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Speaker 1: Appoche production.

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Speaker 2: Episode seven, Dan in the Slammer. It's all over for

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Speaker 2: Dan Saunders. He's been caught. Well, he dubbed himself in.

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Speaker 1: We've believer a practice that you understand these rights.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's had his day in court to find

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Speaker 2: out how Dan got here and how the glitch changed

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Speaker 2: his life. Head back to the previous six episodes when

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Speaker 2: we left d Anne. In the last episode, he was

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Speaker 2: found guilty and could have been sentenced to a whole

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Speaker 2: lot longer than he.

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Speaker 3: Actually got on charge to obtained financial advantage by deception.

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Speaker 3: You are convicted and seems to be imprisoned for twelve

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Speaker 3: months commencing this day.

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Speaker 2: He's got to pay back around two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: grand to the NAB, which is a lot less than

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Speaker 2: the one point six million dollars. But that wasn't all.

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Speaker 4: Twelve months inside and then eighteen months community corrections order afterwards.

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Speaker 1: And so are you let out of the courtroom straight away?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So you basically go downstairs into holding cells and

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Speaker 4: then sort of people who have been convicted or they

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Speaker 4: have come from jail and they're a waiting to go

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Speaker 4: upstairs and that kind of thing, like they basically get

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Speaker 4: you know, sort of turfed in with them. But I

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Speaker 4: remember I was probably underneath the County Court for about

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Speaker 4: two hours, sitting in the suit in a cell with

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Speaker 4: a couple of other dudes. And yeah, then the buses

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Speaker 4: turn up and take us off to jail. And the

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Speaker 4: first place we went was the Melbourne Assessment Prison. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: spent like about three or four days there, those few

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Speaker 4: days of them at the map. So I was like

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Speaker 4: there was grown men like crying on the phone of

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Speaker 4: their wives and stuff, and like I remember I woke

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Speaker 4: up the first morning and there was I got put

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Speaker 4: in a cell. Like when I first went into a cell,

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Speaker 4: I went in by myself, and there was like this

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Speaker 4: sachet of bleach and that the place dunk. There was

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Speaker 4: a sashet of bleach, and I was like, oh, it's weird,

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Speaker 4: you know, like just bleach. So I emptied out the

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Speaker 4: cleaned up the place a little bit with the bleach.

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Speaker 4: And I learned later on that the bleach was to

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Speaker 4: clean like syringes and stuff. Yeah, I didn't actually know that.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't use it for clean so like a couple

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Speaker 4: of couple of nights later, another guy came into the cell.

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Speaker 4: He's like, where's the bleach?

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Speaker 1: Like, do you ask questions about what people are in for?

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Speaker 4: Not really, like you just sort of let people divulge

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Speaker 4: to you, Like, I'm no violent person, so you don't

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Speaker 4: you know, because it's a good way to get smack

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Speaker 4: in the head. But you just sort of like I

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Speaker 4: remember the first morning I went down and that like,

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Speaker 4: and I could smell bacon and I was like, surely

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Speaker 4: they ain't give it bacon. That's pretty you know. And

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Speaker 4: so the bacon you could smell was coming from the

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Speaker 4: guard's office. So they're sort of like, you see there's

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Speaker 4: this like psychological sort of games, you know, like straight

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Speaker 4: is like heavy step blow comes down and he's like,

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Speaker 1: All the bacon?

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Speaker 4: Someone stole the bacon, you know, And because you couldn't say,

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Speaker 4: you could smell it. And he grabbed this little guy.

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Speaker 4: He just held him against the wall. He's like, did

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Speaker 4: you have any fucking bacon? He's like, no, no, I

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Speaker 4: that's what we're in. We're in a fucking We're in

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Speaker 4: a madhouse. That's what it is. So you just got

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Speaker 4: I mean so a few days later, I moved to

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Speaker 4: move to Port Philip.

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Speaker 1: So you walk into Port Philip. That's a max security jail.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just so like real, real dirty. They call it

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Speaker 1: That just reaped read and reeks.

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Speaker 4: Of I just you know, like there's something called called

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Speaker 4: brownie up and what they do is they they ship

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Speaker 4: like an inmate will ship on their hand and then

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Speaker 4: don't know. I just talked to people. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how it happened. I like bought I bought a lot

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Speaker 4: of I bought a lot of cigarettes, like a lot

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Speaker 4: I thought, I just need to get it's much stuff

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Speaker 4: sort of currency I heard that. I don't know, I

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Speaker 4: didn't know anything. Like there was people in court that

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Speaker 4: so they go to court in their comfy clothes with

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Speaker 4: a pillow. So that's what they take downstairs with him,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So they're like all ready

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Speaker 4: the suit going.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like if you go a few times, you

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Speaker 4: start to you know, you know what it's like. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so anyway, like yeah, they just sort of when you

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Speaker 4: get into they just strip your bear and and then yeah,

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Speaker 4: just take all your possessions, take everything off you on

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Speaker 4: and then yeah, they put you Like I's just like

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Speaker 4: what you see in the show is basically but it's

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Speaker 4: it's pretty like it's pretty hectic place. Max Security is

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Speaker 4: pretty pretty hectic.

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Speaker 2: As I've said before, I haven't been to jail and

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Speaker 2: have really no plans to go. I do know a

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Speaker 2: few people that have been inside. Outside of Dan, the

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Speaker 2: people I know have spent lots of time in jail.

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Speaker 2: One of those blokes is a guy called Brent.

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Speaker 5: I'm known as simmer All up fourteen years jail since

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Speaker 5: the age of twelve.

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Speaker 2: He has a successful podcast called The Clink, which is

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Speaker 2: about stories of people who did some bad stuff and

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Speaker 2: how they've redeemed himself. Brent's not a bad guy, but

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Speaker 2: you also don't fuck with him. His background is he

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Speaker 2: was a sergeant at arms for a biker gang and

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Speaker 2: went to importation of drugs. So I wanted to ask

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Speaker 2: Dan walk in to a maximum security prison.

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Speaker 1: And you be in a maximum security jow.

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Speaker 5: First of all, don't eeball anyone. No one wants to

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Speaker 5: hear your fucking story. Don't ask anything of anyone, Be quiet,

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Speaker 4: In the corner of the room.

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Speaker 1: And just listen.

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Speaker 5: Bottom line, your personality is what's going to identify you

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Speaker 5: and work out who you are. Everybody watches body language,

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Speaker 5: Everybody listens. Soon enough, they're going to work out whether

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Speaker 5: you're an AB or just a D for dick. And

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Speaker 5: if that's what you are, that's how you be treated.

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Speaker 5: You want to play the alpha, be prepared for the games.

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Speaker 5: The games could cost you your life. Want to be

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Speaker 5: b Just keep your mouth shut to your own time.

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Speaker 2: We've seen the movies dropping the so bashings.

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Speaker 1: Is that what it's really like.

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Speaker 5: I'll never tell anybody. The worst thing I've seen in jail.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the worst I saw in terms of like violence

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, and he was in the cells.

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Speaker 4: He was like in a cell that was about four

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Speaker 4: cells for five cells away. So that was Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: So how do you find a crew in maximum security? Chael, Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Like I people automatically thought that I was like a

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Speaker 4: or I was a cop. That's how they felt about me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: but so when I told people that a.

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Speaker 1: Couple of those will get you bashed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. So but yeah, I was pretty

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Speaker 4: lucky early on that I gave I think I gave

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Speaker 4: sort of left me alone once I told people that

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Speaker 4: go and check. So lucky there was someone to put

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Speaker 4: so people come up and ask you, well, you know,

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Speaker 4: did you do. I'd be like I took some money

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Speaker 4: And a couple of days later I'd be like, hey, bro,

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Speaker 4: yeah I rang my missus. You are Yeah, you took

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Speaker 4: some money off the bank. Yeah, good on you, good

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Speaker 4: like it's cold pizza, Like I'll give a shit about

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Speaker 4: cold pizza, you know what I mean. Like there's not

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Speaker 4: only serving rockpool there, you know what I mean? There

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Speaker 4: was seven you know shit pizza. I used to go

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Speaker 4: to Australia's best restaurant that's called Scoppery in North Carlton, right,

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Speaker 4: the best, the best restaurant ever you see this way

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Speaker 4: to named Georgia, not case but the most beautiful man

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Speaker 4: go and give him a tip. Is the best guy

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Speaker 4: if you hadn't told me, Like their signature dishes Agnalotti

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Speaker 4: belt Plin, right, which is like a beautiful rakedy that's

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Speaker 4: filled with like veal, pork and rabbit, beautiful beautiful dish,

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Speaker 4: beautiful like they went seven that who cares? Like do

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Speaker 4: you want to go first? Go first, no problem, might

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Speaker 4: not care. So I wasn't trying to ruffle anyone's feathers.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't like, you know, trying to be the first.

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Speaker 4: You know, in the morning, they put like bread and

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Speaker 4: jam out for breakfast, people just going, you know, steal

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Speaker 4: it because it's jail, Like no one leaves any for

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Speaker 4: anyone else. Like the people closest to it go and

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Speaker 4: steal it and then they you know, barter for it.

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Speaker 4: But I think I was interested in like some jail

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Speaker 4: cook brand and some you know, shit fucking doughnut jam.

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Speaker 4: Don't you care about that whatever?

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Speaker 1: Mum come to visit. Yes, you did. Yeah, how's that?

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Speaker 1: It was good?

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Speaker 2: Lots of dance mates never saw him in jail. You

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Speaker 6: No, I didn't, and I regret it, actually because I

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Speaker 1: I like that. Dan really didn't do this for the money,

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Speaker 6: He did it for experiences and to take people along

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Speaker 6: I learned that people act differently when you've got money,

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Speaker 1: Did money change Dan? No? I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 6: No, he was he was always the same person. Definitely

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Speaker 6: He definitely learned who his true friends were, just based

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Speaker 2: Twelve months in jail can change a bloke. Dan spent

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Speaker 4: Yeah, mum was there. My step brother, one of my

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like it was mixed emotions. It was like, well,

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Speaker 2: Remember the ones that didn't pay their staff. So Dan

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Speaker 4: So actually in jail, in jail, I did the court

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Speaker 4: you a sentence for it. However, I believe there are

433
00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:13,801
Speaker 4: reasons you did this, which we're not going to go

434
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: into here. That's what he said. I was like, you

435
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 4: know what, that's actually enough for me. I'm happy with that.

436
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:26,041
Speaker 4: And then he gave me six months concurrent, so time served.

437
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 4: He knew I was in jail for a year, so

438
00:24:28,281 --> 00:24:32,761
Speaker 4: he gave me six months in jail to run concurrently

439
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 4: with the sentence. I already had, so no more time.

440
00:24:36,241 --> 00:24:38,281
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, thanks for that.

441
00:24:38,521 --> 00:24:41,281
Speaker 4: Because we had the conversation and he was like, you

442
00:24:41,321 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 4: know what's going I remember he asked me. He said, Hey,

443
00:24:45,481 --> 00:24:47,441
Speaker 4: what's going on with the cash thing? Like we can't

444
00:24:47,481 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 4: We like to come over here, but we can't pay cash.

445
00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:54,441
Speaker 4: We've got to pay with that, you know, the company can't,

446
00:24:54,521 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 4: so to speak.

447
00:24:56,001 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: So Dan gets out of jail, but he's still going

448
00:24:58,561 --> 00:25:01,281
Speaker 2: to serve eighteen months of community service.

449
00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:06,641
Speaker 4: Community service was stacking chair all that sort of thing,

450
00:25:06,801 --> 00:25:11,521
Speaker 4: like if I had it, if I had had to

451
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 4: stack chairs for five years. That would have been worse

452
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,681
Speaker 4: than going to jail for one year. That was shit

453
00:25:20,201 --> 00:25:24,281
Speaker 4: stacking chairs where well, like just community centers. It wasn't

454
00:25:24,281 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: always stacking chairs. But I say that because other menial

455
00:25:27,041 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 4: tasks are that. So you know, like it might have

456
00:25:29,681 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: been you know, going to the food bank and helping

457
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: out the food bank and you know, look, I can't

458
00:25:38,201 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 4: I met a lot of great people doing that. I

459
00:25:41,761 --> 00:25:44,321
Speaker 4: met a woman that I was in a relationship for

460
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: a while with doing that. So that was actually that

461
00:25:48,041 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 4: was really good and it was good to do something

462
00:25:49,921 --> 00:25:52,721
Speaker 4: in the community. I liked it. But yeah, I mean

463
00:25:52,761 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 4: it wasn't It wasn't like yeah, I mean you were

464
00:25:56,001 --> 00:26:00,281
Speaker 4: there for you know, six hours, you know, every week

465
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,761
Speaker 4: or whatever.

466
00:26:01,721 --> 00:26:05,961
Speaker 2: Dan is released from prison in May of twoy sixteen.

467
00:26:06,561 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: So it's been a while since you've been out of jail.

468
00:26:08,521 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: Since since jail, you've done a bunch of stuff.

469
00:26:10,921 --> 00:26:11,801
Speaker 4: Haven't been back yet.

470
00:26:12,041 --> 00:26:12,641
Speaker 1: Haven't been back.

471
00:26:12,681 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 4: That's good, which is you know, I think about forty

472
00:26:16,681 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: percent people go back.

473
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: Dan. How is how are you now? I don't know?

474
00:26:24,241 --> 00:26:25,241
Speaker 4: You tell you tell me.

475
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you look bloody normal, You look like just

476
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,761
Speaker 1: a normal bloke, how do you feel about what happened?

477
00:26:32,761 --> 00:26:37,881
Speaker 4: Well, I definitely had a hangover period afterwards, Like when

478
00:26:37,921 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: I was working at that restaurant and stuff like, it

479
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,601
Speaker 4: was definitely like the staff from there. I can tell

480
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: you some wild times, like we had some crazy nights

481
00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:48,881
Speaker 4: because I was sort of like trying to recreate you know,

482
00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: the stuff that was happening at the bank with no cash,

483
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,281
Speaker 4: with no cash, with minimal, minimal cash. Now, I mean

484
00:26:55,321 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: it's just I mean, it's almost like it didn't happen now,

485
00:26:58,961 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: I mean it's you know, my life's completely different. I've

486
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,601
Speaker 4: certainly got it. Had a window into a world that

487
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 4: you know, I had a curiosity about, but no longer do.

488
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,401
Speaker 4: I'm no longer under the illusion that people with more

489
00:27:15,441 --> 00:27:20,041
Speaker 4: money or any better people. They're just they're just different.

490
00:27:20,281 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: Got a wealthy mate. I always have a joke with him

491
00:27:22,281 --> 00:27:26,161
Speaker 4: about like he's got an outfit for everything. You don't

492
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: play tenancy like busy tennis kid. It's like, mate, just

493
00:27:30,521 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: wear some like board shorts and don't worry about you know,

494
00:27:33,321 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: like he's always got you know, so so wealthy people

495
00:27:36,481 --> 00:27:39,961
Speaker 4: always have an outfit, like their teeth are usually like impeccable.

496
00:27:40,281 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: But he's got he's got a yacht and that's a

497
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,441
Speaker 4: bit of fun to go. So you know he's got

498
00:27:45,561 --> 00:27:48,481
Speaker 4: you know, he has a crack back at me and goes, yeah,

499
00:27:48,521 --> 00:27:51,241
Speaker 4: he didn't, he didn't, He didn't even save any money made.

500
00:27:51,481 --> 00:27:54,721
Speaker 4: But you know, but.

501
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: How did you meet this wealthy mate just at a bar?

502
00:27:57,201 --> 00:27:59,681
Speaker 1: Just a bar or not not not during the time

503
00:27:59,721 --> 00:28:01,921
Speaker 1: of fun or during the time of fun.

504
00:28:02,041 --> 00:28:04,641
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean so many people during that time. It's

505
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 4: it's the gift that keeps him giving a lot of

506
00:28:06,681 --> 00:28:08,801
Speaker 4: the time because it's like you've got still got these

507
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 4: great connections with this. You know, you walk into a

508
00:28:11,441 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 4: party and there's someone who you've gone through some crazy

509
00:28:15,201 --> 00:28:16,961
Speaker 4: experience with and all you need to do is go

510
00:28:17,441 --> 00:28:19,801
Speaker 4: there you going, you know, bit of a raised eyebrow,

511
00:28:20,241 --> 00:28:22,681
Speaker 4: and everyone knows what you taught. You know, you both

512
00:28:22,721 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: know what you're talking about. And even though he was

513
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,281
Speaker 4: you know, he was very wealthy then and he still

514
00:28:28,441 --> 00:28:31,161
Speaker 4: is very wealthy. You like, he doesn't care about that,

515
00:28:31,441 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: Like it's about the connection that we re formed. It

516
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,801
Speaker 4: wasn't the fact that you know, like, yeah, I was

517
00:28:36,801 --> 00:28:38,921
Speaker 4: sure I was getting the money from somewhere else, but

518
00:28:39,961 --> 00:28:42,681
Speaker 4: or stealing the money, you know, as a you know

519
00:28:43,361 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: now is it's transpired. But he doesn't see that as.

520
00:28:48,081 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Being an issue.

521
00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:51,361
Speaker 4: He's just like, well, you know, there's more than one

522
00:28:51,401 --> 00:28:54,561
Speaker 4: may to skin a cat, you know, to show up

523
00:28:54,601 --> 00:28:57,921
Speaker 4: with that, you know, like some cold drinks and go

524
00:28:58,041 --> 00:29:00,641
Speaker 4: out on the yacht for the day. That's better than owner,

525
00:29:00,721 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: you know, the only you got so much shit to

526
00:29:04,241 --> 00:29:08,841
Speaker 4: worry about assurance, it's better just to have a mate.

527
00:29:08,841 --> 00:29:11,281
Speaker 4: And you just show up and you're just like, yeah, great,

528
00:29:12,281 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: still have an account with the air No, no, now

529
00:29:15,801 --> 00:29:16,801
Speaker 4: accounts with the NAB.

530
00:29:17,361 --> 00:29:19,281
Speaker 1: Still still able to get a bank account?

531
00:29:19,641 --> 00:29:23,401
Speaker 4: Yeah, bank accounts, okay, can do at this stage, I'm

532
00:29:23,441 --> 00:29:26,561
Speaker 4: not sure after this podcast, I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm

533
00:29:26,561 --> 00:29:30,161
Speaker 4: basically going to keep talking about it until the NAB

534
00:29:30,441 --> 00:29:32,161
Speaker 4: hires a hit man and kills me.

535
00:29:33,761 --> 00:29:36,881
Speaker 1: What about girlfriend, Now, have you got a girlfriend or anything?

536
00:29:37,281 --> 00:29:39,721
Speaker 4: No? No, well I said, I haven't got a girlfriend.

537
00:29:40,881 --> 00:29:43,601
Speaker 4: I've got I've got a fiance and she's a love

538
00:29:43,641 --> 00:29:46,361
Speaker 4: my life. It's probably due to her. While I look, you.

539
00:29:46,321 --> 00:29:48,761
Speaker 1: Know so fresh, don't drink anymore?

540
00:29:49,201 --> 00:29:52,561
Speaker 4: No, not really, like look, I'm not I'm not totally

541
00:29:52,561 --> 00:29:54,801
Speaker 4: putting into bed like if you've got, tell me what

542
00:29:54,841 --> 00:29:55,201
Speaker 4: you've got.

543
00:29:55,361 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: If you've got a nights bottle beer in the fridge.

544
00:29:59,441 --> 00:30:02,401
Speaker 4: Look, you know it's it's it's that kind of thing,

545
00:30:02,481 --> 00:30:06,201
Speaker 4: like it's I've done it to death. I really gave

546
00:30:06,241 --> 00:30:09,201
Speaker 4: it a crack, and you know, now I'm forty years old.

547
00:30:09,401 --> 00:30:11,321
Speaker 4: What am I going to do anyway? It look like

548
00:30:11,761 --> 00:30:13,201
Speaker 4: even if you go to the bar and you try

549
00:30:13,241 --> 00:30:14,921
Speaker 4: and smash it up, you still look a bit funny.

550
00:30:14,921 --> 00:30:21,481
Speaker 4: When you're forty, Say you want kids and you have them,

551
00:30:21,481 --> 00:30:24,401
Speaker 4: do you tell the kids about what you did? I

552
00:30:24,401 --> 00:30:29,041
Speaker 4: think they'll probably know because I don't think you can. Yeah,

553
00:30:29,041 --> 00:30:33,281
Speaker 4: I don't think you can hide a movie for me kids.

554
00:30:33,801 --> 00:30:36,281
Speaker 4: I've been to jail, so I've seen what people what

555
00:30:36,361 --> 00:30:40,521
Speaker 4: a job people can do with their kids. So I

556
00:30:40,521 --> 00:30:42,401
Speaker 4: don't think i'll do I don't think i'll do a

557
00:30:42,401 --> 00:30:42,841
Speaker 4: bad job.

558
00:30:43,081 --> 00:30:45,001
Speaker 1: You just mentioned a movie. Is there a chance of

559
00:30:45,001 --> 00:30:45,521
Speaker 1: a movie?

560
00:30:45,921 --> 00:30:49,601
Speaker 4: Here's a chance. Yeah, But it's like you know, like

561
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:52,041
Speaker 4: I mean, if you say you know you're going to

562
00:30:52,121 --> 00:30:55,881
Speaker 4: do a movie, then you know invariably you won't. So

563
00:30:56,401 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 4: I don't know. I've got no idea. There is a

564
00:30:59,801 --> 00:31:02,521
Speaker 4: high level of interest. I'll put it that way. But

565
00:31:03,321 --> 00:31:06,441
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not in charge of movies. I can't

566
00:31:06,481 --> 00:31:09,761
Speaker 4: make one, so I guess it's up to other people.

567
00:31:10,561 --> 00:31:12,721
Speaker 2: Dan's done a fair bit of media. You might have

568
00:31:12,761 --> 00:31:15,801
Speaker 2: heard his podcast with Adam Shanned or The Story on

569
00:31:15,841 --> 00:31:18,801
Speaker 2: a few other podcasts, but in this one he really

570
00:31:18,841 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: has told us everything. As we're writing this final episode,

571
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:24,921
Speaker 2: we got the text that we've been waiting for from Dan.

572
00:31:25,601 --> 00:31:28,081
Speaker 2: He signed a deal for his story to be turned

573
00:31:28,121 --> 00:31:31,841
Speaker 2: into a movie with a US studio. Things are going

574
00:31:31,881 --> 00:31:33,961
Speaker 2: to start to heat up for Dan with a movie deal,

575
00:31:34,601 --> 00:31:37,521
Speaker 2: and I wanted to know who Dan Reckons could play

576
00:31:37,601 --> 00:31:39,801
Speaker 2: him if it's ever made.

577
00:31:40,201 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: If I had to choose, I don't know.

578
00:31:44,601 --> 00:31:48,881
Speaker 4: The biggest you can get DiCaprio, Yeah, I don't know.

579
00:31:49,681 --> 00:31:53,721
Speaker 4: I think I think DiCaprio or maybe some of the Yeah,

580
00:31:53,761 --> 00:31:56,161
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe some of the women he dates

581
00:31:56,201 --> 00:32:00,921
Speaker 4: would be a better age, so maybe someone younger. Yeah,

582
00:32:00,921 --> 00:32:04,601
Speaker 4: I'm not too sure, though. I don't know anyone who

583
00:32:05,161 --> 00:32:09,201
Speaker 4: had the passion for the story and wanted to play

584
00:32:09,241 --> 00:32:11,401
Speaker 4: me i'd be happy with.

585
00:32:12,561 --> 00:32:15,161
Speaker 2: Since we started releasing episodes of The Glitch, a fair

586
00:32:15,201 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: bits happened. There's been a lot of hype around Dan's story.

587
00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:21,521
Speaker 2: He's done more TV and radio promoting the podcast.

588
00:32:21,921 --> 00:32:24,321
Speaker 1: This is an incredible story. We're about to talk to Dan.

589
00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:27,401
Speaker 6: He has a new podcast, The Glitch, which is now

590
00:32:27,441 --> 00:32:29,881
Speaker 6: on the iHeartRadio app Hi.

591
00:32:30,041 --> 00:32:34,321
Speaker 1: Dan, Guys, what a wonderful story this is, but not.

592
00:32:34,441 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: So wonderful in the end.

593
00:32:35,841 --> 00:32:38,601
Speaker 1: Tell us like you had your ATM card.

594
00:32:38,801 --> 00:32:44,281
Speaker 2: The podcast is being listened to right across the worldtend.

595
00:32:48,561 --> 00:32:51,401
Speaker 2: We originally planned to wrap up the last episode with

596
00:32:51,601 --> 00:32:54,521
Speaker 2: questions from you about anything you wanted to know about

597
00:32:54,521 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: The Glitch and what happened for Dan, and that was

598
00:32:58,201 --> 00:33:01,521
Speaker 2: supposed to be episode eight. But along this journey in

599
00:33:01,601 --> 00:33:06,321
Speaker 2: Dan telling his story, we've become mates and he's now

600
00:33:06,361 --> 00:33:10,641
Speaker 2: told us some of the looser stories that Dan hasn't

601
00:33:10,761 --> 00:33:11,681
Speaker 2: yet told.

602
00:33:11,721 --> 00:33:14,121
Speaker 4: Probably the most cringey story I can tell you.

603
00:33:14,161 --> 00:33:14,681
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.

604
00:33:15,881 --> 00:33:19,441
Speaker 2: So we will now have an episode eight with your questions,

605
00:33:19,761 --> 00:33:24,001
Speaker 2: plus an update on the Hollywood movie deal and some

606
00:33:24,081 --> 00:33:28,161
Speaker 2: of the looser stories that Dan has never told. Some

607
00:33:28,201 --> 00:33:31,721
Speaker 2: people listening to this will say that you're a legend.

608
00:33:32,321 --> 00:33:33,841
Speaker 2: You screwed the big guy. Well done.

609
00:33:34,561 --> 00:33:37,201
Speaker 1: Some people will say he's a common thief.

610
00:33:37,761 --> 00:33:40,681
Speaker 4: I really don't care what people think about me. I

611
00:33:40,721 --> 00:33:44,561
Speaker 4: mean I'm not trying to sell anything. I'm not at

612
00:33:44,601 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: the end of this going to go, hey, have you

613
00:33:47,281 --> 00:33:49,961
Speaker 4: got about forty five minutes, because I'd love to talk

614
00:33:50,001 --> 00:33:53,641
Speaker 4: about the Lord Jesus Christ. You know, I'm not interested

615
00:33:53,681 --> 00:33:56,121
Speaker 4: in I'm not trying to give you anything here. All

616
00:33:56,121 --> 00:33:59,121
Speaker 4: I'm telling you is a story. I don't owe you anything.

617
00:34:00,281 --> 00:34:03,241
Speaker 4: I don't want to be your friend. And hey, if

618
00:34:03,241 --> 00:34:06,321
Speaker 4: you hate me, go for it. But my advice would

619
00:34:06,361 --> 00:34:09,721
Speaker 4: be wind something else to do it. Look, it doesn't matter.

620
00:34:10,321 --> 00:34:13,081
Speaker 2: That's next time on the glitch. Are you ashamed of

621
00:34:13,081 --> 00:34:13,521
Speaker 2: this story?

622
00:34:14,121 --> 00:34:15,721
Speaker 1: Oh, like a little bit.

623
00:34:16,041 --> 00:34:18,001
Speaker 4: And I also don't like I don't want to make

624
00:34:18,041 --> 00:34:21,641
Speaker 4: of it either. Really, I mean, it's just it's an

625
00:34:21,681 --> 00:34:26,841
Speaker 4: example of when you give people unlimited funds. She's sort

626
00:34:26,841 --> 00:34:29,961
Speaker 4: of been out to, you know, the whole party of

627
00:34:30,041 --> 00:34:33,121
Speaker 4: about you know, sort of fifty people that she was

628
00:34:33,281 --> 00:34:35,601
Speaker 4: just wanted to get laid And yeah, there was this.

629
00:34:35,921 --> 00:34:38,881
Speaker 7: We were in the casino and Crown Casino in Melbourne

630
00:34:38,921 --> 00:34:42,761
Speaker 7: and made of Mine just had an idea that it

631
00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:45,521
Speaker 7: was going to start daring people to take the rule

632
00:34:45,521 --> 00:34:47,321
Speaker 7: a ball out of the wheel.

633
00:34:47,921 --> 00:34:50,641
Speaker 4: We just went and did the most outland of stuff,

634
00:34:50,681 --> 00:34:54,121
Speaker 4: like the stuff that we would never do any other time.

635
00:34:54,961 --> 00:34:57,881
Speaker 4: All these stories not you know, not particularly proud of that,

636
00:34:57,961 --> 00:35:00,521
Speaker 4: but it's just, you know, something that something that happened