WEBVTT - Sharri | 23 October 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:05.439 Why on Sky News. This is Sharry. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.280 Good Evening and I have a massive show ahead tonight. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.880 Insiders reveal panic in the Albanese government that Trump could 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.400 be about to win the election. The mistake Albanzi has 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.840 already made. More on this story in a minute. Also tonight, 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:28.000 I can exclusively reveal a Jewish SBS journalist is considering 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.959 legal action after the public broadcaster censored interviews that were 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:38.040 positive towards Israel. This includes an interview with Richard Kemp 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:43.040 which SBS completely removed from online. This is an explosive 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.320 story only here in a moment, and Lydia Thorpe accused 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:52.880 of hypocrisy over accepting largess like Chairman's lounge membership, Whilest 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:57.080 slamming the Commonwealth class. I've got the polling pointing to 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.000 a Dutton victory. Upholster will give us the inside. Das 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.039 tells live and an exclusive interview with a world leading 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:09.120 authority on urban warfare. He reveals whether Israel is truly 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.680 committing war crimes. Holly hre Is, Michael Kroger, Graham, Richardson, 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.440 Daniel Melino, John Spencer and Moore Or coming up on 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:22.120 the show. But first, the Albaneze government is getting nervous 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.279 about the possibility of a Trump win, which is looking 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.920 more likely by the day. The race is tight, it 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.039 could go either way, but Trump is inching ahead in 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.600 the seven Swing States. Momentum is now in his favor, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.160 with Kamala Harris bizarrely taking a day off today, just 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.160 two weeks out from the election. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.240 Gooda hell takes off your fourteen days left, and she'll 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.160 take a couple of more days off too. You know why. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.559 She's lazy as hell, and she's got that reputation. She's 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:58.000 a radical left lunatic. She's further left than Bernie Sanders 0:01:58.520 --> 0:01:59.440 or PoCA Hunters. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.280 Labor is now panicking at the thought of a Donald 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.600 Trump presidency. One labour sauce told me today, people were 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.880 relieved that Biden left because they were worried that Trump 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.480 was going to win. They were openly excited about Kamala 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.720 Harris coming in, and now they're worried about Trump again. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.200 Another senior political figure put it more bluntly when he said, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:28.040 and I quote the Albanezy government and defat were where 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.160 you can read the rest of that sentence for yourselves. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.079 Albin Ezi and Donald Trump couldn't be more different. Their 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.200 views on fundamental policy areas just world's apart. This is 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.959 the case for everything from a climate change to Israel, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.960 to immigration to China to energy. Climate change is one 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:55.520 of Albanzi's top concerns, but Trump has previously described climate 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.280 science as a hoax. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.640 Taking advantage all the global transition to net zero. That 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.040 is so important. We have a forty three percent reduction 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.440 target by twenty thirty. That just sided in net zero 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:11.440 by twenty fifty. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.800 That just said, I haven't heard, Mike, I haven't heard. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:19.720 They don't ever talk about the environment anymore. You know why, Mike, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.680 you said, don't talk about it now? No, it's one 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.000 of the great scams of all time. You know why 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:30.079 they don't talk about it because people aren't buying it anymore. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.960 Trump previously pulled out of the Paris Agreement, and he 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.040 could have gained withdraw from international targets. He won't want 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.880 climate to be a major feature of the Quad as 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.119 it has been with Joe Biden and alban Easy. Their 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.720 positions on Israel as well. This is alban Easy and 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:53.200 Trump's couldn't be more different. Trump unequivocally supports Israel. He 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.000 moved America's embassy to Jerusalem during his time in office, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.560 but Albin Easy has spent much of his parliamentary Korea 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:05.080 as an anti Israel campaigner, even yelling into a microphone 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.920 at a pro Palestinian rally. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.840 We encourage all parties to engage constructively to de escalate 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:17.240 the current tensions. International humanitarian war must be respected. We 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:21.040 also reiterate our call for an immediate cease firing Gaza. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:23.120 And when I'm back in the Oval Office, I will 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.040 support Israel's rate to win its war on Terra. They 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.200 have to have a right to win the war, thank you, 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.000 and I will give Israel the support that it needs 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.000 to win, but I do want them to win fairs. 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:38.640 Now, there's already a concerning gap between Alban Easy and 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.240 Joe Biden when it comes to support for Israel. In 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:47.400 one glaring example, the Biden administration was deeply disappointed that 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:52.680 Penniwong refused to vote against that Prohamus resolution that was 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.200 put forward by the Palestinian leadership and the United Nations 0:04:56.400 --> 0:05:01.240 General Assembly recently, and Penniwang, when she was over in 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.760 the States met with the Palestinian leadership, but she didn't 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:10.520 even sit in Congress to listen to Netanyahu's speech. Under Trump, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:15.680 the differences will be even more stark. And then there's immigration. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.560 Trump signed in executive order banning people from six Muslim 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.560 majority countries from entering the US back in twenty twenty, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:30.279 but meanwhile, Anthony Alberezi issued nearly three thousand visas to 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:36.000 Gazans despite serious concerns about security vetting in the Hamas 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.360 controlled territory. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:44.360 A whole group of people who are suffering enormously, something 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.839 that we see on our TV screens every night. We 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:54.800 have when it comes to security processes. We have five 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.400 in our intelligence agents. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.919 We do not need our once great cities to become 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:05.360 hotbeds of terrorism. And on day one of the Trump presidency, 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:10.120 I'm restoring the travel band, suspending refugee admissions, and keeping 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.000 terrorists the hell out of our country like I had 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:13.599 it before. 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.760 If Trump does become president in just under two weeks, 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.960 there'll be deep disappointment in the senior ranks of the 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:26.800 Albanese government. One figure familiar with the Trump camp told 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.800 me today that Trump will be well briefed on how 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.839 left wing Albanzi and Penny Wong have been. They said 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.320 that Trump will have a cursory call with Albinizi, but 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.320 then he won't bother with him because he's got an election. 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.520 He'll think that he's probably going to lose, and everyone 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.760 tells him Dutton is a good guy. In fact, this 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:52.159 told me that Albanzi has already made a mistake because 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.799 he didn't phone Trump after the assassination attempt. Other world 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:02.320 leaders like Keir Starmer did. In fact, the only Australian 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.560 who's spoken to Trump personally in the last year and 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.040 maybe even more, is Scott Morrison. But it's also not 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.520 a good starting point that Albanezy appointed Rudd Kevin Rudd 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.200 as ambassador to the United States, despite the fact he 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.800 described Trump in the past as nuts, a traitor to 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.800 the West and guilty of rancid treachery. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:26.920 And Donald as we know, is not. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:30.520 A leading intellectual force. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.400 Have you looked at a Trump rally and how many 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.640 angry white men there are in those rallies. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.560 Now it has to be said that Rudd is now 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:45.200 working overtime to forge connections in the Republican Party and 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:49.119 I'm told he's making headway. Sure, but what he said 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.520 can't be unset and that's why he wasn't a wise appointment. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:58.000 His past comments might be forgiven, they won't be forgotten 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.240 and this isn't going to help australia national interest. And Trump, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.080 for one, certainly hasn't forgotten them. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.560 I don't know much about him. I heard he was 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.960 a little bit nasty. I hear he's not the brightest bulb. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.480 But I don't know much about him. But if he's 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.320 at all hostile, he will not. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:16.920 Be there long. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.239 One senior figure said to me today that Kevin Rudd 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.000 has put his head down and he's working hard to 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.960 rebuild relationships, but they doubt he'll be invited around for 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:33.160 margaritas at Marilago. The confidence meanwhile, in the Trump camp 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:38.199 is growing. Fourteen days out, Real cleopolling has trumped slightly 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.280 ahead by one point one percent in the seven battleground 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.080 states that will decide the outcome of this election, and 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:51.400 of course that's Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:56.440 and Nevada. And nationally, according to Real Clear Politics, Kamala 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:01.040 Harris does lead by zero point nine percent. Four years ago, 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.160 Joe Biden was ahead at this point in the campaign 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:09.360 by seven point nine percent. That's a major difference. Kamala 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:13.160 Harris has enjoyed a honeymoon period for most of the campaign, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.680 and she initially surged ahead of Biden's position, But in 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.240 recent weeks there've been lingering questions over what she stands for, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.679 how she'd be different from the Biden administration, and there 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.840 are concerns over her ability to deal with media scrutiny. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:35.920 Her performance when under serious questioning from Brett Bayer was disastrous. 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.640 That was pitiful for a presidential candidate. She's failed to 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.840 explain whether she's changed her views from the radical positions 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.680 she took in the past, and this has led to 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.079 devastatingly effective adverts like this one. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:56.240 Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:02.360 Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners, every time transgender in me 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.640 in the prison system would have access. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.560 The polls are close, and there'll be a sigh of 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.640 relief from the Albaneze government if there is a Harris presidency, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.080 but most informed commentators are at this point telling me 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:25.000 they're expecting a narrow Trump victory. Now to our major 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.720 exclusive story tonight, the SBS has censored interviews with prominent 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.960 international figures like Colonel Richard Kemp because they were too 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:39.640 supportive of israel I can Tonight reveal that SBS has removed, edited, 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.760 or refused to run four interviews that presented Israel's side 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.200 of the story, and the public broadcaster has claimed that 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:52.880 they didn't meet their editorial standards. A Jewish SBS journalist 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:57.120 I met Rehak, who did these interviews, is now considering 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:02.400 legal action. He resigned in August. Now. SBS removed from 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:07.160 online an interview that did with distinguished British Commander Richard Kemp, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.080 in which he said that Israel was taking care not 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.920 to kill civilians. Amit also did an interview with a 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:19.800 relative of a hostage, but it was never broadcast. Management 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:23.880 told him he couldn't broadcast it a relative of a hostage. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.640 I also understand that SBS was unhappy with an interview 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:32.679 with an anti Semitism activist from Germany, Oriana Mari Gruger. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.559 SBS management edited amits interview to remove a section where 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.079 she gave her opinion on the Israel Gaza war, saying 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.680 that the state of Israel was being demonized. That was 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.880 her opinion. In a formal letter, the public broadcaster accused 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.439 AMT of a breach of policy, claiming that his interviews 0:11:53.559 --> 0:12:00.520 lacked balance, impartiality and didn't have a wide representation of views. Now, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.240 Richard Kemp is a distinguished figure. He led the British 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:09.880 Army in Iraq and Afghanistan. Like Israel's allies Australia and 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:16.040 the United States, Britain has supported Israel's fight against terror. Now, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.360 I had Richard Kemp in my program when I was 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.880 in Israel, and this is what he said. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.520 The leaders in these Western countries understand the threat, they 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.000 know that Israel's doing the right thing. They're just afraid 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.959 of a country standing up for itself. They've forgotten how 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.240 a country needs to stand up for yourself to survive. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.840 Is that a man who should be censored, who should 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.640 have his whole interview removed from online as SBS did. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.040 We can presume that Richard Kemp did make similarly support 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:51.120 of comments of Israel in his interview with SBS, as 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.040 is his right and even duty as a high profile 0:12:55.120 --> 0:13:01.000 commander who has personally fought terrorism. Ffteen minute interview with 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.920 Kemp did go to air on SBS radio in late May. 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.840 It was published online, but a few hours later was 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:13.880 removed emit later received a formal reprimand from SBS, where 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.839 his managers accused him of a lack of challenging questions 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:23.200 and bias. The letter said the interview lacked impartiality and balance, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.880 had leading questions, and that there was a lack of 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:34.080 representation of multiple perspectives and insufficient critical follow up. This 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:41.400 is extraordinary a journalist respectfully allowing a senior war commander 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.360 to have his say, and he receives a formal letter 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.800 accusing him of breach of employment. We've all seen interviews 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.760 from the ABC and SBS where the journalists don't ask 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:58.320 tough questions and they show anti Israel bias. Yet have 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:03.439 you ever heard of a formal will reprimand before SBS 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.720 tonight In a statement to me, they admitted to the censorship. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.720 They said the two stories you raise were reviewed and 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.440 edited or removed as they did not meet our editorial 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.760 standards of balance and impartiality. They said SBS does not 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.360 take editorial positions and is committed to accuracy, balance and 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.040 impartiality in all its coverage, including in relation to the 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:32.080 current conflict in Israel. Gaza and Lebanon. Now, both SBS 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:36.000 and ABC have published interviews with the likes of Anthony Lowenstein, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:40.520 along with others who are highly critical of Israel, and 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.760 their views are egregious in my view. They often utter 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.440 false accusations against the Jewish state. Now SBS has also 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:56.200 made separate allegations against Omit, which he strongly denies. Amitt 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.480 had worked at the broadcaster for twelve years and he'd 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.920 expect to continue his journalistic career there. He's been distressed, 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:08.280 upset and shocked at the censorship and the allegations. For 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:12.160 three months now, SBS has not broadcast it's Hebrew language 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:18.400 broadcast for the first time in fifty years. SBS admitted this, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.440 and they said to me that it was currently in 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:25.600 recess after emits resignation. They said that resuming this service 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:32.400 was a high priority. All right, Well, to discuss this, 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.880 let's bring in now former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.480 Kroger and former Labor minister Graham Richardson. Welcome to you both. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.600 Now I know you both you're both hearing that story 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.080 for the first time. They're that exclusive report that SBS 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:53.240 has censored interviews, including with world famous British commander Richard Kemp. Michael, 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:54.480 what's your reaction to this? 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.200 Well, it's extremely distressing. In the SBS response, show will 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:01.560 have to be a lot stronger than the one they 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.640 gave you tonight. I've met Richard Camp, he's been in Australia. 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:09.520 I've seen a film he produced. He's an outstanding commentator. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.440 His will record is, as you said, well known. It's 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:20.680 distressing because SBS, much like the ABC, appears to be 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.200 wandering into this territory that anything that is seen to 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.720 be pro Israel or defending Israel is seen to be 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:32.240 one sided and not warranting publications. So you've got this 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:38.480 extremely subjective view of balance and questioning, etc. I must 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.520 say I was very unconvinced by their responses, and let's 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.600 hope in the next few days they can do better, Shari, 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:50.280 because on face value, this looks like very strong censorship 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:55.320 of a reasonably pro Israel position, which you need for 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:56.960 balance on the public broadcasters. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.280 I mean, you know, I think we forget that isral 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:05.120 is actually Australia's ally and that the terrorists are the enemy. Here. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.520 This seems to be forgotten, Richo, because SBS is censoring 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:14.680 anyone that's put forward Israel's position. Richard Kemp, the family 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.000 member of a hostage. How can this be sensitive and 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.840 yet they're happy to run the likes of Anthony Lowenstein, 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:26.160 who in many interviews accuses Israel are the most egregious 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.120 war crimes. Graham Richardson. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.119 Yeah, I must say I find it a little curious 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.560 that SBS would be would be going in this direction. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.480 There's no need to, there's no evidence, and yet they 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.960 seem to be increasingly anti Israel. I don't know why. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.320 But I'll tell you what. If I was the boss 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.439 of the SBS, somebody's bummerd get kicked, and I'd say, 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.000 I don't expect you to be all the way with Israel, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.119 but I do expect you to be fair and not 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.800 be all the way with the PLO. And I just 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.160 don't think that that mesa is getting across. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.240 Yeah, I also want to ask both of your views 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.520 on the other topic I spoke about just then, how 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.240 nervous the Albanezy government is becoming at the prospect of 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.080 a Trump presidency. Michael, this would be very difficult for 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.840 the left wing Albo and Pennywong to deal with. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:21.280 Well, it would be. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.840 You know, Trump's obviously made those public comments about Kevin Rudd, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.320 and you can be rest assured that people will remind 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.240 Trump of those remarks if he gets three elected. Despite 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:37.119 Kevin scurrying around Washington trying to say no, no, no, 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:41.560 I'm actually a good guy. I think he'll either have 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.119 to be recalled or he'll just you know, have his 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:49.199 term shortened by Peter Dutton if Peter Dutt wins. But 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.200 you clearly can't have someone in Washington who's called Trump 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.119 crazy in a danger and I mean, you know Trump's 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.200 not going to put up with that. So obviously it's 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.720 going to be difficult for Australia if he remains ambassador 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:01.640 if Trump is elected. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.960 But it's not only about Kevin rud Richo. It's also 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:10.320 crucial and fundamental differences on central policy areas, the different 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.760 positions on China, the different positions on Israel, the different 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.720 positions on climate change. This will be difficult for the 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.080 Albanezy government to deal with if Trump does win. 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:21.720 Difficult, but not impossible. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:23.200 I think. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.520 I can't see how Kevin Rudd can deal with them 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:33.639 at all. You know, he's positioned in regards to Trump 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:40.399 is simply not capable of being rescued. You know, you 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.840 can't say what he has said about Trump and then 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:44.320 turn around the next day and say, by the way, 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.880 I think he's a good bloke. No one will accept that. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.119 I think that's a real problem. I think you know 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.080 what's going to happen is that somebody's got to get 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.840 that big hook and just get him off the stage. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.760 Well, you are, you are an out and out Kamala 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.000 har I supporter, Richard. We'll see how only a couple 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.160 of weeks and then we'll be breaking down the results 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:08.320 here on a Wednesday night, because you both are regulars 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.240 on a Wednesday. Now Lydia Thorpe's hypocrisy is being exposed 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.760 after she pulled that embarrassing stunt in front of the 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.639 Royals on Monday. It has now been revealed that she 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.600 enjoys all the pucks that come with participating in colonial 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:26.360 structures like taxpayer funded into state travel. She even has 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:31.000 a membership to the exclusive VIP Quantus chairman's lounge along 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.600 with other politicians. Michael, do you think there is an argument, 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:39.959 and I've seen others express legal arguments behind it for 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:40.960 her to now resign. 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.920 Well, there's no obligation on her to resign, but look, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.920 you know, the practical things is she's stolen that seat 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.879 from the Greens. You know, she wasn't elected because she 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:53.720 was Lydia Thorpe. She was elected because she was a 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.400 Green number one on the Green's ticket, and that's why 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.600 she got elected. She stolen the seat from the Greens. 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.960 She should hand it back. She's complicit in theft. She's 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.560 taken something from the Greens and she should hand it back. 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.119 But you know what hypocrisy I mean, you know the 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.919 colonial structures. I mean, there she is sitting in one 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.439 of the great parliaments of the world on two hundred 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:18.120 and sixty thousand dollars plus souper and other benefits. It's 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.320 probably a package of three hundred thousand dollars or more 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.520 when you add in airfares and flights and everything else. 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.879 I mean, what a hypocrite sitting there on three hundred 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:33.399 thousand and complaining, well, you know, there's fifteen or sixteen 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.600 or eighteen million adult Australians. It's what places with her tomorrow? 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.200 Shari quite frankly, Yeah. 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.280 It's an extraordinary salary rich so she clearly just takes 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:41.960 it for granted. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.679 Yeah she does. I mean, she's just a huge pain 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.320 in our political bum and the sooner we get rid 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.800 of the better. I don't think that there's any saving 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.440 graces with her at all. I can't think of one 0:21:55.520 --> 0:22:00.920 reason why she should remain in the parliament, particularly if 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.480 we're so bad, If this is such a terrible nation, 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.560 why does she want to serve in the parliament. 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.880 No, it's a very good point. You'd have to think, 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.280 why did she swear allegiance to the Commonwealth if she 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.480 feels this way so strongly. But as I've said all week, 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:19.440 I strongly think this is Albanesi's fault because he shouldn't 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:23.680 have invited her to this prestigious reception. Anyone could have 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.720 told you that this is how she was going to 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.840 carry on. There's no opportunity, there's no event where she 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:32.280 doesn't stage a protest. So this is on them and 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:36.320 it has humiliated the whole country on the international stage. Right, 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.920 Michael Kroger, Grahem Richardson, thank you both for your time. Now. 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:44.680 The Prime Minister is struggling to claw back popularity among voters, 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:48.480 with the latest Freshwater Strategy poll revealing that Peter Dutton 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:53.119 is closing in on Anthony Alberanzi as preferred prime minister. Meanwhile, 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.159 the Coalition continues as the favorite and the two party 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:59.919 preferred vote, with a clear majority of voters saying that 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:04.440 the country is headed in the wrong direction. Well, this 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.760 is extraordinary, these results. It shows the momentum is in 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.719 Peter Dutton's favor. To bring it down. Let's bring in 0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:14.600 now the director of Freshwater Strategy, the polling phone that 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:19.040 did those figures, Leo Shanahan and Leo joines me here now, Lea, 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.480 thank you for your time. Look, what are the key 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:26.080 issues that you'll finding are behind this momentum that's giving 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:27.600 Peter Dutton the support. 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:29.840 Look, it's that key issue of cost and standard of 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.840 living and we've been seeing that for a long time now. 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.760 But the government is struggling to make up any ground. 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:41.400 It's lost over twenty four points on that very point 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:45.520 in the last year and it's living costs. Housing is 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.119 another one, Housing and cost of housing, managing the economy 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.280 a third, health and social care, and then crime and 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.640 social order. But the interesting thing is when you look 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.399 at those top five issues, the Coalition is winning out 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:03.919 of four of them. Now that will drive the vote 0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:07.080 towards the coalition. So as pulses, you look to not 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.000 just the pure numbers, but what are the issues? What 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:13.320 are those issues driving those numbers, and in this case 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.240 the cost of standard of living as we've talked about 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.600 housing accommodation. But it's interesting that crime and social order 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:22.320 too is now in that top five list. And we 0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.920 can speak about Queensland, but it's obviously a major issue 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:26.040 in that election as well. 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.840 I mean, so one of the biggest issues affecting voters 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.520 housing aforidability. We know there's a crisis in Australia at 0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:34.680 the moment. You would have been in the field when 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.920 the news broke that Albanezy had bought a four point 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:41.600 three million dollar cliff top mansion. How do you think 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.320 this has impacted his perception among Australians. 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:49.639 Look, it's interesting because in the last since our last 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:53.280 poll in this month, in the October poll, we did 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:57.760 have Peter Dutton coming within one point. As you've said, 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:01.160 on preferred Prime minister, it has never happened before. It's 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.800 forty four to forty three now and that's the closest 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.240 he's been on preferred Prime minister. The two pp hasn't 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:11.520 changed a lot, but the Coalition is still ahead now 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.040 reflecting in newspoll as well. So the trend is very 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.119 much in the wrong direction for the government on this 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:24.120 issue itself. Look, people, thirty six percent voters say that 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.119 their perception of him is worse as a result of 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:31.320 this decision. A majority fifty two percent say the purchase 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.280 had no impact on their view of him, and a 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:39.159 small percentage or actually quite in favor must be those investors. 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.400 But look, it should be said on this point. I mean, 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.440