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Speaker 1: Apogae Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom?

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Speaker 1: Podcast?

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Speaker 2: Actually, right just before this, we were talking about vegetables

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Speaker 2: and nutrients and boiling the shit out of them.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing, texture of food.

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Speaker 2: I've actually got a bit of information that I found out.

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Speaker 2: It's either going to be really helpful information for a

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Speaker 2: mum or really fucking annoying to know. Yeah, so what

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Speaker 2: I found out about the microwave. We know microwaves are

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Speaker 2: not great, right, that's not you. However, we all still

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Speaker 2: use them.

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Speaker 1: Yea.

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Speaker 2: You know that when you put food into a microwave, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it kills any nutrients in that food supposedly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I've been told. I know. But

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Speaker 1: how many microwave dinners do you ever feel well if you.

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Speaker 2: Put some microwave with vegetables as an example, if you

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Speaker 2: put vegetables in the microwave. Again, this is what I

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Speaker 2: have been told. I haven't done my own being.

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Speaker 1: Told from somebody or listened to a podcast, got off

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Speaker 1: a podcast somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, and they said, if you put vegetables in

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Speaker 2: the microwave, it kills the nutrients into vegetables. There's actually

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Speaker 2: no real benefit. Yeah, I do agree, do you put

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Speaker 2: anything in the microwave?

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Speaker 1: Ever, I don't you know what if I'm reflecting on

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Speaker 1: my I hate reflecting on age actually, but going through

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Speaker 1: my age group. So it's just say twenties to thirties,

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Speaker 1: when life was so busy, I did put a lot

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Speaker 1: in the microwaveah, And then I think I got to

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Speaker 1: my thirties and then someone had told me about baby formula,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you heat a bottle up in the microwave,

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Speaker 1: and they gave me a little bit of low down

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Speaker 1: on that, and I think I stopped from their microplastics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I swapped out. I got the glass. I did the

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Speaker 1: whole change because I was even saying, like, by putting

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Speaker 1: the water into the microwave without the lid on, obviously

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Speaker 1: because we didn't put the lid on, you're putting it

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Speaker 1: in there exposing it. And I was like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to kill my baby. So I swopped everything up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: unless I'm reheating something like leftovers, very rare occasion for me,

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Speaker 1: but like those sorts of things, yeah, I'll put it

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Speaker 1: in there, but I don't put too much in there

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Speaker 1: at all, Like if I'm going to do like a

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Speaker 1: handful of veggies just for me, for instance, Like if

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Speaker 1: it's just me, I think it's just an automatic process.

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Speaker 1: Now I just put them in a pot. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I went through a stage where you can get the

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Speaker 1: steam fresh veggies and they are in packets and you

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Speaker 1: put them in the microwave and it's just that amount

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Speaker 1: of veggies. And I would add it to like things

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Speaker 1: like two minute noodles or like I can have tuned

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Speaker 1: or something like that to just like as a Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obviously I was doing the wrong.

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Speaker 2: Having Yeah, I was vegetables in the plas dick going.

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Speaker 1: Because there the plastic sticks to it. Like by the

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Speaker 1: time you ended that, there's such runk right down into

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Speaker 1: the veggies that you're supposedly thinking you're putting nutrients into

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Speaker 1: your body.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just putting plastic in Yep, another toxic meal

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Speaker 2: for me coming up.

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Speaker 1: Am I a bad mum for pulling out all stops?

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Speaker 1: I had such a tantrum towards my ten year old child.

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Speaker 1: I felt like I was out of control and this

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Speaker 1: was all over the phone. So we went up to

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Speaker 1: the wild Wild West for the weekend. Much to my

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Speaker 1: child's absolute she was discussed moun eyes Eyes rodeo and

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Speaker 1: it was a brilliant weekend. I think it's alwayst like

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Speaker 1: a bucket list kind of thing that you should do.

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Speaker 1: Once it was wild the bulls of the entertainment, like

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Speaker 1: it's an international, like this international writer is wicked, wicked fun.

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Speaker 1: But again Child left behind, very angry, very disgusted that

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Speaker 1: I was leaving. Not worried about Dad, no, just mum.

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Speaker 1: So I'd copped it Wednesday night. In the lead up

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Speaker 1: I was flying out Thursday afternoon, so there was already

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Speaker 1: that tension right, it had been building. I could feel

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Speaker 1: it building. Thursday Friday was districts. She made districts for

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Speaker 1: athletics after her sports day, which was wonderful. So Nan

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Speaker 1: out in the Thursday afternoon. All as well comes Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: This was about seven twenty five am. Now Saturday mornings

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Speaker 1: for us in a normal standard, Saturday morning is an

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Speaker 1: eight am game start. For Elsie playing netball. Seven twenty

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Speaker 1: five I get a message from Elsie, can you text

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Speaker 1: the coach? I'm not going to netpa.

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Speaker 2: The morning after a night at.

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Speaker 1: I was like, let's call it a motel like it

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Speaker 1: was old, and I hadn't slept at all. Really on

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Speaker 1: the Friday night, when I finally do wake up, it's

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Speaker 1: to a text message going, mom, just texta coach. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going my legs are sore. I was like, like, fuck,

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Speaker 1: you should have left home already. You start on the

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Speaker 1: court at eight o'clock. We don't live around the corner anyway.

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Speaker 1: I ring mum, so my mum. I rang Nanade and

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Speaker 1: I was like, so, Elsie's texting me saying this from

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Speaker 1: her iPad A why she got her iPad? B? Get

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Speaker 1: her fucking moving please. It's a team sport. Also, three

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Speaker 1: of the girls that she plays netball with we're at

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Speaker 1: the same district's carnival for Thursday Friday and they're still playing.

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Speaker 1: So the answer is no, Mom, I'm not letting her

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Speaker 1: back on a team. Nanada's like, oh, well, her legs,

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Speaker 1: so I don't give a fuck if her legs stretch

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Speaker 1: them like she can't bay on. Now. This is absolutely

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Speaker 1: this is not showing any form of team effort, team work.

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Speaker 1: I said, all resilience, just get me to go to netball,

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Speaker 1: get up. So then I've got Elsie still texting me.

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Speaker 1: Stop calling Nan. I'm not going to netball. You can't

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Speaker 1: make me. Oh, Honestly, Katie, I was like, at this stage,

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Speaker 1: she's going off at me on text. I'm reading the text.

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Speaker 1: I've got mum on speakerphone, so I'm doing three things

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Speaker 1: with this device whilst, you know, telling my mum what

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Speaker 1: I thought. So then at the same time, NaN's walking

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Speaker 1: up to go to Elsie in the house, and then

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Speaker 1: I hear all of this chaos. Mom's going else. Mom's

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Speaker 1: on the phone. You need to go to a netple.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going, you know. Mom turns to me and goes, right,

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Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do with this? So you

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Speaker 1: were a mum once make her? Honestly, I pulled out

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Speaker 1: all stops, Katie. I pulled out every fucking threat in

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Speaker 1: the book. Elsie Thurday, if you do not get up,

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Speaker 1: this is all over the phone in a motel with

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Speaker 1: lots of other people, just through those paper thin walls

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Speaker 1: at seven am and in the morning, Elsie that I

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Speaker 1: don't get up and get dressed. You're not letting your

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Speaker 1: team down. If you do not go, I am going

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Speaker 1: to take your iPad off you for the whole time

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Speaker 1: you can go to school and ask for a school one. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: talk about reflective moments. I was out of control. I

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Speaker 1: was like, you will not watch one out of TV

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Speaker 1: for the whole of Tame three. You will not go

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Speaker 2: No ice cream for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: I was like out of control. I was wild. Nane goes,

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Speaker 1: I was just getting dressed. She goes, I hate you,

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Speaker 1: and then the phone hangs up. I was sitting in

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Speaker 1: bed and I was like, don't worry about Dad. No,

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Speaker 1: he's still asleep. Then I wanted to get the pillow

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to mother him. You made this happen.

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, I got out of bed,

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Speaker 1: I put my joggers on, I put my fucking walking

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Speaker 1: to just diffuse. I was just like, I'm so angry.

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Speaker 1: I had no control over the situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, does that normally happen on a Saturday morning? Or

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Speaker 2: was she just playing up the fact that you weren't

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Speaker 2: there so she'd given you a hard time the day

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Speaker 2: before for going away. It's all right for dad to

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Speaker 3: He's allowed to do that for the whole year. Yeah, mums, no,

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Speaker 3: you have to be all about me. And so that's

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Speaker 3: what I just carried on. And so then you've got

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Speaker 3: the stress of helping Nan as well, because.

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Speaker 1: I know, well then I just like it. So I

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Speaker 1: left it. I went for my walk, and my phone

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Speaker 1: buzzed twice, which I know is our security system saying

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Speaker 1: like someone's either entered the house or left the house

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, and I I just went, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: so they're gone. That's good. I'd finish my walk. I

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Speaker 1: came back and I said, look, Mom, I understand how

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Speaker 1: much I'm asking of you. And it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: running around and I get all of that, but I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that you've pushed on this because saw legs doesn't

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Speaker 1: it quit to just not going yeah, Whereas my mom

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Speaker 1: is very much like if she's got saw legs, she

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to do it. You're putting too much pressure

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Speaker 1: on her. She's ten, she's a child. She's that like

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Speaker 1: as in, I'm the problem. No, when you sign up

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Speaker 2: I remember all the times when the girls did dance,

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Speaker 2: and they would do like the concert and the this

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Speaker 2: remember the amount of kids that were then allowed to

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Speaker 2: have the Monday off school because they'd had such a

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Speaker 2: tiring weekend. And I remember saying to the girls, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: not you have in the day off school. They'd be like,

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Speaker 2: why she gets doing? She gets doing everybody else's mom.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, good on them, But it's not tea

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Speaker 2: to you anything. Oh, you're a bit tired, so you

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Speaker 2: can't go today. Imagine that in the real world when

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Speaker 2: you go and you have a job and you're in

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Speaker 2: the workforce, and you go, oh, I can't come into

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Speaker 2: the I'm a bit tired. Had a big weekend.

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Speaker 1: No. I get a message late that afternoon from a

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Speaker 1: friend that's at netball and goes, god, Elsie played a

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Speaker 1: blinder of a game today. That's probably because I was

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Speaker 1: a fucking psychopath on the phone to her and banned

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Speaker 1: her from everything that she ever dreamt of. And then

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Speaker 1: she goes out and plays a blinder. She hads all legs, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how are you saw legs? Oh?

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Speaker 2: My god?

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Speaker 1: Better did they They got better?

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Speaker 2: Pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: I genuinely like I do think about that straight jacket

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Speaker 1: a lot, guaring a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But also, isn't it funny or not funny? It's

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Speaker 2: not funny at all. Isn't it interesting how you can

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Speaker 2: be all of those kilometers away, a plane ride away,

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Speaker 2: and they're still going to hunt to you down and

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Speaker 2: make you pay.

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Speaker 1: Have this, mum?

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Speaker 2: How about a fuck up your weekend? Oh you decided

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Speaker 2: to go away without us.

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Speaker 1: I told him that I really ruined it for you