WEBVTT - #2106 More Podcast Mayhem - Patrick Bonello

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it same, it's Harps, it's Patrick and Tiffany. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been told off nine times on my own fucking show

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<v Speaker 1>in the first five minutes. This is the third time

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<v Speaker 1>I've started a recording because apparently I overmodulate. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Patrick fucking undermodulates and look at the results he produces,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think over modulation is the way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Tis been insulted two times, as she's called a cat

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<v Speaker 1>a little fuckstick nine times. Patrick's trying to make me

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<v Speaker 1>more technically capable. None of it's working. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>shit fest. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Over and out. Patrick, Do you think that there's any

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<v Speaker 1>chance that you could mold me into what you need

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<v Speaker 1>me to be like? Because I'm just born to fit

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<v Speaker 1>in for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a miracle worker. I'm just an engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just an engineer. Oh, that's funny. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>some inaptitude. Is that what you're saying straight into the

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<v Speaker 1>mic when I get excited?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Oh, okay, so we're talking about you getting hyper

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<v Speaker 2>excited every time the three of us are together, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just your volume goes up. See my pitch goes up,

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<v Speaker 2>and you always say that I'm a girl because I

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<v Speaker 2>get excited and my pitch goes up.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get nothing wrong with being a girl, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so your volume goes up and my inflections go higher,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's not a mad thing. It's great that we

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<v Speaker 2>get so excited with me together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's great that we have such a

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<v Speaker 1>representation of you know people, because you're a boy pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much like like like you death, no sit down. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, he's just going to show us mister snufflepagus,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you hell, keep that shit. Yeah, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>more offended than Tiff. Keep that well away. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's Tiff. I mean, god, bless so hard to be

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<v Speaker 1>a girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you own a dress? We were joking before we

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<v Speaker 1>went live, like a dress there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are there are a few dresses in my cupboard that

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<v Speaker 3>have not had a run for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to wear a dress in Cairns next month.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have to wear a dress? Like do

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<v Speaker 1>they determine? Oh, because you've got to do's.

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<v Speaker 3>A gala event at the end of the conference that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know in Australia that's known as that's that's in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a gala event, so go in feathers.

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<v Speaker 3>I might just do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do that, Kansas and hot and muggy. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>it be better wearing a dress? Wouldn't it be more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Well defined, comfortable mate.

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<v Speaker 1>Emotionally and mentally distressing for her physically? Perhaps?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, could you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Hybrid like? Were it killed instead?

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<v Speaker 3>I have pulled the jumpsuit card for as many times

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<v Speaker 3>as I can, just trying to get by with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. Patrick's got several of those. You girls could

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<v Speaker 1>get together and fucking just sort through and see what

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<v Speaker 1>looks good on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know I wore I wore I went surfing

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<v Speaker 2>at the weekend and I put on my.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on hang on, you went surfing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well it wasn't quite so it was bottom. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a boogie board. Okay, that's still hitting the surf,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's the most accurate you can be. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to the beach. We believe that, but hey, everyone, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>The takeaway from that was that when I when I

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<v Speaker 2>left k Rock and Geelong, my going away gift was

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<v Speaker 2>a rip curl full piece of wet suit and I

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<v Speaker 2>dug it out of the cupboard and it fits. I

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<v Speaker 2>still fit into my thirty year old wetsuit. How good

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<v Speaker 2>is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, firstly, nobody goes to the beach and gets in

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<v Speaker 1>a wet suit. It's summer.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's cold. It was span of water, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a cold day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're soft, bro. If have you ever served, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't ever served. You'd probably be good at it

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<v Speaker 1>because you're annoyingly fucking athletic.

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<v Speaker 2>Better than me.

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<v Speaker 1>My first mate, Patrick will just be on the beach

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<v Speaker 1>eating sandwiches together, holding hands.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you what it's great for washing out

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<v Speaker 2>your sinuses when you get dumped that salt water in

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<v Speaker 2>the mouth, through the nose, out the nostrils. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have tried that three years ago for my ears.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have avoided three years of ear turmoil. Anyway, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome Patrick. We do love you, and if we do

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<v Speaker 1>love you, please send a photos of you in address.

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<v Speaker 1>If that doesn't get traction in typ Land, put that

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<v Speaker 1>up in the group me or Tiff, both of you

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what, I'm sure everyone would love to

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<v Speaker 1>see you in a dress as well, or as you

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<v Speaker 1>call it, Tuesday, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you that I actually once went to a drag

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<v Speaker 2>party and shocked up in address no no once. I

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<v Speaker 2>lived at it once. So it was a closed party.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a public thing. And should I tell the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you need to mention closed. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we realized when you go to a party, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking public event. True. Where was it? I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the city square? Okay, just me and nine thousand

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<v Speaker 1>other people. All right, So you went to this this

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<v Speaker 1>closed event. Tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the theme was drag, and so I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm going to go as just any old drag,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go as a queen. The queen. So

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine had a girlfriend who was coming,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was a makeup artist. So she spent over

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<v Speaker 2>an hour in the chair, had a wig and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course I couldn't see what she was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when she finished, she got the mirror out

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<v Speaker 2>and I was looking at Queen Elizabeth. It was amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was the most phenomenal transformation. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>whole night I just walked around with the handbag pul

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<v Speaker 2>necklace on behalf of my husband to day. It gave

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<v Speaker 2>me great pleasure to be there and I just spoke

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<v Speaker 2>like that for the whole evening. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to do the whole podcast and that

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<v Speaker 1>can I just mention old firstly, Patrick, sorry I cut

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<v Speaker 1>you short a bit, good story. And also I could

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<v Speaker 1>see you I was going to say pulling off the queen.

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<v Speaker 1>As that came into my little filter that I have

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<v Speaker 1>in my brain, I'm thinking, I'm not sure that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best term, but let me say impersonating the queen

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<v Speaker 1>rather than then the other option. I could see you

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<v Speaker 1>doing that quite well. If I just want to mention

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<v Speaker 1>before we actually do what Patrick's meant to do, which

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<v Speaker 1>is share stuff of a technical nature, technological nature. I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed before the show that every time you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>your cat, the word fucking is associated to it. Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>have you know she had my fucking cat?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I shut the door, I'm like, cool, I'll shut

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<v Speaker 3>shut the door, and next minute minute from under the.

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<v Speaker 2>Desk, I'm like, where the fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you you go? I could have said something so

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<v Speaker 1>funny then, but I can't go on, so I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no it's two years eight, all right, Patrick, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show officially, Why don't you start with whatever

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<v Speaker 1>story you want to start with. Then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>read as going to say patronizingly, your little list. See

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<v Speaker 1>I've got myself. Well I didn't mean it like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but in my head, your little list, And then I thought, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not very respectful, it's quite patronizing. So I'll read

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<v Speaker 1>your big list while you're yacking to us and think

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<v Speaker 1>about what's up next. So what do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>lead off with? What's got your attention this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just get something off my chest? Because I've

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<v Speaker 2>been annoyed this week. So every time I've opened a pdf,

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<v Speaker 2>my Adobe pdf reader says, this appears to be a

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<v Speaker 2>long document. Save time by reading a summary by an

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<v Speaker 2>AI assistant, And It's like, fuck off, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>read the whole bloody thing. Don't tell me what the

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<v Speaker 2>best part of this bloody pdf is. I'll decide what

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of this pdf. Adobe. Stop it. Stop

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<v Speaker 2>telling me you're going to summarize my bloody article. Stop

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<v Speaker 2>telling me that I don't need to read it, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell? I want to use my brain? Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>now I've got it off my chest. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is spoken authorized by pissed up Patrick Ja

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of Banella, is just Banillo. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't open too many PDFs, but oh I do a few,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe, but I get shit coming up all the

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<v Speaker 1>time in that going Hey, use this or we can

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<v Speaker 1>summarize that for you and would you like to? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm with you. I think you just got I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going away. That's only going to get more prevalent,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, And I'm just like, nah, I'm good. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't know. I think navigating from an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional and a mental health point of view, for us

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<v Speaker 1>as individuals, navigating the AI landscape without getting sucked into

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<v Speaker 1>it and becoming a non thinking, unaware, fucking cyborg in

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<v Speaker 1>its orbit is a real responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're absolutely right. And it's interesting because last time

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<v Speaker 2>we did a podcast and occasionally we ask listeners for feedback,

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, we've had two lots of listeners contact

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<v Speaker 2>us during the week. One is Mark Keo.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark is a trainer and does first aid training in

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<v Speaker 2>Western Australia. Really nice guy and he was Hey Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Mark, great, glad you listened to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>He drives Tiff doesn't want you here, clearly because she

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<v Speaker 1>said so from Patrick. So from Patrick and I Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>we alpha males love you Tiff not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, yeah. Evidently he spends a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>on the road in his car, so he has very

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<v Speaker 2>little options but to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure there's a few I'm sure there's a

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<v Speaker 1>few other things available on the interwebs.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing but than top.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, go and tell us about Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was saying that he was listening to an

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<v Speaker 2>episode of Rogan and Musk, and Elon Musk has been

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<v Speaker 2>quoted as saying that within five to six years that

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<v Speaker 2>phones will not have any apps on them, and AI

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<v Speaker 2>will predict what it is you want to do and

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<v Speaker 2>serve it up. So I was thinking, as I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting annoyed at Adobe my PDF reader, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>the worst possible case scenario to have my phone through

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<v Speaker 2>AI decide what I want. And I just thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was quite an interesting reference that Mark made to the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that AI is just absolutely taking over our damn lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with you, but why does that predictive

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing about what you want to know? Why

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<v Speaker 1>does that bother you?

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<v Speaker 2>So much because it takes the decision making process out

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<v Speaker 2>of my hands. There's got to be a point.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it though? Does it? Can't you just go no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's said. What he's saying is there won't be

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<v Speaker 2>any apps on your phone. You turn your phone on,

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<v Speaker 2>there are no apps.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my here's my will. I will bet one million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in six years. There are apps one?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, TI, if you're writing that down right, yep, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw you're writing it down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>He's calling them edge nodes, and so you'll skip the

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<v Speaker 2>manual app when you're navigating, and the edge nodes will

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<v Speaker 2>just do whatever it is you're thinking. You think you

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<v Speaker 2>need to do, or he thinks you need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only problem is Elon didn't agree to

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<v Speaker 1>my bets. So unless you want it, you two want

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<v Speaker 1>to go in Harvey's and give me half a million each? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>No tips out, just giving me the big wave off.

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<v Speaker 1>And also let's just get through our listeners. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to send send fuck it, send it

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<v Speaker 1>to Patrick. Yeah, what's your email? Ag don't send them

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<v Speaker 1>to me? No. I love you though, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>the tech answering, dude, what's your email again? Mate?

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<v Speaker 2>I just just go to websites now, dot com dot

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<v Speaker 2>au and then you can fill out the contact form

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<v Speaker 2>and just all right you want to ask, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about MAXI young, Maxwell, Peggy who and you something?

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had two interactive kind of questions in relation to AI,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess the one that Maxwell high Maxwell. This

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<v Speaker 2>is where you say, Hi Maxwell, or do you hate

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<v Speaker 2>him as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell? What is wrong with you? Fucking It's not all

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<v Speaker 1>about you, you reckon. You can pay attention to the

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<v Speaker 1>show for one and like be like you're actually part

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<v Speaker 1>of the fucking crew here. You're not meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>fucking looking at your computer like you're some person in

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<v Speaker 1>the background just fucking editing.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi Maxwell, I hope you're really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking Hell, I don't think he bought it.

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<v Speaker 2>Go on Patrick Well to quote Maxwell AI fuck terrifying. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>nice quote. I like that. So basically, the question he's

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<v Speaker 2>asking is who controls digital reality? Because when you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it, it's only a very very small, massively massive

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<v Speaker 2>wealthy amount of tech companies that now control search, social media, messaging,

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<v Speaker 2>video consumption, digital advertising. Because you think about it. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>more than fifty percent of all the content that we're

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<v Speaker 2>now seeing online is generated by AI and those algorithms

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<v Speaker 2>that we're looking at when we see a YouTube reel

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<v Speaker 2>and then another reel comes up because they want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep you on the app or social media. So the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of it is it's a very very small amount

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<v Speaker 2>of people who have this ridiculous amount of power. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a frightening thought. And I know we've discussed this

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<v Speaker 2>before because we're talking trillion dollar companies, not million, not billion,

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<v Speaker 2>but trillion dollar companies that have so much power and

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<v Speaker 2>influence And where's the oversight you know we're trying. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>on the tenth of December last year, we saw that

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<v Speaker 2>social media became restricted for under sixteens. Now, some smarter

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<v Speaker 2>under sixteens have got around that. Some parents have managed

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<v Speaker 2>to keep their kids on socials by basically, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fudging the system and you know, making out of them

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<v Speaker 2>who has that social media. So you know, people have

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<v Speaker 2>got round the bands to a degree in Australia. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's controversial in itself too because I mean I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of digressing a little bit, but one of the articles

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to talk about today was young people

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<v Speaker 2>who are now feeling like they're exceptionally isolated because they've

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<v Speaker 2>lost all their friends in terms of being able to

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<v Speaker 2>interact on the likes of Snapchat and not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to contact friends. And you know, the tenth of December

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<v Speaker 2>was right at the end of the school right at

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the school holidays, and suddenly this blanket

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<v Speaker 2>band came out, And so if you were fourteen or fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>then suddenly you weren't able to reconnect potentially with friends.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you had a disability, or you're from a

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<v Speaker 2>small kind of I guess community that was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit fringe, and your friend were in other states and

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<v Speaker 2>other parts of you know, the country, then potentially you

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<v Speaker 2>could have lost contact because I know stacks of kids

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<v Speaker 2>that don't have numbers and phone numbers. They just interact

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<v Speaker 2>via Snapchat.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I need an unequivocal, off the defence answer

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<v Speaker 1>from you. Do you think it should have happened or not?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't give me any nuance. I just want because it happened,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's done. Yes or no? From Patrick James Bonello.

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<v Speaker 1>Should it have happened? No? Okay, that's interesting. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>respect yours. I here's what I want to say though,

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<v Speaker 1>back to like you're going, okay, So there's all of

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<v Speaker 1>these these big companies with trillion dollar this and trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar that, and you are correct. I one hundred percent agree,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're they're kind of making the decisions about what

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<v Speaker 1>goes out into the world. Da da da. But what

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<v Speaker 1>they're not making decisions about is what we individually look at.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes they have some influence, of course, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to I don't. I couldn't really explain to you

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<v Speaker 1>what snapchat is. I've never used it. There's a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of things I haven't used. There's a bunch of things

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<v Speaker 1>I have. But you know, so what they are doing

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<v Speaker 1>is pushing more and more options and I guess available

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<v Speaker 1>whatever AI or things that we can interact with or

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<v Speaker 1>use for good and bad. But like we I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as a society, yes all of this is true, but

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<v Speaker 1>we keep acting like we have no personal sovereignty or power.

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<v Speaker 1>We are just puppets at the at the hands at

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<v Speaker 1>the mercy of these puppeteers with AI and this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can't control our own feelings or reactions or

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<v Speaker 1>choices and our future as fucked, not because of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's complete bullshit. I think we every day

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<v Speaker 1>get to choose what we look at, what we interact with,

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<v Speaker 1>what we do, what we eat, whether or not we move,

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<v Speaker 1>what job we do. You know, It's like, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much more to my future and my wellness and my

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<v Speaker 1>purpose and my health and my mental and emotional existence

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<v Speaker 1>to what these companies make available to me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think everyone needs to And I'm not trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>too fucking philosophical, but it's like this large percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>the world to walking around going, oh, we're fucked, No

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<v Speaker 1>we're not. We're only fucked if you say we're fucked

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<v Speaker 1>and you let people control you, and you let nobody

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<v Speaker 1>can control your decisions. And can these things be addictive? Sure?

0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.720
<v Speaker 1>So are cigarette how many people don't smoke most, how

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<v Speaker 1>many people don't use severe or serious drugs most, how

0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.800
<v Speaker 1>many people are not alcoholics most? So we have a

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<v Speaker 1>level of individual responsibility to go, yes, all this shit

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<v Speaker 1>is happening, and as you say, mate, some of it's

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<v Speaker 1>fucking terrible, and maybe some of the decisions that have

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<v Speaker 1>been made shouldn't have happened and all that, but at

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<v Speaker 1>some stage we've still got to go. Yeah, but what

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<v Speaker 1>about you bro about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had this chat briefly in the last episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't rehash it because we're talking about people being overweight,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously, you know, whatever you put in your mouth

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<v Speaker 2>is your decision ultimately. But what I guess, and I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you and the reason that I said, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I'd like to know what either of you

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<v Speaker 2>think should we have had this band roll out to

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<v Speaker 2>under sixteen, Tiff, did you think the band is a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing or a bad thing or yet to know.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not a good thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Crago?

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<v Speaker 1>My honest opinion is I'm not sure because I just

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<v Speaker 1>haven't looked at it. I don't know, like I would

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<v Speaker 1>feel disingenuous making a comment on like I would need

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<v Speaker 1>to see some kind of evidence either way, not just

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation. But I know I asked you to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Okay, so I'm going to go my

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<v Speaker 1>gut says, probably doesn't. No, I just rationalized that roundback

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<v Speaker 1>to where I've asked you to do what I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do, So get off your fucking fence.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 1>I nearly said the S word. Ah, I know, Craig

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<v Speaker 1>what did you think I was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big in my language, Craig, and say.

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<v Speaker 1>That, look's I think probably it wouldn't. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to make a massive difference, So I

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<v Speaker 1>would be happy if it didn't happen. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff is hard, right because it's it's provocative, and

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<v Speaker 1>it arouses emotion in people, and once people are emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>they are less logical, they are less practical. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>most people about most topics of significance already have an opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying knowledge or data. I'm saying they have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion, and very few people want to change their opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that in itself is a problem, not

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<v Speaker 1>that just to be able to be willing to go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I think I got that wrong. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got that wrong. And I've gotten so many

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<v Speaker 1>fucking things wrong, even things that you and I have

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>argued about in this podcast. I'm sure I maybe now

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<v Speaker 1>share your idea, and but you just kind of OK.

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<v Speaker 1>I think being open minded but also curious is the

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<v Speaker 1>nice combination.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know the reality of it is, when you

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<v Speaker 2>impose a blanket ban, I realize what the essence of

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<v Speaker 2>the idea behind it is and that is to protect

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<v Speaker 2>children from you know, the onslaught of AI or the

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<v Speaker 2>onslaught of social media, and you know the terrible perils

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 2>there are online. And I want to protect kids as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But isn't it more empowering to educate and guide and

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<v Speaker 2>nurture and for parents to be proactive and teachers to

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<v Speaker 2>be proactive. And you know, we educate people. So you

0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.639
<v Speaker 2>know a lot of kids, you know, get told don't

0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:01.679
<v Speaker 2>touch that because you'll get burnt. Now, some kids are

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<v Speaker 2>going to touch it and get burnt and learn that

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 2>exercise and learn that lesson themselves, but a lot of

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>kids won't. If you sit down rationally and say this

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<v Speaker 2>is what's happening, and this is why you shouldn't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, you can have connected communities online and

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<v Speaker 2>kids won't be isolated if they want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to engage with friends and people of their own age,

0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.760
<v Speaker 2>but now can't. So I think that once we have

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<v Speaker 2>a blanket ban, we're now enforcing something and it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like a nanny state. And that's what I think prompted

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<v Speaker 2>my no answer more than anything else, that I think

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<v Speaker 2>that we should educate and nurture young people and help

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.440
<v Speaker 2>them and guide them and say, yes, this phone is fantastic.

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.680
<v Speaker 2>There's so many things you can do with it. However,

0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 2>there are problems. There are people online that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to interact with, you know, there are connected communities

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 2>that you probably shouldn't be connected with, or there are

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:56.159
<v Speaker 2>algorithms that are going to make your feed feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing a slot machine and you want to keep

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 2>scrolling and scrolling and scrolling, scrolling and scrolling. I bought

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<v Speaker 2>myself a new gadget recently, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cool. Craigo, can you describe what I'm holding

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<v Speaker 2>in my hand?

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<v Speaker 1>Your penis or the other thing? All right, the other thing? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so well I can't see your right hand, so I'm

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:24.239
<v Speaker 1>just assuming. So in his left hand, he's holding what

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>looks like to be a hexagonal piece of steel. I

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>would say it's tiff loves that. It's about forty mili

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>dimensionally across and looks like it's about I don't know,

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:40.440
<v Speaker 1>fifty mil high, maybe thirty mil and it's got some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of electronic timer or clock in the middle, and

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end it looks like a hole, so

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like something from the Space Program. It doesn't good,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, we didn't go the other hand, But there

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<v Speaker 1>you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That looks like something from the Space program too.

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<v Speaker 1>See see you don't need to open the door. I

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>just need to tap on the door. People, get it right?

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 2>You remember what Bezos's ship looked like? It was a

0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 2>giant penis. Remember when he took off in his big

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 2>spaceship and they went out. You don't remember it anyway?

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Look so anyway I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. That's because that was out of that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that movie called? No, it's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a movie, No, no, no, I know. It

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>was a real ship that looked like a cock. I

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:31.200
<v Speaker 1>remember that Cox just got a certain resonance, doesn't it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it doesn't it? Well like, there's quite a few

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>people who have them, So let's not get too overwhelmed.

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a fair percentage of the population.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you say, at fifty percent of the population,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fraction less yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And Tiff, don't pretend like I mean. I mean,

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the listeners know, you.

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 3>Know, the listeners are dying to know what Tim Patrick's

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 3>left hand, that's what the listeners know, thank.

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.439
<v Speaker 2>You, thank you to bring you back on track to

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 2>that thank you.

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>It looks like something that should have gone extinct in

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the Amazon two billion years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I now talk about it?

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it, I've seen it. Just looks super fucking tired.

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Go on, Patrick, I'm just thinking about that new movie

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>about the Amazon called Anaconda.

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Sorry yet, that's what the anaconda would eat as a

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>fucking snack as a warm up? Okay? Can can you

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>just say what that is? And can we get onto

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>another topic? I think people are jumping off the ship.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>They are sorry, like the sst yp you reckon, Max

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and Mark is still listening because we've name dropped them. Now,

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 2>there's no reason for them to keep listening.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I'd be long gone. In fact, if anyone's listening,

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>If anyone's still listening, I love you, But what is

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>wrong with you? And why are you still here? Come on?

0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>What is that thing?

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>So? What it is? It's a timer with pre set

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 2>timer amounts so five, ten, thirty, twenty five, fifteen, And

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 2>what what I what I got it for? Was I

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 2>set this for a specific time period? They want to

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>focus on a task and then I switch off all

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.239
<v Speaker 2>other distractions and I use it as a way to

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 2>just focus on. I get distracted really easily. You know,

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 2>clients call for tech support, phone calls come in. So

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>what I've done is I've got.

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>To know, you know, tip how he goes I get

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>distracted easily. Then he has to give us ten examples

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of said distractions. Hey, you could have just stopped that

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I get distracted. We get it, we know what distractions are.

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>We don't need your list. If I can carry on,

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>We've got to get through some other shit. Carry on.

0:26:45.480 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 2>You wasted more time berating me than I did giving examples.

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 1>For one hundred in the hope that you won't do

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that in the future.

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Let me keep going for trying out loud Jesus anyway.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Blaspheme, Mary listens, Sorry, Mary.

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>We're talking blessed Virgin or your mother or both one

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and the same. Now, So this is a timer, that

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 2>really is You're very quickly able to set a time

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>for however long you want, and it gives you a countdown.

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But for me, it's a way to disconnect from technology

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 2>without distractions. And I just thought it was a nice

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>little mechanism to be able to demonstrate how I'm now

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>effectively trying to not be distracted by technology by using technology.

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>If can you edit out the last seven minutes? That

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>was fucking the opposite of entertaining, wasn't it? Fuck? And hell,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to fucking jump over the balcony right now.

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Gadget that Patrick can come in here with.

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can your phone not do the same? Can you

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>not put it on flight mode? And your same your

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>phone does the same thing? Anyway, I don't know. I'm

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>not the tech guy, but it seems fucking unnecessary. Hey,

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>great work, trick. Look at him. He looks like the

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>little kid in the school yard up the corner. Just

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>fucking no, mates, Ah, let's bring you back into the fold.

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Just do better. Five seven hundred years without recharging the

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>diamond nuclear battery built to outlast civilization.

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 2>That you are said, Fuck that, I've got a timer.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>If you can bring one of these into the studio,

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd be happy.

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Okay, now this is really this is actually kind of

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 2>really interesting. Okay, So it's a carbon fourteen diamond battery.

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Right now, we're not talking about powering your phone for

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>five and a half thousand years or powering a car,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>but there's a University of Bristol have been doing research

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>into the decaying electrons that he used from carbon rods

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>out of nuclear reactors and the slow release of these

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>carbon rods. So the radiation effectively from the carbon rods

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>in cased in diamond means that you don't get irradiated,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 2>but if you're in a probe into space, you could

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>potentially keep powering it for nearly six thousand years.

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Wow wow yeah. Yeah. If you know that voice that

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you hate, yes, I'm not going to use it. Think

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of carbon rod said by that voice, what are you

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about?

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Don't ask about it. I don't want it to come out, your.

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Carbon carbon rod to come out?

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah yeah. Is that ever going to be a

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>thing though, Like, is that ever going to be operational

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>or is this just a hypothetical?

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 2>No, no, Well they've been able to demonstrate that they

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>can use it. So it's the it's the it's the

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>UK Atomic Energy Authority, and they've teamed up your Bristol

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>so that if look flict it's got start off as researches.

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But these because at the moment these carbon fourteen rods,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>they know they have a radioactive isotope and at the

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>moment they use them for carbon dating, so if you know,

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 2>when they measure how old the dinosaur bone is or

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 2>something like that, So it's the same technology. So this

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>is something that potentially, yeah, can be used and they

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>need to do something with the carbon rods. So it

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>sounds like it's a great way to use something that's

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be around for a long time and make

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>it practical. So is it going to happen? Looks like

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>it will. Yeah, I don't see why not.

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll stand by everybody. I like the next one because

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>it's an intersection of science stuff and stuff that Tiff

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and I enjoy, which is kind of motorbikes electric or

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>they call them e bikes, but they're essentially motorbikes. And

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>before you tell us about the story, have you noticed,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 1>either of you, all of the stories on the New

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>use about these swarms of e bikes, like literally one

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred kids at a time out on eboat bikes taking

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>over roads and freeways and oh yeah, and some of

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>them do one hundred and ten hundred and twenty kilometers. Now,

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>they're essentially a motorbike, but they're riding them without helmets,

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and so that shit is I think that's that's going

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to have to be addressed really quickly, because just.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>Before I went back to Tazzy young boy I think

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 3>he might have been fifteen, had an accident and passed

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 3>away on an e bike.

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's so sad. And what people don't understand is

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>like an e bike will out accelerate a lot of

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>motorbikes because they're electric, so it's instant, instant talk, and

0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that's one of that's why EV cars are so Yeah,

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>zero to zero to one hundred and three seconds is

0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>heading towards common now with evs in the old days,

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>like like a Ford Falcon with a three point fifty

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>one will do it in seven seconds or eight seconds,

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and that was mind blowing. Yeah, they just so far. Sorry, mate,

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>tell us the story if you would.

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So, government authorities, people who are in the medical industry

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>and emergency departments are raising all these red flags and

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>saying they're seeing so many more injuries with kids who

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>are using these e bikes. And look, this is the

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 2>tough one, isn't it. The reality of it is that, Yes,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest issue is the importation of bikes

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that exceed the speed limit. So there are two types

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>of e devices we're talking about. So you've got scooters

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 2>which are totally electric and they are limited. I think

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>the speed limit in Victoria is twenty two kilometers in

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 2>our maximum for an e But with an e bike

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>it's slightly different because these e bikes they've got what

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>we call battery assist or motor assisted, so you can

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>pedal normally and then you can click into battery mode.

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's why they're allowed on the roads because they're

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>effectively a bike, but they've also got a battery and

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 2>a motor in them. But the ones you're talking about,

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 2>they actually look like motorbikes and they are very, very

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 2>very fast. So there's a very because the thing is

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>on a pushbike you can go more than twenty two

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>kilometers an hour, so you know, regardless of chronics. So

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>the reality of it is when you then combine them

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 2>with an e bike, yes, it is very fast. The

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>challenge of course is again you know, I guess what

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 2>are the legalities of the importation of these e bucks.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 2>We don't make them in Australia, we're just importing them.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>You can go to Big w and buy one there

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 2>all over the place, and it comes down to well,

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, if someone's doing the wrong thing on the roads,

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>whether you're doing the wrong thing as a cyclist, whether

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>you're doing the wrong thing as an e bike rider

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 2>or a motorist, then you can get pulled out by

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>the police in charge. You can be fine. Mind, the

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>issue of safety of young people being doing stupid things

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:09.479
<v Speaker 2>on a very very very powerful, quickly accelerating e bike

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>is the big concern. But I wanted to touch on

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 2>another article that is adjoining to this, because e bikes

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 2>can be really really valuable for people who are less

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 2>mobile and can assist them greatly. And the flip side

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 2>to all of this is a study, a scientific study

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>has found something really surprising that from a fitness perspective,

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 2>people who are older, say fifty to eighty three. They

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>did a research study between the age of fifty to

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>eighty three and they found that people who are in

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.280
<v Speaker 2>their older stages of life using e bikes are actually

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>healthier and mentally more focused because they're riding and they're

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 2>being more active, and so there are measurable cognitive and

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 2>mental health benefits from real cycling even though they're using

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>a bike. So if they're using a traditional bike, now

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>As people get older, then it's harder for them to

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>use a pedal bike. But if they've got an e

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>bike where they can get electric assists, then they're more

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 2>likely to be independent and riding. And what the found is,

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 2>and this is the lead research for a lady by

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the name of Louise and Leyland said that in real

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>world urban environments it can make a really big difference

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>because being outdoors, it adds sensory input, navigation, social interaction,

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 2>and it can't be replicated by just doing some sort

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>of exercise indoors. So howering older people and helping them

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>stay on the road longer or helping them stay mobile

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>longer using e by technology is going to be really beneficial.

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>So if we suddenly ban e bikes because Alaric and

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 2>kids are getting out there and they're riding too fast,

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>what they're effectively doing is making it harder for older

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>people who are going to get real that have benefits

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and physical benefits from riding e bikes. So I just

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>wanted to throw two of them into the mix.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that, dude. I one hundred percent agree

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>with that, lady, And you like that. The thing about it,

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it's all about like with everything. It's almost like dose dependent.

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>People go, oh, that's bad. It depends on how much

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>of it, or you know, like an e bike with

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, five hundred watts of power, which is

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.320
<v Speaker 1>what they come two hundred and fifty watts, which doesn't

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>mean much to everyone, but that's like what they come

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>out with. It's not a lot of power, right, and

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>they actually won't go faster than twenty k's. But then

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>when they've got bikes which you've got five thousand lots

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>of power, which they also have five kilowatts, right, they've

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>got these very very light things that are actually very

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>high powered. And as you correctly point out, we're talking

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>about different things that just happen to have the same name.

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And you think about an older person like TiVo, all

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, she's got she can ride the bike,

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 1>she can pedal it, she can have some assist if

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>she needs, and she's used her brain, as you suggested,

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to navigate potential threats and dangers, and she's solving problems

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>in real time and she can Yeah, I agree, And

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I wish that my only caveat would be with the

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>older older people, which sounds hilarious, but maybe tricycles, not bicycles,

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>just for I definitely wouldn't want Ronald Mary out on

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>one of them. I think everyone around Maybe it depends

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 1>on the individual, of course, but maybe around seventy seventy

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>five we should start thinking about something with a bit

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>more stability than two wheels. But other than that, I

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's a great I hadn't really thought of it, so, yeah,

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that's a good highlight. Yeah.

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there a motorbike that came out that we were

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>talking about on the show a few years ago that

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 2>had some sort of internal gyroscope that made it more stable?

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent? I don't know that ever went to production,

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.439
<v Speaker 1>but I remember that there's but there is. I think

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>there's one motorbike that you push a button at the

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>lights and little wheels come out at the back, like

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>training wheels, So as you roll up to the light,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>seas little wheels come out, so you literally don't even

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>have to put your feet down.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 2>That's for you, mate.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just think, I mean, honestly, as I

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>get older, I think a lot about these, you know,

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm dealing with mum and dad right now, and

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, we like. There are so many things,

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and we've spoken about this maybe once. But if I

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>had all the dough in the world and I could

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just I could do whatever I want. One of the

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 1>things I would do is I would get an acre

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of space and I would build a playground for people

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>over sixty five and essentially a playground, and make it

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>as safe as humanly possible. People would get coached the

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>first time or two on how to use everything, and

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I would make it free. If the government did that,

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I would respect the government, just because you know, we

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>because we stop playing and play for grown ups, and

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean real play, physical play in a balanced strength, coordination, fitness,

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>muscular endurance, aerobic endurance, spatial awareness, interaction with others, socializing.

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>If you could build something like that that people used regularly,

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>such a fucking three dimensional physical, mental, emotional, healthy thing

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:35.240
<v Speaker 1>for people to do.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 2>That is the best thing ever. One of my Do

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 2>you remember my friend Tina.

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Who I do, Oh yeah, she's nice, she's nice.

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.400
<v Speaker 2>In our early thirties, she decided for her birthday that

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 2>would go and do a McDonald's party, and we're told

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 2>off by the management for using the playground equipment at macas.

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Who's that old cunt sliding down that tube and pushing

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that all year old ahead of him?

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>But I think it was in Pran and so it

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 2>was one of those big indoor things with tubes and

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>we're crawling all right, asked to leave by the manager. Yeah, shocked.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 2>We also went to a video shop once on someone

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>else's birthday wearing a pajamas and moccasins. Yeah, but see

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>the adult play I think that you're right though. I

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 2>think that's a great idea, you.

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Know, mate, I'm not kidding. I would go. I would

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>legit go because how fun is climbing fucking swinging, like balancing? Oh?

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>You tif you would fucking love it. You'd love it, mate,

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I'd love it. So many people I know, like, once

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you get over your bullshit, your ego, your fucking self importance,

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>fuck all that. That's all unhealthy, emotional fucking shit. Just

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>go down. Put your ego at the front door, and

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>your self esteem fuck it. Put those in the lockers

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 1>next to your stinky socks and just fucking get out there.

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Just But I bet half of our audience or more

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 1>ago and fuck I would actually do that. That would

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 1>be good.

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Couldn't we just put a sign outside just average playgrounds

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and say between this time and this time adults only.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't know, but because I think the children's

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>playgrounds wouldn't be ideal for the for the oldies, so

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I would I would design that environment so government, I

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>will do that for free free. I will never charge

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you one cent. If you give me the financial resources

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and the space, I'll develop this for you for free.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>And I will get a team of volunteers who will

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>also work for free that I will train and will

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>revolutionize aged care. So there you go. I don't know

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that this will ever get to them, but you know,

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.720
<v Speaker 1>if you choose to do that, I'm in. I'm on board.

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I'd almost almost make that my purpose for at least

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>year or two. How good would it be? Like that

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>excites me? Yeah, doing that for free excites me. Then

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>getting a high paid gig like truly give me that

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>project because that's such a fucking great thing for people.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind being your crash test dummy on that too.

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'd be there it all out.

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Like if I if I pulled that off and I said, mate,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 1>would you volunteer ten hours a week? Tip, would you

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>volunteer whatever? Five?

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 3>Ten?

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm almost positive you'd both go yes, and Patrick you'd

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>probably go. Can I do more?

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Because I don't want to go home now, you know,

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>and if maybe you as well, I have to go home? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Can I just sleep on the big fucking that ropeie

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>thing over there that you know? What's that? Like that

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:53.160
<v Speaker 1>webbing that they have like that, like the giant mesh? Yeah?

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>How good would it be? All right, let's let's not

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>get way laid with my dreams and visions for the elderly.

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, can we bring dogs with as crago? Because I

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 2>think that's important. Lunar and Fritzi should be.

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.879
<v Speaker 1>There as long as I think dogs, and I think

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.479
<v Speaker 1>you know what also like for a little period of time,

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>like a care or a person. But I would have

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it staffed. It would have to be set hours, and

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>you'd have to have at least one or two. Well,

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>if I know, there's a bunch of shits sort out,

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but you sort it out. It's like with every good thing,

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 1>there are always hiccups and problems and things to resolve

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and work around. But what I love is I love

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the idea truly of doing something for nothing. Then people

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>can't question you. You know, there's no agenda. I'm not

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 1>going to open a fucking this. There's not going to

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>be anything sold via this. I want people to volunteer.

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I might step away in two years and someone else

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>takes over. But I think when you go, and I know,

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it's very rare when I truly have no agenda, no

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 1>commercial interest, and if there was some way that money

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>was made from it, I don't want it, do you

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? So yeah, I just think that

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.399
<v Speaker 1>that is anyway, let's not get too weird and deep.

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Patrick, Well, i'd just say just on the same theme.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>A few years ago, my friends who lived down the

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>road from you were Christmas. I think they got me

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a voucher to a rock climbing place. Now I've done

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of rock climbing over the years. It was

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 2>my kind of chosen sport. And they got me a

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 2>voucher and they came with me to this rock climbing

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 2>gym and I thought this is for kids. You know.

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 2>They had harnesses where you could step up poles and

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 2>climb up, and I thought, it's not real rock climbing. Well,

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously I was really excited to just be

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 2>with my friends anyway, but it was very much like

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 2>a kid's playground type gym. Oh my god, I had

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the best time ever. It was so cool because the

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>harness is rather than needing a blayer, so a blayer

0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 2>is when you go climbing, say indoor and potentially outdoors

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 2>as well, you can do as well. It's called top

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 2>roping where you put on a harness, You've got a

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>rope attached to you, someone that's holding the other end

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 2>of the rope, and you start to free climb and

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>then they pull the rope up in that way if

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 2>you fall, it takes the fall, where in this case

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 2>they had this automatic mechanism that allows you to be

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 2>able to clip in. You start climbing and it takes

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you up automatically, so it doesn't matter if you fall.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 2>It was a bit nerve wracking for me, who had

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 2>done rock climbing, to think that I didn't have a bulayer.

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 2>It was all automatic. That was a bit scary. That

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 2>was the most thing for me. But one of the

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 2>things that I liked the most is they had a

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 2>series of poles and you step up onto one pole,

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>so just the width of a normal pole in the

0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>ground like a ballard, and they progressively got higher and

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 2>higher and higher, and they went round in a circle

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>and you had to try to jump from one to

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the next, to the next to the next, and it

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 2>was so much fun and it just made me think

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>about it when you were talking about a playground for adults,

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, those sorts of things, and you know it

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 2>was geared at kids, but adults were obviously able to

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>do that. You know, there was another wall where you

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 2>could compete with somebody else to climb as high as

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 2>you could, and then when you got to the top,

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you hit the button and it locked. It locked in

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 2>your time, so you actually have a time speed climb

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think I think you want to kill

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>old people. I want to. I want to. You know,

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>old people cannot do any of that. I'm talking about

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>old people. I'm not talking about strong, healthy, fifty five

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>year olds or whatever the fuck you are.

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.360
<v Speaker 3>But straining for the next Ninja warrior.

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, have you actually met an old person?

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>That's not what I'm talking about. Come up to La

0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Tri Valley to the Ron and Mary Show and you'll

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 1>go Ah, there it is. I get it. I want

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to know about I kind of want to know. But

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I asked this question with trepidation. Optional underwear? Fuck the

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>pros and cons of going commando?

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Study and I thought it might be something interesting.

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Notice how his voice went real high that time, Tip,

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it went up four octaves. You know he's a bit

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>nervous or gonna bullshit when his voice goes up so

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>many octaves.

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Can I just ask the question, there's anybody can

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 2>commando today?

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I no, I've never gone commander in my life. I

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think we should ask tiff that.

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 3>I think that's today.

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Great. Oh that's really good to know.

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you say great underpants?

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Well? You open the door? What makes them great? When

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I say you opened the door? No, I mean, I mean,

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I realize that can be metaphoric in many ways. I

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 1>just mean I'm not talking about oh fuck help, I'm

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>just talking about the conversational door.

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Continue on.

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. There's some stats out of the United States that

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:10.320
<v Speaker 2>say that a poll of American people, about seven percent

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:14.479
<v Speaker 2>of Americans so they always go commando, and about say

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:19.479
<v Speaker 2>that they often go without underwear. Now, I don't think

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I ever have gone Commando. The whole idea of put

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 2>on a pair of genes and not being able to

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>get everything or feels cares.

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but I know what are the alleged benefits.

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, for men, it's more about being able to have

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:41.520
<v Speaker 2>the you know, you not being constricted because when you

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 2>bring your testicles too close to your body, they heat up,

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and they because they should. The reason that they're external

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 2>is because for sperm production, they know it's supposed to

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 2>be better for you. So you're potentially lowering your sperm

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 2>count if you wear tight underwear.

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>What if I bring my testicles close to you? Is

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that the same? Also on this topic, we've had a

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>guy on the show called Lucas aon Who's uh Lucas,

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>He's no, he's great, he's great. He's in the integrative

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of space and the bio hacker space, and he's

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>right up there. He's like one of the I don't know,

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>top ten in the world's highly regarded. But he's always

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>banging on about icing your balls always yeah I know what, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, icing your balls. Just look it up icing

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>testical icing.

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Dow algorithm algorithm.

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not saying to you, right, now I'm saying

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:42.439
<v Speaker 1>that if some of the boys out there want to

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 1>find out, we'll just say, what are the benefits of

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>icing your testicles? It's goods clinical, there's not going to

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully no pictures come up. Oh he's a photo of

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the step one. Yeah, so.

0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Patrick's just gone to get the ice cube tray out

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:00.240
<v Speaker 3>of his freezer.

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what interests me on this this Patrick?

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 1>The fact that only seven petrol powered cars sold in

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Norway last month, seven in the whole country changing.

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, evidently it helps increase testos thrown levels and sperm quality,

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>boost energy and sex drive, and improves sleep quality. Oh

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 2>that could be good for sleep quality. I better check

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 2>my face.

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Are we're talking about petrol cars or.

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm still icing nuts?

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Right? So just say that again.

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, benefits, well, sperm quality, sleep, all those sorts of things. Yeah,

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:40.720
<v Speaker 4>I just said it and I closed the window.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what it was, but it was faced

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<v Speaker 2>the right amount of time. I don't want to end

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<v Speaker 2>up frozen jets crackers.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you can do that for your one, I'm

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>just asking chatters, do you know what you need to get?

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Get an egg cup with really cold water in it? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Maybe I don't know. Maybe you figure out

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>your own protocol. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>How about I will if you do for a week

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<v Speaker 2>and then the next episode will report back.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck, no, no chance. You do it. You do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You do it for the good of the show and

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<v Speaker 1>the good of science, and we don't need any videos,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Talk to us about Norway only selling seven

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<v Speaker 1>cars that are petrol powered in a whole month of

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 1>car sales.

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<v Speaker 2>That interesting? Yeah, so there was for the month of January,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty nine hybrids were sold and ninety eight diesel

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:42.080
<v Speaker 2>cars were sold. Okay, so we're talking diesel, but battery

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:46.760
<v Speaker 2>electric took more than two thousand sold and only seven

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 2>actual petrol cars. So they're switch over from you know,

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 2>petrol power to EV has been amazing, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>was just the I guess the biggest uptake of any

0:52:02.239 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 2>country in the world has been in Norway. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to find out what your guess without

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<v Speaker 1>looking the population of Norway.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say, maybe I don't know, eight thousand people,

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:19.359
<v Speaker 2>eight million people, sorry, eight million, Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that good? What's your guess? Norway.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not good at that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, just because I was thinking two thousand cars

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:29.879
<v Speaker 1>is not a lot of cars to sell in a month.

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<v Speaker 1>But the answer is about five and a half million,

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<v Speaker 1>five point six, So you're not Yeah, because I could

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<v Speaker 1>have guessed anything between three and forty. I wouldn't know,

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:47.560
<v Speaker 1>So you're way accurate, more accurate than I would have been. Perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do one more and then let's hit

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the frog and toad. You choose, bro, you choose something

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that fascinates you or I can.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I will. I will a new start up. And

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 2>this look, I don't know whether you this. I don't

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 2>want to sound morbid, but thinking about death, I came

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to a decision that I wanted to be cremated. And

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.720
<v Speaker 2>then I thought, well, then what happens to my ashes?

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 2>And now I know? I am so excited about this

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 2>a start I saw this a startup as talking about

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 2>being able to send a thousand people's ashes into space affordably.

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 2>And we're talking as soon as twenty twenty seven. So

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:35.040
<v Speaker 2>there's a guy who's the founder, Ryan Mitchell. He founded

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:39.400
<v Speaker 2>a company called Space Beyond, and this stems back to

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.720
<v Speaker 2>when he was just a young guy looking at the sky,

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and he'd been to a recently, had been to the

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:49.000
<v Speaker 2>death of a relative and they were cremated, and he

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:52.280
<v Speaker 2>went to an ash spreading ceremony, and then he thought,

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.000
<v Speaker 2>now what it's over, you know, So in this case,

0:53:56.440 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I just thought that would be so cool to be

0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 2>able to get my ashes into space. Look. I think

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 2>it's because remember we've spoken this on our show a

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 2>few times about my bucket list. So I've got two

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>bucket lists. I've got the bucket list of things that

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 2>are achievable and the bucket list of things that are

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>never going to happen. And so the achievable one is, yeah,

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to go to Japan and that sort of stuff.

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:21.360
<v Speaker 2>But the bucket list of unachievables is going into space.

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 2>But I like the idea of my ashes being fired

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 2>off into space. I think that would be amazing. And

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 2>also it would be cool because when you say, well,

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 2>people are going to go visit you, Crago, would you

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 2>go visit.

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Look if you're in space, probably not, but I would

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.399
<v Speaker 1>look at you through my telescope that I would buy,

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of course at eight thousand X. And I wonder if

0:54:48.040 --> 0:54:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that star.

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Is Patrick, Well, we're all made of stardust anyway. So

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.839
<v Speaker 2>I like the idea of returning, But isn't that the

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:56.440
<v Speaker 2>coolest things just me?

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, that's you. That's you. It's not the all

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 1>this thing. But I respect that it is for you

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.719
<v Speaker 1>because my critical mind goes, okay.

0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:07.839
<v Speaker 3>So.

0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Prove to me that I am in there, Like you

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 1>put a thousand people's ashes in there?

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you? Or do you just go to empty a

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.359
<v Speaker 1>few ashtrays and go that's Brian, I don't know.

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cynical, And I'm thinking, are they like a thousand

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>separate little compartments?

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, that's my my like if that was one

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:36.839
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, let okay, let's not be cynical. If that's

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 1>true and you or party you will being, then I

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's for you. It's fucking amazing like me just

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 1>understanding how you work and what you love, and if

0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that was true, then I definitely think it's for you.

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Fucking great.

0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Yea.

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I decided recently as well, Craigo. I've got the ashes

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.960
<v Speaker 2>of my first dog and and hopefully Fritz is going

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to be with me for another a long, long, long time.

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 2>But part of my will will be to have my

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 2>dog's ashes added to my ashes as well.

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, fuck, how can I make fun of you? Now?

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Can you stop?

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 3>That?

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that nice?

0:56:15.320 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Well it's beautiful?

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:20.800
<v Speaker 2>But yeah I want so Fitzi and Ferdinand, my two dogs,

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:22.880
<v Speaker 2>will be with me forever. Isn't it great? And then

0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 2>we could be space together.

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, can I just say you're probably going to live

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a thirty another thirty years, so there's a fair chance

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>there'll be a third and maybe a fourth dog. Yeah,

0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 1>not that Fritz is not going to live forty years,

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:39.920
<v Speaker 1>be the first Schnauzer in the world to live to forty.

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:43.280
<v Speaker 1>But on the off chance that he dies, let's say thirty,

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 1>there might be another dog. Tell people how to find

0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you yep.

0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 2>If you go to websites now, dot com, dot au

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and if you want to chat to us, we want

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it, thinks Max and Mark. Feel free

0:56:57.160 --> 0:56:58.879
<v Speaker 2>to give us a topic to chat about. It could

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:00.840
<v Speaker 2>be anything. It could be with you you go commando

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 2>or not? See that would be interesting to know how

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 2>many of our listeners work commando while listening or And

0:57:07.680 --> 0:57:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the other thing too is if you want to do

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 2>some health exercises with me, tie Chi at home dot

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 2>com todau and we could do terfict. Yeah.

0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:19.160
<v Speaker 1>If people want to get punched in the face by

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you or in a group where they could potentially get

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 1>punched in the face by you, do you have any

0:57:24.160 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 1>spots like it? Can people come to your group or

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 1>are they kind of closed now because you're a big

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>deal and famous?

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 3>They can absolutely come to my group by training people

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 3>at nine am on a Sunday, I only do one

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 3>group session a week. Is it a closed little studio

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 3>in Sinkira and it's epic? Ah?

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>So email us at at my website if you have

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a website. I know you have an email of course,

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>or tell people say again tifcook dot com. Yeah. So

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>if you want to go get punched in the face, Patrick, well,

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying anything about the ring. You've done. Well,

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I can see you restraining yourself over there. Well done.

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I was actually thinking I was going to ask Tiff

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 2>if maybe I could come along one Sunday morning. I

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize you did it at nine am. Can I come?

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:13.959
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Please?

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:19.800
<v Speaker 1>This is good. I'm definitely coming to that. I am

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:24.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking filming the shit out of that with me. Will

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you be gentle with me? No? Sucking man up. Go

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>over there, put on your gloves, get the fuck punched

0:58:31.760 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>out of you by an almost girl.

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:37.480
<v Speaker 3>And thing session. That session, it's it's all strength.

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Hey, tif, Tiff, Tiff, it is a boxing session.

0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 3>When Patrick comes, I'll have the gloves on hand.

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 1>All right, we got to We've got to go. Patrick.

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't start a new conversations. Okay, all right, you kids

0:58:54.280 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 1>will say goodbye affair, but everyone thank you. Say goodbye team. Bye, team,