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Speaker 1: Over and out. Patrick, Do you think that there's any

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Speaker 2: Look so anyway I do.

436
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: I do. That's because that was out of that movie.

437
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: What was that movie called? No, it's a real thing.

438
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't a movie, No, no, no, I know. It

439
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: was a real ship that looked like a cock. I

440
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: remember that Cox just got a certain resonance, doesn't it

441
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't it? Well like, there's quite a few

442
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: people who have them, So let's not get too overwhelmed.

443
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a fair percentage of the population.

444
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: What did you say, at fifty percent of the population,

445
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: it's a fraction less yeah.

446
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Tiff, don't pretend like I mean. I mean,

447
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: the listeners know, you.

448
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: Know, the listeners are dying to know what Tim Patrick's

449
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: left hand, that's what the listeners know, thank.

450
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 2: You, thank you to bring you back on track to

451
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: that thank you.

452
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: It looks like something that should have gone extinct in

453
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: the Amazon two billion years ago.

454
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: Can I now talk about it?

455
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: I've seen it, I've seen it. Just looks super fucking tired.

456
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: Go on, Patrick, I'm just thinking about that new movie

457
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: about the Amazon called Anaconda.

458
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: Sorry yet, that's what the anaconda would eat as a

459
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: fucking snack as a warm up? Okay? Can can you

460
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: just say what that is? And can we get onto

461
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: another topic? I think people are jumping off the ship.

462
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: They are sorry, like the sst yp you reckon, Max

463
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: and Mark is still listening because we've name dropped them. Now,

464
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: there's no reason for them to keep listening.

465
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I'd be long gone. In fact, if anyone's listening,

466
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: If anyone's still listening, I love you, But what is

467
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: wrong with you? And why are you still here? Come on?

468
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: What is that thing?

469
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: So? What it is? It's a timer with pre set

470
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: timer amounts so five, ten, thirty, twenty five, fifteen, And

471
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: what what I what I got it for? Was I

472
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: set this for a specific time period? They want to

473
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: focus on a task and then I switch off all

474
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 2: other distractions and I use it as a way to

475
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: just focus on. I get distracted really easily. You know,

476
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: clients call for tech support, phone calls come in. So

477
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: what I've done is I've got.

478
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: To know, you know, tip how he goes I get

479
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: distracted easily. Then he has to give us ten examples

480
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: of said distractions. Hey, you could have just stopped that

481
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: I get distracted. We get it, we know what distractions are.

482
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: We don't need your list. If I can carry on,

483
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: We've got to get through some other shit. Carry on.

484
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 2: You wasted more time berating me than I did giving examples.

485
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: For one hundred in the hope that you won't do

486
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: that in the future.

487
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: Let me keep going for trying out loud Jesus anyway.

488
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: Blaspheme, Mary listens, Sorry, Mary.

489
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: We're talking blessed Virgin or your mother or both one

490
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: and the same. Now, So this is a timer, that

491
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: really is You're very quickly able to set a time

492
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: for however long you want, and it gives you a countdown.

493
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: But for me, it's a way to disconnect from technology

494
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 2: without distractions. And I just thought it was a nice

495
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: little mechanism to be able to demonstrate how I'm now

496
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: effectively trying to not be distracted by technology by using technology.

497
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: If can you edit out the last seven minutes? That

498
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: was fucking the opposite of entertaining, wasn't it? Fuck? And hell,

499
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: I want to fucking jump over the balcony right now.

500
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: Gadget that Patrick can come in here with.

501
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, can your phone not do the same? Can you

502
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: not put it on flight mode? And your same your

503
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: phone does the same thing? Anyway, I don't know. I'm

504
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: not the tech guy, but it seems fucking unnecessary. Hey,

505
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: great work, trick. Look at him. He looks like the

506
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: little kid in the school yard up the corner. Just

507
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: fucking no, mates, Ah, let's bring you back into the fold.

508
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Just do better. Five seven hundred years without recharging the

509
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: diamond nuclear battery built to outlast civilization.

510
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: That you are said, Fuck that, I've got a timer.

511
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: If you can bring one of these into the studio,

512
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: I'd be happy.

513
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: Okay, now this is really this is actually kind of

514
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: really interesting. Okay, So it's a carbon fourteen diamond battery.

515
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: Right now, we're not talking about powering your phone for

516
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: five and a half thousand years or powering a car,

517
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: but there's a University of Bristol have been doing research

518
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: into the decaying electrons that he used from carbon rods

519
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: out of nuclear reactors and the slow release of these

520
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: carbon rods. So the radiation effectively from the carbon rods

521
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: in cased in diamond means that you don't get irradiated,

522
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: but if you're in a probe into space, you could

523
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: potentially keep powering it for nearly six thousand years.

524
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Wow wow yeah. Yeah. If you know that voice that

525
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: you hate, yes, I'm not going to use it. Think

526
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: of carbon rod said by that voice, what are you

527
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: talking about?

528
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: Don't ask about it. I don't want it to come out, your.

529
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: Carbon carbon rod to come out?

530
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah. Is that ever going to be a

531
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: thing though, Like, is that ever going to be operational

532
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: or is this just a hypothetical?

533
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: No, no, Well they've been able to demonstrate that they

534
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: can use it. So it's the it's the it's the

535
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: UK Atomic Energy Authority, and they've teamed up your Bristol

536
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: so that if look flict it's got start off as researches.

537
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: But these because at the moment these carbon fourteen rods,

538
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: they know they have a radioactive isotope and at the

539
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: moment they use them for carbon dating, so if you know,

540
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: when they measure how old the dinosaur bone is or

541
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: something like that, So it's the same technology. So this

542
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: is something that potentially, yeah, can be used and they

543
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: need to do something with the carbon rods. So it

544
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: sounds like it's a great way to use something that's

545
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: going to be around for a long time and make

546
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: it practical. So is it going to happen? Looks like

547
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: it will. Yeah, I don't see why not.

548
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: We'll stand by everybody. I like the next one because

549
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: it's an intersection of science stuff and stuff that Tiff

550
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: and I enjoy, which is kind of motorbikes electric or

551
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: they call them e bikes, but they're essentially motorbikes. And

552
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: before you tell us about the story, have you noticed,

553
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 1: either of you, all of the stories on the New

554
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: use about these swarms of e bikes, like literally one

555
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: hundred kids at a time out on eboat bikes taking

556
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: over roads and freeways and oh yeah, and some of

557
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: them do one hundred and ten hundred and twenty kilometers. Now,

558
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: they're essentially a motorbike, but they're riding them without helmets,

559
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: and so that shit is I think that's that's going

560
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: to have to be addressed really quickly, because just.

561
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: Before I went back to Tazzy young boy I think

562
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: he might have been fifteen, had an accident and passed

563
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: away on an e bike.

564
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so sad. And what people don't understand is

565
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: like an e bike will out accelerate a lot of

566
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: motorbikes because they're electric, so it's instant, instant talk, and

567
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: that's one of that's why EV cars are so Yeah,

568
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: zero to zero to one hundred and three seconds is

569
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: heading towards common now with evs in the old days,

570
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: like like a Ford Falcon with a three point fifty

571
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: one will do it in seven seconds or eight seconds,

572
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: and that was mind blowing. Yeah, they just so far. Sorry, mate,

573
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: tell us the story if you would.

574
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: So, government authorities, people who are in the medical industry

575
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: and emergency departments are raising all these red flags and

576
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: saying they're seeing so many more injuries with kids who

577
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: are using these e bikes. And look, this is the

578
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: tough one, isn't it. The reality of it is that, Yes,

579
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: I think the biggest issue is the importation of bikes

580
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: that exceed the speed limit. So there are two types

581
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: of e devices we're talking about. So you've got scooters

582
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: which are totally electric and they are limited. I think

583
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: the speed limit in Victoria is twenty two kilometers in

584
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: our maximum for an e But with an e bike

585
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: it's slightly different because these e bikes they've got what

586
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: we call battery assist or motor assisted, so you can

587
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: pedal normally and then you can click into battery mode.

588
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: And that's why they're allowed on the roads because they're

589
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: effectively a bike, but they've also got a battery and

590
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: a motor in them. But the ones you're talking about,

591
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: they actually look like motorbikes and they are very, very

592
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: very fast. So there's a very because the thing is

593
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: on a pushbike you can go more than twenty two

594
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: kilometers an hour, so you know, regardless of chronics. So

595
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: the reality of it is when you then combine them

596
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: with an e bike, yes, it is very fast. The

597
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: challenge of course is again you know, I guess what

598
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: are the legalities of the importation of these e bucks.

599
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: We don't make them in Australia, we're just importing them.

600
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: You can go to Big w and buy one there

601
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: all over the place, and it comes down to well,

602
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, if someone's doing the wrong thing on the roads,

603
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: whether you're doing the wrong thing as a cyclist, whether

604
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: you're doing the wrong thing as an e bike rider

605
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: or a motorist, then you can get pulled out by

606
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: the police in charge. You can be fine. Mind, the

607
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: issue of safety of young people being doing stupid things

608
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 2: on a very very very powerful, quickly accelerating e bike

609
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: is the big concern. But I wanted to touch on

610
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: another article that is adjoining to this, because e bikes

611
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: can be really really valuable for people who are less

612
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: mobile and can assist them greatly. And the flip side

613
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: to all of this is a study, a scientific study

614
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: has found something really surprising that from a fitness perspective,

615
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: people who are older, say fifty to eighty three. They

616
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: did a research study between the age of fifty to

617
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Speaker 2: eighty three and they found that people who are in

618
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 2: their older stages of life using e bikes are actually

619
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: healthier and mentally more focused because they're riding and they're

620
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: being more active, and so there are measurable cognitive and

621
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: mental health benefits from real cycling even though they're using

622
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: a bike. So if they're using a traditional bike, now

623
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: As people get older, then it's harder for them to

624
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: use a pedal bike. But if they've got an e

625
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: bike where they can get electric assists, then they're more

626
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: likely to be independent and riding. And what the found is,

627
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: and this is the lead research for a lady by

628
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: the name of Louise and Leyland said that in real

629
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: world urban environments it can make a really big difference

630
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: because being outdoors, it adds sensory input, navigation, social interaction,

631
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 2: and it can't be replicated by just doing some sort

632
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: of exercise indoors. So howering older people and helping them

633
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: stay on the road longer or helping them stay mobile

634
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: longer using e by technology is going to be really beneficial.

635
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 2: So if we suddenly ban e bikes because Alaric and

636
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: kids are getting out there and they're riding too fast,

637
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: what they're effectively doing is making it harder for older

638
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: people who are going to get real that have benefits

639
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: and physical benefits from riding e bikes. So I just

640
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: wanted to throw two of them into the mix.

641
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, dude. I one hundred percent agree

642
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: with that, lady, And you like that. The thing about it,

643
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: it's all about like with everything. It's almost like dose dependent.

644
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: People go, oh, that's bad. It depends on how much

645
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: of it, or you know, like an e bike with

646
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, five hundred watts of power, which is

647
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: what they come two hundred and fifty watts, which doesn't

648
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: mean much to everyone, but that's like what they come

649
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: out with. It's not a lot of power, right, and

650
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: they actually won't go faster than twenty k's. But then

651
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: when they've got bikes which you've got five thousand lots

652
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: of power, which they also have five kilowatts, right, they've

653
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: got these very very light things that are actually very

654
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: high powered. And as you correctly point out, we're talking

655
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: about different things that just happen to have the same name.

656
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: And you think about an older person like TiVo, all

657
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, she's got she can ride the bike,

658
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: she can pedal it, she can have some assist if

659
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: she needs, and she's used her brain, as you suggested,

660
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: to navigate potential threats and dangers, and she's solving problems

661
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: in real time and she can Yeah, I agree, And

662
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: I wish that my only caveat would be with the

663
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: older older people, which sounds hilarious, but maybe tricycles, not bicycles,

664
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: just for I definitely wouldn't want Ronald Mary out on

665
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: one of them. I think everyone around Maybe it depends

666
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: on the individual, of course, but maybe around seventy seventy

667
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: five we should start thinking about something with a bit

668
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: more stability than two wheels. But other than that, I

669
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: think it's it's a great I hadn't really thought of it, so, yeah,

670
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: that's a good highlight. Yeah.

671
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: Wasn't there a motorbike that came out that we were

672
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: talking about on the show a few years ago that

673
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: had some sort of internal gyroscope that made it more stable?

674
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: Do you remember that.

675
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I don't know that ever went to production,

676
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: but I remember that there's but there is. I think

677
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: there's one motorbike that you push a button at the

678
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: lights and little wheels come out at the back, like

679
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: training wheels, So as you roll up to the light,

680
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: seas little wheels come out, so you literally don't even

681
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: have to put your feet down.

682
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: That's for you, mate.

683
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think, I mean, honestly, as I

684
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: get older, I think a lot about these, you know,

685
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: And I'm dealing with mum and dad right now, and

686
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we like. There are so many things,

687
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: and we've spoken about this maybe once. But if I

688
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: had all the dough in the world and I could

689
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: just I could do whatever I want. One of the

690
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: things I would do is I would get an acre

691
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: of space and I would build a playground for people

692
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: over sixty five and essentially a playground, and make it

693
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: as safe as humanly possible. People would get coached the

694
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: first time or two on how to use everything, and

695
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: I would make it free. If the government did that,

696
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: I would respect the government, just because you know, we

697
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: don't stop playing because we grow old. We grow old

698
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: because we stop playing and play for grown ups, and

699
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean real play, physical play in a balanced strength, coordination, fitness,

700
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: muscular endurance, aerobic endurance, spatial awareness, interaction with others, socializing.

701
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: If you could build something like that that people used regularly,

702
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: such a fucking three dimensional physical, mental, emotional, healthy thing

703
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: for people to do.

704
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: That is the best thing ever. One of my Do

705
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: you remember my friend Tina.

706
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: Who I do, Oh yeah, she's nice, she's nice.

707
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: In our early thirties, she decided for her birthday that

708
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: would go and do a McDonald's party, and we're told

709
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: off by the management for using the playground equipment at macas.

710
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: Who's that old cunt sliding down that tube and pushing

711
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: that all year old ahead of him?

712
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: But I think it was in Pran and so it

713
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: was one of those big indoor things with tubes and

714
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 2: we're crawling all right, asked to leave by the manager. Yeah, shocked.

715
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: We also went to a video shop once on someone

716
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: else's birthday wearing a pajamas and moccasins. Yeah, but see

717
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: the adult play I think that you're right though. I

718
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: think that's a great idea, you.

719
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: Know, mate, I'm not kidding. I would go. I would

720
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: legit go because how fun is climbing fucking swinging, like balancing? Oh?

721
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: You tif you would fucking love it. You'd love it, mate,

722
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: I'd love it. So many people I know, like, once

723
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: you get over your bullshit, your ego, your fucking self importance,

724
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: fuck all that. That's all unhealthy, emotional fucking shit. Just

725
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: go down. Put your ego at the front door, and

726
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: your self esteem fuck it. Put those in the lockers

727
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: next to your stinky socks and just fucking get out there.

728
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: Just But I bet half of our audience or more

729
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: ago and fuck I would actually do that. That would

730
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: be good.

731
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: Couldn't we just put a sign outside just average playgrounds

732
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: and say between this time and this time adults only.

733
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know, but because I think the children's

734
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: playgrounds wouldn't be ideal for the for the oldies, so

735
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: I would I would design that environment so government, I

736
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: will do that for free free. I will never charge

737
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: you one cent. If you give me the financial resources

738
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and the space, I'll develop this for you for free.

739
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: And I will get a team of volunteers who will

740
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: also work for free that I will train and will

741
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: revolutionize aged care. So there you go. I don't know

742
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: that this will ever get to them, but you know,

743
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: if you choose to do that, I'm in. I'm on board.

744
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: I'd almost almost make that my purpose for at least

745
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: year or two. How good would it be? Like that

746
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: excites me? Yeah, doing that for free excites me. Then

747
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: getting a high paid gig like truly give me that

748
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: project because that's such a fucking great thing for people.

749
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind being your crash test dummy on that too.

750
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'd be there it all out.

751
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: Like if I if I pulled that off and I said, mate,

752
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: would you volunteer ten hours a week? Tip, would you

753
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: volunteer whatever? Five?

754
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: Ten?

755
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm almost positive you'd both go yes, and Patrick you'd

756
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: probably go. Can I do more?

757
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

758
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to go home now, you know,

759
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: and if maybe you as well, I have to go home? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?

760
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: Can I just sleep on the big fucking that ropeie

761
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: thing over there that you know? What's that? Like that

762
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: webbing that they have like that, like the giant mesh? Yeah?

763
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: How good would it be? All right, let's let's not

764
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: get way laid with my dreams and visions for the elderly.

765
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: Well, can we bring dogs with as crago? Because I

766
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: think that's important. Lunar and Fritzi should be.

767
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: There as long as I think dogs, and I think

768
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 1: you know what also like for a little period of time,

769
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: like a care or a person. But I would have

770
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: it staffed. It would have to be set hours, and

771
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: you'd have to have at least one or two. Well,

772
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: if I know, there's a bunch of shits sort out,

773
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: but you sort it out. It's like with every good thing,

774
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: there are always hiccups and problems and things to resolve

775
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: and work around. But what I love is I love

776
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: the idea truly of doing something for nothing. Then people

777
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: can't question you. You know, there's no agenda. I'm not

778
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: going to open a fucking this. There's not going to

779
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: be anything sold via this. I want people to volunteer.

780
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: I might step away in two years and someone else

781
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: takes over. But I think when you go, and I know,

782
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: it's very rare when I truly have no agenda, no

783
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: commercial interest, and if there was some way that money

784
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: was made from it, I don't want it, do you

785
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So yeah, I just think that

786
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: that is anyway, let's not get too weird and deep.

787
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: Patrick, Well, i'd just say just on the same theme.

788
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: A few years ago, my friends who lived down the

789
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: road from you were Christmas. I think they got me

790
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: a voucher to a rock climbing place. Now I've done

791
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: a lot of rock climbing over the years. It was

792
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: my kind of chosen sport. And they got me a

793
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: voucher and they came with me to this rock climbing

794
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: gym and I thought this is for kids. You know.

795
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: They had harnesses where you could step up poles and

796
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: climb up, and I thought, it's not real rock climbing. Well,

797
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: you know, obviously I was really excited to just be

798
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: with my friends anyway, but it was very much like

799
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: a kid's playground type gym. Oh my god, I had

800
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: the best time ever. It was so cool because the

801
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: harness is rather than needing a blayer, so a blayer

802
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: is when you go climbing, say indoor and potentially outdoors

803
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: as well, you can do as well. It's called top

804
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 2: roping where you put on a harness, You've got a

805
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: rope attached to you, someone that's holding the other end

806
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: of the rope, and you start to free climb and

807
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: then they pull the rope up in that way if

808
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: you fall, it takes the fall, where in this case

809
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: they had this automatic mechanism that allows you to be

810
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: able to clip in. You start climbing and it takes

811
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: you up automatically, so it doesn't matter if you fall.

812
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: It was a bit nerve wracking for me, who had

813
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: done rock climbing, to think that I didn't have a bulayer.

814
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: It was all automatic. That was a bit scary. That

815
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: was the most thing for me. But one of the

816
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: things that I liked the most is they had a

817
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: series of poles and you step up onto one pole,

818
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: so just the width of a normal pole in the

819
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: ground like a ballard, and they progressively got higher and

820
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: higher and higher, and they went round in a circle

821
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: and you had to try to jump from one to

822
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: the next, to the next to the next, and it

823
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: was so much fun and it just made me think

824
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: about it when you were talking about a playground for adults,

825
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: you know, those sorts of things, and you know it

826
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: was geared at kids, but adults were obviously able to

827
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: do that. You know, there was another wall where you

828
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: could compete with somebody else to climb as high as

829
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: you could, and then when you got to the top,

830
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: you hit the button and it locked. It locked in

831
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: your time, so you actually have a time speed climb

832
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: as well.

833
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think you want to kill

834
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: old people. I want to. I want to. You know,

835
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: old people cannot do any of that. I'm talking about

836
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: old people. I'm not talking about strong, healthy, fifty five

837
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: year olds or whatever the fuck you are.

838
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: But straining for the next Ninja warrior.

839
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, have you actually met an old person?

840
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. Come up to La

841
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: Tri Valley to the Ron and Mary Show and you'll

842
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: go Ah, there it is. I get it. I want

843
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: to know about I kind of want to know. But

844
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: I asked this question with trepidation. Optional underwear? Fuck the

845
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: pros and cons of going commando?

846
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: Study and I thought it might be something interesting.

847
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Notice how his voice went real high that time, Tip,

848
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: it went up four octaves. You know he's a bit

849
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: nervous or gonna bullshit when his voice goes up so

850
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: many octaves.

851
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Can I just ask the question, there's anybody can

852
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: commando today?

853
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 4: No?

854
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: I no, I've never gone commander in my life. I

855
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: don't think we should ask tiff that.

856
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: I think that's today.

857
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Great. Oh that's really good to know.

858
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: Did you say great underpants?

859
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: What?

860
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: Well? You open the door? What makes them great? When

861
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I say you opened the door? No, I mean, I mean,

862
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: I realize that can be metaphoric in many ways. I

863
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: just mean I'm not talking about oh fuck help, I'm

864
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: just talking about the conversational door.

865
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: Continue on.

866
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely. There's some stats out of the United States that

867
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 2: say that a poll of American people, about seven percent

868
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,479
Speaker 2: of Americans so they always go commando, and about say

869
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 2: that they often go without underwear. Now, I don't think

870
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: I ever have gone Commando. The whole idea of put

871
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: on a pair of genes and not being able to

872
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 2: get everything or feels cares.

873
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I know what are the alleged benefits.

874
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: Well, for men, it's more about being able to have

875
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: the you know, you not being constricted because when you

876
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: bring your testicles too close to your body, they heat up,

877
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: and they because they should. The reason that they're external

878
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: is because for sperm production, they know it's supposed to

879
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: be better for you. So you're potentially lowering your sperm

880
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: count if you wear tight underwear.

881
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: What if I bring my testicles close to you? Is

882
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: that the same? Also on this topic, we've had a

883
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: guy on the show called Lucas aon Who's uh Lucas,

884
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: He's no, he's great, he's great. He's in the integrative

885
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: kind of space and the bio hacker space, and he's

886
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: right up there. He's like one of the I don't know,

887
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: top ten in the world's highly regarded. But he's always

888
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: banging on about icing your balls always yeah I know what, yeah, yeah, yeah,

889
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, icing your balls. Just look it up icing

890
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: testical icing.

891
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: Dow algorithm algorithm.

892
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying to you, right, now I'm saying

893
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: that if some of the boys out there want to

894
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: find out, we'll just say, what are the benefits of

895
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: icing your testicles? It's goods clinical, there's not going to

896
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: Hopefully no pictures come up. Oh he's a photo of

897
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: the step one. Yeah, so.

898
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: Patrick's just gone to get the ice cube tray out

899
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,240
Speaker 3: of his freezer.

900
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Do you know what interests me on this this Patrick?

901
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: The fact that only seven petrol powered cars sold in

902
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: Norway last month, seven in the whole country changing.

903
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, evidently it helps increase testos thrown levels and sperm quality,

904
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: boost energy and sex drive, and improves sleep quality. Oh

905
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 2: that could be good for sleep quality. I better check

906
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 2: my face.

907
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: Are we're talking about petrol cars or.

908
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm still icing nuts?

909
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: Right? So just say that again.

910
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: Sorry, benefits, well, sperm quality, sleep, all those sorts of things. Yeah,

911
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 4: I just said it and I closed the window.

912
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, but it was faced

913
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: the right amount of time. I don't want to end

914
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 2: up frozen jets crackers.

915
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: Well, if you can do that for your one, I'm

916
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: just asking chatters, do you know what you need to get?

917
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: Get an egg cup with really cold water in it? Oh,

918
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: I know, Maybe I don't know. Maybe you figure out

919
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: your own protocol. I'm not sure.

920
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: How about I will if you do for a week

921
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 2: and then the next episode will report back.

922
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: Fuck, no, no chance. You do it. You do it.

923
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: You do it for the good of the show and

924
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: the good of science, and we don't need any videos,

925
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: all right. Talk to us about Norway only selling seven

926
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: cars that are petrol powered in a whole month of

927
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: car sales.

928
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: That interesting? Yeah, so there was for the month of January,

929
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 2: the twenty nine hybrids were sold and ninety eight diesel

930
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: cars were sold. Okay, so we're talking diesel, but battery

931
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 2: electric took more than two thousand sold and only seven

932
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: actual petrol cars. So they're switch over from you know,

933
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: petrol power to EV has been amazing, and so that

934
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: was just the I guess the biggest uptake of any

935
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: country in the world has been in Norway. That's a

936
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: pretty interesting, isn't it.

937
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find out what your guess without

938
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: looking the population of Norway.

939
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, maybe I don't know, eight thousand people,

940
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: eight million people, sorry, eight million, Maybe I don't know.

941
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: Is that good? What's your guess? Norway.

942
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: I'm not good at that game.

943
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, just because I was thinking two thousand cars

944
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: is not a lot of cars to sell in a month.

945
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: But the answer is about five and a half million,

946
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: five point six, So you're not Yeah, because I could

947
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: have guessed anything between three and forty. I wouldn't know,

948
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: So you're way accurate, more accurate than I would have been. Perfect.

949
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more and then let's hit

950
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: the frog and toad. You choose, bro, you choose something

951
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: that fascinates you or I can.

952
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: No, I will. I will a new start up. And

953
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 2: this look, I don't know whether you this. I don't

954
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: want to sound morbid, but thinking about death, I came

955
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: to a decision that I wanted to be cremated. And

956
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 2: then I thought, well, then what happens to my ashes?

957
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: And now I know? I am so excited about this

958
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: a start I saw this a startup as talking about

959
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: being able to send a thousand people's ashes into space affordably.

960
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: And we're talking as soon as twenty twenty seven. So

961
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: there's a guy who's the founder, Ryan Mitchell. He founded

962
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: a company called Space Beyond, and this stems back to

963
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 2: when he was just a young guy looking at the sky,

964
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: and he'd been to a recently, had been to the

965
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: death of a relative and they were cremated, and he

966
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 2: went to an ash spreading ceremony, and then he thought,

967
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: now what it's over, you know, So in this case,

968
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: I just thought that would be so cool to be

969
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: able to get my ashes into space. Look. I think

970
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: it's because remember we've spoken this on our show a

971
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 2: few times about my bucket list. So I've got two

972
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: bucket lists. I've got the bucket list of things that

973
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: are achievable and the bucket list of things that are

974
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: never going to happen. And so the achievable one is, yeah,

975
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: I want to go to Japan and that sort of stuff.

976
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: But the bucket list of unachievables is going into space.

977
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: But I like the idea of my ashes being fired

978
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 2: off into space. I think that would be amazing. And

979
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: also it would be cool because when you say, well,

980
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: people are going to go visit you, Crago, would you

981
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: go visit.

982
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: Look if you're in space, probably not, but I would

983
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: look at you through my telescope that I would buy,

984
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: of course at eight thousand X. And I wonder if

985
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: that star.

986
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: Is Patrick, Well, we're all made of stardust anyway. So

987
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: I like the idea of returning, But isn't that the

988
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: coolest things just me?

989
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's you. That's you. It's not the all

990
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: this thing. But I respect that it is for you

991
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: because my critical mind goes, okay.

992
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 3: So.

993
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: Prove to me that I am in there, Like you

994
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: put a thousand people's ashes in there?

995
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

996
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: Do you? Or do you just go to empty a

997
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: few ashtrays and go that's Brian, I don't know.

998
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, cynical, And I'm thinking, are they like a thousand

999
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: separate little compartments?

1000
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's my my like if that was one

1001
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: hundred percent, let okay, let's not be cynical. If that's

1002
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: true and you or party you will being, then I

1003
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: think it's for you. It's fucking amazing like me just

1004
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: understanding how you work and what you love, and if

1005
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: that was true, then I definitely think it's for you.

1006
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: Fucking great.

1007
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: Yea.

1008
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: I decided recently as well, Craigo. I've got the ashes

1009
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: of my first dog and and hopefully Fritz is going

1010
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: to be with me for another a long, long, long time.

1011
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: But part of my will will be to have my

1012
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: dog's ashes added to my ashes as well.

1013
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: I just thought, fuck, how can I make fun of you? Now?

1014
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: Can you stop?

1015
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: That?

1016
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: Isn't that nice?

1017
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: Well it's beautiful?

1018
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: But yeah I want so Fitzi and Ferdinand, my two dogs,

1019
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 2: will be with me forever. Isn't it great? And then

1020
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: we could be space together.

1021
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: Well, can I just say you're probably going to live

1022
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: a thirty another thirty years, so there's a fair chance

1023
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: there'll be a third and maybe a fourth dog. Yeah,

1024
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: not that Fritz is not going to live forty years,

1025
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: be the first Schnauzer in the world to live to forty.

1026
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: But on the off chance that he dies, let's say thirty,

1027
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: there might be another dog. Tell people how to find

1028
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: you yep.

1029
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: If you go to websites now, dot com, dot au

1030
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: and if you want to chat to us, we want

1031
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: to talk about it, thinks Max and Mark. Feel free

1032
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 2: to give us a topic to chat about. It could

1033
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: be anything. It could be with you you go commando

1034
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: or not? See that would be interesting to know how

1035
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: many of our listeners work commando while listening or And

1036
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: the other thing too is if you want to do

1037
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: some health exercises with me, tie Chi at home dot

1038
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: com todau and we could do terfict. Yeah.

1039
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: If people want to get punched in the face by

1040
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: you or in a group where they could potentially get

1041
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: punched in the face by you, do you have any

1042
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: spots like it? Can people come to your group or

1043
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: are they kind of closed now because you're a big

1044
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: deal and famous?

1045
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: They can absolutely come to my group by training people

1046
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: at nine am on a Sunday, I only do one

1047
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: group session a week. Is it a closed little studio

1048
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: in Sinkira and it's epic? Ah?

1049
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: So email us at at my website if you have

1050
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: a website. I know you have an email of course,

1051
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: or tell people say again tifcook dot com. Yeah. So

1052
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: if you want to go get punched in the face, Patrick, well,

1053
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about the ring. You've done. Well,

1054
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: I can see you restraining yourself over there. Well done.

1055
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: I was actually thinking I was going to ask Tiff

1056
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: if maybe I could come along one Sunday morning. I

1057
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: didn't realize you did it at nine am. Can I come?

1058
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 3: Yes?

1059
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: Please?

1060
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: This is good. I'm definitely coming to that. I am

1061
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: fucking filming the shit out of that with me. Will

1062
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: you be gentle with me? No? Sucking man up. Go

1063
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: over there, put on your gloves, get the fuck punched

1064
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: out of you by an almost girl.

1065
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 3: And thing session. That session, it's it's all strength.

1066
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: Hey, tif, Tiff, Tiff, it is a boxing session.

1067
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: When Patrick comes, I'll have the gloves on hand.

1068
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: All right, we got to We've got to go. Patrick.

1069
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: Don't start a new conversations. Okay, all right, you kids

1070
00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: will say goodbye affair, but everyone thank you. Say goodbye team. Bye, team,