Speaker 1: Okay, it same, it's Harps, it's Patrick and Tiffany. I've
Speaker 1: been told off nine times on my own fucking show
Speaker 1: in the first five minutes. This is the third time
Speaker 1: I've started a recording because apparently I overmodulate. Well, I
Speaker 1: think Patrick fucking undermodulates and look at the results he produces,
Speaker 1: so I think over modulation is the way to go.
Speaker 1: Tis been insulted two times, as she's called a cat
Speaker 1: a little fuckstick nine times. Patrick's trying to make me
Speaker 1: more technically capable. None of it's working. It's been a
Speaker 1: shit fest. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.
Speaker 1: Over and out. Patrick, Do you think that there's any
Speaker 1: chance that you could mold me into what you need
Speaker 1: me to be like? Because I'm just born to fit
Speaker 1: in for you.
Speaker 2: I'm not a miracle worker. I'm just an engineer.
Speaker 1: I'm just an engineer. Oh, that's funny. I do have
Speaker 1: some inaptitude. Is that what you're saying straight into the
Speaker 1: mic when I get excited?
Speaker 2: No? Oh, okay, so we're talking about you getting hyper
Speaker 2: excited every time the three of us are together, and
Speaker 2: you just your volume goes up. See my pitch goes up,
Speaker 2: and you always say that I'm a girl because I
Speaker 2: get excited and my pitch goes up.
Speaker 1: But you get nothing wrong with being a girl, Patrick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so your volume goes up and my inflections go higher,
Speaker 2: but that's not a mad thing. It's great that we
Speaker 2: get so excited with me together.
Speaker 1: And I think it's great that we have such a
Speaker 1: representation of you know people, because you're a boy pretty
Speaker 1: much like like like you death, no sit down. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's just going to show us mister snufflepagus,
Speaker 1: fuck you hell, keep that shit. Yeah, I would be
Speaker 1: more offended than Tiff. Keep that well away. And then
Speaker 1: there's Tiff. I mean, god, bless so hard to be
Speaker 1: a girl?
Speaker 2: Have you.
Speaker 1: Do you own a dress? We were joking before we
Speaker 1: went live, like a dress there.
Speaker 3: Are there are a few dresses in my cupboard that
Speaker 3: have not had a run for a very long time.
Speaker 3: I have to wear a dress in Cairns next month.
Speaker 3: I'm not happy about it.
Speaker 1: Why do you have to wear a dress? Like do
Speaker 1: they determine? Oh, because you've got to do's.
Speaker 3: A gala event at the end of the conference that.
Speaker 1: You know in Australia that's known as that's that's in Australia.
Speaker 1: It's a gala event, so go in feathers.
Speaker 3: I might just do that.
Speaker 2: You could do that, Kansas and hot and muggy. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: it be better wearing a dress? Wouldn't it be more comfortable.
Speaker 3: Well defined, comfortable mate.
Speaker 1: Emotionally and mentally distressing for her physically? Perhaps?
Speaker 2: I mean, could you do it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hybrid like? Were it killed instead?
Speaker 3: I have pulled the jumpsuit card for as many times
Speaker 3: as I can, just trying to get by with that.
Speaker 1: It's funny. Patrick's got several of those. You girls could
Speaker 1: get together and fucking just sort through and see what
Speaker 1: looks good on you.
Speaker 2: Hey, you know I wore I wore I went surfing
Speaker 2: at the weekend and I put on my.
Speaker 1: Hang on hang on, you went surfing?
Speaker 2: Okay, well it wasn't quite so it was bottom. I
Speaker 2: had a boogie board. Okay, that's still hitting the surf,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the most accurate you can be. I went
Speaker 1: to the beach. We believe that, but hey, everyone, I
Speaker 1: went to the beach.
Speaker 2: The takeaway from that was that when I when I
Speaker 2: left k Rock and Geelong, my going away gift was
Speaker 2: a rip curl full piece of wet suit and I
Speaker 2: dug it out of the cupboard and it fits. I
Speaker 2: still fit into my thirty year old wetsuit. How good
Speaker 2: is that?
Speaker 1: Well, firstly, nobody goes to the beach and gets in
Speaker 1: a wet suit. It's summer.
Speaker 2: I know it's cold. It was span of water, mate,
Speaker 2: it was a cold day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're soft, bro. If have you ever served, No,
Speaker 1: I haven't ever served. You'd probably be good at it
Speaker 1: because you're annoyingly fucking athletic.
Speaker 2: Better than me.
Speaker 1: My first mate, Patrick will just be on the beach
Speaker 1: eating sandwiches together, holding hands.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what it's great for washing out
Speaker 2: your sinuses when you get dumped that salt water in
Speaker 2: the mouth, through the nose, out the nostrils. Yep.
Speaker 1: I should have tried that three years ago for my ears.
Speaker 1: I might have avoided three years of ear turmoil. Anyway, Well,
Speaker 1: welcome Patrick. We do love you, and if we do
Speaker 1: love you, please send a photos of you in address.
Speaker 1: If that doesn't get traction in typ Land, put that
Speaker 1: up in the group me or Tiff, both of you
Speaker 1: do you know what, I'm sure everyone would love to
Speaker 1: see you in a dress as well, or as you
Speaker 1: call it, Tuesday, I.
Speaker 2: Tell you that I actually once went to a drag
Speaker 2: party and shocked up in address no no once. I
Speaker 2: lived at it once. So it was a closed party.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a public thing. And should I tell the story.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to mention closed. I think
Speaker 1: we realized when you go to a party, it's not
Speaker 1: a fucking public event. True. Where was it? I was
Speaker 1: in the city square? Okay, just me and nine thousand
Speaker 1: other people. All right, So you went to this this
Speaker 1: closed event. Tell us about it.
Speaker 2: Well, the theme was drag, and so I thought, wow,
Speaker 2: if I'm going to go as just any old drag,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go as a queen. The queen. So
Speaker 2: a friend of mine had a girlfriend who was coming,
Speaker 2: and she was a makeup artist. So she spent over
Speaker 2: an hour in the chair, had a wig and everything,
Speaker 2: and of course I couldn't see what she was doing.
Speaker 2: And then when she finished, she got the mirror out
Speaker 2: and I was looking at Queen Elizabeth. It was amazing,
Speaker 2: like it was the most phenomenal transformation. And then the
Speaker 2: whole night I just walked around with the handbag pul
Speaker 2: necklace on behalf of my husband to day. It gave
Speaker 2: me great pleasure to be there and I just spoke
Speaker 2: like that for the whole evening. It was great.
Speaker 1: I want you to do the whole podcast and that
Speaker 1: can I just mention old firstly, Patrick, sorry I cut
Speaker 1: you short a bit, good story. And also I could
Speaker 1: see you I was going to say pulling off the queen.
Speaker 1: As that came into my little filter that I have
Speaker 1: in my brain, I'm thinking, I'm not sure that that's
Speaker 1: the best term, but let me say impersonating the queen
Speaker 1: rather than then the other option. I could see you
Speaker 1: doing that quite well. If I just want to mention
Speaker 1: before we actually do what Patrick's meant to do, which
Speaker 1: is share stuff of a technical nature, technological nature. I
Speaker 1: noticed before the show that every time you talk about
Speaker 1: your cat, the word fucking is associated to it. Patrick,
Speaker 1: have you know she had my fucking cat?
Speaker 3: Because I shut the door, I'm like, cool, I'll shut
Speaker 3: shut the door, and next minute minute from under the.
Speaker 2: Desk, I'm like, where the fuck.
Speaker 1: Were you you go? I could have said something so
Speaker 1: funny then, but I can't go on, so I can't.
Speaker 1: It's no it's two years eight, all right, Patrick, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show officially, Why don't you start with whatever
Speaker 1: story you want to start with. Then I'm going to
Speaker 1: read as going to say patronizingly, your little list. See
Speaker 1: I've got myself. Well I didn't mean it like that,
Speaker 1: but in my head, your little list, And then I thought, no,
Speaker 1: that's not very respectful, it's quite patronizing. So I'll read
Speaker 1: your big list while you're yacking to us and think
Speaker 1: about what's up next. So what do you want to
Speaker 1: lead off with? What's got your attention this week?
Speaker 2: Can I just get something off my chest? Because I've
Speaker 2: been annoyed this week. So every time I've opened a pdf,
Speaker 2: my Adobe pdf reader says, this appears to be a
Speaker 2: long document. Save time by reading a summary by an
Speaker 2: AI assistant, And It's like, fuck off, I'm going to
Speaker 2: read the whole bloody thing. Don't tell me what the
Speaker 2: best part of this bloody pdf is. I'll decide what
Speaker 2: the best part of this pdf. Adobe. Stop it. Stop
Speaker 2: telling me you're going to summarize my bloody article. Stop
Speaker 2: telling me that I don't need to read it, Like,
Speaker 2: what the hell? I want to use my brain? Sorry,
Speaker 2: now I've got it off my chest. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is spoken authorized by pissed up Patrick Ja
Speaker 1: mayor of Banella, is just Banillo. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't open too many PDFs, but oh I do a few,
Speaker 1: but maybe, but I get shit coming up all the
Speaker 1: time in that going Hey, use this or we can
Speaker 1: summarize that for you and would you like to? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think you just got I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not going away. That's only going to get more prevalent,
Speaker 1: I would think, And I'm just like, nah, I'm good. Thanks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I think navigating from an
Speaker 1: emotional and a mental health point of view, for us
Speaker 1: as individuals, navigating the AI landscape without getting sucked into
Speaker 1: it and becoming a non thinking, unaware, fucking cyborg in
Speaker 1: its orbit is a real responsibility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. And it's interesting because last time
Speaker 2: we did a podcast and occasionally we ask listeners for feedback,
Speaker 2: and in fact, we've had two lots of listeners contact
Speaker 2: us during the week. One is Mark Keo.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Mark is a trainer and does first aid training in
Speaker 2: Western Australia. Really nice guy and he was Hey Mark,
Speaker 2: Hey Mark, great, glad you listened to the show.
Speaker 1: He drives Tiff doesn't want you here, clearly because she
Speaker 1: said so from Patrick. So from Patrick and I Mark,
Speaker 1: we alpha males love you Tiff not so much.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah. Evidently he spends a lot of time
Speaker 2: on the road in his car, so he has very
Speaker 2: little options but to listen to.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's a few I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: few other things available on the interwebs.
Speaker 2: Nothing but than top.
Speaker 1: Yep, go and tell us about Mark.
Speaker 2: Well, he was saying that he was listening to an
Speaker 2: episode of Rogan and Musk, and Elon Musk has been
Speaker 2: quoted as saying that within five to six years that
Speaker 2: phones will not have any apps on them, and AI
Speaker 2: will predict what it is you want to do and
Speaker 2: serve it up. So I was thinking, as I was
Speaker 2: getting annoyed at Adobe my PDF reader, that would be
Speaker 2: the worst possible case scenario to have my phone through
Speaker 2: AI decide what I want. And I just thought it
Speaker 2: was quite an interesting reference that Mark made to the
Speaker 2: fact that AI is just absolutely taking over our damn lives.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but why does that predictive
Speaker 1: kind of thing about what you want to know? Why
Speaker 1: does that bother you?
Speaker 2: So much because it takes the decision making process out
Speaker 2: of my hands. There's got to be a point.
Speaker 1: Does it though? Does it? Can't you just go no,
Speaker 1: I don't want you to do that.
Speaker 2: Well, he's said. What he's saying is there won't be
Speaker 2: any apps on your phone. You turn your phone on,
Speaker 2: there are no apps.
Speaker 1: Here's my here's my will. I will bet one million
Speaker 1: dollars in six years. There are apps one?
Speaker 2: Okay, TI, if you're writing that down right, yep, I
Speaker 2: saw you're writing it down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 2: He's calling them edge nodes, and so you'll skip the
Speaker 2: manual app when you're navigating, and the edge nodes will
Speaker 2: just do whatever it is you're thinking. You think you
Speaker 2: need to do, or he thinks you need to do.
Speaker 1: I think the only problem is Elon didn't agree to
Speaker 1: my bets. So unless you want it, you two want
Speaker 1: to go in Harvey's and give me half a million each? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No tips out, just giving me the big wave off.
Speaker 1: And also let's just get through our listeners. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you want to send send fuck it, send it
Speaker 1: to Patrick. Yeah, what's your email? Ag don't send them
Speaker 1: to me? No. I love you though, but I'm not
Speaker 1: the tech answering, dude, what's your email again? Mate?
Speaker 2: I just just go to websites now, dot com dot
Speaker 2: au and then you can fill out the contact form
Speaker 2: and just all right you want to ask, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Tell us about MAXI young, Maxwell, Peggy who and you something?
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: We've had two interactive kind of questions in relation to AI,
Speaker 2: and I guess the one that Maxwell high Maxwell. This
Speaker 2: is where you say, Hi Maxwell, or do you hate
Speaker 2: him as well?
Speaker 1: Hell? What is wrong with you? Fucking It's not all
Speaker 1: about you, you reckon. You can pay attention to the
Speaker 1: show for one and like be like you're actually part
Speaker 1: of the fucking crew here. You're not meant to be
Speaker 1: fucking looking at your computer like you're some person in
Speaker 1: the background just fucking editing.
Speaker 3: Hi Maxwell, I hope you're really well.
Speaker 1: Fucking Hell, I don't think he bought it.
Speaker 2: Go on Patrick Well to quote Maxwell AI fuck terrifying. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: nice quote. I like that. So basically, the question he's
Speaker 2: asking is who controls digital reality? Because when you think
Speaker 2: about it, it's only a very very small, massively massive
Speaker 2: wealthy amount of tech companies that now control search, social media, messaging,
Speaker 2: video consumption, digital advertising. Because you think about it. Now,
Speaker 2: more than fifty percent of all the content that we're
Speaker 2: now seeing online is generated by AI and those algorithms
Speaker 2: that we're looking at when we see a YouTube reel
Speaker 2: and then another reel comes up because they want to
Speaker 2: keep you on the app or social media. So the
Speaker 2: reality of it is it's a very very small amount
Speaker 2: of people who have this ridiculous amount of power. And
Speaker 2: that's a frightening thought. And I know we've discussed this
Speaker 2: before because we're talking trillion dollar companies, not million, not billion,
Speaker 2: but trillion dollar companies that have so much power and
Speaker 2: influence And where's the oversight you know we're trying. Of course,
Speaker 2: on the tenth of December last year, we saw that
Speaker 2: social media became restricted for under sixteens. Now, some smarter
Speaker 2: under sixteens have got around that. Some parents have managed
Speaker 2: to keep their kids on socials by basically, you know,
Speaker 2: fudging the system and you know, making out of them
Speaker 2: who has that social media. So you know, people have
Speaker 2: got round the bands to a degree in Australia. And
Speaker 2: it's controversial in itself too because I mean I'm kind
Speaker 2: of digressing a little bit, but one of the articles
Speaker 2: I was going to talk about today was young people
Speaker 2: who are now feeling like they're exceptionally isolated because they've
Speaker 2: lost all their friends in terms of being able to
Speaker 2: interact on the likes of Snapchat and not being able
Speaker 2: to contact friends. And you know, the tenth of December
Speaker 2: was right at the end of the school right at
Speaker 2: the start of the school holidays, and suddenly this blanket
Speaker 2: band came out, And so if you were fourteen or fifteen,
Speaker 2: then suddenly you weren't able to reconnect potentially with friends.
Speaker 2: And if you had a disability, or you're from a
Speaker 2: small kind of I guess community that was a little
Speaker 2: bit fringe, and your friend were in other states and
Speaker 2: other parts of you know, the country, then potentially you
Speaker 2: could have lost contact because I know stacks of kids
Speaker 2: that don't have numbers and phone numbers. They just interact
Speaker 2: via Snapchat.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I need an unequivocal, off the defence answer
Speaker 1: from you. Do you think it should have happened or not?
Speaker 1: Don't give me any nuance. I just want because it happened,
Speaker 1: so it's done. Yes or no? From Patrick James Bonello.
Speaker 1: Should it have happened? No? Okay, that's interesting. No, I
Speaker 1: respect yours. I here's what I want to say though,
Speaker 1: back to like you're going, okay, So there's all of
Speaker 1: these these big companies with trillion dollar this and trillion
Speaker 1: dollar that, and you are correct. I one hundred percent agree,
Speaker 1: And they're they're kind of making the decisions about what
Speaker 1: goes out into the world. Da da da. But what
Speaker 1: they're not making decisions about is what we individually look at.
Speaker 1: Yes they have some influence, of course, but I don't
Speaker 1: need to I don't. I couldn't really explain to you
Speaker 1: what snapchat is. I've never used it. There's a bunch
Speaker 1: of things I haven't used. There's a bunch of things
Speaker 1: I have. But you know, so what they are doing
Speaker 1: is pushing more and more options and I guess available
Speaker 1: whatever AI or things that we can interact with or
Speaker 1: use for good and bad. But like we I think,
Speaker 1: as a society, yes all of this is true, but
Speaker 1: we keep acting like we have no personal sovereignty or power.
Speaker 1: We are just puppets at the at the hands at
Speaker 1: the mercy of these puppeteers with AI and this and that,
Speaker 1: and we can't control our own feelings or reactions or
Speaker 1: choices and our future as fucked, not because of anything.
Speaker 1: I think that's complete bullshit. I think we every day
Speaker 1: get to choose what we look at, what we interact with,
Speaker 1: what we do, what we eat, whether or not we move,
Speaker 1: what job we do. You know, It's like, there's so
Speaker 1: much more to my future and my wellness and my
Speaker 1: purpose and my health and my mental and emotional existence
Speaker 1: to what these companies make available to me. And I
Speaker 1: think everyone needs to And I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: too fucking philosophical, but it's like this large percentage of
Speaker 1: the world to walking around going, oh, we're fucked, No
Speaker 1: we're not. We're only fucked if you say we're fucked
Speaker 1: and you let people control you, and you let nobody
Speaker 1: can control your decisions. And can these things be addictive? Sure?
Speaker 1: So are cigarette how many people don't smoke most, how
Speaker 1: many people don't use severe or serious drugs most, how
Speaker 1: many people are not alcoholics most? So we have a
Speaker 1: level of individual responsibility to go, yes, all this shit
Speaker 1: is happening, and as you say, mate, some of it's
Speaker 1: fucking terrible, and maybe some of the decisions that have
Speaker 1: been made shouldn't have happened and all that, but at
Speaker 1: some stage we've still got to go. Yeah, but what
Speaker 1: about you bro about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had this chat briefly in the last episode.
Speaker 2: I won't rehash it because we're talking about people being overweight,
Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, whatever you put in your mouth
Speaker 2: is your decision ultimately. But what I guess, and I
Speaker 2: agree with you and the reason that I said, and
Speaker 2: I guess I'd like to know what either of you
Speaker 2: think should we have had this band roll out to
Speaker 2: under sixteen, Tiff, did you think the band is a
Speaker 2: good thing or a bad thing or yet to know.
Speaker 3: You're not a good thing?
Speaker 2: Crago?
Speaker 1: My honest opinion is I'm not sure because I just
Speaker 1: haven't looked at it. I don't know, like I would
Speaker 1: feel disingenuous making a comment on like I would need
Speaker 1: to see some kind of evidence either way, not just
Speaker 1: a conversation. But I know I asked you to do
Speaker 1: the same thing. Okay, so I'm going to go my
Speaker 1: gut says, probably doesn't. No, I just rationalized that roundback
Speaker 1: to where I've asked you to do what I'm not
Speaker 1: going to do, So get off your fucking fence.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: I nearly said the S word. Ah, I know, Craig
Speaker 1: what did you think I was talking about.
Speaker 2: That's a big in my language, Craig, and say.
Speaker 1: That, look's I think probably it wouldn't. I don't know
Speaker 1: that it's going to make a massive difference, So I
Speaker 1: would be happy if it didn't happen. And I think
Speaker 1: this stuff is hard, right because it's it's provocative, and
Speaker 1: it arouses emotion in people, and once people are emotional,
Speaker 1: they are less logical, they are less practical. And also,
Speaker 1: most people about most topics of significance already have an opinion.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying knowledge or data. I'm saying they have
Speaker 1: an opinion, and very few people want to change their opinion.
Speaker 1: And I think that in itself is a problem, not
Speaker 1: that just to be able to be willing to go,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I think I got that wrong. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I got that wrong. And I've gotten so many
Speaker 1: fucking things wrong, even things that you and I have
Speaker 1: argued about in this podcast. I'm sure I maybe now
Speaker 1: share your idea, and but you just kind of OK.
Speaker 1: I think being open minded but also curious is the
Speaker 1: nice combination.
Speaker 2: And you know the reality of it is, when you
Speaker 2: impose a blanket ban, I realize what the essence of
Speaker 2: the idea behind it is and that is to protect
Speaker 2: children from you know, the onslaught of AI or the
Speaker 2: onslaught of social media, and you know the terrible perils
Speaker 2: there are online. And I want to protect kids as well.
Speaker 2: But isn't it more empowering to educate and guide and
Speaker 2: nurture and for parents to be proactive and teachers to
Speaker 2: be proactive. And you know, we educate people. So you
Speaker 2: know a lot of kids, you know, get told don't
Speaker 2: touch that because you'll get burnt. Now, some kids are
Speaker 2: going to touch it and get burnt and learn that
Speaker 2: exercise and learn that lesson themselves, but a lot of
Speaker 2: kids won't. If you sit down rationally and say this
Speaker 2: is what's happening, and this is why you shouldn't do this,
Speaker 2: then you know, you can have connected communities online and
Speaker 2: kids won't be isolated if they want to be able
Speaker 2: to engage with friends and people of their own age,
Speaker 2: but now can't. So I think that once we have
Speaker 2: a blanket ban, we're now enforcing something and it feels
Speaker 2: like a nanny state. And that's what I think prompted
Speaker 2: my no answer more than anything else, that I think
Speaker 2: that we should educate and nurture young people and help
Speaker 2: them and guide them and say, yes, this phone is fantastic.
Speaker 2: There's so many things you can do with it. However,
Speaker 2: there are problems. There are people online that you don't
Speaker 2: want to interact with, you know, there are connected communities
Speaker 2: that you probably shouldn't be connected with, or there are
Speaker 2: algorithms that are going to make your feed feel like
Speaker 2: you're playing a slot machine and you want to keep
Speaker 2: scrolling and scrolling and scrolling, scrolling and scrolling. I bought
Speaker 2: myself a new gadget recently, and I think this is
Speaker 2: kind of cool. Craigo, can you describe what I'm holding
Speaker 2: in my hand?
Speaker 1: Your penis or the other thing? All right, the other thing? Okay,
Speaker 1: so well I can't see your right hand, so I'm
Speaker 1: just assuming. So in his left hand, he's holding what
Speaker 1: looks like to be a hexagonal piece of steel. I
Speaker 1: would say it's tiff loves that. It's about forty mili
Speaker 1: dimensionally across and looks like it's about I don't know,
Speaker 1: fifty mil high, maybe thirty mil and it's got some
Speaker 1: kind of electronic timer or clock in the middle, and
Speaker 1: on the other end it looks like a hole, so
Speaker 1: it looks like something from the Space Program. It doesn't good,
Speaker 1: Thank goodness, we didn't go the other hand, But there
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: That looks like something from the Space program too.
Speaker 1: See see you don't need to open the door. I
Speaker 1: just need to tap on the door. People, get it right?
Speaker 2: You remember what Bezos's ship looked like? It was a
Speaker 2: giant penis. Remember when he took off in his big
Speaker 2: spaceship and they went out. You don't remember it anyway?
Speaker 2: Look so anyway I do.
Speaker 1: I do. That's because that was out of that movie.
Speaker 1: What was that movie called? No, it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a movie, No, no, no, I know. It
Speaker 1: was a real ship that looked like a cock. I
Speaker 1: remember that Cox just got a certain resonance, doesn't it
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't it? Well like, there's quite a few
Speaker 1: people who have them, So let's not get too overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a fair percentage of the population.
Speaker 2: What did you say, at fifty percent of the population,
Speaker 2: it's a fraction less yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Tiff, don't pretend like I mean. I mean,
Speaker 1: the listeners know, you.
Speaker 3: Know, the listeners are dying to know what Tim Patrick's
Speaker 3: left hand, that's what the listeners know, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you to bring you back on track to
Speaker 2: that thank you.
Speaker 1: It looks like something that should have gone extinct in
Speaker 1: the Amazon two billion years ago.
Speaker 2: Can I now talk about it?
Speaker 1: I've seen it, I've seen it. Just looks super fucking tired.
Speaker 2: Go on, Patrick, I'm just thinking about that new movie
Speaker 2: about the Amazon called Anaconda.
Speaker 1: Sorry yet, that's what the anaconda would eat as a
Speaker 1: fucking snack as a warm up? Okay? Can can you
Speaker 1: just say what that is? And can we get onto
Speaker 1: another topic? I think people are jumping off the ship.
Speaker 2: They are sorry, like the sst yp you reckon, Max
Speaker 2: and Mark is still listening because we've name dropped them. Now,
Speaker 2: there's no reason for them to keep listening.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'd be long gone. In fact, if anyone's listening,
Speaker 1: If anyone's still listening, I love you, But what is
Speaker 1: wrong with you? And why are you still here? Come on?
Speaker 1: What is that thing?
Speaker 2: So? What it is? It's a timer with pre set
Speaker 2: timer amounts so five, ten, thirty, twenty five, fifteen, And
Speaker 2: what what I what I got it for? Was I
Speaker 2: set this for a specific time period? They want to
Speaker 2: focus on a task and then I switch off all
Speaker 2: other distractions and I use it as a way to
Speaker 2: just focus on. I get distracted really easily. You know,
Speaker 2: clients call for tech support, phone calls come in. So
Speaker 2: what I've done is I've got.
Speaker 1: To know, you know, tip how he goes I get
Speaker 1: distracted easily. Then he has to give us ten examples
Speaker 1: of said distractions. Hey, you could have just stopped that
Speaker 1: I get distracted. We get it, we know what distractions are.
Speaker 1: We don't need your list. If I can carry on,
Speaker 1: We've got to get through some other shit. Carry on.
Speaker 2: You wasted more time berating me than I did giving examples.
Speaker 1: For one hundred in the hope that you won't do
Speaker 1: that in the future.
Speaker 2: Let me keep going for trying out loud Jesus anyway.
Speaker 1: Blaspheme, Mary listens, Sorry, Mary.
Speaker 2: We're talking blessed Virgin or your mother or both one
Speaker 2: and the same. Now, So this is a timer, that
Speaker 2: really is You're very quickly able to set a time
Speaker 2: for however long you want, and it gives you a countdown.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's a way to disconnect from technology
Speaker 2: without distractions. And I just thought it was a nice
Speaker 2: little mechanism to be able to demonstrate how I'm now
Speaker 2: effectively trying to not be distracted by technology by using technology.
Speaker 1: If can you edit out the last seven minutes? That
Speaker 1: was fucking the opposite of entertaining, wasn't it? Fuck? And hell,
Speaker 1: I want to fucking jump over the balcony right now.
Speaker 3: Gadget that Patrick can come in here with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can your phone not do the same? Can you
Speaker 1: not put it on flight mode? And your same your
Speaker 1: phone does the same thing? Anyway, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: not the tech guy, but it seems fucking unnecessary. Hey,
Speaker 1: great work, trick. Look at him. He looks like the
Speaker 1: little kid in the school yard up the corner. Just
Speaker 1: fucking no, mates, Ah, let's bring you back into the fold.
Speaker 1: Just do better. Five seven hundred years without recharging the
Speaker 1: diamond nuclear battery built to outlast civilization.
Speaker 2: That you are said, Fuck that, I've got a timer.
Speaker 1: If you can bring one of these into the studio,
Speaker 1: I'd be happy.
Speaker 2: Okay, now this is really this is actually kind of
Speaker 2: really interesting. Okay, So it's a carbon fourteen diamond battery.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're not talking about powering your phone for
Speaker 2: five and a half thousand years or powering a car,
Speaker 2: but there's a University of Bristol have been doing research
Speaker 2: into the decaying electrons that he used from carbon rods
Speaker 2: out of nuclear reactors and the slow release of these
Speaker 2: carbon rods. So the radiation effectively from the carbon rods
Speaker 2: in cased in diamond means that you don't get irradiated,
Speaker 2: but if you're in a probe into space, you could
Speaker 2: potentially keep powering it for nearly six thousand years.
Speaker 1: Wow wow yeah. Yeah. If you know that voice that
Speaker 1: you hate, yes, I'm not going to use it. Think
Speaker 1: of carbon rod said by that voice, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about?
Speaker 3: Don't ask about it. I don't want it to come out, your.
Speaker 2: Carbon carbon rod to come out?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah. Is that ever going to be a
Speaker 1: thing though, Like, is that ever going to be operational
Speaker 1: or is this just a hypothetical?
Speaker 2: No, no, Well they've been able to demonstrate that they
Speaker 2: can use it. So it's the it's the it's the
Speaker 2: UK Atomic Energy Authority, and they've teamed up your Bristol
Speaker 2: so that if look flict it's got start off as researches.
Speaker 2: But these because at the moment these carbon fourteen rods,
Speaker 2: they know they have a radioactive isotope and at the
Speaker 2: moment they use them for carbon dating, so if you know,
Speaker 2: when they measure how old the dinosaur bone is or
Speaker 2: something like that, So it's the same technology. So this
Speaker 2: is something that potentially, yeah, can be used and they
Speaker 2: need to do something with the carbon rods. So it
Speaker 2: sounds like it's a great way to use something that's
Speaker 2: going to be around for a long time and make
Speaker 2: it practical. So is it going to happen? Looks like
Speaker 2: it will. Yeah, I don't see why not.
Speaker 1: We'll stand by everybody. I like the next one because
Speaker 1: it's an intersection of science stuff and stuff that Tiff
Speaker 1: and I enjoy, which is kind of motorbikes electric or
Speaker 1: they call them e bikes, but they're essentially motorbikes. And
Speaker 1: before you tell us about the story, have you noticed,
Speaker 1: either of you, all of the stories on the New
Speaker 1: use about these swarms of e bikes, like literally one
Speaker 1: hundred kids at a time out on eboat bikes taking
Speaker 1: over roads and freeways and oh yeah, and some of
Speaker 1: them do one hundred and ten hundred and twenty kilometers. Now,
Speaker 1: they're essentially a motorbike, but they're riding them without helmets,
Speaker 1: and so that shit is I think that's that's going
Speaker 1: to have to be addressed really quickly, because just.
Speaker 3: Before I went back to Tazzy young boy I think
Speaker 3: he might have been fifteen, had an accident and passed
Speaker 3: away on an e bike.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so sad. And what people don't understand is
Speaker 1: like an e bike will out accelerate a lot of
Speaker 1: motorbikes because they're electric, so it's instant, instant talk, and
Speaker 1: that's one of that's why EV cars are so Yeah,
Speaker 1: zero to zero to one hundred and three seconds is
Speaker 1: heading towards common now with evs in the old days,
Speaker 1: like like a Ford Falcon with a three point fifty
Speaker 1: one will do it in seven seconds or eight seconds,
Speaker 1: and that was mind blowing. Yeah, they just so far. Sorry, mate,
Speaker 1: tell us the story if you would.
Speaker 2: So, government authorities, people who are in the medical industry
Speaker 2: and emergency departments are raising all these red flags and
Speaker 2: saying they're seeing so many more injuries with kids who
Speaker 2: are using these e bikes. And look, this is the
Speaker 2: tough one, isn't it. The reality of it is that, Yes,
Speaker 2: I think the biggest issue is the importation of bikes
Speaker 2: that exceed the speed limit. So there are two types
Speaker 2: of e devices we're talking about. So you've got scooters
Speaker 2: which are totally electric and they are limited. I think
Speaker 2: the speed limit in Victoria is twenty two kilometers in
Speaker 2: our maximum for an e But with an e bike
Speaker 2: it's slightly different because these e bikes they've got what
Speaker 2: we call battery assist or motor assisted, so you can
Speaker 2: pedal normally and then you can click into battery mode.
Speaker 2: And that's why they're allowed on the roads because they're
Speaker 2: effectively a bike, but they've also got a battery and
Speaker 2: a motor in them. But the ones you're talking about,
Speaker 2: they actually look like motorbikes and they are very, very
Speaker 2: very fast. So there's a very because the thing is
Speaker 2: on a pushbike you can go more than twenty two
Speaker 2: kilometers an hour, so you know, regardless of chronics. So
Speaker 2: the reality of it is when you then combine them
Speaker 2: with an e bike, yes, it is very fast. The
Speaker 2: challenge of course is again you know, I guess what
Speaker 2: are the legalities of the importation of these e bucks.
Speaker 2: We don't make them in Australia, we're just importing them.
Speaker 2: You can go to Big w and buy one there
Speaker 2: all over the place, and it comes down to well,
Speaker 2: you know, if someone's doing the wrong thing on the roads,
Speaker 2: whether you're doing the wrong thing as a cyclist, whether
Speaker 2: you're doing the wrong thing as an e bike rider
Speaker 2: or a motorist, then you can get pulled out by
Speaker 2: the police in charge. You can be fine. Mind, the
Speaker 2: issue of safety of young people being doing stupid things
Speaker 2: on a very very very powerful, quickly accelerating e bike
Speaker 2: is the big concern. But I wanted to touch on
Speaker 2: another article that is adjoining to this, because e bikes
Speaker 2: can be really really valuable for people who are less
Speaker 2: mobile and can assist them greatly. And the flip side
Speaker 2: to all of this is a study, a scientific study
Speaker 2: has found something really surprising that from a fitness perspective,
Speaker 2: people who are older, say fifty to eighty three. They
Speaker 2: did a research study between the age of fifty to
Speaker 2: eighty three and they found that people who are in
Speaker 2: their older stages of life using e bikes are actually
Speaker 2: healthier and mentally more focused because they're riding and they're
Speaker 2: being more active, and so there are measurable cognitive and
Speaker 2: mental health benefits from real cycling even though they're using
Speaker 2: a bike. So if they're using a traditional bike, now
Speaker 2: As people get older, then it's harder for them to
Speaker 2: use a pedal bike. But if they've got an e
Speaker 2: bike where they can get electric assists, then they're more
Speaker 2: likely to be independent and riding. And what the found is,
Speaker 2: and this is the lead research for a lady by
Speaker 2: the name of Louise and Leyland said that in real
Speaker 2: world urban environments it can make a really big difference
Speaker 2: because being outdoors, it adds sensory input, navigation, social interaction,
Speaker 2: and it can't be replicated by just doing some sort
Speaker 2: of exercise indoors. So howering older people and helping them
Speaker 2: stay on the road longer or helping them stay mobile
Speaker 2: longer using e by technology is going to be really beneficial.
Speaker 2: So if we suddenly ban e bikes because Alaric and
Speaker 2: kids are getting out there and they're riding too fast,
Speaker 2: what they're effectively doing is making it harder for older
Speaker 2: people who are going to get real that have benefits
Speaker 2: and physical benefits from riding e bikes. So I just
Speaker 2: wanted to throw two of them into the mix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, dude. I one hundred percent agree
Speaker 1: with that, lady, And you like that. The thing about it,
Speaker 1: it's all about like with everything. It's almost like dose dependent.
Speaker 1: People go, oh, that's bad. It depends on how much
Speaker 1: of it, or you know, like an e bike with
Speaker 1: I don't know, five hundred watts of power, which is
Speaker 1: what they come two hundred and fifty watts, which doesn't
Speaker 1: mean much to everyone, but that's like what they come
Speaker 1: out with. It's not a lot of power, right, and
Speaker 1: they actually won't go faster than twenty k's. But then
Speaker 1: when they've got bikes which you've got five thousand lots
Speaker 1: of power, which they also have five kilowatts, right, they've
Speaker 1: got these very very light things that are actually very
Speaker 1: high powered. And as you correctly point out, we're talking
Speaker 1: about different things that just happen to have the same name.
Speaker 1: And you think about an older person like TiVo, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's got she can ride the bike,
Speaker 1: she can pedal it, she can have some assist if
Speaker 1: she needs, and she's used her brain, as you suggested,
Speaker 1: to navigate potential threats and dangers, and she's solving problems
Speaker 1: in real time and she can Yeah, I agree, And
Speaker 1: I wish that my only caveat would be with the
Speaker 1: older older people, which sounds hilarious, but maybe tricycles, not bicycles,
Speaker 1: just for I definitely wouldn't want Ronald Mary out on
Speaker 1: one of them. I think everyone around Maybe it depends
Speaker 1: on the individual, of course, but maybe around seventy seventy
Speaker 1: five we should start thinking about something with a bit
Speaker 1: more stability than two wheels. But other than that, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a great I hadn't really thought of it, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good highlight. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a motorbike that came out that we were
Speaker 2: talking about on the show a few years ago that
Speaker 2: had some sort of internal gyroscope that made it more stable?
Speaker 2: Do you remember that.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I don't know that ever went to production,
Speaker 1: but I remember that there's but there is. I think
Speaker 1: there's one motorbike that you push a button at the
Speaker 1: lights and little wheels come out at the back, like
Speaker 1: training wheels, So as you roll up to the light,
Speaker 1: seas little wheels come out, so you literally don't even
Speaker 1: have to put your feet down.
Speaker 2: That's for you, mate.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think, I mean, honestly, as I
Speaker 1: get older, I think a lot about these, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm dealing with mum and dad right now, and
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we like. There are so many things,
Speaker 1: and we've spoken about this maybe once. But if I
Speaker 1: had all the dough in the world and I could
Speaker 1: just I could do whatever I want. One of the
Speaker 1: things I would do is I would get an acre
Speaker 1: of space and I would build a playground for people
Speaker 1: over sixty five and essentially a playground, and make it
Speaker 1: as safe as humanly possible. People would get coached the
Speaker 1: first time or two on how to use everything, and
Speaker 1: I would make it free. If the government did that,
Speaker 1: I would respect the government, just because you know, we
Speaker 1: don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old
Speaker 1: because we stop playing and play for grown ups, and
Speaker 1: I mean real play, physical play in a balanced strength, coordination, fitness,
Speaker 1: muscular endurance, aerobic endurance, spatial awareness, interaction with others, socializing.
Speaker 1: If you could build something like that that people used regularly,
Speaker 1: such a fucking three dimensional physical, mental, emotional, healthy thing
Speaker 1: for people to do.
Speaker 2: That is the best thing ever. One of my Do
Speaker 2: you remember my friend Tina.
Speaker 1: Who I do, Oh yeah, she's nice, she's nice.
Speaker 2: In our early thirties, she decided for her birthday that
Speaker 2: would go and do a McDonald's party, and we're told
Speaker 2: off by the management for using the playground equipment at macas.
Speaker 1: Who's that old cunt sliding down that tube and pushing
Speaker 1: that all year old ahead of him?
Speaker 2: But I think it was in Pran and so it
Speaker 2: was one of those big indoor things with tubes and
Speaker 2: we're crawling all right, asked to leave by the manager. Yeah, shocked.
Speaker 2: We also went to a video shop once on someone
Speaker 2: else's birthday wearing a pajamas and moccasins. Yeah, but see
Speaker 2: the adult play I think that you're right though. I
Speaker 2: think that's a great idea, you.
Speaker 1: Know, mate, I'm not kidding. I would go. I would
Speaker 1: legit go because how fun is climbing fucking swinging, like balancing? Oh?
Speaker 1: You tif you would fucking love it. You'd love it, mate,
Speaker 1: I'd love it. So many people I know, like, once
Speaker 1: you get over your bullshit, your ego, your fucking self importance,
Speaker 1: fuck all that. That's all unhealthy, emotional fucking shit. Just
Speaker 1: go down. Put your ego at the front door, and
Speaker 1: your self esteem fuck it. Put those in the lockers
Speaker 1: next to your stinky socks and just fucking get out there.
Speaker 1: Just But I bet half of our audience or more
Speaker 1: ago and fuck I would actually do that. That would
Speaker 1: be good.
Speaker 2: Couldn't we just put a sign outside just average playgrounds
Speaker 2: and say between this time and this time adults only.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know, but because I think the children's
Speaker 1: playgrounds wouldn't be ideal for the for the oldies, so
Speaker 1: I would I would design that environment so government, I
Speaker 1: will do that for free free. I will never charge
Speaker 1: you one cent. If you give me the financial resources
Speaker 1: and the space, I'll develop this for you for free.
Speaker 1: And I will get a team of volunteers who will
Speaker 1: also work for free that I will train and will
Speaker 1: revolutionize aged care. So there you go. I don't know
Speaker 1: that this will ever get to them, but you know,
Speaker 1: if you choose to do that, I'm in. I'm on board.
Speaker 1: I'd almost almost make that my purpose for at least
Speaker 1: year or two. How good would it be? Like that
Speaker 1: excites me? Yeah, doing that for free excites me. Then
Speaker 1: getting a high paid gig like truly give me that
Speaker 1: project because that's such a fucking great thing for people.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind being your crash test dummy on that too.
Speaker 2: You know, I'd be there it all out.
Speaker 1: Like if I if I pulled that off and I said, mate,
Speaker 1: would you volunteer ten hours a week? Tip, would you
Speaker 1: volunteer whatever? Five?
Speaker 3: Ten?
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive you'd both go yes, and Patrick you'd
Speaker 1: probably go. Can I do more?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to go home now, you know,
Speaker 1: and if maybe you as well, I have to go home? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can I just sleep on the big fucking that ropeie
Speaker 1: thing over there that you know? What's that? Like that
Speaker 1: webbing that they have like that, like the giant mesh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How good would it be? All right, let's let's not
Speaker 1: get way laid with my dreams and visions for the elderly.
Speaker 2: Well, can we bring dogs with as crago? Because I
Speaker 2: think that's important. Lunar and Fritzi should be.
Speaker 1: There as long as I think dogs, and I think
Speaker 1: you know what also like for a little period of time,
Speaker 1: like a care or a person. But I would have
Speaker 1: it staffed. It would have to be set hours, and
Speaker 1: you'd have to have at least one or two. Well,
Speaker 1: if I know, there's a bunch of shits sort out,
Speaker 1: but you sort it out. It's like with every good thing,
Speaker 1: there are always hiccups and problems and things to resolve
Speaker 1: and work around. But what I love is I love
Speaker 1: the idea truly of doing something for nothing. Then people
Speaker 1: can't question you. You know, there's no agenda. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to open a fucking this. There's not going to
Speaker 1: be anything sold via this. I want people to volunteer.
Speaker 1: I might step away in two years and someone else
Speaker 1: takes over. But I think when you go, and I know,
Speaker 1: it's very rare when I truly have no agenda, no
Speaker 1: commercial interest, and if there was some way that money
Speaker 1: was made from it, I don't want it, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So yeah, I just think that
Speaker 1: that is anyway, let's not get too weird and deep.
Speaker 2: Patrick, Well, i'd just say just on the same theme.
Speaker 2: A few years ago, my friends who lived down the
Speaker 2: road from you were Christmas. I think they got me
Speaker 2: a voucher to a rock climbing place. Now I've done
Speaker 2: a lot of rock climbing over the years. It was
Speaker 2: my kind of chosen sport. And they got me a
Speaker 2: voucher and they came with me to this rock climbing
Speaker 2: gym and I thought this is for kids. You know.
Speaker 2: They had harnesses where you could step up poles and
Speaker 2: climb up, and I thought, it's not real rock climbing. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously I was really excited to just be
Speaker 2: with my friends anyway, but it was very much like
Speaker 2: a kid's playground type gym. Oh my god, I had
Speaker 2: the best time ever. It was so cool because the
Speaker 2: harness is rather than needing a blayer, so a blayer
Speaker 2: is when you go climbing, say indoor and potentially outdoors
Speaker 2: as well, you can do as well. It's called top
Speaker 2: roping where you put on a harness, You've got a
Speaker 2: rope attached to you, someone that's holding the other end
Speaker 2: of the rope, and you start to free climb and
Speaker 2: then they pull the rope up in that way if
Speaker 2: you fall, it takes the fall, where in this case
Speaker 2: they had this automatic mechanism that allows you to be
Speaker 2: able to clip in. You start climbing and it takes
Speaker 2: you up automatically, so it doesn't matter if you fall.
Speaker 2: It was a bit nerve wracking for me, who had
Speaker 2: done rock climbing, to think that I didn't have a bulayer.
Speaker 2: It was all automatic. That was a bit scary. That
Speaker 2: was the most thing for me. But one of the
Speaker 2: things that I liked the most is they had a
Speaker 2: series of poles and you step up onto one pole,
Speaker 2: so just the width of a normal pole in the
Speaker 2: ground like a ballard, and they progressively got higher and
Speaker 2: higher and higher, and they went round in a circle
Speaker 2: and you had to try to jump from one to
Speaker 2: the next, to the next to the next, and it
Speaker 2: was so much fun and it just made me think
Speaker 2: about it when you were talking about a playground for adults,
Speaker 2: you know, those sorts of things, and you know it
Speaker 2: was geared at kids, but adults were obviously able to
Speaker 2: do that. You know, there was another wall where you
Speaker 2: could compete with somebody else to climb as high as
Speaker 2: you could, and then when you got to the top,
Speaker 2: you hit the button and it locked. It locked in
Speaker 2: your time, so you actually have a time speed climb
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think you want to kill
Speaker 1: old people. I want to. I want to. You know,
Speaker 1: old people cannot do any of that. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: old people. I'm not talking about strong, healthy, fifty five
Speaker 1: year olds or whatever the fuck you are.
Speaker 3: But straining for the next Ninja warrior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, have you actually met an old person?
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. Come up to La
Speaker 1: Tri Valley to the Ron and Mary Show and you'll
Speaker 1: go Ah, there it is. I get it. I want
Speaker 1: to know about I kind of want to know. But
Speaker 1: I asked this question with trepidation. Optional underwear? Fuck the
Speaker 1: pros and cons of going commando?
Speaker 2: Study and I thought it might be something interesting.
Speaker 1: Notice how his voice went real high that time, Tip,
Speaker 1: it went up four octaves. You know he's a bit
Speaker 1: nervous or gonna bullshit when his voice goes up so
Speaker 1: many octaves.
Speaker 2: Okay, Can I just ask the question, there's anybody can
Speaker 2: commando today?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I no, I've never gone commander in my life. I
Speaker 1: don't think we should ask tiff that.
Speaker 3: I think that's today.
Speaker 2: Great. Oh that's really good to know.
Speaker 1: Did you say great underpants?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Well? You open the door? What makes them great? When
Speaker 1: I say you opened the door? No, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I realize that can be metaphoric in many ways. I
Speaker 1: just mean I'm not talking about oh fuck help, I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about the conversational door.
Speaker 3: Continue on.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. There's some stats out of the United States that
Speaker 2: say that a poll of American people, about seven percent
Speaker 2: of Americans so they always go commando, and about say
Speaker 2: that they often go without underwear. Now, I don't think
Speaker 2: I ever have gone Commando. The whole idea of put
Speaker 2: on a pair of genes and not being able to
Speaker 2: get everything or feels cares.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I know what are the alleged benefits.
Speaker 2: Well, for men, it's more about being able to have
Speaker 2: the you know, you not being constricted because when you
Speaker 2: bring your testicles too close to your body, they heat up,
Speaker 2: and they because they should. The reason that they're external
Speaker 2: is because for sperm production, they know it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be better for you. So you're potentially lowering your sperm
Speaker 2: count if you wear tight underwear.
Speaker 1: What if I bring my testicles close to you? Is
Speaker 1: that the same? Also on this topic, we've had a
Speaker 1: guy on the show called Lucas aon Who's uh Lucas,
Speaker 1: He's no, he's great, he's great. He's in the integrative
Speaker 1: kind of space and the bio hacker space, and he's
Speaker 1: right up there. He's like one of the I don't know,
Speaker 1: top ten in the world's highly regarded. But he's always
Speaker 1: banging on about icing your balls always yeah I know what, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, icing your balls. Just look it up icing
Speaker 1: testical icing.
Speaker 2: Dow algorithm algorithm.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying to you, right, now I'm saying
Speaker 1: that if some of the boys out there want to
Speaker 1: find out, we'll just say, what are the benefits of
Speaker 1: icing your testicles? It's goods clinical, there's not going to
Speaker 1: Hopefully no pictures come up. Oh he's a photo of
Speaker 1: the step one. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Patrick's just gone to get the ice cube tray out
Speaker 3: of his freezer.
Speaker 1: Do you know what interests me on this this Patrick?
Speaker 1: The fact that only seven petrol powered cars sold in
Speaker 1: Norway last month, seven in the whole country changing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, evidently it helps increase testos thrown levels and sperm quality,
Speaker 2: boost energy and sex drive, and improves sleep quality. Oh
Speaker 2: that could be good for sleep quality. I better check
Speaker 2: my face.
Speaker 1: Are we're talking about petrol cars or.
Speaker 2: I'm still icing nuts?
Speaker 1: Right? So just say that again.
Speaker 4: Sorry, benefits, well, sperm quality, sleep, all those sorts of things. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just said it and I closed the window.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, but it was faced
Speaker 2: the right amount of time. I don't want to end
Speaker 2: up frozen jets crackers.
Speaker 1: Well, if you can do that for your one, I'm
Speaker 1: just asking chatters, do you know what you need to get?
Speaker 1: Get an egg cup with really cold water in it? Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, Maybe I don't know. Maybe you figure out
Speaker 1: your own protocol. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: How about I will if you do for a week
Speaker 2: and then the next episode will report back.
Speaker 1: Fuck, no, no chance. You do it. You do it.
Speaker 1: You do it for the good of the show and
Speaker 1: the good of science, and we don't need any videos,
Speaker 1: all right. Talk to us about Norway only selling seven
Speaker 1: cars that are petrol powered in a whole month of
Speaker 1: car sales.
Speaker 2: That interesting? Yeah, so there was for the month of January,
Speaker 2: the twenty nine hybrids were sold and ninety eight diesel
Speaker 2: cars were sold. Okay, so we're talking diesel, but battery
Speaker 2: electric took more than two thousand sold and only seven
Speaker 2: actual petrol cars. So they're switch over from you know,
Speaker 2: petrol power to EV has been amazing, and so that
Speaker 2: was just the I guess the biggest uptake of any
Speaker 2: country in the world has been in Norway. That's a
Speaker 2: pretty interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find out what your guess without
Speaker 1: looking the population of Norway.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, maybe I don't know, eight thousand people,
Speaker 2: eight million people, sorry, eight million, Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is that good? What's your guess? Norway.
Speaker 3: I'm not good at that game.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, just because I was thinking two thousand cars
Speaker 1: is not a lot of cars to sell in a month.
Speaker 1: But the answer is about five and a half million,
Speaker 1: five point six, So you're not Yeah, because I could
Speaker 1: have guessed anything between three and forty. I wouldn't know,
Speaker 1: So you're way accurate, more accurate than I would have been. Perfect.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more and then let's hit
Speaker 1: the frog and toad. You choose, bro, you choose something
Speaker 1: that fascinates you or I can.
Speaker 2: No, I will. I will a new start up. And
Speaker 2: this look, I don't know whether you this. I don't
Speaker 2: want to sound morbid, but thinking about death, I came
Speaker 2: to a decision that I wanted to be cremated. And
Speaker 2: then I thought, well, then what happens to my ashes?
Speaker 2: And now I know? I am so excited about this
Speaker 2: a start I saw this a startup as talking about
Speaker 2: being able to send a thousand people's ashes into space affordably.
Speaker 2: And we're talking as soon as twenty twenty seven. So
Speaker 2: there's a guy who's the founder, Ryan Mitchell. He founded
Speaker 2: a company called Space Beyond, and this stems back to
Speaker 2: when he was just a young guy looking at the sky,
Speaker 2: and he'd been to a recently, had been to the
Speaker 2: death of a relative and they were cremated, and he
Speaker 2: went to an ash spreading ceremony, and then he thought,
Speaker 2: now what it's over, you know, So in this case,
Speaker 2: I just thought that would be so cool to be
Speaker 2: able to get my ashes into space. Look. I think
Speaker 2: it's because remember we've spoken this on our show a
Speaker 2: few times about my bucket list. So I've got two
Speaker 2: bucket lists. I've got the bucket list of things that
Speaker 2: are achievable and the bucket list of things that are
Speaker 2: never going to happen. And so the achievable one is, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to go to Japan and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: But the bucket list of unachievables is going into space.
Speaker 2: But I like the idea of my ashes being fired
Speaker 2: off into space. I think that would be amazing. And
Speaker 2: also it would be cool because when you say, well,
Speaker 2: people are going to go visit you, Crago, would you
Speaker 2: go visit.
Speaker 1: Look if you're in space, probably not, but I would
Speaker 1: look at you through my telescope that I would buy,
Speaker 1: of course at eight thousand X. And I wonder if
Speaker 1: that star.
Speaker 2: Is Patrick, Well, we're all made of stardust anyway. So
Speaker 2: I like the idea of returning, But isn't that the
Speaker 2: coolest things just me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's you. That's you. It's not the all
Speaker 1: this thing. But I respect that it is for you
Speaker 1: because my critical mind goes, okay.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Prove to me that I am in there, Like you
Speaker 1: put a thousand people's ashes in there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you? Or do you just go to empty a
Speaker 1: few ashtrays and go that's Brian, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cynical, And I'm thinking, are they like a thousand
Speaker 2: separate little compartments?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's my my like if that was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, let okay, let's not be cynical. If that's
Speaker 1: true and you or party you will being, then I
Speaker 1: think it's for you. It's fucking amazing like me just
Speaker 1: understanding how you work and what you love, and if
Speaker 1: that was true, then I definitely think it's for you.
Speaker 1: Fucking great.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 2: I decided recently as well, Craigo. I've got the ashes
Speaker 2: of my first dog and and hopefully Fritz is going
Speaker 2: to be with me for another a long, long, long time.
Speaker 2: But part of my will will be to have my
Speaker 2: dog's ashes added to my ashes as well.
Speaker 1: I just thought, fuck, how can I make fun of you? Now?
Speaker 1: Can you stop?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: Isn't that nice?
Speaker 1: Well it's beautiful?
Speaker 2: But yeah I want so Fitzi and Ferdinand, my two dogs,
Speaker 2: will be with me forever. Isn't it great? And then
Speaker 2: we could be space together.
Speaker 1: Well, can I just say you're probably going to live
Speaker 1: a thirty another thirty years, so there's a fair chance
Speaker 1: there'll be a third and maybe a fourth dog. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not that Fritz is not going to live forty years,
Speaker 1: be the first Schnauzer in the world to live to forty.
Speaker 1: But on the off chance that he dies, let's say thirty,
Speaker 1: there might be another dog. Tell people how to find
Speaker 1: you yep.
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Speaker 2: and if you want to chat to us, we want
Speaker 2: to talk about it, thinks Max and Mark. Feel free
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Speaker 1: If people want to get punched in the face by
Speaker 1: you or in a group where they could potentially get
Speaker 1: punched in the face by you, do you have any
Speaker 1: spots like it? Can people come to your group or
Speaker 1: are they kind of closed now because you're a big
Speaker 1: deal and famous?
Speaker 3: They can absolutely come to my group by training people
Speaker 3: at nine am on a Sunday, I only do one
Speaker 3: group session a week. Is it a closed little studio
Speaker 3: in Sinkira and it's epic? Ah?
Speaker 1: So email us at at my website if you have
Speaker 1: a website. I know you have an email of course,
Speaker 1: or tell people say again tifcook dot com. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: if you want to go get punched in the face, Patrick, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about the ring. You've done. Well,
Speaker 1: I can see you restraining yourself over there. Well done.
Speaker 2: I was actually thinking I was going to ask Tiff
Speaker 2: if maybe I could come along one Sunday morning. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize you did it at nine am. Can I come?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: This is good. I'm definitely coming to that. I am
Speaker 1: fucking filming the shit out of that with me. Will
Speaker 1: you be gentle with me? No? Sucking man up. Go
Speaker 1: over there, put on your gloves, get the fuck punched
Speaker 1: out of you by an almost girl.
Speaker 3: And thing session. That session, it's it's all strength.
Speaker 1: Hey, tif, Tiff, Tiff, it is a boxing session.
Speaker 3: When Patrick comes, I'll have the gloves on hand.
Speaker 1: All right, we got to We've got to go. Patrick.
Speaker 1: Don't start a new conversations. Okay, all right, you kids
Speaker 1: will say goodbye affair, but everyone thank you. Say goodbye team. Bye, team,