of yea, you created your kids,

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Speaker 2: you created the business, so I think it's always part

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Speaker 2: of you. So no, and still super proud of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many businesses have been around twenty five years?

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Speaker 1: I always say this, like, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: to have a business that's been around, you know, for

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, I just think that's absolutely amazing. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have to start this episode talking

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Speaker 1: about Boost because you've honestly created such a legacy. And

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Speaker 1: you know, when I was a teenager, Boost was like

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Speaker 1: such a big part of like my teenage years. And

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Speaker 1: I'm from Newcastle and so we had well we still

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Speaker 1: escalator there. I don't know if you do, know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go to Boost to get my Mango Magic. And I

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Speaker 1: remember I always used to look at all the young

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Speaker 1: isn't that so bloody awesome that you have created something

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, look you do you sort of stop and

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Speaker 2: think you've changed a habit. I mean, smoothis we kind

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Speaker 2: It is quite extraordinary and you know, super proud of

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Speaker 1: Yes to really, you're not going there bashing the remember

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Speaker 2: nice to be able to, you know, still see that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And isn't that so amazing? And I see you

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Speaker 1: And then I see like cool campaigns that Boost is

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Speaker 1: I absolutely love that. Was there a moment for you

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Speaker 2: When you're doing business and you're growing quickly, you never

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Speaker 2: So I'm very humble. Business is very humbling, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: How have you dealt with that feeling in business? Like

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Speaker 1: I myself, I'm like nearly eight years into my business

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Speaker 1: often get that feeling that you're never fully satisfied because

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Speaker 2: Always? You think? Like I remember Jeff Harris was an

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh god, we're so little because you're comparing

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Speaker 2: So you never I think life is about, you know,

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Speaker 2: how can I be the best version of myself? How

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Speaker 2: how do we continue to grow? Businesses have to grow.

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Speaker 2: If you're not growing you're going backwards, yes, and that's forever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is never ending. No, what would your advice

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Speaker 1: Like, what do you think it was that made you

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Speaker 2: It's always everything. Yeah, it's always everything you've got to get.

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Speaker 2: There's no point doing really fun campaigns and the services. Shit,

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Speaker 2: get everything right, and you've got to fight for every

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Speaker 2: create the culture that is right and the people are right,

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Speaker 2: and so you got Yeah, and that's why sort of

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Speaker 2: only okay, right, and you know, you're only as good

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Speaker 2: and I can you know people listening to this because

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Speaker 2: if you're obviously there are people who are into business. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there's never a time that you'll turn around and say,

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Speaker 2: Right, it's always, oh my god, because you get the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. For me, one

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Speaker 1: wrong with finances. But when it comes to staff, we

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Speaker 2: Always because you know, like people evolve too.

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Speaker 1: Me too. I actually had one of my team members

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, and you've got to celebrate those moments

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Speaker 2: I never celebrate the successes. And if anyone listening this,

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Speaker 1: Whatever negative review someone post it a TikTok and getting

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Speaker 2: Correct, So really celebrate and lean into the positivity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like to have a winds folder at fate

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Speaker 1: and so like whenever our staff achieves something, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: a random question, but has there ever been a misconception

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Speaker 2: I think the key thing is, ultimately you're going to

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Speaker 2: Those horror movies. Don't go through the door.

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Speaker 2: Look with Survivor, anyone who sits here and sees that

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, it's first of all, I need to find

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Speaker 1: little spots. Yeah, having little like whispering over the side of.

438
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 2: The shoulder, Yes, totally.

439
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 1: And how big is the space that you're actually in,

440
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 1: Like when you go for a little walk. You can

441
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 1: go for walks, you can go far.

442
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can kind of there's like over there at

443
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 2: the rocks or over there at the well, or there's

444
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,679
Speaker 2: there near.

445
00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,400
Speaker 1: The fire, and like you don't want to be spotted

446
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 1: with someone and then have other people see well, no

447
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:15,439
Speaker 1: the thing.

448
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's all that's all of that because it's

449
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 2: a game of paranoia, so you do. But you also

450
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 2: because they're all past players, it's not like it's like

451
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 2: Luke coming have a play or come on, we might

452
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: as have a chat, you know, paved like you just

453
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 2: kind of you just kind of lean into it one

454
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 2: on ones. Yeah, but you ultimately have to just trust

455
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 2: your people. And so for me it was like, okay,

456
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 2: Luke where because there was a seasoning I think I

457
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 2: don't know if it showed it, but I think episode

458
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,680
Speaker 2: two or three, you know, Luke didn't get on one knee,

459
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 2: but basically said, you know, can we be at the

460
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 2: other's people? And I went, yeah, we can, and so

461
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 2: then we sort of then from there and I went, okay,

462
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 2: I've got your back.

463
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 1: You knew.

464
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

465
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 1: Would you say that The Survivor is like ultimately a

466
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: game of strategy over anything.

467
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 2: No, it's a game of social Wow, it's the challenges, whatever.

468
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: The physical challenges. I'm watching you to carry all these

469
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 1: heavy things.

470
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, the physical challenges gives you an edge

471
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: because if you win, you're not voted out. So that's

472
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: what it does. But it is a social game for foo,

473
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,239
Speaker 2: first and foremost is relationships. Like if it's because it's

474
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 2: a voting people, it's a popularity competition, you know, so

475
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: it's but also it's how do I who do I

476
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 2: need to vote out to get me one step closer

477
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 2: to my goal of being and all you can all

478
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: you can aim for is to be in the final three.

479
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 2: That's all you can aim for.

480
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: What's the single biggest similarity, if any, between Survivor and Business.

481
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's you know, we talked about relationships before.

482
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's having the right people on the right roles.

483
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 2: Like so we talk about season one where I had

484
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: Pia Miranda, who was so you don't get a better

485
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: social player than he is, She's incredible. Then yeah, I

486
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,239
Speaker 2: had Abby who was the challenge beast, and then I

487
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 2: was a strategy So we had a team of people

488
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 2: to get to our goal, which was getting deep into

489
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: the game. Business is the same. You've got to get

490
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: different type of personalities in business to get to your goal. Like,

491
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 2: if you're an AFL team, you're not going to get

492
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: a whole lot of ruckman Like, there's no point having

493
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: a whole lot of seven foot guys in the middle.

494
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 2: You need the fast ones, you need the tall ones,

495
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: you need the defenders, you need the attackers. Business is

496
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: the same. You need a mix of people to get

497
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: to your goal.

498
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: How would you say being in Survivor feels in comparison

499
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: to being a boss like on the outside world.

500
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a comparison. I think it's two

501
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: completely different these.

502
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

503
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 2: I think in actual fact, you need to be the

504
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 2: antithesis of a boss in Survivor. You need to be Hey,

505
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: I'm collaborative.

506
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm not the boss here.

507
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm not the boss here. We're here to work together.

508
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: Let's get to the end together. Oh, that's a great idea.

509
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 2: Do you want to vote them out? You can vote

510
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,719
Speaker 2: them out. I'm fine.

511
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: So it's not about being like the head honcho in Survivor.

512
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: It's being adaptable. Yeah, it's being adaptable and falling into

513
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: the right places, like, oh, I'll have in my head

514
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: who I want to go and I will say to someone,

515
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 2: who do you think and if they use that name,

516
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm supportive of that. If they don't, I'll go, hey,

517
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: I really love that idea. But just another thought is

518
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: have you considered this? And then you know you just

519
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: kind of it's more with suggestion. Survivor yep is more

520
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: than but you know, playing with Luke, Luke was sort

521
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: of a little bit of a crazy man, and so

522
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to keep him with me. Even

523
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: though he's with me, it was like, he wanted to

524
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: play these games. We have a path to the income

525
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: to stick with.

526
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: It, trust me, stop it, come back? You got any

527
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: more Survivor questions? Producer X, I know you're a.

528
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 3: Big Fanah, I'm nerding out right, I'm completely nerding out.

529
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 3: What would you say was the biggest difference from playing

530
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: the first time till this time?

531
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good question and a question, right,

532
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: so when you're playing fifty days compared to fourteen days,

533
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: because this was a short one, right, So it was like,

534
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: so what happens is you get on and you start

535
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: to just to get to know people, right, No, it's

536
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: sort of frowned on to you know, to game too early.

537
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: Right.

538
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: This game was crazy like day one. It was second one.

539
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Forget day one. It was like the second so I

540
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: did the Hey, it's going to rain tonight, let's get

541
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: the shelter up. We landed, everyone went wushka. Everyone just

542
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: went and I was like, it was like I felt

543
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 2: like I was on a running race and they went

544
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: go and everyone ran and I was still sitting to

545
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: go what everyone's gone? And so it was super fast paced.

546
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: So it was crazy, and it was like people went,

547
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 2: two weeks, we can go with that food, two weeks

548
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: we go with that shelter. Like it was like no, no, no,

549
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: we need shelter. Two weeks a long time. Come on,

550
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: let's build a shelter. We kind of need to eat sometimes.

551
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was it was all about

552
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: the game. And because every single person was a player

553
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: and a and and some of them multiple players, like

554
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: someone like your Poverty or a Sore or you know

555
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: or Tony who have played heaps of them, that was

556
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: straight into you know, who's who's my people?

557
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: It was Yeah, it was really interesting watching that first

558
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: episode and watching Poverty completely just play the games social

559
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: games so well, getting information out of people without them

560
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: saying the information. It was masterful. What would you say,

561
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 3: is was the most surprising thing you saw in people's

562
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: games that you kind of weren't expecting.

563
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: I didn't. I wasn't sure that George was what I thought.

564
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 2: It wasn't sure he was playing a character or he

565
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: is the character. So I kind of went, he is

566
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: the character. That was because I kind of went, I

567
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: can't be that, and he is. I quite like George, though,

568
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: but oh my god, living with him, oh lord, I

569
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 2: don't know. I think, you know, Kobe was no. Everyone

570
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: was what who were expected to. I love Shari, love her.

571
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: I mean she was just someone I just could just

572
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: cuddle up in her arms, and you know, she was gorgeous.

573
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: And Pave and I got along really well too, so

574
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: they were really nice. And I didn't know because I

575
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: didn't know them. I didn't know what to expect. As

576
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't meet Tony and I didn't meet Rob.

577
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: But on our side, you know, Seanie, she was sweet.

578
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: I didn't actually know what she was like, but I

579
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: really liked her. She was sort of just a really

580
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: felt for her because she was a young mum and

581
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: really missing her baby, so that was really tough for her,

582
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: but you know, she was a real trooper. And then Luky.

583
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: I've played with Luky before, so I kind of I

584
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: knew him and David quite well. But equally I voted

585
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: David out in our season and Luke voted me out

586
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: him in the season. So there was a little bit

587
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 2: of oh, how's this going to play?

588
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: On?

589
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: Bit of tention, how's this going to go?

590
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: I think the biggest question that me and Britt have

591
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: been talking about is like, you're so successful in business,

592
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: and if I had so much success in your life,

593
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: what made you want to do Survivor? And also what

594
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: made you want to come back?

595
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: But if someone says to you, right, you know, in

596
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: life's about an adventure, right, Life's about travel, Life's about

597
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: living life. If someone says, hey, do you want to

598
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: come on an island and you know, really test yourself.

599
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: You know there's challenges, there's social You put your phone

600
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: away for a few days, right or a few weeks

601
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: or months and you know and have a crack. How

602
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: can you say no to that? If you want to

603
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: really go you know, I'm gonna sit on my deathbed

604
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: and go I've really lived a full life and you

605
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: get this opportunity, how would you? And Survivor honestly was

606
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: probably the best and worst time in my.

607
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: Life, right, wow?

608
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: Why this season now?

609
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: No?

610
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: No survive Probably the first reasons, not the second. I

611
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: think it was because the first you know you you

612
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: are sleeping like it's it's real survivor, isn't this? You

613
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: know hi, and there's a hotel, he's a pillow, right,

614
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: you are.

615
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: Just sleeping out in the wild, and you're literally in

616
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: a sleeping shot. So I'm like, what, I don't.

617
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: Trust me when you sit You're the person sitting on

618
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 2: the island going way am I sleeping? And it's cold

619
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: and it rains, and you're at the elements and you

620
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: are hungry, and it's it's just tests you on every

621
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 2: element and you become very primal. It's really interesting how primal,

622
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: and in some respects after merge, if you're there, I

623
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: reckon after day about twenty one twenty two, people go mad,

624
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: like off their head bad, and it's really it's so exciting.

625
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: You feel alive because why wouldn't you say yes to that?

626
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you? I don't understand anyone that would say

627
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: no to that experience. I don't get it. I don't

628
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: get that people would do that. And people go, oh,

629
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to get wet, Well you get.

630
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: Wet the day, go in my hair wet.

631
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think, why did I come back? I mean,

632
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: in fairness, I mean blessed Survivor of gods. They asked

633
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: me to come back on a number of times and

634
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm like no, But then they go, it's Survivor worse

635
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: as the world, right, and it's fourteen days and it's

636
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: you know, it's you go, oh, okay more and yeah

637
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: that was you know a few months ago that it

638
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: filmed it and it's come and gone and I've done

639
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: it and it was fun and I got to meet

640
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: a whole lot of people I've never met before. And

641
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: you know, so I can't understand why people say, no, what's.

642
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: The biggest thing you've taken from this to like back

643
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: in your life outside the game? Yeah?

644
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Probably, It's interesting. I think the two weeks for me

645
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: was a doddle in some respects, you know, because it

646
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: wasn't like it was, but the fourteen the forty four

647
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: days where you do, like, you know, I lost ten kilos,

648
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: you come out a little bit twisted, right, Yeah, A

649
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: bit withered and twisted. I came out. You've become very grateful,

650
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: like you get like like even now if I'm in bed,

651
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, cuddle lap and it's raining, I'm really grateful

652
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: for a roof, Like I'm grateful that I can open

653
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: a fridge. I'm grateful for a cup of tea, Like

654
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: you get very grateful, and you know so I you know,

655
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: I recommend anyone who, if they ever get a chance

656
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: to do it, to do it.

657
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Onto. Like entrepreneurship, obviously you're a very yes person because

658
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you've done everything and you continue to

659
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: do more and more. What is the importance of like

660
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: being a yes person when it comes to being an

661
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and being in business.

662
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think if you're in business and you're a

663
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: no person, you shouldn't be in business. I agree, you know,

664
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: I think I think that yes gives you opportunities. Yes,

665
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: got me on Survivor, you know, Yes, got me on

666
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Shark Tank. Yes, made me sell my house and convest

667
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: in the business. Right, So you've got to be I

668
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: think you've got to be positively skewed, not needed to

669
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: be skewed, because business will throw a lot of things

670
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: at you, and you can wither away and just go

671
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: it's too hard, which sometimes that's yourselves. You will want

672
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: to But but just by saying yes with opportunities, you

673
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: see things that other people don't. And that's what entrepreneurs do.

674
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: So you might get an email and someone in your

675
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: team will go, no, thank you. You go, oh stop,

676
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: let me look at that email, because actually that's it.

677
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: Let's let's investigate that. I'm believing. You know how Australians

678
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: are year nah right, right? You know, a yeah nah right,

679
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: which is really confusing for anyone who's not Autralian. Yeah,

680
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: I can imagine because it's really on nanswer. I think

681
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: in life you should be a year person, not a

682
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: nah yeah. And the reason being is that you should

683
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: say yes to nearly everything until there's a reason to

684
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: say no. Right, So you say yes, I will answer

685
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: that email. Investigator, investigat investigate. It may go somewhere really exciting,

686
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: or it may go nowhere, but at least you're a

687
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: yes first to see where it goes. And you know,

688
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, if you're single and you want

689
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: to meet someone, it's like, you know, really you want

690
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: to stay in your Jarmi's and watch the Netflix, but

691
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: say yes, and then you meet someone you go, actually,

692
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: it might be a yeah until you meet them properly

693
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: and they go nah, right. So I think that, but

694
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: it has to be yes first.

695
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: I've also found that by saying yes to things, like

696
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: I've said yes you're a lot of things, like in

697
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: my teenage years and in my early and mid twenties,

698
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: I've found the more that I've said yes to things,

699
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: the more opportunities have then like come my way. Like

700
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm not overly like woo woo or anything, but I

701
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: do believe like if you are just continuously saying yes

702
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: to things, putting yourself out there, trying new things, the

703
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: more opportunities somehow just seem to come your way. I

704
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: think the universe works in ways like that. Yeah.

705
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: I think also, you know there is events you go

706
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: to and you go, O, why am I here?

707
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: Right?

708
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: There is definitely that, And normally the ones you think

709
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: are going to be good are the ones you go,

710
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: oh my god, what am I here?

711
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: And there?

712
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: And there's other ones you go to and you just

713
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: happen to sit next to someone who is fascinating and

714
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: then you start to speak to them and they like

715
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: I'll give you my card, and there's an opening to

716
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: a door that you would never have had. And I've

717
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: had many events that I've gone to and gone. I

718
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: really would rather stick needles in my eye than go

719
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: to this event and then actually gone, Actually I had

720
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: a really good night. So yeah. But I honestly believe

721
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: that if you go to those those big events with

722
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 2: hundreds of tables, the best table is the one closest

723
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: to the door, because then you just go, see backdoor.

724
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to the toilets normalized, just backdooring and be

725
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: like see ya, see ya.

726
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Actually, what I love about getting older I now go.

727
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: I mean people who know me aren't going if we

728
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: go for dinner, mate, it's five thirty and I'm by

729
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: eight thirty, and I've got a whole group of people

730
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: just go. We love five thirty dinners.

731
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm all about the five thirty dinner too. I'm thirty

732
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: two and I'm all for like a five thirty six

733
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: pm booking mate. Perfect. You can still have your wines

734
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and have your good chats and then you're home by nine.

735
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe that I used to go out at

736
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: like eleven pm.

737
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: I have dinner at nine, do you sander, Yeah, I

738
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: go to the gym and then I come home.

739
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, if you go to the gym and then

740
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: you're awake, the only problem is then if I have

741
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: dinner at nine. Sleep is really important, and the sleep

742
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: before midnight's better, and then the sleep after midnight.

743
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: Don't tell me that because I've got about at midnight.

744
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

745
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: And then and then you're because you're eating at nine.

746
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: Your your digestion is keeping you awake and you're not

747
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: getting calledy sleep. When you get older, sleep will be

748
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: more important.

749
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: I always see videos of like I've been seeing videos

750
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: pop up on my TikTok lately of kids coming up

751
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: with every excuse under the sun to not go to bed,

752
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: and like the parents are filming the kid and they're like, no,

753
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: I can't because like and they're just in your room,

754
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: like saying silly things to try to not go to bed,

755
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, if only they knew, like how much

756
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: you would value going to bed early when you're older.

757
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: I know, like if i'd known, I'd be like, absolutely,

758
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to bed. You can tuck me in, And

759
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: how good would that be?

760
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: I know, Well, look i am I'm a five o'clock

761
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: get up out of bed right. So so by eight

762
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: o'clock I'm like, oh my god, I'm really ready to

763
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: go to bed, right, But I still have the same

764
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: amount of sleep, but my clock's just that way. Yes,

765
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: but there is something really special about sunrise, yeah, and

766
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: being out of because I like to surf in the morning,

767
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: so paddling out, you know, even with its raining and

768
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: the sunrises, it's magic. I still do this day. I

769
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: think it's just the best thing in the world.

770
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: I need to do that. I've never gone surfing in

771
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: my life. When I live in Newcastle, I need to

772
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: do it.

773
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: You should do it.

774
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: I need to And I I went to like a

775
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: school right near the beach and all the kids did

776
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: the surfest and everything, and I was.

777
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: Always like I took surfing up at forty Wow. So

778
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: this still time.

779
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: It's never too late to start something new. Okay, let's

780
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: talk about Yochi for a second. I've never had yochi

781
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: because I'm from Newcastle and we don't have it. But

782
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: you just said it's coming to newcastleing Charlestown Square.

783
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: I think it's that one.

784
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: It's either Charlestown or Qatara. If it's one or the other.

785
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: Like Yochi again has just absolutely blown up everywhere, and

786
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: again like it's a concept that was obviously around before.

787
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Like thinking back to my childhood, there was all like

788
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: yogurt pros and yogurt shops. Do you feel like you've

789
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: been able to kind of take everything that you've learned

790
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: from Boost and kind of help to put that into Yochi.

791
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: I'd like to take all the credit for Yochi, but

792
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: it's very much my husband's sons and I sort of

793
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: work on the side. I'm still doing international and stuff.

794
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: But the key thing with Yochi is that it's a

795
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: large format dessert place and it's a place so you

796
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: can come and create your own product. Yeah, and I've

797
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: got i say, you know, certainly my husband and my

798
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: son have incredible marketing brains and enable to really lean

799
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: into social media and the fun aspect of it to

800
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 2: create this incredible brand. But it's a meeting place. Yeah,

801
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: it's a first date place. So they're deliberately large format.

802
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: So they're not like an ice cream shot where you

803
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: go in and grab it and walk out. It's you

804
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: sit down and hang Yeah, you sit down with your friends,

805
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's there's there's a disco ball in every store, right,

806
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: who doesn't love a.

807
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: Disco ball exactly?

808
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Right, So it's very much a it's a meeting place

809
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: where but but everyone loves it because you create what

810
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: you love, you make your own product. So no, that's

811
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: why it works.

812
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: Did you see the person recently? I don't know if

813
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: it's in Melbourne. I don't know if it's in Sydney.

814
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: But they've done like kind of like the whole the

815
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: same sort of setup but for hot chips.

816
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was in NUSA.

817
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've done like self serve hot chips and

818
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: then you make them up however you want. And it

819
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: was like the same sort of thing how you go around,

820
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: not like they're copying Yosi. Well, I'm excited for Yochi

821
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: to come to Newcastle. Have yo yo chi Zander.

822
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: I've never had Yochi.

823
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: How many stores are here in Sydney?

824
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: Where do you live?

825
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: Across the road from here?

826
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: Is Surrey close, Surry Hills, Yeah, cheky light rail on walk,

827
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: Surrey Hills, Double Bay. Oh, Barangaroo, Oh okay, that's closer.

828
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

829
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: Barragaroo is a beautiful stort. It's massive and it's right

830
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: on the corner. Okay, so yeah, go to that one.

831
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: We don't have to go to Bangaroo, but we're gonna have.

832
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: To go on on a yoachi day and the people

833
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: always like lined up outside, Like do you see stuff

834
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: like that and think that's amazing?

835
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: I think it's good. Yeah, you're probably just used to it,

836
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, But yeah, go to Barangaroo. That's actually Surry

837
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: is good to but you're closest Barangaroo. I think, cram.

838
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: Cramon, What's what should I get?

839
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

840
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually the good news is whatever you like. I

841
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: love that personally. My my one is like signature tart

842
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: and the the butterscotch one, and then on it I

843
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: always have strawberries, and then I have there's this something

844
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: called it's called chocolate soil. I sprinkled with that. There's

845
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: normally a chocolate covered pretzel. I have that, the potassio puppy,

846
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: and then the white sauce which goes hard. Oh god,

847
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: this Soundso I have that, and then I might have

848
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: some kiwheeze, or if in season, I have finger limes,

849
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: which are these beautiful little Australian.

850
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 3: Ytube pearls you just sold Australia.

851
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: Well that's my one I have.

852
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: I've written down a couple of rapid fire questions for you. Yep,

853
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: what is the worst job you've ever had before?

854
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: Boost selling time share in Portugal? What you know the

855
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: timeshare hotels? So I was twenty one on the street

856
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: and I had an Australian tat flag and I would

857
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: encourage people to go and have a good time shares

858
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: so that they would buy them and I would get

859
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: money if every time someone went and had look at it.

860
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: So commission only, commission only. I was very hungry.

861
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: How many jobs did you have?

862
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Like hundreds?

863
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: Really?

864
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: I was. I started off as I picked Strawberry is

865
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: a check out Chicken Target. I worked in advertising. I

866
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: was a nanny in France. I've worked on David Bowi's

867
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: yacht timeshare. I worked a gym instructor. I was adoor

868
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: bitch Chevron, Sorry for if I didn't let you in,

869
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: A publicist, cinema manager. I have lots of yoga instructing

870
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: your name, and I've done it.

871
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Would you say that you were doing all of those

872
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: to try and find what it was that gave you

873
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: joy or you just did you love them all? Did

874
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: you hate them all?

875
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: No, I said yes, until I said no, Yeah, like,

876
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: oh try that, well no, oh try that? Oh no.

877
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a trend with entrepreneurs that they've

878
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: had like this crazy life before they got into business

879
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: of just trying absolutely everything.

880
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just go. I think you just

881
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: understand that there's a path to get to what you want.

882
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 2: But if you don't actually keep working on that path,

883
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: you'll never get there.

884
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Okay, another rapid fire question for you. A dream all

885
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: star team three people could be from business, survivor or

886
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: anywhere to be in your alliance. Who's in your dream teams?

887
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Be pr because she's just my go to Pierre Shan Lydia.

888
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: Do you like that? I do like that.

889
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: That's that's solid.

890
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: It is because Lydia is a challenge beast. Sean and

891
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: Pierre are social, so we can.

892
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: Sean also has a vengeance like she she's ready to win.

893
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: So she's she'll define and conquer, so she'll So there's

894
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: they're good. But I didn't know the challenge bes I've

895
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: got Abby in my back pocket, and then and then

896
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: may I can sort of help sort of put it,

897
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: pull it all together. So yeah, that would we would

898
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: kill it.

899
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 3: You'd be a great voice of reason.

900
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: I would be reason. So that would be my That

901
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: would be my pick up of one.

902
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: Last Boost question women weirdest customer request Boost has ever had.

903
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Speaker 1: If you can remember any cheap is.

904
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Speaker 2: No. I can't remember, because I don't think it is weird.

905
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: I think everyone has such such taste. I can't remember.

906
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: We did have a chili smoothie ones really, which was

907
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: really We did it because we thought it was funny,

908
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: like you go, oh it's hot cold, it's hot cold,

909
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: and really messed with people's head. I didn't know if

910
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: it was a hot drink or a cold drink because

911
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: of the chili. It was great.

912
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: Did you do a collub we veggie might as well?

913
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did at one point. That was beautiful drink.

914
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: It was like a sold caramel.

915
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: It was delicious.

916
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: It was a really beautiful drink.

917
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: I think I actually did a sponsored post for that

918
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: back in the day when I was like influencing. I

919
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: think I did. Yeah, so thanks for that, Thanks for

920
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: paying me for that anytime. Okay, Janine, to wrap up,

921
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: I've got a bit of a scenario for you tomorrow.

922
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: You wake up with no contacts that you have currently

923
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: a small amount of money. Let's say ten grand and

924
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: no boost juice. What is the first business you'd start, Oh.

925
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: Only ten grand. I think I would start a something

926
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: online because marketing is probably really effective. Probably online clothes

927
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: higher business. Oh yeah, I just took my daughter to

928
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: Kestle Hill. I saw Australian Victorian castle. I noticed you

929
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: said newcastle before I know it's a Victorian thing for

930
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: Victorians out there. They go, yeah, it's castle, right, what

931
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: are you talking about? I did hear you and New

932
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 2: South Wales go it's castle. So it's not my fault.

933
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: He went to Castle Hill.

934
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: I went to Castle Hill, Castle Hill and my daughter

935
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: went into hire addresses and I went, oh, it's a

936
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: good business. So I think for ten grand, I think

937
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: I would do that.

938
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, go and like buy a bunch of dresses.

939
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: Secondhand and then do that.

940
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Would you do it online? Only? Would online?

941
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? To online?

942
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Online?

943
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: Workout some way. But then again, my son is a

944
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: YouTuber and he's doing really well.

945
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: What kind of it is Is he doing gaming or something?

946
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is major kill and it's it's basically Warhammer.

947
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 2: It's a Warhammer videos he talks about and he's killing it. Wow,

948
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: he's doing really well.

949
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: Who would have thought?

950
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: Who would have thought you.

951
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: Could just play games online and get paid his money

952
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: for it?

953
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: Who thought? What a time to be alive, I know,

954
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: just in time for AI to demonstrate that we're not

955
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: maybe Okay, no, I'm actually joking. I think AI is amazing.

956
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: I think it is too Like all I AI listeners.

957
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: I know people either love it or hate it, but.

958
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: I always think it because when it takes over, it'll

959
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: know I was nice.

960
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you and I will be alive. Everyone else

961
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: destroyed me.

962
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for inching that question.

963
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: On the positive, it will cure disease, will it will

964
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: be quite It will help the earth. It will already

965
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: eliminate humans. But it will.

966
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't it already like discovering cancer? Sooner than it

967
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: will be our current technology?

968
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: Can it?

969
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: Will? It was too fast, yes, too fast. It'll be

970
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: quite good. They'll be. But like anything, when the Internet came,

971
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: it was amazing, And there's negatives, like everything has a

972
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: double edged sword, yep, and you have to have black white.

973
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: You have to have yin yang. You have to. It's

974
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: just part of it.

975
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, to wrap up every episode of Big Business.

976
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: We always end just with a tip of the week.

977
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: It can be life, business, anything in between. I feel

978
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: like you've already given us a thousand tips, But do

979
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: you want to end with another?

980
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

981
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: I think probably the only thing is surround yourself with

982
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: people that lift you up, not drag you down. I

983
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: think that the only way to achieve happiness in life

984
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: is actually with the people around you, right. I don't

985
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: think you can do it on your own. And I

986
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: think that people are in your life and they're not

987
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: serving you, then make a change and really find that,

988
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: you know, really go out of your way to find

989
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: those great people, whether it's in business or it's personal.

990
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: So I think that that that I think is even

991
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: if you've got you look at some super rich people

992
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: that are billionaires and they're just miserable. Right, that's not success.

993
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: No, what is success to you?

994
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: Success is having my family around them, happy, happy to

995
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: be there. You know, success is getting a good wave

996
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: and not fluffing it. Right, success would be weeding survivor.

997
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: So, you know, I think.

998
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: It's success is just you know, it's just really you know,

999
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: it's corny, but just happiness. Really, Yeah, any final survivor

1000
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: questions do you want to know you're dying to y

1001
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: Xander's over here.

1002
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: There's like so we just don't have the time. But

1003
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 3: it is so cool because I've watched every Aussie series,

1004
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: like I love it. And I auditioned l ten who

1005
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 3: are listening, and they didn't take me.

1006
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: This year.

1007
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and they got an email saying we haven't

1008
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: taken you.

1009
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: To be honest, I.

1010
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: Think my audition was a bit intense.

1011
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: That's right, next time from exactly, it's a learning Xander exactly. Yeah. Nah.

1012
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: It's been very cool to talk to, like bettering in

1013
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: the game. So thank you, Pleasure.

1014
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks so much for being on. Janine. When we

1015
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: have a guest on, I'm always like, where can everyone

1016
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: find you? But I feel like, yeah, chat GPT and

1017
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: it will say week you can find exactly. Everyone knows

1018
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: you anyway because you're an absolutely icon. Thank you so

1019
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: much for coming on the pod.

1020
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: Pleasure, Pleasure,