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Speaker 1: This is Brownies Podcast!

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Brownies Podcast. Oh, jeez. That was rough. What

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Speaker 2: is that?

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Speaker 1: It might sound a little bit different. Old mate Dean

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Speaker 1: is still out from the Logies, so this is obviously

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Speaker 1: being recorded.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember last year, he had this episode as well.

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Speaker 2: He missed his flight. From Brisbane to Bali, remember?

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Speaker 3: No, no, Sydney to Brisbane to Bali, and the flight

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Speaker 3: got cancelled in Brisbane. He got to Brisbane. It got

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Speaker 3: cancelled out of Brisbane to Bali. Then he had to

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Speaker 3: fly back to Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: That's right. It was an absolute shitstorm. To get his

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Speaker 2: flight to Bali. So he's just pulled the pin completely today,

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Speaker 2: has he?

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Speaker 3: Well, to give context, Dino, he's one of Pang's writers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. Sam Pang did a magnificent job again,

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Speaker 2: our boy, hosting.

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Speaker 3: The Logies last night.

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Speaker 2: And Daryl Summers' bitch. Daryl Summers bitch, that's right.

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Speaker 3: He was too, up in the room.

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Speaker 1: I got a photo from Dean at about 5.30 in

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Speaker 1: the morning and he wasn't looking particularly fresh. So fair

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Speaker 1: to say that he's had the morning off just to

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Speaker 1: recover and get himself back in the right headspace.

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Speaker 3: Did they end up in Daryl's room again?

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Speaker 1: Mate, I saw them in a lift, Sam. Jack Charles,

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Speaker 1: who's here on a Nova, and Dean, and that was

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Speaker 1: about 5.15, and neither of them– and one of them

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Speaker 1: was holding a beer the wrong way up.

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Speaker 2: Which was a good sign. Yeah, and one of them

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Speaker 2: had Aussie ostrich in some sort of weird sexual movement.

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Speaker 2: Aussie ostrich.

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Speaker 3: It was a– what about– it was a good monologue

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Speaker 3: by Pangy Norton again.

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Speaker 2: I love– He does not care.

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Speaker 3: About Channel 7.

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Speaker 2: Channel 7 were hosting. It was on Channel 7 Network

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Speaker 2: last night, the Logies. First time in a few years.

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Speaker 3: First time in a few years. I love the reference

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Speaker 3: he made. I love the reference he made. Obviously, all

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Speaker 3: the legal issues and the defamation case that all the

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Speaker 3: channels had. But he said, I feel very secure in

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Speaker 3: the knowledge that Channel 7 will represent me well in

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Speaker 3: any defamation case. They're not actually paying me for tonight,

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Speaker 3: but they're actually paying my whole year's rent, which is

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Speaker 3: great because then they'll know my address so they can

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Speaker 3: send the Thai masseuse. Referring to, I think, some shady

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Speaker 3: stuff going on in the spotlight, just some inducements when

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Speaker 3: they were trying to get guests over the line, brown

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Speaker 3: dogs throughout the year.

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Speaker 2: But that was pretty good. Just like Ricky Gervais when

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Speaker 2: he did the Oscars, I like the fact that no

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Speaker 2: one is safe. If you're sitting there in the crowd,

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Speaker 2: you know you might get picked off. I mean, it

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Speaker 2: was low-hanging fruit, but I loved what he had to

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Speaker 2: say about Ray Gunn. Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Nine Network who have just bought us

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Speaker 1: two spectacular weeks of Olympic sport from Paris. And I'd

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Speaker 1: like to acknowledge our youngest ever gold medalist, 14-year-old.

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Speaker 2: Skateboarder Arisa Tarou. Thank you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now, as a reward, her parents promised her a pet duck. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Ray Gunn's parents have promised to get her breakdancing lessons.

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Speaker 2: It's slow-hanging fruit, right? But I don't think there'd be

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Speaker 2: anyone out there that wouldn't smile or laugh at that. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And they got Ray Gunn on to... to introduce one

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Speaker 2: of the awards, I think it was.

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Speaker 3: So that was nice.

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Speaker 2: What was, I.

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Speaker 1: Must say, a little bit of is that they had

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Speaker 1: all these international celebrities and stuff that were sending videos,

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Speaker 1: and they were from Cameo. No, you can't be paying us.

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not just doing it for the love of

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Speaker 1: the Logies.

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Speaker 3: Well, because Pang did an introduction where he's sitting in

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Speaker 3: his dressing room before it. and Stephen Fry had sent

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Speaker 3: a video. So are you telling me Stephen Fry had

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Speaker 3: sent advice as to how to cope with his second Logies?

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Speaker 3: Are you telling me that was off-camera?

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Speaker 1: I'd just like to do a little investigation as to

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Speaker 1: how some of those celebrity appearances came to be. That's

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Speaker 1: all I'll say.

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Speaker 2: You're kidding.

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Speaker 3: Celebrity appearances made via cameo for the Logies this year.

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Speaker 3: Jesus shows how well we're going.

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Speaker 2: I'm pathetic.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, how's the voice on, dog? Have you heard that?

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Speaker 2: What's happened, dog? I think just an over-strenuous weekend.

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: I obviously did the AFL game yesterday. You did too.

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Speaker 2: Just they worked me hard. They did. Oh, mate, I

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Speaker 2: was interviewing Jack Guinevan and Tommy Lynch pre-game. Then I

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Speaker 2: had Ariane Titmuss, obviously the golden girl of Australia.

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Speaker 3: Arnie, your mate, who had you as the top five

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Speaker 3: Hawthorne player of all time.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm still in the top five. Oh,

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Speaker 2: is that right? Well, she mentioned Mitch Lewis, who she loves.

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Speaker 2: Jack Guinevan, who she loves, and Nick Watson. You've still

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Speaker 2: got Lewis covered. You've got the wizard covered.

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Speaker 3: McKinnon's had a good year.

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Speaker 2: Unless Mitchell Hodge and Franklin are snuck out, I might

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Speaker 2: have ducked down that ladder a little bit. But great

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Speaker 2: to see. I personally feel like just overuse injury.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Were you doing any research last night about networking? Because

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Speaker 3: you are the man that has his ear to the

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Speaker 3: ground more than any man. In this game, in this caper.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. Nothing goes on in this town without

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Speaker 2: the dog having some sort of influence on it. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 2: I was having a deep dive and look at Richmond's list, right?

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Speaker 2: Adam Mouze, it's a tough job taking over from, you know,

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Speaker 2: Damien Hardwick. It is, isn't it? Because he's got three

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Speaker 2: or four years of just pure heartache, really. He's got

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Speaker 2: to move on some really accomplished senior players. He's got

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Speaker 2: to rebuild that premiership list. Dusty's already retired. I think

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Speaker 2: Dylan Grimes is about to announce his retirement if he

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Speaker 2: hasn't already. Then you've got Liam Baker, who's the heart

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Speaker 2: and soul of that footy club. He's going west, isn't he?

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Speaker 2: We all know that.

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Speaker 3: Well, who's more likely? Who's their absolute definite? If you

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Speaker 3: could give me one definite as to leaving the club

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Speaker 3: out of their big names, Bolton, Baker or Rioli?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say all three. All three? Yep. Definites. Definites,

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Speaker 2: Liam Baker going back to Perth. Yes. I think Daniel

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Speaker 2: Rioli will find his way to the Gold Coast. Yes.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure that... they would be overly upset

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Speaker 2: if Shea Bolton left. Really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, Shea Bolton, based on... He's a very good footballer.

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Speaker 2: Played on Hardwick yesterday, kicked three, won that battle. One

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Speaker 2: But I just think that.

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Speaker 3: But a multi-position player, an excitement machine, someone that's got the,

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Speaker 3: you know, can have a similar capability, not capabilities, but

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Speaker 3: excitement and fire starting as a Nick Dacos, say, why

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Speaker 3: would you let a player like that go?

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Speaker 2: It's a funny one, isn't it? Because he's a very

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Speaker 2: good player. But I just think that some of the

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Speaker 2: senior players think he's a bit selfish. Really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Well, I suppose he is an individual type player, isn't he?

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Speaker 2: Very rarely do you see him give the first give.

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Speaker 2: He's in at the centre, bounces a lot at the

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Speaker 2: expense of, you know, they've got Hopper, Taranto, Prestia, like

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Speaker 2: some really accomplished players in there. Broads, you're the trade man.

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Speaker 2: What would you get? What's his value?

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's going to be two first-round picks, probably inside 15. No.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Freo have them too, and they would be willing to

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Speaker 1: give them in that. I would say if they get

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Speaker 1: Baker and Bolton, look for them to charge up the

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Speaker 1: lad next year. That's exactly what they need. Someone to

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Speaker 1: replace Michael Walters, he's kind of coming to the end

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Speaker 1: and doesn't have the impact that he used to. Bolton

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Speaker 1: is the perfect player for them, and they will give

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Speaker 1: two first-round.

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Speaker 2: Picks for him.

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Speaker 3: So Bolton alone, two.

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Speaker 2: Top 15. I'd say first round and second round.

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Speaker 1: No, it'll be two first rounders. He's got four years

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Speaker 1: to go on a contract, and it'll take a lot

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Speaker 2: It'll be done. There's just going to be mass changes

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Speaker 2: at Richmond, I think. Yeah, I think so. Two wins.

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Speaker 2: They were competing for a couple of quarters. But you

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Speaker 2: look at the scoreboard, they end up losing by 60-plus points.

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Speaker 2: And in periods of that game, non-competitive. Their first quarter,

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Speaker 2: like after what they dished up last week with 27 tackles,

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Speaker 2: you look for a response, right? Nine goals to the Hawks,

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Speaker 2: which is the highest scoring quarter of the year by

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Speaker 2: any club.

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Speaker 3: Not acceptable. It was ill-advised, the trade for Taranto, and

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Speaker 3: Hopper especially. Taranto's been serviceable. Hopper has really struggled now.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got a pretty crooked knee, so I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure about his longevity.

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Speaker 2: What about the showdown? Jeez. There was plenty of fire

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Speaker 2: and spice about it. There was shades of Byron Pickett

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Speaker 2: on Red Biglands.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there was too, yes. Byron Pickett's name's been mentioned

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Speaker 3: a bit after this game. What did you think, Brodes,

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Speaker 3: as a Port Adelaide supporter, knowing full well now your

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Speaker 3: best player won't be there for the remainder of the season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to get at least five, I reckon,

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Speaker 1: which we'll see him out of the finals.

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Speaker 3: Can Port Adelaide still win the premiership? The premiership without

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Speaker 3: Dan Houston.

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Speaker 2: They can.

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Speaker 1: We've got a number of good users in the back

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Speaker 1: half that can get us out of that. But, geez,

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Speaker 1: it was, as you said, shades of old. That was

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Speaker 1: a proper hit. And I know Dan. He's a good man,

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Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have tried to obviously knock him out.

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Speaker 1: And it's the second motion, too. It's the hitting the

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Speaker 1: head on the deck that probably knocked him out more

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Speaker 1: so than the actual hit.

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Speaker 3: Well, it might have been because he was asleep, was he?

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Speaker 1: But, yeah, it doesn't matter, unfortunately. He's obviously hit him,

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Speaker 1: and he's hit him hard. And it's taken out the

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Speaker 1: best player too. So which sparked a controversy. Everyone was

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Speaker 1: talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Will they be going for the character? Will they be

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Speaker 3: going for the good character reference? Not to get off,

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Speaker 3: but just to minimise.

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Speaker 2: The Charlie Cameron.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: It's the Basher Hooley. That was the original Basher Hooley.

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Speaker 2: I reckon they'll give him an opportunity to play in

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Speaker 2: the grand final. So four weeks. Yeah. So if you

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Speaker 2: give him four weeks. Based on the Charlie Cameron, Basher

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Speaker 2: Hooley defence.

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Speaker 1: I'm a good fella.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love that defence. Well, I don't think Dan would

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Speaker 2: have been suspended before, has he?

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Speaker 1: No. I don't think he's ever been cited.

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Speaker 2: But he's in the best three players for Port Adelaide. Butters, Horn, Francis,

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Speaker 2: But I think we agree on that. What about the–

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Speaker 2: And Cain Corns didn't miss him. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: That's a great point. Our old coach Lee Matthews used

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Speaker 2: No, no, it was good. Wasted seasons for Essendon, Adelaide

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Speaker 3: There wasn't much difference between five or six guys there,

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Speaker 2: Well, Sam Wiedemann's not going to be there next year.

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Speaker 3: And created a good vibe around the locker room. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their wheels haven't fallen off. It's their training wheels

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's right.

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Speaker 3: The crow's been disappointing as well. Brisbane, the way he

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Speaker 1: That led to it, didn't it? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what? I think it did.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're not saying Faggs is going to start taking

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Speaker 2: They were three goals up with not long to play.

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Speaker 3: Beating Geelong at Geelong, which needs to happen. And Brisbane

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Speaker 2: Four, nigh on impossible. We saw the emergence and he'd

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Speaker 2: But the emergence of a superstar, and he put it

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Speaker 2: I've got one for you.

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Speaker 3: Here's one for you.

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Speaker 2: Seven goals. Same draft as Nick Dacos, 2021. So both father-sons.

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Speaker 3: Pick two for Darcy, pick four for Dacos. You have

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 2: gangling growing into his body. That's right. You still take Dacos.

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Speaker 2: Every day of the week, mate. It's a great point

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Speaker 3: He dragged them in, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because they were five goals down. Yeah. So in terms

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Speaker 2: Darcy bobs up against North. I get it, right? Coleman

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Speaker 2: See, I.

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Speaker 1: Darcy will have more impact on the games in which

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 1: If the ball's not coming in perfectly, Darcy's going to

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Speaker 2: Brilliant.

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Speaker 1: That man is lightning quick.

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Speaker 2: And he's already won Collingwood a premiership, which Darcy hasn't

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Speaker 2: watched a lot of St Kilda this year. Why can

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Speaker 2: When they want to keep the ball in motion and

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Speaker 2: And I think the fact that King got injured and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden they went, oh, my God, where

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Speaker 2: are we going to find our goals now? They're a

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Speaker 2: much more dangerous side now. Absolutely. It's made them more unpredictable.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good point you make because they've actually

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Speaker 3: been able to move the ball pretty well last year

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Speaker 3: and this year. They weren't able to execute going inside 50.

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Speaker 2: So maybe now it's made them more unpredictable. Cooper Charman? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good to see. He goes okay.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. Kamenei got injured, but the kid, Wilson's a star.

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Speaker 2: Star.

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Speaker 1: Can't say he's going to.

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Speaker 2: Be a good player. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So there's some good young players there. They've still got

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Speaker 3: to upgrade their midfield, no question about it. But it probably,

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Speaker 3: to me, magnifies the issues– for Geelong more more so

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Speaker 3: their midfield gets cleaned up with a very vanilla against

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Speaker 3: the very vanilla st kilda midfield let's be honest after

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Speaker 3: half time for the first time we've seen lamb stocker

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Speaker 3: go to Tom Stewart. Tom Stewart was tagged for the

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Speaker 3: first time in his midfield career, Tom Stewart. He started

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Speaker 3: getting tagged as a forward, and they took him out

457
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Speaker 3: of business, did the job. So that'll be interesting to

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Speaker 3: watch now. Teams coming up against you, I would have followed,

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Speaker 3: I think they will follow Ross Lyon's strategy against Tom Stewart.

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Speaker 2: We're around 23 now, right? So everyone starts talking about

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Speaker 2: the All-Australian side, okay? Now, right as we speak, with

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Speaker 2: one game to go, who's the All-Australian Ruckman? Because I've

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Speaker 2: got Tristan Cherry. I love him. Mate, it is one

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Speaker 2: of the most remarkable stories. He was not even getting

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Speaker 2: a game last year. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Behind old man Goldie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And yes, Maxi Gorn started the year off fantastically.

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Speaker 2: Brodie Grundy's first 12 weeks were brilliant. Since then, I

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Speaker 2: reckon it's Rowan Marshall. Marshall was awesome. Or Tristan Cherry.

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Speaker 3: I think Max Gorn's right up there. I think Oscar

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Speaker 3: McInerney was going well. He's just gone off a little

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Speaker 3: bit the last couple of weeks. Darcy Cameron's forced his

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Speaker 3: way back into contention. Forced his way into contention.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy to be an all-Australian ruckman.

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Speaker 1: There's only 18 of them getting around. It's just too easy.

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Speaker 2: Nothing's easy, buddy.

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Speaker 1: If you're a midfielder, there's 50 of you to pick from,

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Speaker 1: and you've got to be in the top five. And

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Speaker 1: no one cares about Ruckman as long as you tap

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Speaker 1: it down.

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on.

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Speaker 1: Honestly.

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Speaker 2: We don't endorse that rubbish comment that you just made

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Speaker 2: on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: I saw Big Shane Mumford, GWS had a bit of

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Speaker 3: them up there.

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Speaker 2: Sausage. Big sausage.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love sausage.

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Speaker 2: My Olivia was doing one-on-ones with him. Oh, I love sausage.

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Speaker 2: After the game, all the kids, all the GWS kids, family,

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Speaker 2: kids were floating around. I dropped in and said, g'day.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't line up.

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Speaker 1: How is the rig on sausage these days?

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Speaker 3: Mate, he's in magnificent condition.

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Speaker 1: Is he? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Righto, I've got a little surprise for us after the break.

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Speaker 2: All right, well.

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Speaker 1: We'll go into ads. We'll be back. This is a

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Speaker 1: big interview, and I'm looking forward to it. We're celebrating

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Speaker 1: just over 30 years of something astonishing. Welcome back. It's

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Speaker 1: Brownies Podcast. Jonathan Brown, Campbell Brown.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't hit the same, mate. I'm going to say.

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Speaker 2: I know Dino's not here, and it's his own fault,

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Speaker 2: but it doesn't hit the same.

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Speaker 1: I'll try it again. Ready?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's Brownies Podcast. It's Jonathan Brown, and it is the two-club,

508
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Speaker 1: one-time All-Australian, the premiership player, Campbell Brown. Yes.

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Speaker 2: A little bit better, but it just doesn't hit the same. Hey,

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Speaker 2: both best-selling authors. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not both.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what? One of us is a best-selling author.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you're introducing us. I've got a special guest on

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Speaker 3: the line. Coming up, because this weekend was the 30-year

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Speaker 3: anniversary of the Men for All Seasons calendar.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: From the inception of the Men for All Seasons calendar.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been in since 2007, but Brown Dog. Our

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Speaker 3: man here, Brown Dog, was one of the stars. One

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Speaker 3: of the centrefolds.

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Speaker 2: What month? 03, I reckon. It was July. July. Missed

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Speaker 2: the July. Yeah, holding the hay bale. Holding the hay bale.

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Speaker 3: Just real fun. Even though he grew up in Pembroke

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Speaker 3: and Gravey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Beside Alan Bond and Laurie Connell.

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Speaker 1: Who else was in the calendar?

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Speaker 2: Trent Crowe, I think, was on the front, and he

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Speaker 2: had a Gemini tattoo, which he then tattooed over with

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Speaker 2: the Kiwi fern, remember? I reckon Daniel Gian Siracusa.

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Speaker 1: Oh, good-looking man.

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Speaker 2: Steve Armstrong, remember him? Steve from West Coast Eagles.

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Speaker 1: What were you doing there?

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Speaker 2: Clint Showbiz Bizzle. Yeah, the biz man was in there.

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Speaker 1: With the blonde tips.

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Speaker 2: Kent Kingsley. Oh, Jesus. Kent Kingsley. Well, I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 2: bringing up those names, we're going to get the photographer.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Robbins. Matthew Robbins. We're going to get the photographer

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Speaker 2: on the phone.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: The man that's behind it all, Tony Ryan.

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Speaker 2: I remember Tony, he had to do some wonderful things

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Speaker 2: around my appendage. I had hay fever too back in

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: Tony.

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Speaker 2: Tony.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Brownies Podcast, Tone. It is Jonathan Brown, Campbell Brown,

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Speaker 1: and Brodie Bigfella.

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Speaker 2: How are you, Tony?

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Speaker 1: It's an honour.

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Speaker 4: Good, thanks, guys.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's fantastic. I read Fiona Byrne's article over the

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Speaker 3: weekend in the Herald Sun, Tone, and it was magnificent

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Speaker 3: just to go back through for a trip down memory lane,

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Speaker 3: because this is the 30-year anniversary of the Men for

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Speaker 3: All Seasons calendar, and you are the man that was

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Speaker 3: charted with making these old blokes look good.

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Speaker 2: We weren't old back then. I was 19 years of age.

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Speaker 2: I remember I was just a very shy young man

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Speaker 2: out of Scotch College, didn't really know my way around

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Speaker 2: a camera. You made me feel at home, but I

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Speaker 2: must admit that holding the hay bale for a city slicker,

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Speaker 2: it didn't sit well with me, but the photo came

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Speaker 2: up okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't remember that long ago, Campbell. I can't

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Speaker 4: remember why we chose the hay bale, but it does

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Speaker 4: look good. It looks great.

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Speaker 2: Did you ask him about his background?

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Speaker 3: Because the kid did grow up in Peppermint Grove beside

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Speaker 3: Alan Bond, Laurie Connell, Kerry Stokes.

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Speaker 2: So a long way from a farm.

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't have been able to draw a hay bale

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Speaker 3: if you asked him to.

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Speaker 4: Well, luckily we didn't go to a farm. It was

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Speaker 4: just local here in Northcote, so he wouldn't have felt

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Speaker 4: too bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where was he on the list? Because no doubt

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Speaker 3: you would have had a bit of a list. You know,

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Speaker 3: everyone has your definites you want to get in tone,

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Speaker 3: and obviously not everyone's going to say g'day. Obviously there

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Speaker 3: might have been some financial inducements.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it was free. Everyone did it for free.

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Speaker 2: Let's say there's 12 months. No, you didn't, Campbell.

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Speaker 3: LAUGHTER He definitely didn't know it for free. We know

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Speaker 3: there's 12 photos because 12 months of you, of course,

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Speaker 3: being in calendar.

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Speaker 4: There's actually 13, Brownie, because the first of the year

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Speaker 4: of release, you put four months, you put one photo

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Speaker 4: for the four months of the year of release and

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Speaker 4: then 12 for the next year, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So where was he in the list?

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Speaker 1: I've got the leading boat getters in the Bramlow Medal

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Speaker 1: of 2003. Let's have a look through and see how

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Speaker 1: many of them feature in the calendar, shall we? All right,

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Speaker 1: Nathan Buckley? No. No, I didn't see him there, obviously.

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Speaker 1: Adam Goodes?

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Speaker 2: No, Goodes wasn't part of the process.

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Speaker 1: Didn't see Rashudo? Didn't see him in there. No, we

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Speaker 1: couldn't fit him in. Gavin Wangeney? Didn't see, no. Good-looking guy, though.

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Speaker 1: Peter Bell. No, Peter Bell.

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Speaker 2: Too short for the camera.

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Speaker 1: Andrew McLeod. No, Andrew McLeod to mention of.

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Speaker 2: No, James Heard.

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Speaker 4: No, no, friends.

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Speaker 3: Bungie would have been sensational.

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Speaker 1: So none of them actually.

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Speaker 2: No, they weren't part of that because they were trying

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Speaker 2: to choose the best 13 or 14 looking blokes in

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Speaker 2: the AFL. So that is why I was chosen. So

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Speaker 2: where do you reckon he was in the order though, Tyrone?

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Speaker 2: Like was he 30th, 40th, 50th?

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Speaker 4: No, no, I think Brownie was very lean, as you

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Speaker 4: can see in his photo back in those days. Are

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Speaker 4: you still lean, Brownie?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't have the same physique, unfortunately. I'd like

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Speaker 2: to be photoshopped on my body back then.

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Speaker 4: I actually saw you with the wife and kids at

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Speaker 4: the light show a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I took the kids down there. It was magnificent,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it?

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Speaker 4: It was a good thing. I was going to come

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Speaker 4: up and have a chat. I didn't know if you'd

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Speaker 4: remember me, though.

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Speaker 2: Of course I would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You never forget something like that. Look, I sense a

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Speaker 2: little bit of jealousy here from John O'Brown. He obviously

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Speaker 2: has got all the accolades. He's got the Coleman medals,

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Speaker 2: the premierships. Where was the phone call time? The one

633
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Speaker 2: thing that's always frustrated him is he never did a

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Speaker 2: men for all seasons.

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Speaker 4: Well, were you around in those days, John?

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Speaker 3: I was doing some of my best work. Mind you,

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Speaker 3: I might have been busy in September. Maybe some of

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Speaker 3: those photos were in September.

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Speaker 4: We used Vossi in one of them.

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Speaker 2: Vossi. You got the old red. I was going to

641
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,260
Speaker 2: say I tossed up a few ideas to bring it back.

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Speaker 2: We could have a Red Heads. Yeah. Don't you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Lance Whitnall. Yes. Or Lance. Michael Voss. Yeah, the pink pig,

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Speaker 2: Cameron Ling. The pink pig. Yeah, Ling are involved. One

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Speaker 2: thing I've got to say, Tame, what do you think

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Speaker 2: of the current crop? I've gone through some of the

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Speaker 2: names of this. Bailey Smith, Harley Reid, Nick Dacos, Isaac Heaney.

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Speaker 2: Pat Lipinski. Archie Perkins, Pat Lipinski.

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Speaker 3: But I don't feel like there's the pin-up boys that

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Speaker 3: there was of yesteryear.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I reckon, because I do want to do a

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Speaker 4: new one and tie it in with the mental health

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Speaker 4: side of things. But I reckon that even back in

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Speaker 4: those days, the Kuta, when we used Kuta, no one

655
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:25,129
Speaker 4: knew who Kuta was even in the second.

656
00:28:25,369 --> 00:28:26,010
Speaker 2: Yeah.

657
00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 4: And I reckon we'd... Get today's guys and you'd find

658
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 4: we'd pick some guys out that others may not have

659
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: recognised and they'd become pretty big.

660
00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:39,470
Speaker 2: Now he's running for Lord Mayor. Kudos. So, you know,

661
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:40,610
Speaker 2: we've got him off the scrap heap.

662
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,090
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Kurt will like finishing footy. He

663
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:46,010
Speaker 4: needs things to keep him occupied.

664
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:50,570
Speaker 2: Well, let's get behind this process and get a men

665
00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: for all seasons back because I know that all the

666
00:28:53,390 --> 00:28:56,100
Speaker 2: ladies liked it. A lot of men liked it too

667
00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:58,100
Speaker 2: in this world that we live in. That's right. I

668
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: think the players would absolutely jump at the opportunity to

669
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 2: get their shirts off, get their rigs out and do

670
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: it for a good cause like mental health. I think so.

671
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,350
Speaker 4: There's a guy off the internet, Coach Cole or something.

672
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:11,170
Speaker 2: Yes, Coach Cole.

673
00:29:12,740 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: Well, he's keen to try and get something up.

674
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: We've got to mix it up, though, not just with glamours.

675
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,700
Speaker 3: We need a couple of rugged boys in there, like

676
00:29:21,820 --> 00:29:24,380
Speaker 3: Shane Mumford we've just spoken about. You need to get Mummy.

677
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Mitch McGovern.

678
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,740
Speaker 3: Mitch... Come on, give me a spell. I suppose we

679
00:29:28,770 --> 00:29:30,590
Speaker 3: need current players, don't we? So we need to find

680
00:29:30,610 --> 00:29:32,690
Speaker 3: a couple of... Sprinkle a couple of rugged boys through there.

681
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:35,110
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack Inovan, he'd be in there.

682
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: We had rugby in one of the years. We had

683
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,850
Speaker 4: Mark McGaw and Ian Roberts. So we put five rugby

684
00:29:43,890 --> 00:29:45,690
Speaker 4: players into one of the year's calendars.

685
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: Willy Rioli?

686
00:29:47,980 --> 00:29:50,630
Speaker 2: Willy Rioli, yes. I'll tell you what, we had the

687
00:29:50,670 --> 00:29:53,890
Speaker 2: launch night at Frostbites down there on Chapel Street. It

688
00:29:53,910 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: was split round about July 2003, and my word was

689
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,300
Speaker 2: it was a little bit of fun.

690
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:06,630
Speaker 4: LAUGHTER Did you like the other calendar models, did you, Bernie?

691
00:30:06,970 --> 00:30:11,580
Speaker 2: I had a very good night. Did you now? Tony.

692
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:12,700
Speaker 4: Care to elaborate?

693
00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:16,060
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to incriminate myself. He was doing

694
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,940
Speaker 2: his own calendar.

695
00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:22,860
Speaker 1: Tony, thank you very much for joining us, mate. Appreciate it.

696
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:24,250
Speaker 4: No worries, Brodie.

697
00:30:24,290 --> 00:30:28,260
Speaker 2: Thanks, Tony. Thanks, Tony. Oh, there you go, 21 years.

698
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: So I would have been 19 years of age, and

699
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,780
Speaker 2: I remember sitting down with Richie Vandenberg, who'd done it

700
00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:36,910
Speaker 2: the previous year, because as a young bloke, you don't

701
00:30:36,930 --> 00:30:38,930
Speaker 2: want to ruffle feathers, right? You don't want to think

702
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:41,410
Speaker 2: you're getting too far ahead of yourself. I certainly never

703
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:44,070
Speaker 2: looked at myself as a pin-up boy of the competition,

704
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:47,290
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. Abs of steel. No doubt about that.

705
00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:50,250
Speaker 2: But he gave me, he said, look, just back it

706
00:30:50,290 --> 00:30:51,710
Speaker 2: up on field with your performance.

707
00:30:53,490 --> 00:30:54,690
Speaker 3: The opposite of Josh Rosselli.

708
00:30:55,860 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I need to do the opposite of Josh Rosselli.

709
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: And did you back it up? Well, I think you did.

710
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:00,900
Speaker 2: I did.

711
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,460
Speaker 3: You can't be accused of that. Never.

712
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,020
Speaker 2: Because you just built throughout your career there at Hawthorne.

713
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,940
Speaker 2: It helped when you didn't need to get your hands

714
00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:10,540
Speaker 2: on the footy, you know. Just punch. How long did

715
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,020
Speaker 2: you do the photo shoot for? It took a couple

716
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,060
Speaker 2: of hours. Yeah, three or four hours. Boiled up? Absolutely.

717
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: So it must have been pre-Bunny. There's no oil around

718
00:31:18,660 --> 00:31:20,770
Speaker 2: when Bunny can't. If I had my time again, I'd

719
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:24,050
Speaker 2: only just started to get a hairy chest. But back

720
00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:26,930
Speaker 2: in those days, you didn't actually ever trim down. You

721
00:31:26,970 --> 00:31:30,150
Speaker 2: know now everyone trims, like I'm trimmed. Yeah, I left

722
00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:32,130
Speaker 2: a bit of hair on the chest too, which some

723
00:31:32,170 --> 00:31:33,740
Speaker 2: say is masculine.

724
00:31:33,780 --> 00:31:34,940
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.

725
00:31:35,020 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: Right now, with my current mindset, I would have trimmed

726
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: it down.

727
00:31:37,660 --> 00:31:40,500
Speaker 3: Who's your number one centrefold this year? So the Shane

728
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,030
Speaker 3: Crawford of yesteryear. So Crawford's always probably the greatest sexing.

729
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

730
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: He's the most recognisable. Who's numero uno this year in

731
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,580
Speaker 3: the current crop?

732
00:31:51,020 --> 00:31:55,700
Speaker 2: In terms of profile and looks and everything, I think

733
00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:58,940
Speaker 2: it's Jack Ginnivan. I think he's the guy that... Not

734
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: Nick Dacos? Beautiful-looking man. Yeah, so you put Ginnivan just

735
00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: because he's maybe got that edginess? He's got that edge.

736
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,150
Speaker 2: And women we already know flock to him because of

737
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,050
Speaker 2: his online presence. So he would be, if I was

738
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:17,540
Speaker 2: starting up... the Men for All Seasons 2025, he'd be

739
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: one of the guys I'd be chasing for the front cover.

740
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Bailey Smith. He's got abs on abs, doesn't he? He's

741
00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:26,940
Speaker 2: got an eight-pack. Not something I feel overly comfortable talking about.

742
00:32:26,980 --> 00:32:28,570
Speaker 2: I've got a smoky phone. Jack Steele.

743
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:32,190
Speaker 3: Jack Steele, he's a good-looking fella. He's got a good

744
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:33,970
Speaker 3: rig on him. He's the captain of a footy club.

745
00:32:34,350 --> 00:32:36,230
Speaker 3: Maybe not playing for the biggest footy club, though.

746
00:32:36,670 --> 00:32:39,430
Speaker 2: I don't know how many women listeners we have on

747
00:32:39,450 --> 00:32:43,030
Speaker 2: this podcast. I don't reckon we've got a great deal. Well,

748
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: this is growing.

749
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:44,180
Speaker 1: Yeah.

750
00:32:45,380 --> 00:32:48,620
Speaker 2: We need more of this conversation. Just grow it out

751
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: a little bit. I certainly feel uncomfortable discussing this, but

752
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: you know what? Be comfortable being uncomfortable. Sam Draper.

753
00:32:57,850 --> 00:32:58,910
Speaker 1: Max Gawne would be great.

754
00:32:59,250 --> 00:32:59,870
Speaker 2: Big Maxie?

755
00:32:59,910 --> 00:33:02,469
Speaker 1: Big Maxie. The rig's probably not where it needs to be.

756
00:33:02,610 --> 00:33:07,950
Speaker 2: I feel like Maxie married kids, unattainable, beyond reach for girls.

757
00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:11,630
Speaker 2: I feel now that he's married the sister of James

758
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: Frawley's wife. Does that make.

759
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: Sense to you? Thanks for that. I'm glad we stopped

760
00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: down for that.

761
00:33:18,220 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: So what does that make him to James Froehlich?

762
00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:21,460
Speaker 2: They're brothers-in-law.

763
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,910
Speaker 3: Brothers-in-law, yeah. Very good. I'm glad we worked that out.

764
00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:30,310
Speaker 3: We're just very good, looking forward to that. We'll come

765
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:33,550
Speaker 3: back after the break, bros, and we'll talk about, we'll

766
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:34,930
Speaker 3: wrap up the Logies last night.

767
00:33:36,570 --> 00:33:39,380
Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's Brownies Podcast with the great Jonathan Brown

768
00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: and Campbell.

769
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: I tell you what, how's he going out, man? Is

770
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: he going any good in and out of these outros? Ordinary.

771
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's good to just hear you speaking these days.

772
00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:52,780
Speaker 2: You know, you're not muted out of the conversation.

773
00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:54,850
Speaker 1: I can try my own microphone here, which is really good.

774
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,890
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is too.

775
00:33:56,090 --> 00:33:59,350
Speaker 2: What about last night? So, Logies' last night. Larry Emder,

776
00:33:59,730 --> 00:34:02,030
Speaker 2: did you pick that at all? 40 years in the industry.

777
00:34:02,030 --> 00:34:03,489
Speaker 2: 40 years there. Well-deserved.

778
00:34:03,770 --> 00:34:06,350
Speaker 3: One of the nicest guys in the industry. He's done everything.

779
00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:08,890
Speaker 2: Oh, has he what? Bros, did you pick that?

780
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:11,629
Speaker 1: Well, I had an inkling that that might be going

781
00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:13,219
Speaker 1: that way when I heard that a lot of the

782
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:16,340
Speaker 1: other stars weren't doing media. Yeah, I had a sneaking

783
00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:18,460
Speaker 1: suspicion that Larry might be the one who wins.

784
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 3: Broads might own a couple of bucks, honey.

785
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: Do you ever bet?

786
00:34:21,739 --> 00:34:25,630
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a good gambler and sometimes I gamble on

787
00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:26,370
Speaker 1: things that I care about.

788
00:34:26,390 --> 00:34:29,109
Speaker 2: You use your poetic license as a producer to work

789
00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:30,850
Speaker 2: out who you're going to speak to the day after.

790
00:34:30,870 --> 00:34:31,810
Speaker 1: That would be inside Australia.

791
00:34:31,830 --> 00:34:33,830
Speaker 3: Processes of elimination, Broads.

792
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:37,140
Speaker 2: He's gone through and said he's up for interviews the

793
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 2: next day. But, Larry, I love him. Actually, it takes

794
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,259
Speaker 2: me back to a couple of years ago, Brandon. I

795
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: remember I was doing that hit show, Best on Ground. Yeah,

796
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,259
Speaker 2: of course I do. It was a magnificent five or

797
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,550
Speaker 2: six shows.

798
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:51,129
Speaker 3: It lasted all year, but we got through it. But

799
00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:54,689
Speaker 3: once the comedian, who's a magnificent comedian, who's a warm-up man,

800
00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:55,450
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

801
00:34:55,950 --> 00:34:58,130
Speaker 2: I can't remember his name. Oh, here we go. I

802
00:34:58,210 --> 00:34:59,610
Speaker 2: can't help you out with it.

803
00:34:59,650 --> 00:35:00,180
Speaker 3: It's not Benny.

804
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,219
Speaker 2: Oh, jeez, I should have thought of this before. He'll

805
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: be wrapped if he listens to this. He's a ripping

806
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 2: bike and a funny man. Must be, yeah. It's a

807
00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:10,340
Speaker 2: warm-up man and a caper.

808
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: We're not moving on until you get his name.

809
00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:14,009
Speaker 2: Here we go. He's a memorable folk, isn't he? I'm

810
00:35:14,050 --> 00:35:17,189
Speaker 2: going to have to text Chrissie because Chrissie knows. Anyway,

811
00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:22,870
Speaker 2: he didn't turn up. Yeah, what was his name? Yeah. Hey,

812
00:35:23,050 --> 00:35:26,250
Speaker 2: he or they. In this current world, they.

813
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 3: They or them didn't turn up round. So they said

814
00:35:30,340 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: to me, big fella, can you go up and warm,

815
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,580
Speaker 3: go out the back and warm the crowd up in

816
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: the green room?

817
00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:36,140
Speaker 1: Do you want a clue as to who it is?

818
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:37,580
Speaker 1: I know who it is. Do you want a clue

819
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,180
Speaker 1: as to who it is?

820
00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: Ben.

821
00:35:40,260 --> 00:35:40,500
Speaker 1: Yep.

822
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: Ben.

823
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:46,529
Speaker 3: Ben.

824
00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: It's like Ronaldo. Yeah, only has the one name. Just Benjamin.

825
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,860
Speaker 2: Ben the warm-up guy.

826
00:35:55,460 --> 00:35:57,020
Speaker 3: He's more than that. He's a great comedian.

827
00:35:57,060 --> 00:36:00,180
Speaker 2: Full name, please, bros. You've got to give his full

828
00:36:00,219 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: name now. Because he's a comedian. People want to buy

829
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,140
Speaker 2: tickets to go and see him now.

830
00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:06,300
Speaker 1: Just type in Benny into the comedy festival.

831
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,850
Speaker 2: Letting you know. Quick.

832
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:11,149
Speaker 1: I can't remember, no.

833
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:13,700
Speaker 2: You can't remember. Anyway, so I go out the back.

834
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, shit, how am I going to warm them up?

835
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: So I thought I'll hit them right between the eyes.

836
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:20,740
Speaker 2: And there's a few older ladies there. And I thought

837
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,930
Speaker 2: I'm going to roll with a Larry Emner joke. Now,

838
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:25,049
Speaker 2: of course, remember back in the day, Larry Emner used

839
00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:26,830
Speaker 2: to host The Price is Right. He certainly did.

840
00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:29,750
Speaker 3: And they played a great game, more or less, where

841
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:31,830
Speaker 3: they give you a figure and.

842
00:36:33,310 --> 00:36:34,370
Speaker 2: And have a prize. Yep.

843
00:36:34,590 --> 00:36:37,450
Speaker 3: And the contestant just simply has to guess whether the

844
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:39,989
Speaker 3: real prize total is.

845
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:41,819
Speaker 2: Higher or lower. Yeah, it's like me doing the over

846
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,460
Speaker 2: and unders in the footy betting. Exactly right. So it's easy.

847
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:46,739
Speaker 3: But I've come straight in and gone, hi, guys, looking

848
00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:49,100
Speaker 3: forward to the show. Yeah, a little bit of a sad,

849
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: sad show, though, tonight, because Larry Emner's just passed away.

850
00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:54,739
Speaker 2: I know. And a few old ladies are there, and

851
00:36:54,860 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: you can see the shock in their eyes, and I go, yeah,

852
00:36:57,140 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: it's a real show. How old do you reckon he was? And.

853
00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:03,779
Speaker 3: Someone's yelled out 47. I said, higher.

854
00:37:03,860 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Higher.

855
00:37:06,130 --> 00:37:10,850
Speaker 3: Then someone said, 54. I said, wow. Well, mate, these

856
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:13,310
Speaker 3: three old girls in the front row, they're in tears.

857
00:37:13,810 --> 00:37:16,070
Speaker 2: Oh, my God, Larry Emner's passed away.

858
00:37:16,210 --> 00:37:17,969
Speaker 3: So then I'm about to backtrack and I'm about to

859
00:37:17,989 --> 00:37:19,630
Speaker 3: wheel it back to Jake and say, oh, no, no.

860
00:37:19,630 --> 00:37:22,170
Speaker 2: That was only a joke. Larry's still alive. He's alive

861
00:37:22,210 --> 00:37:24,190
Speaker 2: and well. And clearly he is because he won the

862
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:27,370
Speaker 2: gold lady last night. Great show. Between 93 and 98,

863
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:29,970
Speaker 2: that show was. And if I had to say a gag,

864
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: this is what I would go to. What's the biggest

865
00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:38,700
Speaker 2: city in America? Biggest city in America, New York.

866
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:39,299
Speaker 1: Hello.

867
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:45,860
Speaker 2: Obesity. Hey, he's nearly 60, right? He's been in the

868
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,260
Speaker 2: industry for 40 years and he's finally got gold. Finally.

869
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,060
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good effort of persistence. Failure cannot cope

870
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,060
Speaker 3: with perseverance, as Lethal used to say.

871
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Do you want to pay tribute to your favourite comedian

872
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,450
Speaker 1: who helped form up on Best On Ground? Benny.

873
00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:04,899
Speaker 2: Hill.

874
00:38:05,580 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: Benny, not Benny Hill.

875
00:38:06,860 --> 00:38:11,810
Speaker 2: Lomas. Benny Lomas. That's right. The famous Benny Lomas.

876
00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:13,890
Speaker 3: One of the great, he's a funny man, Benny Lomas.

877
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:15,649
Speaker 3: So if you get an opportunity to go and see

878
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:18,710
Speaker 3: him live in action, go and buy tickets to Benny Lomas.

879
00:38:19,830 --> 00:38:24,580
Speaker 2: That is one of the great backtracks I've ever done. Oh, jeez.

880
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: That's like Jack Viney's backtrack over the weekend.

881
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

882
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,420
Speaker 3: On Thursday, he was a one-club player. He was definitely

883
00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: playing for Melbourne by Saturday evening. We'll work it out

884
00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:34,700
Speaker 3: at the end of the footy season.

885
00:38:34,739 --> 00:38:36,450
Speaker 2: Do you know what I couldn't understand in terms of

886
00:38:36,469 --> 00:38:39,190
Speaker 2: the Gold Logie? There were two nominated from the same show.

887
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:43,750
Speaker 2: Bob Irwin slithered in there to get a Gold Logie nomination.

888
00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:46,819
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, how can that be the case? Do you

889
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,650
Speaker 2: know what I mean? There's two presenters. Surely it's a

890
00:38:49,770 --> 00:38:53,410
Speaker 2: joint effort. Well, it's a popularity contest. I know, but, like,

891
00:38:53,890 --> 00:38:55,710
Speaker 2: Bobby's never going to beat Julie Morris.

892
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but you can.

893
00:38:57,020 --> 00:39:00,700
Speaker 2: Have two actors from Home and Away or Neighbours or.

894
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: You can have two people win the brown line from

895
00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: the same team.

896
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: No other show was represented with two hosts. That's all right.

897
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:10,300
Speaker 2: What do you think there's biased towards? I just couldn't

898
00:39:10,340 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: understand it. I thought it was a waste.

899
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: Well, maybe it shows the marketing because they are allowed

900
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: to market the networks leading into it to vote for

901
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:19,589
Speaker 3: the Logie winners.

902
00:39:19,610 --> 00:39:22,969
Speaker 2: Seven gave a big push on all their platforms. Ten

903
00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:25,430
Speaker 2: might have focused. They've gone, right, let's focus this year

904
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:28,270
Speaker 2: on I'm a celebrity, get me out. Is that the one?

905
00:39:28,510 --> 00:39:28,750
Speaker 1: Yeah.

906
00:39:28,810 --> 00:39:29,969
Speaker 2: I'm a celebrity, get me out of here.

907
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: Because it'll bring a focus to the presenters and therefore

908
00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: help promote next year's series.

909
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,070
Speaker 2: I'm just glad that nothing against Tony Armstrong does a

910
00:39:38,110 --> 00:39:40,650
Speaker 2: fantastic job. He's got three shows. I'm just glad that

911
00:39:40,770 --> 00:39:42,870
Speaker 2: the ABC f * * * ing left wing flogs

912
00:39:42,930 --> 00:39:43,509
Speaker 2: didn't win anything.

913
00:39:43,570 --> 00:39:47,089
Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, so this happened to me on the weekend.

914
00:39:47,110 --> 00:39:48,609
Speaker 2: I'm glad you finally got that out. I was going

915
00:39:48,650 --> 00:39:50,450
Speaker 2: to say, where was the rant? Oh, no.

916
00:39:50,590 --> 00:39:51,390
Speaker 1: That was always going to be one.

917
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: We've gone 40 minutes. Christ almighty.

918
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,100
Speaker 3: We got it there.

919
00:39:54,140 --> 00:39:55,339
Speaker 2: We got there, didn't we, bro?

920
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: Oh, mate.

921
00:39:58,550 --> 00:40:00,130
Speaker 1: Just before we go, I just want to talk to

922
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,049
Speaker 1: you two about it. Obviously, this podcast is very well

923
00:40:03,090 --> 00:40:06,630
Speaker 1: known in all circles, right? As we said, very big

924
00:40:06,650 --> 00:40:08,950
Speaker 1: with women, very big with women, with men and the

925
00:40:09,010 --> 00:40:09,390
Speaker 1: AFL community.

926
00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:11,029
Speaker 2: Well, I'd be bigger with women after the men for

927
00:40:11,050 --> 00:40:12,330
Speaker 2: all seasons, Chad. Correct.

928
00:40:12,989 --> 00:40:15,469
Speaker 1: I go to the sauna here in Melbourne and I

929
00:40:15,489 --> 00:40:18,930
Speaker 1: go regularly, right? And there's always this- Turkey sauna? Yeah,

930
00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:20,790
Speaker 1: it's at a pool, but yeah, there's lots of Russian

931
00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:22,410
Speaker 1: dudes with the hats, the furry hats and whatnot.

932
00:40:22,570 --> 00:40:24,740
Speaker 2: They wear pants? They got undies on?

933
00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:27,669
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's on. Yeah, yeah. And I always wear

934
00:40:27,690 --> 00:40:32,049
Speaker 1: my Port Adelaide Speedos, always, which are astonishing. And they're

935
00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: starting to wear a little bit just around the old fella,

936
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: which is good. Anyway, there's this big Russian dude. I

937
00:40:37,620 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: always see him, and he's one of the ones that

938
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,700
Speaker 1: has a sleeve from the neck down to the ankle. Oh, jeez.

939
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,180
Speaker 1: Almost like a– similar to like a Yakuza tat, I guess.

940
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brad Vart.

941
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

942
00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:47,060
Speaker 2: His whole body. Whole body.

943
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,060
Speaker 1: There is absolutely no gaps. There's no like, you know,

944
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: one here, one there. It is continuous.

945
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:51,100
Speaker 3: Yeah.

946
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:53,010
Speaker 1: And we've never spoken. I've seen him there for, I reckon,

947
00:40:53,010 --> 00:40:54,890
Speaker 1: 12 months. And he always looks at me. He always

948
00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:57,049
Speaker 1: wears his big gold rings and stuff. So he looks

949
00:40:57,070 --> 00:40:59,170
Speaker 1: like a bad dude. Anyway, I always see him.

950
00:40:59,190 --> 00:41:00,190
Speaker 3: A bit of Mel Brown about him.

951
00:41:00,410 --> 00:41:01,870
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you just walk in and just turn your

952
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:03,170
Speaker 1: eyes to the left and you just sit down.

953
00:41:03,310 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: Very intimidating. Never f * * * with the OCG.

954
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: Nah.

955
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,020
Speaker 2: That's what I say, man. So.

956
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,100
Speaker 1: This time happened that I'd done my 20 minutes in there.

957
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: Great.

958
00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:12,219
Speaker 1: I was jumping out and he happened to jump out

959
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: at the same time. And as we were walking to

960
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,609
Speaker 1: the door, we almost kind of like ran into each other.

961
00:41:16,650 --> 00:41:17,790
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh no, I've run into the

962
00:41:17,810 --> 00:41:20,630
Speaker 1: big Russian guy. And he looks at me.

963
00:41:20,850 --> 00:41:21,490
Speaker 2: Standing ground.

964
00:41:21,950 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: Looks me up and down. I'm like, oh my God,

965
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: what's he going to do?

966
00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: Standing ground.

967
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Guess what he did?

968
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,660
Speaker 2: Shoved you out of the way.

969
00:41:28,610 --> 00:41:29,390
Speaker 1: WTB, baby.

970
00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 2: No.

971
00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: I swear to God.

972
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,140
Speaker 2: Did he really? I swear. He's at Brandon's podcast. I swear.

973
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: I swear.

974
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,420
Speaker 1: In like a somewhat of a Russian accent, WTB, baby.

975
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,660
Speaker 2: No, he did not. I swear.

976
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:40,730
Speaker 1: I swear he walked out.

977
00:41:40,739 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 2: I was like. Were you shook?

978
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: And I looked around and no one else knows what

979
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: that means in the sauna. So I looked around and

980
00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:45,100
Speaker 1: they were like.

981
00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:46,060
Speaker 2: I'm like.

982
00:41:46,510 --> 00:41:47,930
Speaker 1: This is absolutely wild.

983
00:41:48,010 --> 00:41:50,350
Speaker 2: How good is that? He'll listen to this, obviously, and

984
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:53,150
Speaker 2: love it. That's magnificent. It's like our little secret code.

985
00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:54,489
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Absolutely.

986
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:56,009
Speaker 1: A saying that you made famous.

987
00:41:56,260 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: What did you say? We're big with men. We're big

988
00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:02,300
Speaker 3: with the females now. Also now big with Russian oligarchs.

989
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:02,500
Speaker 1: Yeah.

990
00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: We're picked with Putin. Oh, that's good, Brad. I'm glad

991
00:42:10,540 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: for you, mate.

992
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:13,500
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for this. Dino will be back Thursday.

993
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: Don't you dare cut me off without saying time for.

994
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:17,780
Speaker 1: Time for.

995
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,930
Speaker 2: What a world. Now, this is a fantastic one. This

996
00:42:20,989 --> 00:42:27,250
Speaker 2: is about frugalism at its absolute best. A Japanese man retired...

997
00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:31,790
Speaker 2: at 45 years young. So I'm 41 this year. JB's 43.

998
00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:35,509
Speaker 2: I'm 43, yeah. I am in October. So if we

999
00:42:35,550 --> 00:42:38,189
Speaker 2: do this, we might be able to retire as well.

1000
00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:42,270
Speaker 2: He only ate rice and vegetables for 21 years straight, right?

1001
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:42,989
Speaker 3: He.

1002
00:42:44,489 --> 00:42:49,540
Speaker 2: Spent two decades living on a minimalistic lifestyle. His journey

1003
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: began in the early 2000s with a determined goal to

1004
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,140
Speaker 2: save 100 million yen, which is approximately 640,000 US dollars,

1005
00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: and break free from the grind of corporate life. To

1006
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:12,490
Speaker 2: achieve this, he drastically cut back on expenses. Primarily subsiding. Subsidising? No. Subsisting. Anyway,

1007
00:43:12,530 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: we'll cut that. For 21 years, all he ate was

1008
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,259
Speaker 2: rice and vegetables. His frugality extended to extreme measures, such

1009
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,670
Speaker 2: as using summer heat to cook sweet potatoes on a

1010
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:31,290
Speaker 2: colleague's car windshield and living with our basic comforts like

1011
00:43:31,310 --> 00:43:35,049
Speaker 2: air conditioner and heating. By early this year, he had

1012
00:43:35,110 --> 00:43:38,140
Speaker 2: successfully saved 135 million yen, around 860,000 US, surpassing his

1013
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:47,020
Speaker 2: initial goal, right? But this is the kicker because he's

1014
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: lived 21 years of life of absolute rot. Like he's

1015
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:55,090
Speaker 2: never had fun. He's been hungry, right? The recent depreciation

1016
00:43:55,110 --> 00:43:59,810
Speaker 2: of the yen has significantly reduced the value of his savings,

1017
00:44:00,230 --> 00:44:04,610
Speaker 2: leading him to question whether the sacrifices were worth it. Whoa.

1018
00:44:04,969 --> 00:44:07,529
Speaker 2: So what a world, mate. Go out and live your life. Oh,

1019
00:44:07,890 --> 00:44:09,190
Speaker 2: how good.

1020
00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:10,330
Speaker 1: Static. Righto.

1021
00:44:10,370 --> 00:44:11,859
Speaker 2: Well done. Good one. Well done, Brown Dog.

1022
00:44:12,050 --> 00:44:13,109
Speaker 1: See you later this week.

1023
00:44:13,180 --> 00:44:13,940
Speaker 3: See you later this week.